Jakarta

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;3028245]LOL- been going to Jakarta for 25 years, and if you claimed it's been ruined in that time (demise of Blok M, TC, Stadium, Alexis, etc) I'the at least say you have a point. Last two years? Nah, maybe a little price inflation, but that's about it.[/QUOTE]Having also experienced Jakarta for the same timeframe, Jakarta has been quite resilient despite the demise of these major venues taking out 50-60% of the mongering capacity. That doesn't even count the impact of demolishing low-end venues like Kalijodo and Royal. After 25 years, I am still paying the same all-in cost for the same (or better) quality provider with the same (or better) service. For me, this means a baseline of 100% BBBJ and BBFSCIP (no talk of "virtually guaranteed", it's [U]guaranteed[/U] without a single word of negotiation) with a cute 18-21 yo slim provider with no baby. To be fair, I don't want to portray some Instagram situation like I am immune from the occasional zonk experience, but some of the recent experiences posted here even by veterans are beyond the pale.

[QUOTE]As for the rest of Indonesia, I've been to Bintan / Batam, Yogyakarta, Surabaya in the Dolly days, Medan, Lombok, and Bali many times since 1985. There's basically no place like Jakarta for price / performance and variety anywhere else in Asia (now that China is dead). [/QUOTE]I have no doubt that there are members who have a bead on these hush hush off-the-beaten-path venues which offer the cheapest price per pop talent. That being said, when I dig into the details there always seem to be trade-offs. Examples. Is there an international airport nearby with convenient access? Is the available accommodation nearby reasonably comfortable? Am I required to do the deed in a muggy fan-cooled brothel fuck box where mosquitoes feast on my sweating balls? Are there ample providers to match my criterion as above, or is there a mix of older MILFs with zipper scars? I can go on.

I have a close mongering mate who loves this kind of quest. And to be fair he finds some places that really hit the mark for quality at giveaway price. Most recently he invited me to join him to experience the brothels on the outskirts of Vang Vieng, Laos (FYI, which are now bulldozed out of existence for a highway). When he showed me the pics of the girls and told me what he was paying, I was all in. But then I discovered it takes a day to get there. You need to rent a scooter to get from the the hotel areas to the brothels. Then the deed gets done in a grotty fuck box with only a foam mattress on the floor, a fan for aircon and no attached shower or toilet. Again, I could go on, but once I calculated what was really the bottom line, it was an easy pass.

[QUOTE]Maybe try going somewhere else than Classic? There's a lot of options for f you just RTFF. [/QUOTE]RTFF is not exactly in the skill set or temperament of many, especially the newbies who just rock up expecting to be spoon fed. So Classic it is until the day Classic isn't. Enjoy, AR.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3028344]Not true: I am the ugly fat one.[/QUOTE]So it's a walk of shame for the girl.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028484]That sounds great. Poked google maps a bit on KTV and found many. But really can't tell which would be best. Like the Masterpiece ones get good ratings but they says "Family Karaoke" right in their logo. Is that a thing? Or just a front.

Anyone have any KTV they recommend or to stay away from?[/QUOTE]Seems def light on KTV intel here. May have to TOFTT. South Jakarta seems to have KTV clusters. Looks like Roppongi Papa and Triple 999 are the bigger players there. Pretty professional insta and WhatsApp. Anyone know anything or is it TOFTT time? I will def report out what I find.

[QUOTE=Pk099;3028454]Not sure about Karaoke with pretty half naked girls, but places like Emporium or 1001 has KTV rooms where you can take girls and they can be full-naked inside with you. These are just high-end places as compare to most other places in Jakarta, so will be expensive. But it is still pennies compared to western world.

Emporium is my favorite, as I like their girls more and I have better success rate with girls there giving me their contact numbers and willing to join me outside for Karaoke bars and pool table games.

In my last trip, I did 2 karaoke nights with Empo girls, (3-some). Spend couple of hours in KTV, then dinner and then hotel room for the night.[/QUOTE]Now Naked Karaoke does sound interesting. If anyone knows of good places for this I would be up for it. Maybe a BJ while I'm singing. I'm sure it would work in Emporium but the fees can be a bit high if I want to spend some time in KTV before the room.

[QUOTE=BlackPantherXX;3028483]Those girls in Kotah indah bars, would they be up to follow you at your airbnb? For those not into out-of-home quickies lie in classic?[/QUOTE]Emporium, 1001, Travel, Classic, Kota Indah bars, etc are set up as all-inclusive operations with the general expectation that services will be provided on-site. The girls are not freelancers. I have seen reports that girls can be brought out of some establishments by purchasing multiple tickets, which just means that you pay for multiple sessions for the privilege of takeout. My intuition is that many girls would prefer on-site for the safety and straightforwardness of the transaction, but you can explore.

Unfortunately the reliable and inexpensive freelance joints (eg TC in the North and Blok M bars in the South) are long gone. If you want girls back at your crib, there are mixed reports of using MiChat app or Lokasari girls. Seems to be either heaven or hell depending on the report. Read back and you will see the experiences. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

I'm looking for freelancers, or websites.

In Thailand we have sites like [URL]https://fan4you.nl/[/URL] or fiw fans or smocci, or you could go around the area near thermae and pick up freelancers.

Any advice for that in Jakarta? It's my first time there, if possible PM me or respond here.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028445]I am a RTFF guy and contribute a lot in Seeking Arrangement, So Paulo, and FKK threads. I am up on most things in Jakarta by reading along. Classic. Emporium. Etc. But I am not sure about the Karaoke scene there. Maybe it's not written about much because it sucks?

I'm willing to explore a bit and TOFTT if need be. I love me some Karaoke / KTV with pretty half naked girls. Anyone care to give me the scoop on that scene?[/QUOTE]Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report!

I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.

I tipped the girl, apologized and left the room to talk to the receptionist. The receptionist was being a complete ***** and refused to give me straight answers (we were using Google Translate). I explained that I've been coming here for 4 months, and normally the phone rings after 45 minutes and we are supposed to get almost 1 hour. After 5 minutes of this of back and forth, another English speaking punter leaving the area commented to me that he got a knock on the door much earlier than expected as well. After a few more minutes, I realized that nothing will be done here, so I went upstairs and found the mami. I explained to her the situation. She was as wishy-washy as the receptionist. When I pushed her, and asked to speak to the manager, she took me to the billiard tables and asked me to wait near there, and she disappeared. After a few minutes, I realized that she's just bullshitting me, and I walk to the cashiers desk where you settle the bill. (This is why I never tip the mamis. When you need some sort of problem fixing, they don't give a shit.) A Google Translate convo with the cashier resulted in her saying that the manager is on holiday. So, I asked who's in charge, and she fobbed me off to the guy who stands at the exit door, making sure that no one leaves with their wrist band on. I once again explained the situation. He was polite and took me to a civilian looking buy sitting on one of the round tables. This guy had normal clothes on, no name badge, no indication that he was a customer or a manager. He spoke basic English and said that since yesterday (Saturday), the timings have been reduced. You now get 45 minutes in the room, and the phone is rung after 30 minutes.

I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.

So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?

[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3028986]I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.

I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.

So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?[/QUOTE]Yes I was there today around 5 pm I was surprised to see every room downstairs had a red light on so they need to free the rooms up for the next customer. They probably do this when it gets busy. Before the weekend I was finished in 40 mins there was no phone ringing. I don't need an hour There's nothing else to do after you shoot your load.

I visited several karaoke places in Jakarta. They look like a regular nightclub where you can have a drink and then you meet a manager, often a pretty lady who takes you into a separate section. Behind a closed door. There you get to see the girls in different price ranges. They come in groups and introduce themselves. They were exceptionally pretty and sexy girls. In all price ranges they were real model material. But the price was sky high. I thought I was being scammed, but it is really expensive for most people. When you get to know a girl, you can take the girl you like to your hotel next time. The minimum time was 3 hours. This is more than I need. But usually you have to do the action in the room you choose. Also no short time option. I would ike to have direct contact with the girls I saw presented. They probably get paid little compared to the management.

Sacrificing a little money to try out the ones you like can be worthwhile.

I saw few guests and there are probably many nights even the nice girls don't make money. They could do better with direct deals with people like us.

There are many karaoke bars. Let's go more in depth guys. I'm going back in January and want to do better studies.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;3028959]Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report![/QUOTE]

I tried asking earlier but no response. Is there really not a single strip club in Jakarta?

I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.

If one more person confirms then they changing rules.

Maybe next time prices will go up soon?

[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3028986]I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.

I tipped the girl, apologized and left the room to talk to the receptionist. The receptionist was being a complete ***** and refused to give me straight answers (we were using Google Translate). I explained that I've been coming here for 4 months, and normally the phone rings after 45 minutes and we are supposed to get almost 1 hour. After 5 minutes of this of back and forth, another English speaking punter leaving the area commented to me that he got a knock on the door much earlier than expected as well. After a few more minutes, I realized that nothing will be done here, so I went upstairs and found the mami. I explained to her the situation. She was as wishy-washy as the receptionist. When I pushed her, and asked to speak to the manager, she took me to the billiard tables and asked me to wait near there, and she disappeared. After a few minutes, I realized that she's just bullshitting me, and I walk to the cashiers desk where you settle the bill. (This is why I never tip the mamis. When you need some sort of problem fixing, they don't give a shit.) A Google Translate convo with the cashier resulted in her saying that the manager is on holiday. So, I asked who's in charge, and she fobbed me off to the guy who stands at the exit door, making sure that no one leaves with their wrist band on. I once again explained the situation. He was polite and took me to a civilian looking buy sitting on one of the round tables. This guy had normal clothes on, no name badge, no indication that he was a customer or a manager. He spoke basic English and said that since yesterday (Saturday), the timings have been reduced. You now get 45 minutes in the room, and the phone is rung after 30 minutes.

I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.

So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?[/QUOTE]

Most KTV girls price much higher.

If you look KTV Google reviews.

Only male reviews then its plus service.

If you see female reviews about songs etc then its family KTV only songs??

You will see these in big malls, so no plus service?

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;3028959]Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3029069]I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.

If one more person confirms then they changing rules.

Maybe next time prices will go up soon?[/QUOTE]1 year ago I had 2 girls and the phone rang not even 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3028518]Lokasari: echoes a previous posters experience. Wonky eyed papasan points to 6 girls. Who weren't that great. Picked one papasan says 500 including room I say no I turn around he says ok 400 including everything. Paid the 110 k for hotel he demands another 100 k from me. Get to room the girls attitude changed for the worse. 2 sec blow job and complained the whole time. I will never repeat.

Bongkaran tanah Abang: saw this area on YouTube it's an underpass next to a station walked along checked out each lady but they are too old all old aunties..[/QUOTE]You actually overpaid by paying 400 and you got shit service anyway.

I told many times Lokasari is useless but people don't listen.

As for Classic if the girl asks for BJ with condom she s out right away. No negotiation here. And 200 k for tip is way too much.

People complain but they are responsible for their own mistakes.

And now less time allowed in the room. Wonderful.