Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;1980858] girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. [/QUOTE]This is incorrect. Just ask the girl. I make the assumption EVERY girl in any bar can be BF. I know one ISG member who got shot down by a coyote. It took me 2 months to get my gogo waitress I wanted but I managed to do so. Felt good too since I truly knew she does not BF much, if at all (she told me I was the first ever).

Lefeu, I believe he is discussing a girl not wanting him because she doesn't ask to be BF rather than the girl's price.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1980351]LOL. Whatever you do won't stop her from hoarin. She has to get paid. Sure she might not want to take pictures, but she will still be fucking for money. People do act like this website is top secret and not accessible by anyone who has the internet.[/QUOTE]I firmly believe you just like to take the opposite view of me every time LOL. Anyways, Mr. Enternational, you are very famous on the China threads as I can remember so you should understand that the providers in China all read the site, there is even a dedicated thread for them to advertise for free. Have you ever noticed the difference in the posts in that thread compared to the Thailand thread. Very few photos! I think we all know people can find this site, but why we need to help them is beyond me.

[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;1980858]Hey guys,

Wondering if you have ever decided to barfine a girl that never raised the issue, and how that went.

There is this one bar that I go to a lot on my trips, and have been going for a few years. I enjoy the ambiance there and sit for hours just relaxing and buying drinks for my lady companion. The thing is, I have never barfined any girl from this bar, so perhaps I have a reputation as someone that doesn't like to barfine.

But on a recent trip, a girl I have known working there for as long as I started going there, suddenly decides she wants to drink with me for some reason (after some flirty smiling between us). So I sat with her for hours just enjoying the company.

Usually, girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. But at the same time, maybe I could ask her if she wants to? Worst she could say is no right?[/QUOTE]You seem like a generous guy so that is probably why she wanted to drink with you. The ladies all talk about the good customers. Secondly, I often bar fine ladies who never bring up the subject. Only 50% of the time the rate is discussed. I think Syggs can attest to that since I know this is his experience more often than not. If the ladies are worried you are stingy, that's when prices are discussed.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1980893]When I read your report, I could not help but wonder what is wrong with this picture. I, and I am sure many other mongers, have taken girls to my hotel room without ever discussing their rate. In the morning, I handed them what I thought was a reasonable donation and they were generally happy (I tend to be generous anyhow).

I am surprised you did not ask her, if you found her attractive, unless you were not planning to take a girl that night. I did that in my last trip to Pattaya. I was in a gogo bar and I liked one of the dancers. After inviting her for a drink, she quoted me a rather high number for ST. After seeing my reaction, she quickly changed it to LT. I still decided not to take her, as I had done a session earlier that day and the mood was gone after hearing her offer. Nevertheless, I liked her enough to go back the next day and her LT offer was still the same. I took her on and had a great time with her.[/QUOTE]I have seen her in the bar for several years, but she never approached me before. For some reason this time when our eyes met she kept smiling and then asked for a drink, and I was surprised since I never interacted with her before.

I did eventually feel like barfining her, but chickened out asking her. I don't know why. I have seen her go with other customers in previous visits, so I know she does barfine. I guess I am a bit of a chicken if she says no, I'll feel a little embarrassed and disappointed. I was thinking if she wanted to go with me, she would have raised the issue herself.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1980900]This is incorrect. Just ask the girl. I make the assumption EVERY girl in any bar can be BF. I know one ISG member who got shot down by a coyote. It took me 2 months to get my gogo waitress I wanted but I managed to do so. Felt good too since I truly knew she does not BF much, if at all (she told me I was the first ever).

Lefeu, I believe he is discussing a girl not wanting him because she doesn't ask to be BF rather than the girl's price.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct Banana Boi.

Maybe I am thinking too much, but I kept thinking if she wanted to go with me, she would have mentioned it but she never did and I eventually left the bar when I got too tired and sleepy.

I know for a fact she does go with customers as I seen her in previous visits go with guys.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1980905]You seem like a generous guy so that is probably why she wanted to drink with you. The ladies all talk about the good customers. Secondly, I often bar fine ladies who never bring up the subject. Only 50% of the time the rate is discussed. I think Syggs can attest to that since I know this is his experience more often than not. If the ladies are worried you are stingy, that's when prices are discussed.[/QUOTE]That is probably true.

I just found it interesting that after all these years, she'd want to drink with me after not approaching me before.

I may have to go out on a limb and just go for it. The worst is she says no, but it feels so awkward as I had that happen before in a gogo.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1980939]I'm referring to PMs, Natty Bumpo, yourself, and others making demands and threatening to get my account suspended. And yes, all internet tough guys, because none of you would say this in person to me. I'm not an internet tough guy, don't have to be.

I've thought about the consequences of my actions, and I see no problems with it. It's an open and free website, not nuclear launch codes mates. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]I have stayed out of this so far. I do not have the same issues with sharing the info that some members do. I do have my conclusions about Thai culture and no way do I think the service will improve when they understand the rewards after having read our posts. They are who they are and efforts to change them are not likely to succeed whether it is P4 P or any other venue.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1980902]I firmly believe you just like to take the opposite view of me every time LOL. Anyways, Mr. Enternational, you are very famous on the China threads as I can remember so you should understand that the providers in China all read the site,[/QUOTE]Wrong person. I don't know a gd thing about China. I have been to Hong Kong once and mongered on Temple Street and hit the 141 I think it was. That is the extent of my China experience.

To me ISG is like Yelp. Who the heck cares if the restaurant owners are reading the reviews? You should hope they read it so they can get their shit together or keep up the good work if that is what people are saying about them.

The girls know they are hookers. They go work in bars and gogos and stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers where all the public can see. I assume that the China providers have no problem with ISG seeing as you say they even have their own thread.

Don't shoot TK. Petition Jackson to make a super secret passcode and to make everyone who signs up pinky swear that they will not show the content to anyone. I think ISG was even on CNN when David in Peru got busted. It has definitely been mentioned and screenshotted on the Peruvian and Dominican news outlets. The website or mongering in general has not even hiccupped from such publicity as far as I can tell. Certainly showing it to 1 hooker is not going to curtail anything.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1980902] the providers in China all read the site, there is even a dedicated thread for them to advertise for free.[/QUOTE]I think "all"is an over estimation, by the level of English knowledge most PRC providers have in their homeland.

On the other hand I recall each room at famous Annie's Massage in bkk had a sign asking customers to give reports on ISG and WSG (most likely confident the reporter were positive). Again, due to the limited English skills of some providers I doubt the majority could then follow up the relevant thread with proper underestanding. Maybe some did, maybe some shared the info with their fishbowl mates (or maybe not!) and surely the majority didn't care. We pass in and go and since we pay, they can csre the less on the rest.

[QUOTE=DuckMan2;1980841] Found nice 23 year old nice natural tits. $1600 baht bar fine WTF. She wanted 5000 LT. I got her 4000 (Let the ass chewing begin). She had a tight body no kids that I could tell. Coved blow job and tight as hell. Was a good time it but would not repeat Happy New Years.[/QUOTE]What's up with the CBJ? You payed a premium rate, and I'm shocked that BBBJ wasn't included. Was this choice yours or hers?

Are any of you guys running into cbjs's more and more in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1981044]The threat of my account should be permanently suspended was from Natty Bumpo.

I don't give a shit about defamation suits in thailand, why? Because the girls can never pin it on us (we're all fucking anonymous, so stop it with this nonsense), nor will they take a hooker's words seriously against a farang because the girls are doing an illegal act themselves.

Natty Bumpo, cute. You have to treat hookers nice in order for them to be nice to you. Life must suck.[/QUOTE]Really? Anonymous. When you describe a situation and the lady realizes who the punter is, that's all she needs to make a complaint. When there's a photo involved, it's much easier for her to prove, especially when the lady has similar photos of the room with her in it on her phone. You would be surprised at the photos the ladies will take in your restroom or hotel when you are taking a shower or sleeping or whatever. In the past, I have seen photos of girls in my condo or hotel on their Facebook. I had no idea they had taken those photos. Hot Shane posts many photos in the Thailand thread. What if one of the girls you revealed ISG to sees her photo. She knows who took it, where he lives and so on. Off to the police station for the complaint. Stop your ignorance man.

And by the way, prostitution is not a crime in Thailand. Only to benefit from the work of prostitution or minors in the act of prostitution is a crime. You have no idea mate. I would also be happy to post that law for you here if you wish. In that case, you are just a John and why should the so called hooker give a rats ass about you?

And what about treating hookers as you say right? Your argument would be to show ISG to the hookers so they will perform better? How about treating them with a little respect? You'd be surprised at the mileage you can get. You've got a lot to learn mate.

Finally, you should check the meaning of (should) because this word is used to communicate suggestions not threats.

Hit a few gogo bars on Walking Street and LK tonight. Let's put it this way. It's midnight and I'm home. Girl's all too drunk from last night to work and tons of guys. A complete sausage fest at some clubs. I knew I should have stayed home when I was trying to round up a girl for a dinner date and they all replied too drunk.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1981044]
Natty Bumpo, cute. You have to treat hookers nice in order for them to be nice to you. Life must suck.[/QUOTE]Wrong again. I wrote, "Sessions always go a lot better when the girl is having a good time," which is something you would most likey agree with if you were not being so defensive and pig headed. Look, just think about not showing girls the ISG and we can all move on.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1981050]Wrong again. I wrote, "Sessions always go a lot better when the girl is having a good time," which is something you would most likey agree with if you were not being so defensive and pig headed. Look, just think about not showing girls the ISG and we can all move on.[/QUOTE]Natty, I think we should stop wasting our time with this guy after my last post. Knowing we have a punter like this in our midst, I'm not going to post anymore detailed reports or photos. I see a lot of girls who have large circles of friends, it could end in disaster for me.

Guys, this is pointless. Of course ThomKatt is going to continue to be a jerk, and attempt to ingratiate himself with the girls by showing them ISG. And if Jackson suspends him, the fact is there will continue to be other punters amongst us who will show this venue to the girls, and who simply are just very slightly smarter so as to avoid bragging about it here. So we all need to protect our own interests with the knowledge that even if a particularly obtuse poster of the handle ThomKatt ceases to circulate amongst us, others who are just a tiny bit less obtuse will continue to represent the same danger, and the internet is a vast public resource so there is really no avoiding that reality. The simple fact is, one needs to modulate between the parallel tensions of passing along information, and protecting one's own separation from being able to be linked too clearly to the most incriminating of that information in the event that it makes it's way to specific girls who might be damaged by it.