Markets move in both ways! A true investor / trader knows this.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074338]The USA markets are very strong right now. Gains in the last 18 months have been amazing and will continue once.The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years. It has been a huge win for the market and Americans with 401 retirement in last 18 months.[/QUOTE][B]A statement like this scares me![/B] The belief that markets only move in one direction. Blinded by political bias because his man or political party is in office. No one has made a factual argument that governments can control the movement of markets.
[B]Are you even old enough to ever have ridden out a bear market in anything?[/B]
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That wouldn't make any sense, now would it?
[QUOTE=Canada;3074356]Alzheimer's?[/QUOTE]See, someone like me who posts on-point links and full, factual substantiation for his assertions, sometimes with accompanying charts, graphs and tables, which he then elaborate on to further substantiate his point does not in any way exhibit symptoms of Alzheimer's disease, dementia or cognitive incapacity.
However, people who repeatedly blather on with totally unsubstantiated nonsense and lies, typically so lacking in a link, an accompanying chart, graph or anything else to support their blithering blather that one could logically conclude at this late date they still have no idea how to cite, link, quote or post one on this American Politics forum, like you, Elvis, Tiny and coming on strong from behind, AH, do indeed exhibit serious cognitive incapacity.
There is a similar dynamic among presidents. A president. Who can clearly talk, walk, knows who he is, where he is and what he is doing as well as do what every president of the past several decades, hosts and MCs of public presentations must do; compose, read and understand every word, syllable, sentence, nuance, text and subtext of a speech as it rolls across a two-screen teleprompter, appearing casual and natural, conveying the meaning of every nuance and point of the text, as Joe Biden can do this very day, is miles and miles away from exhibiting signs of those mental disorders.
By stark contrast, a president who can't compose and read a speech on even a single screen teleprompter without mangling word after word, clearly having no idea what he is reading or what it means and instead has to resort to blathering on repeatedly and incoherently about lies that have been debunked dozens of times about the 2020 election being stolen from him, that Joe Biden doesn't know what he's doing or any new mentally deranged comment about "president Putin" sitting right next to him when it is actually president Zelenskyy or "the Islamic Republic of Japan" at a goddam NATO Conference, that gas prices have fallen since he took over, that the USA Stock Market has performed better in the past 18 months under him than it did in the previous 18 months under Biden, that the unemployment rate is at an all-time low, job gains at all time highs, wages rising at all-time highs under him, etc, the kind of stuff Trump does all the time, does indeed exhibit serious symptoms of Alzheimer's disease, dementia and cognitive incapacity.
In fact, Trump boasts about being required by his handlers to take a cognitive assessment test every other week or so. Clearly, there is something seriously wrong with him mentally.
The entire US Economic System is rigged against regular people like me!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]OK, let's keep it simple.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is important to keep things simple as I am just a poor black man trying to make it. I do not have the financial resources and intellectual capacity that men of privilege have such as yourself and your man Elvis2008.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]Wager #1 & #2 are on #3 is out. I am not fussy about which index we use. The CPI-you seasonally adjusted month to month or the annual year over year unadjusted, either one is fine with me. But if you don't like CPI then suggest another well-known price index. I do not think different price indices will affect the end results of our wager very much, but we should decide on an index now anyway.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]The U.S. Consumer Price Index (CPI) for Food was at 348.89 in May 2026, reflecting a 3.08% increase from the previous year. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that the average annual growth rate for food prices is approximately 3.47%, with the index base period set to 1982-84=100.
Recent Trends and Context
Inflation Rate: The food inflation rate peaked at roughly 10% in 2022 and has since subsided to about 3% in recent years.
Year-over-Year Change: The index rose from 338.47 in May 2025 to 348.89 in May 2026, with a monthly increase of 0.16% from April 2026.
Long-Term Growth: Since tracking began in 1913, the CPI for Food has increased from a value of 9.917 to 347.21 in 2026, demonstrating significant cumulative price growth over more than a century.[/QUOTE][U]#2[/U]
I will probably lose this one because they are changing how the PCE is calculated starting in September of 2026. So the Dis United States of America have decided to game the numbers in order to give the FED room to not raise rates and letting the economy run hot or even lowering them. The bond market always sees through the [B]male bovine excrement[/B] manipulation.
[B]The long-term interest rates for U.S. Treasury Bonds (T-Bonds) are currently represented by yields of 5.08% for the 20-year bond and 5.07% for the 30-year bond as of July 13, 2026.[/B]
Ask your man Elvis2008 what happens to bond prices when interest rates go up.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]And if you don't want to include girly drinks as part of the wager, no problem. I will take care of whomever I am with and you can do the same on your end.[/QUOTE]Damn straight. Buy drinks for your own bitches. I'm not buying any for mine because I don't have any. You will be on vacation. Just another farang in Thailand on a wheels up clock. You need bitches. That is why you are coming.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]I don't have any particular place in mind because I have been away so long I am reluctant to name one. But I will probably come up with one after I am in town for a few days.[/QUOTE]You cannot name anyplace I cannot afford two drinks for you. It is your expenses that will go up if you buy drinks for your the multiple bitches that you want to gloat in front about your win.
If I win we are going to the [U]Bus Bar[/U] in Treetown.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]So, the 1st thing I plan to do when I return is to revisit all my favorite haunts from back when and then I will start to update my base to include any new places that I like. It's going to fun to be back. I am looking forward to it like a virgin. 555![/QUOTE]I hope you are not a white hoodie wearing mother fucker like your man Elvis2008. If you win and we go to a place where there are bare breasts hanging out and you start talking politics. I'm paying my bar bill for you and walking the fuck out. I have no patience for those who don't have their priorities in order. You keep that in mind.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
Canada another man of the rich and racist party of the Republicans is clueless!
[QUOTE=Canada;3074338]The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years. It has been a huge win for the market and Americans with 401 retirement in last 18 months.[/QUOTE][B]Why is it that people think the Stock Market is the end all and be all of investments?[/B]
[QUOTE]As of recent data, 37% of U.S. adults hold stocks, bonds, ETFs, or mutual funds in taxable brokerage accounts outside of retirement accounts like 401(k)s or IRAs, according to the Federal Reserve's 2025 Survey of Household Economics and Decision-making.*
This means that while roughly 58% of American adults own stock in some form (including through retirement plans), only about one-third of the population has invested in the market through a direct, non-retirement vehicle.*
The remaining majority of stock owners participate primarily through workplace retirement plans or individual retirement accounts rather than active brokerage trading.[/QUOTE]30% of workers in the Dis United States of America do not have a 401 K.
[QUOTE]As of 2024, approximately 70 million active participants were served by 401(k) plans, which held roughly $8.9 trillion in assets.
In terms of access, 71.5 million American workers had access to 401(k) accounts in 2023, representing about 67% of all US employees.
*Participation rates vary significantly by employment type, with 80% of union workers participating compared to 50% of nonunion workers.[/QUOTE]If I am one of those workers the stock market increase has done jack for me. Nor has it done anything for the 30% of my fellow hard working citizens of the Dis United States of America.
[U]But if you are POTUS:[/U]
[QUOTE]Donald Trump has made an estimated $1.4 billion to $2.2 billion in personal profit since returning to the presidency in January 2025, with his net worth surging by approximately $3 billion to reach between $6.5 billion and $7.3 billion by mid-2026.
The primary driver of this wealth accumulation is his family's cryptocurrency ventures, particularly World Liberty Financial, which generated over $1 billion in proceeds through token sales and foreign investments, including a significant deal with the UAE.
[b]Cryptocurrency and Business Ventures[/b] constitute the bulk of his earnings, with financial disclosures showing roughly $1.4 billion in crypto-related income alone from entities like World Liberty Financial and Celebration Coins.
Additional revenue streams include licensing his name to international hospitality projects, settling lawsuits with media and tech companies for multi-million dollar sums, and avoiding a $515 million penalty in a New York fraud case due to legal wins..[/QUOTE][I]Canada[/I], you need to put down your red, white and blue pom poms, step out of your cheerleading skirt and take a look at the reality for regular citizens of the Dis United States of America like this poor black man just trying make in a world that is easy for you due to privilege given to you from birth.
Government doesn't control the markets
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074446][B]A statement like this scares me![/B] The belief that markets only move in one direction. Blinded by political bias because his man or political party is in office. No one has made a factual argument that governments can control the movement of markets.
[B]Are you even old enough to ever have ridden out a bear market in anything?[/B][/QUOTE]Government has never controlled the markets but a governments bad policies and increased regulation can be very detrimental to the markets. A strong president and his policies that are beneficial to USA companies strengthen the markets as we have seen the last 18 months. I have ridden out several oil booms and busts and ridden out several bull and bear markets. Bear markets offer the investors great opportunities and that is where you can make your greatest gains. After every bear market a bull market appears. In a bear market you never sell. Just buy more.
People voting with their feet
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3074472]Few surprises here:
[B]The best states to live in for 2026: No. 1 has a six-year winning streak[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/best-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[B]These are Americas 10 worst states to live in for 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/worst-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]Could the writers of these pieces be a wee bit biased?
Tiny: For domestic migration in recent years, what is net migration from red states to blue states or vice versa? I'd like a total for all states, not individual ones.
ChatGPT Pro, after crunching for about two minutes: Using 2024 presidential results to classify states as red or blue, recent domestic migration has been clearly from blue states to red states.
In 2023:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 2,006,271.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,375,854.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 630,417.
In 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 1,852,088.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,307,618.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 544,470.
Combined 2023 and 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 3,858,359.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 2,683,472.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 1,174,887.
So over those two years, red states gained about 1. 17 million residents net from blue states, or roughly 587,000 per year.
This is a true cross-group calculation using Census state-to-state migration data. Moves between two red states or between two blue states are excluded. Maine is classified as blue and Nebraska as red based on the statewide 2024 presidential vote.
The data show the direction of migration, but do not by themselves prove that politics caused it. Housing costs, jobs, retirement, climate, family ties and taxes may all contribute.