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[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3029283]Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.[/QUOTE]Are there girls in Maxwell Hotel? It looks like a regular hotel.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;3029293]Are there girls in Maxwell Hotel? It looks like a regular hotel.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's called El Centro spa but you need a QR code to get in. I don't get why they do it that way. If you don't have the QR code, the security guy won't let you in the elevator. The place was empty when I went, around 7 pm.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3029283]Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.[/QUOTE]Let me see if I can find my receipts but I am sure I paid 1,7 mil (1,681 or so) wich was 1,55 for the red dress girl and 150 k rip on the tip sheet. Seems inconsistent but agree, way overpriced.

I can confirm that T5 has also reduced it's timing from 1 hour to 45 min (or maybe 40 min, as I got different answers). I asked the Mami, and also the room boy, and both confirmed the reduction in time. The room phone rang after 35 minutes today. So, basically, whether you're in T2 or T5, expect the room phone to ring at either 30 mins or 35 minutes.

Since, the before / after showering takes the same time as before, this reduction in time is coming straight from the 'intimate' part of the session. As a result, I certainly felt a sense of urgency today.

There you have it.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3029316]Yes, it's called El Centro spa but you need a QR code to get in. I don't get why they do it that way. If you don't have the QR code, the security guy won't let you in the elevator. The place was empty when I went, around 7 pm.[/QUOTE]So when would be a better time to go there, earlier or later?

When you guys book 3 hour sessions at Classic do you now get 2 HR 40 minute sessions or 2 hour sessions (3 x 40 minutes)?

Are those being short changed on time known regulars by the mamasans shorting you?

Where is KI mate?

[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3029149]Not sure how the quality of the girls will increase as a result of reducing the time-in-the-room.

Anyway, it seems that the time reduction from 1 hour to 40 minutes (45?) is a real thing and not just what I was told when I pushed the issue. My main point of concern is that the mongers are not told this when they book a girl. The mami can easily say "New times. You now get 40 minutes", or the room boy, who leads you to the room with the girl, can say the same. This would allow better planning for the monger on how long he wants to kiss / cuddle, and change positions etc. Instead, I had the phone ring loudly and unexpectedly, causing disruption and losing focus, just when I was thrusting into a lovely, warm vagina. And the banging on the door is not conducive to a good finish. First World Problems, I know.

As for what difference the reduced timings will make. The owners benefit, the mami's benefit, the girls benefit. Everyone fucking benefits except the punter. For the weekend party-goers who fly in from Singapore etc and bang for 2 nights and return home, there's not much they can do about these changes. But for longer term guys like me, who are here for months, I can see Classic becoming a showroom. I'll try new girls, and the ones who give great service will become my private companions on their days off. And I'll probably spend more time in KI. As someone who's been going to Classic maybe 4-5 times a week, this will probably come down to 2-3 times now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3029427]When you guys book 3 hour sessions at Classic do you now get 2 HR 40 minute sessions or 2 hour sessions (3 x 40 minutes)?

Are those being short changed on time known regulars by the mamasans shorting you?[/QUOTE]I believe it has nothing to do with the mamas but the "owner" of the infrastructure aka the rooms. I have seen T5 girls use sometimes 3rd or 4th level rooms (ironically labelled Terminal 4) and T2 Girls using first level or 4th level rooms. As there is also an 90 k fee for the room on your bill so I would assume these are only affiliated but not necessarily the same operations. And you will get 3 times 40 minutes of course only. BTW take out is 7 vouchers, so a whopping 2,55 mil for the night but they will start molest you as soon as 6 am to let the girl go by calling or texting her. So absolutely not worth it. And it seems some (or most?) of the girls also have another owner besides the mama. Not a good or fair system IMHO.

I ventured out to Citibung and stayed at Swiss-belinn Citibung hotel you need transport to go anywhere. Trying to cross an always busy highway is dangerous especially when it's dark.

Plenty of indomaret around if you can cross the road.

Tenda biru is a couple of streets with karaoke type shops with music and girls sitting outside hard to say how many girls I wasn't there to count maybe 30- 50. Rooms are upstairs. Price is 200 k.

Places open at 8 some are 9 most of the girls had the same type of look so hard to choose. All had uniforms.

Saw only 1 other customer walking about.

Would I recommend this place no because nothing else to do here and have to deal with a majorly busy road safety is of concern with men loitering around waiting for what?

If you want to check it out I've attached a map. If you can locate Ramayana then the entrance is directly opposite on the other side of the road. Here a motorcycle taxi will go through a maze like area until you see the bars with bright colours and lights and hear the music.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3029283]Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.[/QUOTE]I think they just increase the price a little bit. If you take out the drinks on your bill, it is just 1.5 jt per person. What confused me is they priced the top tier more expensive than 1001. Tbh 1001 has way better lu except the pool time.

After 11 days of nothing I decided to try Kimochi Mabes. Will report on it together with my next adventure tomorrow.

In the meantime I have two questions:

1) in Orchardz Spa are tips included?

2) If you get the phone number of a Classic girl, how much would you pay her to come to your place?

How much time included for door knock.

Maybe better go Saturday higher volume of people?

Google maps can find direct link.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3029496]I ventured out to Citibung and stayed at Swiss-belinn Citibung hotel you need transport to go anywhere. Trying to cross an always busy highway is dangerous especially when it's dark.

Plenty of indomaret around if you can cross the road.

Tenda biru is a couple of streets with karaoke type shops with music and girls sitting outside hard to say how many girls I wasn't there to count maybe 30- 50. Rooms are upstairs. Price is 200 k.

Places open at 8 some are 9 most of the girls had the same type of look so hard to choose. All had uniforms.

Saw only 1 other customer walking about.

Would I recommend this place no because nothing else to do here and have to deal with a majorly busy road safety is of concern with men loitering around waiting for what?

If you want to check it out I've attached a map. If you can locate Ramayana then the entrance is directly opposite on the other side of the road. Here a motorcycle taxi will go through a maze like area until you see the bars with bright colours and lights and hear the music.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3029555]How much time included for door knock.

Maybe better go Saturday higher volume of people?

Google maps can find direct link.[/QUOTE]No idea I don't require a lot of time it's possibly 30 mins.

But only 200 k and everyone seemed friendly and receptive to Bule compared to my next report in Cikarang.

So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.

Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.

This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.

I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.

Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.

Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming smiling and asking me to choose a girl but their girs looked disinterested.
That was my first experience of being unwelcomed apart from the furthest sofa in classic next to the entrance to go downstairs that spfa looked quiet last time I was in.

The price here is 200 K. Same as Cibitung. You were definitely up-charged.

Friendliness varied greatly between different areas and bars.

The biggest drawback here was time. Ladies will point to their wrist to signal "hurry up and finish, time is up" after like 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3029569]So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.

Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.

This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.

I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.

Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.

Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming but their girls werent interested.[/QUOTE]