Manila

Hi gents, I want to go to Philippines for 2 weeks vacation in February. My idea was to go Manila first for a few days to meet a couple of girls and then pick one of them that I can latter take with me to a resort for some beach time (Palawan?) for the reminder of my trip.

So the main question is, what's the best way to find "the" girl?

And second question what would be the daily rate range to take a girl for 7-10 days?

I usually use escort website or telegram to find my fun. Never been to a club to pick up WG.

Note that going to Manila first is only to find the girl. If you believe there's a better way to do this, happy to hear your suggestions. Main purpose of the trip is to spend quality and relaxing time somewhere beautiful with a nice girl happy to please me.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041738]On completely different side note, does midnight Cafe have WG during daytime? I need a backup plan in place if my daytime bootycall ghost me and I m not going into evening without some fun first![/QUOTE]Midnight Haven, formerly called LA Cafe, is open 24/7. There are girls there always, but the number of girls waxes and wanes. Slowest time is Sunday morning, about 6 am-3 pm; usually 5-15 girls (usually the fugliest / oldest / fattest that didn't get a date last night). Hottest time is Friday and Saturday evening, 6 pm-3 am; usually 150-200 girls at any given time (girls quality is an extreme range, from fugly / old / fat to young / hot). Typical weekday evening might be 100 gals.

The girls are all FL and they don't work for the bar. Hence, there is no standard price list (like a gogo bar). Prices vary not only by looks and age, but also by the desperation level of each girl. A hottie might command 6000 p ST on Saturday night, but she might not have anyone offer more than 2000 on Monday night, and she might have to take that. An older fugly might tell you p7000 (too high), and stick to it, not caring if you walk away. It gives the impression that there is little rhyme or reason to the situation. Feel free to dicker (its rather expected), but don't be argumentative. Feel free to walk away and hit up another girl.

Some girls are there several nights a week, while some go once every month or two (the occasional purse pick-me-up).

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041702]Ok, so arrived mid night, breezes thru Immig, grab took 30 min (I opted to use booth which turned out to be less effective).

Got to Apt at 1 am, I had one SA **** lined up but wasn't counting much on her.

I messaged before heading to Ermate and she agreed to come at 1:45 am, got her grab at near by 7-11.

She showed up in a see thru, trying to hide nips as all of 7-11 start staring. Hahah, it was comical.

We did walk of shame from store to building, my guard was quite puzzled seeing that I pulled a girl in 35 minute after check-in.

The shitshow started when we ger upstairs. Usual non sensical talk, some drinks and doing body caresses. I was felling her boobs thru see thru and tried to kiss few times and she dodged me everytime when I tried to kiss lips. First red flag.

I asked if she doesn't like kissing, but she denied saying she do.

Then she wanted to give me message but she was fucking shy and wants me to turn light off.

2nd red flag and I just blurted if she is LB and hiding it. She was shocked for a minute and then said no she is not. I literally grabbed her crotch standing in front of me and she jumped 2 feet away. 3rd red flag so I asked her to take off jeans and I took mine off.

She sat on me reverse cow grinding but don't let me put hands in thong. I did manage to stroke above fabric and confirm there is no LB stick hidden.

I took her off me and told her to suck me off to which she said that she doesn't like it.

That was the last straw, I flipped out and my redneck came out full swinging. 5 HR of fuckin flight and dick full of cum. I was about to throw her off my 34th floor balcony.

I told her to get out of my apartment and I'm not going to put up with it. She gave me a speech about hiv rate increase in manila and how oral uncovered is risky and I got more pissed hearing made up FDA warnings from that *****.

I told her that we are done and I'm going to walk her downstairs. I gave her 300 php for her 20 minutes and she asked for grab which I got her (3 $).

The next 10 minutes she spent profusely apologizing and disappointing me but I told her to not worry and find me a friend who can do what I want. She agreed to connect me to one of her friend but could'nt get hold of her as it was 2 am.

I walked her downstairs and my doorman gave consoling looks to me and I looked back with my eyes telling that I didn't prematurely cummed. I just didn't cum at all!!

Its 3 am and I'm contemplating if I try LA Cafe or gogo though my head and physical strength is fried.

I have 3 SA line up for lunch tomorrow and 3 for dinner as well a Provience girl begging to come and stay all weekend.

Here is picture of tonight disaster. Taken from. SA and ahe goes. By Lei on the app. Avoid at all cost.

Sory for typos, typed on phone.[/QUOTE]I think you're wrong, LBs like kissing and sucking men, that's their thing, but I'm the same way: whenever in doubt, better be safe than sorry. And anyway that's all that will go thru my mind even if I see and feel the pussy: was she in thailand? Is that a man made vagina? Etc.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041804]I think you're wrong, LBs like kissing and sucking men, that's their thing, but I'm the same way: whenever in doubt, better be safe than sorry. And anyway that's all that will go thru my mind even if I see and feel the pussy: was she in thailand? Is that a man made vagina? Etc.[/QUOTE]There are a few different possibilities'.

1/. (S) he was a LB and Sir Mush dodged a bullet.

2/. She was too shy / nervous / had limited experience with foreigners to continue with the deed. Maybe this was exaggerated by his blue balls and wanting to get straight down to business.

3/. She was a good girl who never intended to go the whole way. Unlikely as any girl knows why she's being summoned to a guy's room at 2 am. Good girls are typically as blunt as naughty girls about what is and isn't available. I've had several tell me point blank that she will meet but won't be having sex with me.

4/. She simply didn't like Sir Mush and didn't want to fuck him. No shame there. Hard to believe but I've had girls not recognise my magnetic charm and good looks 😁.

5/. It's the Philippines and shit happens for no logical reason whatsoever.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Edouardon;3041767]Hi gents, I want to go to Philippines for 2 weeks vacation in February. My idea was to go Manila first for a few days to meet a couple of girls and then pick one of them that I can latter take with me to a resort for some beach time (Palawan?) for the reminder of my trip.

So the main question is, what's the best way to find "the" girl?

And second question what would be the daily rate range to take a girl for 7-10 days?

I usually use escort website or telegram to find my fun. Never been to a club to pick up WG.

Note that going to Manila first is only to find the girl. If you believe there's a better way to do this, happy to hear your suggestions. Main purpose of the trip is to spend quality and relaxing time somewhere beautiful with a nice girl happy to please me.[/QUOTE]1/ girls are available (in decreasing order of cost and increasing order of ease) on escort sites, bars, online thru meeting organically in the wild.

2/. Escort sites publish girls' rates for everything from 1 hour to 24 hours and beyond, bargirls will likely charge a newbie that they don't know full barfine per day plus travel expenses, for all others, I pay the equivalent to thier ST rate per day for multiple days.

3/. Manila has thousands of girls from all sources. It's a good option for the tourist sites like Palawan, Boracay etc. For the beaches around Cebu, I would just use Cebu City.

Remember that a girl may change once she's out of town and she knows it's difficult to return her. It's much easier to ask if she wants to go away for the weekend and extend than to call an end to things early. Don't mention a week-long holiday early and use it as a carrot to attract girls. Always have a bailout plan.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3041865]There are a few different possibilities'.

1/. (S) he was a LB and Sir Mush dodged a bullet.

2/. She was too shy / nervous / had limited experience with foreigners to continue with the deed. Maybe this was exaggerated by his blue balls and wanting to get straight down to business.

3/. She was a good girl who never intended to go the whole way. Unlikely as any girl knows why she's being summoned to a guy's room at 2 am. Good girls are typically as blunt as naughty girls about what is and isn't available. I've had several tell me point blank that she will meet but won't be having sex with me.

4/. She simply didn't like Sir Mush and didn't want to fuck him. No shame there. Hard to believe but I've had girls not recognise my magnetic charm and good looks 😁.

5/. It's the Philippines and shit happens for no logical reason whatsoever.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I opt for number 5.

Few times, very rare I had girls that didn't want to do BJs because "that's dirty", not my dick, but the procedure. That's an instant mood killer, but if you convince her to do it for the first time and you see that she loves it, it's a bonus.

After initial mishap, Manila continues to deliver as expected.

Just had my mid day snack for about 4 hours of fun. A 20 year old engineering student who is limited in sexual escapades came to see over coffee, and we ended up in bed in a full BBFS which I usually don't don't do ever but couldn't resist when I DATY and saw her cum in 2 minutes (I ain't Casanova- the girl was just fuckin horny af).

Will post details later, off to meet a 22 yr old for dinner and she will be my dessert afterwards.

A sneaking preview of my snack attached.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041979]Just had my mid day snack for about 4 hours of fun. A 20 year old engineering student who is limited in sexual escapades came to see over coffee, and we ended up in bed in a full BBFS which I usually don't don't do ever but couldn't resist when I DATY and saw her cum in 2 minutes (I ain't Casanova- the girl was just fuckin horny af).

Will post details later, off to meet a 22 yr old for dinner and she will be my dessert afterwards.[/QUOTE]These are the things a man puts up with in Phils. Sorry you have to suffer thru. Stiff upper. . . Lip. . .

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3041769]Midnight Haven, formerly called LA Cafe, is open 24/7. There are girls there always, but the number of girls waxes and wanes.
The girls are all FL and they don't work for the bar. Hence, there is no standard price list (like a gogo bar).
Prices vary not only by looks and age, but also by the desperation level of each girl. A hottie might command 6000 p ST on Saturday night, but she might not have anyone offer more than 2000 on Monday night, and she might have to take that.\.[/QUOTE]Well noted Westie.

That's the good thing about the flexibility of the FL scene.

There's also a lot more room to negotiate, without becoming known to take the cheapest thing possible.

I'll also take a 6 in the looks department, over an eight, if they're going to agree to an all-nighter with no restrictions and are amazing in the sack.

My average rate for that is 3 k with Red Horse and a feed thrown in as a bonus.

They can take it or leave it.

If it's the latter, I move on and generally always find a taker.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3041869]girls are available (in decreasing order of cost and increasing order of ease) on escort sites, bars, online thru meeting organically in the wild.
Remember that a girl may change once she's out of town and she knows it's difficult to return her. It's much easier to ask if she wants to go away for the weekend and extend than to call an end to things early. Don't mention a week-long holiday early and use it as a carrot to attract girls. Always have a bailout plan.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Good advice G.

Always have the bail out in mind.

It can all get a bit difficult if you take something away and it all turns to shit a day or two.

[QUOTE=Edouardon;3041767]Hi gents, I want to go to Philippines for 2 weeks vacation in February. My idea was to go Manila first for a few days to meet a couple of girls and then pick one of them that I can latter take with me to a resort for some beach time (Palawan?) for the reminder of my trip.

So the main question is, what's the best way to find "the" girl?

And second question what would be the daily rate range to take a girl for 7-10 days?

I usually use escort website or telegram to find my fun. Never been to a club to pick up WG.

Note that going to Manila first is only to find the girl. If you believe there's a better way to do this, happy to hear your suggestions. Main purpose of the trip is to spend quality and relaxing time somewhere beautiful with a nice girl happy to please me.[/QUOTE]Hi Edo,

I personally think you're being a bit ambitious, especially if it's your first trip.

I've had FL contacts in Manila that have been great for long time action and overnighters in a Manila hotel room, that I thought would be ideal to take to Boracay or the like.

I took one out to dinner, only to discover that apart from the conversation in the bedroom, that was about it.

How the hell was I going to spend 24 hrs a day with this girl and for both of us to have a great time?

I'm not saying it can't work at the right price, but chances are, it might be tricky to find a travel companion within a few days.

Alternatively, get on to Pina, make your intentions known from the outset and see where it takes you.

I have taken girls on trips away from home and had a great time; however, they've generally always been long term contacts and not someone I've just met.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3042011]
Hi Edo,

I personally think you're being a bit ambitious, especially if it's your first trip.

I've had FL contacts in Manila that have been great for long time action and overnighters in a Manila hotel room, that I thought would be ideal to take to Boracay or the like.

I took one out to dinner, only to discover that apart from the conversation in the bedroom, that was about it.

How the hell was I going to spend 24 hrs a day with this girl and for both of us to have a great time?

I'm not saying it can't work at the right price, but chances are, it might be tricky to find a travel companion within a few days.

Alternatively, get on to Pina, make your intentions known from the outset and see where it takes you.

I have taken girls on trips away from home and had a great time; however, they've generally always been long term contacts and not someone I've just met.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]There are many unexpected positives and negatives to taking a girl in extended holidays.

[QUOTE=Goferring;1972066]OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for.

My previous comments on what to do and watch for remain unchanged. The only addition would be that having a BG around also limits access to regular pinays as none would be seen with someone obviously traveling with a BG. Something to remember if you want to build contacts with regular girls or do some preparation for repeat visits.

People have various reasons for extended holidays with a BG. I'll comment on how well my trip went to meeting those:

The primary reason anyone brings a BG is "I want unlimited access to sex with a known, skilled provider". Achieved with distinction! Regardless of attitudes of her or me at the time, Service was always available when required and the skill and enthusiasm never dropped. If anything, sessions during frosty moments was more heated and passionate.

"I want to save money and not pay repeated bar fines and / or inflated service charges at remote or tourist areas". I spent 10 k per week for her, 14 k on airfares to two destinations and probably 2 k per day on her trips, trinkets and food. Surprisingly, food in tourist destinations was not a trivial cost. It literally cost more to feed her than fuck her. Do the math over 14 days and the exercise cost 60 k. In hindsight, this could have paid a lot of tourist mark ups for local short timers, a hell of a catch up blow out upon return to civilization or even an extension to the holiday.

"I want to take someone for company or to talk to". Clearly an absolute failure after the third day. It also severely restricted access and contact to other tourists and locals both pinay and visitors.

"I want to take someone with local knowledge / language and who can help organize local requirements". She was absolutely useless at organizing anything with tour offices, taxis etc. It didn't help that she is from Manila and doesn't speak Visayan.

So, would I do it again?

The only way I would do an extended trip again would be with a couple of guys and a few girls so that everyone has something to do and someone to speak with. In hind sight, one on one is only workable for short periods. The Service provided was great and I have no doubt we will catch up again back in her bar but it will be in much shorter periods and in areas where she can be traded out when it's time for a change.

If I was to do another multi week trip I would probably rely on sourcing local providers or if I did want to take someone, it would be multiple people for shorter periods each.

One thing that several people have mentioned (and she has done in the past) is taking a girl to mongering destinations eg. AC, Subic, Cebu etc. To me this is totally counter productive and I would not recommend it. Just recruit locally even if there is an extra tourist tax. It will work out easier in the long run.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Goferring;1969892]Hi guys,

Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.

During my last trip to Sabang I floated the idea to one of the BG's of coming with me on a two week trip to Coron and Alona Beach when I returned to PI. I wanted to know if she would be OK travelling at that time (ie now) or if she would want to stay in Sabang for the busy High Season. She said she was keen to have a holiday and would be fine with skipping work. Obviously I would be covering all expenses She was OK with 10 k peso per week with no additional bar fine payable.

Flights were booked and a couple of emails confirmed meeting points and times when I returned to NAIA.

We flew to Coron and the first few days were pretty uneventful. I went diving every second day and she remained back in the room and provided great service when ever I was back. Unfortunately as the days went by her attitude slowly dropped away. The lack of competition in town lead to her developing a Princess Complex and issuing demands on where we were eating and what we were doing during the day. Needless to say, this pissed me off no end. It got to the point that I actually paid her for the first week and told her to forget about the rest of the holiday. When she realized that she wasn't on a sure thing and that I was fully prepared cut my losses, her attitude immediately changed for the better and profuse excuses and apologies ensued.

I later realized that my choice of location and room had made the situation worse. There is nothing to do in Coron for non divers and our room didn't even have a TV. To make matters worse internet connections (both 3 G and WiFi) were horrendous. Basically she had absolutely nothing to do and no way to chat / message her friends or more importantly maintain business contacts with her boyfriends / other Johns.

When in Coron some other issues that I hadn't considered also popped up:

I should have reminded her not to bring sexy clothes. BG day wear of boob tubes and micro shorts definitely raise eyebrows around a small town.

Having her around killed any opportunity for general catching up or banter with civilians during the day. Other tourists I met and chatted with on the dive boats were very reluctant to sit around and talk with an obvious BG at the table.

The Service was great but after a few days some level of conversation would have been good. I'm not talking solving world hunger but general conversation was pretty much non existent.

We then transferred to Alona / Bohol. It was funny watching her do a junky trying to score impression during the walk / run through town looking to buy Load. She'd been 2 days without connection!! The room here is much better and the place has more facilities so things seem to have settled down and now we are both enjoying ourselves.

In summary, if you are going to take a BG for a holiday:

Pick the destination carefully. Its your cash and time but I've always found that a happier girl leads to better service and generally less stress all round.

Consider how much interaction you want / will have with normal civilians. The more obvious the commercial relationship, the more unlikely you are going to be able to meet or generally chat with other tourists.

How comfortable are you for her to maintain business relationships during the holiday? I'm very upfront with the girl about this not being a BF / GF relationship and am totally OK with her maintaining contacts. I actually find it amusing the various calls to boyfriends expressing undying love one after the other and the language changes as the various time zones come alive. I don't think it's realistic to expect her to drop all contacts for several weeks.

Have a bail out plan and make sure she is aware that you have options should she start to give you the $hits. The girl you know for a night or two in a crowded red light district where you can easily trade her out will not be the same girl after several days in a quiet town where it seems you have no other choice than her.

And most importantly. What do you want from the girl. Decide on this upfront and then choose appropriately. A full on party girl may not be the one to mix with normal tourists nor blend in around town.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

My GF is university a graduate, her only time spent in a bar was when going shopping with me, we been together almost continuously for more than 3 years, I mean day and night, more than with my ex wifes (we had to go to work), and we still don't find much in common to have a natural conversation. Is mostly about things that we see around us, cannot talk history, geography, art, nothing.

Cannot teach her nothing, because like all filipinos she knows better, and gets easily offended if her vast knowledge is challenged.

I get mad lots of times, but then I remember that any alternative would be worst. At least I enjoy when we talk about girls that we fucked together, or future ones.

So, good luck finding one that can sustain an intellectual dialog.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3042103]So, good luck finding one that can sustain an intellectual dialog.[/QUOTE]Concur. Save the intellectual dialog for your mates. In any case a real smart broad is trouble no matter where they are from. They ask too many questions. Cheers!

[QUOTE=DCups;3042194]Concur. Save the intellectual dialog for your mates. In any case a real smart broad is trouble no matter where they are from. They ask too many questions. Cheers![/QUOTE]Questions? She's asking them anyway, lots of them, some based on imaginary events.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041979]After initial mishap, Manila continues to deliver as expected.

Just had my mid day snack for about 4 hours of fun. A 20 year old engineering student who is limited in sexual escapades came to see over coffee, and we ended up in bed in a full BBFS which I usually don't don't do ever but couldn't resist when I DATY and saw her cum in 2 minutes (I ain't Casanova- the girl was just fuckin horny af).

Will post details later, off to meet a 22 yr old for dinner and she will be my dessert afterwards.

A sneaking preview of my snack attached.[/QUOTE]Lucky to get her. She look hot af. Mostly finding girls who are single mom only. How did you find her.