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State economies voting with their actual results
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074543]Could the writers of these pieces be a wee bit biased?
Tiny: For domestic migration in recent years, what is net migration from red states to blue states or vice versa? I'd like a total for all states, not individual ones.
ChatGPT Pro, after crunching for about two minutes: Using 2024 presidential results to classify states as red or blue, recent domestic migration has been clearly from blue states to red states.
In 2023:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 2,006,271.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,375,854.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 630,417.
In 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 1,852,088.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,307,618.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 544,470.
Combined 2023 and 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 3,858,359.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 2,683,472.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 1,174,887.
So over those two years, red states gained about 1. 17 million residents net from blue states, or roughly 587,000 per year.
This is a true cross-group calculation using Census state-to-state migration data. Moves between two red states or between two blue states are excluded. Maine is classified as blue and Nebraska as red based on the statewide 2024 presidential vote.
The data show the direction of migration, but do not by themselves prove that politics caused it. Housing costs, jobs, retirement, climate, family ties and taxes may all contribute.
Again, few surprises here:
[/QUOTE][B]The 10 best state economies in America in 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/13/best-state-economies-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]While the odds of a U.S recession have fallen sharply in the last year, companies are still looking to set up shop in states with solid economies.
With states loudly touting their own economic strength, Economy is one of the most important categories in CNBCs annual competitiveness study, Americas Top States for Business.
Several states stand out for their economic strength this year, based on factors including job growth, strong housing markets and healthy budgets with relatively lows levels of public debt.
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To score each states economy, we consider a variety of factors including economic growth, job growth and the number of major companies headquartered in the state. We also measure each states fiscal health including its budget situation, its long-term obligations and its debt ratings, as well as the health of the residential real estate market. We also consider the impact of tariffs, the potential impact of federal budget cuts, foreign direct investment, and small business survival rates.
While some states are flashing economic warning signs, these ten states have what it takes to power through whatever the U.S. economy throws their way. [/QUOTE]I would have posted the list from 10th to 1st as I did with the previous Best and Worst states in which to live for the sake of simplicity. But for whatever reason that didn't make the transmission from submission to posting here. So I didn't bother to do it this time.
Oh, BTW, we're all still waiting for you, our resident link / substantiation-free data monitor, to issue all those well-earned Pinocchios to Canada for his repeated utter BS claims about the current USA unemployment rates, wage growth, inflation rates, the USA stock market gains over the past 18 months vs the previous 18 months, etc, etc, etc.
Is that coming "in about two weeks"?
Statements on race from the Rich Racist Republican Party Members of the thread
Here we have two members of the Rich Racist Republican Party making their statements on race.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074566]I am not black but I know several black guys working in the oil fields in Canada, Wyoming and North Dakota making over $100,000 a year. They own their own houses and belong to the County Club. Pretty sure they weren't slaves and their parents and grandparents weren't slaves. Not sure of the difference between them and you but they work hard and are making good money. Being black doesn't seem to bother them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074560]Using race as an excuse for personal failure is a ruse and it hurts more young American blacks than just about anything else in the world. Success does not come easy. Nobody hands you your success on a platter. You have to work for it and you have to ignore all the assholes and all the peer pressure that tells you different. Are you an Afro American?[/QUOTE]Either of you two white hoodie wearing (compound profanity redacted) want to explain these numbers?
[QUOTE]In 2024, the overall U.S. poverty rate was 10.6%, affecting approximately 35.9 million people, with rates varying significantly across racial and ethnic groups.
American Indian and Alaska Native populations experienced the highest poverty rate at 19.3%, followed closely by Black individuals at 18.4%. Hispanic poverty rates were reported at 16.6% in 2023 and roughly 18% in 2024 data depending on specific census metrics, while White (non-Hispanic) poverty rates remained the lowest among major groups at approximately 7.7% to 11.5%. Asian populations had the lowest recorded poverty rate at 7.5% to 10.1% in recent years.
American Indian/Alaska Native: ~19.3% (2024)
Black: ~18.4% (2024)
Hispanic: ~16.6% - 18% (2023-2024)
White (non-Hispanic): ~7.7% - 11.5% (2023-2024)
Asian: ~7.5% - 10.1% (2023-2024)
The racial gap in poverty has shown signs of expanding in recent years, with Black poverty rates rising from a record low of 17.1% in 2022 to 18.4% in 2024, which is 2.4 times the rate for non-Hispanic White Americans. [/QUOTE]No didn't think so.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? Do you really know any black people? Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade? These are important questions if you have the answers I would be happy to hear them. Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]Asking a white man who is a member of the Republican party about white privilege like asking a fish if they ever hear of water. They don't realize that they are swimming in it.
Does the Republican Party care if I'm black? Elvis2008 does!
[B]Elvis2008[/B] mentions race and no one in the Rich Racist Republican party has anything to say about it. That means by definition you support racism in your party. It that is not true, you are free to share with me your efforts to combat racism within the Republican Party.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072647]I don't buy that the majority of Republicans are racists, where I've been anyway. I asked ChatGPT about that, and the only hard numbers it came up with were from this Pew survey. 54% of Republicans queried said Blacks and Hispanics face more discrimination than whites.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/05/20/how-much-discrimination-do-americans-say-groups-face-in-the-u-s/[/URL]
[b]Now, unfortunately in his quest to make the GOP a big tent party, Trump has taken in some groups he shouldn't have[/b]. The Trump administration is taking anti-DEI too far. Hegseth is way out in left field. Trump never should have appointed him Secretary of War, and the Senate never should have confirmed him. If I had three job candidates who were well qualifed, one white, one black, and one Hispanic, I'd pick the one with the biggest tits. Failing that, if I chose the black or the Hispanic, for purposes of diversity or because I figured she had to work harder to get to where she is, government has no (expletive deleted) business telling me I can't hire her.[/QUOTE]I am not a Democrat nor a Republican!
Nor do I have a problem being black. The problem is that those who were born of privilege (and don't even know it because life was so easy for them) are not used to a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] speaking his mind to them and telling them the way I see things. Until they explain the poverty numbers in the Dis United States of America as I have laid out in a previous post, they can talk to my hand.
The Dis United States of America has no racism? Get the fuck out of here!
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? [/QUOTE]No he isn't.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Do you really know any black people?[/QUOTE]No he doesn't.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade?[/QUOTE]Most likely back in his family tree.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535] Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]Might as well ask a fish if he ever heard of water.
[QUOTE]Being poor at birth did not give me any privilege.[/QUOTE]Look in the mirror. See your privilege.
The Dis United States of America is a country that uses race as a distraction from the deep wealth and income inequalities in the greater society. My first boss said: [I]Nigger if you don't like the work conditions around here find a mother fucking job[/I]. That is the Dis United States I went to work in.
So, two middle fingers up to people are trying to tell me there is no racism in the Dis United States of America and that the history of slavery does not affect Black Americans to this day economically.
[B]From the Hoover Institution (not exactly a liberal organization):[/B]
[U]The Long Shadows Of Slavery And Jim Crow: Uncovering The Economic Impact On Black Americans[/U]
Click and read the article (take you about 4 minutes is the estimate). Educate yourselves. I would name names but you know who you are.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
Good News for all Sane Americans
WSJ News Alert: Inflation Slowed to 3.5% in June, as Americans Got a Break From Gas Prices.
Inflation Good. Target is 2% WTF?!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074644]WSJ News Alert: Inflation Slowed to 3.5% in June, as Americans Got a Break From Gas Prices.[/QUOTE]Someone who thinks this is good news for citizens of the Dis United States of America is not sane. They have lost their (compound profanity redacted) mind.
[QUOTE]At an annual inflation rate of 3.5%, your money will lose half of its purchasing power in approximately 20.5 years.
This estimate uses the Rule of 72, a standard mental math shortcut for compound interest and inflation:
Years to halve value=
Inflation Rate: 3.5%
72/3.5=20.57 years
While the Rule of 72 provides a quick approximation, precise calculations show that at exactly 3.5% inflation, purchasing power drops by 50% after roughly 19.8 years. For context, at a lower 2% rate, it would take 35 years to lose half your purchasing power, whereas at a higher 5% rate, it would take only 14 years.[/QUOTE][B]Rich Racist Republican please![/B]
Axel Heyst can dish it out but he cannot take it!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074662]As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.
Obviously, you are back on my ignore list. Have fun living in Pattaya on the cheap. You wouldn't be able to enjoy your present lifestyle if you were not a black American.[/QUOTE]So when presented with an academic paper that backs up my premise the response from the Rich Racist Republicans is to revert to [B]Ad hominem[/B] attacks. Par for the course. When they lose the objective intellectual argument that is the play.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074635]The Dis United States of America is a country that uses race as a distraction from the deep wealth and income inequalities in the greater society. My first boss said: [I]Nigger if you don't like the work conditions around here find a mother fucking job[/I]. That is the Dis United States I went to work in.
So, two middle fingers up to people are trying to tell me there is no racism in the Dis United States of America and that the history of slavery does not affect Black Americans to this day economically.
[B]From the Hoover Institution (not exactly a liberal organization):[/B]
[U]The Long Shadows Of Slavery And Jim Crow: Uncovering The Economic Impact On Black Americans[/U]
Click and read the article (take you about 4 minutes is the estimate). Educate yourselves. I would name names but you know who you are.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL][/QUOTE]
You might not like the facts I have presented. But you cannot just ignore them!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074560]Using race as an excuse for personal failure is a ruse and it hurts more young American blacks than just about anything else in the world. Success does not come easy. Nobody hands you your success on a platter. You have to work for it and you have to ignore all the assholes and all the peer pressure that tells you different. Are you an Afro American?[/QUOTE]No, I am a citizen of the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/jim-crow-and-black-economic-progress-after-slavery[/URL]
[QUOTE]This paper studies the long-run effects of slavery and Jim Crow on Black Americans economic outcomes. We trace each Black familys linked census and administrative records between 1850 and 2000 to measure how long they were enslaved and where they lived during Jim Crow. [u]We show that Black families who were enslaved until the Civil War have considerably lower education, income, and wealth today than Black families who were free before the Civil War.[/b] The disparities between the two groups have persisted because most families enslaved until the Civil War lived in states with strict Jim Crow regimes after slavery. In a regression discontinuity design based on ancestors enslavement location, we show that states Jim Crow regimes sharply reduced Black families economic progress in the long run, largely by limiting their access to education. Using quasi-experimental variation, we show that gaining school access closed 80 percent of the gap in human capital caused by exposure to strict Jim Crow regimes.[/QUOTE]Below is the response from a individual who has lost the intellectual argument after I presented evidence that his statements were off base and had no basis in facts.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074662]As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.[/QUOTE]An academic study on records from 1850 to 2000 do not qualify as a [I]basis in facts[/I]? You better look in the mirror if you want to see a [I]that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence[/I]. Because you have presented nothing to back up your opinions or count the facts that I have presented about racism in the Dis United States of America.
You don't get to ignore the facts just because you don't like them. Take your so called "gentleman's bet" and pound sand with it. I'm not debating the issue with you. Racism exists in the Dis United Stated of America. The paper proves it. I'm posted up Thailand. My lifestyle is the result of work the was performed in the face of Racism in the Dis United States of America. Don't you ever forget it or demean it. Because you attitude proves to me that the label I place on members of the Republican Party is accurate. Continue to praise the Dis United States of America and be a pussy colonizer in Brazil and all your other favorite places because you cannot get any pussy in the Dis United States of America. Personally the longer you leave me on you ignore list the less I have to read your crazy rantings about inflation at 3.5% being good.
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Wow. That didn't last long.
The window of opportunity for Black Americans to have their votes truly count and be represented for the taxes they pay was remarkably brief and narrow thanks to the Repub MAGAs in the Supreme Court and every Repub, Bothsider / Neithersider and anyone else who could have but didn't vote straight Dem up and down every ballot since at least the 1990's:
[B]Supreme Court ruling on race-based redistricting prompts quick action in some states.
April 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-redistricting-court-states-race-maps-b90a986d0db5dc49241ab939ff29a179[/URL]
[QUOTE]Before the words were even written on a Supreme Court decision striking down a majority Black congressional district in Louisiana, some states already were taking steps to respond to it.
Wednesdays ruling significantly limits the use of race when drawing voting districts, weakening a Civil Rights-era law that has boosted minority representation in Congress.
The decision came in the midst of a special legislative session in Florida that Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis had called for congressional redistricting on the assumption the Supreme Court would rule as it did. Mississippis Republican governor also already had announced a special legislative session, contingent on the courts ruling.[/QUOTE]Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, etc, all the usual suspects ran to rig districts to suppress the impact of votes by Black Americans faster than you can say "make sure their votes don't count. ".
Oh well.
We tried.
Senate Majorites matter too, folks. They are the ones who confirm Supreme Court nominees. And if a Black American is president when the Repubs have a majority in the Senate you can kiss the chances of him appointing a Supreme Court Justice when the clear and obvious opportunity arises goodbye.
And we're not talking about ye olde days of powdered wigs and horse and buggies. I am 100% certain everyone reading this is old enough to remember when that happened and to have made full intellectual note and understanding of it. Unless some of you MAGA numbskulls are less than 10 years old.
