Jakarta

Yea I don't like how quickly they can change and become aggressive. This isn't an area for us. And I agree friendliness varied from one group to the next.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3029571]The price here is 200 K. Same as Cibitung. You were definitely up-charged.

I had similar experiences to you. Friendliness varied greatly between different areas and bars.

The biggest drawback here was time. I had ladies pointing to their wrist to signal "hurry up and finish, time is up" after like 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Have you experienced Citibung? If so how did you find that for you?

Haven't been. These low end places don't really appeal to me. Yes, it is half price compared to the usual places.

But it is also a filthy plywood box with cum stained, never changed sheets and a thin mattress, no running water, pounding music and hot with sometimes a fan. It's a quick pump and dump. But only if folks can cum quickly in that environment.

It's a different experience for sure. But for just 200 K more, you get a much better experience, service, and facilities in the usual places.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3029573]Have you experienced Citibung? If so how did you find that for you?[/QUOTE]

I made a friend with a friendly Indonesian man he offered to meet me at Kota Indah. He wanted to go to Royale next to Laras Ayu. I convinced him to try Laras. The day before I went here alone so I came back the next day with him. He's a good guy in his 30's speaks English. I asked for the Indonesian experience to get girls to sit with us and drinks.
He’s a funny guy he starts dancing whilst sitting and it breaks the ice and he girls start dancing and smiling I can’t dance like him he’s a big guy and shrugs his shoulders and moves his arms about bopping. The girls react and start pointing to the ceiling with their hands dancing.
Girls would jokingly point to him and say to me this is your translator.

In laras Ayu He asked the mami to bring a line up and I chose a girl to sit with me we order her a drink and not even 10 minutes mami was over wanted to know if I was taking her upstairs the place was dead. After we left he told me it was bad service in there the mami was rude and there were Chinese / indo middle age regulars sitting at the bar playing Chinese games with a cup and dice they acted like they own the place sitting around laughing and shouting. He told me they were rude and wasn't a good place to visit. I then told him the previous day the same ones were drunk and came Into the toilet to piss and looked at me and kept shouting fuck you over and over I didn't react. He also said that mami cut my time short to sit with the girl. He said he knows the mami in Royale and its much better service.

Sure enough we go there we get line up and we get a girl each and drinks ordered no issue with sitting with the girls I think after 30 minutes she asked if we wanted to take the girls upstairs. Unfortunately the girl didn't perform I should have read the body language better she went a bit cold compared to the girl from laras Ayu we discussed he said she was a new girl inexperienced. Anyway thought you might be interested to know the story.

I would absolutely hate to hear the telephone ring while I'm still fucking. With the new 30 minute mark this would frequently happen in my case. I think I will have no other choice than to buy two tickets at once. Has somebody done this already and does it work seamlessly? Or do I have to show the double ticket to the staff downstairs and remind them five times not to call me too early?

If you buy two vouchers, the lady gets two vouchers to hand to the cleaning person who checks your wrist number and vouchers. You don't need to remind them, unless you want to or feel the need to do so. You should get your double time. I've booked double vouchers previously and they know.

This was probably their intention all along. It's basically a way to double prices without actually increasing the price. So Classic is now basically 100% more expensive for a certain amount of customers that may need to book the additional time.

Will be interesting to see if this model stays at Classic or spreads to other venues. I imagine we are seeing the enshittification of Jakarta now. It took a while, longer that most other destinations, but it's here now. Jakarta's gotten too popular with sex tourists from a variety of countries. I've paid very close attention my last few visits. And the locals definitely don't make up the vast majority of customers at Classic now. It's not a locals oriented place like it use to be. Sure. The locals still go there. But there are many, many foreigners there now as well. I think it will be drip, drip, drip now and things will only continue to decline.

This bar business is very much like the airlines. Once one business makes a change, they all make it once someone takes the plunge and gets away with it.


[QUOTE=Safado70;3029608]I would absolutely hate to hear the telephone ring while I'm still fucking. With the new 30 minute mark this would frequently happen in my case. I think I will have no other choice than to buy two tickets at once. Has somebody done this already and does it work seamlessly? Or do I have to show the double ticket to the staff downstairs and remind them five times not to call me too early?[/QUOTE]

50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.

Actually, I would love to have the option to extend my time once I’m already in the room. It sucks to pay double for a girl that turns out to be a dud. Most of the time I recognise a dud within the first 5 to 10 minutes. If a girl kisses well, the rest of the session is usually okay too. Can I somehow get more time once in the room?

Thanks and edited. Math was never my strong suit.

You should be able to extend the time once in the room. I don't remember the exact mechanics of it. But I think I've done it before. I can't remember if you have to stop and pay there, which would be annoying. Or she can call to let them know and you can pay after. But the option should be available. Just tell the lady in the room you want another session. They'll figure it out from there.

Who knows with Classic these days though? Recently they seem to be very mercenary about getting the money beforehand. But it really shouldn't be a problem to extend the session. And they are probably expecting this or have a policy for it based on the time reduction.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3029613]50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3029614]...

You should be able to extend the time once in the room. I don't remember the exact mechanics of it. But I think I've done it before. I can't remember if you have to stop and pay there, which would be annoying. Or she can call to let them know and you can pay after. But the option should be available. Just tell the lady in the room you want another session. They'll figure it out from there.
...[/QUOTE]Now I remember, on my last visit to Classic this month, one mamasan prompted me to book "2 hours". I had her repeat because I'd known mamasans to push for "2 girls", never for "2 hours".

[QUOTE=Safado70;3029613]50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.

Actually, I would love to have the option to extend my time once Im already in the room. It sucks to pay double for a girl that turns out to be a dud. Most of the time I recognise a dud within the first 5 to 10 minutes. If a girl kisses well, the rest of the session is usually okay too. Can I somehow get more time once in the room?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you can. Give the money to the girl. She'll summon one of the guys waiting outside the room. It will cause toing and froing and knocking on the door again to ckeck and reckeck though.

Not so discreet entrance from a side road, I entered into a small reception room where a woman gave me a number. Went through a second door (their socials, WA Telegram etc on the door of which I took a picture) and I was in a larger area where the girls are sitting on sofas on two sides of the room. There were three or four people behind the counter. A woman showed me the menu. The prices were listed in a previous report and as far as I can remember they are the same with a minor difference: it's 400 k for 45 minutes of just sex. The other number I can confirm is 560 k for 90 minutes of massage + sex, which is called paket be, but this DOESN'T INCLUDE kissing (later on that). Kissing only with paket see.

The girls were fat or / and unattractive. There was only one girl who was viable, chubby, maybe a 6 at most, so I picked her. I would normally never pick a girl who is not slim or "normal" but I had no choice.

The rooms are upstairs, very large compared with Classic, I think they are called "VIP rooms". A huge bed, a decent shower but don't get the water in your mouth, it's worse than sea water, very salty. Shower first, the girl leaves and showers in a separate room, then 45 minutes of "massage" with oil. Very poor, it felt like a waste of time. I turn over, more massage, then she asks me if I want to have sex, but first she wants to have water, and asks me if I also want to have water. I should have said no: one bottle costs 20 k, she ordered two bottles so 40 k! I know it's not a lot, but I live here, this is not a short holiday for me, and paying 20 k for something that costs 2 k or less pissed me off but it was only my fault.

This is when I ask for kissing and she says that it's not included in paket be. No point ever returning here then, FK is the foundation of a good encounter. The sex was okay, she was a sweet girl so I kept my spirits high. She seemed uncomfortable during sex. This is not the first time, I had one girl before (one of the six I've seen so far) who refused to be on top because I was "too long". I am the kind of man who wants to see the girl enjoy herself, so this sucks. So far 4 girls seemed to be perfectly fine with my size, one refused the position, and two had this expression of pain on their faces during sex.

The water came at the very end, I finished my bottle as I was thirsty. Showered in the room, she showered in a different room and returned, then we chatted a bit.

Tips are included so I didn't tip. I knew this only because it was mentioned by Zippos in his report. We went downstairs, I said goodbye, she was sweet till the end and couldn't fault her in that sense. She gave good service within the limits of her abilities.

I paid 600 k in the small entrance reception, 560 k + 40 k for the water.

I would return only if the 400 k plan includes FK and if there is a girl that I find attractive. This could be easily verified with WA or Telegram.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3029611]If you buy two vouchers, the lady gets two vouchers to hand to the cleaning person who checks your wrist number and vouchers. You don't need to remind them, unless you want to or feel the need to do so. You should get your double time. I've booked double vouchers previously and they know.

This was probably their intention all along. It's basically a way to double prices without actually increasing the price. So Classic is now basically 100% more expensive for a certain amount of customers that may need to book the additional time.

Will be interesting to see if this model stays at Classic or spreads to other venues. I imagine we are seeing the enshittification of Jakarta now. It took a while, longer that most other destinations, but it's here now. Jakarta's gotten too popular with sex tourists from a variety of countries. I've paid very close attention my last few visits. And the locals definitely don't make up the vast majority of customers at Classic now. It's not a locals oriented place like it use to be. Sure. The locals still go there. But there are many, many foreigners there now as well. I think it will be drip, drip, drip now and things will only continue to decline.

This bar business is very much like the airlines. Once one business makes a change, they all make it once someone takes the plunge and gets away with it.[/QUOTE]Sucks. It would be almost funny to take two girls then, just so you have at least 60 minutes as before then, for, what is it, around 140 k extra? Just let your target girl choose whatever friend she wants, fuck your target girl, and ignore the other girl.

Only problem, except for probably some perceived rudeness once it becomes obvious you have no interest in the other girl, is that it will be more difficult to get a decent session with the target girl as she will be shy about doing some things in front of the third wheel. Guess you can't drop off the third wheel on the way to the room either.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;3029118] But was tempted to try the upscale options and as it was nearby chose Emporium. Return unlikely for me, the girls are not that stunning, looking forward to see if 1001 is really on another level. Went to T5 afterwards and easily found all I needed.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Emporium is just too expensive now and not worth going. They actually have the same boss as 1001. Emporium is the reject shop for 1001. I had better service in the South Jakarta with much lower price and prettier, younger girls.

Visited before 5:30 didn't see many beauties. Lots on the sofa. It was quiet no music. Then at 5:30 pm I heard a robotic voice "welcome to classic" then boom the techno music started it was actually good it made me smile.

Picked a girl I asked if she gave good service confirmed tip for you know what. Then in the room she said no kissing and didn't want the tip but ok to BJ without condom. I was thinking do I quit on her I've just spent 400 k.

I decided to continue but wasn't enjoyable. She didn't ask for tip so that was a small bonus hahaha.

Decided to make amends chose another one and got a very good service this so the one I fished 2 time with her. But before her mami told me to wait there was no rooms I had to wait at least 20 minutes possibly 30 minutes until she brought the condom and receipt for downstairs. I pointed to the sign downstairs reception in the banging area to The workers said it was 1 hour so I put it to the test. I managed to bang a girl twice which is my first time in classic doing this. I waited and waited and waited and waited then 50 minutes on the button phone and knock on door at same time.

I took photo of the sign as now it's 2 girls 60 minutes. They confirmed that with me. Later I saw plenty of beauties when I came back up but I was all used up emptied my sack 3 times in 90 minutes hahaha.

I wish I could have tried them out but I had to leave due to empty balls and empty stomach.

So first time banging twice in the space of an hour. First time I've not been able to go to the rooms downstairs due to availability even though the sofas were plenty full.

Also dancers came on stage with see through fishnet body stockings could see the tits clearly around 7:30 pm.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3029699]Sucks. It would be almost funny to take two girls then, just so you have at least 60 minutes as before then, for, what is it, around 140 k extra? Just let your target girl choose whatever friend she wants, fuck your target girl, and ignore the other girl.

Only problem, except for probably some perceived rudeness once it becomes obvious you have no interest in the other girl, is that it will be more difficult to get a decent session with the target girl as she will be shy about doing some things in front of the third wheel. Guess you can't drop off the third wheel on the way to the room either.[/QUOTE]Or just be completely honest from the beginning and tell the second girl to wait on her sofa. Just remember to tip the main girl a bit more than usual because she'll be getting paid less than normally but will be doing all the work.

Nice Report.

For those who want to check not famous places, but still not too far from Central Jakarta.

There are many small places still openiyor working.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZXCxWeoNvN2gp6aV6[/URL]

New wijaya looks like chain? They have multiple spas.

This one is new from their wa number status updates.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3029569]So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.

Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.

This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.

I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.

Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.

Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming smiling and asking me to choose a girl but their girs looked disinterested.
That was my first experience of being unwelcomed apart from the furthest sofa in classic next to the entrance to go downstairs that spfa looked quiet last time I was in.[/QUOTE]