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[QUOTE=Judd;1978679]XxNegrito very filthy report, and I thank you for it!
I'd say this week and the week of Easter are probably the worst weeks to be here and try to hobby. As it happens, my buddy picked.
This week to tour MDE for the first time. Took him to New Life today around 1:00 in the PM. There was at least ten dudes and only 3 chicas. Turned right around, and headed to some other casas. It was slim pickens today. Maybe it will pick up later in the week.
Judd.[/QUOTE]
This is where having some experience and a list of chicas works. Right now I have more chicas who want to see me than I have time. I arrived tomorrow and will be there until the 5th. Some chicas are from previous visits and some are new. The chicas are out there, but trying to find them (new) at the last minute is not easy. Casas will come up with something. Strip clubs at night. But best bet is if you can find someone with experience and let them perhaps give you some recommendation. There are a lot of chicas who still need money. Either because there was too much supply and not enough demand before Christmas or because they blew their wad on gifts and now need rent money by next Monday.
[QUOTE=Judd;1978679]XxNegrito very filthy report, and I thank you for it!
I'd say this week and the week of Easter are probably the worst weeks to be here and try to hobby. As it happens, my buddy picked.
This week to tour MDE for the first time. Took him to New Life today around 1:00 in the PM. There was at least ten dudes and only 3 chicas. Turned right around, and headed to some other casas. It was slim pickens today. Maybe it will pick up later in the week.
Judd.[/QUOTE]
Hello lads,
This post is made with gratitude for the two fantastic Medellin maps that were graciously shared with me.
About me: I'm a mid 50's gringo who loves Colombian women. I've lived in Colombia for a few years and I speak Spanish OK. Spanish is spoken like a liquid so if your aren't a native Spanish speaker it can be a real challenge (at least to me.). However, some Spanish speaking ability is a must to get what Colombian girls have to offer. If you want an English speaking Colombian girl prepare to pay double or triple the price.
First off, I didn't used the maps at all. I relied upon two websites which I used prior to my trip to collect contacts.
[URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL]/ prepagos / medellin.
Co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]/ escorts / antioquia /.
If the girl you contact is busy ask her about her friends, she will usually offer them to you first. With a little preparation you will have more contacts than you can use.
If the girl doesn't have whatsapp do not waste your time. Listings with only a phone number were 90% dead or an agency. Forget how pretty the picture is cause it is usually some other girl or a dead number. 95% the girls use whatsapp and they can send you their actual photo. This will also help you avoid under-age girls, whom are everywhere by the way.
OK. I stayed in an apartment a block from Parque Poblado. First thing:
Parqe Lleras has been scrubbed clean by the Police and has a constant police presence of about 25 Colombian police. Its obvious the local government wants Poblado and especially Parque LLeras clean of sex workers. Why? Well.
I was walking one evening around 9 pm and was simply going to eat. Two girls came up to me, I promptly asked to see their cedulas, they were both 20 years old with well worn cedulas that seemed real to my eye (more later). All I wanted was diner and the girls said they were hungry so I so, OK, let's go eat. Immediately two police detained me and the girls. The cops looked over the girls' cedulas and let them go free back in the park, clearly they were of age otherwise they would have been sent elsewhere. The cops detained me for quite some time and repeatedly warned me about Colombia's problem with under-age sex workers. I told the cops that I saw the girls cedulas and that the police had seen them as well and let the girls go free, so obviously they were adults. No matter, another policeman joined and lectured me more about under-age sex workers. The police then took my passport number and address where I was staying and eventually let me go. The message was clear:
"Gringo, gets your girls someplace else!
Parque Poblando has been cleaned up as well. Even at 1:00 am in the morning Parque Poblado is filled with regular Colombian teenagers chatting and drinking beer.
Parqe Poblado is all setup for Christmas and regular folk.
El Poblado, Medellin is without a doubt a very safe area to stay but one should look for girls elsewhere. In addition an El Poblado address tells the girl to raise the price so keep that in mind.
Having learned this about Poblado I began to dislike being in Poblado immediately, yes, Spanish is hard for me to understand sometimes but I speak it fine and I am accustomed to going "native" in Colombia and speaking only Spanish. The other places in Colombia I've been and lived the Colombians spoke virtually all Spanish. I'm fine with that. El Poblado was like fucking South Beach, Miami. I'm grateful for the safety that El Poblado provided but next time I will stay in Laureles.
Word of caution: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls are everywhere in the streets and parks. Colombia will throw a gringo in prison in a second but will let ten thousand under-age girls roam the streets.
Think about that and if it is worth it to you. In addition the girl will say she is of age then later she will tell you the truth and start to black mail you for days after. Staying in a hotel protects you, since the portero will record the girl's cedula in advance of admission.
My advice is to avoid street walkers entirely, unless your thing is 40 year old women who are easy to age recognize.
Even the websites have listings for under-age girls. Demand to see the girl's cedula, if she givers you some stupid excuse why she doesn't have one, well. That means she is not 18.
OK. What about price? Obviously one must shop for value for everything but its hard to argue what price should be paid. What do you want?
A 35 year old with a tummy and has been fucked six thousand times?
A genuine 19 year old college student who has a few clients during the week?
A 20 year old college student who has given up and now fucks guys 5 or more per day?
The Colombia sex trade is like the old USA Wild West. Its a huge open market which offers endless possibilities to be robbed or find a diamond in the rough. Some girls.
Really enjoy the sex and others are harder to please due to their own body's limitations. Yep people, these are genuine women and not euro porn stars who take two dicks in their ass at the same time and fake everything. Although you are paying money, your results will vary greatly on how you treat the girl.
As far as money, I stuck with around 100 K pesos per hour plus taxi fare (to my apartment). I am very phookin picky. I want 9's or 10's. Women know their relative beauty so obviously a 9 will cost more than a 6 anywhere you go. I fucking hate talking price because in my experience, the guy who brags about never paying more than 50 K pesos, is usually.
Doing 40 year old fat girls. Whatever. There is no set rule, shop for value as always. I saw some of the girls advertising 170 K for two hours for Colombian men as a special, so I told the girls I wanted to pay that as a start. I had to go to 200 K for two hours once they saw my Poblado address. That's fine. I chose the safety and comfort of my gringo apartment over some Colombian room where who knows who will enter.
Bottom line, I had a blast and fell in love with 4 different girls. Here's a picture of one who I'll never forget.
Cheers!
Agreed. That's what I explained to my buddy. MDE is more conducive to establishing contacts with the casa and strip club chicas. I'd rather just hit a casa and get on with my day, but I see the value of having a stable of chicas to call on when your hardup. That's the great thing about MDE, there's something for just about everyone here!
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;1978708]This is where having some experience and a list of chicas works. Right now I have more chicas who want to see me than I have time. I arrived tomorrow and will be there until the 5th. Some chicas are from previous visits and some are new. The chicas are out there, but trying to find them (new) at the last minute is not easy. Casas will come up with something. Strip clubs at night. But best bet is if you can find someone with experience and let them perhaps give you some recommendation. There are a lot of chicas who still need money. Either because there was too much supply and not enough demand before Christmas or because they blew their wad on gifts and now need rent money by next Monday.[/QUOTE].
I was at New Life today and it was GREAT. About 12 chicas to choose from. Guess I went at the right time. It was about 12 noon.
I do 1 casa a day and a FB girl a day at my place. So 2 a day until I leave.
[QUOTE=Judd;1978679]XxNegrito very filthy report, and I thank you for it!
I'd say this week and the week of Easter are probably the worst weeks to be here and try to hobby. As it happens, my buddy picked.
This week to tour MDE for the first time. Took him to New Life today around 1:00 in the PM. There was at least ten dudes and only 3 chicas. Turned right around, and headed to some other casas. It was slim pickens today. Maybe it will pick up later in the week.
Judd.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979123]Parqe Lleras has been scrubbed clean by the Police and has a constant police presence of about 25 Colombian police. Its obvious the local government wants Poblado and especially Parque LLeras clean of sex workers. Why? Well.[/QUOTE]P. que LLeras has been always full of police, since the first time I visited it many years ago.
Truth is that in the recent years the presence of WGs has been more and more evident, and this is not good at all for the local business, which aims at higher-end tourists and local youth. Local upper-class people clearly do not like to hang out in a place where obvious prostitutes are soliciting, not to mention the foreigners who approach a local sexy beauty by mistake, thinking she is on sale. Imagine the feeling of her and of her friends.
Said this, I never saw so many WGs in P. Que LLeras as the last time I went there (November). Couples and even a group of 6 pretty girls, dressed sexy as all other girls walking around with their boyfriends.
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979123]I was walking one evening around 9 pm and was simply going to eat. Two girls came up to me, I promptly asked to see their cedulas, they were both 20 years old with well worn cedulas that seemed real to my eye (more later). All I wanted was diner and the girls said they were hungry so I so, OK, let's go eat. Immediately two police detained me and the girls. [/QUOTE]You "promptly" requested the cedula to a couple of 20+ girls just to seat and have dinner...?? They must have been hungry to accept.
It's coming to my mind now, when I had to stop over for lunch at EWR or JFK airport. I wanted a simple burger with beer and the waitress requested to see my picture ID before serving the beer. :eek:
GOSH! They were so damn serious requesting the picture ID to a man clearly above 45 yo! A 70+ couple sitting next to me assured they had to show the picture ID as well. It must be an American thing, because nobody was laughing about that, while I was literally ROFL.
(Ironically enough, but just for me maybe, at least in Texas it is legal to walk in the street with a gun in evidence, but not with a bottle of beer in hand. Traveling is good, because we always see new things).
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979123]The message was clear:
"Gringo, gets your girls someplace else![/QUOTE]That is totally true.
Local authorities are doing their best, whatever they can, to discourage and push away that type of customers from clubs, restaurants and popular entertainment places.
With "that type of customers", I mean those who represent graphically the icon of the "sex tourist", that is in particular 50yo and older guys, clearly foreigners (by the face or the dress look), accompanied by a sexy young girl (hot pants and silicon-enhanced shape are a plus).
To be clear: I am not saying that such an image depicts you, but I rather say that, to keep them away, police exercises some pressure on all foreigners with a younger Colombian girl there.
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979123]In addition the girl will say she is of age then later she will tell you the truth and start to black mail you for days after. Staying in a hotel protects you, since the portero will record the girl's cedula in advance of admission.[/QUOTE]1) How could a girl blackmail you days later? Do you give her your home address? Do you give her permission to take selfies of you and her smiling on the bed?
2) Since you are so much concerned about girls looking 25 yo but being actually under the age (damn ISG censorship!), you should know that a fake cedula (or better, an [i]authentic[/i] cedula but belonging to someone else, since most photos look the same) is readily available for around 100k in Medellin. Since you like staying in a hotel and receive your girls there in your room (really uncommon in Medellin), she can come back and blackmail you.
Sorry to spoil everything, but if you have such concerns, your strategy does not make you safer.
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979123]
Parqe Lleras has been scrubbed clean by the Police and has a constant police presence of about 25 Colombian police. Its obvious the local government wants Poblado and especially Parque LLeras clean of sex workers. Why? Well.
[/QUOTE]I wrote this post back in November:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1965508&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1965508.
If there was a day where you could meet classy hookers around Parque Lleras they are long gone. I'm a bit like you in that I'll share a meal with a working girl before fucking her, and the casas and strip clubs don't cater to that type of speed.
I'd love to hear about Laureles and other places in Medellin and how the local action is there (outside of casas).
[QUOTE=Black Page;1979304]
1) How could a girl blackmail you days later? Do you give her your home address? Do you give her permission to take selfies of you and her smiling on the bed?
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This actually happens? I always wondered why a working girl would even take a photo of herself with a customer... I remember once this one girl I was chatting with on Skype wanted me to pull out my prick during the video chat. I refused because I suspected she would take a photo and blackmail me.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1979358]This actually happens?[/QUOTE]I really doubt that!
Wasn't my post clear? As I wrote, what working girl does know the address of the customer? And even if so, how many men would allow a girl with a "Lol*ita look" to take a picture together??
BTW, I took several pix of a pretty girl I met near Reloy in CTG. She really looks the Lol-ita of the famous movie: little evil doll, fake innocent angel face, killing tits, and long braid till almost the butt. She asked me 80 k for 1 hour (the going rate in CTG is 200 k now, seldom downgradable to 150 k). She gave her best, really the best, after I counter-offered 100 k (yes, I like negative negotiation).
I am not for quickies during day time, because I like to operate at night, possibly in my room for all the night, but I could not miss such an opportunity: I almost skipped my dinner to go to Sol de las Indias around 8 pm with her before going back home after a day of walks around.
Hold on, all those with age concerns: her cedula says 21 yo, confirmed by her Facebook page (we can trust more FB than a cedula in Colombia). She has a small baby (pix on FB), but no husband. And this is the problem, not her age. Why no husband?
Because he is in jail sentenced 3 years after having attempted to rob someone with a knife. AAARGHHH...! I better be careful with her.
That is what she told me while in my arms. In her words: they went to CTG to meet some relatives, but no money for them and the baby, hence the robbery attempt, hence, after he got jailed, her work at Reloy as an alternative way to self-sustain her with the baby.
Yes, as you, I don't like just fuck-fuck-fuck. I like to know people. That's the most interesting part of travelling.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1979358]I remember once this one girl I was chatting with on Skype wanted me to pull out my prick during the video chat. I refused because I suspected she would take a photo and blackmail me.[/QUOTE]That is certainly possible. It's always a bad idea to do that, even with someone we know.
Yes, OOT because this is MDE thread and not CTG, but I think people might like a photo anyway of this 21yo girl reported below.
Please note: this is NOT the same girl of the previous tits photo
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1972889&viewfull=1#post1972889[/url]
Myself and two companions are planning in being in Medellin in early March 2017. I have been to Bangkok, Chaigmai, Vietnam, Cambodia and Bogota. Planning on Havana in February 2017. Had a great time in all places, but Bogota was a little off for me. I don't want to make the same mistakes in Medellin. I have looked at the map posted. But wondered if anyone had any suggestions for someone to show me the ropes in MDE or a possible guide. I will only be there for 3 full days and don't want to miss anything, especially the chicks.
Hello everybody,
My friends and I are in Medellin till 31st and would like to hang out with experienced mongers here and hunt in the city. If you are up please PM and we can exchange numbers.
I have read a few posts and it seems the casas for the daytime Energy and new life seem to be mentioned a lot and strip clubs.
I don't understand what prepagos are and how to get them.
So far we have been to Fases and San Diego. Fases I found something I liked, San Diego was a dud.
Cheers.
Sly
[QUOTE=SlySurfz;1979537]Hello everybody,
My friends and I are in Medellin till 31st and would like to hang out with experienced mongers here and hunt in the city. If you are up please PM and we can exchange numbers.
I have read a few posts and it seems the casas for the daytime Energy and new life seem to be mentioned a lot and strip clubs.
I don't understand what prepagos are and how to get them.
So far we have been to Fases and San Diego. Fases I found something I liked, San Diego was a dud.
Cheers.
Sly[/QUOTE]Prepagos are escorts. You get them by either calling an escort agency, or calling the escort if she's not with an agency.
There are frequent reports of escorts not using accurate pictures. Agency escorts start around 200 k per hour, independent escorts are a bit cheaper.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1979304]P. que LLeras has been ALWAYS full of police, since the first time I visited it many years ago.
To be clear: I am not saying that such an image depicts you, but I rather say that, to keep them away, police exercises some pressure on all foreigners with a younger Colombian girl there.
1) How could a girl blackmail you days later? Do you give her your home address? Do you give her permission to take selfies of you and her smiling on the bed?
2) Since you are so much concerned about girls looking 25 yo but being actually under the age (damn ISG censorship!), you should know that a fake cedula (or better, an [i]authentic[/i] cedula but belonging to someone else, since most photos look the same) is readily available for around 100k in Medellin. Since you like staying in a hotel and receive your girls there in your room (really uncommon in Medellin), she can come back and blackmail you.
Sorry to spoil everything, but if you have such concerns, your strategy does not make you safer.[/QUOTE]As I stated my post was simply an attempt to provide some information to others and offer my thanks for the map being shared with me.
I mentioned Parque Lleras and Parque Poblado since I've read many posts here about guys claiming to get women there, so it was meant as an update. Apparently you've known the truth for years. The age difference you mention with Gringos is irrelevant. For every one 50 year old that a Colombian has sex with she has sex with 5 Colombian 50 year olds. Age difference is not an issue. The point of my post was simply to clarify that Parque Lleras & Poblado are not good spots to get girls. Yes some girls are still there but its more.
Hassle than its worth considering the enormous police presence. Just my opinion.
You have no idea whatsoever what I am concerned with at its obvious you didn't read my post. You seem like a know it all type who needs to show everybody how brilliant you are.
Good for you.
As I wrote, I stayed in an apartment, which has no portero, so any girl can simply stand in front and harass someone if that person isn't cautious of who they meet. Thanks for the.
James Bond master class on fake Colombian IDs. Truth is most [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls simply don't have a cedula and try to work around that. It does not ever enter into their minds to pay 100 K for a fake one. These girls live hand to mouth. And no, all Colombian girls don't look alike so looking at their picture can be a great tool. Nothing is perfect but simply asking for a cedula is a great general rule. Obviously you are a complete genius who knows everything but you aren't there to guide all of us idiots so we need to find some way to function no matter how pathetic we may be compared to you.
I lived in Colombia in another city for two years and I do think Medellin has a bigger under-age problem, something I wanted others to know about.
Don't worry, you haven't spoiled anything. I had the best time in Medellin, it was a bit different than the other five major Colombian cities I been to so I wanted.
To post my experience since frankly I was asked to.
For everybody else here, enjoy Medellin and do be careful, it does seem to be a little different than say for example Cartagena.
Happy New Year!
Nektar.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1979358] I'm a bit like you in that I'll share a meal with a working girl before fucking her, and the casas and strip clubs don't cater to that type of speed.
I remember once this one girl I was chatting with on Skype wanted me to pull out my prick during the video chat. I refused because I suspected she would take a photo and blackmail me.[/QUOTE]Yes, my experience has been that Colombian girls can offer a lot more than the simple in bed activities. The strip club or casa de chica girls are so programmed for fuck and run so I find independent girls can offer a more over-all experience. To each his own.
My little adventure with the police over a diner-date taught me that "hard work, planning & commitment" are everything. I had the best time with too many girls to count that.
I all planned out, knew them and worked out the details. The one time, I was relaxed and simply hungry for food, I spontaneously decided to be generous and offer a free meal.
It got me an unwanted session with the authorities.
Its all about hard work and focus even when one is on holiday! LOL.
Yeah man, I don't even mess with video chats or phone pictures. Look what it did for Anthony Weiner.
[QUOTE=Nektar;1979603]As I stated my post was simply an attempt to provide some information to others and.....
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[/QUOTE]Please take it easy. In spite of the tone that my words might have had, I did not mean to lecture you on something you know. I apologize if you had that impression. It went beyond my intentions. Maybe also your language went beyond intentions, or so I want to believe.
The important point, which I wanted to stress, is about cedulas, which someone (also you, based on what I did read) seems to perceive as a safe protection against unwanted sex with a minor, or in case she might steal something from the room.
I don't own the Truth, but please trust me if I tell you that:
1) When a girl speaks about "cedula falsa" (fake ID), she actually means an [I]authentic[/I] cedula bought from the black market (I must slightly correct myself: 100k is the price in CTG, but I don't know in MDE) or borrowed from a friend. Yes, it is difficult to counterfeit perfectly a cedula, and in that case it would not cost just 100k. Needless to say, the poor girls you see in the streets do not even think about that. We are talking about some other class of girls.
(How do I know about the 100k? In these years I have talked to so many working girls in CTG and in MDE, from other cities, from poor barrios, working in Centro or outside, and all information is coherent in confirming the same)
2) I insist: most photos on cedulas are old, black&white, small photos, taken years before. Even the hair cut is different. If the shape of the face is not very different, it is very easy to not notice that the photo is depicting someone else (if not, how could a girl go around and enter a hotel with the cedula of someone else?)
Using the ID of someone else, or using a cedula poorly counterfeited, is not enough if a girl is checked by the Immigration Police, but certainly enough to enter a hotel or to "prove" to the client (??) that everything is ok.
In short, don't call me Genius if I express a word of caution about cedulas. However, true Geniuses can simply ignore my warning.