Jakarta

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;3032778]Went to Classic Terminal 2 yesterday for the first time. Mammasan was asking me to choose right away but I insisted that I will have a beer first. I was then taken to the sofa where I sat and drank my beer.

How are the eastern European girls at Malio? Is their service good and what's the damage? Please let me know want to try them.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are many there (not as much as the SEA girls OFC) but at least 15-20 on any given day is my guess, I just tried one earlier this year as price barrier is high they cost 3 m a pop and the papi asked for tip for him also but I denied that, girl's performance in the room was alright (she ticked all boxes), but as with any east european girls, emotion wasn't as high as I would have liked, but I got her jumping the bed with a thorough DATY, and banged her hard in Doggy and other usual positions, good thing about them is they can take a hard pounding. I asked the Papi beforehand for DFK and there weren't many CIS girls who did it, but luckily there was 1 of the 15/20 who did and he called her for me, she didn't speak much english and the DFK was also name sake lip kiss only.

Although I prioritized my girl based on service aspect first (not that she was bad to look at), but I saw few stunners around as well.

Make sure you go to the lobby (A restaurant type of place), you can buy a beer while you scope out who you want, communication is through papi/mami only.

Don't go to the dance area on 2nd or 3rd floor, they run the shots scam there, I made that mistake in my first visit.

It is worth trying Malio once or twice for CIS if you like them.

If anybody has taken any SEA girls over there, please update FR (Cost I am aware, but please comment on performance vis a vis more VFM options like Classic/Travel etc.)

Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3032967]Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.[/QUOTE]I don't get why anyone goes the online route in a place where getting real girls is so easy (no offence), but I keep hearing / reading and people asking about this stuff, while girls going independent may sound morally right to some (not sure if that is why people go this route), but not everyone has the right business mindset, most of the girls I have seen online have inflated ego's or at least they like to project the golden pussy syndrome, they don't understand that this business has VFM at its heart and there needs to be a good reason for something to be above market price, unfortunately more and more customers entertain this channel of business (may be they are too shy to go into real places or something) which in turn hikes the prices of otherwise VFM places when they hear about these rates. It is no secret that people have become as greedy as they could be when it comes to money all over the world these days, so they will quote you whatever price they fancy, if you get hooked then it is your loss.

On a positive note, try out a Classic or Travel girl and get her number, they also give company in hotel room outside of their business hours or on their day off, and it is a much more reasonable rate that you will encounter compared to these scammers. The standard rate for a full nighter is 600 to 800 k + whatever tip you deem appropriate but don't go over 1 m mark as much as possible, for the truly exceptional you can settle for 1. 5 m, but still don't make it easy for them to hike the prices or else this is another market that will go down under, good examples to reflect this are Phillipines and Thailand these days where prices are comparable with Western prices.

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3032981]I don't get why anyone goes the online route in a place where getting real girls is so easy (no offence), but I keep hearing / reading and people asking about this stuff, while girls going independent may sound morally right to some (not sure if that is why people go this route), but not everyone has the right business mindset, most of the girls I have seen online have inflated ego's or at least they like to project the golden pussy syndrome, they don't understand that this business has VFM at its heart and there needs to be a good reason for something to be above market price, unfortunately more and more customers entertain this channel of business (may be they are too shy to go into real places or something) which in turn hikes the prices of otherwise VFM places when they hear about these rates. It is no secret that people have become as greedy as they could be when it comes to money all over the world these days, so they will quote you whatever price they fancy, if you get hooked then it is your loss.

On a positive note, try out a Classic or Travel girl and get her number, they also give company in hotel room outside of their business hours or on their day off, and it is a much more reasonable rate that you will encounter compared to these scammers. The standard rate for a full nighter is 600 to 800 k + whatever tip you deem appropriate but don't go over 1 m mark as much as possible, for the truly exceptional you can settle for 1. 5 m, but still don't make it easy for them to hike the prices or else this is another market that will go down under, good examples to reflect this are Phillipines and Thailand these days where prices are comparable with Western prices.[/QUOTE]Believe me I love the girl buffet as well. And will be doing Classic first and Emporium second. But I do Seeking a lot worldwide and I've gotten some great GFs there. Because I love full on dinner date and stay the weekend and all that. So I like to mix the two. But yeah the more you look at Jakarta too much GPS with the Seeking girls. I dont see 2M as that far off as thats Emporium pricing and u are together 4+ hours depending on chemistry.

Im not gonna take a Seeking girl first night. Let me pop my Classic cherry and I can always cancel the seeking girl(s) if I fall in love with it.

One other thing I can’t quite follow. I have Classic T5s insta. And they are always posting DJs and a great vibe. But on here it doesn’t sound that way at all. Sounds like u go in and mamasan makes a lineup and u pick a girl. Seems quite at odds with a danceclub vibe. Can someone explain this dichotomy?

[QUOTE=RedRider;3032601]I decided to visit Malio on my first night. . . . Found the 20-year-old girl was very pretty. Flawless. Nice natural boobs and no baby damage. I had a great session with her and tipped her 2.5M. My total bill for the Sprite, room and girl was 1,349,500 or $81 US.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much to Mr. Rider for his helpful report. One followup please:

The way I read your report, you paid the CLUB about 1.350M for your drink, the room and the standard girl fee PLUS a "tip" of 2.5M to the girl directly.

Is that correct?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3032992]
One other thing I cant quite follow. I have Classic T5s insta. And they are always posting DJs and a great vibe. But on here it doesnt sound that way at all. Sounds like u go in and mamasan makes a lineup and u pick a girl. Seems quite at odds with a danceclub vibe. Can someone explain this dichotomy?[/QUOTE]Quick thoughts on your reply, Emporium charges high as it tries to simulate the high end experience and they do have the infra and the service package that lines up with it, at least there the question is that are you after the girl only or do you want a VIP experience. But a SA girl almost pays nothing for any infrastructure whatsoever so she has 0 costs to pay when it comes to investment other than the time she spends with you (in your hotel, you pay for food, you pay for drinks and any other activities), so by that logic their cost should be lowest of them all, but is it? (there is your answer).

T5 I only went once, mamasans over there aren't as aggressive as T2, but they try to keep it exclusive and don't make it as accessible as T2, my guess of reasons included that they wanted to keep it local crowd centric or for the Japanese / Korean / Chinese crowd but definitely not as open as T2, that being said they don't give you any reservation vibe once you reach there, and music / girl selection are all pretty minimum.

For good english music vibe + some milfy freelance action I thought CJs was the best, I never opted for the action, just scouted the place last time.

Sorry. Too many zero's.

250 K ($15).

[QUOTE=RedRider;3033063]Sorry. Too many zero's.

250 K ($15).[/QUOTE]Haha. Yeah looked a bit suss tipping 2 x the price! I was afraid a mob was headed your way to pull your man card!

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;3032801]Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.[/QUOTE]There's nothing we can do. You are going to die.

Hope that helps.

Quote Originally Posted by KoolGuy85:

Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;3033090]There's nothing we can do. You are going to die.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Better get a Grab Feel while there is still time. A once in a lifetime experience. Especially for you.

Royal train track so shady.

Why you like there.

If you in Jakarta.

Go to each place and provide if any unreported new places.

Doubt any other place are cheaper.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;3031803]Train track royal.

Exactly what I needed after a long break from international travel. I feel totally relaxed. Casually filling up 30+ prosys in mostly royal gedong panjang.

Two in classic, one in kota and 3 in lokasari. Which in everyway IMO are simply inferior. Checked most other popular places as well, like malio, travel, raja mas, all classic floors etc. And honestly I could have done without them. Who needs a godforsaken mami or management drilling them to insist on wrapper or upcharge for that. F that.

Sadly big parts of royal were demolished, the hallway of bareback heaven is gone and replaced with a stupid park which made me sigh a lot and honestly was close to shedding tears. What kind of man or men would devalue such a paradise.

Better lighting, music, estimated capacity for 200 more pale white prosys. History. Just why.

If theres similar places to royal ID love to check them out.

Pasar pisang?

Manggarai station?

Cilincing? The place with the ducks LOL.

Tanahabang station?

I don't have one exact pin of them and would greatly appreciate that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3033167]Royal train track so shady.

Why you like there.

If you in Jakarta.

Go to each place and provide if any unreported new places.

Doubt any other place are cheaper.[/QUOTE]No upcharge, stress or whatsoever for BBFS. They don't have their stupid dress code or uniforms and choose their clothes they want to wear themselves. Which often results in wearing foot chains and they cringle so good when you do them its awesome. The high heels in classic for comparison I find just horrible. I like small girls and I have a hard time estimating the height of the girl if they wear those stupid things.

I will scout the things I listed and have super scarce info on eventually but this kind of info usually isn't valued on a board where dudes paying millions to fuck a heated rubber bag hang around. Planning to go again early April but things can change.

FYI. There is a whole threads on the Seeking in Jakarta. Look for it. Good info.

I have using the Seeking for 3 years now. Ups and the downs.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3032967]Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M..[/QUOTE]

How is sagitarius? I read in the Japanese forum its nice and close to hotels in Grand Indonesia. But looks shady from outside.

Does it feel higher end? Or shady.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3032561]Sagitarius is near thamrin not a very big setup, I went there last time. Quality of line up wasn't great and on top price is way more than classic and little less than emporium. Also I checked with papi and they clearly told me no BBBJ so I just used their steam sauna pool and left paid entrance fee, no action there. I prefer classic for price and empo for experience and quality. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

Can you share a link.

[QUOTE=United1;3033232]FYI. There is a whole threads on the Seeking in Jakarta. Look for it. Good info.

I have using the Seeking for 3 years now. Ups and the downs.[/QUOTE]