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Now I usually do not go for BB FS and I take this seriously but what do you guys think about BB BJ?
Its usually acceptable as less of a risk by many, its like many people speak differently as they find BBBJ a less of risk.
I like the idea of shower before and after and condom usage but does anyone try or know of other safe sex stuff which doesn't feel like living in a bunker around WW.
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Kingofman.
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Its usually acceptable as less of a risk by many, its like many people speak differently as they find BBBJ a less of risk.
I like the idea of shower before and after and condom usage but does anyone try or know of other safe sex stuff which doesn't feel like living in a bunker around WW.
[/QUOTE]Its generally accepted that BBBJ is far less risky for the man in catching any type of STDs, and HIV from this unheard of and very hard to prove. Chlamydia is possible but much lower risk than from BBFS (I caught it once from BBBJ presumably). DATY is also far less risky than BBFS. BB anal is considered highly risky.
Other advantage is that girl cannot get pregnant if sperm not in pussy.
Some guys swear by special Japanese polyurethane condoms that do not stretch as having good feeling for sex. Sagami / Origami whatever I forget exact name.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1687276]
Point of my post: The bar did not educate her on STD, or STI's. So I don't expect them to be pushing condom use. And Careful with the fresh off the farm beauties.[/QUOTE]Many girls still have very weak knowledge concerning contraception and STDs. They spend huge time playing on facebook instead of researching more important issues on the internet.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1688029]Some guys swear by special Japanese polyurethane condoms that do not stretch as having good feeling for sex. Sagami / Origami whatever I forget exact name.[/QUOTE]The thin polyurethane condoms are made by Sagami and Okamato. Sagami makes a large size of their 0.02 mm original that might fit westerners better, since it is 58 mm wide instead of 54 mm for the original. This material is like a plastic bag and has no stretch. If you want to try out a thicker version before ordering online, just go to your local pharmacy and buy Trojan Supra, also called BareSkin. The Trojan is much thicker at 0.04 mm and only 54 mm wide but you'll get an idea of the polyurethane material.
The Sagami 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and their 0.02 original is 0.024 mm thick. They have a 0.02 premium that is 0.022 mm. I don't know if a large size is available in the 0.01 or 0.02 premium. There is another brand that is even thinner at 0.015 mm thick, the Unique Pull, also called the Condom Card, since three condoms are packaged in a credit card size container that you can carry in your wallet. It is shipped internationally and is made from polyethylene resin, that is odorless, 3x stronger AND 3x thinner than latex condoms. It is 60 mm wide, which should fit westerners better.
Here is a video showing the Unique Pull:
[URL]http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-brands/unique-pull-condoms-reviewed-thin-condoms-pull-strips-credit-card-package[/URL]
Here is an article about thin condoms:
[URL]http://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condoms[/URL]
The Origami condom is a new silicone condom that is not yet in production. It is folded instead of rolled and has a flange at the base for extra coverage and protection from STDs. It was invented by an American. It is a thick condom, but extra sensation is delivered by it being lubricated on the inside so the penis slides against the silicone material.
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The Sagami 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and their 0.02 original is 0.024 mm thick. They have a 0.02 premium that is 0.022 mm. I don't know if a large size is available in the 0.01 or 0.02 premium. There is another brand that is even thinner at 0.015 mm thick, the Unique Pull, also called the Condom Card, since three condoms are packaged in a credit card size container that you can carry in your wallet. It is shipped internationally and is made from polyethylene resin, that is odorless, 3x stronger AND 3x thinner than latex condoms. It is 60 mm wide, which should fit westerners better.
[/QUOTE]Problem with any condom made in Japan is the size issue, even the large just don't feel comfortable. The extra feeling from wearing a thin condom is lost if your forcing yourself into one too small.
The Unique Pull from the video and the sales link is something I'd like to try out but not for the amount they are selling them. They are almost identical to the pasante unique condoms but the pasante don't have the pull tabs that come away after you've put it on. You can find the Pasante Unique's for roughly a buck a condom which is more affordable than the Pull's. The issue with the Pasante's is there's no rubber band at the base to keep the condom in place, its held in place by a shrink wrap design when the heat of the sex shrinks the condom. Instructions advise to wipe off your dick with a towel if the girl just gave you a BBBJ. The Pasante Unique's size is 0. 015 which makes it slightly thinner than the sagami. The pro's are they feel better than having to force your dick into a tiny condom, the con's are you've got to make sure it stays put.
[URL]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pasante-Unique-Condoms-x-12/dp/B000XRZSWA[/URL]
[QUOTE=Breadman;1691512]The Unique Pull from the video and the sales link is something I'd like to try out but not for the amount they are selling them. They are almost identical to the pasante unique condoms but the pasante don't have the pull tabs that come away after you've put it on. You can find the Pasante Unique's for roughly a buck a condom which is more affordable than the Pull's. The issue with the Pasante's is there's no rubber band at the base to keep the condom in place, its held in place by a shrink wrap design when the heat of the sex shrinks the condom.[/QUOTE]The Pasante Unique is folded, not rolled. That makes it crinkly on application. Supposedly body heat will smooth it out in time. Maybe it should be warmed up with a hair blow dryer after application, like shrink wrap. The flared end at the base could potentially give added coverage to the base of the penis and the pubic area to increase protection against skin to skin transmitted diseases like herpes and warts.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvyOE1nDcJI[/URL]
It is 60 mm wide, which is only slightly wider than the Sagami large at 58 mm. There was once another condom similar to the Pasante Unique, but 70 mm wide. It was called the eZ-on but is no longer in production.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1691512]Problem with any condom made in Japan is the size issue, even the large just don't feel comfortable. The extra feeling from wearing a thin condom is lost if your forcing yourself into one too small.[/QUOTE]I am pretty much average in size, including girth, and the condoms I mentioned gave me no trouble. If you are larger in size, I can see that they might. I really don't recall how stretchy they are, but I do believe they are less elastic than latex.
I had read about the Pasante Unique, but when I was last looking I couldn't find a source of supply.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;1692672]I had read about the Pasante Unique, but when I was last looking I couldn't find a source of supply.[/QUOTE]There are some European condom companies that will ship it internationally for a fee (might be expensive). Do a Google search on Pasante Unique and you will find many links to explore. I have been searching for a condom with a flange on the base for extra protection, so I might do that myself. The fact that it is extra strong and also thin for sensation is a bonus.
I have been researching the Unique condoms and found they are manufactured in Colombia. I found their web site and I see that in Colombia they have a couple of different versions. The one that interests me the most is the Unique Free.
[URL]http://en.condomcard.com/product/unique-free/[/URL]
"This condom has a ring on the base for fast and easy posture. The pubic areas are covered, providing greater protection and preventing the spread of many infections transmitted through bodily fluids. ".
Here is a video showing the Unique Free, with the wide flange at the base that covers the pubic area.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kUYHaCgG8[/URL]
Here is another video showing testing of the Unique condoms:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bG4Y-IgE4[/URL]
I haven't yet been able to find a source for these. I tried to buy one online from Colombia, but the site wasn't set up for international shipping.
[QUOTE=JohnDough;1692703]There are some European condom companies that will ship it internationally for a fee (might be expensive). Do a Google search on Pasante Unique and you will find many links to explore. I have been searching for a condom with a flange on the base for extra protection, so I might do that myself. The fact that it is extra strong and also thin for sensation is a bonus.
I have been researching the Unique condoms and found they are manufactured in Colombia. I found their web site and I see that in Colombia they have a couple of different versions. The one that interests me the most is the Unique Free.
[URL]http://en.condomcard.com/product/unique-free/[/URL]
"This condom has a ring on the base for fast and easy posture. The pubic areas are covered, providing greater protection and preventing the spread of many infections transmitted through bodily fluids. ".
Here is a video showing the Unique Free, with the wide flange at the base that covers the pubic area.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kUYHaCgG8[/URL]
Here is another video showing testing of the Unique condoms:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bG4Y-IgE4[/URL]
I haven't yet been able to find a source for these. I tried to buy one online from Colombia, but the site wasn't set up for international shipping.[/QUOTE]All the condoms in your video links are the Unique condoms that don't have a ring at the base. Look at your video's again, all show a base that balloons out without a rubber band around the base. Then compare your video's to this video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjEixxjtIY[/URL] Also note that there's no pubic area coverage, those pull down sides don't adhere to anything and flap to the wind.
You can easily find the Unique condoms from your video's on any website, its the Unique Pulls that are impossible to find (from my video). I'm wondering if its because installing a band around the base was too expensive?
[QUOTE=FLHawk;1692672]I had read about the Pasante Unique, but when I was last looking I couldn't find a source of supply.[/QUOTE]There's this new online sales website that allows people from all over the world to buy and sell stuff, its an amazing place to shop. Maybe you've never heard of Ebay but you should check it out sometime.
google 'ebay pasante unique condoms', you'll be amazed what you find.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1693070]All the condoms in your video links are the Unique condoms that don't have a ring at the base. Look at your video's again, all show a base that balloons out without a rubber band around the base. Then compare your video's to this video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjEixxjtIY[/URL] Also note that there's no pubic area coverage, those pull down sides don't adhere to anything and flap to the wind.
You can easily find the Unique condoms from your video's on any website, its the Unique Pulls that are impossible to find (from my video). I'm wondering if its because installing a band around the base was too expensive?[/QUOTE]I'm looking for a condom with a large flange at the base to cover the pubic area. The commonly available ones on eBay have the model with the small flange. You're right, they don't have a ring, but supposedly the extra material stays in place since the condom is tight. There is a Chinese condom that is only available in China with a flange and a ring. It is called the GoldCannon. When the Origami condom goes into production it will have a flange.
The Unique Pull is available in.
Canada [URL]http://www.uniquecondom.com/[/URL].
United States [URL]http://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-non-latex-condoms-reviews[/URL].
Costa Rica [URL]http://www.uniquepull.com/[/URL].
Australia [URL]http://condomman.com.au/product/unique-pull-pack-of-3-non-latex-condoms/[/URL].
Italy [URL]http://www.comodo.it/canali/shopping/preservativi/tipo/anallergici/condomcard-unique-pull-3-pezzi/[/URL].
Colombia [URL]http://condomcard.com/producto/unique-pull/[/URL].
If you know anyone in those countries, maybe they could send you some. I don't see any sites that do international shipping. Maybe the eBay sellers of the Pasante Unique would expand their product line if you ask them.
Any BB activity, aside from HJ, involves some risk. Herpes, chlamydia, etc. It's just easier to insist / accept a raincoat for FS than it is for a BJ. Who doesn't like to feel that Hoover action of his seed?
But given the number of willies serviced by many of our favorite gals, there's a daisy chain effect at work. One virus goes a long way, unfortunately.
And HIV is detectable until after 3 months or so of uncovered action, so play safe out there fellas!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1688029]Its generally accepted that BBBJ is far less risky for the man in catching any type of STDs, and HIV from this unheard of and very hard to prove. Chlamydia is possible but much lower risk than from BBFS (I caught it once from BBBJ presumably). DATY is also far less risky than BBFS. BB anal is considered highly risky.
Other advantage is that girl cannot get pregnant if sperm not in pussy.
Some guys swear by special Japanese polyurethane condoms that do not stretch as having good feeling for sex. Sagami / Origami whatever I forget exact name.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Breadman;1693070]Also note that there's no pubic area coverage, those pull down sides don't adhere to anything and flap to the wind.[/QUOTE]The Unique condoms are 190 mm long, which is 7.48 inches. I'm less than that, so the loose material should press against my body, especially during penetration. The dildo in the video where the material is flapping loose must be 9 inches long.
I read somewhere that all the expats in Thailand who have been there for years have herpes and warts, even those who always use a traditional condom.
As for availability of the Unique Pull, I see the U.S. site says they have free worldwide shipping for any order over $24 and a flate fee of $2.99 for smaller international orders.
[URL]http://luckybloke.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JohnDough;1693131]The Unique condoms are 190 mm long, which is 7.48 inches. I'm less than that, so the loose material should press against my body, especially during penetration. The dildo in the video where the material is flapping loose must be 9 inches long.
I read somewhere that all the expats in Thailand who have been there for years have herpes and warts, even those who always use a traditional condom.
As for availability of the Unique Pull, I see the U.S. site says they have free worldwide shipping for any order over $24 and a flate fee of $2.99 for smaller international orders.
[URL]http://luckybloke.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've use the Pasante Unique's at least 40 times so take what I tell you and understand its coming from a usage factor, not internet research. I highly recommend the Unique's to any guy who doesn't mind barebacking if it happens on occasion. If you've got the willies about catching something with the slightest chance of a condom breaking or working its way into the girls pussy, these condoms are not for you. Again, if you disagree with this last statement, please provide us with the number of times you've used said product. I've used these condoms in the states, Canada, Germany and thailand. Only in Thailand did the girls not request a different condom (due to their slipping into the void known as the pussy). Looking at a video and saying said "flap" will press against your body is freaking hilarious, try one and let us know if this ever happens. Maybe if you were doing the girl on the wing of an airplane as it was flying at 400 kph would that flap adhere to your body. I would like to try the Unique Pull but not for $3 per condom.
Oddly, my new favorite condom is the Lifestyles skyn condoms. They even beat out the Unique's which are thinner than the skyns. I've found on occasion the skyn's for roughly 40 cents each if bought in a large quantity, which I've stocked up for my next trip.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1693156]I've use the Pasante Unique's at least 40 times so take what I tell you and understand its coming from a usage factor, not internet research. I highly recommend the Unique's to any guy who doesn't mind barebacking if it happens on occasion. If you've got the willies about catching something with the slightest chance of a condom breaking or working its way into the girls pussy, these condoms are not for you. Again, if you disagree with this last statement, please provide us with the number of times you've used said product. I've used these condoms in the states, Canada, Germany and thailand. Only in Thailand did the girls not request a different condom (due to their slipping into the void known as the pussy). Looking at a video and saying said "flap" will press against your body is freaking hilarious, try one and let us know if this ever happens. Maybe if you were doing the girl on the wing of an airplane as it was flying at 400 kph would that flap adhere to your body. I would like to try the Unique Pull but not for $3 per condom.
Oddly, my new favorite condom is the Lifestyles skyn condoms. They even beat out the Unique's which are thinner than the skyns. I've found on occasion the skyn's for roughly 40 cents each if bought in a large quantity, which I've stocked up for my next trip.[/QUOTE]Thank-you Breadman for your input. I wasn't aware you had used them so extensively. I think the problem with polyethylene and polyurethane condoms is that they don't stretch, so it's difficult to get the correct size (width).
I also like the polyisoprene material used in the Lifestyles Skyn condoms. They have some stretch and there is a large size available. There is also the Durex Real Feel made from the same material.
I guess I will have to wait for the Origami condom to get one with a flange. I think those will be very expensive.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1693070]its the Unique Pulls that are impossible to find (from my video). I'm wondering if its because installing a band around the base was too expensive?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure the Unique Pull has a stretchy band around the base. It might just be a roll of polyethylene. As for the Pasante Unique, couldn't you put an elastic band over top of it at the base of the penis to hold it on?