Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=Villainy;2624898]Every thing you said is either mistaken or a lie. You tell me which?

90% of the casualties weren't at the Eastern Front but it certainly was the highest percentage. Mostly because a complete German army was abandoned and not permitted to retreat during the battle of Stalingrad.

[URL]https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Stalingrad[/URL]

If it had not been for the American supplies and equipment sent to Great Britain and Russia you wouldn't be able to manufacture your version of history.

Oh and BTW you are full of shit about who invented the internet as well.

[URL]https://www.history.com/news/who-invented-the-internet[/URL]

The scientist you reference above, came along later and developed the WWW methodology. BTW he was working at MIT (for ignorant like you that is the abbreviation of Massachusetts Institute of Technology) when these new protocols were developed.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to wade into the WW2 conflict. It's obvious a few people didn't learn their history. It also appears one person is very upset that the Nazis lost.

However, the internet was created by the US DARPA. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Originally it was called DarpaNet.

I was heavily involved in the rollout of access to the WorldWideWeb at Sandia National Labs, in 1995. At the time everyone had access to the internet at the labs, but it was decided that everyone needed WWW access. At the time that required manually configuring each computer, adding the drivers and installing the Netscape browser. Once we got into the swing of it, we could set someone up in about 10 minutes. The hardest part was explaining to everyone why they needed it.

With most of the people, we would just ask what they were interested in, then type it into a search engine and show them the results. Easier and more visual than a Gopher search.

At the time they hadn't come up with an Acceptable Use Policy yet, and told us to tell everyone "use your best judgement. " I warned them that they were going to end up firing a lot of people, because "best judgement" is going to tell them, since they're already allowed to use the internet for personal use during their own time, they would go straight to the porn.

It took less than 3 weeks before they had to start firing people. As soon as it started, my phone started ringing. I went around, changed NICs, Network Interface Cards, changed IPs, and cleared browser histories and saved about 10 people from getting fired. At our next IT meeting my boss had the nerve to ask why nobody had thought about how people might misuse the web. That's when I decided I was done with IT.

I'm currently, much busier than any dead or completely disabled person should be. Sorry for the confusion, but I had some difficulty with your diagnosis. There was only 1 bit which I'm certain about.

You're insane.

When someone who isn't a doctor, who has demonstrated an abysmal level of knowledge, claims he's more qualified than 7 doctors he knows nothing about, that's insane.

When someone (not a doctor, etc) claims to know more about the health of a person he's never met, than the person (or any of his doctors), that's insane.

I could go on, but there's only 2 possible conclusions. Either you're insane, or you're trying to convince everyone you're insane. Considering you're making the effort on an anonymous monger board, I believe it amounts to the same thing. That's not a diagnosis, just an analysis of what you've demonstrated. Feel free to consult with a qualified professional.

I'm certain you will have a response which is equally insane, but it's unlikely I'll find the time to read it, what with being busy and in whatever state of invalidism you've declared for me.

However, I would like to leave you with something you caused me to remember.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Oz-TPoswOQA[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ptrbrgr;2624678]Hi JjBee62,

Ethical concerns aside, I disagree with most of JustTK's statements about vaccination, but that doesn't mean I have to disagree with him if he says the sky is blue.[/QUOTE]I enjoy your methods, although it's been many years since I've been patient enough to emulate them. Benjamin Franklin would approve. If you can find a copy, his autobiography is well worth your time.

I've been doing the online debate thing for over 30 years, well before the worldwide web. Long ago I learned the paradox of reasoned debate. It's nearly impossible to have a reasoned debate.

If you are debating someone capable of reasoned debate, they've done their research, they've correctly applied logic and have built a robust argument. Which leaves only minor points of contention. If your opponent is incapable, or unwilling to engage in reasoned debate, you're left wading through a flood of logical fallacies from someone who has no interest in fact.

The vaccination debate illustrates this perfectly. The main question, to vaccinate or not, is clear, both for the individual and the larger population. What you're left with are reasonably minor side issues. For example, do the rights of the individual override the welfare of the population. I believe it does, with restrictions. However, if you're making the argument of your right to refuse the vaccine, you've given up your argument that others should refuse the vaccine.

One subplot which is fertile for debate is vaccination strategy. Is it better to begin with the most vulnerable, or with those with greater risk of exposure? Another one, should distribution distribution begin with the wealthiest nations or with the poorest? There are many others, but few are interested in pursuing them.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2625027]You know less of history than you do about CoVid. I wonder if anyone here is surprised by that?

Russia did well against Germany largely because the US provided massive support when they needed it most. But you have to give a major assist to Hitler who made a myriad of bone-head mistakes that cost dearly.

You also failed to mention or recognize that after the war the US sent billions of dollars in aid to rebuild the war torn countries of Europe. When in the history of the world has a victorious nation helped rebuild the countries that were allies as well as those that were conquered?? I think the world you'll search for is "never".[/QUOTE]When will USA send the money they owe the EU for taking the consequences of your failed wars in the Middle East?

You USAns might not know it, but you are laughing stock of the rest of the World and one of the biggest reasons for that is your lack of education. So I guess that your lack of knowledge about the WW2 really doesn't surprise me.

The Russians, supported by the UK, did much more than the USAns to beat the Germans. Maybe you didn't know that UK and the US are two different countries? That would explain why you appear to be so confused.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2625304]When will USA send the money they owe the EU for taking the consequences of your failed wars in the Middle East?

You USAns might not know it, but you are laughing stock of the rest of the World and one of the biggest reasons for that is your lack of education. So I guess that your lack of knowledge about the WW2 really doesn't surprise me.

The Russians, supported by the UK, did much more than the USAns to beat the Germans. Maybe you didn't know that UK and the US are two different countries? That would explain why you appear to be so confused.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the US will be happy to square accounts with you Euro-cheats. When are you going to pay up the decades of arrearages in your balances for supporting NATO?

As to your knowledge of WW2 history. You should be bending down kissing our feet and throwing in a few BJ's when asked. If it weren't for US support during and especially after the war, Europe would be a collection of 3rd world countries.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2625050]I only entered this thread because I thought it was funny and some American hamburger chomper was insulting the Spanish language from a position of ignorance. I guess I should apologize for arguing with a fool, one who thinks putas are addressed as Seora Prostituta.[/QUOTE]I just noticed that Mileroticas website title for Sta Marta section is ".

Escorts why prepagos en Santa Marta. Putas Mileroticos" - must be a huge insult to sex workers if one of their primary sales channels refers to them as putas. Haha. I was obviously showing no respect to these people who are not even here to read my words. What disgracefull behaviour! Hehe.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2625304]When will USA send the money they owe the EU for taking the consequences of your failed wars in the Middle East?

You USAns might not know it, but you are laughing stock of the rest of the World and one of the biggest reasons for that is your lack of education. So I guess that your lack of knowledge about the WW2 really doesn't surprise me.

The Russians, supported by the UK, did much more than the USAns to beat the Germans. Maybe you didn't know that UK and the US are two different countries? That would explain why you appear to be so confused.[/QUOTE]Actually Stalin was basically begging for help for a couple years for a western front against the Germans while Churchill and Roosevelt argued but finally decided to wait a so the Russians would be brutalized and also weaken the Germans which is what happened. The UK had been fighting the Germans all over the place usually losing and this is said with no offense intended to the Brits who suffered more than most of us Americans know. Then finally came Normandy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2625067]American men travel to Colombia to get their sexual needs met and you have to hear about how exceptional we are. I can understand why you think we are crazy even if others do not.
You might be confused by the freedom line so let me explain. Freedom does not refer to doing drugs, gambling, or paying women for sex. We Americans have to go to Colombia for those freedoms.
Probably the greatest threat to my freedom is the number of people being paid off by our government and that includes current and former members of the military. These people care a helluva lot more about their government check than freedom.
[/QUOTE]Hehe, yes I agree that "greatness" and "freedom" are meaningless words without context. In what sense are you greatest or free? As you highlight. But in whatever sense you are thinking, it does seem that the USA is becoming less "great" and less "free" with each passing puppet / idiot is in charge. Any rational person can see that the reigns of power have passed completely to the ruling elites. And unfortunately, its not only the USA people that must suffer. And this is why I speak about it.

Where do you think to live?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2625353]I just noticed that Mileroticas website title for Sta Marta section is ".

Escorts why prepagos en Santa Marta. Putas Mileroticos" - must be a huge insult to sex workers if one of their primary sales channels refers to them as putas. Haha. I was obviously showing no respect to these people who are not even here to read my words. What disgracefull behaviour! Hehe.[/QUOTE]I got put on moderate mode as an American in the Philippines who has yet to post one field report or piece of useful information objected o me using the word skank on a report about "the ladies of the night" "courtesans" "escorts" "fille de joie" or whatever one calls feral prostitutes. Maybe Pornhub should moderate its language.

On a slightly different note, I watched a contemporary Sandista band play a Let's Go Brandon number en español, por supuesto. The chick was hot.

[QUOTE=Ptrbrgr;2624650] Here is PETA's take on this:
That said, in many of your posts it seems you are grasping for straws, ... it seems to escape you what conditional probabilities are.[/QUOTE]Hey Prtbrgr.

How are you? Thanks for you reply.

Yes, PETA and the official Vegan Society both have said it's a personal choice, up to the individual, and it is not anti-vegan to have a vaccine (or take medicine). Personally I think there is a lot politics going on in their public positions. Can you imagine if they took the hardline position and said taking medicine was anti-vegan? I would say they would immediately lose most of their members, and end the vegan movement for years to come. It is a hard enough struggle, without alienating the majority of, otherwise, good people. You make a special case for personal health – which is the one time they argue for being selfish. To me it lacks some consistency but I understand that it would be very damaging to take the opposite position.

"it seems to escape you what conditional probabilities are".

No, I have taken that it into consideration. Let me try to explain why the conditional probability is the same. This study result – vaxd person chance to catch COVID – 25%, non-vaxd person chance to catch COVID. Ok, on the face it these results you are more likely to catch COVID if you are not vaxd (due to the vax having some efficacy). However, there are 2 obvious flaws in this data – it is far from complete!

1. The study was run over a fixed period of time. If we lengthen the period then everyone will catch the disease. Both groups will be at 100%. This was verified by Andy Slavitt, the former White House Senior Advisor for COVID Response, who wrote "Given Delta's contagiousness & the fitness of future mutations in order to beat it, this means SARS-CoV-2 will be contagious enough that everyone will get the virus". And that makes logical sense too bcos if we extend the period under review then both groups percentage approach 100 and slow down. So that being the case, every person, whether vaxd or non-vax, will have the virus once, and during time every person will be as equally contagious (as the report stated). So everyone is equally dangerous to a vulnerable person.

2. the research compared a vaxd group vs an unvaxd group. But that unvaxd group is made up of some with natural immunity and some without. If however, there were more people with natural immunity, the stats would be closer together. Until we reach a point when one group is vaxd, and the other group entirely has natural immunity? Then what would the stats show? And what if the vax efficacy has waned in that group? Then what would the stats show?

Studies show natural immunity is better in the long term – see this Israel study - [URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/[/URL].

And for those that say science is against the non-vaxd, read this - [URL]https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Ptrbrgr;2624678] This post however was a bit of a head scratcher.
I am not a vegan, but I fully recognize how much damage to the planet and animal suffering is caused by the meat industry. With all due respect, your rationale and bean examples seem a bit underwhelming in light of the fact...[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, a baseless argument. One that has been thoroughly debunked countless times.

"Let's use beans today. Now, in order to plant beans, I need a field. Which means, since fields aren't naturally occurring, whatever is growing and living on the land where I want to grow beans, needs to be destroyed, wiped out, obliterated. ".

Well firstly, this is true of all food. As you say, most plant crops are fed to farm animals, so most land is cleared for animal farming, not for vegan human consumption. There would already be enough cleared land to feed the world several time over if everyone was vegan. To follow that line of thinking to its conclusion, one would need to argue for the end of all human civilisation in order to stop all farming, and very few advocate for that. Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals.

There are also some crop deaths – again mostly caused to feed farm animals. But vegans would try to minimize these deaths by implementing animal friendly harvesting and delivery techniques, whereas meat eaters would not give a sh*t. Using pesticides to kill 'pests" – again, not an argument against veganism. Farmers are not vegans – vegans would farm using animal friendly techniques.

So to summarise – whatever animal deaths there are in bringing vegan food to the human dinner table – you can multiply it several fold for the meat-eater. Then add on the deliberate cow / pig / chicken / fish deaths. Deaths in vegan food delivery would be accidental in a vegan world, whereas deliberate or uncaring in a carnist world.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2625390]Where do you think to live?[/QUOTE]I just put a deposit down on a place in Cartagena. I have been paying a lot to see my GF and either flying to Colombia to meet her or meet in Mexico, so we decided the time was right to settle on a place. The apartment there, which is expensive actually for Colombia, is $700 per month, but it is beautiful. We have a stunning 16th floor view of the harbor and now we get to pick out the furniture we like and make it into a home. I hope to be there 7 to 10 days a month and slowly increase that amount over time.

The other place I really liked and could see myself living is Argentina. A family member has brought property near Mendoza and the land out there is very rich, and you can live like a king for very little.

Is this impacting the puta market?

I see the media hacks are now blaming floods, mud slides and so on on global warming, not on the fact that Yankee McDonalds man has stripped land of trees and other natural impediments to erosion. Vegan ites are full of manure. The problem is the American one of over eating, over self indulgence. This Americanism is a cancer that spreads, much like their waist lines. Plenty of fat Europeans now. Not as be ad as US Blubber land but getting there. Ad as for African / black women. So unhealthy carrying around all that jelly.

I will give it to Africans, not the tubbies. They sure can move. That is because they move their asses and eat whatever they can.

Anyone know where I could get a vegan cat or dog?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2625483]Yes indeed, a baseless argument. One that has been thoroughly debunked countless times.

"Let's use beans today. Now, in order to plant beans, I need a field. Which means, since fields aren't naturally occurring, whatever is growing and living on the land where I want to grow beans, needs to be destroyed, wiped out, obliterated. ".

Well firstly, this is true of all food. As you say, most plant crops are fed to farm animals, so most land is cleared for animal farming, not for vegan human consumption. There would already be enough cleared land to feed the world several time over if everyone was vegan. To follow that line of thinking to its conclusion, one would need to argue for the end of all human civilisation in order to stop all farming, and very few advocate for that. Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals..[/QUOTE]It's fun watching you think yourself into a corner. Have you spotted the trap you built for yourself yet?

"Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals."

Do you see it yet? I'll add another piece of the puzzle.

"I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti-vivisection."

Perhaps you don't see it because you refuse to accept a few simple facts.

1. Unvaccinated people are more likely to contract Covid.

2. Unvaccinated people are more likely to infect others.

3. Unvaccinated people are more likely to die from Covid.

Even if you eliminate the first 2, which would demonstrate a lack of integrity, you're still left with an inescapable conclusion:

It's better to kill humans than to kill animals to protect humans. Or humans have less right to life than animals.

For the rest, you seem to not understand how farming works. That's not an insult, simply a natural consequence of not growing up on a farm.

If vegans farmed using animal friendly techniques, we would all starve. I say that because it would require everything to be done by hand. Just turning the soil would require 1 person over a week per acre. You could speed that up using draft animals, but that's not particularly animal friendly. At a guess, 1 person could produce enough to feed 10&15 people, but that's 16 hours per day, nearly every day.

Insects aren't the only pests to worry about. All types of small mammals have to be controlled. Look up "The great bunny bash of 1981" for just one example.

You mentioned animal friendly transportation, can you describe that to me? I'm in transportation business and I can really benefit from this animal friendly transportation. In the past 20 months, I've had 3 trucks severely damaged by animals. That's from 4 deer and 1 wild turkey. There were 2 other deer casualties, but they caused minimal damage. There have been countless other casualties, but they're mostly unnoticeable.

There's no way to avoid most collisions with animals. Everyone tries. If you eliminate hunting and other forms of population management, it gets worse. I was in Idaho in 1981 and driving down the highway looked like a jackrabbit invasion. You would see 10-20 every mile, either dead or crossing the road.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the solution for all the existing meat animals if everyone goes vegan. Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2625350]I'm sure the US will be happy to square accounts with you Euro-cheats. When are you going to pay up the decades of arrearages in your balances for supporting NATO?

As to your knowledge of WW2 history. You should be bending down kissing our feet and throwing in a few BJ's when asked. If it weren't for US support during and especially after the war, Europe would be a collection of 3rd world countries.[/QUOTE]Here you go showing your ignorance again, not all European countries are part of NATO and more importantly no one needs or have asked the US to have such a inflated and irresponsible military spending. You should be ashamed to even bring that up considering that US military spending is the root of so much misery in the Middle East as well as in Europe.

The rest of the world would be so much better off if the US didn't even exist. You should apologize for even existing. Pay the money you owe for taking care of the mess you caused us in the Middle East and then go ahead and nuke yourselves.