Jakarta

[QUOTE=Safado70;3034326]What makes you think that? Just their sheer number? You cannot blame them for that.[/QUOTE]This is a bit of a rookie question (no offense). Look at the philippines or thailand, Cambodia etc. . Chinese, Korean and Japanese are known to drive prices up since they have a very different way of approaching mongering than lets say Europeans (fewer leave days from work + cheaper flights for instance result in them using the same budget for much fewer days aka 1 week millionairs etc. However its not exclusive to east asian customers to overpay, americans also do so often because they think its such an amazing deal to have sex with someone and pay 6 months of local rent for that).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3032967]Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.[/QUOTE]These Seeking prices are for ST? I will never understand why one would pay the price of 5 pussies for 1.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;3031803]Train track royal.

Exactly what I needed after a long break from international travel. I feel totally relaxed. Casually filling up 30+ prosys in mostly royal gedong panjang.

Two in classic, one in kota and 3 in lokasari. Which in everyway IMO are simply inferior. Checked most other popular places as well, like malio, travel, raja mas, all classic floors etc. And honestly I could have done without them. Who needs a godforsaken mami or management drilling them to insist on wrapper or upcharge for that. F that.

Sadly big parts of royal were demolished, the hallway of bareback heaven is gone and replaced with a stupid park which made me sigh a lot and honestly was close to shedding tears. What kind of man or men would devalue such a paradise.

Better lighting, music, estimated capacity for 200 more pale white prosys. History. Just why.

If theres similar places to royal ID love to check them out.

Pasar pisang?

Manggarai station?

Cilincing? The place with the ducks LOL.

Tanahabang station?

I don't have one exact pin of them and would greatly appreciate that.[/QUOTE]Please do you have some more information on Royale? Where on google maps do I look for it and what time is it best to go there? (I prefer to go earlier if possible) how much are the going rates for BBFS 1 hour?

[QUOTE=Argo1990;3034341]Please do you have some more information on Royale? Where on google maps do I look for it and what time is it best to go there? (I prefer to go earlier if possible) how much are the going rates for BBFS 1 hour?[/QUOTE]You are too late. Read report #21588.

Royale is history.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;3034339]These Seeking prices are for ST? I will never understand why one would pay the price of 5 pussies for 1.[/QUOTE]If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs.

Again I know this isn't for everyone and if just want to fuck a pretty girl you can do it for a lot less. But if you want a "girlfriend" for the evening or overnight or a trip, Seeking has delivered time and time again.

That said I will also go to Classic and Emporium. The girl buffet has its allures.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;3034334]This is a bit of a rookie question (no offense). Look at the philippines or thailand, Cambodia etc. . Chinese, Korean and Japanese are known to drive prices up since they have a very different way of approaching mongering than lets say Europeans (fewer leave days from work + cheaper flights for instance result in them using the same budget for much fewer days aka 1 week millionairs etc. However its not exclusive to east asian customers to overpay, americans also do so often because they think its such an amazing deal to have sex with someone and pay 6 months of local rent for that).[/QUOTE]Just because Koreans in Thailand do something doesn't mean Taiwanese guys in Jakarta do the same thing. I have heard that Taiwanese guys in Jakarta are stingy, usually tipping very little.

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3034315]Last I checked it was 365 and 500 k right?

Did 365 change to 375, not a big difference but just checking.[/QUOTE]No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.

[QUOTE=Joes22;3034293]Have you been to T1? It's strange, but little is said about T1. It's not bad, though, and a bit quieter than 2 and 3. I've been there a few times. The rooms are very nice, and the women were nice too. The mamasan usually ignore you and only come when you want them to. Which is a bit strange and might keep foreigners away. A local pays 400, a foreigner 600.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of T1. Am I correct to presume it is on Floor 1?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3034361]If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs..[/QUOTE]I have also used SA in a similar manner. I enjoy meeting a local "civvie that needs economic supplementation" who hangs out, introduces me to her culture, and plays the part of a GF. For a single guy like me who has no interest in serious dating, this business model is fantastic. I don't need to fuck all the time. When you have a job that brings fucking stress nearly 24/7, there is a satisfying feeling to lay naked with a girl 40 years my junior and just chill to music while stroking her fine, silky smooth ass.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;3034376]No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.[/QUOTE]You're probably right.

Not a big deal because 365 versus 375 is US $0.31, however, its beneficial to have accurate info here.

When you pay 365 at classic the girl receives 100 (about US $6). If you opt for a 3-some, its an additional 135 (about US $8). Think about that. You are paying US $8 for a second girl.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3034368]Just because Koreans in Thailand do something doesn't mean Taiwanese guys in Jakarta do the same thing. I have heard that Taiwanese guys in Jakarta are stingy, usually tipping very little.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself obviously I was talking about Koreans, Chinese and Japanese specifically. Not Taiwanese. However now that you mentioned it. I know a very beautiful Thai girl (used to work in an agogo) that now is working in a brothel in Taiwan and she is making lots of dough over there. Not to generalize of course but this tells me that there is demand in Taiwan and they willing to pay a premium as well.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3034361]If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs.

Again I know this isn't for everyone and if just want to fuck a pretty girl you can do it for a lot less. But if you want a "girlfriend" for the evening or overnight or a trip, Seeking has delivered time and time again.

That said I will also go to Classic and Emporium. The girl buffet has its allures.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insights. I booted up Seeking a few times before but in other countries and it was essentially mostly escorts. At escort prices. I never bothered again. Might check it out in Jakarta.

- As for Emporium you mentioned 4-5 hours for ST that seems much better than what I had read on the venue previously (60 mins? Can you or others elaborate on a typical Emporium visit?

You get to spend some time before the sex with the girl in the spa / pool area or what do these 4-5 hours usually entail? And how hands on can you get with the girl? Making out? Sucking on nipples, fingering etc?

[QUOTE=Argo1990;3034414] As for Emporium you mentioned 4-5 hours for ST that seems much better than what I had read on the venue previously (60 mins? Can you or others elaborate on a typical Emporium visit?

You get to spend some time before the sex with the girl in the spa / pool area or what do these 4-5 hours usually entail? And how hands on can you get with the girl? Making out? Sucking on nipples, fingering etc?[/QUOTE]Brother you can follow Steve's lead for SA.

Emporium rates mentioned are for 1. 5 hours only, in that you get half hour in the pool with the girl, there is a steam room, there is a cold water pool also (infrastructure is top notch for a premium experience), I had forgotten about the girl once I separated from her for the steam room lol, in the pool lot of shenanigans can be done but it depends on the girl and how much she allows, most will sit on your lap allow fingering through the swimsuit etc, show you their tits in a way others can't see it, might engage in a small kiss etc, but there are other people around the pool as well so limitations apply. After the pool like I said you can take steam, use the cold pool (almost like ice bath), the normal pool is warm / hot water pool, which I felt a little weird because I am used to the regular swimming pools. It is also very steep, so you need to mind your step while getting in (high chance of slip and fall).

Post above routine you take a shower (solo), then proceed to the room, there is a shower in the room also, girl takes shower first, mouth wash etc are available in room along with bottled water and any beer/drinks that you may have bought at the pool counter.

Then the actual dance in the room for 1 hour, some girls might try to rush you through that, you also need to pay a mandatory 300 k tip to the girl (directly), and on your way out cost of the locker for your phone along with 1.8m for the overall experience, etc while checking out, so ther overall cost goes well above the 2 m mark for this overall experience (1. 5 hrs). It is well worth a try at least once.

Girl quantity is limited, David (papasan) over there is the go to guy for recommendations, but you choose who you like. BTW girl pools are also separate cost wise (not big difference but there was some difference, my memory is a bit fuzzy on that right now).

You should take at least 2. 5 m while going into Emporium + more if you order snacks and drinks.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;3034376]No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.[/QUOTE]Ok, Thank you for the update.

They always waived off the 5 k on all my visits there, Classic aims to please and doesn't fail at that, unless it gets too crowded, this when the waitresses and mamas may not give you their attention.

Alert!!: Everyone I just received a youtube link from one of my Discord friends, where there is this guy 'Cryptcat' who has sneakily recorded vids of Classic, Travel and several other prominent mong joints, 10-15 min vids, so request everyone to conceal your face, you can never be sure who is recording stuff, I think Classic, Travel and other places should also keep Phones in lockers like Empo to avoid this. I had noticed a guy recording me and my girl in one of the KI bars as well, I quickly informed the mama and switched from my table to other side of the room.

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3034422]Alert!!: Everyone I just received a youtube link from one of my Discord friends, where there is this guy 'Cryptcat' who has sneakily recorded vids of Classic, Travel and several other prominent mong joints, 10-15 min vids, so request everyone to conceal your face, you can never be sure who is recording stuff, [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM0xeVsU0s[/URL]

Is this Classic T2?
And is this the kind of 'quality' that I can expect to see there? Rather disappointing, I must say. I saw only a few doable girls in this vid.