Manila

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3058807]
Girl 2: Met at the mall. Photos made her out to be an 8. In real life she was probably a 6. 5. But had a horrible attitude. When we finally got to talking about money, she wanted 10 k, I told her I would give her 5 k, she came back with 7 k. I told her I would think about it. Nothing ever happened with her. She messaged me a few months ago wanting to meet up, but I wasn't in Manila at the time.

Girl 3: Met at mall. She was a really strong 7. 5 close to an 8. Looks better in person than fotos. Great personality. First date, we just went out to eat, and she left without any further action, but we promised to meet again another day. Later, we talked about money, she started out at 12 k. We settled at 8 k. We ended up meeting 2 more times at the 8 k rate. I did take her out to eat each time and ended up back at the hotel for some great FS. She was fantastic in bed. All positions. All holes.[/QUOTE]Never thought of the Philippines as a top-tier mongering spot, especially with these mental prices. It's basically on par with Aussie short-time rates, except the birds in Oz are way more mechanical. That's why I usually stick to other spots.

Reading the forums, it's clear that if you aren't going straight P4P, you've got to put in the hard yards and actually "court" them. The good old days are dead; the scene is full of greedy girls just looking to bleed you dry.

What's the actual damage for P4 P in the PH right now? I reckon the provinces are cheaper, but I'm guessing you still have to put in the legwork and chat them up just to get them to sit on your bick. Is it worth the try?

[QUOTE=SGK45;3058830]Never thought of the Philippines as a top-tier mongering spot, especially with these mental prices. It's basically on par with Aussie short-time rates, except the birds in Oz are way more mechanical. That's why I usually stick to other spots.

Reading the forums, it's clear that if you aren't going straight P4P, you've got to put in the hard yards and actually "court" them. The good old days are dead; the scene is full of greedy girls just looking to bleed you dry.

What's the actual damage for P4 P in the PH right now? I reckon the provinces are cheaper, but I'm guessing you still have to put in the legwork and chat them up just to get them to sit on your bick. Is it worth the try?[/QUOTE]PH is such a shit country and I don't think that is ever going to change. The have the worst airport, the worst infrastructure. The most expensive hotels for what you get. The food is crap. I'm not a beach guy, so don't give a damn about that. The only thing they have going for them is their large relatively young english speaking population. Everything you can get cheaper and better in TH, but sadly they don't speak english there. Last time I was there I just stayed in BGC and didn't move around much so I was relatively insulated from the crap that is manila.

The girls though tend to be more GFE than TH, which is what gets me coming back. Theres plenty of gems.

Regarding damage for P4 P, I see some of the old timers saying that they get girls for 3 k ST and 5 k LT, but I think for the non desperate girls you're going to have to pay more than that.

Manila Courtesans is a pretty good baseline. The girls there are charging 6 k to 8 k for 2 hours. Thats ST. Subtract the agency fee which is probably 2 k, and going rate is probably 4 k to 6 k for short time.

These are normal girls. None of the MC girls are spectacularly gorgeous. They are normal slim girls. Dime a dozen. I would rate most of them between a 6 and a 7.

Adjust prices for better looking girls and that's the scene.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3058901]PH is such a shit country and I don't think that is ever going to change. The have the worst airport, the worst infrastructure. The most expensive hotels for what you get. The food is crap. I'm not a beach guy, so don't give a damn about that. The only thing they have going for them is their large relatively young english speaking population. Everything you can get cheaper and better in TH, but sadly they don't speak english there. Last time I was there I just stayed in BGC and didn't move around much so I was relatively insulated from the crap that is manila.

The girls though tend to be more GFE than TH, which is what gets me coming back. Theres plenty of gems.

Regarding damage for P4 P, I see some of the old timers saying that they get girls for 3 k ST and 5 k LT, but I think for the non desperate girls you're going to have to pay more than that.

Manila Courtesans is a pretty good baseline..[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you say. Except for the girls, everything else about the PI is below average. But it is true that the girls are very sweet and they speak English so that overcomes everything else about the PI. Still after a while, the most parts about the PI still gets to me. I know that a lot of guys say the PI is great but you do have to balance all the other things and I don't think you can just ignore the food, housing, infrastructure, and medical care.

Great report Kazeu, I do agree with you on the most part of the pricing (MC. I did quite bit of sourcing through them), except that you could also get girls under 4 k through other means. Even though I am not seasoned monger in PH, been there only couple of times when I got the girls through DIA / PL I was able to source the girls under 4 K. And they were decent looking girls, only issue is you need to skim through the sites to short list, it takes time. I felt like MC was like instant gratification with putting much effort, and I enjoyed MC girls as well.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3058901]PH is such a shit country and I don't think that is ever going to change. The have the worst airport, the worst infrastructure. The most expensive hotels for what you get. The food is crap. I'm not a beach guy, so don't give a damn about that. The only thing they have going for them is their large relatively young english speaking population. Everything you can get cheaper and better in TH, but sadly they don't speak english there. Last time I was there I just stayed in BGC and didn't move around much so I was relatively insulated from the crap that is manila.

The girls though tend to be more GFE than TH, which is what gets me coming back. Theres plenty of gems.

Regarding damage for P4 P, I see some of the old timers saying that they get girls for 3 k ST and 5 k LT, but I think for the non desperate girls you're going to have to pay more than that.

Manila Courtesans is a pretty good baseline. The girls there are charging 6 k to 8 k for 2 hours. Thats ST. Subtract the agency fee which is probably 2 k, and going rate is probably 4 k to 6 k for short time.

These are normal girls. None of the MC girls are spectacularly gorgeous. They are normal slim girls. Dime a dozen. I would rate most of them between a 6 and a 7.

Adjust prices for better looking girls and that's the scene.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SGK45;3058830]Never thought of the Philippines as a top-tier mongering spot, especially with these mental prices..

Reading the forums, it's clear that if you aren't going straight P4P, you've got to put in the hard yards and actually "court" them. The good old days are dead; the scene is full of greedy girls just looking to bleed you dry.

What's the actual damage for P4 P in the PH right now? I reckon the provinces are cheaper, but I'm guessing you still have to put in the legwork and chat them up just to get them to sit on your bick. Is it worth the try?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3058901]PH is such a shit country and I don't think that is ever going to change. The have the worst airport, the worst infrastructure. The most expensive hotels for what you get. The food is crap. I'm not a beach guy, so don't give a damn about that. The only thing they have going for them is their large relatively young english speaking population. Everything you can get cheaper and better in TH, but sadly they don't speak english there. Last time I was there I just stayed in BGC and didn't move around much so I was relatively insulated from the crap that is manila.

The girls though tend to be more GFE than TH, which is what gets me coming back. Theres plenty of gems.

Regarding damage for P4 P, I see some of the old timers saying that they get girls for 3 k ST and 5 k LT, but I think for the non desperate girls you're going to have to pay more than that.

Manila Courtesans is a pretty good baseline. The girls there are charging 6 k to 8 k for 2 hours. Thats ST. Subtract the agency fee which is probably 2 k, and going rate is probably 4 k to 6 k for short time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3058913]Great report Kazeu, I do agree with you on the most part of the pricing (MC. I did quite bit of sourcing through them), except that you could also get girls under 4 k through other means. Even though I am not seasoned monger in PH, been there only couple of times when I got the girls through DIA / PL I was able to source the girls under 4 K. And they were decent looking girls, only issue is you need to skim through the sites to short list, it takes time. I felt like MC was like instant gratification with putting much effort, and I enjoyed MC girls as well.[/QUOTE]There isn't one size fits all in the Philippines so it's dangerous to give one label and expect it to cover all the girls and locations.

I'd agree that some prices are indeed "mental". Especially when we consider what's included. There are bars on Burgos charging 10 k+ just for the barfine and girls are expecting a similar amount for their time on top. Online, it's not unusual for a hottie to only do ST and give quotes of 15 k.

The provinces are certainly cheaper when cinsidering like for like. However, I'm not at all surprised more guys don't go there: it's often more difficult just to get there; there may be far less non mongering activities to occupy the other 23 hours in the day and; it can take time and effort to find where to stay, available girls, where to eat etc. Many areas also have a reputation for being dangerous or unwelcoming. The provinces aren't point and shoot for a first time visitor.

The actual damage varies. It varies a lot. I pay 10 k on Burgos, 5 k online in Manila and 2 k in the provinces. They are all for LT. Looks vs skills? She could be 32 and rock my world or she could be 19, gorgeous and still learning how to use her body.

I haven't found that it's a straight line correlation between price and looks or attitude. If anything I've found the more I pay, the less I get. It's not at all unusual for a girl offer an afternoons fun simply because she wants to "learn to fuck a foreigner". Similarly, we have all had high priced girls develop an attitude the moment they enter the room and find a urgent need to leave ASAP.

Courtesans, Smooci, Burgos are all designed for guys who are time poor but cash rich. There is a premium charged for ease and convenience and there are many guys who find this a fair trade. Equally, there are guys who wouldn't dream of paying 8 k for a ST. However, they have the time or contacts so that it's not required.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3058932]There isn't one size fits all in the Philippines so it's dangerous to give one label and expect it to cover all the girls and locations.

I'd agree that some prices are indeed "mental". Especially when we consider what's included. There are bars on Burgos charging 10 k+ just for the barfine and girls are expecting a similar amount for their time on top. Online, it's not unusual for a hottie to only do ST and give quotes of 15 k.

The provinces are certainly cheaper when cinsidering like for like. However, I'm not at all surprised more guys don't go there: it's often more difficult just to get there; there may be far less non mongering activities to occupy the other 23 hours in the day and; it can take time and effort to find where to stay, available girls, where to eat etc. Many areas also have a reputation for being dangerous or unwelcoming. The provinces aren't point and shoot for a first time visitor.

The actual damage varies. It varies a lot. I pay 10 k on Burgos, 5 k online in Manila and 2 k in the provinces. They are all for LT. Looks vs skills? She could be 32 and rock my world or she could be 19, gorgeous and still learning how to use her body.[/QUOTE]I am not clueless about these women—I believe you know your territory. I had my fair share of pinay, and these women are extremely horny and can go on all day, up until your balls go dry; they spoilt me. But somehow, these women change a lot when they come to Australia—they fatten up like pigs. As with any western country, Australia spoils these women with money and all the so-called empowerment laws. One of my mates even had his super and life savings stolen by a pinay. They are definitely not as innocent as they appear, and their female groups can be extremely toxic. I remember a hospital pinay cleaner group I knew: they started extremely friendly, then began flexing about their husbands, and eventually ended up as a hateful bunch. Somehow, these white knights wife these women and keep bringing them into Australia—god knows why.

My problem is not having enough time to put up with their bullshit. I agree with the fact that the more you pay, the service gets shitty. It's not something unique to PH; it's the case everywhere—the more time they spend in the industry, the more demanding they become, and their service goes to shit. Somehow, we have desperate guys paying whatever just to get laid, and that has ruined the whole industry. And YouTubers are luring these losers into mongering places where we once used to thrive—social media is an outright curse. I strongly believe this industry is a basic need like food and sleep so there shouldn't be any unrealistic price hikes.

Apart from that, I am an LT guy who likes it raw. I have checked two provincial areas in the forum, as I RTFF because I don't want to pay top dollar. Definitely not into bar girls—only into FL-type girls or normal girls who need extra cash. I would appreciate if you can tell me, where in PH do you recommend? What is your strategy? Where do you find them the most? So I can plan things ahead. You are more than welcome to get into my inbox if you feel like not sharing it publicly. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3058932]There isn't one size fits all in the Philippines so it's dangerous to give one label and expect it to cover all the girls and locations.

I'd agree that some prices are indeed "mental". Especially when we consider what's included.

Courtesans, Smooci, Burgos are all designed for guys who are time poor but cash rich. There is a premium charged for ease and convenience and there are many guys who find this a fair trade. Equally, there are guys who wouldn't dream of paying 8 k for a ST. However, they have the time or contacts so that it's not required.[/QUOTE]Makes sense G.

Thankfully I'm well travelled and would never dream of paying top-shelf in a bar for ST.

For first time, two week warriors, it's an easy fix and could be a blast.

For the new guys, Pina's a great tool in MNL to get freelancers at a great rate for an all-nighter, therefore dodging the agencies. Average price has been 3 k recently.

Sure, the Phil's isn't Thailand and has never pretended to be.

Working girls are all out to make as much as they can, which is understandable. But in the Phils, the interaction seems to be easier with almost everyone speaking English.

Negotiations are therefore a lot easier.

My approach has always been it's a long term plan. I can return from one trip with ten contacts, and then return from other trips with none.

It might just be me, but I like the challenge, the chase and the unknown many times.

But I'll never pay a ST barfine at today's rates and all the extras. You can get that at home.

Especially after finding so many better options over time with FL's.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=SGK45;3059009]I am not clueless about these womenI believe you know your territory. I had my fair share of pinay, and these women are extremely horny and can go on all day, up until your balls go dry; they spoilt me. But somehow, these women change a lot when they come to Australiathey fatten up like pigs. As with any western country, Australia spoils these women with money and all the so-called empowerment laws. One of my mates even had his super and life savings stolen by a pinay. They are definitely not as innocent as they appear, and their female groups can be extremely toxic. I remember a hospital pinay cleaner group I knew: they started extremely friendly, then began flexing about their husbands, and eventually ended up as a hateful bunch. Somehow, these white knights wife these women and keep bringing them into Australiagod knows why.

My problem is not having enough time to put up with their bullshit. I agree with the fact that the more you pay, the service gets shitty. It's not something unique to PH; it's the case everywherethe more time they spend in the industry, the more demanding they become, and their service goes to shit. Somehow, we have desperate guys paying whatever just to get laid, and that has ruined the whole industry. And YouTubers are luring these losers into mongering places where we once used to thrivesocial media is an outright curse. I strongly believe this industry is a basic need like food and sleep so there shouldn't be any unrealistic price hikes.

Apart from that, I am an LT guy who likes it raw. I have checked two provincial areas in the forum, as I RTFF because I don't want to pay top dollar. Definitely not into bar girlsonly into FL-type girls or normal girls who need extra cash. I would appreciate if you can tell me, where in PH do you recommend? What is your strategy? Where do you find them the most? So I can plan things ahead. You are more than welcome to get into my inbox if you feel like not sharing it publicly. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Everybody knows that you don't suppose to take a filipina out of the Philippines, but some guys don't want to listen, including me. Mine wasn't a filipina, and the experience wasn't that bad, but it ended just in time when she started to slightly degrade as she reached the age limit (30).

The main problem that I see with the pinas is that they're becoming fat in PH also, no need to be transplanted to US or AU.

AC is still a great hunting ground with immediate results if you concentrate in other areas than Red St, just need to be careful, not to linger around too late after darkness. Hunting in province is complicated and takes time, also based on my latest observations they're all getting fat, the skinny ones are scarce, or underage.

[QUOTE=SGK45;3059009]I am not clueless about these womenI believe you know your territory. I had my fair share of pinay, and these women are extremely horny and can go on all day, up until your balls go dry; they spoilt me. But somehow, these women change a lot when they come to Australiathey fatten up like pigs. As with any western country, Australia spoils these women with money and all the so-called empowerment laws. One of my mates even had his super and life savings stolen by a pinay. They are definitely not as innocent as they appear, and their female groups can be extremely toxic. I remember a hospital pinay cleaner group I knew: they started extremely friendly, then began flexing about their husbands, and eventually ended up as a hateful bunch. Somehow, these white knights wife these women and keep bringing them into Australiagod knows why.

My problem is not having enough time to put up with their bullshit. I agree with the fact that the more you pay, the service gets shitty. It's not something unique to PH; it's the case everywherethe more time they spend in the industry, the more demanding they become, and their service goes to shit. Somehow, we have desperate guys paying whatever just to get laid, and that has ruined the whole industry. And YouTubers are luring these losers into mongering places where we once used to thrivesocial media is an outright curse. I strongly believe this industry is a basic need like food and sleep so there shouldn't be any unrealistic price hikes.

Apart from that, I am an LT guy who likes it raw. I have checked two provincial areas in the forum, as I RTFF because I don't want to pay top dollar. Definitely not into bar girlsonly into FL-type girls or normal girls who need extra cash. I would appreciate if you can tell me, where in PH do you recommend? What is your strategy? Where do you find them the most? So I can plan things ahead. You are more than welcome to get into my inbox if you feel like not sharing it publicly. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's no secret that pinays are the worst aging of all the Asians. And that's regardless of if they are still in PH or have moved to the west. Yes, there are exceptions but you can't compare a group of 40 yo pinas to a similar group of thais, indos etc.

Unfortunately, when the girls arrive in the West, the first thing they do is seek out the local group of other girls from the same area. It's these groups that do the damage. Pinas regard gossip and jealousy as Olympic sports and the most news worthy stories aren't girls who married, settled down with a couple of kids and lived happily ever after. It's the stories of girls divorcing and keeping the house and bank account; the stories of trading up to a hot new guy; stories of mom and dad building a mansion after sending a bucket load of cash back home.

I know a lot of mixed marriage couples and very few last back home. I don't think it's an accident that those that do tend to be well off guys. The average guy bringing her back to a pension and a basic house is pretty much doomed. It's the same for the guys who remain in the PH. Those that use their life savings to fund her family and build her a house are quickly shown the door. Those who have a regular income stream and are worth more here than gone tend to last.

Don't get me started on the filtered life that vloggers present: he's 70 and she's 20 and it's true love; isn't it great that he's accepted her 4 kids from 3 father's; you can build a house that you will never own for only $40 k; he was a looser back home now he has a majestic lifestyle for only $600 per month. I'm not saying these never happen but assuming that's it's the norm and ever lasting is crazy.

Raw is still the norm in PI although paranoia about STDs is rising and you may be asked to show a negative test especially by girls with options.

Where is a very individual thing. Just because I like a place doesn't mean that you will. If we only include provincial areas:

Mindanao. Tall buxom girls. Lots of college towns so English is quite good. Towns can be welcoming but boring with nothing else to do. A reputation of danger which keeps a lot of foreigners away.

Lyete & Samar. Home of the tiny spinners. Some nice scenery. Point to point travel options can be limited or difficult.

Cebu (province) & Bohol. Lots of beautiful beaches both quiet and popular. Girls familiar with foreigners. Ferry suck so transport can be onerous and time consuming.

Special mentions:

Dumaguete. Soft landing from are newbies with lots of western conveniences & girls very familiar with foreigners. Has many different things to do.

Subic. Decades of history servicing foreigners. Boring bar scene but civilians happy to bus in from all over Zambales to meet. Western food.

My strategy? Simple. Have no strategy. Be flexible and quick to respond to opportunities. If I like a place, then I stay. If I don't, I move on. I book accommodation three days then extend or move as needed. Many times I have woken up, been over a place and decided to move on there and then. Having said that, time is required. The provinces generally are not point and shoot. It's not a good place for a 6 cites in 7 days holiday. One of my best was doing two laps. The first quickly to get a sense of if I liked a place and get contacts. Then a second lap more slowly returning to the paces I liked. By then I also had numbers, knew nice replaces to stay, had other things to do during the day or night etc.

I'm sourcing 90% online. Mostly the hook up aps. However, I'm also open to meeting organically when out and about or at the mall. Occasionally I'll get a call from friends and family who needs a cash top up. Random messages from strangers are not unusual. Just ask for unfiltered photos or a video chat first to confirm.

I should emphasise that I'm no oil painting so I very much doubt that's the attraction. However, I do make a point of being respectful, truthful and generous regardless of the girls situation in life. I certainly don't feed the girls a line of BS just to bed them. I've found that both not required and actually counter productive.

Apologies for the long winded post.

G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3059091]

AC is still a great hunting ground with immediate results[/QUOTE]I really enjoy the provinces but I agree that they aren't suitable for guys looking for quick results. It's a month minimum. Preferably two. I find a stay for a 59 day visa ideal.

For those with a sense of urgency, then it's the expat bubbles: AC and Cebu and, of course, why even leave Manila. All have thousands of girls. You're going to pay for it but they are in town and available now.

G.

[QUOTE=SGK45;3059009]Somehow, these white knights wife these women and keep bringing them into Australiagod knows why.
[/QUOTE]The problem is that pinas are expert at moulding themselves to become what ever the guy is looking for. Some guys want a tongue up their ass and their minds blown and they can do that. Others have been so beaten down at home that they just want some affection and to be listened to. Equally pinas can offer world class GFE.

That's great until it's not when guys are suddenly sending cash and building houses just to keep the dream alive.

G.

[QUOTE=SGK45;3059009]I am not clueless about these womenI believe you know your territory. I had my fair share of pinay, and these women are extremely horny and can go on all day, up until your balls go dry; they spoilt me. But somehow, these women change a lot when they come to Australiathey fatten up like pigs. As with any western country, Australia spoils these women with money and all the so-called empowerment laws. One of my mates even had his super and life savings stolen by a pinay. They are definitely not as innocent as they appear, and their female groups can be extremely toxic. I remember a hospital pinay cleaner group I knew: they started extremely friendly, then began flexing about their husbands, and eventually ended up as a hateful bunch. Somehow, these white knights wife these women and keep bringing them into Australiagod knows why.

My problem is not having enough time to put up with their bullshit. I agree with the fact that the more you pay, the service gets shitty..[/QUOTE]When you take them back to Australia or the USA, they suddenly have access to as much fast food and snacks as they can stuff their guts with. It is not unusual for them to gain 50 lbs to 100 lbs and develop a flat wide ass. I know of a case where a fella tried in vain to slow the rapid widening of his new Pinay bride's ass by placing a padlock on the refrigerator. It was pointless, she simply got online when he went to work and got other desperate fellas to bring her fast-food combos. There are many sex-starved white knights who would leap at such an opportunity in the hopes of getting a BBBJCIM or BBFSCIP from a rotund Pinay forced to diet by her mean husband.

Many white feminist women are waiting to teach your newly imported Pinay the way things are in your country. She will learn quickly that you have to lick her ass due to female empowerment, and if you would not, there are many other thirsty men who will. And, they will even pay more than you for the opportunity. Expat Pinay groups will teach her how to steal your super annuation and life savings. She will learn how to claim that you are an abusive old swine in divorce court for maximum leverage. Many attorneys are waiting to take her case on with no upfront fees just based on the amount they expect to fleece you for.

Many social media influencers, some Westerners and others Pinay, are pushing out propaganda convincing lonely sexless Western men that Pinays are the best wives and most loyal women in the world. All they have to do is visit a bar in Angeles City, marry one, and take her back home to live happily ever after. Many Aussie, American, and European fellas sell the family farm and hop aboard the first flight to the Philippines to find their dream girl.

Once these girls arrive abroad, they will find the Pinay groups. When they do, they will start competing to see whose pussy can catch the richest most gullible man. Then they will pipeline his money back to the family in the Philippines to build a mansion and hobby businesses to impress the neighbors.

I checked Midnight Heaven last Thursday around 6 PM, and all 15 beauties in there were old and part of the new sexy wave sweeping the PH now, for those that don't know it yet "chubby is the new sexy" in case you're interested. Nobody upstairs or in the back room, 2 poriners sitting one at the bar and the other one with the only young, but "sexy in the bar. Went back there on Friday around 8 PM, and a similar situation, but with some good looking ones in the Korean section upstairs, that don't count, because they are untouchable by poriners.

Got outside and made a round visiting the hookers by the back exit of the Robinsons mall, but nothing remarkable there eighter. There was a group of massage girls in front of the MCDee's across the street, 2 pretty ones, 1 was spitting continuosly, so I took her of the list, and I left with the other one, now that I could see her better, she was perfect, petite, perfect body, and beautiful face like Zoe Saldana's twin.

I made the bad choice to walk with her instead of getting in a trike in the back of the mall, but I wanted to have the time to prepare her for what was waiting for her back in the room, and all that's going to happened, she agreed to all of it, wanted 5 k, I said 3 K, she agreed, and it looks that she was bluffing, and probably even 2 K would had been fine in a normal 1 on 1 situation. It all looked good until she asked me about the name of the hotel, and when I mentioned Grand Riviera, her face changed, and turned back telling me that she will not go there because that tower is haunted, nonsense, but I couldn't convince her otherwise, it was like mentioning Dracula's Castle. So she ran back, passed by Midnight Heaven again, took a peek inside, nothing changed, then went back "home" empty handed, hoping that maybe the online market will produce results.

I'll be visiting soon and will write FR. For now, slightly off topic LOL. Can anyone recommend a massage place or spa for genital shaving? I don't want to get Brazilian wax because probably too painful. Or if that's a better option, then recommendations please. But ideally shave.

Also, are there any of those ASMR type female hairstylists in Manila like they do in Vietnam (haircut, facial, ear cleaning etc)? Will appreciate any recommendations.

Both in or near Makati. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Chola;3059409]I'll be visiting soon and will write FR. For now, slightly off topic LOL. Can anyone recommend a massage place or spa for genital shaving? I don't want to get Brazilian wax because probably too painful. Or if that's a better option, then recommendations please. But ideally shave.

Also, are there any of those ASMR type female hairstylists in Manila like they do in Vietnam (haircut, facial, ear cleaning etc)? Will appreciate any recommendations.

Both in or near Makati. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Shaving?? On your cock and nutsack?? Fuck that.

PI barbers use cut throat razors. They have replaceable blades but they use the cheapest and dullest available.

That's a DIY job with the best blades you can buy or go the waxing route.

Most waxing studios cater for men now. You might have to book to get the girl who is happy to handle a random guy's tackle but someone will do it.

Best to tell her you are a first timer so she doesn't rip off huge tracts each time.

And no you can't ask her to see if your dick still works post clean up. 😜.

G.

I forgot: some massage places offer candling etc but there are no extras.