So you want to talk Taxation with The Cmdr
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]Poor people will always benefit from the taxation system.[/QUOTE]Explain the reasoning behind your opinion. Facts and data are always helpful.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]If the taxes are too high or to low for people of a certain income bracket is another question.[/QUOTE]If the government of the Dis United States of America prints the money, why do they need to collect taxes in the first place? Why doesn't the government of the Dis United States of America just print the money it needs instead of stealing mine?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]But it seems a bit sanctimonious to cash in your welfare checks while complaining over how the "rich" aren't giving you enough of their money.[/QUOTE]I guess you are speaking from experience. Because I don't know nothing about the particular experience that you referencing. Who cashes checks anymore these days?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076335]Let's talk Bonds.
Bonds are for people who have already made money and are simply looking to collect rent and preserve their capital. Let's say I want to generate 10,000 a month income in order to retire to Thailand, because I am a ungrateful crybaby who has given nothing back to my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America. That would make me a Rich, Racist Republican.
[U]Generating $10,000 per month (or $120,000 per year) in income using only US Treasury bonds[/U] requires a principal investment of approximately $2. 53 million to $2. 54 million, depending on the bond yield. Based on recent rates cited in March 2025, where 20-year T-bonds offered 4. 750% and 30-year T-bonds offered 4. 625%, the required capital is calculated as follows:
At 4.750% yield: You need $2,526,316 invested to generate $120,000 annually.
At 4.625% yield: You need $2,594,595 invested to generate $120,000 annually.[/QUOTE]The welfare payments you receive. [B]I fund them[/B]. I am taxed on my worldwide income as a citizen of the Dis United States of America no matter where I am posted up in the world. If you are living in the Dis United States of America you are living on my tax dollars that I get zero benefit from but still pay. [B]Put that in your pipe and smoke it![/B]!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]With that said it's hard to deny that there are some extremely rich people in the US.[/QUOTE]This is a understatement my man. Check out this article.
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-wealth-gap-widest-in-three-decades-federal-reserve/[/URL]
Wealth inequality in the United States has reached its widest gap in more than three decades, with the top 1% of households holding 31.7% of all USA Wealth as of the third quarter of 2025. This concentration amounts to approximately $55 trillion, roughly equal to the combined wealth of the bottom 90% of Americans.
[B]Check Ball![/B]
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Trump's typically crap Repub economic policy results continue
Didn't Trump just call credible news sources "fake news" for asking him questions about his typically crap Repub policy economic results that he would much rather they describe as "The Greatest Ecomomy Ever, as everybody knows, especially his greatest ever jobs creation"?
LOL. Trump just gave himself an [B]A+[/B] on his economy.
Uh.
Well, I suppose since he has yet to plunge America into the second Recession of his presidency, his economic grade might very well be an [B]A+[/B] compared to most other Repub so-called presidents. But certainly not compared to any ordinary Dem President of at least the past 100 years, especially Joe Biden.
The only question about Repub Trump's economy and jobs numbers is whether or not Repub Donald J. Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his economic policies and stewardship having failed to create so much as one single net gain private-sector job compared to when he first took office or will it be a net loss of about a million private-sector jobs or will it be a loss of many, many more than a million private-sector jobs.
[B]U.S. economy unexpectedly lost 23,000 jobs in July.
July 7, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/07/jobs-report-july-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Nonfarm payrolls fell by a seasonally adjusted 23,000 for the month, compared with a downwardly revised 20,000 for June. The Dow Jones consensus forecast had been looking for a gain of 83,000.
At the same time, the unemployment slipped to 4.1% as the labor force participation rate fell further to 61.4%, its lowest in more than five years, another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.
In addition to the weak numbers for June and July, the final count for May was revised down to 63,000, or 66,000 lower than the prior estimate. The revised numbers brought the 12-month average down to just 34,000.[/QUOTE]Imagine how bad the reported numbers would be if the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics' employees hadn't been threatened with getting fired and losing their jobs in this typically horrific Repub economy jobs market if they didn't report better numbers than Trump's classic Repub policies were actually producing.
Electrostate-Sailing Uma vs. Petrostate-RV Elvis 2008
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078719]I have paid $5000 for Lithium batteries to run the AC. I plugged in the AC unit from the 12 volt, 15 AMP outlet on the power station and the AC would not even come on.
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2026 is not the year of the battery not even fucking close. I paid $5000 for batteries and I am not sure how or when I am going to use them. The generators work so much better, and it is not close.[/QUOTE]I wasn't quite sure what Elvis 2008's latest round of fossil fuel woes are, trying to solve powering his RV air conditioner, heater and appliances, (last I checked you were getting free gas propane, but only in certain parts of Texas). But I'm sure you still realize the sun is also free and shines freely in all 50 states.
But [NOPARSE]alas, there maybe no getting over "renewable intermittency syndrome"...but thanks for the latest [/NOPARSE]update! [I]Again, no shame in using diesel generators to solve your RV problems,[/I] if that solution fits the bill.
[B]Meanwhile,[/B] for [NOPARSE]those who can figure out how to use and implement battery tech successfully, and have embraced solar panels on their recreational vehicles or small boats, will be going without shore power for days on end...if needing it at [/NOPARSE]all.
Take YouTubers from the channel, Sailing Uma, are just finishing up their 18 month rebuild of their small sailing boat and in episodes 490 to 492, they've managed to outfit and install a massive 3. 6 kW solar array (on the deck, dodger and haul), along with a installed 50 kWh Li-ion battery bank, all on their tiny 36-foot sailboat. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRr0lfPSanI[/URL].
[U]NO diesel backup generator needed[/U], just good ol' wind in your sails, sunshine in your solar panels and free clean renewable energy in your Li-ion batteries.
The point of this post, is to show that clean electrotech is advancing to solve your recreational needs, if you're willing to take off the fossil fuel shackles and blinders.
2026 The Year of the Battery [I](...for some...LOL!)[/I]
Electrostate vs. Petrostate: Is this the end for Gas-Peaker Plants, in Texas et al?
A Texas startup called Base Power, has introduced surprisingly new battery payment scheme and a cleaver adaptive way of selling energy / power, back to the grid, in what some pundits say, could signal the end for gas-peaker plants.
Base Power (TX), is offering a up to a 78.4 kWh home backup battery (roughly three times the capacity of a standard Tesla Powerwall 3), for for a tiny upfront cost of $95 to $695, plus a $19 monthly fee. The system pays for itself by allowing the company to sell excess stored energy back to the grid, giving homeowners affordable multi-day outage protection.
[B][i]Electrek[/i] - Base Power raises $1B to roll out its giant new home battery,[/B] Aug 4th, 2026. Base Power has just unveiled Core, a supersized 39.2-kWh home battery that it says can keep a house running for up to 36 hours and be installed in under an hour. [URL]https://electrek.co/2026/08/03/base-power-raises-1b-to-roll-out-its-giant-new-home-battery/[/URL].
According to Base Power, they genuinely see the home battery, [B]not as a solar accessory, but instead as [u]grid infrastructure,[/u][/B] saving the home owners 20% or more on their power bills. Great idea, although very puzzling, as to why investors, are valuing the company at US $13 billion dollars.
2026 the Year of the Battery.
Here you go Mr Tokyo Rose / Mr want to Be 5th Column listen and learn
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078778]Didn't Trump just call credible news sources "fake news" for asking him questions about his typically crap Repub policy economic results that he would much rather they describe as "The Greatest Ecomomy Ever, as everybody knows, especially his greatest ever jobs creation"?
LOL. Trump just gave himself an [B]A+[/B] on his economy.
Uh.
Well, I suppose since he has yet to plunge America into the second Recession of his presidency, his economic grade might very well be an [B]A+[/B] compared to most other Repub so-called presidents. But certainly not compared to any ordinary Dem President of at least the past 100 years, especially Joe Biden.
The only question about Repub Trump's economy and jobs numbers is whether or not Repub Donald J. Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his economic policies and stewardship having failed to create so much as one single net gain private-sector job compared to when he first took office or will it be a net loss of about a million private-sector jobs or will it be a loss of many, many more than a million private-sector jobs.
[B]U.S. economy unexpectedly lost 23,000 jobs in July.
July 7, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/07/jobs-report-july-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
Imagine how bad the reported numbers would be if the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics' employees hadn't been threatened with getting fired and losing their jobs in this typically horrific Repub economy jobs market if they didn't report better numbers than Trump's classic Repub policies were actually producing.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9NWtQ0OWQ[/URL]
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No need to stay on topic after your quotes I see
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3078855][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9NWtQ0OWQ[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyone who references MAGA Bill Maher's Trump Cult Weekly Repub Campaign Rally spin as a premise to prove a point is a bigger ill-informed numbskull than he is.
LOL. He still has no idea that school kids can indeed carry the Trump's Pandemic virus even if they were not the ones getting seriously ill or dying from it, can spread it to each other in crowded school rooms, carry it back to their parents and grandparents, who could then carry it to their friends and so on. That's why school closures were an important mitigating measure to prevent hundreds of thousands more cases of it, filling more hospitals, monopolizing more medical staff and facilities, producing more deaths from Trump's Pandemic.
And I heard on his latest show he was touting how much better Florida handled it than Blue states like California in his ongoing mission to help his beloved Repubs win elections whenever and wherever possible.
Uh. Nope-a-Dope, MAGA Bill:
[B]California vs. Florida: The surprising answer to which handled COVID better.
Nov. 27, 2023[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-vs-florida-surprising-answer-110015103.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]But in raw terms, significantly more Floridians died on a per capita basis during the COVID-19 emergency than Californians. Of the four most-populous states, California had the lowest cumulative COVID death rate: 2,560 for every 1 million residents. Florida's rate was 60% worse, with 4,044 COVID fatalities for every 1 million residents, according to a Times analysis of Johns Hopkins University data through early March, when the university ended its data tracking.[/QUOTE]BTW, got any response to my post about Trump's typically crap Repub economic and jobs creation result during his "Golden Age Economy" that you quoted here?