[QUOTE=Christopherd;1605618]The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]The whole description you just gave in the last post about getting off metro, walking 50 yds, and the whole bit. That's what I just did today. Where you following me, LOL!
