[QUOTE=Questner;2819177]One thing is to take court to the circus and another completely is to bring circus into the court.[/QUOTE]Why don't you bring Putler to court, he has an open invitation from the ICC?
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[QUOTE=Questner;2819177]One thing is to take court to the circus and another completely is to bring circus into the court.[/QUOTE]Why don't you bring Putler to court, he has an open invitation from the ICC?
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2818887]You are one crazy dude. Join me in MTY next weekend. Maybe you can take a break from watching CNN, going out in public might do you some good.
Moscow was my favorite city in the world pre-Covid, it was an amazing place. Now Covid and Putin have ruined my trips. As a result, I re-discovered CDMX and MTY. I am having the best sex of my life and having wild adventures. You should try and have sone fun instead of complaining all the time and living in a fantasy world.[/QUOTE]Xpartan is back with the oft quoted Democratic douche move that you have never been to place X, something he wants to be true but is not, and this is why Xpartan is on ignore for me. Obviously, we have met in Monterrey and you have seen stunning women but Xpartan just makes shit up and is too dumb to believe any facts that do not fit the Democratic douche narrative.
Meanwhile, JM has drunk so much Kool Aid that he thinks it is possible that you can kill all these Russians and not have any dead Ukrainians as he pounds away on his keyboard on a hooker forum marshalling up support for Ukrainians being slaughtered. JM, if you are so fucking outraged, do as we have said so often before, go volunteer to fight you coward. You keep calling everyone Putin lovers where you sit on your ass watching Ukrainians die. How about you quit with the name calling and put YOUR ass on the line?
Trump had a town hall meeting on CNN, and his biggest applause line of the night was that he would stop people from dying in Ukraine. The idiotic CNN host was parroting the moronic Democratic douche line about Ukraine winning. He said he could stop the war in 24 hours and made the point that the USA had sent $170 billion in aid versus Europe's $20 billion. I have heard the Democratic douches say this is a war not just on Ukraine but Europe. Well, the European countries are not spending like it is a war on Europe.
And let's not forget that Ukraine was used to get Biden's God awful handling of Covid off the front pages. You remember that? Two years of nonstop headlines on Covid were gone from the front pages in an instant. I was actually in a country where they still had up the mask signs and social distancing and I just shake my head and ask, "How did so many people fall for this complete bullshit?" I imagine we will be asking the same about this war some day.
The Democrats lied their asses off about Putin stealing the 2016 election and their response now is he is a madman. Well, here is a great idea. Let's make up a complete lie about a madman and see what he does. If you are a Democratic douche, the 2016 lies and the Ukraine invasion have nothing to do with each other, but in actuality, it proved to Putin beyond a shadow of a doubt he could not trust the Democrats. And I have said this about these douches before but when it comes to everything but nukes, Putin is a madman. With nukes though, they want to believe he is stone cold rational.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2819585]Xpartan is back with the oft quoted Democratic douche move that you have never been to place X, something he wants to be true but is not, and this is why Xpartan is on ignore for me. Obviously, we have met in Monterrey and you have seen stunning women but Xpartan just makes shit up and is too dumb to believe any facts that do not fit the Democratic douche narrative.
Meanwhile, JM has drunk so much Kool Aid that he thinks it is possible that you can kill all these Russians and not have any dead Ukrainians as he pounds away on his keyboard on a hooker forum marshalling up support for Ukrainians being slaughtered. JM, if you are so fucking outraged, do as we have said so often before, go volunteer to fight you coward. You keep calling everyone Putin lovers where you sit on your ass watching Ukrainians die. How about you quit with the name calling and put YOUR ass on the line?
Trump had a town hall meeting on CNN, and his biggest applause line of the night was that he would stop people from dying in Ukraine. The idiotic CNN host was parroting the moronic Democratic douche line about Ukraine winning. He said he could stop the war in 24 hours and made the point that the USA had sent $170 billion in aid versus Europe's $20 billion. I have heard the Democratic douches say this is a war not just on Ukraine but Europe. Well, the European countries are not spending like it is a war on Europe..[/QUOTE]You are truly all over the fucking map with this one. Are you congenitally unable to form a coherent thought? Are you mentally incapable of constructing any kind of reasoned argument? All the evidence of your posting history suggests not!
In a single rant you whine about Xpartan, me, CNN, COVID, and the 2016 election. Wow, that probably sets a new record for rambling, congrats!
Xpartan can speak for himself, and your other ramblings are so incoherent that they wither on their own, so I'll just speak to your asinine bleatings about me.
1. About outrage, you obviously haven't read my earlier post in which I proposed a moral thought experiment. I challenge you to respond to that post and show why my feelings of moral outrage are misplaced. If you want to be a moral reprobate, that's your choice. But trying to belittle moral outrage that is completely justified does nothing but display your amorality. If karma is a thing, you might want to keep an eye out for life to deal you a personal blow that moves you to outrage. And, if and when some atrocity hits you personally, please feel free to come back and post about your newly awakened moral sensibilities. In the meantime, for all the moral pygmies in this forum, go fuck yourselves.
1. About my efforts on behalf of Ukraine, I support them in ways that you have no fucking clue about. If you're so anti-Ukraine, why aren't you with Wagner PMC on the front lines of Bakhmut? And why do you continually deny Putin's agency? He gave the marching order on Feb 24th. Is he a puppet, or did he act as a free agent? You can't have it both ways. If he's a free agent, then he's responsible for ordering the invasion, full stop.
3. About the name-calling, I only do it when it's 100% justified and accurate. So, as pertains to you specifically, it's hard to find a single name that adequately captures your idiocy. Mental midget comes to mind, but I'm sure there are others equally suitable.
Meanwhile, if you'd like to learn how to be less incoherent, here are some tips:
[URL]https://literaryterms.net/when-and-how-to-write-coherently/[/URL]
Of course, it's highly unlikely that you care. And equally unlikely that you'd be able to comprehend the tutorial.
4. Any questions?
P.S. I've never claimed that Russians can be killed while avoiding Ukrainian casualties. I challenge you to produce one shred of evidence to back up your BS claim. You can't, and won't, because that's just another one of your blatant lies. Your recurring falsehoods really make anything and everything you post nothing more than a bile-filled stinking puddle of dog vomit.
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2819719]You are truly all over the fucking map with this one. Are you congenitally unable to form a coherent thought? Are you mentally incapable of constructing any kind of reasoned argument? All the evidence of your posting history suggests not!
In a single rant you whine about Xpartan, me, CNN, COVID, and the 2016 election. Wow, that probably sets a new record for rambling, congrats!
Xpartan can speak for himself, and your other ramblings are so incoherent that they wither on their own, so I'll just speak to your asinine bleatings about me.
1. About outrage, you obviously haven't read my earlier post in which I proposed a moral thought experiment. I challenge you to respond to that post and show why my feelings of moral outrage are misplaced. If you want to be a moral reprobate, that's your choice. But trying to belittle moral outrage that is completely justified does nothing but display your amorality. If karma is a thing, you might want to keep an eye out for life to deal you a personal blow that moves you to outrage. And, if and when some atrocity hits you personally, please feel free to come back and post about your newly awakened moral sensibilities. In the meantime, for all the moral pygmies in this forum, go fuck yourselves.
1. About my efforts on behalf of Ukraine, I support them in ways that you have no fucking clue about. If you're so anti-Ukraine, why aren't you with Wagner PMC on the front lines of Bakhmut? And why do you continually deny Putin's agency? He gave the marching order on Feb 24th. Is he a puppet, or did he act as a free agent? You can't have it both ways. If he's a free agent, then he's responsible for ordering the invasion, full stop.
3. About the name-calling, I only do it when it's 100% justified and accurate. So, as pertains to you specifically, it's hard to find a single name that adequately captures your idiocy. Mental midget comes to mind, but I'm sure there are others equally suitable.
Meanwhile, if you'd like to learn how to be less incoherent, here are some tips:
[URL]https://literaryterms.net/when-and-how-to-write-coherently/[/URL]
Of course, it's highly unlikely that you care. And equally unlikely that you'd be able to comprehend the tutorial.
4. Any questions?[/QUOTE]Everything you have written above is just pure bullshit. You attack none of the arguments and go off on me.
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2819719]P.S. I've never claimed that Russians can be killed while avoiding Ukrainian casualties. I challenge you to produce one shred of evidence to back up your BS claim.[/QUOTE]No, it is just a lie of omission. You keep blathering on about Russians dying and casually forget to mention the Ukrainians who have died to produce that result. But hey, you can talk of victory of a hooker forum with no cost to yourself and imagine the hundreds of billions of dollars coming in from God knows where to rebuild the country, but none of that really matters. All that matters is your wearing a yellow and blue pin showing your "support" for Ukraine (whatever the hell that means). By all means, JM, keep patting yourself on the back and keep telling yourself that your caring about Ukraine (not the people dying but the mission and the associated "victory") makes you a morally superior person.
[URL]https://youtu.be/5U4RSrl9Gwo[/URL]
How often would you see a Hollywood movie scenario where an ideological and greedy gang of terrorists with 'all-or-nothing' attitude hijacks a plane? The assassins start on executing the passengers until their demands are met. With a help of few brave the only marshal on board tries to convince the gang leader and their associates to land and free everyone onboard. The marshal has a deadline as he knows that the plane can be shot down off the skies.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2819780]Everything you have written above is just pure bullshit. You attack none of the arguments and go off on me.
No, it is just a lie of omission. You keep blathering on about Russians dying and casually forget to mention the Ukrainians who have died to produce that result. But hey, you can talk of victory of a hooker forum with no cost to yourself and imagine the hundreds of billions of dollars coming in from God knows where to rebuild the country, but none of that really matters. All that matters is your wearing a yellow and blue pin showing your "support" for Ukraine (whatever the hell that means). By all means, JM, keep patting yourself on the back and keep telling yourself that your caring about Ukraine (not the people dying but the mission and the associated "victory") makes you a morally superior person.[/QUOTE]If you had the intellectual capacity to actually formulate a coherent argument, maybe a response would be possible. But ranting is not the same as arguing. Too bad you can't tell the difference.
Oh, and what a complete and total pussy you must be to whine about my "going off on you" when it was YOU who took a blatantly personal swipe at me.
But you already established what a TOTAL pussy you are with this simple admission:
"this is why Xpartan is on ignore for me".
ROTFLMAO! Wow! Do you need ISG to create a "Safe Space in Kyiv" forum where you won't need to worry about getting your widdle feewings hurt? Is there a better example of pathetic and teminal pussiness than that? I don't think so.
And, once again you stoop to lies because you can't point to a SINGLE thing I've posted to back up your ludicrous straw man assertions. And, since you can't actually quote anything I've said, you just make shit up.
BTW, Mr. Faux-no-balls-patriot, what are YOU doing to fight against the nefarious forces you see around every corner and behind every tree? Did you get arrested with the Jan 6th protesters? Or are you just wearing a "J-6" pin in support?
That's actually rhetorical, no need to answer. Someone who is so pussified that they have to hit the "ignore" button probably pisses themselves at the drop of a hat.
Clean-up on Aisle Elvis!
P.S. Why don't you put me, and everyone else (except Drama and Questner) on ignore? Then you could enjoy an endlessly delusional menage a trois! Or maybe it'd just be a circle-jerk?
[QUOTE=Questner;2819845][URL]https://youtu.be/5U4RSrl9Gwo[/URL]
How often would you see a Hollywood movie scenario where an ideological and greedy gang of terrorists with 'all-or-nothing' attitude hijacks a plane? The assassins start on executing the passengers until their demands are met. With a help of few brave the only marshal on board tries to convince the gang leader and their associates to land and free everyone onboard. The marshal has a deadline as he knows that the plane can be shot down off the skies.[/QUOTE]Evil bully and his gang terrorize a small town. The townspeople rally around their sheriff, defeat the evil bully and his gang, and kill or arrest all the bad guys.
The townspeople and their sheriff live happily ever after.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2819780]You attack none of the arguments and go off on me.[/QUOTE]Resolved: Vladimir Putin personally gave the order to invade Ukraine. Therefore, by definition, Putin is the aggressor.
Evidence in support:
1. In the early hours of Feb 24th, 2022, Russian forces entered Ukraine and advanced on multiple axes, including toward Kyiv.
2. In the early hours of Feb 24th, 2022, Putin publicly announced the invasion, calling it a "Special Military Operation".
3. Absent evidence that Putin was acting against his own will, the logical conclusion is that Putin was acting as a free agent.
4. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, there were no foreign troops (NATO, Ukraine, etc.) on Russian soil.
5. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, Ukraine was much weaker, militarily, and posed no credible threat to Russia.
6. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, NATO was an alliance of 30 nations, with unanimous consent required before any military action could be initiated.
7. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, NATO was an alliance of 30 nations, of which several (Hungary, Turkey, Germany, France, etc.) were on good terms with Russia and would never have approved military action against it.
8. Items 6 and 7, taken together, are prima facie evidence that NATO posed no credible threat to Russia.
Conclusion: Absent any credible threat against it, Russia launched a war and invasion against Ukraine. And it did so on the free-will orders of Putin. Therefore, Putin is the aggressor.
See how that works? Feel free (if you can) to debate any of the points I raised in support of the argument.
"SM-3: The ICBM Stopper. The newest SM-3 variant, Block IIA, has shown it can actually play a role in taking down enemy intercontinental ballistic missiles.
It can do so by being thrust just beyond the boundary of the Earth's atmosphere, where it can take out an ICBM just as the missile finishes its mid-course phase and descends into a terminal phase within the atmosphere.
This is incredibly significant and a historic breakthrough that was first confirmed during a test in 2020".
[URL]https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sm-3-iia-the-missile-that-could-kill-russian-of-chinese-icbms-in-a-war/[/URL]
If this is the level of information that's publicly available (since 2020), then I imagine the classified info is likely to be quite eye-opening.
And, if this is what's publicly known, I imagine both Russia and China have been working overtime to figure out how this affects their nuclear calculus.
All nuclear powers routinely monitor the weapons tests of other nuclear powers, so Russia and China would have some idea of the missile's capabilities.
If the US has truly developed a reliable ICBM stopper, and if we have an adequate supply, that's potentially a game changing development.
[QUOTE=Questner;2819845]as he knows that the plane can be shot down off the skies.[/QUOTE]Do you mean when the Raschists shot down an innocent passenger plane MH17? Raschists have always been terrorists it seems, thanks for reminding everyone.
How's it going in Belgorod BTW?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2819585]Xpartan is back with the oft quoted Democratic douche move that you have never been to place X, something he wants to be true but is not, and this is why Xpartan is on ignore for me. Obviously, we have met in Monterrey and you have seen stunning women but Xpartan just makes shit up and is too dumb to believe any facts that do not fit the Democratic douche narrative.[/QUOTE]Can't stay away, can you, Elvis? I've already explained to you that it's not "ignore" when you talk about someone, but not to someone. You're still reading, still paying attention and still getting aggravated.
What's the point, really?
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2819874]Resolved: Vladimir Putin personally gave the order to invade Ukraine. Therefore, by definition, Putin is the aggressor.
Evidence in support:
1. In the early hours of Feb 24th, 2022, Russian forces entered Ukraine and advanced on multiple axes, including toward Kyiv.
2. In the early hours of Feb 24th, 2022, Putin publicly announced the invasion, calling it a "Special Military Operation".
3. Absent evidence that Putin was acting against his own will, the logical conclusion is that Putin was acting as a free agent.
4. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, there were no foreign troops (NATO, Ukraine, etc.) on Russian soil.
5. At the time Putin ordered the invasion, Ukraine was much weaker, militarily, and posed no credible threat to Russia.[/QUOTE]Yawn. How about posting 2 and 2 equal 4. Everyone here knows all that you dumb Democratic douche. I had a Driver's Ed teacher say that when you get into an accident, "Does it really matter whose fault it is?" Does it matter how the war started or is it important that it ends? Unless you are thinking of invading Russia (and that latest idiocy about shooting down ICBMs) makes me wonder if you are crazy enough to advocate that, do you get that there has to be a deal worked with Putin and that means addressing his feelings and those of the Russian people? You can cry to the heavens how dumb Putin and the Russians are for invading Ukraine but unless they feel secure about their borders, this war is not going to end.
But I have seen this dumb Democratic douche movie before. At its worst with Covid, we had these idiotic Democratic douches literally advocating for not medically treating the unvaccinated. And now we have a dumb shit Democratic douche in you literally cheering on death in this war. You really need to go out and get laid bro.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]Yawn. How about posting 2 and 2 equal 4. [/QUOTE]Shit, I love math. Allow me to help.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]I had a Driver's Ed teacher say that when you get into an accident, "Does it really matter whose fault it is?" [/QUOTE]Why yes, Elvis, it does!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]Does it matter how the war started?[/QUOTE]Fuck yes, Elvis, it does!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]Or is it important that it ends? [/QUOTE]Fuck yes, but you've forgotten one more:
Is it important [B]how[/B] it ends? Because, my shrimp-headed friend, it's very fucking important [B]how[/B] wars end.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]Unless you are thinking of invading Russia (and that latest idiocy about shooting down ICBMs) makes me wonder if you are crazy enough to advocate that, do you get that there has to be a deal worked with Putin and that means addressing his feelings and those of the Russian people? You can cry to the heavens how dumb Putin and the Russians are for invading Ukraine but unless they feel secure about their borders, this war is not going to end.[/QUOTE]Tell me, wise one, should we have made a deal with Hitler back in 1940's?
Just yes or no. Yes or fucking no, Elvis? Be honest now. What do you really think?
Oh and I snipped your misplaced Covid idiocy. I know you can't help it, so -- you're welcome.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2820045]
And now we have a dumb shit Democratic douche in you literally cheering on death in this war. You really need to go out and get laid bro.[/QUOTE]Almost every suburban high school in my metro area has a few refugee Ukrainians. I can tell you absolutely there's no dad here that would send his boy into that human tragedy. Yet, fools that have nothing to do with country advocate more death.
[URL]https://t.me/ministry_of_defense_ua/7655[/URL]