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Doing the Real Math. Not Magical MAGA Math.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080317]You sure have a vivid imagination that is no way backed up by reality.
Did 77,302,580 Muslims vote for President Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
It's funny how President Trump won the election in 2016 while campaigning on a Muslim ban, did he win thanks to Muslims back then as well? What you write says nothing about reality but everything about you.
As I have said before:
1. It's the economy!
2. It's the border crisis!
3. President Trump was a way better candidate than Kamala according to the American people.
By the way; President won Pennsylvania and Michigan by a large margin. I was surprised to see how easily Trump won those states, he won Pennsylvania by 120'000 votes! That's impressive! I thought it was much closer, but it wasn't even close. He won Wisconsin by a landslide relatively to the number of Muslim voters in that state.[/QUOTE][B]2024 Election[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]
[B]National:[/B]
Trump, 77,302,680 votes.
49.8%.
Harris, 75,017,613 votes.
48.3%.
A 1. 5 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 751 point swing would have given Harris the popular vote advantage, for those interested in popular vote numbers in a presidential election.
[B]Michigan:[/B]
Trump, 2,816,363 votes.
49.7%.
Harris, 2,736,533 votes.
48.3%.
A 1.42 percentage point margin, meaning a 0.72 point swing would have given Harris Michigan's Electoral College votes.
[B]Pennsylvania:[/B]
Trump, 3,543,308 votes.
50.3%.
Harris, 3,423,042 votes.
48.6%.
A 1.71 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 86 point swing would have given Harris Pennsylvania's Electoral College votes.
[B]Wisconsin:[/B]
Trump, 1,697,626 votes.
Harris, 1,668,229 votes.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes would have flipped the outcome.
A 1. 18 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 60 swing would have given Harris Wisconsin's Electoral College votes and the win.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes spread across those three states would have flipped the outcome of the election. That is about 8,495 more than the number I have been stating. But the total official count has increased since November 2024 and it doesn't meaningfully change the percentage point swing needed to have flipped the outcome.
The average margin for those three swing states was 1.43 point, meaning a swing of 0.72 point across those three swing states would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. Most of us knows that is less than a 1 percentage point margin that made the difference in the outcome. That swing is less than the 0.75 percentage point swing I have been stating was enough to make the difference.
A. I. Tells me there are approximately 461,800 Muslims living in MI, PA and WI. If only half of them could vote and only 54% of those Muslim voters swung their Community's usual Dem vote away from Harris in accordance to that Pennsylvania Muslim Community Leader's accurate claim I linked to previously that his group's ground game efforts, intensely motivated by Netanyahu's delay of Biden's ceasefire agreement until after the election, won the election for Trump, that resulting 124,686 vote swing would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. And none of them needed to give a damn about the Economy or Immigration to run to the polls to vote "against" the Biden Administration in response to that ground game and Netanyau's clever timing.
BTW, are those really considered "large margins" in Canada? None of them even reached a 2 percentage point margin nor needed as much as a 1 percentage point swing to flip the outcome!
If only 0.72 of a single percentage point of votes spread across the only three swing states that mattered had not swung away from Harris due to Netanyahu's clever delaying of Joe Biden's May 2024 negotiated ceasefire agreement until after the election, we would not today be looking at higher gas prices and a higher rate of inflation than Biden handed to Trump, a new Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, Trillions of dollars more added to the deficit with zero to show for it, pathetic jobs creation numbers with stagnant wage gains lagging behind the rate of inflation and a president praising and publicly blowing Communist leaders around the world while threatening to bomb or invade our allies, brushing off our military and their families as though they are nothing more than "losers" and launching into one move after another to rig elections and overthrow American democracy.
The Dis United States of America is a empire in slow decline!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]If it was a mistake, how do we get out of it then in a way that promotes American interests? Produce a map claiming the Strait of Hormuz to be American territory? Easy peasy right? Just like producing a map proclaiming that the Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. That was easy![/QUOTE]The objective was not to win. It was to juice the companies building the war machine. It was to show that the Dis United States of America no longer has global reach. It cannot keep the supply chain up for its ships. It shows that the Dis United States of America can no longer project global power. That is why it needs Japan to take the gloves off. It is the only country with a historical warrior culture and operational blue water fleet knowledge. In the next kinetic conflict it will be Japan that keeps China in check if they take the gloves off and put in work now!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]Serious, what are your ideas then? How do we end this disaster where we have sailors out to sea for 9 months without a single port call running low on food, broken toilets, a lack of clean water, no toiletries, etc?[/QUOTE]The problem is that the logistical chain is broken. It starts at the top with a incompetent Secretary of Defense and unqualified Flag and General officers because they were picked for loyalty not war fighting competence in the ultimate display of well you know.
[B]Hegseth removes 2 Black and 2 female officers from promotion list[/B]
[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5804541-pete-hegseth-pentagon-promotion-list/[/URL]
Liberia agrees to take 1,200 deportees from the US
[QUOTE]Liberia has agreed to accept up to 1,200 third-country deportees from the United States, authorities in the West African country said Tuesday, in one of the largest such arrangements under the Trump administrations policy aimed at deterring illegal migration.[/QUOTE][URL]https://abcnews.com/International/wireStory/liberia-agrees-1200-deportees-us-135749730[/URL]
[QUOTE]Immigration lawyers have said the Trump administration uses deportations to third countries as a legal loophole to indirectly force asylum seekers back to their home countries. In many cases, migrants are deported to countries they've never been to or where they face safety risks and are left with little choice other than to return to the home countries they were fleeing from.[/QUOTE][URL]https://isp.netscape.com/news/world/story/0001/20260818/fc41b96abc6f26a9b780ce871b269951[/URL]
So in this case it is legal but is it moral and keeping with the spirit of what the Dis United States of America is supposed to be or represent?
Treasury doubles debt buybacks as Bessent moves to steady bond market
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/19/treasury-announces-upscaled-buyback-operation-for-longer-term-debt-sending-yields-lower.html[/URL]
Me and my fellow citizens that are [B]poor[/B] work our ass off for paper they print out of thin air.
[B]Stack Sats![/B]
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Nope. Only three swing states gave Trump winning EC votes
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080468]There are more than three swing states in USA, just in the last election Arizona, Nevada and Georgia also turned red.
President Trump made massive gains among Latinos and Afro-Americans males. It's interesting how you have turned a blind eye on that part.
President Trump won the Caucasian vote.
You don't win elections by pandering to a small religious group, by the way; how many Jewish voters are there in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?
You don't win elections by alienating regular Americans and Jewish Americans to win votes from muslim voters..[/QUOTE]It didn't matter what Latinos or blacks or any other typically Dem-voting demographics did or what happened in any other states.
The three swing states with the closest margins and whose Electoral College votes put Trump in the White House again were MI, PA and WI. And those were the states that were specifically targeted by Muslim Community leaders to convince their unusually large percentage of Muslim voters to swing their usual Dem votes away from anyone in the Biden administration as retribution for its support for Israel, which they extrapolated to being support for Netanyahu, who they hated.
If as little a marginal swing from Trump back to Harris as was needed to put the MI, PA and WI Electoral College votes on Harris' side of the scoreboard had happened in ALL of the other swing states but not in MI, PA and WI, the outcome would still have been a Trump win.
[B]Swing State[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state[/URL]
(See screenshot below).
Those three swing states were the only ones that mattered in the 2024 presidential election. And without a relatively small number of Muslim voters swinging their votes from Harris to Trump as their Leaders told them to do and they were proud to take credit for doing in order to "give Trump the presidency", Trump would not have won the presidency. Those three swing states were the first, last and only Electoral College votes Trump needed to win and would have been the first, last and only states that could have lost it for him.
You act as though you are ashamed to accept that your boy was put back into the White House in order to publicly praise and blow Communist dictators around the world, trash and threaten America's allies, plunge America into another Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, insult our military and their families, raise the price of gas and groceries, increase the rate of inflation, add Trillions of dollars to the deficit with zero to show for it, produce pathetically low private-sector jobs creation numbers with stagnant wages not keeping up with his inflation, lay the groundwork for the next Trump's Pandemic and so on thanks to a perfectly legitimate voting demographic swinging their votes from a Dem to your boy as a perfectly legitimate response to an issue entirely under control of Netanyahu.
Nobody did anything illegal to make that happen. Nobody had to rig the election to make that happen. It was ordinary, run of the mill American democracy and voting. Be proud of how and why that much democracy put your boy back in the White House.
