Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3088892]More complete report soon. But here's how a recent negotiation with a Scan girl went. It was over in 15 seconds. To be fair she was prob a B tier girl but had s smoking body and great in the room. The best thing is for you to start with what you usually do. That lets her know youre not a newbie. And then just be firm. Obv depends on the girl but thai is how it went down.

Me: I usually do 1000.

Her: 2000

Me: No.

Her:1500.[/QUOTE]Do you think it would be fair to add some amount of premium for anal? I usually try to do anal sessions at Scandallo for around 1,200. A price of 2,000 is outrageous, and I would not pay that under any circumstances!

I absolutely love this, never forget you hold the cards.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3088892]More complete report soon. But here's how a recent negotiation with a Scan girl went. It was over in 15 seconds. To be fair she was prob a B tier girl but had s smoking body and great in the room.

The best thing is for you to start with what you usually do. That lets her know youre not a newbie. And then just be firm. Obv depends on the girl but thai is how it went down.

Me: I usually do 1000.

Her: 2000

Me: No.

Her:1500

Me: No.

Her: Ok 1000.

That was it. 15 seconds. Don't pay 2000. Just be prepared to walk. There's a hundred more girls. And yes it can be this simple.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088901]Do you think it would be fair to add some amount of premium for anal? I usually try to do anal sessions at Scandallo for around 1,200. A price of 2,000 is outrageous, and I would not pay that under any circumstances![/QUOTE]Why? Do you think that part of the anatomy warrants a premium? So, is your premium value $R200?

Just to be clear is the $R200 an extra amount added on top of your base rate of $R1000, making the total $R1200?
Or do you mean the $R200 is added on top of your minimum price (your floor), which might change the final number?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088476] No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo?[/QUOTE] [b]Anyone, and I mean Anyone, going to... Scandallo[/b] in the next few days or weeks, please ask even if you're not interested. Just share/post reports of the quotes you receive to help settle this burning question everyone needs to[i] Know...... LOL[/i]!

[QUOTE=Sloninger;3088909]I absolutely love this, never forget you hold the cards.[/QUOTE]You absolutely can't ignore the fact that by Steve's own admission, it wasn't a top tier girl (thanks for being transparent). Guys try this on top tier girls and report back on how it goes. Also, as The Critic suggests, ask about anal just to get some data points.

So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.

400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.

All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).

8 pm-4 am.

So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).

Maybe like 50 girls at most.

Less guys.

Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio.

I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k.

I didn't bother negotiating because I don't deal with terrorists.

I'm sure I could have gotten them down to 1 k but they werent anything special and I was just more curious than anything.

One girl told me she lives in the apartments that the scan owners own that the other girls all live in.

Its just a cube room for 2 kbrl.

So she wanted a months rent from me.

She didn't go with anyone else.

I went to scan the other normal days like weds, thrus, Saturday and honestly haven't seen anyone I really liked as I've had before.

The girls would always start off at 2 k.

I'm not a fan of silly cones and plastic (I'm an environmentalist).

Scan for me has fallen in value because it's just mostly the same girls.

Maybe its just my bad timing but I would usually see the seasonal new girl.

I've been liking casarao and gaugin more.

Fatal model also comes in clutch sometimes.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.

400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.

All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).

8 pm-4 am.

So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).[/QUOTE]Which club?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.

400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.

All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).

8 pm-4 am.

So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).

Maybe like 50 girls at most.

Less guys.

Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio.

I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k..[/QUOTE]What do you consider ugly women? Fat? Skinny? Silicone? What are your tastes?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since it’s a new thing they rolled out this year. 400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come. All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened). 8 pm-4 am. So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho). Maybe like 50 girls at most. Less guys. Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio. I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k. I didn't bother negotiating because I don't deal with terrorists. I'm sure I could have gotten them down to 1 k but they werent anything special and I was just more curious than anything. One girl told me she lives in the apartments that the scan owners own that the other girls all live in. Its just a cube room for 2 kbrl. So she wanted a months rent from me. She didn't go with anyone else. I went to scan the other normal days like weds, thrus, Saturday and honestly haven't seen anyone I really liked as I've had before. The girls would always start off at 2 k. I'm not a fan of silly cones and plastic (I'm an environmentalist). Scan for me has fallen in value because it's just mostly the same girls. Maybe it’s just my bad timing but I would usually see the seasonal new girl. I've been liking casarao and gaugin more. Fatal model also comes in clutch sometimes.[/QUOTE]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]Anytime, anywhere this happens, it's the second tier girls that suffer.

They need a volume of men at the club to make their nut.

Of course, this will cause some girls to simply move to Casarao and Gauguin.

Attractiveness does have a shelf-life.

I went back to Casaro again and arrived early, around 11:30 pm Its kinda boring early. I wanted to catch some new fresh garotas before they are taken up by guys that pay a lot more than me. Kkk.

One thing I've noticed many of the same garotas arevthere night after night. Same thing happend in scandallo after you bounce in and out of there several times a month. Same routine of faces.

Hopefully, the onibus and flights from Minas Gerais will bring in some new talent and fresh faces.

I had a session with a 19-year-old blonde, branca, wearing a red dress. Sitting across from the stage. She looks Ukrainian or Russian. She stared me down while licking red lipstick. I said are $500 brl for one hour. Lets go now. Boom. Vamos we went. . She also works the day shift at Scandallo. We'the sessioned together before, so we already knew what to expect. Overall, the experience was alright not bad, nothing particularly new. , got to remeber to snag two blonde ukrainians for spicy threesomes.

Damage:

Smart Hotel Ltda: are $120 brl for my favorite room #2.

BH Bar e Danceteria Ltda: are $170 brl my drink & her drink.

Total: are $290 brl paid by wise pix for everything

Now I'm looking forward to Halloween. I'the love to see the garotas dressed up in their Halloween costumes. There seem to be plenty of Halloween-themed sex parties being promoted around So Paulo, so hopefully there will be some interesting options.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]It's merely their asking price. Which I don't even inquire about. I do what Steve9696 suggested a few posts back -- simply tell them what I'll pay if they do x, why, and z. They either agree or they don't, no negotiation.

Not sure why guys insist on this "How much do you charge" method.

[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight.[/QUOTE]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089050]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?[/QUOTE]You make a good point, but the big draw to Sao Paulo is the caliber of woman and service is very high. You're also paying for the atmosphere and venue of the clubs. Many of them rival high end restaurants and hotels and are quite classy.

I know at my local high end strip clubs in the USA, if your walking in cold, its $350 just to get them to the back room and then you need a little game to even get them to offer extras and your looking at another few hundred and the service isn't going to match that of the Brazillians. After drinks and cover, with a high end women in USA, its going to be close to $1000 if you don't know and haven't established a report. Maybe 6-7 hundred that if were just speaking a generally attractive girl, but either way it will be significanty more expensive than 2-3 hundred.

I think Sao Paulo is definititely not a budget destination, although I am sure it can be. I think its really only worth it if you have two weeks minimum and 2 k for the girls, drinks, party, etc over the course of your trip.

If you have the time and money, its a great time for those who want very attractive women who offer great genuine service.

To play devil's advocate, a 10 hour flight is absolutely brutal and it can run you around $1500 total plus another $1000 for a hotel. Its $2500 just for a flight and hotels before you even bust a nut, that's not chump change and I can see guys getting lazy and just skipping it altogether to just bang some shady local strippers and I totally get that as well.

To totally justify Sao Paulo, usually you are also just wanting a change of scenery and looking forward to some other aspects of the vacation as well. Sunny weather, beach, pool, friendly staff, different gym, nice fancy dinners, local tourist attractions, etc.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089050]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?[/QUOTE]He's talking about Scandallo, the most expensive club in town, and a must-see. But, there are plenty of others plus the daytime clinicas that are far more affordable.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]If I had to guess, and this is a guess, the girls at Scandallos really seemed to be going by the mentality "every woman for themselves". I would be surprised if they were all collabortating to raise to prices and I would be surprised if the new standard was 2 k a fuck. Its a free market and if you get a night with more girls than guys, your still going to get girls dropping prices fast as they don't want to risk a night of not getting a customer to cover their travel expenses. If its a slow night and the girls have already made a decent amount, then your going to run into those higher asking prices.

I don't think I had any girls last summer turn down a 1200 and most were good with 1000 I think.