Cartagena Reports

What is your point? Do you not think that us gringos are not sometimes taken aside and held for hours and hours upon entry back into the states? Not only coming back from Colombia can it happen. It can happen from coming into the US from anywhere. They can do it to anyone that they want. I've missed planes over it. I'd rather allow them to do it and miss my plane over the alternative. Which is they don't do it to anyone and then we start seeing bombs go off. It is random, you weren't being singled out for being Colombian. Or maybe you were, but in the end no harm done, right?

Plus, what if I told you that the last 3 times I have flown from Cali back to the US, I have had my bags searched and double searched and then searched again.... and then I'm the chosen one that they take aside and go make me be X-rayed. Do I complain? Nope. I know they are doing their job and ultimately it makes the world a better place.


[QUOTE=Katherin]I am skeptical some times too, but I just want do something good for Colombia, I am a girl very serious and I am mad because for the bad thinks many people say about Colombia that make a bad image about us, about serious girl who only want work and make a nice life, I say this because what happend to me in 2 months ago was I went to USA and when I am in the airport theys ask for my passport and visa and I say I am from Colombia theys take me for 4 hours in the office the inmigration just because I am colombian I hate that day, then I saw more person and I ask where thems are from and theys say from Colombia too imagine how I feel, if I just want go usa las vegas to play poker and have a nice birthday. So I'm not are interesting in nothing I only want, make better the imagine the Colombia in all the country I can and help in wherever is possible. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Winner71]What is your point? Do you not think that us gringos are not sometimes taken aside and held for hours and hours upon entry back into the states? Not only coming back from Colombia can it happen. It can happen from coming into the US from anywhere. They can do it to anyone that they want. I've missed planes over it. I'd rather allow them to do it and miss my plane over the alternative. Which is they don't do it to anyone and then we start seeing bombs go off. It is random, you weren't being singled out for being Colombian. Or maybe you were, but in the end no harm done, right?

Plus, what if I told you that the last 3 times I have flown from Cali back to the US, I have had my bags searched and double searched and then searched again.... and then I'm the chosen one that they take aside and go make me be X-rayed. Do I complain? Nope. I know they are doing their job and ultimately it makes the world a better place.[/QUOTE]

Ok here is my input. I too have been singled out like this. Do not accept it, but never be rude. Here is what to do. You kindly let them know that your plane is leaving SOON and show the nearest Police/Military guy your ticket with some pesos behind it,and let them know that you cannot miss the plane and then when they help you get through the lines after they have thoroughly searched your bags, tip them 10-20k cop for helping you. They will even get you through colombian customs faster. Trust me I have done this 2x in Bogota. They really do just want to be safe, and also help. Especially when you tip. dont hesitate to ask for their cell # for the next time you are passing through their airport just in case. Seriously. Always get numbers of anyone who helps you for any reason. Taxis, bartenders, Police, Militar, hotels, providers,whatever. Just like Networking in the U.S. Just good advise anywhere.

It's in the US where I have missed my planes. It's pretty difficult to miss an International flgiht out of Colombia as they rarely leave on time. I don't think they'd leave anyone, they do a pretty good job of making sure everyone has passed through all the required points and are ready to go.

[QUOTE=Belldude2]Ok here is my input. I too have been singled out like this. Do not accept it, but never be rude. Here is what to do. You kindly let them know that your plane is leaving SOON and show the nearest Police/Military guy your ticket with some pesos behind it,and let them know that you cannot miss the plane and then when they help you get through the lines after they have thoroughly searched your bags, tip them 10-20k cop for helping you. They will even get you through colombian customs faster. Trust me I have done this 2x in Bogota. They really do just want to be safe, and also help. Especially when you tip. dont hesitate to ask for their cell # for the next time you are passing through their airport just in case. Seriously. Always get numbers of anyone who helps you for any reason. Taxis, bartenders, Police, Militar, hotels, providers,whatever. Just like Networking in the U.S. Just good advise anywhere.[/QUOTE]

Airport security is a joke anyway, it is just another way for them to fuck with you. There are no bombs. Just a few more of our liberties that the Bush assministration (I know how to spell administration) have found a way to remove. We know that they do not care about illegal immigration. I guess if you have the class to arrive in the country by airplane that throws up a red flag but if you swim the river, "Come on in".

[QUOTE=Katherin].......I love the musik electronik and in the disco where in Cartagena listen that musik is .......[/QUOTE]Katherin:

I also enjoy electronic music. Which disco are you referring to?

Suerte!

Polvo

Hey I found this great looking apartment...

[url]http://www.cartagenaapartments.net/apartment_3.htm[/url]

Has anyone stayed here before or know anything about it? The price is really good I think. What do you guys think? Im not sure if it is chica friendly tho.

Also not sure if it is a good location. It says one block from Hotel Capilla Del Mar so if you know where that hotel is you know where this building is.

[QUOTE=Winner71]It's in the US where I have missed my planes. It's pretty difficult to miss an International flgiht out of Colombia as they rarely leave on time. I don't think they'd leave anyone, they do a pretty good job of making sure everyone has passed through all the required points and are ready to go.[/QUOTE]Same shit hapen to me all the time, ither for Bussines or plesure, one time I was hold up 4 hours in denver Airport, Just to many entrance to the USA from Cancun, or Merida. They fund 3 or 4 diferent bussines cards from Colombian Hotels, and from other people, Fuck was pain in the neck, but, a gain my cooless. And for all the Questions they ask me I did answer whit a smile in my face, they ask the same question 3 or 4 times, after 4 or 5 smiles they tookme to a room whit a INS supervisor, and 3 more officials, same cuestions, After 4 hours, they let me go.

My two cents

Kukulkan

Guys, I never replied to this person after her last email which I posted here. I just received this one on Friday, but did not have the time to open it until today. I think this would be a good prize for my good friend Winner! lol :)

[quote]From: "Jenifer xxxxxxxxxx" <jecarolinaxxxx@hotmail.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: [email]xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com[/email]
Subject: RE: Conteste tu carta!
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:57:50 -0500

hola eduardo


bueno te escribo para proponerte lo siguiente, yo deseo estar contigo pero quiero la Operacion de senos que te pedi por favor regalamela no seas asi, eso es lo mas que puedes hacer por mi. mira mi vida si tu quieres nos encontramos en bogota cuando vengas para colombia, porque deseo verte en otro lugar diferente para que pueda ser yo ...no creas que solo deseo tu dinero te quiero ati m iamor pero ahora mismo necesito 2.000 dolares para esa operacion de los senos por favor eduardo si me
quieres regalamela, si quieres nos vemos antEs en bogota, COLOMBIA, no me mporta pero regalamela complaceme, no me interesan regalos de otra clase......sera que puedes hacer eso por mi.
ESCRIBEME AMOR NECESITO QUE ME CONTESTES, YO ME CASO CONTIGO PERO ANTES RGALAME LA OPERACION DE LOS SENOS, TU NO SABES CUANTO SUENO CON ESO,
PARECE ALGO QUE NO PUEDO CONTROLAR.............
TE QUIERO MUCHO Y TE EXTRANO MUCHISIMOOOO
RESPONDEME, SI ME VAS AREGALAR LO QUE NECESITO............

TU REINA
JENNIFFER[/quote]

[QUOTE=Katherin]Hola guys I am from Cartagena and I still here in this city. Well I read all the reports and one part of me say wow is god I'm glad this guys can see the real world, and other side of me say fuck this guys what I can say to thems theys just are talking shit or theys want to the people don't visit more Colombia (Cartagena) but guys I'm not are a prostitue but I know many because I love the musik electronik and in the disco where in Cartagena listen that musik is in the putas disco, and I am living in bocagrande the place where is the turist people. I understand some girls, why theys do that job, and sometimes you understand and you agree with thems.

So. I want say to winner71, I'm sorry for that girl ask you for money and she used a excuses is a big one, but I hope you not are so stupid for sent the money to her. Also the most girlsare working in Cartagena not are from this city are from Medellin o Cali o Bogota. Think in that.

If you need a advice just talk in my email [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

I just wnat help to change the face Colombia have in the world. Because that influye in all the people.

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Katherin I understand your frustration. I have been traveling internationally for 15 years and only one time ever have I been held up, maybe 30 minutes returing from Costa Rica. My travels have been to many suspect places too, Nigeria, Angola, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Colombia, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, ect. Unless a drug dog singles an American out returning less than .001% get held up. My wife is from Cartagena and the day she arrived in the United States she had a valid K-1 visa. Her flight arrived in Miami at 5:50 and she did not get through immigration until 1:00 a.m. Spent her first night in the United States sleeping in the fucking airport. US Customs and Immigration officers are required to take an advanced course in arrogance and unless they graduate witrh honors they become rent-a-cops. The only thing I can think of to compare to these people son pulgas, risa.

[QUOTE=Beavis]Unless a drug dog singles an American out returning less than .001% get held up.[/QUOTE]Beavis, I'm glad that you've obviously been very fortunate. Don't judge everyone's experiences from your own.

I'm an American citizen and I was pulled out of line while re-entering the country FIVE times in a row. They needed to do an "agricultural" inspection of my luggage. Perhaps they thought I was smuggling in artichokes or something. A total pain in the butt.

I know it is much worse for our international friends. It is not about security, it is solely about having power over others. I apologize to you for the stupidity and rudeness of our immigration people. Please don't judge all of us by the way they treat you. We are not all "Ugly Americans."

Don't take it personal Katharin. The government bureaucrats believe that they have the right to be a jerk to anyone.

I hope that in the end you enjoyed our country as much as I enjoyed yours!

DB

Contact BOTH of your senators immediately by e-mail. Follow up with a call.

I, too, am an American citizen, born and bred. These fuckwads in ICE have a stick up their asses. My instances totalled 13 straight "secondary" searches in 2006, stateside before being allowed to "officially" enter the USA. I called out one asshole (he really was) directly in front of his supervisor one time, but dude was being a complete ass.

Then, I pulled out my official note from Washington DC, their end-all, be-all response to those pricks behind the glass. Basically stating national security bullshit, and apologies for the inconvenience, yada yada yada, but that I shouldn't be harrassed anymore. It was also notated in their system.

Haven't been bothered now going on 7+ international trips this year alone. Maybe I should knock on wood. It did take about 3-4 months, but resolved eventually. Score one for the American citizen who fights back, rather than take it up the ass.

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Beavis, I'm glad that you've obviously been very fortunate. Don't judge everyone's experiences from your own.

I'm an American citizen and I was pulled out of line while re-entering the country FIVE times in a row. They needed to do an "agricultural" inspection of my luggage. Perhaps they thought I was smuggling in artichokes or something. A total pain in the butt.

I know it is much worse for our international friends. I apologize to you for the stupidity and rudeness of our immigration people. Please don't judge all of us by the way they treat you. We are not all "Ugly Americans."

Don't take it personal Katharin. The government bureaucrats believe that they have the right to be a jerk to anyone.

I hope that in the end you enjoyed our country as much as I enjoyed yours!

DB[/QUOTE]

whatever you think but about every two months i enter the country and very seldom do i see another american do anything other than walk through. yes i know that some get screened but it is a very small percentage. i think it depends on if the officer got laid the night before. maybe i always get the ones who's wife's fuck the shit out of them the night before.

if you have been pulled out of line several times there is something in the computer that tells them you are a bad boy. maybe they know you from here, lol? if your name was muhammad abdul with a huge box full of unexplained electronics i am sure you would pass right through but if you look normal and they think you might have a picture in your digital camera that would offend some holy roller that would be terrible. this country makes me want to fucking puke.

just like the new law they passed where they can prosecute you for having sex with **** girls in other countries. i think ****s should be castrated but if a man goes to a country and has sex with a girl that is 16 or 17 (which is legal in many countries) and then they can arrest you for it here? that is just fucked up. the united states has no jurisdiction in these other countries.

I've run across those. They kept the GF under lock and key for 9 hours and didn't give her anything to eat or let her go to the bathroom before shipping her back to her country.

[QUOTE=Beavis]US Customs and Immigration officers are required to take an advanced course in arrogance and unless they graduate witrh honors they become rent-a-cops. [/QUOTE]

Sorry but this is a funny letter I think all the letters in gringos emails say the same thing. 4 mounths ago my husband meet a person who is from usa and he show to us a email say the same thing from a girl name jennifer I remember that because was to funny. So I don't know gays but take care, maybe is the same girl the most important in Cartagena for the girls is make a surgery for boobies. I am thinking in make a office, with my husband and buy many silicons and make surgerys for boobies we make a lot money if we do that jaja. The surgery price is 2 thousand dollars and you can find for less 4 millons pesos. Plus the things you need buy later. So I love to hear more storys about that, because the 100% the girls in Cartagena just the 40% have a surgery.

Sorry I want that surgery who can give me the price is 2 thousand dollars I can divorced and married again. Jaja well for my husband is to fun, I want hear storys.come on gays. Ohh also is a web site where you can see if the girl with you want married is there. [url]http://www. *********.com/06/[/url] some of this girls don't know are in this web site so enjoy.

Hey has anyone ever heard of a guy named Noam? He owns an Israeli Restaurant in CTG. I need to get in touch with him. If anyone knows where I can reach him please share. Thanks