General Reports

[/QUOTE]The standard time is around 45 to 50 minutes for a cost of around 200HK to 500HK. Cost varies depending on the type of girl offered, quality of girl, quality of service, and quality of the rooms. The average cost is 360HK.

At most YS, you can choose from up to 3 or 4 girls depending on who is available. Some YS bring all the girls to you at the same time to choose (e.g., 37 Dundas), others let the girl come to you one at a time. Normally, 4 is the max number of girls you can choose from. Most girls will be in their mid 20s to early 30s.

The advantage to going to a GOOD YS place is there is a mamason who ensures good service provided to you from the girl. Most open from 11:00 am until 6:00 am the next day. In Mong Kok, at last count, there are about 200+ YS outlets. Most are found on Portland and Shanghai streets with the starting point being Dundas street heading towards mainland China.[/QUOTE]


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Dear Undercoverh,

You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class). That's unfortunate, as the link I retrieved above that was posted earlier with all of the pics indicates that a lot of these Class B girls are quite pretty and young.

I've read a number of reports on this forum and others suggesting that the KP and 37 Dundas girls were not so pretty and as you suggest in your quote; not all that young. I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend.

I'm just looking for info. I'm not challenging you in anyway. I will be visiting HK in November. At this point I do plan on visiting both KP and 37 Dundas. But, after viewing the pics in the link, I am also inclined to investigate the Class B places also.

My questions are simple.

How do the girls at KP and 37 Dundas compare in looks to the girls in the link above?

You have suggested big danger in visiting the paper sign YS "Class B" establishments. Do you have any evidence of danger associated with these places or do you just have a bad feeling about them. The experience you described of the girl hitting you up for an extra 100HK over the 260HK you had originally negotiated doesn't sound so terrible. I've been in somewhat worse situations. Then again, I am not looking for trouble. So what examples do you have of visitors having real problems in these Class B places?

Thanks for your input and take care.

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Nope, you guessed wrong. You may recall in my post I stated it depends on which island you are on. The island I was referring to was......can you guess.......... I will give you a hint, it is in the Visayas. Second hint, it is near the island of Cebu. You give up?? The island I was referring to is Camotes Island. It is a less than an hour boat ride from Cebu City. And, the info I gave was correct.........as always. : - )[/QUOTE]


I will actually be visiting Cebu as well as Hong Kong during this visit. I haven't come across a reference to Comotes in the past. I will look it up. Very good prices versus the downtown GoGos in Cebu. Only an hour away! I'll give it a look.

Thanks for the info.

Hey, it will be my first P4P in Hong Kong, Macau and Cebu. I've hit most of the LOS and the PI and will be hitting the regular places again on this trip - BKK, Pattaya, Manila, AC and Subic. HK and Macau will be completely new. I've been to Cebu; but I brought sand to the beach on that one trip, so it will be basically a new P4P experience for me also.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Nope, you guessed wrong. You may recall in my post I stated it depends on which island you are on. The island I was referring to was......can you guess.......... I will give you a hint, it is in the Visayas. Second hint, it is near the island of Cebu. You give up?? The island I was referring to is Camotes Island. It is a less than an hour boat ride from Cebu City. And, the info I gave was correct.........as always. : - )[/QUOTE]

Now I haven't gone back to look if you said anything about "it depends on which island you are on". I guess I'll have to go back and look that up. I looked in my recently purchased Rough Guides to the Phillipines travel guide. It's a god awful travel guide and I simply know almost more than what's provided in the guide. But, I did find a map and located the island. But, the tour guide said nothing of the place. Google search. Nothing also. Nothing to verify anything about what you stated.

These little off island places usually have no bars with GROs. Even Bohol is devoid of such places.

This is so off topic for the HK forum.. Let's move to the Cebu forum and you can educate all the guys there and me regarding your knowledge and experiences on Compotes. You can start with your hotel and where you found the girls for the prices you quoted. And maybe you can tell everyone how long ago this experience occured.

N1

Guys,

Compared to other places in Asia, the women in Hong Kong are overall pretty bad in terms of appearance. It is very difficult to find even decent looking women in Hong Kong. I would have to say that Macau, Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo and definitely Seoul has much better looking women. I mean yes it may be cheaper but man---sometimes there is really no quality control. Take for example the saunas on Hong Kong side, River Nile, Carnival and Kings in Northpoint, and also the saunas on the Kowloon side---some of the women--I would not even consider if it was for free. There have been numerous times where I just walked out and paid the sauna fee and said you have to be joking right?

Best bet is take the ferry to Macau it only takes an hour to get there---price is similar to HK and the selection is much better. At least you won't get the old and hideous looking pros. And don't even get me started on Wan Chai----this place is for the desperate that don't know better.

From Member "Nuevo"

Dear Undercoverh,

You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class). That's unfortunate, as the link I retrieved above that was posted earlier with all of the pics indicates that a lot of these Class B girls are quite pretty and young.

I've read a number of reports on this forum and others suggesting that the KP and 37 Dundas girls were not so pretty and as you suggest in your quote; not all that young. I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend.

I'm just looking for info. I'm not challenging you in anyway. I will be visiting HK in November. At this point I do plan on visiting both KP and 37 Dundas. But, after viewing the pics in the link, I am also inclined to investigate the Class B places also.

My questions are simple.

How do the girls at KP and 37 Dundas compare in looks to the girls in the link above?

You have suggested big danger in visiting the paper sign YS "Class B" establishments. Do you have any evidence of danger associated with these places or do you just have a bad feeling about them. The experience you described of the girl hitting you up for an extra 100HK over the 260HK you had originally negotiated doesn't sound so terrible. I've been in somewhat worse situations. Then again, I am not looking for trouble. So what examples do you have of visitors having real problems in these Class B places?

Thanks for your input and take care.

N1[/QUOTE]


Dear Nuevo,

It appears as if you were reading my post with the intend of TRYING to find something wrong with it. Why else would you have misunderstood several simple points I was making regarding YS and twist my statements into something else resulting in your misunderstanding. Whereas, others who have read my comments have not misunderstood them. I know this to be true by the fact that I have received PM from readers.

I will not list all the misunderstandings, but here is a few examples of what you wrote: "You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class)." Nope, I never stated that. I stated the Class A YS give you better service. The Class B and lower tend not to be high on the service scale. As far as safety, I wrote about how a person needs to judge that for himself depending on several factors.

With respect to your comments, "I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend." Your statement is the reason why I give a disclaimer on some of my post. My disclaimer generally states that "your mileage may vary." In other words, of course there will be times when the girls are not that lovely or too YOUR personal taste on a certain night that you or someone else visit the YS. And of course, sometimes, the more younger and lovely girls may have already been picked and what they have left is what you are viewing.

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Now I haven't gone back to look if you said anything about "it depends on which island you are on". I guess I'll have to go back and look that up. I looked in my recently purchased Rough Guides to the Phillipines travel guide. It's a god awful travel guide and I simply know almost more than what's provided in the guide. But, I did find a map and located the island. But, the tour guide said nothing of the place. Google search. Nothing also. Nothing to verify anything about what you stated.

These little off island places usually have no bars with GROs. Even Bohol is devoid of such places.

This is so off topic for the HK forum.. Let's move to the Cebu forum and you can educate all the guys there and me regarding your knowledge and experiences on Compotes. You can start with your hotel and where you found the girls for the prices you quoted. And maybe you can tell everyone how long ago this experience occured.

N1[/QUOTE]

Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books.

I've written a coupla times on Gam Sing (Golden City) -- 141 Portland.

Been there a few times now and it just gets better. There are some great girls there -- somewhat blowing Bam Man's illinformed comments out of the water.

What I particularly like is the water bed. Tell Nancy (the mamasan) you want the girl to use the water bed, and then when you enter the shower, the girl will have set the water bed up with a towel on it and you get washed, licked, BMed, lying on your front and then your back. Great relaxing service -- you dont have to stand up to be counted as youre getting cleaned.

And often the time up buzz has gone when I'm still on the water bed.

Gam Sing and the water bed -- $490 well spent.
Highly lickommended.

JS

JS

I am relative newbie to board with only couple of post, so please excuse my posting mistake.

Below Kev 3x mase refercnce to meeting maids in yahoo chat rooms.

Does some one have this link they can post on board.

I will be heading to HK next week and I will plan to post reports upon my return.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Is it just me, or did the price of hotel in K Pressure just go up? I went last Saturday, girl was 390 but the hotel was 108, not 100 like reported previously by other memebers. Not that it is a problem. Just reporting my experience from Saturday. Maybe it is the weekend thing?

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I think that the hotels either change their prices slightly based on demand, or sometimes there are more hotels in the same building that charge slightly different. At 37 Dundas, for example, I've been in two different hotels on two different floors. The one on the top floor only charged us 80 for the room (and the girl actually gave me the $20 back!!), but the middle floor hotel charged full price. But that was Tuesday vs. Saturday night as well, so my research is not yet complete.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]

Dear Nuevo,

It appears as if you were reading my post with the intend of TRYING to find something wrong with it. Why else would you have misunderstood several simple points I was making regarding YS and twist my statements into something else resulting in your misunderstanding. Whereas, others who have read my comments have not misunderstood them. I know this to be true by the fact that I have received PM from readers.

I will not list all the misunderstandings, but here is a few examples of what you wrote: "You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class)." Nope, I never stated that. I stated the Class A YS give you better service. The Class B and lower tend not to be high on the service scale. As far as safety, I wrote about how a person needs to judge that for himself depending on several factors.

With respect to your comments, "I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend." Your statement is the reason why I give a disclaimer on some of my post. My disclaimer generally states that "your mileage may vary." In other words, of course there will be times when the girls are not that lovely or too YOUR personal taste on a certain night that you or someone else visit the YS. And of course, sometimes, the more younger and lovely girls may have already been picked and what they have left is what you are viewing.[/QUOTE]

Dear UCh,

My intent is not to find anything wrong with the facts of your posts. You appear to be quite knowledgeable of the HK P4P scene. I certainly am not. I've never visited HK; I'm just doing research for my upcoming trip.

I am interested in possibly visiting the paper sign "Class B" YS places simply because the girls' pics in the link I provided from an earlier post in this thread. The girls looked pretty damn cute. I've been around long enough to know all about YMMV and mine has certainly varied a lot in my past visits to Asia. That's why I do a lot of research and ask a bunch of questions. I want to improve my potential for a good mileage experience.

The major question I had was concerning whether you had any knowledge of actual harm coming to visitors to the Class B YS establishments. This is a straight-forward question. Nothing more than that. If you have that knowledge, please share with me and other members of the forum.

You wrote a couple of very informative reports on 8 Mong Tok at the end of July. I sensed you recommended the place; but again I may be wrong. From your descriptions this sounded like one of the Class B places you referred to earlier. Is this place still worth a look?

Thanks,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books.[/QUOTE]

I guess I will have review all of your posts to find the report you are referring to as I am interested in what you had to say. Please do not insult me again. This final statement from you was obviously intended as such. "As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books." My intent is to do research for my upcoming trip. I do my best to avoid forum fights as they serve no practical purpose for me or the forum.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. [/QUOTE]

Dear UCh,

No PI reports in any of your 166 posts going back to 09/06. Maybe you posted this info on another forum? Care to share where this post occured?

This is not a challenge. Just provide a link.

Thanks,

N1

I live in Shenzhen. Stayed a couple of days in Hk, so decided to give the (in)famous 37 Dundas a try.

Saw 2 lineups of 3 girls each. As mentioned before in previous reports, girls are not that great looking. Out of the total of 6 girls, I could have picked 3. Would have walked out rather than pick the other 3. Picked the one that had the biggest smile on her face.

The service was excellent! This has been reported before about 37 Dundas, and I can only confirm it. Quick and efficient scrub in the shower, she gets down on her knees. After a few minutes of BBBJ, she asks if I want to cum. Yes ma'am, and can I come in your mouth too? No problem, she says with a smile, so it's the first CIM.

A quick wash, and then onto the bed. Did some resting (feeling her up) for about 10 minutes, and then she went to work. Quick catbath including sucking on fingers and toes, and then she flipped me over for some AR. No anal action (she said I was too big and her a-hole too small), but her pussy was tight like hell. Not sure how that is possible. After about 10 minutes of fucking, phone rang. It's the 10 minute warning. I asked her to finish me off in her mouth. She said OK, again with a big smile. That was the single biggest difference between service in southern China and HK. Very friendly, polite and enthusiastic in HK.

She tried to get me to do a 3rd shot, which means extending another 50 minutes no doubt. I was tempted, but declined. 2 shots was enough. Did get her phone number though. She goes to Shenzhen (Luohu and LongGang) every couple of weeks. She asked if I want to hook up with her in a bar/disco. Yes ma'am, if you will blow me in a back alley or my car.

I spoke English to the mamasan because she started yapping Cantonese at me, and I don't speak Cantonese. So she never asked if I was happy, or had any complaints on the way out. I did notice that her English was rather basic. Next time I will speak Mandarin, maybe that helps.

Place: 37 Dundas, followed the sign that says "man's paradise, 390 HK$"
Time: Thursday, 3 pm
Cost: 390 HK$ for the girl, 100 HK$ for room, 50 HK$ tip (optional). You can take 2 girls for 780 HK$ total.
Duration: 50 minutes
Girl: From Chongqing, 26 she says
GFE: 10!
Face: 7
Body: 5 (A Cup)
DFK: Yes
Pros: 2 shots, CIM both times
Cons: no anal
Overall: 8

Hello,

I'm almost on my way to go to 37D, and as purple asked on a previous report.

I have questions regarding what we can expect.

Wadman had a great time in 37D with 2 CIM.

Is that a standard to get CIM?

Is that extraball included in the original price?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Pierre Lantenaq]Hello,

I'm almost on my way to go to 37D, and as purple asked on a previous report.

I have questions regarding what we can expect.

[/QUOTE]

This is standard operating procedures at 37 Dundas. I'll assume you don't speak Cantonese.

- You nervously enter facility
- Hostess greets you
- Takes you to a small karaoke room
- Asks if you want something to drink
- Brings you drink and a girl
- At this point, you can refuse and ask for another. Or ask a lineup.
- Once you find an acceptable girl, hostess leaves and girl sits next to you in private room
- Awkward conversation (or silence). Don't expect any English or only minimal English.
- Hostess returns, checks if you find girl OK
- If OK, you pay hostess $390
- You and girl exit room and the facility
- You and girl walk up two floors to a hotel
- You pay $100 for a room
- You do the deed. Extensive showering, BBBJ in shower and on bed, anal rimming, big bang. You'll get DATY two-thirds of the time. CIM is very rare.
- Phone rings telling you your 45 minutes is almost up
- You shower and dress
- Tipping her is optional. Some will refuse.
- You and her exit room and hotel
- As you walk downstairs, past 37 Dundas, hostess asks for you to rate your experience
- You return on Dundas Street with less sperm and cash.