Manila

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3080240]Thanks Westy, 14 K that's crazy, I thought private rooms would be cheaper than bar fining, I guess I was wrong.[/QUOTE]Ohhhh nooooooo. You are paying extra for convenience:

1) Older fellas get a stiffie in the bar, but lose the stiffie by the time he gets a girl from the bar back to his place; he needs some lovin' RIGHT NOW.

2) Alternately you start asking for the privado and the mama starts thinking you have a girlfie / wife back at your hotel / condo, and cha-ching you are willing to pay more for a ST hotel, or even more for her privado + hottie which is front of you: RIGHT NOW.

Fellas willing to privado = cha-ching.

Even pre-covid you were going to pay more than a ST barfine rate for the privado when considering the money for the privado room + girl's fee + drinks. My fav was Dimple's bar (previously located approximately were V8/ Bottoms are currently). You can see the layout of the place in the pic. Notice there is no wall or door closing the CR and also the privado area. The private area was a dark, smoky area with no lights, the only light was from whatever ambient light came in from the main bar area. There were two couches, and they were in plain view of anyone heading to / from the CR. Also the CR was unisex and gogo girls used it regularly to pee in. I'd be taking a beer-fueled whiz at the pisser when a bikini-clad girl would walk in and head into a stall. "Westy I seen your girl Lynn here few nights ago". I see, who was she with? "Her cousin Clowe and some other girl. We are chica-chica". You know Clowe? "Yes she worked here before". I was aware Lynn worked here before, her cousin also? "Yes. And Lynn say your brother has dementia. Di ba? So bad. My lolo also". BTW, this kind of chismosa happens constantly behind your back, its as normal as can be.

As there was no door closing the CR, there was also no door or wall enclosing the privado. Walking past the privado going in / out of the CR, you could barely make out the couches, and on occasion one of the couches (or both) were occupied with an old-timer getting a BJ, or more.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3080240]Thanks Westy, 14 K that's crazy, [/QUOTE]Addendum. Yes it seemed crazy at the time. OTOH the hottie in my lap was easily in the 9-10 range on the scale (gent depending), bubbly in personality, drunk, and horny. $250 USD for a couple hours and 2 uncovered shots and a bucket of beer with her might not have been the worst thing that ever happened to me. In fact, my mates in the home country would be convinced that I was lying if I told them it had happened. So. . .

Also if memory serves me, last year a mama in Oculto bar also said p14 k for standard takeout barfine (included girl's tip). This while most bars (including Marquee) are about p9-10 k for standard take-out barfine.

Thanks G! I'm going in with eyes open and want to experience Burgos. Let's see if I decide with my brain or dick once I'm actually there.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3080262]Burgos never has been a budget friendly option. You pay for being foreigner friendly and convenience.

Sure there are onsite options but all in you are going to pay at least the same as a regular barfine. It can be a great night but there is no Soi 6 equivalent where you can be in and out for 2 k.

Don't forget that there are also several short time hotels within walking distance where you can take her for as much fun as you want at normal rates.

I'm not trying to dissuade you. I had a great time. Just go in with eye open.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

When she's a solid 9 or 10, the extra money suddenly feels a lot less crazy. I would cave in too if I found girls in that range.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3080309]Addendum. Yes it seemed crazy at the time. OTOH the hottie in my lap was easily in the 9-10 range on the scale (gent depending), bubbly in personality, drunk, and horny. $250 USD for a couple hours and 2 uncovered shots and a bucket of beer with her might not have been the worst thing that ever happened to me. In fact, my mates in the home country would be convinced that I was lying if I told them it had happened. So. . .

Also if memory serves me, last year a mama in Oculto bar also said p14 k for standard takeout barfine (included girl's tip). This while most bars (including Marquee) are about p9-10 k for standard take-out barfine.[/QUOTE]

Reading the review earlier back a few pages, it mentioned a club 'Lollipop'. I've look all over the maps etc but cannot see it anywhere. Anyone able to help with the location.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Simplex33;3080804]Reading the review earlier back a few pages, it mentioned a club 'Lollipop'. I've look all over the maps etc but cannot see it anywhere. Anyone able to help with the location.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is one Lollipop bar in Angeles city, about three hours away from Manila.

[QUOTE=Simplex33;3080804]Reading the review earlier back a few pages, it mentioned a club 'Lollipop'. I've look all over the maps etc but cannot see it anywhere. Anyone able to help with the location.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is also a Lollipop on Burgos. Its upstairs from Nautica. Simplex, use the Advanced Search button in the upper-right corner of each ISG webpage. In the Keyword box enter: 'Lollipop'. In the drop-down box find 'Philippines'. Click search, and it should come up with what you are looking for. A clear case of failure to RTFF, as this location was discussed at length just a month ago in this thread, from page 5:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=3075343&viewfull=1#post3075343[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=3075344&viewfull=1#post3075344[/URL]

Complete with pictures for the lazy.

My best friend from work got into a tricky situation where a girl from Manila is claiming he got her pregnant. So this guy went to Philippines for a few days back in March. Me and him went together in December of 2025 but this time he went without me with another friend. We are planning on taking another trip in a month or so. So he reactivated his telegram and messaged her to see if this girl was available but she is claiming he got her pregnant. She said she had not sex with anybody else. My friends says he met her at some street food place and got her number. Then they had sex multiple times over 3 days. He said he used condom once but other three or four times he went without condom but he pulled out just before. I don't know how true his statements are but I'll take them as face value. I know that there is a big chance that somebody can get pregnant even if he pulled out or if he had sex multiple rounds and some of the sperm stayed inside that got released with precum. I feel so bad for the dude. He's been depressed for the last week. He deactivated his telegram again so she can't message him again. He got his phone number from some bootleg place in Brazil that he used to log into telegram. He said he told her that he's from Brazil but he's American. She can probably trace him back to his hotel since he checked into the hotel using his passport. He said he does not remember if she has his picture. He does not have any social media. How cooked is he? We're thinking we're going to message her and get more details. He said he'd feel bad if his kid has to grow up in those places, so part of him wants to take responsibility but part of him wants to say fuck it and I'm out unless the court forces him or something. I feel bad since I was the one who showed him Philippines first. We were googling around and looks like she'll likely have to keep the baby since abortion is not an option there, assuming she's telling the truth. What should he do or what can he do here?

[QUOTE=Sinclair3;3080889]My best friend from work got into a tricky situation where a girl from Manila is claiming he got her pregnant. So this guy went to Philippines for a few days back in March. Me and him went together in December of 2025 but this time he went without me with another friend. We are planning on taking another trip in a month or so. So he reactivated his telegram and messaged her to see if this girl was available but she is claiming he got her pregnant. She said she had not sex with anybody else. My friends says he met her at some street food place and got her number. Then they had sex multiple times over 3 days. He said he used condom once but other three or four times he went without condom but he pulled out just before. I don't know how true his statements are but I'll take them as face value. I know that there is a big chance that somebody can get pregnant even if he pulled out or if he had sex multiple rounds and some of the sperm stayed inside that got released with precum. I feel so bad for the dude. He's been depressed for the last week. He deactivated his telegram again so she can't message him again. He got his phone number from some bootleg place in Brazil that he used to log into telegram. He said he told her that he's from Brazil but he's American. She can probably trace him back to his hotel since he checked into the hotel using his passport. He said he does not remember if she has his picture. He does not have any social media. How cooked is he? We're thinking we're going to message her and get more details. He said he'd feel bad if his kid has to grow up in those places, so part of him wants to take responsibility but part of him wants to say fuck it and I'm out unless the court forces him or something. I feel bad since I was the one who showed him Philippines first. We were googling around and looks like she'll likely have to keep the baby since abortion is not an option there, assuming she's telling the truth. What should he do or what can he do here?[/QUOTE]He should man up and take care of his responsibilities. The girl is about 5 months pregnant.

He should at least help with her medical and hospital bills. Which would not amount to much.

After birth do a DNA test.

DNA test confirms then do a long term monthly support program.

Report to his respective country Child Born Abroad.

Anything less he should have his balls removed.

[QUOTE=Sinclair3;3080889]My best friend from work got into a tricky situation where a girl from Manila is claiming he got her pregnant. So this guy went to Philippines for a few days back in March. Me and him went together in December of 2025 but this time he went without me with another friend. We are planning on taking another trip in a month or so. So he reactivated his telegram and messaged her to see if this girl was available but she is claiming he got her pregnant. She said she had not sex with anybody else. My friends says he met her at some street food place and got her number. Then they had sex multiple times over 3 days. He said he used condom once but other three or four times he went without condom but he pulled out just before. I don't know how true his statements are but I'll take them as face value. I know that there is a big chance that somebody can get pregnant even if he pulled out or if he had sex multiple rounds and some of the sperm stayed inside that got released with precum. I feel so bad for the dude. He's been depressed for the last week. He deactivated his telegram again so she can't message him again. He got his phone number from some bootleg place in Brazil that he used to log into telegram. He said he told her that he's from Brazil but he's American. She can probably trace him back to his hotel since he checked into the hotel using his passport. He said he does not remember if she has his picture. He does not have any social media. How cooked is he? We're thinking we're going to message her and get more details. He said he'd feel bad if his kid has to grow up in those places, so part of him wants to take responsibility but part of him wants to say fuck it and I'm out unless the court forces him or something. I feel bad since I was the one who showed him Philippines first. We were googling around and looks like she'll likely have to keep the baby since abortion is not an option there, assuming she's telling the truth. What should he do or what can he do here?[/QUOTE]Logic says there are two polarised solutions: bail or support the kid. In practice, this means supporting at least mum as well for 18 years. Were talking demands for food, housing, education, college, the whole nine yards. Inevitably family will see the cash rolling in and add their demands as well.

In the real world what happens is that the guy starts doing the right thing but tires of the endless claims and requests. Support slowly diminishes and after a few years it stops altogether and he's gone.

For reference, a Pinay boyfriend would have been gone the second that he heard rumours.

Likely not a popular choice but another option is to go all in and bring the kid and mum Stateside to be one happy family. Not for the faint hearted but an option if he actually likes her and she wasn't some ST hooker from a freelancer bar.

G.

PS. I forgot that in any nonbail choice a DNA check is a no brainer

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3080927]He should man up and take care of his responsibilities. The girl is about 5 months pregnant.

He should at least help with her medical and hospital bills. Which would not amount to much.

After birth do a DNA test.

DNA test confirms then do a long term monthly support program.

Report to his respective country Child Born Abroad.

Anything less he should have his balls removed.[/QUOTE]I second your points. I have a Philippina niece who had a child with an American while they were both in China, her for school, him for work. He has stepped up and has contributed, the child has an American passport. He has since married another American. He comes to see his daughter once or twice a year. Assuming DNA says he is the father he should work out the amount he will contribute ongoing and not entertain "emergencies". Mom will need to manage a budget. He will need to update support periodically. Whether she is wife material is up to him to decide.

Tried creating / activating my DIA account twice and both times it got blocked. Activation email never even came through. I'm still in North America. Is that the reason? Planning to just wait and do it when I land in Manila instead.

Also saw somewhere that they scrutinize traffic coming through VPNs, so I'm guessing there's no point trying a Manila-based VPN either. Anyone else run into this?

Just wanted to check what kind of strategies you guys usually run for line-ups. I've got a decent number of pinas already screened through a few different channels. Some from last time, some from FB, and a few through friends & family (will be trying those for the first time).

How do you normally structure the line-up on your end? Do you keep backups for the backups in case of no-shows? And do you create a spreadsheet for the line-up for the next 7 days? Right now, all those screened pinas are either in my whatsapp / TG, that I plan to meetup.

A short moment of selfish pleasure produced a huge, life-long tragedy.

Civilized people have moral obligations to never knowingly leave any children, much less their own babies, cold and hungry.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3081179]Just wanted to check what kind of strategies you guys usually run for line-ups. I've got a decent number of pinas already screened through a few different channels. Some from last time, some from FB, and a few through friends & family (will be trying those for the first time).

How do you normally structure the line-up on your end? Do you keep backups for the backups in case of no-shows? And do you create a spreadsheet for the line-up for the next 7 days? Right now, all those screened pinas are either in my whatsapp / TG, that I plan to meetup.[/QUOTE]The first and last days I schedule proven performers. This way I arrive happy and leave with a good memory. Same with restaurants. I save the best restaurant for last.

In between you can test drive new ones. Depends on how many you can handle in a day? In my advanced age I usually take a day off after 2 days on. Next trip I will arrive and leave with a 19 yo who's increasing libido is something to experience. In between will be some newbies to me.

Just do a schedule with some backups in mind. I have a 40 yo as a backup for some disappointing days who will come within an hour to fuxk and then suck and CIM to turn my day around.