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[QUOTE=Vendelo;3043080]I've noticed some girls use a Whatsapp Business account instead of the Whatsapp personal account. The only visual difference I see is the Business account does not offer video calls.

I asked Grok to delineate the differences. Here is Grok's response:

[URL]https://x.com/i/grok/share/TI1oE6TCjF1Sxzrw04vKZCHbJ[/URL]

Other than the lack of video calling, does anyone have an idea why girls select the Business account. I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]They can install WhatsApp and WhatsApp business at the same time using two different telephone numbers. This allows them to keep their private and working life separate.

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I grabbed a brewski and sat to check out the girls. Sure enough a mamasan sat next to me. I told her I just wanted a beer. She asked what was my type. I said young and skinny. She laser-points to a rail-thin girl who subsequently stands up and walks to my table.

Her teeth are totally jacked up. Cute face but will probably not age well. She sat with me and asked if I'the share my beer. Of course I said. She retrieved a mug and poured herself a nice cold one. And then another. And that's okay because I only wanted a few sips and just chill.

[/QUOTE]I very much enjoy your posts Vendelo, also never got to thank you for the tip on the 24/7 dimsum place, the dishes there aren't the best but it was cheap as chips! Pretty much a bargain no matter what you choose so no complaints at all! Otherwise if people aren't into Dim sum they also serve all kinds of fried rice and noodles. Or if you are willing to spend a little bit extra there is always a Korean restaurant with BBQ / Hotpot literally downstairs.

Also, Just wanted to see if it was a coincidence but I also met a Girl at T5 who was slim and petite but also had misaligned teeth, did her name begin with a "G" by any chance?

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3043080]I've noticed some girls use a Whatsapp Business account instead of the Whatsapp personal account. The only visual difference I see is the Business account does not offer video calls. I asked Grok to delineate the differences. Other than the lack of video calling, does anyone have an idea why girls select the Business account. I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]Grok doesn't think like a monger or a working girl. Like other AI, it is woke and doesn't have P4 P thinking built in its model.

The main reason to use WhatsApp for Business is that it can be installed on the same device alongside regular WhatsApp to maintain a "separate ledger" for P4P contacts with providers (in case of the monger) or customers (in case of a working girl). In my case, as an additional layer, I use a separate travel SIM to link to my WhatsApp Business to keep my primary number (which is linked to my regular WhatsApp) private. So when I exchange WhatsApp with P4P mamis, pimpettes and providers to build and extend my network, I always scan from WA4B. When I see notifications from WA4B, I convieniently know it is P4P related so I can ignore or attend to the message accordingly. Keeps these worlds appropriately apart. Enjoy, AR.

I plan to go raw (no condom) with girls starting next weekend, can anyone advise or suggest if I need to take any medication to avoid risks, infection.

Should I buy doxy and start now. Dosage! Terima kasih in advance.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3043183]... In my case, as an additional layer, I use a separate travel SIM to link to my WhatsApp Business to keep my primary number (which is linked to my regular WhatsApp) private...[/QUOTE]Exactly what I did and for the same reason. So if there's some bad blood between me and a P4 P contact, they can't get revenge by compromising my main phone number on the internet.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3043187]I plan to go raw (no condom) with girls starting next weekend, can anyone advise or suggest if I need to take any medication to avoid risks, infection.

Should I buy doxy and start now. Dosage! Terima kasih in advance.[/QUOTE]Doxy is neither effective nor necessary. But I highly recommend Prep for HIV.

[QUOTE=Jimmyzhu;3043180]I very much enjoy your posts Vendelo, also never got to thank you for the tip on the 24/7 dimsum place, the dishes there aren't the best but it was cheap as chips! Pretty much a bargain no matter what you choose so no complaints at all! Otherwise if people aren't into Dim sum they also serve all kinds of fried rice and noodles. Or if you are willing to spend a little bit extra there is always a Korean restaurant with BBQ / Hotpot literally downstairs.

Also, Just wanted to see if it was a coincidence but I also met a Girl at T5 who was slim and petite but also had misaligned teeth, did her name begin with a "G" by any chance?[/QUOTE]Regarding the dim sum joint, you're welcome. If the steamed pork over back fan only had salted fish! The sin jook yuen is quite good. The siu ap is average.

My T5 girl's name begins with "A. "

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3043183]Grok doesn't think like a monger or a working girl. Like other AI, it is woke and doesn't have P4 P thinking built in its model.

The main reason to use WhatsApp for Business is that it can be installed on the same device alongside regular WhatsApp to maintain a "separate ledger" for P4P contacts with providers (in case of the monger) or customers (in case of a working girl). In my case, as an additional layer, I use a separate travel SIM to link to my WhatsApp Business to keep my primary number (which is linked to my regular WhatsApp) private. So when I exchange WhatsApp with P4P mamis, pimpettes and providers to build and extend my network, I always scan from WA4B. When I see notifications from WA4B, I convieniently know it is P4P related so I can ignore or attend to the message accordingly. Keeps these worlds appropriately apart. Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation. I thought girls have two phones, one with WA and the other with WA4 B, when in fact, thanks to your explanation, they have one phone with two numbers.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3043187]I plan to go raw (no condom) with girls starting next weekend, can anyone advise or suggest if I need to take any medication to avoid risks, infection.

Should I buy doxy and start now. Dosage! Terima kasih in advance.[/QUOTE]Drink water before sexy time and try to piss right after you finish and also shower, maybe even wash Little Superlove with similar disinfectant soap the girls use.

Tinder5 came over today for a second date. She is a keeper. The GFE level is like she's actually my GF.

Tonight she informed me her brother is getting circumcised. I was curious so she said he is 9 years old. Ouch! I was surprised as I didn't expect Muslims to practice circumcision. She said it is a custom here in Indonesia. At least in the US its done at birth.

I then got a sick feeling in my stomach. I asked her if she was cut. I had seen her for the first time the night before and really didn't explore her package too closely. She said her mother told her that she, Tinder5, was cut as a baby. Fucking assholes!

She is quite naive so I educated her on the clit, G-Spot (actually a known urologist refers to it as the G Zone), orgasms, vibrators, etc. I then asked if I could explore her clit and also show her where her G Spot is located. When I palpitated for the clit, I felt a really tiny "head" supported by a pretty firm "body. " I am unsure what procedure she may have undergone based on Grok's response below to my prompt: Are girls circumcised in Indonesia) Yes, they are; read below.

This really sucks. I've been with 10+ Indo girls but never knew nor noticed if they're cut.

Does anyone have experience with circumcised Indo girls? Is it common?

Here's Grok's response:

"Yes, female genital mutilation / cutting (FGM / C), locally known as female circumcision or sunat perempuan, is practiced in Indonesia on girls, though the forms are generally milder than in some other countries.

Prevalence.

Surveys indicate that around 49-51%of girls in Indonesia undergo some form of the practice, often as infants or young children. This makes Indonesia one of the countries with the highest absolute numbers of affected girls and women globally (due to its large population), with estimates of over 60 million impacted. Prevalence varies by region:

- Higher in areas like Sulawesi (over 80% including symbolic forms), Kalimantan, and Sumatra.

- Lower in Java-Bali (around 39%.

Types of Practices.

The most common types are WHO Type I (partial or total removal of the clitoral hood) or **Type IV** (pricking, nicking, scraping, or symbolic acts like rubbing with turmeric or a light touch without cutting). Many cases are symbolic or involve minimal tissue damage, but some include actual cutting. The practice is often performed by midwives, traditional birth attendants, or health professionals, and it has become increasingly medicalized in urban areas.

Cultural and Religious Context.

It is deeply rooted in cultural traditions and perceived religious obligations, particularly among Muslim communities (Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim-majority country). Some interpret it as recommended or obligatory under certain Islamic schools of thought, though it is not mentioned in the Quran and opinions vary among scholars.

Government Policy.

The Indonesian government has taken steps to restrict it:

- A 2010 regulation initially allowed medicalized forms.

- This was later revoked.

- In 2024, Government Regulation No. 28 banned female genital mutilation / cutting, including for infants and children under five.

Efforts by organizations like UNFPA, UNICEF, religious leaders, and midwives' associations are ongoing to raise awareness and promote abandonment, recognizing it as harmful with no health benefits.

While progress is being made through education and policy, the practice persists in many communities as a social norm. International bodies like WHO and UNICEF classify all forms as harmful and a violation of rights."

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3043243]Regarding the dim sum joint, you're welcome. If the steamed pork over back fan only had salted fish! The sin jook yuen is quite good. The siu ap is average.

My T5 girl's name begins with "A. "[/QUOTE]Ah nevermind it was a different girl then.

The duck was terrible! I did order it but It was dry as hell and half of it was mostly bones, although it was cheap there wasn't much meat in it LOL.

I mostly stuffed myself with the chicken and shrimp dumplings, (Understandably it is a Muslim country so regrettably there wasn't a pork option which is a shame!

[QUOTE=Jimmyzhu;3043280]Ah nevermind it was a different girl then.

The duck was terrible! I did order it but It was dry as hell and half of it was mostly bones, although it was cheap there wasn't much meat in it LOL.

I mostly stuffed myself with the chicken and shrimp dumplings, (Understandably it is a Muslim country so regrettably there wasn't a pork option which is a shame![/QUOTE]What do you think of Indo jook (congee)? I prefer it over Canto and Chiu Chow. So flavorful with the extra sauces: sambal (chili) and santan (coconut). The peanuts add crunchy texture! The mini yow chow kwei is OK. Need ngau lei so!

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"Yes, female genital mutilation / cutting (FGM / C), locally known as female circumcision or sunat perempuan, is practiced in Indonesia on girls, though the forms are generally milder than in some other countries."[/QUOTE]Holy shit, now that you've mentioned it I've never paid any attention as most of my deeds were done in a dim setting with most of the lights turned off.

I did perform oral action on some of the girls and never took into any consideration about the size difference of their clits as I had believed that just like men, genitals would come in all shapes and different size varying from one to another.

But now that I think about it, I might have picked up a few girls that might have undergone circumcision.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3043187]I plan to go raw (no condom) with girls starting next weekend, can anyone advise or suggest if I need to take any medication to avoid risks, infection.

Should I buy doxy and start now. Dosage! Terima kasih in advance.[/QUOTE]This sounds like your 1st time going all in on the raw dog movement. Just curious, is there any particular reason that next weekend is the starting point for the raw experience?

Might be little easier to give you recommendations if you give specific STIs that your are trying to reduce. My #1 recommendation, since you asked, make a pre-emptive appointment with a specialized sexual health clinic. When you go in to see the doc, be straight up about your lifestyle. I did this when I first started mongering 3 years ago. I am an engineer by trade so I am much more analytical than most. I was very candid and open with the sexual health clinic doc. She was able to give me the science-based information for all the STIs I was at risk for and ways to mitigate each. This level of detail is the nerdy stuff I needed to choose when and when not to take calculated risks. Sending positive vibes on your raw dogging experience!

I met Tinder6 today. Very pretty but I was pimp-catfished. Early warning signs but I'm a masochist so followed through until insertion!

Anyway, I asked her if she was cut and she said yes. If you read my report below that includes a Grok response on female circumcision in Indonesia and you'll learn there are less destructive ways to circumcise a girl. I asked her if her clit was cut off and she said yes while mimicking scissors "air-cutting" with her hand. I then probed for several seconds. She wasn't aroused yet, regardless, I could not find a clit with my finger. I then searched for the hood and labia minora but she pushed my hand away. So I just hit it.

I had to flip over and rotate the bedsheet because of a lube stain. Tinder4 is coming over soon for a sleepover. I am definitely going to poke and prod to see if she's been cut.