Monterrey

FYI, they don't pad gringos, they don't frisk well known customers and yes, after a hundred thousand posts, you finally accept you were mistaken.
Your fault for believing heaven knows who.

Apologies accepted.

Now, let us analize this: "Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less"

I thought you has a couple of GFs.... so, what happened?

By the way, hurricane Alex or no Alex, prices are going up at the clubs by like 10-15, even 20% more or less.
Girls still charge the same but drinks have gone up (TKT from 25 pesos to 30 pesos a can).

Cover charges at Prestige were 70, now 80 pesos.

Film at 11


[QUOTE=Marius 67]Not even the disaster of the hurricane can stop the deadly gun battles in the streets of Monterrey. Went to infinito this weekend; they are not even padding people down anymore, not that it ever helped. Also another young lady told me no gun battles have occured inside infinito. I guess Carlos and Spongebob were right. It's still a very dangerous city; just be aware! Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less. WTF?[/QUOTE]

They only frisk me if it's a newbie bouncer...With trustees, they don't concern themselves too much. Congratulations to Marius, he has attained "trustee" status.

But, I do like the idea they're frisking people. Let them frisk. But, they should do them properly so they're effective. If a frisk is done properly, it is very difficult to hide a handgun. The very smallest 380s are still easily detected if they frisk properly.

Just keep your eyes open and you're not likely to fall victim to anything other than a serious case of larceny in the privados, and when dealing with the waiters. :-)))

Disappointed? Take heart! The pool of eligible girls is slightly off due to vacations. Most of the girls have kids, and many of them feel obligated to go to the beach, visit cousins, go back "home," etc...

Things will improve around the end of August, and into the fall months. Soon the girls will start to think about preparing for the new school year. We'll see an improvement as their desperation for money escalates to a point of realizing how they can get some quick cash.

[QUOTE=Monterreydude]FYI, they don't pad gringos, they don't frisk well known customers and yes, after a hundred thousand posts, you finally accept you were mistaken.
Your fault for believing heaven knows who.

Apologies accepted.

Now, let us analize this: "Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less"

I thought you has a couple of GFs.... so, what happened?

By the way, hurricane Alex or no Alex, prices are going up at the clubs by like 10-15, even 20% more or less.
Girls still charge the same but drinks have gone up (TKT from 25 pesos to 30 pesos a can).

Cover charges at Prestige were 70, now 80 pesos.

Film at 11[/QUOTE]

I have been going over a ton of pages in this block now and maybe I have missed the info in between the arguments.

Therefore, if someone can please help me with a quick summary I would be most grateful.

I will be going to Monterrey in 2 weeks, just stay a single night. I speak fluent spanish with very little accent as I live in another city in MX. White as an egg, though.

I will have 1 night free, maybe part of the morning. So what is the expert recommendation, Escort, massage parlor or strip club?

I will stay at the Crowne Plaza towards the center, is it GF?

I will look for a gem, if that can provide any sort of direction. Can anyone please help me with their expertise and point me in the right direction plus give an idea of what pricelevel to expect?

I shall return the favor if anyone plans to come down to Guad!

Thanks a lot.

spongebob.. no way this would occur chicago..comparing monterrey and chicago in terms of safety is almost laughable.

authorities found the remains of at least 38 people in a series of pits and rep001tered on the ground at a suspected drug-gang dumping site near the industrial hub of monterrey in northern mexico, an official said friday.

investigators were using heavy equipment to search for more bodies at the rural site outside mexico's third-largest city, local media said. photographs showed charred spots on the soil suggesting some bodies may have been partially burned.

nuevo leon state attorney general alejandro garza y garza said officials still had to inspect three more pits for bodies. he said 36 of the victims found so far are men and two are women.

the state attorney general's office in nuevo leon state, where monterrey is located, said more heavy equipment was being brought in to search the ground and pits where the remains were found.

the bodies were too badly decomposed for immediate identification, the office said.

the clandestine grave site, which was discovered thursday, was believed to have been used by drug gangs that operate in the area.

the mexican army did not offer any immediate information on how the site was detected.

nearly 25,000 people have been killed in mexico since the government launched an offensive against drug cartels in late 2006.

Everyone's taste is somewhat unique, and you didn't really mention your preferences for MPs, Strip Clubs, or Escorts. So, I will comment subjectively without any particular focus upon your own personal preferences. I am not experienced with the escorts, nor do I enjoy the MPs. So, other than to comment generally, I will leave more recently experienced specifics to another contributor.

Had I only one night, and a partial second day in Monterrey, I would put the following strip clubs on my agenda, not spending a lot of time in any one particular club, but looking for what may have potential in each, sampling them as the night progresses from about 9:30pm on. Earlier than 9:30pm is generally a waste of time, except in the lower end bars, where you can sometimes find afternoon shift girls that are pretty decent.

For me, "flitting between the clubs" means visiting them for a very brief period, like a butterfly, scoping out the talent, getting a general feel for the environment, and moving on to the next one on my list relatively quickly if the format or the selection is not to my liking. You can always scope them out and return to the ones that made an impression. But, there is enough variability between them that they are not always totally consistent night to night, week to week, month to month, etc...That's why I am often seen flitting from one to the other until I reach a conclusion as to which of them appears to be on their game for that particular night.

The bars I mention are relatively consistent in comparison to many others, but the fluctuation in quality of selection, etc...varies quite substantially in Monterrey, regardless of which ones might be recommended. Literally, you will find them to be great one night, and not so good other nights. That's a characteristic of all the bars in Monterrey...they are constantly in a state of flux.

Visit the bars in the area of Villagran and Carlos Salazar. You can walk between them. They are El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangalay, and Tengo. You are also relatively close to El Cielo on Arteaga, and to Beibis, across the street from El Cielo. El Cielo and Beibis are just to the East of Villagran and Carlos Salazar by about 4 blocks. They are all working class bars, and offer a very LOW comfort level with respect to relaxation. But, even though they are low level, some of them do have some really HOT, and cheap girls. They are not to be dismissed just because they cater to the lower classes.

Fact is, El Infinito often has girls that could easily compete with high end bar girls. I am frequently accused of steering people to El Infinito for some self serving motivation. The fact is, I steer them there because the price is outstanding for the quality of selection, and for the comparatively lower cost to take girls on salida, which is my own subjective criteria for assessing these bars. As I said, your criteria may differ.

If you prefer a more comfortable, not luxurious, but much more relaxing environment, I would recommend Casino, Pasarelas, Azul Tequilla, and Harem. They are all located within about a 5-6 block area along Avenida Madero, approximately 10-15 blocks to the East of Villagran and Madero. Some of them you can walk between, but they're not right next to each other like the working class bars I mentioned above that are located near Carlos Salazar and Villagran, which is just South of Avenida Madero and Villagran.

If you want to spend a lot of money for a high comfort level, and you enjoy the luxurious bars, more similar to what you might find in the US, you can visit Prestige, Obsession, Poisson, Amnesia, and there are several others. Just ask a taxi driver. They get commissions for bringing your there, and they'll be glad to take you to them, especially if you ask. They'll be salivating at the prospect of delivering you into their hands for a nice commission.

The prices will escalate 30-50%, maybe up to 100% more, low end to high end. With your fluency in Spanish, you will not likely be marked for scams by the girls or the waiters, no more so than you're already used to. So, you have a tremendous advantage over the Gringo visitor that has no fluency in the language and/or the customs of Mexico.

MPs are not my specialty. But, if MPs are your preference, I've been told, and I've occasionally sampled, Misses and Ramanos. They're upper level MPs, and the girls are top quality. The rest of the MPs are a crap shoot depending on the night of the week, whether the moon is full, etc...Having only one night, you simply don't have the time to visit them all to sample their quality and selection. With Ramanos and Misses, you will be assured of finding quality and selection. But, their cost will run you about $2000 pesos for approximately 45 minutes, possibly more depending on the selection. I don't frequent the MPs, and I've not been to either place for years, but the recommendations here seem to be consistent that those two places will not disappoint you, and the recommendations from other mongers that do like the MPs suggest that their quality and selection has not changed compared to my own past experience.

Compared to strip club girls, lower end girls can be taken on salida from the lower class bars for about 350 pesos, paid to the bar, + the girl's fee, which is usually between 1000 pesos and 1500 pesos, and sometimes slightly more if they are truly exceptional.

Medium level bars will cost you about 750-850 pesos for the bar fine, and the girls will ask for 1200-1500 pesos. You can still sometimes get the medium level bar girls for 1000 pesos depending on the girl.

The higher end bars are going to cost you much more for any kind of salida action. 3000-5000 pesos for the girl is not uncharacteristic if you want to take them on salida, and I am not sure what the bar fine might cost as I have NEVER done it from the higher end bars. I have, however, made dates with higher end girls, and they've not charged me more than 1000-1500 pesos when they meet me on their off time. But, that usually requires some time spent getting to know the girls first over lengths of time so that they feel safe, develop a quasi friendship with them, etc...You don't have that kind of time.

Average time spent by strip club girls is from 1.5 to 2 hours. If you want more time, you can usually pay a double salida fee to the bar, then negotiate with the girl as to her fee for extra time. But, I have often received increased time from the girl if I decide to pay a double salida fee to the bar, yielding up to 4 hours, and they don't usually charge me more. It depends on the night of the week. I believe they're much more willing to go, and not chance losing the opportunity to make 1000 pesos, when things are slow for them in the bar. Were I to proposition them with the prospect of an extended salida, ie: 4 hours or more, on a weekend night, most of them would ask more money to compensate them for their opportunity loss in the bar.

Since you live in Mexico, you are well acquainted with the risks of being in Mexico, verdad? So, I will not escalate the rhetoric concerning the dangers of Mexico by commenting any further on the hysteria propagated in this forum over the escalated dangers that do exist in Mexico.

I think the discussion concerning the dangers in Mexico, which we all agree do exist, should be off limits with respect to any future postings unless a monger has a direct experience they can personally relate as happening to them.

Hope that helps. Others can chime in with their recommendations...Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Borregos77]I have been going over a ton of pages in this block now and maybe I have missed the info in between the arguments.

Therefore, if someone can please help me with a quick summary I would be most grateful.

I will be going to Monterrey in 2 weeks, just stay a single night. I speak fluent spanish with very little accent as I live in another city in MX. White as an egg, though.

I will have 1 night free, maybe part of the morning. So what is the expert recommendation, Escort, massage parlor or strip club?

I will stay at the Crowne Plaza towards the center, is it GF?

I will look for a gem, if that can provide any sort of direction. Can anyone please help me with their expertise and point me in the right direction plus give an idea of what pricelevel to expect?

I shall return the favor if anyone plans to come down to Guad!

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Unspongebob]Everyone's taste is somewhat unique, and you didn't really mention your preferences for MPs, Strip Clubs, or Escorts. So, I will comment subjectively without any particular focus upon your own personal preferences. I am not experienced with the escorts, nor do I enjoy the MPs. So, other than to comment generally, I will leave more recently experienced specifics to another contributor.

Had I only one night, and a partial second day in Monterrey, I would put the following strip clubs on my agenda, not spending a lot of time in any one particular club, but looking for what may have potential in each, sampling them as the night progresses from about 9:30pm on. Earlier than 9:30pm is generally a waste of time, except in the lower end bars, where you can sometimes find afternoon shift girls that are pretty decent.

For me, "flitting between the clubs" means visiting them for a very brief period, like a butterfly, scoping out the talent, getting a general feel for the environment, and moving on to the next one on my list relatively quickly if the format or the selection is not to my liking. You can always scope them out and return to the ones that made an impression. But, there is enough variability between them that they are not always totally consistent night to night, week to week, month to month, etc...That's why I am often seen flitting from one to the other until I reach a conclusion as to which of them appears to be on their game for that particular night.

The bars I mention are relatively consistent in comparison to many others, but the fluctuation in quality of selection, etc...varies quite substantially in Monterrey, regardless of which ones might be recommended. Literally, you will find them to be great one night, and not so good other nights. That's a characteristic of all the bars in Monterrey...they are constantly in a state of flux.

Visit the bars in the area of Villagran and Carlos Salazar. You can walk between them. They are El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangalay, and Tengo. You are also relatively close to El Cielo on Arteaga, and to Beibis, across the street from El Cielo. El Cielo and Beibis are just to the East of Villagran and Carlos Salazar by about 4 blocks. They are all working class bars, and offer a very LOW comfort level with respect to relaxation. But, even though they are low level, some of them do have some really HOT, and cheap girls. They are not to be dismissed just because they cater to the lower classes.

Fact is, El Infinito often has girls that could easily compete with high end bar girls. I am frequently accused of steering people to El Infinito for some self serving motivation. The fact is, I steer them there because the price is outstanding for the quality of selection, and for the comparatively lower cost to take girls on salida, which is my own subjective criteria for assessing these bars. As I said, your criteria may differ.

If you prefer a more comfortable, not luxurious, but much more relaxing environment, I would recommend Casino, Pasarelas, Azul Tequilla, and Harem. They are all located within about a 5-6 block area along Avenida Madero, approximately 10-15 blocks to the East of Villagran and Madero. Some of them you can walk between, but they're not right next to each other like the working class bars I mentioned above that are located near Carlos Salazar and Villagran, which is just South of Avenida Madero and Villagran.

If you want to spend a lot of money for a high comfort level, and you enjoy the luxurious bars, more similar to what you might find in the US, you can visit Prestige, Obsession, Poisson, Amnesia, and there are several others. Just ask a taxi driver. They get commissions for bringing your there, and they'll be glad to take you to them, especially if you ask. They'll be salivating at the prospect of delivering you into their hands for a nice commission.

The prices will escalate 30-50%, maybe up to 100% more, low end to high end. With your fluency in Spanish, you will not likely be marked for scams by the girls or the waiters, no more so than you're already used to. So, you have a tremendous advantage over the Gringo visitor that has no fluency in the language and/or the customs of Mexico.

MPs are not my specialty. But, if MPs are your preference, I've been told, and I've occasionally sampled, Misses and Ramanos. They're upper level MPs, and the girls are top quality. The rest of the MPs are a crap shoot depending on the night of the week, whether the moon is full, etc...Having only one night, you simply don't have the time to visit them all to sample their quality and selection. With Ramanos and Misses, you will be assured of finding quality and selection. But, their cost will run you about $2000 pesos for approximately 45 minutes, possibly more depending on the selection. I don't frequent the MPs, and I've not been to either place for years, but the recommendations here seem to be consistent that those two places will not disappoint you, and the recommendations from other mongers that do like the MPs suggest that their quality and selection has not changed compared to my own past experience.

Compared to strip club girls, lower end girls can be taken on salida from the lower class bars for about 350 pesos, paid to the bar, + the girl's fee, which is usually between 1000 pesos and 1500 pesos, and sometimes slightly more if they are truly exceptional.

Medium level bars will cost you about 750-850 pesos for the bar fine, and the girls will ask for 1200-1500 pesos. You can still sometimes get the medium level bar girls for 1000 pesos depending on the girl.

The higher end bars are going to cost you much more for any kind of salida action. 3000-5000 pesos for the girl is not uncharacteristic if you want to take them on salida, and I am not sure what the bar fine might cost as I have NEVER done it from the higher end bars. I have, however, made dates with higher end girls, and they've not charged me more than 1000-1500 pesos when they meet me on their off time. But, that usually requires some time spent getting to know the girls first over lengths of time so that they feel safe, develop a quasi friendship with them, etc...You don't have that kind of time.

Average time spent by strip club girls is from 1.5 to 2 hours. If you want more time, you can usually pay a double salida fee to the bar, then negotiate with the girl as to her fee for extra time. But, I have often received increased time from the girl if I decide to pay a double salida fee to the bar, yielding up to 4 hours, and they don't usually charge me more. It depends on the night of the week. I believe they're much more willing to go, and not chance losing the opportunity to make 1000 pesos, when things are slow for them in the bar. Were I to proposition them with the prospect of an extended salida, ie: 4 hours or more, on a weekend night, most of them would ask more money to compensate them for their opportunity loss in the bar.

Since you live in Mexico, you are well acquainted with the risks of being in Mexico, verdad? So, I will not escalate the rhetoric concerning the dangers of Mexico by commenting any further on the hysteria propagated in this forum over the escalated dangers that do exist in Mexico.

I think the discussion concerning the dangers in Mexico, which we all agree do exist, should be off limits with respect to any future postings unless a monger has a direct experience they can personally relate as happening to them.

Hope that helps. Others can chime in with their recommendations...Good Luck![/QUOTE]See? Was that so hard? A real, meaningful post that could actually help someone coming to town. And you didn't even make him beg for it. My job is done here.

But ya had to sneak this in:

"I think the discussion concerning the dangers in Mexico, which we all agree do exist, should be off limits with respect to any future postings unless a monger has a direct experience they can personally relate as happening to them."

Stubbornly silly. So, if there's even a hint of danger in the city, we should bury our heads in the sand? We shouldn't mention what happened at the Holiday Inn because it didn't happen to us? LOL. You are still insisting that people come to town with blinders on.

But, good job, overall. You're trying and that's what counts. I'm done here, finished with dealing with the drama.

And I graciously accept Monterreydude's apology despite him not being man enough to issue one for his horribly self-important and dismissive tone whenever dealing with someone who won't meet with him personally or allow themselves to be talked down to...I know his type, work with them daily. Pure bully. Not an ounce of man in their souls...all children.

Thanks you unsponge, this was a great summary that I shall put to the test. I will take your suggestion and try the clubs as you suggest and report back on the adventure. Again, thank you very much for sharing.

Guys, I had a close call, but in the sense that I had close call with a stroke.

Had a stressfull couple of past days, so I guess that would be the reason.

I'll be around though. Taking it easy.
Anyway, doctors orders, no clubs for a while. No bowling (that is going to kill me), nothing on being virtual, so that at least is a plus.

Yeah, club life isn't particularly good when trying to take it easy...Hope you are doing better, and we will see your return in the near future.

[QUOTE=Monterreydude]Guys, I had a close call, but in the sense that I had close call with a stroke.

Had a stressfull couple of past days, so I guess that would be the reason.

I'll be around though. Taking it easy.
Anyway, doctors orders, no clubs for a while. No bowling (that is going to kill me), nothing on being virtual, so that at least is a plus.[/QUOTE]

I was glad to be of assistance believing the gentleman to be legitimate in his inquiry. I will always respond to a legitimate inquiry. I responded not to entertain the hordes of trolls that might be lurking in the background, but in response to someone's request for specific information. I no longer typically write "reports." It's too much work.

I commented about the dangers to illustrate that anyone living in Mexico must contend with it's dangers. The gentleman said he lives in Mexico, and he is fluent in the language, and quite familiar with it's customs. He has little choice about whether to be in Mexico or not. And, truth be known, most Mexicanos would rather die than leave their beloved Mexico, even with the problems that Mexico endures these days.

I sometimes feel like I would rather die than leave my beloved Monterrey. The choice is living an arguably safer existence in the US, under it's draconian, sexually inhibited cultural restrictions, laws, and sexo-social feminazi idiology, or having almost unlimited access to beautiful, willing, nubile, hot Mexican Girls, without all the BS inhibitions found in the USA. Believe me, a safe existence in the USA, from that perspective, is NO TRADE...I will risk death, yes, death...sex is really high on the list of motivators, verdad?

The point is, the gentleman is mongering, and he has little choice about whether he has the luxury of hiding under his bed in the USA. That was the point of my comments relative to the dangers, that there are millions upon millions living their daily lives in Mexico, living life, and a few of them end up murdered by drug dealers, most of them directly involved in the drug trade.

And, here is the BIG Question of the day Chesterboy...Where were your recommendations for the Gentleman?????? You said you have lived here for six years. But, you seem to have nothing to contribute with respect to legitimate knowledge when there's a legitimate inquiry.

Honestly, I was waiting for your contributions. And, that's why I mentioned at the beginning of my post that other members could guide the gentleman with respect to escort services and MPs. I thought that was your venue of choice, that you had expertise with the escorts...There was your open invitation to contribute your wealth of knowledge.

I invited anyone with knowledge of those other venues, or of the strip clubs for that matter, to comment. Yet, even as you represent yourself as a local resident and knowledgeable about the escorts, we heard nothing from you...why is that?

And, that is the last comment I will make on the subject...These exchanges with you are beginning to bore me, and I'm sure they are equally boring to the other forum members.

But, I had to tell Monterreydude to get well, and in the course of signing on, I decided to take the time to titillate the trolls. Fact is, I am starting to believe that you miss me...I am going dark again. So long...

[QUOTE=Chester Boy]See? Was that so hard? A real, meaningful post that could actually help someone coming to town. And you didn't even make him beg for it. My job is done here.

But ya had to sneak this in:

"I think the discussion concerning the dangers in Mexico, which we all agree do exist, should be off limits with respect to any future postings unless a monger has a direct experience they can personally relate as happening to them."

Stubbornly silly. So, if there's even a hint of danger in the city, we should bury our heads in the sand? We shouldn't mention what happened at the Holiday Inn because it didn't happen to us? LOL. You are still insisting that people come to town with blinders on.

But, good job, overall. You're trying and that's what counts. I'm done here, finished with dealing with the drama.

And I graciously accept Monterreydude's apology despite him not being man enough to issue one for his horribly self-important and dismissive tone whenever dealing with someone who won't meet with him personally or allow themselves to be talked down to...I know his type, work with them daily. Pure bully. Not an ounce of man in their souls...all children.[/QUOTE]

TROLLLLLLL...............

[QUOTE=Rapid1505]Seriously, I went back some pages on this forum, but I just found long ramblings by a handful of people, but nothing related the main topic of this forum.

Looks like I am not going to be having any fun in Monterey, thanks to the assholes on this forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Looks like I am not going to be having any fun in Monterey, thanks to the assholes on this forum.[/QUOTE] Forum members should not have anything to do with whether you have any fun in Monterrey.

From one asshole to a monger with only 5 posts, ask your questions on Monterrey.

We will be glad to help you out


[QUOTE=Rapid1505]Seriously, I went back some pages on this forum, but I just found long ramblings by a handful of people, but nothing related the main topic of this forum.

Looks like I am not going to be having any fun in Monterey, thanks to the assholes on this forum.[/QUOTE]

By the way, some friends told me there were a nifty amount of Americans at Infinito thursday night.
Anyone from this forum???? I was told that one went up with Syria.

[QUOTE=Rapid1505] topic of this forum.
Looks like I am not going to be having any fun in Monterey,.[/QUOTE]

Won't be anyone's fault but your'n.