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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2513928]1000 brl is still only 250 usd. A porn star will charge 1000 usd.[/QUOTE]Elisa Sanches charged me surprisingly low prices. Like the equivalent of $50 USD per hour. And she absolutely was not a clock watcher, and was really chill. We talked about a lot of stuff as well as had sexual relations. I learned how little she makes from most of her scenes. Like $100! Especially when she was working in Mexico.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513991]Monte Carlo doesn't ask for 600 an hour for the garotas. It's about half that if I remember correctly. The room adds to the cost. That's what a terma is for though. They provide you everything and hire hookers who do a good job (or at least that's the idea).[/QUOTE]Nope, 600 sounds about right AI.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2513985]What tickles me is that there are guys reporting going to Monte Carlo and other termas and spending more money. [/QUOTE]Sure, but what's R600 today? Around $115? More than a simple fuck in Rio, but I don't go to a terma for a quick fuck. Mingling with almost naked beauties, rubbing against their bodies, them rubbing against you, taking your sweet time, having a drink with their hands all over you before heading out for a practically guaranteed quality fuck. Well, call me a romantic.
I want to avoid being overcharged; however, I'm more than happy to pay to the market price. In my opinion, the best price arbitrage is between countries: for instance, go to PI for the cheapest fucks instead haggling in Dubai. However, the market in RJ is less straightforward than AC, Pattaya, Sosua, etc., especially as an outsider. Its possible to easily find many girls offering a fuck for 100 reais or less in the same market as luxury escorts demanding 600 reais for the same fuck. For my upcoming trip, I've been doing some additional price discovery. I can access two of the GP* forums and read translations of the TDs posted by punters. Also, I've been zapping the girls directly.
The biggest difference that I've noticed is on pernoite. Generally, a garota on BarraVIP, RioSexSite, or P55 will quote 300-600/ HR. But their per noite ranges from 1500 up to 3000 for 6-9 hrs. RJ seems to have a price premium. The quotes are higher than other areas that I've checked, SP and BH, for both hourly and per noite. On the other hand, I know of at least one English-fluent garota in RJ who wants 400/ HR but only 1000/ nt and provides great service and could easily post on an escort site in terms of looks.
It seems that the only way to find deals is to stay in the market. However, price research is its own job that diverts me from my real world priorities. It too has diminishing returns. I've rarely had poor quality service from a Brasileira as compared to a Dominican or Colombian. I'll try again in February, to find something satisfactory (even memorable) w / o breaking the market.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514048]Sure, but what's R600 today? Around $115? More than a simple fuck in Rio, but I don't go to a terma for a quick fuck. Mingling with almost naked beauties, rubbing against their bodies, them rubbing against you, taking your sweet time, having a drink with their hands all over you before heading out for a practically guaranteed quality fuck. Well, call me a romantic.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. A terma is so much more than a simple fuck. All the things you mentioned that you partake in before and after boning the chick are what make a Terma visit special. Something every guy should experience in their life. Only other place similar is the FKKs which are great (but they don't have Brasilenas).
Hope this helps some.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514041]Nope, 600 sounds about right AI.[/QUOTE]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.
Exactly.
Amateurs study sex.
Professionals study logistics.
Real insiders study personnel.
Which is why locals go to termas and get numbers.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2514069]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2514069]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's what you meant?
Sure, but why unbundle those? Do I care where my money goes after it leaves my wallet?
Admittedly, the locals rarely take girls to the room. They just load on cheap grab-ass entertainment and probably collect numbers from the girls.
[QUOTE=Combo;2514067]Totally agree. A terma is so much more than a simple fuck. All the things you mentioned that you partake in before and after boning the chick are what make a Terma visit special. Something every guy should experience in their life. Only other place similar is the FKKs which are great (but they don't have Brasilenas).[/QUOTE]Yep, and while the FKK quality is higher, so are the prices, and the girls tend to be more mechanical (or so I've heard).
An even cheaper option would be Bogota swing clubs as narrated by Routard. I'm not a swinger, but it seems that their setup would include some house girls, too, so not totally unlike termas.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514097]Oh, that's what you meant?
Sure, but why unbundle those? Do I care where my money goes after it leaves my wallet?
[/QUOTE]I was making a point that a terma girl does not make 600 reals. She makes half that. So a garota at Mabs asking for 600+ reals is a bit much. Also, if you take two girls to the room you only pay for the one room (I did that a couple of times). Monte Carlo has a laminated sheet they can show you at the reception that details how the fees are broken down.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514097]
Admittedly, the locals rarely take girls to the room. They just load on cheap grab-ass entertainment and probably collect numbers from the girls.
[/QUOTE]They get one day off a week and pay a fee if they need to take additional days. That fee is to secure their place. Evidently a lot of garotas want to work at termas but don't get to. At least this is what I've been told. I only got to bang a terma girl outside the terma on her day off, otherwise she wanted 200 reals just to cover her day off fee along with whatever else she charged.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2514012]Elisa Sanches charged me surprisingly low prices. Like the equivalent of $50 USD per hour. And she absolutely was not a clock watcher, and was really chill. We talked about a lot of stuff as well as had sexual relations. I learned how little she makes from most of her scenes. Like $100! Especially when she was working in Mexico.[/QUOTE]Porn doesn't pay. Piracy has really diminished what porn actresses get paid. Even American porn actresses have to have side hustles. The top USA Stars can tour strip clubs, hit Dubai for some big escort cash and maybe sell some shit. Many girls just have to hustle as an escort. Some girls just seem to do it for awhile for the fame.
Anyways, private web shows seem like an interesting way for the girls to make some cash.
I always have a blast in termas. I highly recommend them. While it's good to understand the economics, paying 300 reais for a room that you use for an hour is still a premium you pay for the girl at the termas. I don't think anyone would say bar fines in Asia weren't part of the cost for the girl even though it goes to the go-go bar.
The more useful idea is getting phone numbers of termas girls. While logistics and reliability are a factor, inviting termas girls over has been very satisfying for me. Performance is usually very good in the termas cabine. It can be even better if you establish a connection and have multiple sessions outside the termas. I have had a couple termas girls just hang out after and go to lunch or the beach.
By the way, since Termas 4 x 4 was closed on weekends. It was easier to schedule a 4 x4 girl.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2514318]By the way, since Termas 4 x 4 was closed on weekends. It was easier to schedule a 4 x4 girl.[/QUOTE]It seems that the 4 X 4 has reopened? To confirm.
Guys,
I moved to Sao Paolo from Rio yesterday due to already having booked accommodation here.
But looks like in Sao Paolo they have different Covid measures and soon will close everything which is not essential.
Don't know how is situation with termas but already no any alcohol served in bars after 8:00 pm.
So far I prefer Rio much more. Sao Paolo is too hectic, big, dangerous.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2514619]Guys,
I moved to Sao Paolo from Rio yesterday due to already having booked accommodation here.
But looks like in Sao Paolo they have different Covid measures and soon will close everything which is not essential.
Don't know how is situation with termas but already no any alcohol served in bars after 8:00 pm.
So far I prefer Rio much more. Sao Paolo is too hectic, big, dangerous.[/QUOTE]Well damn, there goes my planned trip in Jan. Please update us on the situations there. Thanks.