Monterrey

I'm convinced that what we're dealing with here is likely some pimple faced kid sitting in their parent's basement on daddy's computer hoping to wack-off at any titillating trip reports he can find. And/or possibly someone interesting in playing the troll, enjoying the controversy they create by attempting to stir up legitimate members.

That's the maturity level being displayed by these most recent, formerly non-existent members.

These trolls have no intention of making the trip to Monterrey until they can shave, are out of the house, and they certainly don't live here in Monterrey. Frankly, I doubt if the offending persons have driver's licenses and can pull the car out of daddy's garage.

Literally, I have never heard of any legitimate adult male, and certainly no legitimate monger having an attitude that they'll have "no fun" due to our not posting titillating stories for them to jack off to.

Clearly, there is NO lack of information here. And, we are so easily available to answer any legitimate questions they may have with respect to helping them navigate that to represent they are not going to have any fun when coming to Monterrey is ridiculous.

No....The issue for them is that there is a lack of titillating stories they can jack-off to, and that's what motivates their rhetoric. No member is responsible to provide them with entertainment. Fact is, we have posted trip reports and recommendations by the hundreds over the years, just not the kind they can jack-off to.

Frankly, those of us that dabble in this all the time just don't care anymore about some BS story about what some monger did on his holiday vacation. In other words, some of us are not entertained by how many pops, whose ass they screwed, how long a dong they have, and/or their little catchy formula phrases so typically used by them, the little abbreviations, etc...which is what they've been seeking.

They haven't found the "titillation" they seek, and they're lashing out at us...we, of course, owe them nothing. We are regular members like everybody else. We don't provide specific details. We provide logistical assistance, and that's it. We learned long ago that specific details only serves to sabotage our own fun, period, not to mention that we are bored by the hot dog, self aggrandizing stories. We are mature in the hobby, verdad?

What about the reports from the guys that post here with their legitimate recommendations about the MPs and Escorts on a regular basis? They ain't chicken feed. And, they do so right along side the strip club guys. There is some very recent postings in the MP and Escort threads by the guys that legitimately post here regularly, guys that frequent those venues all the time. So, what are these trolls talking about, no information????? What about the MP and Escort postings? Why is it always our responsibility for their supposedly being no information for them to jack-off to.

We are always quick to come to the aid of anyone who is actually looking for logistical assistance and for generalized recommendations, as I just recently demonstrated by posting a detailed recommendation for "fun" just a few posts ago. So, the charge that there is no useful information here for pages and pages is total BS.

Is what I posted about club recommendations just a few posts ago useless information to the legitimate monger? Of course NOT! But, to the troll looking to wack-off, or wanting only to stir controversy, our contributions are simply not sufficient for them. And, I might point out, under the reports of distinction thread, there is information available to the legitimate monger looking for more specific logistical details if they're just too "frightened" to ask publicly in the forum.

What has been the issue, and has caused such controversy, isn't a lack of information or willingness to respond when asked for the kind of logistical help that will facilitate their mongering, but an attempt by the trolls to post misleading information, strictly for the purpose of causing controversy.

The unfortunate reality is, if it continues, those of us that do post might just begin to suspect that what we would have interpreted as legitimate inquiries in the past, we now suspect are just BS trolls representing themselves as legitimate mongers looking for information.

In my case, I am already suspicious that such foolishness is what has been going on most recently already. We may just decide that responding, even to what we would have otherwise thought were legitimate requests, might just be a total waste of time. After all, it's some work to write thoughtful recommendations, or relate information they can use to have fun. And, we don't owe anyone anything. We do NOT earn money from this site, nor are we affiliated with the biz in Monterrey.

So, If we begin to believe we are always just dealing with trolls, or enemies with some hidden agenda, and that our recommendations are for entertainment purposes only, or to antagonize us for antagonism's sake, then why put forth the effort.

Perhaps we need to screen all future inquiries to establish their legitimacy. Perhaps through the PM system, or perhaps we need to only provide information to mongers that give us specifics about when they'll be arriving so we can meet them in person, etc...I don't know the answer to separating the trolls from the many legitimate mongers we've met that actually do travel to Monterrey and go with us to the clubs personally. Maybe we only provide them details when we confirm that they're actually in Monterrey, and only then.

Some of us may just decide that the ratio of trolls to legitimate mongers is so large that to respond to what we would have otherwise thought were legitimate inquiries, are actually just trolls looking to wack-off in daddy's basement. In that case, it's likely that some might decide that the effort at responding to them with any useful information at all just "ain't" worth the BS without first confirming in some way that they are legitimate mongers.

In defense of mtydude and unspongebob, I mostly lurk and all my questions have been answered and the answers have been helpful. I've asked about other clubs besides infinito and have been given a list of suggestions. I have not met either, but they have always been helpful.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob]I'm convinced that what we're dealing with here is likely some pimple faced kid sitting in their parent's basement on daddy's computer hoping to wack-off at any titillating trip reports he can find. And/or possibly someone interesting in playing the troll, enjoying the controversy they create by attempting to stir up legitimate members.

That's the maturity level being displayed by these most recent, formerly non-existent members.

These trolls have no intention of making the trip to Monterrey until they can shave, are out of the house, and they certainly don't live here in Monterrey. Frankly, I doubt if the offending persons have driver's licenses and can pull the car out of daddy's garage.

Literally, I have never heard of any legitimate adult male, and certainly no legitimate monger having an attitude that they'll have "no fun" due to our not posting titillating stories for them to jack off to.

Clearly, there is NO lack of information here. And, we are so easily available to answer any legitimate questions they may have with respect to helping them navigate that to represent they are not going to have any fun when coming to Monterrey is ridiculous.

No....The issue for them is that there is a lack of titillating stories they can jack-off to, and that's what motivates their rhetoric. No member is responsible to provide them with entertainment. Fact is, we have posted trip reports and recommendations by the hundreds over the years, just not the kind they can jack-off to.

Frankly, those of us that dabble in this all the time just don't care anymore about some BS story about what some monger did on his holiday vacation. In other words, some of us are not entertained by how many pops, whose ass they screwed, how long a dong they have, and/or their little catchy formula phrases so typically used by them, the little abbreviations, etc...which is what they've been seeking.

They haven't found the "titillation" they seek, and they're lashing out at us...we, of course, owe them nothing. We are regular members like everybody else. We don't provide specific details. We provide logistical assistance, and that's it. We learned long ago that specific details only serves to sabotage our own fun, period, not to mention that we are bored by the hot dog, self aggrandizing stories. We are mature in the hobby, verdad?

What about the reports from the guys that post here with their legitimate recommendations about the MPs and Escorts on a regular basis? They ain't chicken feed. And, they do so right along side the strip club guys. There is some very recent postings in the MP and Escort threads by the guys that legitimately post here regularly, guys that frequent those venues all the time. So, what are these trolls talking about, no information????? What about the MP and Escort postings? Why is it always our responsibility for their supposedly being no information for them to jack-off to.

We are always quick to come to the aid of anyone who is actually looking for logistical assistance and for generalized recommendations, as I just recently demonstrated by posting a detailed recommendation for "fun" just a few posts ago. So, the charge that there is no useful information here for pages and pages is total BS.

Is what I posted about club recommendations just a few posts ago useless information to the legitimate monger? Of course NOT! But, to the troll looking to wack-off, or wanting only to stir controversy, our contributions are simply not sufficient for them. And, I might point out, under the reports of distinction thread, there is information available to the legitimate monger looking for more specific logistical details if they're just too "frightened" to ask publicly in the forum.

What has been the issue, and has caused such controversy, isn't a lack of information or willingness to respond when asked for the kind of logistical help that will facilitate their mongering, but an attempt by the trolls to post misleading information, strictly for the purpose of causing controversy.

The unfortunate reality is, if it continues, those of us that do post might just begin to suspect that what we would have interpreted as legitimate inquiries in the past, we now suspect are just BS trolls representing themselves as legitimate mongers looking for information.

In my case, I am already suspicious that such foolishness is what has been going on most recently already. We may just decide that responding, even to what we would have otherwise thought were legitimate requests, might just be a total waste of time. After all, it's some work to write thoughtful recommendations, or relate information they can use to have fun. And, we don't owe anyone anything. We do NOT earn money from this site, nor are we affiliated with the biz in Monterrey.

So, If we begin to believe we are always just dealing with trolls, or enemies with some hidden agenda, and that our recommendations are for entertainment purposes only, or to antagonize us for antagonism's sake, then why put forth the effort.

Perhaps we need to screen all future inquiries to establish their legitimacy. Perhaps through the PM system, or perhaps we need to only provide information to mongers that give us specifics about when they'll be arriving so we can meet them in person, etc...I don't know the answer to separating the trolls from the many legitimate mongers we've met that actually do travel to Monterrey and go with us to the clubs personally. Maybe we only provide them details when we confirm that they're actually in Monterrey, and only then.

Some of us may just decide that the ratio of trolls to legitimate mongers is so large that to respond to what we would have otherwise thought were legitimate inquiries, are actually just trolls looking to wack-off in daddy's basement. In that case, it's likely that some might decide that the effort at responding to them with any useful information at all just "ain't" worth the BS without first confirming in some way that they are legitimate mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monterreydude]From one asshole to a monger with only 5 posts, ask your questions on Monterrey.

We will be glad to help you out[/QUOTE]Yup, point taken - only 5 posts, I have. I was in Monterrey only for 2 nights, and so was looking for info already on the forum to quickly come up with my plan there. I am guessing asking wouldn't have resulted in information in quick time - but based on how quickly i got lambasted for my comment, i guess i should've tried.

Thanks for the invite though - next time i will ask, rather than rant.

To the other guy, who thinks that i am pimply kid in my parents basement - well, take a look at the reports that i do have in this forum. I am guessing that you have some illness which results in the continuous verbal diarrhea that you subject everyone on this forum to. Please see a doctor.

Lets remember that your comments, calling regular contributors assholes, was the first shot. I mean, after all, it isn't like your comments were particularly nice. Calling people assholes is a really wonderful way to solicit their assistance.

I was perfectly justified. Not only that, ask anyone, but my post criticizing your rudeness was quite short in comparison to what I'm capable of, and certainly with respect to what you deserve.

So, you spent two days in Monterrey, but you apparently feel no obligation to post anything other than insults, even after calling the regulars here "assholes" for, according to you, not having done the very same thing you accuse us of.

My most recent post, #2211, was posted on 7/24/2010, and it gave detailed recommendations of where you could find some FUN in Monterrey. I guess you were too lazy to check back two pages, right?

So, is the purpose of your posting here just to insult, and cause controvery, or do you have anything to contribute...or are you just a moocher?

This guy is the problem...he calls the regular contributors assholes, ostensibly for not supplying him with information, information that's in plain view not two pages back, sufficient certainly to entertain anyone for two days in Monterrey, but he is too damned lazy to look for it, or to ask. That's assuming he's legit...From my perspective, he contributes NOTHING other than insults and controversy, and he didn't have the decency to read one page back for recommendations. I think I had him properly pegged the first time.

What is the definition of a troll again?

"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory messages in an online community with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."


[QUOTE=Rapid1505]Yup, point taken - only 5 posts, I have. I was in Monterrey only for 2 nights, and so was looking for info already on the forum to quickly come up with my plan there. I am guessing asking wouldn't have resulted in information in quick time - but based on how quickly i got lambasted for my comment, i guess i should've tried.

Thanks for the invite though - next time i will ask, rather than rant.

To the other guy, who thinks that i am pimply kid in my parents basement - well, take a look at the reports that i do have in this forum. I am guessing that you have some illness which results in the continuous verbal diarrhea that you subject everyone on this forum to. Please see a doctor.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Unspongebob]Lets remember that your comments, calling regular contributors assholes, was the first shot. I mean, after all, it isn't like your comments were particularly nice. Calling people assholes is a really wonderful way to solicit their assistance.[/QUOTE]Oh alright. I was just reacting. I did go back a couple of pages, but can you blame me for not reading carefully through each post if they are so long, and the first few I read had little to do with recommendations for Monterrey?

But seriously, this is the only thread that i have been to where there is so much content that is not related the primary purpose of why most people visit these threads.

I am sorry to have made the post I made, but minus the strong words, I maintain the main message in that post.

Ok, fair enough...no hard feelings here. What you must understand is that Monterrey is NOT Thailand, which appears to be the subject of your previous posts. As you are probably now aware, Monterrey is a far cry from Thailand. Monterrey is a sex entertainment venue, and not a mongering destination. So, you see a different level of participation within this forum than you have likely experienced on the Thailand forums and sites.

That having been said, we sometimes go for weeks with nothing posted here. We have many lurkers, some of which we know personally, and have enjoyed mongering with them when they come to town. But, few people post their experiences here...which is fine.

But, to keep the forum viable, we regulars sometimes engage in relatively meaningless banter so we will know we're all still alive. And, frankly, we have our share of instigators. Frankly, I believe most of them are simply bored shitless with the forum being so dead. Rather than continue to lurk, or remain silent, or contribute some substantive information, some prefer to stir the shit, apparently not really having any substantive information to contribute either. So, we have that element to deal with, while also trying to be as open and accommodating to those that are actually coming here and need information.

We welcome other reports, WE CRAVE THEM...but there simply aren't many legitimate contributors. We have a LOT of complainers that contribute nothing of substance, and can not seemingly tolerate the forum as it exists, yet they contribute little or nothing themselves. We wish they would.

Many guys are just like you are, they come to town, they sometimes ask their questions within the forum, but the majority send us PMs, and at their request, we address their questions privately. They get their answers, but few post their actual experiences.

So, that's why you see a lot of banter between regular posters. The regulars are the ones that do actually know something about the venue, and we do post it, gladly. But, truthfully, we have posted the same stuff so many hundreds of times over the last ten years that we just can't keep posting the same stuff all the time. It's just too redundant. So, we wait for mongers to ask us questions when they're planning to come to town.

Ok, so if you come back, you now have an explanation as to why you see so much chatter, and you know the best way to get good, timely information to enhance your stay. If you need recommendations, we're usually pretty quick to jump on it, provided we are asked nicely, and provided we aren't antagonized to the point of mistakenly categorizing you as a troll, or as one of the instigators hiding behind clandestine screen names, trolls in sheep's clothing.

Hope you had some fun anyway!

[QUOTE=Rapid1505]Oh alright. I was just reacting. I did go back a couple of pages, but can you blame me for not reading carefully through each post if they are so long, and the first few I read had little to do with recommendations for Monterrey?

But seriously, this is the only thread that i have been to where there is so much content that is not related the primary purpose of why most people visit these threads.

I am sorry to have made the post I made, but minus the strong words, I maintain the main message in that post.[/QUOTE]

And I also maintain that you should have had the patience to ask your questions.
Not just come in and wield a sword against us. That is why USB reacted as he did.

But honestly speaking, that's why we assholes are here. To point your way to the best in Monterrey.

Anyway, may we ask for a Monterrey report from you?
Anything good, anything you yourself can or not recomend that you found in your trip???

I mean, in a good meaning of the word, stop pointing and be a real monger and report.
Don't be part of the bunch that just takes advantage of the links, club references, names, places and then they go there and give nothing in return.

Like I said, I was informed that last thursday-friday a good amount of Americans visited Infinito.
I would like to know if they are from this forum.


PS: I might go back to mongering this week!!!! Not doctors orders, but he gave me a nice clean bill of health.
Only problem and he's right, I must avoid stressfull environments and the clubs are STRESSFULL!!!





[QUOTE=Rapid1505]Oh alright. I was just reacting. I did go back a couple of pages, but can you blame me for not reading carefully through each post if they are so long, and the first few I read had little to do with recommendations for Monterrey?

But seriously, this is the only thread that i have been to where there is so much content that is not related the primary purpose of why most people visit these threads.

I am sorry to have made the post I made, but minus the strong words, I maintain the main message in that post.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monterreydude]I must avoid stressfull environments[/QUOTE]

That's rich!!!! I guess you will be moving to the US, a place devoid of any stress? At the risk of stirring up our mascots, Mexico isn't particularly a relaxing panacea of tranquility these days. :-)))) But, the reality is, neither is the US. It certainly has it's aggravating elements.

So, the clubs are actually the exact prescription for you. Immediately resume your clubbing, and take a quadruple dose to counteract the effects of stress injected daily life, verdad?

The clubs are NOT to be avoided as our mascots love to suggest, but they are literally our shelter, our sanctuary, our haven, our REFUGE. They'll keep you healthy, happy, pacified, and "satiated."

Well, main problem at the clubs is the smoke.
Too much smoke coming from cigarettes. That's the main problem.


[QUOTE=Unspongebob]That's rich!!!! I guess you will be moving to the US, a place devoid of any stress? At the risk of stirring up our mascots, Mexico isn't particularly a relaxing panacea of tranquility these days. :-)))) But, the reality is, neither is the US. It certainly has it's aggravating elements.

So, the clubs are actually the exact prescription for you. Immediately resume your clubbing, and take a quadruple dose to counteract the effects of stress injected daily life, verdad?

The clubs are NOT to be avoided as our mascots love to suggest, but they are literally our shelter, our sanctuary, our haven, our REFUGE. They'll keep you healthy, happy, pacified, and "satiated."[/QUOTE]

Lets see, you were too drunk to do anything. And if you didn't do anything, how can you have much of an opinion?

I suggest that next time, you simply get drunk in a regular bar. You're right, why spend money on girls in any bar? After all, you are too drunk to enjoy them, right?

So, yes, you should just stick to the regular bars, not spend any money on the girls. That way you'll save your money in the privados, etc...after all, your focus is just getting drunk. So, why waste your time and money.

Or even better yet, why don't you just rent one of those blow up dolls, get a case of Tecate...you'll be all set. LOL

This is kind of intresting cause I have mentioned it sometimes while posting, other times while talking to the mongers: tourist traps... even for locals.

There are a certain amount of clubs that sway a little way into the "tourist trap" lable.
What I mean by that are clubs that will try to "rob" you while not caring if it will damage the business.

Main club that does this is Obsession.
While a favorite of mine for the lunch buffette, I never try going at the night shift there. Girls will double team you, act dumb and order double size drinks (double price too), the waiters will not tell you anything related to how much your tab has inflated to global proportions.
And by the time you order the check, you have been scammed. And there is no way on Earth that you will knock of drinks of the tab you never ordered and so on.

Next in line are the nefarious La Coneja and El Chocolate.
La Coneja, formerly La Zota, was world famous in Monterrey for dealing and whealing you even before setting foot inside the club.
Guys at the door charging an non existing cover charge, Getting a tab like fore example beers for 40 pesos when a sign clearly says they cost 30 pesos.
And on top of that, the waiter will charge you 50 pesos cause that will include his tip.

Same at El Chocolate, where the waiters will fume if you don't buy drinks for the girls or accept a girl that they bring to you.

At both la Coneja and El Chocolate, the waiters go through the roof when I order only one "agua mineral... no lemon or salt". Worse when I tell them that I am checking the girls, no money for them

Lastly but not least, Azul Tequila. You have to be a customer or know the waiters or they will charge you till you go blind with drinks if they more or less see you are drunk.
One time at Azul Tequila the waiter charged me 50 pesos for a 30 pesos "agua mineral", I just told him stright foward, "what? you think am a newbie or what????".
Went away pissed, mad, angry, whatever... but I did tip him 10 pesos, which more or less left him perplexed, told him I am a good with those that are straight with me.
Never saw him again, anyway.

I just wonder, if they do these to locals, what will be of the mongers coming to Monterrey???
Any of these has happened to you guys????

[QUOTE=Monterreydude]Any of these has happened to you guys????[/QUOTE]

The most recent trend I've noticed is the bouncers hanging around the outside of the bars begging for tips. They are now found wandering between bars that are owned by the same people. One minute they're outside of beybi's, the next they are outside of Tengo, etc...They are boisterous and have displayed a certain level of "intimidation" with respect to begging for tips that I have never witnessed before in Monterrey, almost a taunting that suggests you owe them something. It goes beyond a polite request for tips, and borders on a disrespectful, potentially confrontational kind of approach on their part. Mind you, they have done absolutely nothing to deserve anything in the way of tips. Those that are experienced in Monterrey can handle it, but those that are infrequent, or first time, visitors might just find them to be a little over bearing to the point of feeling slightly intimidated by them.

Another example is a very common attempt to switch, for example, a 200 pesos bill to a 20 pesos bill, and to attempt to make you believe that you handed them only 20 pesos as payment on your tab. They will attempt it if they don't know you, or if the waiter is new, and they fail to realize you're not a newbie. Certainly, if you are a newbie visitor, make sure you make a spectacle of yourself to the extent that you exaggerate the fact that you are handing them a 200 peso bill, or whatever the denomination peso bill it may be that you're handing them.

Reforma Door Girls are quite enticing at times. Seriously, some of them really look pretty good standing out there. I frequently pass by them on the way to the Money Changer on the same block. I really mean that...But, for the serious monger here, the rest of this post is basically facetious sarcasm to counteract the trolls.

Anyway, from my perspective, the experience leaves a lot to be desired on Reforma. But, a "serious" recommendation was requested in the forum, and I am only toooooo glad to be of service.

Not too long ago, I decided after a long absence, to give one of the Reforma girls a try. The price is cheap for those that don't enjoy the club scene.

For those that find clubs like El Infinito too "dreary," and, oh yes, those overly priced 50 peso privados, and expensive 50 peso drinks, are so damned expensive, etc...

I mean, if you just want quick relief, the Reforma Girls are better than your hand. Well, not to me, but there are many different preferences here in the forum...so.

As an alternative for all mongers that do not favor the bars, and especially those that are outclassed by the lower end bars, finding them just too expensive, the door girls on Reforma are your only good potential option.

They will take you to a room in their nearby hotel, close to the alley where you'll see them standing. The rooms are not air conditioned, so you'll sweat like a pig the entire time you're there.

But, the price is right, and you don't have to even talk to them. So, you don't need to worry about whether you're on your game, you don't need any personality, or charm, cleanliness, etc...or much money...and you can be as drunk as you want to be and still feel like you're getting a bargain.

You just pay the money, around 400 pesos, plus this, plus that, etc... You see, they enjoy throwing various add-ons to the price which the mamasan will perpetrate upon you.

You'll get about 15 minutes of the 30 minutes promised, as they'll rush you along, asking you continually if you're finished yet.

And, of course, you might want to also shower, and you should also dispose of your garmets, when you get back to your hotel room because the beds in the rooms off of Reforma are...well, lets just say they aren't clean.

I mean, you don't want to pick up any bed bugs, or parasites, etc...And, seriously, maybe 15 minutes is about 10 minutes too long a time to be visiting there, with all the potential varmints you might possibly be picking up by merely sitting on the edge of the bed. So, getting 15 minutes instead of the 30 minutes promised is fine with me.

And, of course, you're on their turf, and there is no control of your personal belongings. You put your stuff in your shoe like you're on the beach, and you will need to keep an eye on your "honey" constantly, watching that she doesn't start to go through your stuff looking for a five-fingered propina, etc...

I guess that's what you're relegated to if the lower end bars, the El Infinitos of the world, are just too rich for your blood. 'Cause really, it ain't gonna be any cheaper at the decent MPs, and the lower MPs aren't any cheaper or more comfortable than the Reforma scene, nor are you gonna get any more time out of them.

And, of course, you can try an escort, but there aren't any cheap ones. Escorts are way out of your reach if the lower end bars are beyond your means. That's the problem...if you can't find a niche in the lower end bars, and/or you can't afford them, you certainly can't afford anything else but the Reforma street girls...maybe the street walkers on Madero, or if you really want an eclectic thrill, the transvestites down close to Harem may be your preferred cup of tea....I guess you're screwed otherwise.

My friends and I took our first trip to Monterrey last weekend. Infinito is the place to be. By far the best club in Monterrey in terms of dancers and cost (as judged by a nonspanish speaking gringo new to Monterrey but not Mexico). To be honest this is a loud and busy club but the girls in general are hot, young and supple; eager to service you. Almost all don't speak english. Dances/time with the girls upstairs is $5 USD per every 4 minutes. Oral is $15-20 USD on top of the time, full service is $30 USD plus the time cost. You pay the upstairs attendent the first $5, then pay the girl (before or after depending on the girl) and then pay the rest of your time bill to the attendent afterwards. I didn't have the courage to ask what happens if you don't have the money when it is time to pay. Time can be judged by the guys calling out the girl's names every 4 minutes, they will respond back if their mouth is available. The girls will quickly try to initate a full service session by welcomingly grabbing your crotch as they get the most money this way. A warning to the novice monger as to the initial awe that can result, the upstairs are open rooms with 3 sided cubicles, no curtains. Two fold-out chairs are provided for your "comfort". One will quickly see numerous girls servicing their clients in numerous ways in the black lighting. One however gets desensitived to the openess and later comes to appreciate it. I was very happy to see workers cleaning the cubicles/chairs/floor several times each night.

The clientale at infinito are mostly locals, neither high end or poor. A majority just drink and try to grope the girls for free on stage which they are somewhat successful at. No tipping is done. As a result a lot of girls have to stand around between sessions. We were pretty much the only americans etc there. The clientale either were either friendly to my american friends and myself or ignored us. Most don't speak english. I was glad my one friend could speak spanish. We never felt unsafe or too much out of place. The waiters are not too pushy. We befriended two waiters during the 3 nights we visited and this worked to our advantage, they helped us find each other and girls we were looking for.

As for my personal "experiences", my story must be told. During my 3 nights I took every hot girl I found upstairs to test them out with a full groping/dance session, some numerous times. Maybe half were willing to let me grind my face in their crotches. Every one tried to sell me sex and if they thought they had a chance, the more aggressive/willing they were. I always asked in broken spanish my friend taught me if they gave BBBJ's. Very sadly, only 3 out of some 20+ some hot girls said yes (and I usually can convince them otherwise with my sad puppy dog look). I had to pay $40-70 USD plus time for some great BBBJCIM action (well 2 out of the 3 were great). The one somehow managed to withdraw me at the very moment I finished, making a mess on my leg (F her, no pun intended, she was the not so good one). The other two took the shots like a pro and spit into the corner. These two were content with me relaxing and taking my time and were eager to please me. I found these two girls again on the next nights for an encore of their performances. Also during my last BBBJ session a hot girl who was getting pounded from behind in the cubicle in front of me was very eagerly watching me (as I was her) a very unique experience for me. It was kinda weird however when I was being serviced and janitors were cleaning right around us. I also partook in seriously good FS action where I was riden hard like a pack animal, with the girl moaning profusely (real or not). She also deep throated me (CBJ) with the appropriate deep throat sounds (it is not as loud upstairs). Needless to say I tipped her a little extra as this is beyond normal service.

So my advice is to save your time and money and go straight to Infinito. This is what my friends and I learned. We tried matehuala one night and it is very similiar in setup and costs as Infinito, except 1) the open cubicles are downstairs and 2) the girls are not as hot. Sure Infinito has some average or not so great looking girls but in general the Infinito girls are hot with a plethora of 6's and 7's and several 8's and 9's on the Thur-Sat evenings we were there. Matehuala only had a fraction of Infinito's quality. Also, I did find a rare BBBJ at Matehuala and the girl stopped every 10 secs to look around the corner, pissing me off. Sure enough the attendent comes over after 3 songs, interupts us, and starts to harass the girl and myself about the condom (I think for not paying the standard $3, this was all said in spanish). So I had to pay the $3. He encouraged me to continue but what for? I left and stiffed the girl by giving her only 1/4 asking since she didn't deliver BBBJCIM like I expected. So Matehuala can suck my balls (pun intended), this never happened at Infinito.

We tried La Spugna right around the corner of the Crowne Plaza where we were staying at. Huge mistake. They wanted $30 USD for just a lap dance and the girls were not even that good looking, 5's and 6's. Then I told my friends not to buy any girls drinks ever (they are new to all this). Sure enough they bought the girls at La Spugna some mini beers. Cost for each of the girl's mini beers when we left right soon after getting there? $12 USD. So never ever go to this place! Rip off.

We also tried Harem. This was a "medium" level club. And by medium level I mean you pay at least double for action here compared to Infinito. And the girls here while better in quality than Mat. And La S., could still not match the line up of presented at Infinito (and they literally line up the girls at Infinito every hour for you to inspect and choose). It was a little more relaxing here, but the girls are more aggressive at you buying them drinks, which we wouldn't do, pissing them off but then we were left alone. Infinito has little of this. At Harem, dances were $10 USD for two songs but the girl I took to test out was very uninspiring though attractive. She didn't even grab my crotch once, and in mexico, if a girl doesn't do this, I find it rude. Then my friend paid a girl for a dance and not the waiter or attendent and the waiter threw a fit (but not at us) and wasted a lot of time tracking her down before letting us pay our tab so we could go to infinito.

Also Tangley, or however it is spelled, across the street from Infinito was kinda dead and had not so good girls. A drunk girl kept harassing me and wouldn't let me leave her which I did after a short bit. She kept wanting $10 for a dance which I wouldn't pay above $5. She tried to kiss me and ended up biting my lip, I was pissed about both.

So in my opinion, if it matters to you, just go to Inifinito. Don't bother wasting your time or money at other places unless you are into that.

Here I will also briefly mention that we never encountered any violence of any nature or felt unsafe at any time/place in Monterrey. I am sure trouble could be found if one were to look for it or act like a ******* etc but we played it safe and kept our cool, took taxis etc. Monterrey is a very big city with a lot going on, the people we observed weren't acting at all like as expected judging from the media reports (I. E cowering in fear). They went about their business as usual etc. Don't be at all surprised when you realize the same. Keep your wits with you and you will be safe. Most of all enjoy your mongering!

Also if you don't speak spanish (or have a friend that does) and are uncomfortably with that fact (one can mostly get by without speaking spanish but special requests etc can be very difficult) then I suggest Tijuana (which I also love) for you where a decent percentage speak some English. As for me, I look forward to return trips to Infinito.

Just let me add on this that the regular price is 200 pesos.
100 for her, 100 for the hotel.
The price that USB quotes must include extras like full strip, various positions, etc.



[QUOTE=Unspongebob]Reforma Door Girls are quite enticing at times. Seriously, some of them really look pretty good standing out there. I frequently pass by them on the way to the Money Changer on the same block. I really mean that...But, for the serious monger here, the rest of this post is basically facetious sarcasm to counteract the trolls.

Anyway, from my perspective, the experience leaves a lot to be desired on Reforma. But, a "serious" recommendation was requested in the forum, and I am only toooooo glad to be of service.

Not too long ago, I decided after a long absence, to give one of the Reforma girls a try. The price is cheap for those that don't enjoy the club scene.

For those that find clubs like El Infinito too "dreary," and, oh yes, those overly priced 50 peso privados, and expensive 50 peso drinks, are so damned expensive, etc...

I mean, if you just want quick relief, the Reforma Girls are better than your hand. Well, not to me, but there are many different preferences here in the forum...so.

As an alternative for all mongers that do not favor the bars, and especially those that are outclassed by the lower end bars, finding them just too expensive, the door girls on Reforma are your only good potential option.

They will take you to a room in their nearby hotel, close to the alley where you'll see them standing. The rooms are not air conditioned, so you'll sweat like a pig the entire time you're there.

But, the price is right, and you don't have to even talk to them. So, you don't need to worry about whether you're on your game, you don't need any personality, or charm, cleanliness, etc...or much money...and you can be as drunk as you want to be and still feel like you're getting a bargain.

You just pay the money, around 400 pesos, plus this, plus that, etc... You see, they enjoy throwing various add-ons to the price which the mamasan will perpetrate upon you.

You'll get about 15 minutes of the 30 minutes promised, as they'll rush you along, asking you continually if you're finished yet.

And, of course, you might want to also shower, and you should also dispose of your garmets, when you get back to your hotel room because the beds in the rooms off of Reforma are...well, lets just say they aren't clean.

I mean, you don't want to pick up any bed bugs, or parasites, etc...And, seriously, maybe 15 minutes is about 10 minutes too long a time to be visiting there, with all the potential varmints you might possibly be picking up by merely sitting on the edge of the bed. So, getting 15 minutes instead of the 30 minutes promised is fine with me.

And, of course, you're on their turf, and there is no control of your personal belongings. You put your stuff in your shoe like you're on the beach, and you will need to keep an eye on your "honey" constantly, watching that she doesn't start to go through your stuff looking for a five-fingered propina, etc...

I guess that's what you're relegated to if the lower end bars, the El Infinitos of the world, are just too rich for your blood. 'Cause really, it ain't gonna be any cheaper at the decent MPs, and the lower MPs aren't any cheaper or more comfortable than the Reforma scene, nor are you gonna get any more time out of them.

And, of course, you can try an escort, but there aren't any cheap ones. Escorts are way out of your reach if the lower end bars are beyond your means. That's the problem...if you can't find a niche in the lower end bars, and/or you can't afford them, you certainly can't afford anything else but the Reforma street girls...maybe the street walkers on Madero, or if you really want an eclectic thrill, the transvestites down close to Harem may be your preferred cup of tea....I guess you're screwed otherwise.[/QUOTE]