Jakarta

[QUOTE=XXL;3060927]I just sessioned a girl some of you may know, as she is from Papua and she used to be the only girl in bikini (before the house banned her from being in bikini). She grandfathered me into full service no holds barred from last year, but when I tipped her 100 thousand she threw the banknote on the floor. I said ok then, two hundred, and gave her another red bill. She kept bitching, insisting on 300. She was adamant I had always given her 300 "because we had used no C" she said. Now I am pretty sure I had only tipped her 100 last year, as I usually did except in case where we bargained another price up front.

Maybe she acted in good faith and mistook me for another (big tipping) customer? I fear tipping 300 may have become standard at Classic's for full service no holds barred. One year is a long time these days in mongering. Things change quickly.[/QUOTE]Two weeks ago, a girl in classic brought the topic of BB up herself and asked for 500. I had a hard time negotiating her down to 300. Even worse, the sex was just mediocre and after we started to fuck, she told me that I had to come outside. Being a sucker, I had forgotten to negotiate that part.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3060930]Two weeks ago, a girl in classic brought the topic of BB up herself and asked for 500. I had a hard time negotiating her down to 300. Even worse, the sex was just mediocre and after we started to fuck, she told me that I had to come outside. Being a sucker, I had forgotten to negotiate that part.[/QUOTE]On the bright side, it could have been worse. Somewhere in her past was a chump who paid a 500 k upcharge for BB with cum on belly ending. IMHO the girl did you dirty by pulling that nonsense mid fuck. Since you were already BBing her, you could have counter negotiated that "cum outside" is only worth 150 k since (at least) half of the pleasure is diminished. If they can renegotiate during the act, why shouldn't punters do the same? Otherwise what is the consequence for such trickery? For thought, AR.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3058303]Hotel Travel is on Mangga Besar VIII, south of Jalan Taman Sari 11. It's not in Lokasari Square. You might be referring to another place called Travel, but it's not the place most often talked about here. Although it is across from a Hotel 88 on Mangga Besar VIII.[/QUOTE]Correct. Hotel Travel, as referred to often in this thread in the same breath as Classic and Kota Indah bars, is located at this Google Pin ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/pdxEWkyWyjGj7PQ87[/URL]). One can see many YT videos online of Hotel Travel that show the scale and circulation of girls, for example ([URL]https://youtu.be/2T228H5p04Y?si=dBbYpsWrUGz3d6W0[/URL]).

The Lokasari hotel as described in the other posts would seem to fit Olympic Hotel. Olympic has a coffee shop on the ground floor that has a rear door connecting to Lokasari. The rear door can be seen in this Google Pin ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/TEuY9MXBMJHrP8Um7[/URL]). Olympic also has a small disco cum KTV located on 4th floor. Other hotels in the Lokasari complex are Kabuki, Cherry and Prinsen.

IMHO and expereince, both Hotel Travel and Olympic Hotel are dumps of varying dumpiness. Neither is a beach I would die arguing on. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3060929]Is 50 K a typo? You realize that is USD $3.00, right? Three United States dollars.[/QUOTE]Amount is not typo, rather typo is in my birth timezone entered by god. Hence unfortunately I'm not the one earning in usd.

For that matter my currency is even less than idr. I think that is fair value even in idr.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3060963]Correct. Hotel Travel, as referred to often in this thread in the same breath as Classic and Kota Indah bars, is located at this Google Pin ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/pdxEWkyWyjGj7PQ87[/URL]). One can see many YT videos online of Hotel Travel that show the scale and circulation of girls, for example ([URL]https://youtu.be/2T228H5p04Y?si=dBbYpsWrUGz3d6W0[/URL]).

The Lokasari hotel as described in the other posts would seem to fit Olympic Hotel. Olympic has a coffee shop on the ground floor that has a rear door connecting to Lokasari. The rear door can be seen in this Google Pin ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/TEuY9MXBMJHrP8Um7[/URL]). Olympic also has a small disco cum KTV located on 4th floor. Other hotels in the Lokasari complex are Kabuki, Cherry and Prinsen.

IMHO and expereince, both Hotel Travel and Olympic Hotel are dumps of varying dumpiness. Neither is a beach I would die arguing on. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.[/QUOTE]Hotel Olympic is basically a karaoke centric nightlife scene, catering to a more upscale crowd, wealthy Indonesian, Bruneian, South Korean clientele. It's not your typical walk-in budget friendly spot like Classic or KI bars, guests here are usually come to spend, often dropping 5 M+ IDR, more over the course of an evening to come drink, sing, and have fun. The guys bring their own girls or choose from the ones available there, they come here for good times and experience, don't care about the transactional sex. I was told about it by a Grab driver, so I decided to check it out. I went inside, took the elevator up, and had a quick look around. The girl at the front desk gave me a brief tour of a private karaoke room, showed a few girls on tablet, and explained how everything works. I thanked her and left.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3057598]I don't understand the constant bashing of Travel.

I've been there a few times in a 6 months interval and never experienced what you've described. Never had a girl come over me (ugly or not), never saw anybody begging for drinks and I didn't see any meaningful difference with Classic's rooms. Mamasans will come over (just like in Classic), and the girls were even surprised I offered them a drink before heading to the room (girls asking for drinks happens in Classic though, but it comes from the dancers, not the regular girls).

It's not the perfect place on earth but it's just like Classic on a lower level. Lots of smoke, less girls than Classic, and the quality of the service in the room do not seem to be on par with Classic.

The Chinese dim sum restaurant open 24 hours located in the same street on the opposite side of Travel is good.[/QUOTE]I don't have anything negative to say about Hotel Travel. It was actually one of the first bars I visited during my first trip to Jakarta, which also happened to be a threesome. The girls were young, good looking, friendly, but no one was open to DFK at the time which was a downer for me. Since I didn't have that issue at other bars, I never really had a reason to return, not because of a bad experience, but simply because there were plenty of other options. When you already know what you want you can get on Amazon, why spend time and energy browsing other sites just to check if it's available?

[QUOTE=Safado70;3060930]Two weeks ago, a girl in classic brought the topic of BB up herself and asked for 500. I had a hard time negotiating her down to 300. Even worse, the sex was just mediocre and after we started to fuck, she told me that I had to come outside. Being a sucker, I had forgotten to negotiate that part.[/QUOTE]Exactly what happened to me on Friday. A young girl with small tits and deliciously flared hips. Once in the room she bargained me up to 400 k extra for BB, later insisting I had to pull out before coming. I had never thought I needed to negotiate that detail.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3061116]I don't have anything negative to say about Hotel Travel. It was actually one of the first bars I visited during my first trip to Jakarta, which also happened to be a threesome. The girls were young, good looking, friendly, but no one was open to DFK at the time which was a downer for me. Since I didn't have that issue at other bars, I never really had a reason to return, not because of a bad experience, but simply because there were plenty of other options. When you already know what you want you can get on Amazon, why spend time and energy browsing other sites just to check if it's available?[/QUOTE]I'll have four days in Jakarta later this summer after Komodo and Bali so I'll allocate one of them to check out Travel. I'm going to do T2 and T5 for another two days and the final day will be left open depending on how happy I was with the first three days.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3060929]Is 50 K a typo? You realize that is USD $3.00, right? Three United States dollars.[/QUOTE]Could you also tell us how many Japanese yen it is?

[QUOTE=Maxtreme;3058319]We are a married couple, 100% Indonesian, H: 37, W: 27, and we've been living this lifestyle for over 5 years. [/QUOTE]Swingersdateclub might be a better forum to seek what you want.

My emporivm visit is not much, still will write down few points I have experienced.

First time instead of spa, somehow I ended up in tease club, entrance fee is 150 k with a free drink.

There is a minimum table spend (I think 500 k?) which can easily cross since one shot of drink is 170+tax at least.

If visiting solo, they will try assign one of girls to just sit with us and ask for drink or cigs which will take care of above spend.

Every half an hour or so, sexy dancers will dance for sometime then DJ or band will continue music till 2 am closing time.

Selection is not much to muse about. Maybe its great to hangout as group here, smoke ventilation also might be issue.

Another time went to spa around 7 pm, total could be less than 20. One mami was assigned as guide with not a friendly vibe.

Here environment is very quiet with no smoke. 1.5 M and 2 M category is there, I saw both, clad with single color gown.

At that time I felt they are just polished 7 or 7.5, hence I didn't pick anyone and paid 300 k cancel fee and left.

Now that I think for that price point, they won't reject anyone like in classic also maybe no baby damage and offers good service like many say.

[QUOTE=GentleSapien;3060991]Amount is not typo, rather typo is in my birth timezone entered by god. Hence unfortunately I'm not the one earning in usd.

For that matter my currency is even less than idr. I think that is fair value even in idr.[/QUOTE]Do you believe in Karma?

[QUOTE=GentleSapien;3061189]My emporivm visit is not much, still will write down few points I have experienced.

First time instead of spa, somehow I ended up in tease club, entrance fee is 150 k with a free drink.

There is a minimum table spend (I think 500 k?) which can easily cross since one shot of drink is 170+tax at least.

If visiting solo, they will try assign one of girls to just sit with us and ask for drink or cigs which will take care of above spend.

Every half an hour or so, sexy dancers will dance for sometime then DJ or band will continue music till 2 am closing time.

Selection is not much to muse about. Maybe its great to hangout as group here, smoke ventilation also might be issue.

Another time went to spa around 7 pm, total could be less than 20. One mami was assigned as guide with not a friendly vibe.

Here environment is very quiet with no smoke. 1.5 M and 2 M category is there, I saw both, clad with single color gown.

At that time I felt they are just polished 7 or 7.5, hence I didn't pick anyone and paid 300 k cancel fee and left.

Now that I think for that price point, they won't reject anyone like in classic also maybe no baby damage and offers good service like many say.[/QUOTE]The way I see it is when my pecker is inside a girl's mouth or pussy, it a 1. 5 M /2 M session going to be that much significantly better than a Classic one? I personally cannot justify that type of premium for me. Thanks for your intel though as it confirms that I'll pass on this place.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3061251]Do you believe in Karma?[/QUOTE]Please ask your full question instead of vague question like this.

Quality of girls and optics are significantly better than classic, plus the hygiene is on a different level. Places like 1001 and emporium are not aiming for classic fan base any which ways.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3061279]The way I see it is when my pecker is inside a girl's mouth or pussy, it a 1. 5 M /2 M session going to be that much significantly better than a Classic one? I personally cannot justify that type of premium for me. Thanks for your intel though as it confirms that I'll pass on this place.[/QUOTE]