Jakarta

[QUOTE=Lumens;3065659]Can you share what mode of mongering in Thailand you are getting the highend GFE experience? Spas? Online ladies? Thermae? I just came off of spending a big chunk of time in Jakarta and did the different modes of mongering spas, apps, twitter, BATS, et al. Over time I developed a nice rotation of GFEs that were my type who would spend the night. For me it was a combination of putting in time and also that there are just so many ways to meet girls in Indonesia. My experience in Thailand has been a bit more business like. But perhaps I am not going about it the right way or to the right places. Despite this I do think the girls in Thailand are more consistently skilled. Do you speak Thai?[/QUOTE]Dating sites (Tinder), warm approach (hotels, mall, market), nightclubs (thai, salsa, reggaeton, edm), bars, gentlemen's clubs. I do an extreme amount of filtering to weed out 90% that won't be a good fit. I am somewhat picky and have specific tastes. Once I have a few (normally 3-5) in the funnel, I take things slow and just hang out casually to see if we are compatible. Some just want to head straight to horizontal acrobatics while others show much more of an interest in me as a person. The latter are the ones I go after. Maybe fthe former in a pinch.

In all these scenarios, I never ever go after the hottest chic that is aloof and on her phone. The lady initiates some form of non-verbal communication persistently. I don't speak Thai. Maybe 5 or so phrases. I tend to go to places that are more Thai and less foreigner friendly. Bars / nightspots that are Thai only are a gold mine of curious Thail ladies with almost zero exposure. I routinely go to places where I am the only foreigner in the entire establishment.

For dating apps, I weed out all chics that use filters, ladyboys, freelancers, and super hot chics. That is not what I am going for. I am going for a normal (maybe lonely) lady and GND types that are not specifically looking for sex. I put no sex in my profile! I am looking for a genuine tour guide that speaks Thai, some english / willing to google translate that can show me around, have a drink / grab a bite to eat at local Thai location. These ladies are a gold mind of information. I quickly move off dating platform and on to Line / Whatsapp and set up an initailly meet / greet. Very non-threatening atmosphere and they quickly let their guard down. If she is cool, we will go on 2 or 3 outings and we become friends. 100% of the time, if a Thai lady goes out with a foreigner, she definitly wants to fuck them. They are just waiting on me to make move. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't (not my type for whatever reason).

If we have great chemistry, the bedroom activity will happen quickly but I have built up so much social cred, if feels organic. Even the pros / semi-pros have feelings, likes / dislikes, etc. I never take a pro / semi-pro out of a bar, gents club, or nightspot that isn't actively trying to grope / kiss me secretly. Not saying it can't happen but I have never had a lady be GFE active in public and turn it off when we are alone.

Tinder / Warm approach are usually 2nd or 3rd hangout and then we for sure know if we are compatible and GFE is a given. Clubs / bars approach only takes a couple of hours, a few drinks, talking and maybe dancing to know if we are compatible / GFE (no surprising cost associated, just a light "gift" is expected).

To wrap this all up, there are some things working in my favor. I work remotely so I have lots of time to travel. I am tall, slim with a muscular build (188 cm /93 kgs). I always dress like old money, take 2-3 showers per day, get mani / pedi every 2 weeks, get haircut every 7 days, and smell extravagant. I look like I am in my early 30's. I am a social person that is generous. I am on the extreme end of outgoing in very strange environments (singing / dancing Isaan songs when I hear them for example). I have zero issues talking to and dating 8-10's in my personal civilian life (Europe or USA) so no amount of beauty has me in awe. I lived 14 years of my adult life abroad (I. E not my home country). Some things working against me: I am not a white European looking person, I am not a sponsor.

Sounds like we both have similar strategies. I am hitting up Jakarta for the first time in June / July of this year. Maybe you can give me some pointers. I am 100% satisfied with Thailand but I really need to at least give Indo a shot. How long were you in Jakarta to build your rotation? I normally spend 30 - 45 days each time in Thailand. By day 10, I have a solid rotation. The first 7 days, I go on probably 10-15 dates (sometimes 2 per day). By my second week, I shut down Tinder and just focus on my rotation.

Hey guys, I moved to South Jakarta some time ago and was wondering if you know any Kota Indah style bars in Cilantak or Fatmawati?

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[QUOTE=SwashBuckler77;3065728]I am hitting up Jakarta for the first time in June / July of this year. Maybe you can give me some pointers.[/QUOTE]Oh man, you going to love Jakarta. Not only for mongering, but also for dating. It's absolute next level here. Never seen something like it.

It's a big city, so you have to set your priorities – if you want to be close to the best brothels you need to stay close to Kota Indah, a small area near the Jakarta Kota station which is Jakarta's popular red light district where you'll pay on avg 350-400 k / pop.

If you want to have the best gastronomy, clubbing, atmosphere, people experience – you need to stay in South Jakarta, especially around Senopati, Blok M or Dharmawangsa. Actually, in Dharmawangsa is a really good underground brothel run in a boarding house where they have 15-20 young good looking chicks for only 250 k the pop.

For day gaming, I can recommend Pacific Place, Jl Senopati, Dharmawangsa Square and little Tokyo, there you'll find the hottest chicks in all of Jakarta – from coporate chicks to hipster girls to rich kids, all covered there.

If you want to strategically position yourself in-between South and North Jakarta (so basically between Kota Indah and Senopati) to get the best of both worlds, you should stay near MRT Bundaran Hi, from there you still have access to a lot of good bars and malls where you can day game and you can reach both hot spots in North and South with in a similar timespan.

Dm me if you want more specific recommendations for bars or brothels.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3065186]The second home visa seems like a terrible deal. It requires you deposit 2 billion IDR into a state owned bank and it has to just sit there and do nothing but lose value. The bank probably pays max 1-2% interest on a currency that has depreciated almost 20% against other major currencies the past 5 years. You also lose about 3% a year to inflation. If you have money to burn, it might be worth the convenience. But for most folks it seems like a terrible deal.

Haven't looked into the digital nomad visa. But I am pretty sure you have to show foreign income for it. Is probably great for influencers.[/QUOTE]I have one year digital nomad visa. I don't recommend it. Its expensive (I goes thru a service) and I need to show proofs of income. And if I stay in Indo for more than 6 months, need to file taxes. And from what I hear, Indonesia tax law is not kind to expats. If you choosing to delcare.

There are also a bunch of massage ++ places in Dharmawangsa in the same plaza area. Fortune, the'heaven, deltA, etc.

Sorry, don't know the name of area.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;3066222]Hey guys, I moved to South Jakarta some time ago and was wondering if you know any Kota Indah style bars in Cilantak or Fatmawati?

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Oh man, you going to love Jakarta. Not only for mongering, but also for dating. It's absolute next level here. Never seen something like it.

It's a big city, so you have to set your priorities if you want to be close to the best brothels you need to stay close to Kota Indah, a small area near the Jakarta Kota station which is Jakarta's popular red light district where you'll pay on avg 350-400 k / pop.

If you want to have the best gastronomy, clubbing, atmosphere, people experience you need to stay in South Jakarta, especially around Senopati, Blok M or Dharmawangsa. Actually, in Dharmawangsa is a really good underground brothel run in a boarding house where they have 15-20 young good looking chicks for only 250 k the pop..[/QUOTE]

Forum was getting boring so why not brighten the mood, this is my Jakarta girl took her to bali for 3 days and paid her 5 mio worth it totally. Her attitude was great, never said no for anything or anytime, banged her at 2 am and she had her legs open with a smile, then again at 5 am, once before we left for breakfast and then a BBBJ right after that. She never wore any bra or panties in the trip, just had a short top and hot pants or a small skirt throughout. I had my hands inside her clothes and on one occasion got a BBBJ after a massage session in the parlour itself. She never insisted on going to beach clubs or fancy restaurants, a normal decent restaurant would be good for her. Banged her in the balcony, in the laguna pool, she had a yes to everything. Drama free and is passport ready for my next trip abroad. Wanted to stay the extra day but I had another girl visiting me. In hindsight threesome would have been ideal. Enjoy!

Well, all the negative talks about Travel being condom BJ and my streak of not witnessing it has finally caught up.

After my long long flight and slept deprivation, I decided to hit up Travel. Because I'm staying close by.

My no condom BJ streak, of 2 or 3, got slapped to the wind.

Not only that, this was the first girl that asked for a tip and gave sad face when I gave a 50 k; she asked for another.

Said nope and we walk out of the room. Still had fun with her.

Just came back from T2 and much better there. I'll post when I'm not using my phone.

Travelling with partner to Jakarta in a few months. Any short time fun near Grand Hyatt where I can "disappear" and have my dick massaged / sucked by 1-2 providers?

[QUOTE=United1;3066274]I have one year digital nomad visa. I don't recommend it. Its expensive (I goes thru a service) and I need to show proofs of income. And if I stay in Indo for more than 6 months, need to file taxes. And from what I hear, Indonesia tax law is not kind to expats. If you choosing to delcare.[/QUOTE]Service.

Do you mean you use agent in Jakarta.

Heard agents in bali do without full income proof, add extra fees and they will do their contact immi officer.

Can you share how much cost for 1 yr with your agent or you used own bank account proofs and got lower price on website.

There was a time their entire visa system was shutdown due to vulnerability security issues.

Would be bad if your personal pii bank statements all got in wrong hands or some immi guy sell your info if you are high income target.

Don't think I read the new pricing, but.

T2 for 1 is 375 K now and the same 5 K ticket.

T5 for 1 is still 365 K and 0 ticket (used to be 5 K).

Not sure what ticket price would be if you don't take a girl.

[QUOTE=Tommyh80;3066339]Travelling with partner to Jakarta in a few months. Any short time fun near Grand Hyatt where I can "disappear" and have my dick massaged / sucked by 1-2 providers?[/QUOTE]Grand Hyatt is in Central Jakarta, you will need to travel to the North, South, East, West for most bars and spas. If you are short on time, you can try the spa inside Sarinah Mall, Sikandi or something, not sure about the exact name, next to Optik Melawai eyewear. It is not guaranteed, but if you are friendly, persuasive, willing to be generous chances are good.

[QUOTE=GCNovice;3066653]Not sure what ticket price would be if you don't take a girl.[/QUOTE]If you're talking about the entry fee, it's:

30 K at T2.

10 K at T5.

14 K at Travel.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3066301]Forum was getting boring so why not brighten the mood, this is my Jakarta girl took her to bali for 3 days and paid her 5 mio worth it totally. Her attitude was great, never said no for anything or anytime, banged her at 2 am and she had her legs open with a smile, then again at 5 am, once before we left for breakfast and then a BBBJ right after that. She never wore any bra or panties in the trip, just had a short top and hot pants or a small skirt throughout. I had my hands inside her clothes and on one occasion got a BBBJ after a massage session in the parlour itself. She never insisted on going to beach clubs or fancy restaurants, a normal decent restaurant would be good for her. Banged her in the balcony, in the laguna pool, she had a yes to everything. Drama free and is passport ready for my next trip abroad. Wanted to stay the extra day but I had another girl visiting me. In hindsight threesome would have been ideal. Enjoy![/QUOTE]They are lovely, well done. Attitude matters more than anything, doesn't have to be a model, just someone warm and eager to please.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3066733]If you're talking about the entry fee, it's:

30 K at T2.

10 K at T5.

14 K at Travel.[/QUOTE]Interesting how they charge so much more at T2 compared to T5. I would have thought it would be reversed since T5 is smaller and more relaxed atmosphere than T2 - don't know if all the pool tables have something do to with it for higher fees at T2. I forgot but are these entry fees waived if you take a girl?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3066833]Interesting how they charge so much more at T2 compared to T5. I would have thought it would be reversed since T5 is smaller and more relaxed atmosphere than T2 - don't know if all the pool tables have something do to with it for higher fees at T2. I forgot but are these entry fees waived if you take a girl?[/QUOTE]At classic there is no cover charge. (Never been to travel) There is a minimum consumption charge. With one beer ($3 USD) you cover the minimum which is like $3 USD. So any variation between clubs is noise.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3066833]Interesting how they charge so much more at T2 compared to T5. I would have thought it would be reversed since T5 is smaller and more relaxed atmosphere than T2[/QUOTE]For perspective, you are interested in the differential between USD0. 60 (IDR10 k) and USD1. 80 (IDR30 k). I do respect however this could be bank for a meal at Joni Steak for some, so perhaps not so trivial. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.