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Here is a gem from Seymour Hersch:

Donald Trump won big in Iowa this week, as anyone with an ounce of sense knew would happen, despite days of dishonest and tedious wishful thinking from CNN and MSNBC, and some print media, about the possibility of a Haley surge in Iowa that could carry over to New Hampshire.

Forget about that. The Republican nominee will be Donald Trump, unless he is stopped by the courts, and at this point the odds are that he, if untethered, will sweep to victory this November and could bring the House and Senate with him.

The Democratic response, with a few exceptions, has been to enter a state of denial. In my Washington world, the looming disaster is swept aside by loyal Democrats who insist that Biden beat Trump once before and he can do it again. Those who complain, or duty note, the lack of political viability of Vice President Kamala Harris are told they are racist or a misogynist.

Biden's initial accomplishmentslegislation that improved the daily lives of millions of Americans in desperate needhas been etched away by a series of foreign policy blunders that stem from ignorance and the visceral Russophobia that made him, and his foreign policy aides, refuse to assure Russian President Vladimir Putin before he pulled the trigger that the United States would never support Ukraine's entry into NATO. That might have been enough, with fuller elaboration, to keep the Russian ruler from launching a war that was far from necessary.

Last November, an analysis by Michael von der Schulenburg, a retired United Nations official, Hajo Funke, a political scientist, and General Harald Kujat, the highest ranking German officer of the Bundeswehr and at NATO before his retirement, concluded that a settlement of the war was possible in March 2022, one month after Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. The paper, whose findings were widely reported in Europe but not in the United States, said that the talks were sabotaged by objections from NATO as well as the Biden administration and the British government then headed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Nonetheless, secret peace talks are still ongoing between the leading generals of Russia and Ukraine, with an agreement about an exchange of prisoners on the verge of being worked out. It was the release of American prisoners of war by North Vietnam that was the key factor in ending that war. It's not clear where the Biden administration stands on such a deal. It's also not known whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is in any way involved with the talks. At this point it seems unlikely.

Biden's support for Israel and its wildly disproportionate responsethe heavy bombing that still goes onto the horrors of the Hamas' October 7 raid is on the record: "We've got your back," he famously told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, referring to the bombs and other arms that continue to flow to Israel, most recently without Congressional approval, as mandated by law. The president talks about a ceasefire but has made no specific on-the-record demand to Tel Aviv for such. Millions around the world, including untold thousands in America, have been protesting America's support for Israel's war, but the president hangs on. The best defense he can muster is his claim that he has raised the issue of a ceasefire with the Israelis.

The clearest expression of Biden's view of American responsibilities after October 7 came in a televised speech he made on October 19, after his second, very brief visit to Tel Aviv, when he and Secretary of State Antony Blinken sat in on an Israeli national security meeting. It was a time when the ferocity of the Israeli bombing attacks on the homes and apartments buildings throughout Gaza City with their many thousands of civilian casualties, had just begun raising questions. Israel clearly was responding to the Hamas attack by targeting everything standing in Gaza.

"I know we have our divisions at home," Biden said. "We have to get past them. We can't let petty, partisan, angry politics get in the way of our responsibilities as a great nation. We cannot and will not let terrorists like Hamas and tyrants like Putin win. I refuse to let that happen. " he asked Congress for a $100 billion foreign aid appropriation that included funding for both Israel and Ukraine.

End of link. Winning Pedo Joe? You sound like Charlie Sheen. You win by living well. Bin Laden won when the USA over reacted and spent trillions on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that netted nothing.

In the mean time, there was that guest from Alaska on Joe Rogan's show advocating for building natural gas and water pipelines from Alaska. We could finance those and have money left over versus financing this Ukraine debacle. I know. I know. How can we think about cheaper food and energy and ample clean water when Putin and Hamas might win? Whatever the fuck that means.

Okay, to recap. Donald Covfefe Trump has claimed:

He ran for president against Barack Obama.

And won.

He ran for president against George W. Bush.

And won.

He averted WWII.

He was busy being president all through 2021.

He ran for president against Joe Biden in 2020 and won.

And so much more.

Now this; he thinks Nikki Haley was Speaker of the House on January 6, 2021.

And at least one of his spokesholes is actually trying to gaslight the world into believing Trump meant every word of that Nikki Haley blither because it was TRUE! LOL.

[B]Dementia Don Strikes Again: Blames Nikki Haley For Jan. 6th Failures.
Trump confuses Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi when talking about Jan. 6th at an unhinged rally in New Hampshire on Friday night.[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/01/dementia-don-strikes-again-blames-nikki[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Nikki Haley, you know they, do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed all of it. All of it because of lots of things like Nikki Haley is in charge of security. We offered her 10,000 people, soldiers, National Guard, whatever they want. They turned it down. They dont want to talk about that. These are very dishonest people."[/QUOTE]He repeats Nikki Haley's name in that blithering, blathering rant at least FOUR TIMES. Watch the video on that link.

There is no Joe Biden counterpart to that astonishing example of cognitive impairment. Never has been. Not only vs Doneld Covfefe Trump. But also vs Trump's spokeshole!

LOL. BTW, the X responses in that link are hilarious. Must-Reads.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2887718]Here is a gem from Seymour Hersch:

Biden's initial accomplishmentslegislation that improved the daily lives of millions of Americans in desperate needhas been etched away by a series of foreign policy blunders that stem from ignorance and the visceral Russophobia that made him, and his foreign policy aides, refuse to assure Russian President Vladimir Putin before he pulled the trigger that the United States would never support Ukraine's entry into NATO. That might have been enough, with fuller elaboration, to keep the Russian ruler from launching a war that was far from necessary.



Biden's support for Israel and its wildly disproportionate responsethe heavy bombing that still goes onto the horrors of the Hamas' October 7 raid is on the record: "We've got your back," he famously told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, referring to the bombs and other arms that continue to flow to Israel, most recently without Congressional approval, as mandated by law. The president talks about a ceasefire but has made no specific on-the-record demand to Tel Aviv for such. Millions around the world, including untold thousands in America, have been protesting America's support for Israel's war, but the president hangs on. The best defense he can muster is his claim that he has raised the issue of a ceasefire with the Israelis.

The clearest expression of Biden's view of American responsibilities after October 7 came in a televised speech he made on October 19, after his second, very brief visit to Tel Aviv, when he and Secretary of State Antony Blinken sat in on an Israeli national security meeting. It was a time when the ferocity of the Israeli bombing attacks on the homes and apartments buildings throughout Gaza City with their many thousands of civilian casualties, had just begun raising questions. Israel clearly was responding to the Hamas attack by targeting everything standing in Gaza.

"I know we have our divisions at home," Biden said. "We have to get past them. We can't let petty, partisan, angry politics get in the way of our responsibilities as a great nation. We cannot and will not let terrorists like Hamas and tyrants like Putin win. I refuse to let that happen. " he asked Congress for a $100 billion foreign aid appropriation that included funding for both Israel and Ukraine.

End of link. Winning Pedo Joe? You sound like Charlie Sheen. You win by living well. Bin Laden won when the USA over reacted and spent trillions on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that netted nothing.

In the mean time, there was that guest from Alaska on Joe Rogan's show advocating for building natural gas and water pipelines from Alaska. We could finance those and have money left over versus financing this Ukraine debacle. I know. I know. How can we think about cheaper food and energy and ample clean water when Putin and Hamas might win? Whatever the fuck that means.[/QUOTE]He went way overboard when he proudly proclaimed that he was a Zionist! What a fool. He just declared an emergency a week or two ago so he could supply Bebe with more weapons immediately and bypassed Congress. They need them for "defense". What a joke and Bebe thumbs his nose at him too. What a Zionist fool Joey is!

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2887939]He went way overboard when he proudly proclaimed that he was a Zionist! What a fool. He just declared an emergency a week or two ago so he could supply Bebe with more weapons immediately and bypassed Congress. They need them for "defense". What a joke and Bebe thumbs his nose at him too. What a Zionist fool Joey is![/QUOTE]Agreed. This is Biden's Waterloo. I never thought Gaza would be the issue that would so splinter the Dems, but it turned out to be.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2887939]He went way overboard when he proudly proclaimed that he was a Zionist! What a fool. He just declared an emergency a week or two ago so he could supply Bebe with more weapons immediately and bypassed Congress. They need them for "defense". What a joke and Bebe thumbs his nose at him too. What a Zionist fool Joey is![/QUOTE]Zionism simply means developing and defending Israel. There are no reasons for non-anti-Semites to be against Zionism.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2888091]There are no reasons for non-anti-Semites to be against Zionism.[/QUOTE]I guess I could ask what this negative rambling means but let's just cut it down to its core and show how arrogant a statement this is: There are no reasons to be against Zionism. I guess if you are anti-zionist you have to be antisemitic and hate and want all Jews dead like Hitler. Of course, you run into a problem when you see some Jews are actually anti-Zionist, [URL]https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt14bsxdg[/URL].

Maybe those Jews have a thing for suicide.

But this is just Xpartan and his Democratic name calling brain at work. If you are against the billions being poured down the drain in Ukraine, your sole reason for wanting that according to him is you love Putin and want to suck his dick.

The worst though was the case of "never mind" with Covid. Do you remember all that stupid shit about how Republicans were going to die in droves with Covid and Dems were going to live? Do you remember the idiotic anti-vax talk?

Whatever happened to that? Xpartan, you are still getting your boosters right? Between you and John Clayton, what are you dummies up to now? Twenty boosters? Twenty five? How come you aren't calling people antivaxxers now?

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2887939]He went way overboard when he proudly proclaimed that he was a Zionist! What a fool. He just declared an emergency a week or two ago so he could supply Bebe with more weapons immediately and bypassed Congress. They need them for "defense". What a joke and Bebe thumbs his nose at him too. What a Zionist fool Joey is![/QUOTE]The Biden / USA support for Israel is about supporting Israel, not about supporting the huge mistake Israel made in ever electing a numbskull big talker horrific results version of conservatives GW Bush and Donald Trump in Bibi Netanyahu.

Unfortunately for Israel, that huge mistake put them in the position of both leaving their country bare ass naked against a devastating national security breach the same as G W Bush did re 9/11 and as Trump did re his 2018 and 2019 policies that created Trump's Pandemic.

Then, their historcally weak to non existential national security policies having produced those horrific results, their response (G W Bush invading all the wrong countries for all the wrong reasons, Trump exacerbating and worsening the deaths and disasterous worldwide economic and supply-chain collapse and inflation by lying about his Pandemic all through critical year 2020) only made their initial "Once in 100 Years" Disasters even worse.

Thankfully, the world did not totally demonize and abandon the concept and hope for the future of a democratic United States of America simply because we made the horrible mistake of "electing" G W Bush as a so-called potus.

Thankfully, the world did not yet totally demonize and abandon us for making the horrific mistake of "electing" Trump as so-called potus.

The one true democracy in that Region is what Biden is supporting, not a horrible mistake by the electorate. Given the choices, walking away from Israel because they elected that numbskull and now grasp just how foolish that was would be the worst choice.

DOJ findings on the mass shooting in Uvalde, TX, by the Uvalde police force, is a scything indictment on the cowardice of their police department, that failed the parents of the children shot.
[LIST][b]New York Times:[/b] Justice Department Finds [b]Unimaginable Failure[/b] in Uvalde Police Response

[i]The most significant failure, investigators concluded, was the decision by local police officials to classify the incident as a barricaded standoff rather than an active-shooter scenario, which would have demanded instant and aggressive action.[/i]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/18/us/uvalde-school-shooting-report-doj.html[/URL][/LIST]
But what is so blatantly glaring, is when Trump, MTG and the Lauren Boebert's of the world, along with right-wing media get up on high-horse and claim, [b][i]"...we need to consider arming teachers and give them guns, to combat the shooters, in these mass school shootings...",[/i][/b] is just INSANE.

So let me get this right! Trained (FRICKIN'!) police officers...
[LIST] who have years of training in civic and military combat tactics, ordinances and techniques;[/LIST][LIST] who are trained to take-down armed criminals, gang-bangers and drug cartels;[/LIST][LIST] who are trained to combat terrorists and (Repub) insurrectionists;[/LIST][LIST] who are skilled marksmen and shooters;[/LIST]AND
[LIST] who never hardly hesitate, when it comes to shooting, unarmed black AND brown men of color, when running away from them;[/LIST]
Suddenly feared for their lives? Were too scared, to do their jobs and take-down ONE armed gunman, and save the lives of innocent kindergarten children?

So the Repubs' hubris is just so astounding, when Repubs, in staunch support of gun laws, THINK THAT, it's somehow, [b]the teacher's responsibility, when they are:[/b]
[LIST]underpaid and underfunded;[/LIST][LIST]understaffed, undersupported;[/LIST][LIST]undertrained and inexperienced;[/LIST]AND YET STILL;
[LIST]overworked, overtaxed and overburdened with ACTUAL schooling duties;[/LIST]Should still somehow find the [i]"cojones",[/i] [i]"chutzpah"[/i] and [i]"courage"[/i] to combat, tackle or fend off, a crazed armed gunman and at the same time protect their kindergarten children; when trained Uvalde police officers, WOULD NOT and DID NOT engage to do their jobs? Once again, [b]PURE lunacy, bonkers, cuckoo and insane notion by Repubs.[/b]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2888304]DOJ findings on the mass shooting in Uvalde, TX, by the Uvalde police force, is a scything indictment on the cowardice of their police department, that failed the parents of the children shot.
[LIST][b]New York Times:[/b] Justice Department Finds [b]Unimaginable Failure[/b] in Uvalde Police Response

[i]The most significant failure, investigators concluded, was the decision by local police officials to classify the incident as a barricaded standoff rather than an active-shooter scenario, which would have demanded instant and aggressive action.[/i]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/18/us/uvalde-school-shooting-report-doj.html[/URL][/LIST]
But what is so blatantly glaring, is when Trump, MTG and the Lauren Boebert's of the world, along with right-wing media get up on high-horse and claim, [b][i]"...we need to consider arming teachers and give them guns, to combat the shooters, in these mass school shootings...",[/i][/b] is just INSANE.

So let me get this right! Trained (FRICKIN'!) police officers...
[LIST] who have years of training in civic and military combat tactics, ordinances and techniques;[/LIST][LIST] who are trained to take-down armed criminals, gang-bangers and drug cartels;[/LIST][LIST] who are trained to combat terrorists and (Repub) insurrectionists;[/LIST][LIST] who are skilled marksmen and shooters;[/LIST]AND
[LIST] who never hardly hesitate, when it comes to shooting, unarmed black AND brown men of color, when running away from them;[/LIST]
Suddenly feared for their lives? Were too scared, to do their jobs and take-down ONE armed gunman, and save the lives of innocent kindergarten children?

So the Repubs' hubris is just so astounding, when Repubs, in staunch support of gun laws, THINK THAT, it's somehow, [b]the teacher's responsibility, when they are:[/b]
[LIST]underpaid and underfunded;[/LIST][LIST]understaffed, undersupported;[/LIST][LIST]undertrained and inexperienced;[/LIST]AND YET STILL;
[LIST]overworked, overtaxed and overburdened with ACTUAL schooling duties;[/LIST]Should still somehow find the [i]"cojones",[/i] [i]"chutzpah"[/i] and [i]"courage"[/i] to combat, tackle or fend off, a crazed armed gunman and at the same time protect their kindergarten children; when trained Uvalde police officers, WOULD NOT and DID NOT engage to do their jobs? Once again, [b]PURE lunacy, bonkers, cuckoo and insane notion by Repubs.[/b][/QUOTE]You know the NRA-Servant Repubs' mantra: "Guns don't kill children. Bullets fired out of Military Combat Level Repub Guns kill children. Lots and lots of them. Very quickly. And we love it. ".

Those Texas cops were not afraid of the shooter. They were afraid of the gun that shooter had, or rather the bullets that can be fired out of it, that G W Bush, Donald Trump and other Repubs have made certain any lunatic in America can have in order to kill as many kids as they want any time they want. Oh, and as many cops as they want, too.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888292]The Biden / USA support for Israel is about supporting Israel, not about supporting the huge mistake Israel made in ever electing a numbskull big talker horrific results version of conservatives GW Bush and Donald Trump in Bibi Netanyahu.[/QUOTE]No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888292]The one true democracy in that Region is what Biden is supporting.[/QUOTE]The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated: [URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/[/URL].

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader.

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/house-jan-6-committee-deleted-091722484.html[/URL]

The whole sham committee needs to be lined up in front of a firing squad.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888369]No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated: [URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/[/URL].

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader.[/QUOTE]When a Party other than the Democratic Party produces something other than Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction, Great Repub "Once in 100 Years" Disasters and, oh why not, Great Repub Bear Market Crashes, I would be more than happy to vote for a member of that Party.

Until then, yeah, I will be voting exclusively for the only Party that has produced NONE of those Repub Disasters and EVERY Great Dem Historic Economic Recovery, Historic Dem Jobs Creation of the past 100 years or so and, oh why not, much, much greater Stock Market returns.

BTW:

Bernie Sanders was / is not a member of the Democratic Party. Therefore, aside from the fact that he won far, far fewer Dem Primary votes than an actual member of the Democratic Party in 2016, there is really no reason anyone has posited to justify why the DNC should have done anything to help him become the Democratic Party Nominee for POTUS.

Oh, and:

[B]The Myth of the Stolen Election of 1960.
Republicans demanded recounts. Much like in 2020, they changed nothing.
April 21, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/election-fraud-stolen-myth-claim-1960-nixon-kennedy-11650494219[/URL]

[QUOTE] A letter (April 11) argues that U.S. voters didnt really choose the president in 1960. While it is possible that Chicago Mayor Richard Daley fraudulently provided John F. Kennedy the 8,800 votes to carry Illinois, Richard Nixon would have also needed Texas, which he lost by nearly 50,000 votes. Fraudulent voting on that scale would have produced some evidence of irregularities and none was produced.[/QUOTE]When even Uber Repub-leaning Murdoch's Wall Street Journal can't spin all the historic and recently uncovered data and evidence that money can buy into a case that poor widdow Repub Crook Nixon was robbed in 1960, it's time to give up that ghost.

Thanks Scumbag Joe and Scumbag Barry Hussein (and I would never exempt scumbag Bubba).

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2024/01/23/congress-agency-says-bidens-deputies-took-in-6-2-million-illegals/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama-administration-trump-administration-nato/2024/01/22/id/1150568/[/URL]

"No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated: [URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/[/URL].

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader. ".

[URL]https://jacobin.com/2020/02/bernie-sanders-iowa-caucus-democratic-presidential-primary[/URL]

Does anyone remember how hard they fucked Bernie in 2020 also?

But I'm sure they kicked him a few million to STFU, because you don't hear much from him anymore.

This is really why they hate Trump so much, they can't buy him!!

Hes not a PUTA like the Democrats.

The DNC loves to rig elections, its their raison detre.

They even fucked Bubba out of 3rd term in 2008.

When he got more delegates than Barry Hussein, and they still handed it to the 1/2 black Muslim raised by white people.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2888488]Thanks Scumbag Joe and Scumbag Barry Hussein (and I would never exempt scumbag Bubba).

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2024/01/23/congress-agency-says-bidens-deputies-took-in-6-2-million-illegals/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama-administration-trump-administration-nato/2024/01/22/id/1150568/[/URL][/QUOTE]I clicked around inside the first article and did not find the part mentioned in in the headline where the CBO refers to 6. 2 Million "illegal" Immigrants. Please provide that link and quote the assertion.

The only hyper-link I found in that first link was to another unsubstantiated Breitbart headline article. Funny.

And I see your Newsmax article forgot all about Putin's invasion of Georgia on Repub GW Bush's watch, for which there was practically no meaningful USA response at all:

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/george-w-bush-was-tough-on-russia-give-me-a-break/[/URL]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-announces-sanctions-punish-russia-crimea-invasion/story?id=22939730[/URL]#text=March%2017%2 see%202014%E2%80%94,and%20 territorial%20 integrity%22%20 of%20 Ukraine.

BTW, you and Newsmax have discovered a newfound Love for NATO?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]I guess I could ask what this negative rambling means but let's just cut it down to its core and show how arrogant a statement this is: There are no reasons to be against Zionism. I guess if you are anti-zionist you have to be antisemitic and hate and want all Jews dead like Hitler. [/QUOTE]I don't know if you feel about Jews as strongly as Hitler did, but yes, anti-Zionism is simply a euphemism for anti-Semitism.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]Of course, you run into a problem when you see some Jews are actually anti-Zionist.

Maybe those Jews have a thing for suicide. [/QUOTE]I don't run into a problem. Some Jews don't believe in the historic significance for Jewish people to have there own state, and it's their right. You, on the other hand, do not have the right to oppose the Jewish state. You don't have the skin in this, and it's not your business.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]But this is just Xpartan and his Democratic name calling brain at work. If you are against the billions being poured down the drain in Ukraine, your sole reason for wanting that according to him is you love Putin and want to suck his dick.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know whether or not you like sucking dicks, but if the glove fits-.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]The worst though was the case of "never mind" with Covid. Do you remember all that stupid shit about how Republicans were going to die in droves with Covid and Dems were going to live?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE]After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic voters widened from −0. 9 percentage point (95% PI, −2. 5 to 0. 3 percentage points) to 7. 7 percentage points (95% PI, 6. 0-9. 3 percentage points) in the adjusted analysis; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. [/QUOTE][URL]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]Do you remember the idiotic anti-vax talk? Whatever happened to that? Xpartan, you are still getting your boosters right? Between you and John Clayton, what are you dummies up to now? Twenty boosters? Twenty five? How come you aren't calling people antivaxxers now? [/QUOTE]Indeed, it's time for the updated booster. Thanks for reminding me.

"No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated:

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader. ".

[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/metro/sicko-busted-in-nyc-rape-of-10-year-old-girl-he-met-on-bumble-sources/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2888503]"No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated: [URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/[/URL].

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader. "..[/QUOTE][B]Historically, do Iowa Caucus winners earn their party's nomination, become president?[/B][URL]https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/01/05/do-iowa-caucus-winners-win-presidency-party-nomination-general-election/4410195002/[/URL].

[QUOTE]Since 1972, caucus winners from both parties have become the nominee in the general election over half the time. But only three caucus winners went all the way to the White House.[/QUOTE]The winner of caucuses is usually the candidate with the loudest shouting supporters in the room at the time. It is not only undemocratic, it doesn't even have a better than random chance connection with the general election winner.

I mean, it is nothing as significant to predicting the winner of the General Election as the endorsement of both the AFL-CIO and the UAW:

[B]AFL-CIO Votes to Endorse President Biden for Re-Election.
June 16, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election[/URL]#text=The%20 General%20 Board%20 of%20 the, for%20 re%2 Delection%20 in%202024.

[B]UAW, Fain endorse Biden, say Trump 'stands against everything we stand for'
Jan. 25, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-court-autoworkers-potential-endorsement-looms-2024-01-24/[/URL]

Lolol. Meanwhile, the occasions where Trump PLEADED to be bought by America's adversaries and enemies are innumerable. We are still uncovering them:

[B]Bolton says Trump asked China to help him get reelected.[/B]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-courts-john-bolton-politics-donald-trump-8a7ff9c4e60678aafcd7f430e49196ea[/URL]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump pleaded with Chinas Xi Jinping during a 2019 summit to help his reelection prospects, according to a scathing new book by former Trump adviser John Bolton that accuses the president of being driven by political calculations when making national security decisions.[/QUOTE][B]Five times Donald Trump looked to side with Russia against the US.
Former presidents statements about Russia and Putin often clash with those of US officials.[/B]

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-five-times-putin-b2021875.html[/URL]

[B]Trump says he got money from China and Saudi Arabia because he was doing services for them.[/B]

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-got-money-china-161202767.html[/URL]

Uh. I guess someone forgot to explain to Trumpty-Dumpty that as a so-called president he was only supposed to "serve" the United States of America and not to take payments from our adversaries and enemies to "serve" them.

"No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated:

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader. ".

[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/metro/sicko-busted-in-nyc-rape-of-10-year-old-girl-he-met-on-bumble-sources/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp[/URL]".

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-23/los-angeles-unified-miramonte-teacher-mark-berndt-settlements[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2888544]I don't know if you feel about Jews.

I don't run into a problem. Some Jews don't believe in the historic significance for Jewish people to have there own state, and it's their right. You, on the other hand, do not have the right to oppose the Jewish state. You don't have the skin in this, and it's not your business.[/QUOTE]This is you in classic douche mode. I have not given an opinion on anything outside of your dumb comment than being against Israel and wanting all Jews dead are one in the same. And while your dumb ass blames me for everything, maybe you haven't noticed but a lot of Arab Democrats are not too happy with your moronic POV that there is no reason to be against Israel while it slaughters so many.

I think you mistake my having an opinion with the joy I have of watching Democrats tear themselves apart over the issue. I don't have a dog in the fight, but I sure love watching you guys tear yourselves up. Hell, even the president of Harvard went down in flames on this issue. He he.

And yeah, you need another booster. Keep 'them coming. Pfizer needs all the help it can get now.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2888395][URL]https://www.aol.com/news/house-jan-6-committee-deleted-091722484.html[/URL]

The whole sham committee needs to be lined up in front of a firing squad.[/QUOTE]I don't know what is worse MDS. That these assholes rigged this whole committee and spent all this money on an "investigation" to get their predetermined outcome and deleted anything that did not fit that predetermined outcome or that this is not a surprise at all.

After Covid, Russiagate, the inside job on the Whimer assination, Ukrainegate, the lab leak being "conspiracy theory", and all the other evil shit they have done is there any part of these douches who say, "Hey, maybe we have gone too far"?

You and I know both know if Trump were in office the Ukraine war never would have happened, but somehow Biden wormed his way out of getting blame on that one.

Israel is a super complicated issue, and I do not have an opinion on how best it should be handled, but I can say Biden slobbering over Israel while it kills thousands of innocent people is definitely not the best way to have handled things. I am just relieved that the Democratic douches have crossed one line where there have finally been consequences.

With Covid, with the impeachments, with 1-6, and all their bullshit, there has and will be no consequences.

Now that we know what the Trump / Repub campaign platform is, namely to Hope For An Economic Crash, Shrug Off And Ignore Their Previously Claimed "Border Crisis" , Outlaw Sex For Pleasure Across The Nation and Support and Defend Putin's And Any Other Authoritarian Dictator's Mission To Destroy Democracy Around The World, here is what Joe Biden has been busy working to accomplish:

[B]USA Economy grew at a 3. 3% pace in the fourth quarter, much better than expected.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/25/gdp-q4-2023-the-us-economy-grew-at-a-3point3percent-pace-in-the-fourth-quarter.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]GDP, a measure of all the goods and services produced, increased at a 3.3% annualized rate in the fourth quarter of 2023. Wall Street had been looking for a 2% gain.

The U.S. economy for all of 2023 accelerated at a 2.5% annualized pace, well ahead of the Wall Street outlook at the beginning of the year for few if any gains and better than the 1.9% increase in 2022.

A strong pace of consumer spending helped drive the expansion, as did government spending.

There also was progress on inflation. Core prices for personal consumption expenditures rose 2% for the period, while the headline rate was 1.7%.[/QUOTE]Or, as Winger / Repubs pitch it on typically pro Repub MSM, "Biden and the Dems are destroying America and the Economy"!

Uh. When Repubs see this kind of thing happening under Dem policies and stewardship, which they generally do whenever a Dem has taken over in the midst of still another Great Repub Historic And Unprecedented Economic Disaster, their usual response is something like, "Oh my God, this is horrible! Elect us and we promise to Turn This Ecomomy Around"!

Believe them.

They are just the Party to do it.

They have had lots and lots and lots of practice doing it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2888753]"No, it is about kissing the ass of the Wall Street Jews who are the biggest donors to the Democratic party.

The only time you Democrats support Democracy is when your side wins. The hypocrisy was on great display in Ukraine as we were supposed to be funding a Democracy as Zelensky was destroying it in Ukraine. Hell, the Democratic primaries are so corrupt that first Bernie Sanders got screwed. No less an authority than Donna Brazile had to call Bernie and tell him how badly Hiliary had cheated:

The latest "pro-Democracy" flap within the Democratic party involves RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy for God's sake. RFK Jr's uncle won an election so corrupt the dead in Illinois voted for his uncle. He took one look at the "pro-Democracy" Democratic primaries and declared himself an independent candidate. Because Democratic primaries are so rigged, guys like Bill Maher have taken to begging Biden not to run.

Quit giving us this crap about "Democracy" Tooms. Your goal in life is one party rule in the USA. If Israel were a dictatorship, Biden would be beside himself slobbering over and kissing the asses of its leader. ".

[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/metro/sicko-busted-in-nyc-rape-of-10-year-old-girl-he-met-on-bumble-sources/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp[/URL]".

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-23/los-angeles-unified-miramonte-teacher-mark-berndt-settlements[/URL][/QUOTE]Let me guess. These links to itemized crimes are supposed to convince someone other than yourself that no crimes occur in Red States, Red Cities or The Entire Country under Repub so-called potuses or that any one of those linked crimes is worse than Trump's Mass Murder of about a Million Americans due to his horrific Economic and National Security Policies and Srewardship as well as his plots, plans, intimidation, threats, bribes and attempts to overturn a free and fair American election and overthrow American democracy, right?

Uh. It isn't working.

Yes, Dictionaries are now being banned in Florida. This is how "NUTs" the Republican Florida legislative bodies have become. And I'm sure other RED STATES will follow, given their callous history of
abusing American rights and their [i]"monkey see, monkey do",[/i] zombie red state laws.

Florida Schools pulls dictionaries, because they [b]"Describe Sexual Content".[/b] The dictionaries' definition of words, such as "SEX", would potentially put them in violation of the law, which placed restrictions on children being taught about sexual conduct.

Dictionaries in Florida apparently contravene, a law DeSantis passed into law in 2023, which states "Depicts or describes sexual conduct as s.847.001(19)..."

[b]Dictionaries among books removed from shelves of Florida school...[/b]
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/01/11/escambia-dictionaries-removed/[/URL]

Instead of banning dictionaries, perhaps they should have given one to the fmr. (FL) Republican Chair, Christian Zielger (and wife Bridget), to lookup the meaning of the words, "hypocrisy", "consensual", "sex", and then the word "rape".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888337][b]Repubs: More Military Combat Level Weapons in the hands of more Americans, Please[/b]

You know the NRA-Servant Repubs' mantra: "Guns don't kill children. Bullets fired out of Military Combat Level Repub Guns kill children. Lots and lots of them. Very quickly. And we love it. " ... [/QUOTE]

YES, With the [i]"more guns and ammo"[/i] mantras, the bans on woman's abortion/health rights and the burning/banning of books, including the dictionary, one can only conclude, QAnon\MAGA Repubs don't want to make America GREAT, they simply want to make Americas IDIOTS (especially their base), or:[LIST] docile dummies, that are;[/LIST][LIST] gullible, half-witted, dumb as fuck and;[/LIST][LIST] mindless automatons;[/LIST]
Whose [b]"conservative pockets"[/b] are easily picked and manipulated, by their pathetic [b]"leaders", that are willing to KILL[/b], at slightest whiff of "disloyalty", or "deviation" from QAnon\MAGA Repub doctrine.

So when the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, insurrectionist fmr. loser president, says [i][b]"I love the Poorly Educated..."[/b][/i] BELIEVE HIM!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888761]You and I know both know if Trump were in office the Ukraine war never would have happened..[/QUOTE]Hardly, as Trump praised the invasion calling it "savvy" and a "stroke of genius. " he also supported appeasement in accepting the Russian annexation of Crimea. Russia has long been clear in their desire to restore lost empire. Putin and Russia have had no greater friend than Trump. Here's a good article with some excellent imbedded links.

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/international/596662-no-trump-would-not-have-stopped-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888761]but somehow Biden wormed his way out of getting blame on that one. [/QUOTE]How can you say that? You certainly blame him, and there's no shortage of others that think like you.

"Historically, do Iowa Caucus winners earn their party's nomination, become president? [URL]https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/01/05/do-iowa-caucus-winners-win-presidency-party-nomination-general-election/4410195002/[/URL].

The winner of caucuses is usually the candidate with the loudest shouting supporters in the room at the time. It is not only undemocratic, it doesn't even have a better than random chance connection with the general election winner.

I mean, it is nothing as significant to predicting the winner of the General Election as the endorsement of both the AFL-CIO and the UAW:

AFL-CIO Votes to Endorse President Biden for Re-Election.

June 16,2023.

[URL]https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election[/URL]#text=The%20 General%20 Board%20 of%20 the, for%20 re%2 Delection%20 in%202024.

UAW, Fain endorse Biden, say Trump 'stands against everything we stand for'.

Jan. 25,2024.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-court-autoworkers-potential-endorsement-looms-2024-01-24/[/URL]

Lolol. Meanwhile, the occasions where Trump pleaded to be bought by America's adversaries and enemies are innumerable. We are still uncovering them:

Uh. I guess someone forgot to explain to Trumpty-Dumpty that as a so-called president he was only supposed to "serve" the United States of America and not to take payments from our adversaries and enemies to "serve" them."

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/25/uaw-president-great-majority-union-workers-will-not-vote-biden/[/URL]

The best endorsement of all.

Why would he say this and not keep it to himself? LMAO.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888757]This is you in classic douche mode. I have not given an opinion on anything outside of your dumb comment than being against Israel and wanting all Jews dead are one in the same. And while your dumb ass blames me for everything, maybe you haven't noticed but a lot of Arab Democrats are not too happy with your moronic POV that there is no reason to be against Israel while it slaughters so many.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your unusually condensed response, albeit chaotic as always.

See, in order to perform a successful sleight of hand, one has to be skilled, or, at least, not lazy. You, dear Elvis, are neither skilled nor "not lazy". Hence the reasons why your rhetorical ploys are so ineffective.

I've never said you "wanted all Jews dead". Instead I gave you a benefit of doubt stating "I don't know if you feel about Jews as strongly as Hitler did."

I'm aware not all anti-Semites want "all Jews dead". The problem is, though, hatred for the state of Israel and refusal to recognize the unspeakable Oct 7 atrocities that caused the fully justified Israel's response are pure and undeniable signs of anti-Semitism.

You can play with semantics and portray yourself as "anti-Israel" or "anti-Zionist" all you want. You're still nothing more than an anti-Semite who's seen yet another opening.

Time to celebrate your newly-found alignment with Arab Democrats, I guess.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2888915]"Historically, do Iowa Caucus winners earn their party's nomination, become president? [URL]https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/01/05/do-iowa-caucus-winners-win-presidency-party-nomination-general-election/4410195002/[/URL].

The winner of caucuses is usually the candidate with the loudest shouting supporters in the room at the time. It is not only undemocratic, it doesn't even have a better than random chance connection with the general election winner.

I mean, it is nothing as significant to predicting the winner of the General Election as the endorsement of both the AFL-CIO and the UAW:

AFL-CIO Votes to Endorse President Biden for Re-Election.

June 16,2023.

[URL]https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election[/URL]#text=The%20 General%20 Board%20 of%20 the, for%20 re%2 Delection%20 in%202024.

UAW, Fain endorse Biden, say Trump 'stands against everything we stand for'.

Jan. 25,2024.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-court-autoworkers-potential-endorsement-looms-2024-01-24/[/URL]

Lolol. Meanwhile, the occasions where Trump pleaded to be bought by America's adversaries and enemies are innumerable. We are still uncovering them:

Uh. I guess someone forgot to explain to Trumpty-Dumpty that as a so-called president he was only supposed to "serve" the United States of America and not to take payments from our adversaries and enemies to "serve" them."

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/25/uaw-president-great-majority-union-workers-will-not-vote-biden/[/URL]

The best endorsement of all.

Why would he say this and not keep it to himself? LMAO.[/QUOTE]Why would he say that? Because an "economy that works for" gas powered automobile factory workers is crap for everyone else unless you enjoy blowing Russians and Arabs for your paycheck going forward.

Both Fain and Biden are taking the country and the economy into a better future despite many auto workers, perhaps a majority, much preferring to join Trump kneeling between the legs of Russians and Arabs for their pay whenever necessary.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2888918] The problem is, though, hatred for the state of Israel and refusal to recognize the unspeakable Oct 7 atrocities that caused the fully justified Israel's response are pure.[/QUOTE]25,000 dead Palestinians, 100,000 injured, and Hamas is still at large, and you are like this was fully justified? Is there any war you do not like? Hell, a UN court said Israel must stop its killing.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2888918]You're still nothing more than an anti-Semite who's seen yet another opening.[/QUOTE]Oh, is that from the Wall Street Jews comment? It is true that those are the big money men with the Dems, but there are Republicans Jews who are big money too like Sheldon Adleson's family. But if you are going to call me an anti-semite, I should ask you why you want all Arabs dead.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2888918]Time to celebrate your newly-found alignment with Arab Democrats, I guess.[/QUOTE]Unlike you, I don't celebrate deaths. This was a tragedy on both sides. Raping and killing women at a dance rave is as cowardly and disgusting an act as there is. I had hoped Israel would not overreact like we did after 9-11 but they have and then some.

As for Israel, I could give a fuck about it. We do not need Middle Eastern oil anymore, and IMO we should just get the fuck out of the Middle East all together. So as far as you and all your anti-Zionist ramblings, I could care less. In fact, the only thing I care about is pulling out all the aid out of the region and spending that money back home. These people have been at each other's necks for millennia and we are not going to solve anything no matter how much we spend.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2888913]Russia has long been clear in their desire to restore lost empire. Putin and Russia have had no greater friend than Trump. Here's a good article with some excellent imbedded links.

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/international/596662-no-trump-would-not-have-stopped-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/[/URL][/QUOTE]For over a decade, Putin has made clear that he views the collapse of the Soviet Union as the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century. " As a former KGB intelligence officer, Putin laments the demise of the Soviet empire and is deeply consumed by a desire to restore Russia to some semblance of its former greatness. Indeed, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, declared that "Putin's main interest is to try to restore the old Soviet Union. ".

I thought a black American on here made a great joke about the term African American. He said next time a black American is called African American ask them to name ten countries in Africa. He said of all the people he asked, not one he asked could do it.

If you are going to say Putin wants to take back the Soviet Union, can you name all the former Soviet Republics? My bet is not one of these neocon hacks could do so.

So I looked one up, Tajikistan. It is 96% Muslim, and their GDP per capita is less than one-tenth that of Russia, and we cannot let Russia take this country? Hell, if we wanted to fuck Russia over, we should beg them to take it. It would be like the USA taking over El Salvador or Nicaragua. That is a lot more likely IMO to hurt us than help us. I cannot even construct the wildest scenario in which Russia, a predominantly Christian nation, taking over a poor as shit country with ten million Muslims ends well.

And of course, you are forgetting my first hand experience. Like I said, I saw with my own fucking eyes what Biden was doing with military shipments abroad from day fucking one. My understanding is that Biden's belief is that no presidential incumbent who is fighting a war has not been re-elected. He even let slip that he wanted the American military engaging with Russia.

The part that amazes me with you guys is you learn nothing. I think you still believe all that Russiagate bullshit is true. Hell, we just had this fool Xpartan go off about getting a Covid booster. Don't you guys know that Russiagate was complete fucking bullshit? Don't you know that we can read what the "experts" said privately about Covid was completely different than what they said in public?

That fucker Fauci literally went from saying no one should wear a mask, to everyone should wear one, to everyone should wear two, and instead of laughing at how stupid he was, you guys all fell down at his feet worshiping him, and it is the same with these neocon "experts". Can't you guys think critically?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888849]Now that we know what the Trump / Repub campaign platform is, namely to Hope For An Economic Crash, Shrug Off And Ignore Their Previously Claimed "Border Crisis" , Outlaw Sex For Pleasure Across The Nation and Support and Defend Putin's And Any Other Authoritarian Dictator's Mission To Destroy Democracy Around The World, here is what Joe Biden has been busy working to accomplish:

[B]USA Economy grew at a 3. 3% pace in the fourth quarter, much better than expected.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/25/gdp-q4-2023-the-us-economy-grew-at-a-3point3percent-pace-in-the-fourth-quarter.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL] [/QUOTE]

Repubs have definitely [b]lost all sense of "reality".[/b]

In their economic MAGA world, (ie. commonly known as Earth #2), it would seem [i]"up is down"[/i] and [i]"down is up"[/i], better than expected, or blistering economic growth of Q4 at 3.3% and record new highs on the DJI and S&P 500, are just all signals/indicators [i](to the Trumpified "poorly educated" MAGA economists)[/i], that the American economy is in a RECESSION!

[b]The S&P 500 hits a new record high : NPR[/b]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2024/01/19/1225725081/wall-street-sp-500-record-high-stocks-tech-economy-inflation-interest-rates[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/22/business/magnificent-seven-stocks-tech.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888849]Uh. When Repubs see this kind of thing happening under Dem policies and stewardship, which they generally do whenever a Dem has taken over in the midst of still another Great Repub Historic And Unprecedented Economic Disaster, their usual response is something like, "Oh my God, this is horrible! [b][u]Elect us and we promise to Turn This Economy Around"![/u][/b]

Believe them.

They are just the Party to do it.

They have had lots and lots and lots of practice doing it.[/QUOTE]

Yes indeed...Repubs do [i]"believe"[/i], that they are the party, [i]"to turn around a things around!"[/i] After all, [i]"up is down"[/i], in their world (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2888849]Or, as Winger / Repubs pitch it on typically pro Repub MSM, [b]"Biden and the Dems are destroying America and the Economy"![/b] [/QUOTE]

As per my last post, perhaps this is why Repubs and Conservatives, want to ban dictionaries, of all things. To them, IGNORANCE is indeed BLISS!!!

BTW, what better way, [i][b]"to pick the pockets"[/b][/i] of the uninitiated conservatives and the [i]"poorly educated"[/i] and hugely misinformed, Repub base.

"Why would he say that? Because an "economy that works for" gas powered automobile factory workers is crap for everyone else unless you enjoy blowing Russians and Arabs for your paycheck going forward.

Both Fain and Biden are taking the country and the economy into a better future despite many auto workers, perhaps a majority, much preferring to join Trump kneeling between the legs of Russians and Arabs for their pay whenever necessary."

Get rid of scumbag Joe he should never of been installed and its way past his expiration date.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/26/exclusive-defeat-maga-meet-the-radical-left-network-that-hijacked-democrats-in-effort-to-stop-trump-at-all-costs/[/URL]

And him saying it out loud is just encouraging it and giving it tacit approval.

I'm also guessing he to will vote for Our Lord and Savior as will all white Americans with at least half of a brain.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889161]For over a decade, Putin has made clear that he views the collapse of the Soviet Union as the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century. " As a former KGB intelligence officer, Putin laments the demise of the Soviet empire and is deeply consumed by a desire to restore Russia to some semblance of its former greatness. Indeed, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, declared that "Putin's main interest is to try to restore the old Soviet Union. ".

I thought a black American on here made a great joke about the term African American. He said next time a black American is called African American ask them to name ten countries in Africa. He said of all the people he asked, not one he asked could do it.

If you are going to say Putin wants to take back the Soviet Union, can you name all the former Soviet Republics? My bet is not one of these neocon hacks could do so.

So I looked one up, Tajikistan. It is 96% Muslim, and their GDP per capita is less than one-tenth that of Russia, and we cannot let Russia take this country? Hell, if we wanted to fuck Russia over, we should beg them to take it. It would be like the USA taking over El Salvador or Nicaragua. That is a lot more likely IMO to hurt us than help us. I cannot even construct the wildest scenario in which Russia, a predominantly Christian nation, taking over a poor as shit country with ten million Muslims ends well.

And of course, you are forgetting my first hand experience. Like I said, I saw with my own fucking eyes what Biden was doing with military shipments abroad from day fucking one. [B]My understanding is that Biden's belief is that no presidential incumbent who is fighting a war has not been re-elected.[/b] He even let slip that he wanted the American military engaging with Russia.

The part that amazes me with you guys is you learn nothing. I think you still believe all that Russiagate bullshit is true. Hell, we just had this fool Xpartan go off about getting a Covid booster. Don't you guys know that Russiagate was complete fucking bullshit? Don't you know that we can read what the "experts" said privately about Covid was completely different than what they said in public?

[B]That fucker Fauci literally went from saying no one should wear a mask, to everyone should wear one,[/b] to everyone should wear two, and instead of laughing at how stupid he was, you guys all fell down at his feet worshiping him, and it is the same with these neocon "experts". Can't you guys think critically?[/QUOTE]In order for that to be Biden's belief he would have to be as addle-brained and ignorant of history and very recent events as Trump. And we all know nobody is as addle-brained and ignorant as Trump.

Biden is not "fighting a war" and neither is any branch of the USA Military under his command.

Now, Trump was "fighting a war" and so was the USA Military under his command for every minute of every hour of every day of Trump's so-called presidency. How did the 2020 Presidential election turn out for that incumbent?

Uh. Fauci did not sound the alarm for every American to run to the nearest drug store and buy up every mask in stock when his so-called president was assuring the world of this:

[B]Trump says he trusts Chinas Xi on coronavirus and the US has it totally under control.
Jan. 22, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trump-on-coronavirus-from-china-we-have-it-totally-under-control.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Its one person coming in from China. We have it under control. Its going to be just fine, Trump told CNBCs Joe Kernen from the World Economic Forum in Davos.

The president said he trusts the information coming out of China on the coronavirus, which has killed nine people there and sickened hundreds more.

The coronavirus evoked memories of the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome in China. SARS killed nearly 800 people worldwide and led to an economic downturn in the region.[/QUOTE]See, Fauci, along with practically every other infectious disease expert on the planet changed his tune on that as soon as he and the rest of the world realized that fucker Trump was either lying about his Pandemic in perfect sync with Xi or was merely a total sucker to "trust the information coming out of China", the bullshit Xi was shoveling down his soon-to-be-blocked-in-deep-Covid-19 throat.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2889240][b]I'm guessing it also applies to all unions and all Americans[/b]
"Why would he say that? Because an "economy that works for" gas powered automobile factory workers is crap for everyone else unless you enjoy blowing Russians and Arabs for your paycheck going forward.

Both Fain and Biden are taking the country and the economy into a better future despite many auto workers, perhaps a majority, much preferring to join Trump kneeling between the legs of Russians and Arabs for their pay whenever necessary."

Get rid of scumbag Joe he should never of been installed and its way past his expiration date.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/26/exclusive-defeat-maga-meet-the-radical-left-network-that-hijacked-democrats-in-effort-to-stop-trump-at-all-costs/[/URL]

And him saying it out loud is just encouraging it and giving it tacit approval.

I'm also guessing he to will vote for Our Lord and Savior as will all white Americans with at least half of a brain.[/QUOTE]Many and perhaps most factory workers who produce gas powered automobiles have a vested interest in keeping America smoking Russian and Arab pole far into the future, as Trump would have us do. However, that isn't necessarily true of other unions.

The ones who do choose to smoke Russian and Arab pole for next week's paycheck, the Trump voters, are also missing the fact that Dem leaders like Joe Biden will make the necessary transition to EVs as painless and smooth as possible. It isn't like a Dem is going to produce a Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction in one of the Repubs' patented "Once in 100 Years Disasters" or Great Repub Depression where a whole bunch of paychecks for a whole bunch of Americans go missing for a whole bunch of times.

Damn, Biden has already produced so many jobs and therefore job opportunities with higher wages that even with plenty of new workers entering the country there is still almost 2 jobs available for every applicant in the market for a job. Disgruntled UAW members included.

"In order for that to be Biden's belief he would have to be as addle-brained and ignorant of history and very recent events as Trump. And we all know nobody is as addle-brained and ignorant as Trump.

Biden is not "fighting a war" and neither is any branch of the USA Military under his command.

Now, Trump was "fighting a war" and so was the USA Military under his command for every minute of every hour of every day of Trump's so-called presidency. How did the 2020 Presidential election turn out for that incumbent?

Uh. Fauci did not sound the alarm for every American to run to the nearest drug store and buy up every mask in stock when his so-called president was assuring the world of this:

Trump says he trusts Chinas Xi on coronavirus and the US has it totally under control.

Jan. 22,2020.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trump-on-coronavirus-from-china-we-have-it-totally-under-control.html?__source=androidappshar[/URL]

See, Fauci, along with practically every other infectious disease expert on the planet changed his tune on that as soon as he and the rest of the world realized that fucker Trump was either lying about his Pandemic in perfect sync with Xi or was merely a total sucker to "trust the information coming out of China", the bullshit Xi was shoveling down his soon-to-be-blocked-in-deep-Covid-19 throat. ".

[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/di0JLnolxC0?si=pJW_c9qI_WaEx4KW[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889263]In order for that to be Biden's belief he would have to be as addle-brained and ignorant of history and very recent events as Trump. And we all know nobody is as addle-brained and ignorant as Trump.

Biden is not "fighting a war" and neither is any branch of the USA Military under his command.[/QUOTE]Sigh.

[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-military-launches-another-barrage-of-missiles-against-houthi-sites-in-yemen-ap-sources-say[/URL]

The USA Military fired another wave of ship- and submarine-launch missile strikes against Houthi-controlled sites Wednesday, USA Officials said, marking the fourth time in days it has directly targeted the group in Yemen.

[URL]https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/[/URL]

The US has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine, American partners in regions affected by the conflict, and US national security programs.

[URL]https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/04/18/just-how-many-us-troops-and-spies-do-we-have-in-ukraine/[/URL]

According to the document there were 97 special forces from NATO countries operating in Ukraine as of March, including 14 USA Special forces.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889263]See, Fauci, along with practically every other infectious disease expert on the planet changed his tune on that as soon as he and the rest of the world realized that fucker Trump was either lying about his Pandemic in perfect sync with Xi or was merely a total sucker to "trust the information coming out of China", the bullshit Xi was shoveling down his soon-to-be-blocked-in-deep-Covid-19 throat.[/QUOTE]And now the latest Fauci video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OqyUtDar4[/URL].

The way it works Tooms is guys like Fauci are supposed to be advising Trump. What you had was a guy like Fauci who created the pandemic lying his ass off about it to everyone including Trump.

Seeing as how your goal in life is the USA as China and one party rule, everything good is due to Democrats and everything bad is due to Republicans even when those doing good or bad are often supposed to be apolitical.

I have to wonder though when you make completely stupid comments like the USA is not at war with anyone, I hope you are getting paid and are really not that stupid. I doubt it, but that is my hope.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889074]25,000 dead Palestinians, 100,000 injured, and Hamas is still at large, and you are like this was fully justified? Is there any war you do not like? Hell, a UN court said Israel must stop its killing.[/QUOTE]1. Yes. But since you're such a great strategist, go ahead and teach IDF generals how to go gently on an enemy who butcher people in the most horrific way since the medieval times; who on purpose embed themselves with civilians; who hide in schools, mosques and hospitals; and who celebrate deaths of Palestinian children because it helps them to elicit sympathy from morons and anti-Semites like yourself.

2. Fuck the UN court and fuck the UN. If they hadn't designated the so-called "Palestinians" as ETERNAL victims (thus extending the conflict for decades because why not play along while getting billions of dollars in international aid) none of the last decades of terror and misery would've happened.

And fuck you too. You would never demand from another country what you're demanding from Israel, you hypocrite!

[QUOTE]The UN nurtures Palestinian grievances rather than resolving conflict

The UN maintains numerous bodies that prolong and exacerbate tensions rather than resolve the long-running conflict. Whereas all other refugees in the world fall under the jurisdiction of the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), the UN has a Palestinian-specific refugee agency, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). By conferring refugee status on descendants of actual refugees, something not done for any other population, UNRWA has increased the population under its care from 700,000 in 1948 to 5.9 million today. This figure includes more than 2.3 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, counted as refugees despite living in lands Palestinians claim for a future state. By promoting a fictitious Palestinian right to claim land in Israel and not offering resettlement as an option, UNRWA helps make the refugee issue intractable.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/16/10-things-to-know-about-the-un-and-hamas/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889074]Oh, is that from the Wall Street Jews comment? It is true that those are the big money men with the Dems, but there are Republicans Jews who are big money too like Sheldon Adleson's family. But if you are going to call me an anti-semite, I should ask you why you want all Arabs dead.[/QUOTE]The truth: You ARE an anti-Semite. I don't want all Arabs dead.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889074]Unlike you, I don't celebrate deaths. This was a tragedy on both sides. Raping and killing women at a dance rave is as cowardly and disgusting an act as there is. I had hoped Israel would not overreact like we did after 9-11 but they have and then some.[/QUOTE]Overfuckingreact? What would be an adequate reaction, then? Sing Imagine and hug each other? Again, please enlighten us. What would you have done?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889074]As for Israel, I could give a fuck about it. We do not need Middle Eastern oil anymore, and IMO we should just get the fuck out of the Middle East all together. So as far as you and all your anti-Zionist ramblings, I could care less. In fact, the only thing I care about is pulling out all the aid out of the region and spending that money back home. These people have been at each other's necks for millennia and we are not going to solve anything no matter how much we spend.[/QUOTE]My anti-Zionist ramblings? Get some help. Promptly.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889161]

So I looked one up, Tajikistan. It is 96% Muslim, and their GDP per capita is less than one-tenth that of Russia, and we cannot let Russia take this country? Hell, if we wanted to fuck Russia over, we should beg them to take it. It would be like the USA taking over El Salvador or Nicaragua. That is a lot more likely IMO to hurt us than help us. I cannot even construct the wildest scenario in which Russia, a predominantly Christian nation, taking over a poor as shit country with ten million Muslims ends well.[/QUOTE]OMFG!

Leaving aside your complete lack of empathy ([B]"let Russia take this country" -- what's wrong with you?[/B]) -- what makes you believe that Russia would be fucked by re-occupying its former Central Asian colonies? When European countries colonized Africa and Asia, did they care about their GDP? Or did they just grab and rob natural resources and manpower to enrich themselves and seize global geopolitical advantages?

My goodness, what did your parents do to you? Did you even go to school?

"Many and perhaps most factory workers who produce gas powered automobiles have a vested interest in keeping America smoking Russian and Arab pole far into the future, as Trump would have us do. However, that isn't necessarily true of other unions.

The ones who do choose to smoke Russian and Arab pole for next week's paycheck, the Trump voters, are also missing the fact that Dem leaders like Joe Biden will make the necessary transition to EVs as painless and smooth as possible. It isn't like a Dem is going to produce a Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction in one of the Repubs' patented "Once in 100 Years Disasters" or Great Repub Depression where a whole bunch of paychecks for a whole bunch of Americans go missing for a whole bunch of times.

Damn, Biden has already produced so many jobs and therefore job opportunities with higher wages that even with plenty of new workers entering the country there is still almost 2 jobs available for every applicant in the market for a job. Disgruntled UAW members included. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/21/strange-tale-about-why-bill-clinton-said-nafta-would-create-million-jobs/[/URL]

"Sigh.

[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-military-launches-another-barrage-of-missiles-against-houthi-sites-in-yemen-ap-sources-say[/URL]

The USA Military fired another wave of ship- and submarine-launch missile strikes against Houthi-controlled sites Wednesday, USA Officials said, marking the fourth time in days it has directly targeted the group in Yemen.

[URL]https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/[/URL]

The US has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine, American partners in regions affected by the conflict, and US national security programs.

[URL]https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/04/18/just-how-many-us-troops-and-spies-do-we-have-in-ukraine/[/URL]

According to the document there were 97 special forces from NATO countries operating in Ukraine as of March, including 14 USA Special forces.

And now the latest Fauci video:

The way it works Tooms is guys like Fauci are supposed to be advising Trump. What you had was a guy like Fauci who created the pandemic lying his ass off about it to everyone including Trump.

Seeing as how your goal in life is the USA as China and one party rule, everything good is due to Democrats and everything bad is due to Republicans even when those doing good or bad are often supposed to be apolitical.

I have to wonder though when you make completely stupid comments like the USA is not at war with anyone, I hope you are getting paid and are really not that stupid. I doubt it, but that is my hope. ".

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/26/the-lefts-ridiculous-disinformation-on-tainted-zuck-bucks/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889373]Sigh.

[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-military-launches-another-barrage-of-missiles-against-houthi-sites-in-yemen-ap-sources-say[/URL]

The USA Military fired another wave of ship- and submarine-launch missile strikes against Houthi-controlled sites Wednesday, USA Officials said, marking the fourth time in days it has directly targeted the group in Yemen.

[URL]https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/[/URL]

The US has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine, American partners in regions affected by the conflict, and US national security programs.

[URL]https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/04/18/just-how-many-us-troops-and-spies-do-we-have-in-ukraine/[/URL]

According to the document there were 97 special forces from NATO countries operating in Ukraine as of March, including 14 USA Special forces.

And now the latest Fauci video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OqyUtDar4[/URL].

The way it works Tooms is guys like Fauci are supposed to be advising Trump. What you had was a guy like Fauci who created the pandemic lying his ass off about it to everyone including Trump.

Seeing as how your goal in life is the USA as China and one party rule, everything good is due to Democrats and everything bad is due to Republicans even when those doing good or bad are often supposed to be apolitical.

I have to wonder though when you make completely stupid comments like the USA is not at war with anyone, I hope you are getting paid and are really not that stupid. I doubt it, but that is my hope.[/QUOTE]That is not a war. That is a retaliation. Trump did the same thing. So are you now arguing that Trump "fought TWO or THREE wars at once"?

Please look up a few definitions of "war. ".

None of those retaliations by Trump, Biden and other presidents are listed on any historical record as "wars. ".

And, no, taking sides and providing aid or support for other countries at war is also not "fighting a war". If it were then virtually every POTUS in modern history was a Wartime President and, according to your claim of Biden's belief, would have been re-elected handily. Eisenhower's Vietnam War at least had troops on the ground taking fire and coming back in body bags as well as it eventually becoming our war directly. Nothing like what is happening in Ukraine.

And, no, Fauci was not ahead of Trump in being privy to intel on China. He did not lie to Trump and tell him China only had "15 cases" in January 2020. Trump lied to Fauci and you and me and everyone within earshot about Trump's Pandemic, not the other way around.

If Fauci was higher in the chain of command and Intel on what was happening in China or anywhere else in the world including the USA, the economy and national security of the USA from January 20,2017 to January 20,2021 would have been a hell of a lot better than it was.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2889370]"In order for that to be Biden's belief he would have to be as addle-brained and ignorant of history and very recent events as Trump. And we all know nobody is as addle-brained and ignorant as Trump.

Biden is not "fighting a war" and neither is any branch of the USA Military under his command.

Now, Trump was "fighting a war" and so was the USA Military under his command for every minute of every hour of every day of Trump's so-called presidency. How did the 2020 Presidential election turn out for that incumbent?

Uh. Fauci did not sound the alarm for every American to run to the nearest drug store and buy up every mask in stock when his so-called president was assuring the world of this:

Trump says he trusts Chinas Xi on coronavirus and the US has it totally under control.

Jan. 22,2020.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trump-on-coronavirus-from-china-we-have-it-totally-under-control.html?__source=androidappshar[/URL]

See, Fauci, along with practically every other infectious disease expert on the planet changed his tune on that as soon as he and the rest of the world realized that fucker Trump was either lying about his Pandemic in perfect sync with Xi or was merely a total sucker to "trust the information coming out of China", the bullshit Xi was shoveling down his soon-to-be-blocked-in-deep-Covid-19 throat. ".

[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/di0JLnolxC0?si=pJW_c9qI_WaEx4KW[/URL][/QUOTE]Uh. Trump is the one who made funding for sanctuary cities *poof* go away. The host of that video of yours is obviously an ignorant numbskull:

[B]Biden Moves to End Trumps War on Sanctuary Cities
May 4, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/05/04/biden-sanctuary-city-policy/[/URL]

[QUOTE]
The Biden administration has ended a Trump-era policy of denying so-called sanctuary cities from receiving certain forms of federal funding. The policy had been used in retaliation against local and state governments who did not cooperate fully with federal immigration enforcement. Many courts had already ruled against these funding restrictions.[/QUOTE]LOL. In fact, since ignorant numbskulls like that guy in your video can't argue that Biden changed his stand on funding sanctuary cities, they shifted the argument that his doing so "helps illegal immigrants". LOL. Priceless. I guess you missed that Winger move:

[B]Biden sends $200 million in tax funds to sanctuary cities helping illegal immigrants.
June 12, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1631023/biden-sends-200-million-in-tax-funds-to-sanctuary-cities-helping-illegal-immigrants/[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Biden administration will shell out $363 million to help cities, states, and nonprofit groups cover the costs of feeding, sheltering, and transporting illegal immigrants released into the United States.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [b]Elvis2008[/b]
........
And now the latest Fauci video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OqyUtDar4[/URL].

The way it works Tooms is guys like Fauci are supposed to be advising Trump. What you had was a guy like Fauci who created the pandemic lying his ass off about it to everyone including Trump.

Seeing as how your goal in life is the USA as China and one party rule, everything good is due to Democrats and everything bad is due to Republicans even when those doing good or bad are often supposed to be apolitical.

I have to wonder though when you make completely stupid comments like the USA is not at war with anyone, I hope you are getting paid and are really not that stupid. I doubt it, but that is my hope.[/QUOTE]Your latest extremely tightly edited video supposedly refuting Fauci's denial that he "strongly fought in favor of" Trump's Pandemic virus having originated naturally from animal to human instead of in a lab leak, a mad scientist's plan to rule the world or popped out of a magic lantern only has him saying one time anything like "he" is leaning strongly in that direction. That is in the first part of the clip. And even his statement in that part could easily have been him saying what it is rather obvious he was saying in every other example in that clip but the con men trying to convince suckers of their spin on it edited it out; that what Fauci was actually saying in virtually every case was that THE EVIDENCE or LACK of evidence to suggest otherwise "strongly leans" in favor of the origin being the same way roughly 75% of these kinds of viruses originating. Namely, in nature from animal to human and even more than that percentage if you factor in an infection of the lab techs while a virus originating that way is being studied.

Look at that clip and those statements again. It is quite clear the editors of that video worked very, very hard to keep the "strongly" words in there while cutting off what he said was "strong" about it. And that was all available evidence that it came about the usual way and no evidence that it came about any other nefarious way.

Now, would you like know why nobody might ever figure out which way Trump's Pandemic virus originated?

See, that's actually the only truly important thing to discover considering there is no EVIDENCE that "strongly supports" it originated any unusual way.

It turns out the BIG reason we might never find out is stated right here:

[B]Do COVIDs Origins Matter?
We should work to minimize lab leaks and spillover risks, regardless of what started the pandemic.
March 29, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2023/do-covids-origins-matter[/URL]

[QUOTE]The problem is that we have lots of missing data from the earliest days of the pandemic. We dont have good epidemiologic data. We dont have good hospital data.[b] We didnt have access to the laboratories where people were working on coronaviruses. Some of the data has been withheld; some has been destroyed. [/b]And that absence or paucity of data has led to lots of uncertainty. So, each time a new fact emerges, theres a lot of attention placed on that fact or that new piece of data. [/QUOTE]Gee, if ONLY we had stationed some responsible agents from, say, the CDC there whose job it was to do exactly those functions cited above.

Now, let's all put on our Thinking Caps and see if we can figure out why oh why DIDN'T we have CDC agents stationed in those labs all during the initial Trump's Pandemic virus outbreaks so we would have had the access we needed before the Chinese had a chance to lie for weeks or months about the emerging cases and destroy the data.

Well, I certainly know where the EVIDENCE "strongly leans" in favor of why that critical presence of monitors and responders didn't happen and who was responsible for it NOT happening.

And it hasn't got one damn thing to do with Anthony Fauci.

You don't remember the USA-Syria War that Warmonger Donald Trump plunged America into right out of the gate after being appointed so-called president by the Electoral College in 2016?

Well, it was in all the Real News outlets.

[B]Trump Orders Missile Attack in Retaliation for Syrian Chemical Strikes.
April 6, 2017[/B]

[URL]https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/article/1144601/trump-orders-missile-attack-in-retaliation-for-syrian-chemical-strikes/[/URL]

Yep, according to at least one Winger here and apparently a gaggle of Wingers elsewhere, Trump keeping us actively engaged in the War in Afghanistan for every minute of every hour of every day of his so-called presidency from Noon on January 20,2017 until Noon on January 20,2021 wasn't enough warmongering to satisfy him. He had to go ahead and plunge America into ANOTHER War less than three months after lying about the Oath of Office!

Oh, and let's not forget that OTHER War he decided to wage AGAINST the USA on January 6, 2021. You know, the one that he is so unashamedly admitting to being a War he waged against America that he actually refers to his incarcerated Anti-America Insurrectionist Troops as "hostages" of his War Against America.

"Many and perhaps most factory workers who produce gas powered automobiles have a vested interest in keeping America smoking Russian and Arab pole far into the future, as Trump would have us do. However, that isn't necessarily true of other unions.

The ones who do choose to smoke Russian and Arab pole for next week's paycheck, the Trump voters, are also missing the fact that Dem leaders like Joe Biden will make the necessary transition to EVs as painless and smooth as possible. It isn't like a Dem is going to produce a Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction in one of the Repubs' patented "Once in 100 Years Disasters" or Great Repub Depression where a whole bunch of paychecks for a whole bunch of Americans go missing for a whole bunch of times.

Damn, Biden has already produced so many jobs and therefore job opportunities with higher wages that even with plenty of new workers entering the country there is still almost 2 jobs available for every applicant in the market for a job. Disgruntled UAW members included. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/21/strange-tale-about-why-bill-clinton-said-nafta-would-create-million-jobs/[/URL]".

[URL]https://www.brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/brown-to-oppose-administrations-deputy-us-trade-representative-nominee[/URL]

Throw in Bloomturd Zuckerturd and Soros little cocks with Hunter and you have a good old time, Scumbag Joe style!

Look at this, Scumbag Joe and the DNC still want TPP, what a surprise.

He needs the oligarchs to push thru another fraudulent win in Nov.

So they must be telling him to work on this ASAP.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]

Now, let's all put on our Thinking Caps and see if we can figure out why oh why DIDN'T we have CDC agents stationed in those labs all during the initial Trump's Pandemic virus outbreaks so we would have had the access we needed before the Chinese had a chance to lie for weeks or months about the emerging cases and destroy the data.

Well, I certainly know where the EVIDENCE "strongly leans" in favor of why that critical presence of monitors and responders didn't happen and who was responsible for it NOT happening.

And it hasn't got one damn thing to do with Anthony Fauci.[/QUOTE]Nah, Trumps' removal of all American employees from the Global Health Protection Program in China -- the ones who were SPECIFICALLY TRAINED "to quickly find and stop disease outbreaks" -- had nothing to do with the catastrophic spread of Covid worldwide.

It was all Fauci. And Biden. And Obama, I guess. And other libs.

'Cause they hate America, don't ya know.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]Look at that clip and those statements again. It is quite clear the editors of that video worked very, very hard to keep the "strongly" words in there while cutting off what he said was "strong" about it.[/QUOTE]Do you mean look it again after dropping acid or banging my head? The video is Fauci lying for the umpteenth time. He was strongly in favor of Covid being natural in origin and then later lied and said he was not. It is not that hard. He said he was not in favor of the public wearing masks, then he recommended wearing one mask and then two. He lied and said he was not in favor of shutting schools down because of Covid after advocating for closing them. He lied and said if you got vaccinated you could not get Covid. Fauci lying his ass off is nothing new, and you Democratic douches making excuses about his lying is nothing new either.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]And even his statement in that part could easily have been him saying what it is rather obvious he was saying in every other example in that clip but the con men trying to convince suckers of their spin on it edited it out; that what Fauci was actually saying in virtually every case[/QUOTE]An yes, the Democratic douche version of disinformation comes out. You are going to explain to us how Fauci is not lying when his own words show he is. How dare these "con men" show Fauci speaking? Thank God, we have douches like you to explain what he actually meant versus just listening to what he said.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]We should work to minimize lab leaks and spillover risks, regardless of what started the pandemic.[/QUOTE]If the pandemic started in nature, what good are stopping lab leaks? Your hero Obama told Fauci to quit fucking around with deadly viruses, and he skirted around the order Obama gave him. If you quit fucking around with deadly viruses, you don't need to worry about lab leaks.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]Gee, if ONLY we had stationed some responsible agents from, say, the CDC there whose job it was to do exactly those functions cited above.[/QUOTE]How is fucking around with viruses and making them even more deadly "responsible"? And we have this POS Fauci lying about the origins of the virus so people do not understand that he funded the creation of it. He did so even after Obama told him not to out of concern for the public, and your response is we need more "responsible" scientists like Fauci and even more people trying to make deadlier viruses?

I apologize for asking if you were getting paid off or really were that stupid. I didn't consider that you were high. What drugs are you taking now to get so detached from reality? They must be fun.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889679]Do you mean look it again after dropping acid or banging my head? The video is Fauci lying for the umpteenth time. He was strongly in favor of Covid being natural in origin and then later lied and said he was not. It is not that hard. He said he was not in favor of the public wearing masks, then he recommended wearing one mask and then two. He lied and said he was not in favor of shutting schools down because of Covid after advocating for closing them. He lied and said if you got vaccinated you could not get Covid. Fauci lying his ass off is nothing new, and you Democratic douches making excuses about his lying is nothing new either.

An yes, the Democratic douche version of disinformation comes out. You are going to explain to us how Fauci is not lying when his own words show he is. How dare these "con men" show Fauci speaking? Thank God, we have douches like you to explain what he actually meant versus just listening to what he said.

If the pandemic started in nature, what good are stopping lab leaks? Your hero Obama told Fauci to quit fucking around with deadly viruses, and he skirted around the order Obama gave him. If you quit fucking around with deadly viruses, you don't need to worry about lab leaks..[/QUOTE]If Fauci was repeatedly stating that "[B]I AM[/B] strongly in favor of the natural origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus", they would have backed up those clips to where you clearly hear him saying those exact words up front.

But they didn't.

And that is very, very likely because he was actually referring to "the evidence" strongly favoring that conclusion and the lack of evidence supporting anything else. But the con men who suckered you could not leave those words or anything like them in the clip and sucker you into believing their nonsense.

You got suckered by them. Sorry to break it to you.

Uh. I believe this was where the con men who suckered some gullible rubes into believing that Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly asserted that he "strongly favored" the natural occurance theory for the origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus and even fought for it.

This was where they lifted and tightly edited the second "example" of him supposedly asserting such a thing in their blatantly obviously misleading video. And repeated it again elsewhere in it.

Watch the whole video. It is only a bit over 9 minutes long. It represents exactly the same stance I have ever heard Fauci take on the continued research that ought to be done in order to learn more about the likely or probable origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus.

But if you just want to get all riled up and do cartwheels over his use of the words "Strongly Suggested" as lied about and twisted out of context by the liars who produced that video con job seen earlier, go to the 6:40 mark and you will discover that the unedited and in context version of his statement is that he is simply referring to the results, the data, the evidence gathered by a team of evolution virologists and epidemiologists as published in Science Magazine "strongly suggesting" a natural occurance origin.

And, as he has probably done dozens of times in dozens of interviews about it, he immediately qualifies that their "strongly suggested" conclusions ARE NOT ENOUGH to settle the issue and we must always keep an open mind about these things.

But the poor suckers who fell for that other tightly edited con job never heard his lead up or the follow up statements in context. Although, I thought it was blatantly obvious in a first viewing that a twisted, lying editing job had been done on it.

[URL]https://youtu.be/emPQMmh18Hk?si=rm21euT4Xd95rbvU[/URL]

But ET doesn't care of course hes hiding behind a miiitary junta 10000 miles away.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/irans-test-of-biden-is-an-existential-threat-to-his-presidency/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-most-dangerous-world-in-decades/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/bidens-iran-crisis-overlaps-with-his-border-crisis/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=second[/URL]

His weakness encourages aggression.

Kyiv.

Oct 7.

The southern border.

What next? Has this all this been a setup so he can let Xi take Taipei?

He couldn't manage a Jack in The Box in his "prime".

He needs to be put in a nursing home somewhere already.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889752]If Fauci was repeatedly stating that "[B]I AM[/B] strongly in favor of the natural origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus", they would have backed up those clips to where you clearly hear him saying those exact words up front.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if only we had another source other then the video. Oh wait, we can read Fauci's own fucking emails where he says the same thing.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889752]And that is very, very likely because he was actually referring to "the evidence" strongly favoring that conclusion and the lack of evidence supporting anything else.[/QUOTE]This is dumb as saying we are not at war after three American soldiers just got killed.

[URL]https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038[/URL]

And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.

Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889472]
Gee, if ONLY we had stationed some responsible agents from, say, the CDC there whose job it was to do exactly those functions cited above..[/QUOTE]Ah yes, the CDC.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".

Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.

"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889752]You got suckered by them. Sorry to break it to you.[/QUOTE]Not sure who the them is.

You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?

And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?

I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.

The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2889665]Nah, Trumps' removal of all American employees from the Global Health Protection Program in China -- the ones who were SPECIFICALLY TRAINED "to quickly find and stop disease outbreaks" -- had nothing to do with the catastrophic spread of Covid worldwide.

It was all Fauci. And Biden. And Obama, I guess. And other libs.

'Cause they hate America, don't ya know.[/QUOTE]Mainstream Media knows Trump defunded and removed those agents, the last one in authority being removed by him just 5 months before the first Covid cases emerged in those labs. Or were brought there by an infected local. Or popped out of a Chinese Aladdin's Lamp. However they got there is, of course, an interesting but largely irrelevant point to how and why Trump's Pandemic was produced. Which is why Wingers / Repubs want the former to be focused on as some big deal issue rather than the latter.

Mainstream Media also knows very well that Trump whined and cried and wondered aloud that "China should have told us about those cases. Why didn't they tell us? If only they had told us 2 months earlier we could have avoided all this trouble"!

So when Mainstream Media has now spent 4 years through two critical election cycles not even bothering to connect those 2 GIGANTIC DOTS often enough to make certain that everyone on the planet understands Trump's Economic and National Security Policies = Trump's Pandemic, Trump's Mass Murders, Trump's Worldwide Economic and Supply-Chain Collapse, Trump's Inflation, Trump's Massive Jobs Destruction, etc, then that is inarguable evidence that Mainstream Media goes to extraordinary efforts to "Bothside" help Repubs win elections many, many times more than anything they ever do for Dems.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889456][b]Yes, sigh, indeed[/b]

That is not a war. That is a retaliation. Trump did the same thing. So are you now arguing that Trump "fought TWO or THREE wars at once"?

Please look up a few definitions of "war. " ... [/QUOTE] That's a good one! You're asking, "a MAGA Republican", to actually KNOW (or look up) THE MEANING of words, in a world where [b]they ban dictionaries[/b]? (...kkkk!)

Why would Repubs need dictionaries, when they have the [i]"book of Trump"?[/i] (...kkkk!)

Biden's US Economy grew at a STAGGERING PACE in Q4 of 2023

Heather Long (Wash. Post, Jan 25th, 2024), who has long claimed the "vibe-cession" is over, explains, why was 2023 such [b]a boom year[/b] for the US Economy?
[LIST]1) Americans kept spending
2) Gov't spending picked up (esp. state and local)
3) A boom in structure" building (e.g. factories)

[b]#1[/b] was driven by strong job growth and wealth growth
[b]#2[/b] and [b]#3[/b] were [b]Biden policy[/b] growth[/LIST]So there it is AGAIN...that resilient Biden economy!

BTW, an economy, growing at [b]"a shocking/staggering pace"[/b], much to the chagrin of Repubs, FOXY MUSE, MSM, and [u]ISG Repub pseudo economists[/u], as even the Q4 (2023) inflation rate was kept low, at 1.7%, well below the FED forecast of 2.0%.

It should be noted that none of this is just simply [i]"accidental economics"[/i] or [i]"Repub Zombie Economics"[/i]. This is just what good STEWARDSHIP, LEADERSHIP and good GOVERNING look like.

President Biden's administration has taken proactive steps to grow the economy and [b]the economy has BOOMED![/b]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889912]Yeah, if only we had another source other then the video. [B]Oh wait, we can read Fauci's own fucking emails where he says the same thing.[/b]

This is dumb as saying we are not at war after three American soldiers just got killed.

[URL]https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038[/URL]

And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.

Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

Ah yes, the CDC.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".

Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.

"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".

Not sure who the them is.

You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?

And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?

I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.

The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]Well, that settles it. Boy, do I feel silly.

Now that the con job video you fell for has been totally debunked, it is so good of you to now prove that con job video's lie by providing a link to. Uh. By providing a link to. Hmm. Uh. By providing. Uh.

Oh, never mind.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2890015]Biden's US Economy grew at a STAGGERING PACE in Q4 of 2023

Heather Long (Wash. Post, Jan 25th, 2024), who has long claimed the "vibe-cession" is over, explains, why was 2023 such [b]a boom year[/b] for the US Economy?
[LIST]1) Americans kept spending
2) Gov't spending picked up (esp. state and local)
3) A boom in structure" building (e.g. factories)

[b]#1[/b] was driven by strong job growth and wealth growth
[b]#2[/b] and [b]#3[/b] were [b]Biden policy[/b] growth[/LIST]So there it is AGAIN...that resilient Biden economy!

BTW, an economy, growing at [b]"a shocking/staggering pace"[/b], much to the chagrin of Repubs, FOXY MUSE, MSM, and [u]ISG Repub pseudo economists[/u], as even the Q4 (2023) inflation rate was kept low, at 1.7%, well below the FED forecast of 2.0%.

It should be noted that none of this is just simply [i]"accidental economics"[/i] or [i]"Repub Zombie Economics"[/i]. This is just what good STEWARDSHIP, LEADERSHIP and good GOVERNING look like.

President Biden's administration has taken proactive steps to grow the economy and [b]the economy has BOOMED![/b][/QUOTE]Trump is such an Economic Numbskull Repub, he is stumbling and fumbling all over himself trying to take credit for Biden's historic high closing stock market levels after he has been predicting a stock market crash under Biden since 2020.

But he declined to take credit for anything else in this Historic Great Dem / Biden Economy without one iota of understanding that the rising stock market is one of the LEAST important and impressive accomplishments by Biden in this amazingly impressive economy, the best post-Trump's Pandrmic economic recovery on the Planet:

[B]Trump claims credit for record-high stock market under Biden.
1/29/2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/4435862-trump-claims-credit-record-stock-market-biden/[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 index set record highs over the past week.

I think the economy is horrible, except the stock market is going up, and I think the stock market is going up because Im leading Biden in all of the polls, Trump said during a Fox News town hall event in Iowa on Jan. 10. I think there will be a crash if I dont win.[/QUOTE]Lolol. Even Economic Numbskull Repub Trump presided over a rise in the stock market as long as he and his fellow Economic Numbskull Repubs gave disproportionately high tax cuts to Corporate CEOs so they could buy back their own stocks after losing ground due to crap business practices and mismanagement and not do anything else to improve the economy with them.

But even the $Trillions he added to the deficit to buy that easily predictable outcome could not buy more jobs being created with that idiotic Repub legislation than without it, a Real Annual GDP Growth Rate as high as 3%, meaningfully higher wages, a single Infrastructure Project worth mentioning or apparently enough revenue for him to fund and leave the damn Pandemic Prevention and Response Teams in those damn Chinese coronavirus research labs so they could do their damn job of preventing Trump's Damn Pandemic from destroying the whole damn world's economy and supply-chains and mass damn murder millions of people around the whole damn world!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889912]Yeah, if only we had another source other then the video. Oh wait, we can read Fauci's own fucking emails where he says the same thing.

This is dumb as saying we are not at war after three American soldiers just got killed.

[URL]https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038[/URL]

And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.

Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

Ah yes, the CDC.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".

Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.

"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".

Not sure who the them is.

You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?

And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?

I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.

The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant.[/QUOTE][B]Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.
March 26, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C3NE/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Over the last two years, the White House has pushed U.S. agencies with a presence in China to de-fund programs there along with the positions to manage them, according to the U.S. official who spoke to Reuters.
The source said Terry Branstad, the U.S. ambassador to China and a former Republican governor of Iowa, tried to remind the White House of the importance of the U.S. presence in China but was told to get with the program by an administration official.

"The White House saw the relationship as one-sided and without benefit to the U.S., the source said.[/QUOTE]In the years since the defunding and removal of those agents has been sitting there unexplained, have you or anyone else heard Trump blame Dr. Fauci for the decision to do that?

And why do you suppose Trump would have made this one exception in not blaming anyone and everyone else for one of his spectacular fuck ups, especially Dr. Fauci?

It was a Trump decision and directive, top to bottom. He doesn't even want to talk about it. And, naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is more than delighted to oblige.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2889912]

Ah yes, the CDC.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".

Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former-nyt-editor-slams-fauci-for-discrediting-lab-leak/[/URL]

Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.

"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".[/QUOTE]Well, you seem to be fond of NYP, so I'm a bit surprised you didn't read this article. Sorry for bolding, but you know, you guys and your attentions span-.

[QUOTE]Dr. Anthony Fauci accused former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield of lying in front of Congress when he alleged that he was sidelined by Fauci from internal debates about the origin of COVID-19 for pushing the lab leak theory.

[b]He is totally and unequivocally incorrect in what hes saying, that I excluded him,[/b] Fauci told Fox News host Neil Cavuto on Thursday.

Its really unfortunate that in a public setting, like the hearing, that Dr. Redfield made that absolutely incorrect statement, added President Bidens former chief medical adviser.

Redfield, appointed by former President Donald Trump to lead the CDC in March 2018, told the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic Wednesday that in the early days of the pandemic, there was an a priori decision that theres one point of view that were going to put out there, and anyone who doesnt agree with it is going to be sidelined.

Redfield specifically cited a Feb. 1, 2020, conference call that he claimed was convened by Fauci and then-National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins to discuss the origins of COVID-19.

The former CDC director said that not only was he cut out of the call, he didnt even find out about it until June 2021.

I was quite upset, as the CDC director, that I was excluded from those discussions, Redfield said Wednesday, claiming he was frozen out because he had a different point of view.

Fauci argued Thursday that [b]I had nothing to do with who would be on that call.[/b]

That call was organized by a group of evolutionary biologist in order to discuss the possibility that this might actually be a virus that was actually engineered, he said. So I didnt put anybody on the list of that call nor did I take anybody out.

Fauci, who spent 38 years as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases before retiring at the end of last year, added that [b]it would have been OK to have Redfield join the discussion, since by his recollection half the people on the call were of the opinion that it might be a lab leak. So his rationale of why he thought he was excluded is an invalid rationale.[/b][/QUOTE][URL]https://nypost.com/2023/03/09/fauci-ex-cdc-chief-redfields-claim-he-was-sidelined-has-no-basis-in-reality/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2889947]Mainstream Media knows Trump defunded and removed those agents, the last one in authority being removed by him just 5 months before the first Covid cases emerged in those labs. [/QUOTE]I must have missed something. Did these agents have a cure for Covid? It does not matter. The answer is it is Trump's fault.

We have a $200 million program run by Fauci who defied the president and created the pandemic. And what do you douches think we need? More Faucis.

What is wrong with you people?

"Yeah, if only we had another source other then the video. Oh wait, we can read Fauci's own fucking emails where he says the same thing.

This is dumb as saying we are not at war after three American soldiers just got killed.

And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.

Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

Ah yes, the CDC.

I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".

Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.

"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".

Not sure who the them is.

You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?

And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?

I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.

The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant. ".

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/01/30/pakistan-jails-its-most-popular-politician-imran-khan-for-10-years-9-days-before-election/[/URL]

"I must have missed something. Did these agents have a cure for Covid? It does not matter. The answer is it is Trump's fault.

We have a $200 million program run by Fauci who defied the president and created the pandemic. And what do you douches think we need? More Faucis.

What is wrong with you people?

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/worse-than-gay/[/URL]

Just ask Scumbag Joe.

"I must have missed something. Did these agents have a cure for Covid? It does not matter. The answer is it is Trump's fault.

We have a $200 million program run by Fauci who defied the president and created the pandemic. And what do you douches think we need? More Faucis.

What is wrong with you people?

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/what-is-biden-waiting-for/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=second[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2890111]I must have missed something. Did these agents have a cure for Covid? It does not matter. The answer is it is Trump's fault.

We have a $200 million program run by Fauci who defied the president and created the pandemic. And what do you douches think we need? More Faucis.

What is wrong with you people?[/QUOTE]The CDC Pandemic Prevention and Response Teams that Trump defunded and removed from those Chinese labs had been stationed there to Prevent or Respond to ("cure", if you like) the development of a Pandemic. Nobody expected them to "cure" the disease that Trump's Pandemic spread around the world.

See, there is a difference between a "virus" or the "disease" one developes from being infected by a virus and a "Pandemic". A big difference. Clearly, the world needs many more Faucis out there to continually educate the ignorant masses on these kind of critical differences no matter how simple and obvious they might seem to, well, the rest of us.

And in the case of Trump's Pandemic it would have been the difference between a likely manageable endemic that could have been recognized, reported as the earliest cases emerged and confined through isolation and quarantine to one region of China. Consequently, the Worldwide Economic Devastation and Millions of Deaths that Trump's economic and national security decisions in 2018, in 2019 and all through 2020 produced could have been averted.

Even Trump admitted on an audio recording that a mere 2 months heads up by those CDC Agents that he defunded and removed from those labs would have been plenty of time to EASILY prevent all the problems produced by his Pandemic:

[B]Bob Woodward Was Stunned By What Trump Told Young Son Barron About Coronavirus.
Oct. 25, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Talking to Woodward on March 19, 2020, Trump said Barron, then 13, asked what was going on and he answered: I said, it came out of China, Barron. Pure and simple. It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, [b]they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily.[/b][/QUOTE]

Polls can only tell us what the poll respondents want to tell someone else what they think.

Elections tell us what they really think.

Case in point; a majority of poll respondents famously tell pollsters that they think "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats. " And why not tell people that is what you think? I mean, it is so much easier to repeat the classic Repub bumper sticker summation of their economic policies that sound so wonderful and easy yet have never produced anything but Great Repub Crashes, Massive Jobs Destruction or Skyrocketing Unemployment Rates and NONE of the Historic Boom Times and Historic Jobs Creation of the past 100 years or so.

You know, that Repub "smaller government, lower taxes, cut regulations" bullshit.

By stark contrast, when that very Repub pitch is actually implemented and the predictable result is the Repub Economy Crashing down around our ears, businesses closing and jobs being wiped out by the Millions, no sane American voter concludes that the fix for this horrific outcome is to elect more Repubs. LOL. No, they elect Dems to "handle the economy better" and clean up the repeated Repub Party mess.

Same with the pattern of nearly unprecedented Dem election outperformance vs humiluating Repub election underperformance since 2020. Those election results are telling us what the American electorate really thinks about Joe Biden's Party vs Donald Trump's Party. They might be telling pollsters and anyone else who will listen in this Trumpian World of Victim-hood and Grievance that they don't feel that the economy is working better for them now than it did under even the best of the middling Trump economic times pre Trump's Pandemic. But their voting patterns Strongly Suggest they do.

So, aside from this writer getting that one unavoidable nuance regarding polling wrong, imo, this is still a pretty good overview of at least one element in the current gross disparity between the economy and the polls:

[B]Economists see a 'spectacular' economy. Most voters don't. Can Biden turn that around?
Jan. 30, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/calmes-bidens-got-good-news-110031427.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]With the oft-lying Trump calling the economy so fragile, and wishing for a crash, many in his party will never be convinced the economy is actually in good shape, no matter their own financial comfort. [B](Things were better with Trump in office, a Republican caucus-goer in Iowa told the New York Times, adding, I have been pretty lucky, though.)[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2889873][b]Scumbag Joe is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America[/b]
But ET doesn't care of course hes hiding behind a miiitary junta 10000 miles away.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/irans-test-of-biden-is-an-existential-threat-to-his-presidency/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-most-dangerous-world-in-decades/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/bidens-iran-crisis-overlaps-with-his-border-crisis/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=second[/URL]

His weakness encourages aggression.

Kyiv.

Oct 7.

The southern border.

What next? Has this all this been a setup so he can let Xi take Taipei?

He couldn't manage a Jack in The Box in his "prime".

He needs to be put in a nursing home somewhere already.[/QUOTE]I am sure you must have meant to say Taylor Swift is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America.

Or didn't you get the latest memo?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2889665][b]War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. ... [/b][/QUOTE]

Yep!...Sure is on Earth #2!

Don't forget as previously noted, [b][i]"Up is Down"[/i][/b] and [b][i]"Down is Up"[/i][/b], in QAnon/MAGA Repub world (aka. Earth #2).

(...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890184]I am sure you must have meant to say Taylor Swift is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America.

Or didn't you get the latest memo?[/QUOTE]And she totally must be dealt with, right alongside the journalists who upset their lord and savior.

[URL]https://www.thewrap.com/trump-threatens-journalists-with-prison-rape-supreme-court-leak/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2890206]Yep!...Sure is on Earth #2!

Don't forget as previously noted, [b][i]"Up is Down"[/i][/b] and [b][i]"Down is Up"[/i][/b], in QAnon/MAGA Repub world (aka. Earth #2).

(...kkkk!)[/QUOTE]Which is probably more true than we'd think, as MAGA hates Biden's economy boom with a nuclear capability.

[QUOTE]Americans learned this week that economic growth in the final three months of 2023 easily outpaced modest expectations, and GDP growth across the entire year was quite good despite overwhelming chatter a year ago about a looming recession.

Maybe leading GOP officials would make the case that the robust economic recovery is nice, but President Joe Biden doesn't deserve any credit. Perhaps they'd argue that its too soon to applaud good news since there's still plenty of economic work to do. Maybe they'd argue that the United States economy is a massive beast, and its unrealistic to think a White House agenda is uniquely responsible for year-to-year shifts.

But as it turns out, Republicans went with the same approach they use in response to robust job growth: They simply ignored the good news, as if it hadn't happened.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/biden-era-economic-growth-leaves-republicans-literally-speechless-rcna135896[/URL]

"I am sure you must have meant to say Taylor Swift is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America.

Or didn't you get the latest memo?

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/oregon-leaders-declare-90-day-142304518.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2890297]And she totally must be dealt with, right alongside the journalists who upset their lord and savior.

[URL]https://www.thewrap.com/trump-threatens-journalists-with-prison-rape-supreme-court-leak/[/URL]

Which is probably more true than we'd think, as MAGA hates Biden's economy boom with a nuclear capability.

[URL]https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/biden-era-economic-growth-leaves-republicans-literally-speechless-rcna135896[/URL][/QUOTE]So let's do a quick run down on these in a where are they now segment:

Hilary Clinton (emails / server) From 2012 until 2020; Investigation by DOJ; Congressional House Hearings; "Lock Her UP! 2016-2020 with DOJ ready to do "something" - (Present day. No indictment; living a retirement life and pops up every now and then for lectures).

Obama (muslim / impeach him for? From 2008 until 2016; (Present Day. Leave presidency in peace; seen reading books to children in school during the winter 2023).

Fauci (Pandemic illegalities; lied to the American people) 2020-2023; Indict him? Take his benefits away; put him in jail - (Present day. Retired from public life).

Hunter Biden / Joe Biden; (Quid Pro Quo / Bribery); 2018 - present; 2021-2022 Multiple Congressional house hearings of "whistle blowers" (each time witnesses either said they never saw / heard anything about business dealings); Hunter is subpoena before committees 2022; 2023 Hunter expressed he would do it publicly (no dice, only in secret per Committee Chairmen) - (Present day. Hunter is indicted by Joe's DOJ for crimes he allegedly committed; still living the life of a civilian).

[URL]https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/pr/grand-jury-returns-indictment-charging-robert-hunter-biden-three-felony-tax-offenses[/URL]

Joe Biden 2020-2023 (impeach him for stuffs he "did in 2018? 2021 COVID, 2022 Inflation is going to destroy the economy / country, beginning of 2023 stock markets decline is because of Joe; 2023-24 Border issues) - Congressional Hearings because of "smoking guns" yielding exactly where it began before the hearings, nada; Covid seems to have largely mitigated; End of 2023 inflation is tamed and stock markets are at all time highs; (Presently Border. Bill in Senate with bipartisan supported is told by DJT to reject, and republican congressional members are following orders.).

Taylor Swift. How dare you try to convince young people to VOTE?, and tell them who you'll support? - (Present day. Reaching 26.3 billion downloads globally in 2023; nominated for Grammy; living a charmed life).

Take a look at congress and how they did last year. [URL]https://legiscan.com/US/legislation/2023?sort=desc&order=Status[/URL].

Please let me know if you see anything that passed that was meaningful, because I may have overlooked it / them.

Not that it would disqualify the Orange Jesus in the eyes of his disciples; on the contrary, their adoration for Putin is only trumped by Trump himself (pun intended).

[QUOTE]Russian state media called out former President Donald Trump on Wednesday, saying that he is looked at as "the destroyer of America" amid discussions of the 2024 presidential election.

While speaking with Russian presenter Vladimir Solovyov about Trump, the pundits played a soundbite of the former president's interview with Fox host Sean Hannity. Trump can be heard saying, "Ukraine is being obliterated." The clip of the broadcast was shared on Twitter by Julia Davis, founder of the Russian Media Monitor watchdog group.

Soloyov responds, "And it will be destroyed. Who needs it? Who needs Ukraine where they don't respect Russians?"

Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at Moscow State University, then responds, "Trump is coming. Think of him as you will, I always saw him and still see him as a destroyer of America." [/QUOTE]Solovov says: "this is a good thing. ".

[B]"Of course," Sidorov responds, "We need people like that."[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/trump-hailed-destroyer-america-russian-state-tv-1791560[/URL]

[URL]https://t.co/2BpN51i1VJ[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2890324]"I am sure you must have meant to say Taylor Swift is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America.

Or didn't you get the latest memo?

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/oregon-leaders-declare-90-day-142304518.html[/URL][/QUOTE][B]Why Trump fears a Biden-GOP immigration deal.
He doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it.[/B]

[URL]https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/1/25/24050278/senate-immigration-border-ukraine-trump-mcconnell-romney[/URL]

Nobody wants Open Borders, spreading Fentanyl addiction, a crashing economy, jobs wiped out by the millions and worldwide authoritarian dictatorships to prevail more than Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

Every move they make 24/7 is devoted to producing those results.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2890349][b]Boogeywoman? [/b]
So let's do a quick run down on these in a where are they now segment:

Hilary Clinton (emails / server) From 2012 until 2020; ...
Obama (muslim / impeach him for? From 2008 until 2016; ...
Hunter Biden / Joe Biden; (Quid Pro Quo / Bribery); ...
Joe Biden 2020-2023 (impeach him for stuffs he "did in 2018? 2021 COVID, 2022 Inflation is going to destroy the economy / country, beginning of 2023 stock markets decline is because of Joe;
...

Taylor Swift. How dare you try to convince young people to VOTE? ...

[b]Please let me know if you see anything that passed that was meaningful, because I may have overlooked it / them.[/b] [/QUOTE]Nicely put!

The only thing I would add, is the context of "meaningful". Oh I'm sure those so called "issues" were [B][i]"meaningful"[/i][/B] to QAnon / MAGA Repubs and Trump cultists, but not so much for the rest of white and blue collar working Americans.

Needless to say, you're not the only one WAITING for that very answer. As EihTooms, was in an earlier post, also pondering that very same question:

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2872383][b]I assume Repub Chip Roy is still waiting for a convincing reply to his question.[/b]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2871647]Let me put it to you, like Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) on Nov, 13th, 2023, when trying his damndest, to find [u]anything meaningful[/u] his woeful Republican party had done:
[LIST]Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) - [b]"One thing[/b]...I want my Republican colleagues to give me, one thing...one, that I can go campaign on and said we did?", "One?...anyone sitting in the complex wanna come down to the floor and explain to me, [u]one[/u] material, meaningful and significant thing... the Republican majority have done, [b][u]besides[/u]...well I guess it's not as bad as the Democrats?"[/b]

{...Muffled silent chuckles abound from Democrats and some Republicans...}[/LIST][/QUOTE]
Repub Chip Roy could just have well asked [b]what Repubs have EVER done of significance for America[/b] when they controlled the Presidency, the House and the Senate, not just the Repub Pink Tinkle House over the past few months, and gotten the same utter silence I get here when I ask a similar question of anyone. ... [/QUOTE]But rest assured and true to their hypocritical nature, they've already started, [B][i]"Taking Credit for Stuff they Voted Against"[/i][/B], for the upcoming 2024 election.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890042][b]LOL. Numbskull Trump can't stand it [/b]

Trump is such an Economic Numbskull Repub, he is stumbling and fumbling all over himself trying to take credit for Biden's historic high closing stock market levels after he has been predicting a stock market crash under Biden since 2020.

But he declined to take credit for anything else in this Historic Great Dem / Biden Economy without one iota of understanding that the rising stock market is one of the LEAST important and impressive accomplishments by Biden in this amazingly impressive economy, the best post-Trump's Pandrmic economic recovery on the Planet:

Trump claims credit for record-high stock market under Biden.
1/29/2024
[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/4435862-trump-claims-credit-record-stock-market-biden/[/URL]

Lolol. Even Economic Numbskull Repub Trump presided over a rise in the stock market as long as he and his fellow Economic Numbskull Repubs gave disproportionately high tax cuts to Corporate CEOs so they could buy back their own stocks after losing ground due to crap business practices and mismanagement and not do anything else to improve the economy with them. ... [/QUOTE]

(...kkkk!) Why am I NOT surprised! After all, this is what Trump has done all his life. Buy a hotel/building, then slap the TRUMP name on it and take credit for having built, constructed and architectural designed the thing.

No need to tell you, this is just what they do! Republicans taking credit for stuff they either voted against, didn't vote for and/or economic and administrative successes they didn't accomplish. They are not a serious party and standup for very little or have accomplished anything meaningful for working Americas.

So now in the same nonsensical spirit of [b][i]"doing nothing"[/b][/i] while in congress, the QAnon/MAGA Repubs and right-wing trolls start a culture war with Taylor Swift.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2890349][b]Boogeywoman? [/b] ... Taylor Swift. How dare you try to convince young people to VOTE? ... [/QUOTE]

Personally, my money is on Taylor Swift, as she has probably done more for the American economy in 2023, than the Republicans have in the last 8 years.

I think Repubs and [b]right-wing trolls[/b] should stick to their "knitting". That being more along the lines of attacking fictional characters or fictional [i]"purple people"[/i]. You know the ones, the kind that [i]"can't fight back[/i], [i]talk-back[/i] or [i]hit back"[/i]. Like their purple culture wars, they started, when they went after, [b]Barney the big purple dinosaur[/b] and [b]the purple Teletubbie baby.[/b] (...kkkk!)

Boogeywoman...indeed!

This sums it up nicely in under 4 minutes:

[URL]https://youtu.be/YB-Rvp1diwc?si=7EHCRIO4HaEsRI3g[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890470]This sums it up nicely in under 4 minutes:

[URL]https://youtu.be/YB-Rvp1diwc?si=7EHCRIO4HaEsRI3g[/URL][/QUOTE] (...kkkk!) Excellent Rant! And at the same time gives a pretty good explanation!

[i]"They [Repubs] WANT things to be bad in this country. When things are BAD for us...it's GOOD for THEM [Repubs] and THEY [Repubs] succeed, when America FAILS!"[/i]

Dude is spot on and calls out the Repubs for the nihilists that they are!

LOL. I swear I heard some Repub Trumper Numbskull in Michigan open his piehole in front of a reporter's microphone and proudly announce he was going to vote for Trump over Biden because, "I know Trump will do the best thing for the American worker. ".

Oh my God. The dude was so ignorant he apparently has no idea that Trump's classic Repub economic policies and stewardship wiped out Tens of Millions of American Worker Jobs, finally ending his godawful so-called presidency with fewer American Worker Jobs than existed when Obama-Biden handed him better economic conditions than any Repub administration has ever handed an incoming Dem!

Even by this point in Trump's so-called presidency, before his 2018,2019 and 2020 economic and national security policies and stewardship created Trump's Pandemic, his and his idiot Repub Majority in Congress' one and only godawful economic "stimulus" legislation, costing an addition to the defict of $Trillions, had created FEWER American Worker jobs with it than in the three prior years without it!

This is not an election year so much as it is a USA national I. Q. Test with the equivalent of one simple question;.

Does 2+2=4 or does 2+2=1?

If Trump wins the election or rather is appointed by the Electoral College, it is clear too many Americans are so dumb they actually think 2+2=1.

[B]USA Economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better than expected.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/02/us-economy-added-353000-jobs-in-january-much-better-than-expected.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Job growth posted a surprise increase in January, demonstrating again that the U.S. labor market is solid and poised to support broader economic growth.

Nonfarm payrolls expanded by 353,000 for the month, much better than the Dow Jones estimate for 185,000, the Labor Departments Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. The unemployment rate held at 3.7%, against the estimate for 3.8%.

Wage growth also showed strength, as average hourly earnings increased 0.6%, double the monthly estimate. On a year-over-year basis, wages jumped 4.5%, well above the 4.1% forecast. The wage gains came amid a decline in average hours worked, down to 34.1, or 0.2 hour lower.

Job growth was widespread on the month, led by professional and business services with 74,000. Other significant contributors included health care (70,000), retail trade (45,000), government (36,000), social assistance (30,000) and manufacturing (23,000).

The report also indicated that Decembers job gains were much better than originally reported. The month posted a gain of 333,000, which was an upwards revision of 117,000 from the initial estimate. November also was revised higher, to 182,000, or 9,000 higher than the last estimate.

While the report demonstrated the resilience of the U.S. economy, it also could raise questions about how soon the Federal Reserve will be able to lower interest rates.

The January payrolls count comes with economists and policymakers closely watching employment figures for direction on the larger economy. Some high-profile layoffs recently have raised questions about the durability of what has been a powerful trend in hiring.

However, broader layoff numbers, such as the Labor Departments report on initial jobless claims, show companies hesitant to part with workers in such a tight labor market.

Gross domestic product growth also has defied expectations.

The fourth quarter saw GDP increase at a strong 3.3% annualized pace, closing out a year in which the economy defied widespread predictions for a recession. Growth came even as the Federal Reserve further raised interest rates in its quest to bring down inflation.

The Atlanta Feds GDPNow tracker is pointing towards a 4.2% gain in the first quarter of 2024, albeit with limited data of where things are heading for the first three months of the year.

The economic, employment and inflation dynamics make for a complicated picture as the Fed seeks to ease monetary policy. Earlier this week, the Fed again held benchmark short-term borrowing costs steady and indicated that rate cuts could be ahead but not until inflation shows further signs of cooling.

Chair Jerome Powell indicated in his post-meeting news conference that the central bank does not have a growth mandate and said central bankers remain concerned about the impact that high inflation is having on consumers, particularly those on the lower end of the income scale.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/opinion/transgender-children-gender-dysphoria.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2890814][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/opinion/transgender-children-gender-dysphoria.html[/URL][/QUOTE]So there is hope for Trumpers and Wingers to realize their tragic mistake and turn their lives around, too.

Good news.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2890814][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/opinion/transgender-children-gender-dysphoria.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not going to justify or dismiss this article.

I feel for the 1% of the population going through this, the individual, their families, the doctors who have to advise them of options. Why I feel this topic should not be political is that this subset of the population deserves to be able to go through this process privately. What I mean by this is, whether they're going to go to the bathroom, or being on a youth team sports not "designated" for them is inconsequential to US. But for whatever reasons, some of us feel like our chances / freedom is being taken away.

How? Because a straight person like to be in a public bathroom not having to, by chance, look at another human going to the bathroom who don't look like them. We did this already with other differences for many years in the US, South Africa, and Germany, and other countries.

Unlike people who are invested in this subject, to be soooo outraged by the thought of someone who isn't like them is SHARING a public spot, I don't care. I don't remember a single face or body type of anyone I have ever shared a bathroom in public with. I like to do my thing, wash my hands, and get the hell out ASAP. But for those who are hung up, what are you doing in there? Why is your mind wondering?

#2, that we are "protecting" kids from Pedos. Majority of Pedos are straight people, just like all statistically aspects of life, the majority of people are straight therefore majority of all crimes, successes, bankcruptcies, divorces, and achievements are because of them. I'm cool with fixing problems, but don't create issues to scapegoat people who are unlikely to defend themselves.

#3, it creates an unfair advantage for transgenders to compete with a girls in high school. It is also unfair advantage for girls to likely be chosen for cheerleading squads over transgenders. Ask yourself, of these two examples, which will more likely happen?

Raw stats: 1. 4% of pop between 13-17 identify themselves as trans; 34% participates in sports. Total 13-17 in US is about 300,000. This means about 1428 kids who are trans that potentially would participate, which comes to about 28 total per state divided evenly among 50 states (states are not equal in real life). Let's say I'm wrong and you double the number. Your advocating that a state (any) can't accommodate 60 people.

[URL]https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/[/URL]

To me, the article demonstrates how hard it is go through life "not Normal". Decisions you and I never need to think about or have to make. And then, how some among us go out of our ways to make it even harder on their lives just trying to live a "normal" life. I say this for black people who have to live through segregations, jews through the nazi era, gays throughout history, and now transgenders.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890972]So there is hope for Trumpers and Wingers to realize their tragic mistake and turn their lives around, too.

Good news.[/QUOTE]Nah, only children and young adults can change. For wingers the damage has been done.

"Not going to justify or dismiss this article.

I feel for the 1% of the population going through this, the individual, their families, the doctors who have to advise them of options. Why I feel this topic should not be political is that this subset of the population deserves to be able to go through this process privately. What I mean by this is, whether they're going to go to the bathroom, or being on a youth team sports not "designated" for them is inconsequential to US. But for whatever reasons, some of us feel like our chances / freedom is being taken away.

How? Because a straight person like to be in a public bathroom not having to, by chance, look at another human going to the bathroom who don't look like them. We did this already with other differences for many years in the US, South Africa, and Germany, and other countries.

Unlike people who are invested in this subject, to be soooo outraged by the thought of someone who isn't like them is SHARING a public spot, I don't care. I don't remember a single face or body type of anyone I have ever shared a bathroom in public with. I like to do my thing, wash my hands, and get the hell out ASAP. But for those who are hung up, what are you doing in there? Why is your mind wondering?

#2, that we are "protecting" kids from Pedos. Majority of Pedos are straight people, just like all statistically aspects of life, the majority of people are straight therefore majority of all crimes, successes, bankcruptcies, divorces, and achievements are because of them. I'm cool with fixing problems, but don't create issues to scapegoat people who are unlikely to defend themselves.

#3, it creates an unfair advantage for transgenders to compete with a girls in high school. It is also unfair advantage for girls to likely be chosen for cheerleading squads over transgenders. Ask yourself, of these two examples, which will more likely happen?

Raw stats: 1. 4% of pop between 13-17 identify themselves as trans; 34% participates in sports. Total 13-17 in US is about 300,000. This means about 1428 kids who are trans that potentially would participate, which comes to about 28 total per state divided evenly among 50 states (states are not equal in real life). Let's say I'm wrong and you double the number. Your advocating that a state (any) can't accommodate 60 people.

[URL]https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/[/URL]

To me, the article demonstrates how hard it is go through life "not Normal". Decisions you and I never need to think about or have to make. And then, how some among us go out of our ways to make it even harder on their lives just trying to live a "normal" life. I say this for black people who have to live through segregations, jews through the nazi era, gays throughout history, and now transgenders."

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891000]Not going to justify or dismiss this article.

I feel for the 1% of the population going through this, the individual, their families, the doctors who have to advise them of options. Why I feel this topic should not be political is that this subset of the population deserves to be able to go through this process privately. What I mean by this is, whether they're going to go to the bathroom, or being on a youth team sports not "designated" for them is inconsequential to US. But for whatever reasons, some of us feel like our chances / freedom is being taken away.

How? Because a straight person like to be in a public bathroom not having to, by chance, look at another human going to the bathroom who don't look like them. We did this already with other differences for many years in the US, South Africa, and Germany, and other countries.

Unlike people who are invested in this subject, to be soooo outraged by the thought of someone who isn't like them is SHARING a public spot, I don't care. I don't remember a single face or body type of anyone I have ever shared a bathroom in public with. I like to do my thing, wash my hands, and get the hell out ASAP. But for those who are hung up, what are you doing in there? Why is your mind wondering?[/QUOTE]I think, the gist of "bathroom" concern is about kids or would've been if a certain group of politicians hadn't put it on their banner. Grownups can handle sharing a bathroom, which is evidenced by the ease Americans get used to unisex restrooms in France, not even mentioning all kinds of public joint "setups" in Thailand, Japan, Cambodia and other countries. Hell, Paris has street urinals now with pretty much no cover at all.

For schools, on the other hand, it's tricky. I understand parents who want school restrooms segregated. I would've felt the same way.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891000]#3, it creates an unfair advantage for transgenders to compete with a girls in high school. It is also unfair advantage for girls to likely be chosen for cheerleading squads over transgenders. Ask yourself, of these two examples, which will more likely happen?

Raw stats: 1. 4% of pop between 13-17 identify themselves as trans; 34% participates in sports. Total 13-17 in US is about 300,000. This means about 1428 kids who are trans that potentially would participate, which comes to about 28 total per state divided evenly among 50 states (states are not equal in real life). Let's say I'm wrong and you double the number. Your advocating that a state (any) can't accommodate 60 people.

[URL]https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/[/URL][/QUOTE]Just to be clear, I'm not against transgenders (when transitions are truly justified), but imagine that you have to compete with someone who's a priori faster and stronger than you are. How can you accommodate trans (even if there are very few of them) that wouldn't hurt competing female athletes who don't naturally possess these abilities? Is it even possible at all?

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891000]To me, the article demonstrates how hard it is go through life "not Normal". Decisions you and I never need to think about or have to make. And then, how some among us go out of our ways to make it even harder on their lives just trying to live a "normal" life. I say this for black people who have to live through segregations, jews through the nazi era, gays throughout history, and now transgenders.[/QUOTE]It's very hard to be different, no questions about that. And kids especially can be cruel beyond belief.

"LOL. I swear I heard some Repub Trumper Numbskull in Michigan open his piehole in front of a reporter's microphone and proudly announce he was going to vote for Trump over Biden because, "I know Trump will do the best thing for the American worker. ".

Oh my God. The dude was so ignorant he apparently has no idea that Trump's classic Repub economic policies and stewardship wiped out Tens of Millions of American Worker Jobs, finally ending his godawful so-called presidency with fewer American Worker Jobs than existed when Obama-Biden handed him better economic conditions than any Repub administration has ever handed an incoming Dem!

Even by this point in Trump's so-called presidency, before his 2018,2019 and 2020 economic and national security policies and stewardship created Trump's Pandemic, his and his idiot Repub Majority in Congress' one and only godawful economic "stimulus" legislation, costing an addition to the defict of $Trillions, had created FEWER American Worker jobs with it than in the three prior years without it!

This is not an election year so much as it is a USA national I. Q. Test with the equivalent of one simple question;.

Does 2+2=4 or does 2+2=1?

If Trump wins the election or rather is appointed by the Electoral College, it is clear too many Americans are so dumb they actually think 2+2=1. ".

With enemies this stoopid, nobody needs friends LMAO.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/02/e-jean-carrolls-self-defeating-media-tour/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2891166][b]What no Jew hating HAKEEM you typically RACIST leftard LMAO[/b] "LOL. I swear I heard some Repub Trumper Numbskull in Michigan open his piehole in front of a reporter's microphone and proudly announce he was going to vote for Trump over Biden because, "I know Trump will do the best thing for the American worker. ".

Oh my God. The dude was so ignorant he apparently has no idea that Trump's classic Repub economic policies and stewardship wiped out Tens of Millions of American Worker Jobs, finally ending his godawful so-called presidency with fewer American Worker Jobs than existed when Obama-Biden handed him better economic conditions than any Repub administration has ever handed an incoming Dem!

Even by this point in Trump's so-called presidency, before his 2018,2019 and 2020 economic and national security policies and stewardship created Trump's Pandemic, his and his idiot Repub Majority in Congress' one and only godawful economic "stimulus" legislation, costing an addition to the defict of $Trillions, had created FEWER American Worker jobs with it than in the three prior years without it!

This is not an election year so much as it is a USA national I. Q. Test with the equivalent of one simple question;.

Does 2+2=4 or does 2+2=1?

If Trump wins the election or rather is appointed by the Electoral College, it is clear too many Americans are so dumb they actually think 2+2=1. ".

With enemies this stoopid, nobody needs friends LMAO.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/02/e-jean-carrolls-self-defeating-media-tour/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hakeem Jeffries would be among "the Dems" that I cited deserving credit and thanks for pulling us out of another Repub Once In 100 Years Disaster and Massive Jobs Destruction and into another Great Dem Economic Recovery, Expansion and Jobs Creation.

See, he only became the Dem Leader in the House on January 3, 2023, after Nancy or was it Nikki stepped down from that position and after virtually all of the heavy lifting and political risk taking to achieve that historic positive result had been shouldered and assumed by the Dems whose leadership I mentioned by name.

Since then, the new Repub "leadership" has, predictably, been only about inflicting economy-damaging brinkmanship threats to shut down the government, not pay the bills they racked up like the deadbeat Repubs they are, take innumerable votes just to choose a "leader", kick out that "leader" it took them innumerable votes to choose, pick a ChristoFacist "leader" to replace that one, linger and drool over nude photos of someone who never ran for or held elected office and do endless but as yet fruitless research on what the hell they can pitch for a reason to Impeach President Hunter Biden.

Consequently, all of the most meaningful gains for the American people related to the House of Representatives came to a screeching halt the moment the Repub Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle House Majority took over.

And, therefore, Hakeem was only able to participate as a rank and file Dem in cleaning up the colossal mess and historically putrid "fumes" left behind from one of if not THE worst economic and national security results produced by Trump before he became Leader of the Dems in the House.

Yeah, regarding your link, it appears that $83 Millon + $5 Milloon + Daily Interest on those Millions might finally be enough to keep the name of Trump's sexual assault victim, the court clerk, the judge, the judge's family etc out of his piehole for a while. Since that judgement was handed down Trump has dutifully and obediently not uttered in public or written their names in vain as he simply could not prevent himself from doing previously.

Being a classic Repub, America's economy doing historically well today while China's economy is crap really, really bothers Trump.

Therefore, he is already floating his plan to "turn this economy around" in classic Repub fashion should just enough of the American electorate prove themselves incapable of choosing the correct answer for what 2+2 equals and put him back into the White House:

[B]Trump floats 'more than' 60% tariffs on Chinese imports.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/04/trump-floats-more-than-60percent-tariffs-on-chinese-imports.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Trump confirmed that he would impose tariffs of 60% or higher on Chinese goods were he to win a second term in office.

His tariff strategy could revive the trade war he triggered during his first term as president when he imposed $250 billion in China tariffs.

Trumps China trade war disrupted the global economy, raised consumer costs, stirred stock markets and put U.S.-China relations on ice.
.....
"What Donald Trumps about to do, is hes going to raise every households expenses by $2,600 a year, said Haley in a January interview on CNBCs Squawk Box, referencing data from the fiscally conservative National Taxpayers Union.

Her disapproval echoes the concerns of Wall Street investors who worry that another China trade war would disrupt markets again.

Starting in 2018, Trump began a wave of $250 billion in tariffs against China. The country then struck back with its own set of tariffs against the U.S. in a back-and-forth economic battle that lasted years and disrupted global trade dynamics.

Trumps trade war with China cost Americans an estimated $195 billion since 2018, according to the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank. The economic battle also led to the loss of more than 245,000 U.S. jobs, according to the U.S.-China Business Council.

At the time, Deutsche Bank estimated that the trade war was causing the stock market to hemorrhage trillions.

The tariff dispute also left the U.S. and China, once each others biggest trading partners, on rocky geopolitical terms. President Joe Biden has been trying to warm the icy relations throughout his administration.

Trump has attacked Biden for appeasing China while simultaneously expressing cozy sentiments toward Chinas authoritarian president, Xi Jinping.

I like President Xi a lot, Trump said Sunday. He was a really good friend of mine during my time.

Trump has in the past praised Xi for the ironclad grip he has on his government and his people. In an interview with Fox Newss Sean Hannity in December, Trump said if he is re-elected for a second term he would be a dictator from day one.[/QUOTE]

"Being a classic Repub, America's economy doing historically well today while China's economy is crap really, really bothers Trump.

Therefore, he is already floating his plan to "turn this economy around" in classic Repub fashion should just enough of the American electorate prove themselves incapable of choosing the correct answer for what 2+2 equals and put him back into the White House:

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-nbc-2024/2024/02/04/id/1152209/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.wral.com/story/poll-20-point-deficit-on-economy-highlights-biden-s-struggles-vs-trump/21267551/[/URL]

"Being a classic Repub, America's economy doing historically well today while China's economy is crap really, really bothers Trump.

Therefore, he is already floating his plan to "turn this economy around" in classic Repub fashion should just enough of the American electorate prove themselves incapable of choosing the correct answer for what 2+2 equals and put him back into the White House:

Line up all available military and commercial cargo planes, all public and private buses.

All hands on deck.

All trains planes and buses.

Mass raids and deportations are coming REST ASSURED.

Stay tuned.

Jan 2025.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/04/us/politics/trump-fox-interview.html[/URL]

Allahu Akbar.

And thanks Scumbag Joe!!

"Being a classic Repub, America's economy doing historically well today while China's economy is crap really, really bothers Trump.

Therefore, he is already floating his plan to "turn this economy around" in classic Repub fashion should just enough of the American electorate prove themselves incapable of choosing the correct answer for what 2+2 equals and put him back into the White House:

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-china-tariffs/2024/02/04/id/1152208/[/URL]

[B]Beware Trump's admiration for Putin, Xi and Erdogan.[/B]

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/28e1e7da-37fb-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4[/URL]

[URL]https://news.knowledia.com/GB/en/articles/beware-trump-s-admiration-for-putin-xi-and-erdogan-4f3cc6d59182c0626c04fc4d5c37efe246b56267[/URL]

[B]Turkey's inflation sees biggest monthly jump since August, near 65% year-on-year.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/05/turkey-inflation-sees-biggest-monthly-jump-since-august.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]In January, Turkish inflation logged its biggest monthly jump since August with a 6.7% rise from December, while year-on-year inflation hit nearly 65%.

Food, beverages and tobacco, as well as transportation, all increased between roughly 5% and 7% month-on-month, while housing was up 7.4% since December.

The figures come two days after Turkeys appointment of a new central bank governor, Fatih Karahan.[/QUOTE]Do not doubt for one minute that Donald Wannabe Dictator Trump, ChristoFacist Mike, Moscow Mitch, virtually every Repub in Congress and every Repub voter would dearly LOVE to trade the historically positive USA Economy, Recovery, Expansion, Jobs Creation, Wage Gains and National Security as produced by President Joe Biden and the Dems for the horrific crap Economic and National. Security conditions produced by Trump's Authoritarian Dictator Idols in a nanosecond!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2891376][b]60%? I vote for 160%, and India should be next[/b]
"Being a classic Repub, America's economy doing historically well today while China's economy is crap really, really bothers Trump.

Therefore, he is already floating his plan to "turn this economy around" in classic Repub fashion should just enough of the American electorate prove themselves incapable of choosing the correct answer for what 2+2 equals and put him back into the White House:

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-china-tariffs/2024/02/04/id/1152208/[/URL][/QUOTE]You do know that it is the American consumer who ultimately pays those Failed Loser Trump Trade War Trump Tariffs, right?

It is not Indians in India or the Chinese in China who ultimately pay those Trump / Repub hyper inflated prices.

[B]Who Really Pays the Tariffs? U.S. Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices.
Dec. 15, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://taxfoundation.org/blog/who-really-pays-tariffs/[/URL]

Oh, Tariffs can be imposed without crippling the domestic economy or reducing jobs creation if the accompanying economic legislation and stewardship is sterling, brilliant, highly effective enough to override the damage done by them. Shhh. Don't tell Larry Summers about that. It would crush him.

Biden / the Dems have been able to manage that result.

Trump / the Repubs did not. And never will. It is simply beyond a Repub's grasp to know how to do that and do it.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891000][b]Article entitled OPINION[/b]
Not going to justify or dismiss this article.

I feel for the 1% of the population going through this, the individual, their families, the doctors who have to advise them of options. Why I feel this topic should not be political is that this subset of the population deserves to be able to go through this process privately. What I mean by this is, whether they're going to go to the bathroom, or being on a youth team sports not "designated" for them is inconsequential to US. But for whatever reasons, some of us feel like our chances / freedom is being taken away.

How? Because a straight person like to be in a public bathroom not having to, by chance, look at another human going to the bathroom who don't look like them. We did this already with other differences for many years in the US, South Africa, and Germany, and other countries. [/QUOTE]

Great post! Once again nicely put!

Yes, much of the right-winger agendas, would have Americans pay more attention looking over in the "right corner", while they take away your REAL freedoms and rights (ie. abortion, women's healthcare or affordable healthcare) over from the "left corner" of the political spectrum.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891000]Unlike people who are invested in this subject, to be soooo outraged by the thought of someone who isn't like them is SHARING a public spot, I don't care. ...

#2, that we are "protecting" kids from Pedos. ...
#3, it creates an unfair advantage for transgenders to compete with a girls in high school. ...

Raw stats: 1. 4% of pop between 13-17 identify themselves as trans; 34% participates in sports. Total 13-17 in US is about 300,000. ...

[URL]https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/[/URL]

To me, the article demonstrates how hard it is go through life "not Normal". Decisions you and I never need to think about or have to make. And then, how some among us go out of our ways to make it even harder on their lives just trying to live a "normal" life. I say this for black people who have to live through segregations, jews through the nazi era, gays throughout history, and now transgenders. [/QUOTE]

Right-wing politics have always used "minority" groups of society to inflame and enrage their base and divide the populous along racial, ethnic, cultural and sexual orientation lines. Especially when they can't run on a [i][b]"the economy is bad...vote for us!"[/b][/i] campaign.

Unfortunately it's a much proven divisive tactic, to obfuscate and scapegoat (as you've eloquently mentioned), the REAL problems of society.

Don't forget, it really says something (mostly foul) about a political party (ie. were NOT a REAL party), [b]that negatively focuses more on issues of the 1%[/b], than those of 99% of their populous.

Oh, no instead of addressing REAL ISSUES, they would have Americans heads in the sand, chasing "fool's gold", talking about meaningless culture wars, meaningless fictional purple character's sexual orientation, or as previously mentioned and foretold, the ominous boogeymen/boogeywomen, come to drag us all to hell.

Whether it is:[LIST]- book burning/banning {dictionaries included}
- bathroom hijinx
- the "boogeymen" and "boogeywomen" (ie. like Taylor Swift)
- purple dinosaurs and purple teletubbie babies[/LIST]It's [u]ALL JUST ONE BIG DISTRACTION[/u] to turn and [i]look over in the "right-corner" at less meaningful and ridiculous issues for the majority of Americans.[/i]

The funny (and most hilarious) thing, about what right-wing QAnon/MAGA politics is clearly showing Americans, that even when [b]good, viable bi-partisan bills and policies are put on the table[/b], to address REAL problems...[u]THEY DON'T WANT TO SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS![/u] (Note: Especially if it is the Dems, initiating said bi-partisan legislation. Which is almost always!)

WHY don't Repubs, want to solve real problems...you ask? [LIST]Simple put, [i]"hate", "nihilism", "anarchy", "thuggery", "grifting"[/i] and [i]"do nothing"[/i] politics have become the order of the day for Repubs and Trump.[/LIST][LIST]Simple put, on the one hand, they want to distract Americans (especially they're base) from anything substantive. And while distracted, "pick your pockets" clean, thus benefiting their wealth rich and billionaire donor class.[/LIST]Personally, I'll continue to primarily focus on the bi-partisan good being done to benefit ALL Americas.

Trump, ChristoFacist Mike and the Repub Pink Tinkle House Majority LOVE and PREFER Open Borders and widespread Fenantyl Addiction so much they simply cannot bring themselves to agree to even put up for a vote the Border Crisis Solution Bill that a Ruby Red Repub Senator from a Ruby Red Repub State negotiated and was quite happy about:

[B]Mike Johnson Won't Bring Senate Border Bill Up For A Vote.
Because you know who is pulling his strings![/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/mike-johnson-wont-bring-senate-border-bill[/URL]

[QUOTE]....."As speaker Johnson calls this even worse than expected, [b]the lead Republican senator who negotiated the bill, James Langford of Oklahoma[/b], responded to those comments."

[B]LANGFORD: I'm a little confused how it's worse than expected when it builds border wall, expands deportation flights, expands ICE officers, border patrol officers, detention beds, how it creates a faster process for deportation, how it clears up a lot of the long term issues and loopholes that have existed in the asylum law, and it gives us emergency authority that stops the chaos right now on the border. So I'm a little confused. I'll have to be able to get with the speaker's team on that and find out what part would be quote, unquote, worse than what we expected, based on the actual text. Hopefully they've had an opportunity to actually read through the text.[/b][/QUOTE]Otherwise promoted in MSM polls as "handling the border crisis better than Biden and the Dems. " Lololol.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2891045]

Just to be clear, I'm not against transgenders (when transitions are truly justified), but imagine that you have to compete with someone who's a priori faster and stronger than you are. How can you accommodate trans (even if there are very few of them) that wouldn't hurt competing female athletes who don't naturally possess these abilities? Is it even possible at all?[/QUOTE]The 34% number I put up as high schoolers participation rate is for entire student body, trans participation rate is 10-12%, according to some studies. But I used the 34% to demonstrate how miniscule the number is, even after inflated and doubled. The article attached demonstrates how small it really is in certain states. Example of the Article (listed below) states that in Ohio, a larger state had a total of 13 students participated since 2015. I'm going to assume that when you asserted "competing female athletes" it relates to individual like track and field, tennis, wrestling, etc. From the Ohio example, if you factor in team sports (basketball, volleyball, soccer, etc), which I thing would be more appropriate, we're looking at less than 1 person per year.

[URL]https://www.teenvogue.com/story/states-banning-trans-students-from-sports-outnumber-trans-athletes-some-places[/URL]

Your second question, and only considering individual sports, we would have seen domination of titles in every state, which is not true, so it is possible for straight females to defeat trans females in competition. Strongest and fastest don't always win. Usain Bolt had bad days where he's human and loses.

Usain Bolt fastest 100 M is 9. 58/ Flo-Jo is 10.49. Most male Olympians go under 10 seconds. And you can say ah-ha "see? And you would be correct. But we are not talking about the Olympics but rather high schools, where we encourage the kids to go out have fun, be healthy with exercise, and hope they learn about comraderies and friendships (good sportsmanship).

Right-wing Trump deranged nutter, [u]decapitates his own father![/u]

Yet another right-wing nutjob, murderer/killer and Trump cultist, named Justin Mohn, a Pennsylvania (PA) man, murders his father in a [b]cold blooded beheading,[/b] then posts the murdered gruesome corps, online via YouTube.

Once again, the right-wing psycho was acting on the usual dumb right-wing, "Trumpian" psychotic cuckoo paranoid bullshit. And of course the call to arms for so-called "patriots". Apparently he decapitated his father, because he'd worked as federal government employee for 20 years, calling his dad a traitor, along with all government officials.

[b]Justin Mohn charged after allegedly beheading father in Pennsylvania [/b]
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/01/31/levittown-pennsylvania-beheading-justin-mohn-youtube/[/URL]

Just another, in a long Line of right-wing nutjob, wacko, brainwashed murderers:[LIST]There's the wackjob with a hammer, who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband, now up on attempted murder charges, is using the "conspiracy defense".[/LIST][LIST]Or the gunman who opened fire inside a Washington pizzeria, psychoticly motivated by the "Pizziagate" Conspiracy theories.[/LIST][LIST]Or dimwitted and gullible 18 year gunman (mostly heavily radicalized and brainwashed through right-wing online chat groups), who murdered ten in the May 2022 massacre at a grocery store in a predominantly Black, neighborhood in Buffalo, N.Y.[/LIST][LIST]Or the wackjob murderer, who killed five in Colorado Springs, Club Q shooting, largely patronized by the LGBTQ community[/LIST]All have fallen down one or another [b][i]"right-wing conspiracy rabbit-hole"[/b][/i], only to remerge it would seem, as radicalized thugs, gullible foot-soliders and/or murderers and killers bound for [i]"murderer's row"[/i], [i]"an early grave"[/i] or [i]"phoney martyrdom".[/i]

You do know that it is the American consumer who ultimately pays those Failed Loser Trump Trade War Trump Tariffs, right?

It is not Indians in India or the Chinese in China who ultimately pay those Trump / Repub hyper inflated prices.

Who Really Pays the Tariffs? USA Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices.

Dec. 15,2021.

Oh, Tariffs can be imposed without crippling the domestic economy or reducing jobs creation if the accompanying economic legislation and stewardship is sterling, brilliant, highly effective enough to override the damage done by them. Shhh. Don't tell Larry Summers about that. It would crush him.

Biden / the Dems have been able to manage that result.

Trump / the Repubs did not. And never will. It is simply beyond a Repub's grasp to know how to do that and do it.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/06/house-fails-to-impeach-mayorkas/[/URL]

Why not just let the CCP appoint the guy they wanted to run the CDC CCP virus response.

Oh wait they did, Tony the TURD Fauci.

Is Trump looking to reprise his dubious TV role in a reboot of Apprentice, once again? Arguably, many would say, was the ONLY job (pretending to be a CEO/Businessman), he was ever qualified in doing.

But with the recent RNC 2020, 2022 (Repub "Pink Trickle" House) and 2023 election primary losses, Trump is poised once again, to cast blame, fault and the onus of the Repub failure, on one of his fellow [b]insurrection "loyalists"[/b] and [b]"lackeys".[/b] Who will it be this time?

Yes, it's painfully clear that, yet another Trump "loyalist", may soon find themselves, being outed under the Apprentice catchphrase, "You're fired!".

[b]Trump indicates it's time for RNC chair Ronna McDaniel to step down...[/b]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indicates-time-rnc-chair-ronna-mcdaniel-step-rcna137383[/URL]

Oh yeah! Ronna McDanial's (RNC Chair) fate, is all but sealed, as if she were a contestant on said TV show. But however and just maybe, [b]with enough grovelling[/b], sycophants like Ronna McDaniel, can bend the knee (no doubt), and renew her undying pledge, to the Orange Throne?

NOTE: Similar fates and dysfunctional behavior, are also being played-out across the country, as RNC Chair infighting, in several key states, have Repubs continuing to meltdown, in disarray, in this Trump "mob boss" style leadership era.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2891507]Trump, ChristoFacist Mike and the Repub Pink Tinkle House Majority LOVE and PREFER Open Borders and widespread Fenantyl Addiction so much they simply cannot bring themselves to agree to even put up for a vote the Border Crisis Solution Bill that a Ruby Red Repub Senator from a Ruby Red Repub State negotiated and was quite happy about:

[B]Mike Johnson Won't Bring Senate Border Bill Up For A Vote.
Because you know who is pulling his strings![/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/mike-johnson-wont-bring-senate-border-bill[/URL]

Otherwise promoted in MSM polls as "handling the border crisis better than Biden and the Dems. " Lololol.[/QUOTE]

I think President Joe Biden, has figured out Republicans - [b]Just call their "SORRY-ASS" bluffs!!! [/b]

Since it's abundantly clear, Republican politicking, is really just some sort of, butchered western style of [i]"kabuki theater"[/i] and is really all just performative. It stands to reason, the moment you ante up and practically give them everything they want, they pipe-down, shrivel-up and fold-up like a cheap tent.

If it is NOT yet clear to Repubs by now...Biden is playing CHESS to their CHECKER play.

[b]NYT: On the Border, Republicans Set a Trap, Then Fell Into It[/b][LIST][i]"Congressional Republicans thought they had set a clever trap for Democrats that would accomplish complementary political and policy goals.

Their idea was to tie approval of military assistance to Ukraine to tough border security demands that Democrats would never accept, allowing Republicans to block the money for Kyiv that many of them oppose while simultaneously enabling them to pound Democrats for refusing to halt a surge of migrants at the border. It was to be a win-win headed into Novembers elections.

[b]But Democrats tripped them up by offering substantial [u] almost unheard-of concessions[/u][/b] on immigration policy without insisting on much in return. Now it is Republicans who are rapidly abandoning a compromise that gave them much of what they wanted, leaving aid to Ukraine in deep jeopardy, border policy in turmoil and Congress again flailing as multiple crises at home and abroad go without attention because of a legislative stalemate."[/i]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/us/politics/border-republicans-ukraine-bill.html[/URL][/LIST]
Yes, at very selective times (like now), I think Dems should call Repubs bluff. Thereby essentially taking away anything the Repubs have to bemoan and [i] "b1tch about"[/i] or campaign on....kkkk!

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/02/joe-bidens-people-are-all-out-of-excuses/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2891952]I think President Joe Biden, has figured out Republicans - [b]Just call their "SORRY-ASS" bluffs!!! [/b]

Since it's abundantly clear, Republican politicking, is really just some sort of, butchered western style of [i]"kabuki theater"[/i] and is really all just performative. It stands to reason, the moment you ante up and practically give them everything they want, they pipe-down, shrivel-up and fold-up like a cheap tent.

If it is NOT yet clear to Repubs by now...Biden is playing CHESS to their CHECKER play.

[b]NYT: On the Border, Republicans Set a Trap, Then Fell Into It[/b][LIST][i]"Congressional Republicans thought they had set a clever trap for Democrats that would accomplish complementary political and policy goals.

Their idea was to tie approval of military assistance to Ukraine to tough border security demands that Democrats would never accept, allowing Republicans to block the money for Kyiv that many of them oppose while simultaneously enabling them to pound Democrats for refusing to halt a surge of migrants at the border. It was to be a win-win headed into Novembers elections.

[b]But Democrats tripped them up by offering substantial [u] almost unheard-of concessions[/u][/b] on immigration policy without insisting on much in return. Now it is Republicans who are rapidly abandoning a compromise that gave them much of what they wanted, leaving aid to Ukraine in deep jeopardy, border policy in turmoil and Congress again flailing as multiple crises at home and abroad go without attention because of a legislative stalemate."[/i]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/us/politics/border-republicans-ukraine-bill.html[/URL][/LIST]
Yes, at very selective times (like now), I think Dems should call Repubs bluff. Thereby essentially taking away anything the Repubs have to bemoan and [i] "b1tch about"[/i] or campaign on....kkkk![/QUOTE]However, Trump TV will still lie about it in order to bamboozle the dumb Repub hillbillies who fall for his shit to continue supporting and voting for Trump and his Repub Party of Open Borders, High Crime, Economic Disasters, Massive Jobs Destruction, Repeal of Democracy and Replace it with Authoritarian Dictatorships at Home and Abroad, etc;.

[B]Border deal sponsors went on Fox News to debunk a false claim about the bill. Fox kept spreading it.
The network continues to spread the falsehood that border deal will allow 5,000 migrants across the border every day. The bill would actually trigger a wave of new border restrictions.[/B]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/border-deal-sponsors-went-fox-news-debunk-false-claim-about-bill-fox-kept-spreading-it[/URL]

Pro Repub Media don't even wait for a few minutes of history to pass before launching into their classic Twisty Repub Revisionist History of it! LOL.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2891563]The 34% number I put up as high schoolers participation rate is for entire student body, trans participation rate is 10-12%, according to some studies. But I used the 34% to demonstrate how miniscule the number is, even after inflated and doubled. The article attached demonstrates how small it really is in certain states. Example of the Article (listed below) states that in Ohio, a larger state had a total of 13 students participated since 2015. I'm going to assume that when you asserted "competing female athletes" it relates to individual like track and field, tennis, wrestling, etc. From the Ohio example, if you factor in team sports (basketball, volleyball, soccer, etc), which I thing would be more appropriate, we're looking at less than 1 person per year.

[URL]https://www.teenvogue.com/story/states-banning-trans-students-from-sports-outnumber-trans-athletes-some-places[/URL]

Your second question, and only considering individual sports, we would have seen domination of titles in every state, which is not true, so it is possible for straight females to defeat trans females in competition. Strongest and fastest don't always win. Usain Bolt had bad days where he's human and loses.

Usain Bolt fastest 100 M is 9. 58/ Flo-Jo is 10.49. Most male Olympians go under 10 seconds. And you can say ah-ha "see? And you would be correct. But we are not talking about the Olympics but rather high schools, where we encourage the kids to go out have fun, be healthy with exercise, and hope they learn about comraderies and friendships (good sportsmanship).[/QUOTE]This is a eye-opening article, thanks. I must concur.

[QUOTE]Fischer, the Post reports, is the only known transgender student athlete in the state.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]In Utah, one of the states where a judge has temporarily blocked a sports ban, parents lodged formal complaints after one student excelled beyond her competitors in a state-level competition last year, according to the Deseret News. The complaints resulted in an investigation into whether the student is transgender (she is not). According to the Post, Utah has 75,000 student athletes in the state. Only four of them are transgender."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Ohio is currently considering a ban on transgender students in sports, after the state House of Representatives passed a bill that would do as much in June. The initial bill would have required genital inspections on any student whose biological sex was disputed, but that measure has since been removed, according to The Hill. But the Cleveland Scene reports that [b]of the 400,000 student athletes in Ohio, only 13 since 2015 have been transgender, and only three have competed at the high school level.[/b][/QUOTE]My goodness, what a bunch of morons!

"You do know that it is the American consumer who ultimately pays those Failed Loser Trump Trade War Trump Tariffs, right?

It is not Indians in India or the Chinese in China who ultimately pay those Trump / Repub hyper inflated prices.

Who Really Pays the Tariffs? USA Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices.

Dec. 15,2021.

[URL]https://taxfoundation.org/blog/who-really-pays-tariffs/[/URL]

Oh, Tariffs can be imposed without crippling the domestic economy or reducing jobs creation if the accompanying economic legislation and stewardship is sterling, brilliant, highly effective enough to override the damage done by them. Shhh. Don't tell Larry Summers about that. It would crush him.

Biden / the Dems have been able to manage that result.

Trump / the Repubs did not. And never will. It is simply beyond a Repub's grasp to know how to do that and do it. ".

What do we know?

We know all of you evil mofos hate the USA.

Like you, you haven't stepped a toe inside the USA in 12+ yrs and never plan on returning (if I was president your citizenship would be revoked).

(you're so pro illegal alien, I would give your citizenship to someone else).

You are pro anything, anti USA.

And pro anything pro CCP.

Lets hear your "honest" (LMFAO) opinion of TPP?

If tariffs are bad for the USA why does the CCP and you (and tiny12) hate them so much.

CCP tariffs imposed on the CCP have brought down prices their which have saved the USA economy.

From the likes of Scumbag Joe and Scumbag Nancy.

Joe Manchin also helped by blocking BBB Scumbag Joe tried destroying the USA with.

I think Manchin would be a decent President he and I see things very similarly!!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2892027]"You do know that it is the American consumer who ultimately pays those Failed Loser Trump Trade War Trump Tariffs, right?

It is not Indians in India or the Chinese in China who ultimately pay those Trump / Repub hyper inflated prices.

Who Really Pays the Tariffs? USA Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices.

Dec. 15,2021.

[URL]https://taxfoundation.org/blog/who-really-pays-tariffs/[/URL]

Oh, Tariffs can be imposed without crippling the domestic economy or reducing jobs creation if the accompanying economic legislation and stewardship is sterling, brilliant, highly effective enough to override the damage done by them. Shhh. Don't tell Larry Summers about that. It would crush him.

Biden / the Dems have been able to manage that result.

Trump / the Repubs did not. And never will. It is simply beyond a Repub's grasp to know how to do that and do it. ".

What do we know?

We know all of you evil mofos hate the USA.

Like you, you haven't stepped a toe inside the USA in 12+ yrs and never plan on returning (if I was president your citizenship would be revoked).[/QUOTE]You're now arguing that Chinese tariffs imposed on Chinese imports brought down Inflation / Prices on those goods their / there and that saved the USA economy?

I'm not even sure what to put into a Google Search to find out what the hell you are talking about and where the hell you picked up such an idea.

Is that a new mentally deranged Twisty Repub Trump concoction to revise the historical fact that his economic and national security policies and stewardship produced the worst results of all time?

"You're now arguing that Chinese tariffs imposed on Chinese imports brought down Inflation / Prices on those goods their / there and that saved the USA economy?

I'm not even sure what to put into a Google Search to find out what the hell you are talking about and where the hell you picked up such an idea.

Is that a new mentally deranged Twisty Repub Trump concoction to revise the historical fact that his economic and national security policies and stewardship produced the worst results of all time?

Yes saved the USA from a horrible mentally defective Scumbag Joe / Democrat recession.

As did Manchin blocking BBB.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2892238]"You're now arguing that Chinese tariffs imposed on Chinese imports brought down Inflation / Prices on those goods their / there and that saved the USA economy?

I'm not even sure what to put into a Google Search to find out what the hell you are talking about and where the hell you picked up such an idea.

Is that a new mentally deranged Twisty Repub Trump concoction to revise the historical fact that his economic and national security policies and stewardship produced the worst results of all time?

Yes saved the USA from a horrible mentally defective Scumbag Joe / Democrat recession.

As did Manchin blocking BBB.[/QUOTE]Well, now that is very interesting considering Trump's Tariffs didn't do one good thing for the USA economy any more than his $2+Trillion deficit addition TCJA created more jobs with it than without it or his defunding and removal of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs 5 months before the first Covid cases emerged there or his lying about it in sync with Xi's wishes all through 2020 did.

But after Biden and the Dems proposed, fought for and passed the American Rescue Plan, the Chips and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, Infrastructure DECADE, along with supporting Union AND Non Union jobs, wage gains, all producing more jobs and wage gains under Bidenomic than under any Repub or two even three Repubs of the past 100 years or so ever produced in their entire so-called presidencies as well as lowering crime was in some way due to the extra consumer tax every American had to pay in tariffs Trump stupidly imposed that drove the USA Agriculture and Manufacturing industries into recession even before Trump's Pandemic Mass Murdered a million Americans and wiped out Tens on Millons of jobs?

LOL. Good thinking. Trump must have come up with that idiocy for you, right?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2892306]More Trump Revisionist History? AKA Lies? ...

But after Biden and the Dems proposed, fought for and passed the American Rescue Plan, the Chips and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, Infrastructure DECADE, along with supporting Union AND Non Union jobs, wage gains, all producing more jobs and wage gains under Bidenomic than under any Repub or two even three Repubs of the past 100 years or so ever produced in their entire so-called presidencies as well as lowering crime was in some way due to the extra consumer tax every American had to pay in tariffs Trump stupidly imposed that drove the USA Agriculture and Manufacturing industries into recession even before Trump's Pandemic Mass Murdered a million Americans and wiped out Tens on Millons of jobs?

LOL. Good thinking. Trump must have come up with that idiocy for you, right?[/QUOTE]Agreed.

Yes, revisionist history, lies, innuendo, obfuscation, fake impeachments, falsehoods, false equivalencies, projection, fake "photoshopped" Hunter Biden texts messages by Bryon Donald (R-FL), Taylor Swift boogeyman/women, purple dinosaurs/Teletubbie culture wars and QAnon conspiracies is all they have left, [U][i][b]in that proverbial "political fuel tank".[/b][/i][/U].

Take the one of the latest Trump fueled, fake-ass and staged stunts he pulled, when trying to rival [B]President Joe Biden's success[/B] and solidarity win, with the UAW labour strikes. Note, this was the very 1st time a sitting US President had ever jointed the picket-line of striking auto workers, which had a whooping support of 75% of Americans.

So naturally and not wanting to be outdone, but true to form, as he's done in the past, fraudster Trump pays for [I]"kabuki theater" style[/I] auto union rally.

New campaign finance filings, show [B]Trump paid $20,000[/B] to the [B]nonunion auto parts plant (MI)[/B] [Sept 27, 2023], he used to stage the event and had NON-UNION WORKERS and ACTORS, to hold up signs to [B]pretending[/B] to be union workers. Many of the fake signs said "union members for Trump" and "auto workers for Trump" and all of the people interviewed, holding the signs, turned out to be neither.

Trump and Repubs, are just simply a fake, embarrassing and dangerous cult!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2888268]Originally Posted by Elvis2008
But this is just Xpartan and his Democratic name calling brain at work. If you are against the billions being poured down the drain in Ukraine, your sole reason for wanting that according to him is you love Putin and want to suck his dick.[/QUOTE]Does anyone still have any doubts about MAGA's dick-sucking priorities?

[QUOTE][b]Why MAGA Loves Russia and Hates Ukraine[/b]

As I type this newsletter, continued American aid for Ukraine is in grave doubt. Tucker Carlson is in Moscow to conduct a friendly interview with Vladimir Putin. And were receiving reports from the front lines that Russia is advancing, in part because of Ukrainian ammunition shortages. In short, the war is reaching a critical stage, and Ukraine may lose because Republicans are willing to hand authoritarian Russia a historic military victory rather than supply further aid to a democratic ally.

Ronald Reagan isnt just rolling over in his grave; he may also lurch from it in a fit of incredulous rage. This is a remarkable and potentially catastrophic reversal by a political party that is in a state of near-total, frequently random ideological transformation.

To explain the intensity of Republican resistance to Ukraine aid, I need to return to a concept I wrote about in November: that of bespoke realities. My friend Rene DiResta, the technical research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, coined the term, and she wrote that it refers to the bubble realities constructed by communities that operate with their own norms, media, trusted authorities and frameworks of facts.

Among those who oppose aid to Ukraine, there are certainly several paleoconservatives who object on classic isolationist grounds: Its not our fight, our support is costly, we might find ourselves inadvertently embroiled in war, and so on. But the mass Republican movement against Ukraine is rooted far less in policy than it is in a particular bespoke reality of the MAGA universe, in which Ukraine is a pernicious villain, Putin is a flawed hero and Russia should have crushed Ukraine long ago.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/08/opinion/why-maga-loves-russia-and-hates-ukraine.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2892510]Agreed.

Yes, revisionist history, lies, innuendo, obfuscation, fake impeachments, falsehoods, false equivalencies, projection, fake "photoshopped" Hunter Biden texts messages by Bryon Donald (R-FL), Taylor Swift boogeyman/women, purple dinosaurs/Teletubbie culture wars and QAnon conspiracies is all they have left, [U][i][b]in that proverbial "political fuel tank".[/b][/i][/U].

Take the one of the latest Trump fueled, fake-ass and staged stunts he pulled, when trying to rival [B]President Joe Biden's success[/B] and solidarity win, with the UAW labour strikes. Note, this was the very 1st time a sitting US President had ever jointed the picket-line of striking auto workers, which had a whooping support of 75% of Americans.

So naturally and not wanting to be outdone, but true to form, as he's done in the past, fraudster Trump pays for [I]"kabuki theater" style[/I] auto union rally.

New campaign finance filings, show [B]Trump paid $20,000[/B] to the [B]nonunion auto parts plant (MI)[/B] Sept 27, 2023, he used to stage the event and had NON-UNION WORKERS and ACTORS, to hold up signs to [B]pretending[/B] to be union workers. Many of the fake signs said "union members for Trump" and "auto workers for Trump" and all of the people interviewed, holding the signs, turned out to be neither.

Trump and Repubs, are just simply a fake, embarrassing and dangerous cult![/QUOTE]Trump paying actors to pretend to support him goes back to the very beginning of his Trump Brand Infomercial so-called presidential run.

Your example:

[B]Trump paid $20,000 to rent plant for fake union auto worker event: filing.
Feb 5, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-paid-20-000-rent-061218337.html[/URL]

And in the beginning:

[B]Donald Trump reportedly paid actors $50 to cheer for him at his 2016 announcement.
June 18, 2015[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/paid-actors-at-donald-trump-announcement-2015-6[/URL]

Trump knew from his years as a teleprompter-reading fake successful businessman game show host that if you falsely portray yourself as popular or highly regarded among at least some people somewhere and often enough there is a good chance the most gullible, lonely, weak-minded rubes out there will eventually consider you their lord and savior.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/02/08/biden-calls-egypts-sisi-president-of-mexico-after-blasting-memory-concerns-from-special-counsel-report/?sh=4d85fbfa7f83[/URL]

Like they do on the farm!!

"Well, now that is very interesting considering Trump's Tariffs didn't do one good thing for the USA economy any more than his $2+Trillion deficit addition TCJA created more jobs with it than without it or his defunding and removal of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs 5 months before the first Covid cases emerged there or his lying about it in sync with Xi's wishes all through 2020 did.

But after Biden and the Dems proposed, fought for and passed the American Rescue Plan, the Chips and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, Infrastructure DECADE, along with supporting Union AND Non Union jobs, wage gains, all producing more jobs and wage gains under Bidenomic than under any Repub or two even three Repubs of the past 100 years or so ever produced in their entire so-called presidencies as well as lowering crime was in some way due to the extra consumer tax every American had to pay in tariffs Trump stupidly imposed that drove the USA Agriculture and Manufacturing industries into recession even before Trump's Pandemic Mass Murdered a million Americans and wiped out Tens on Millons of jobs?

LOL. Good thinking. Trump must have come up with that idiocy for you, right?

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4458073-biden-special-council-report-harris/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2892604][URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/02/08/biden-calls-egypts-sisi-president-of-mexico-after-blasting-memory-concerns-from-special-counsel-report/?sh=4d85fbfa7f83[/URL]

Like they do on the farm!![/QUOTE]Biden was justifiably angry. He was referring to a border issue. He got the leader's name right but obviously had the border with Mexico on his mind as well, likely from having just engaged in a few hours working on convincing Open Borders Repubs to finally fund the border protections they have been squealing like stuck pigs about for years.

A one word misspeak like the one Biden made happens with professional media hosts reading a teleprompter every 30 minutes.

Now, if Biden had said, "Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico" without even noticing he got it wrong, I would worry about his mental capacity.

If Biden had said, "I talked to the Covfefe of Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico", then I would say he is ready for the loony bin today.

But he didn't.

Also, by stark contrast, Nancy or is it Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Trump and his numbskull kids have in just the past 1-2 years admitted under Oath that "I don't recall" well over 100 times among them on critical legal questions, not just 2-3 times.

I love that a lifelong Repub Special Prosecutor Trump administration appointee has put a partisan Repub James Comey-style inapproriate political spin out there to the effect that a "Well-meaning, sympathetic old Dem with a poor memory" can and has whipped the piss out of every Repub so-called potus in history on economic, national security, lower crime, jobs creation, wage growth, GDP Growth and Stock Market Gains results. Lolol.

"Biden was justifiably angry. He was referring to a border issue. He got the leader's name right but obviously had the border with Mexico on his mind as well, likely from having just engaged in a few hours working on convincing Open Borders Repubs to finally fund the border protections they have been squealing like stuck pigs about for years.

A one word misspeak like the one Biden made happens with professional media hosts reading a teleprompter every 30 minutes.

Now, if Biden had said, "Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico" without even noticing he got it wrong, I would worry about his mental capacity.

If Biden had said, "I talked to the Covfefe of Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico", then I would say he is ready for the loony bin today.

But he didn't.

Also, by stark contrast, Nancy or is it Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Trump and his numbskull kids have in just the past 1-2 years admitted under Oath that "I don't recall" well over 100 times among them on critical legal questions, not just 2-3 times.

I love that a lifelong Repub Special Prosecutor Trump administration appointee has put a partisan Repub James Comey-style inapproriate political spin out there to the effect that a "Well-meaning, sympathetic old Dem with a poor memory" can and has whipped the piss out of every Repub so-called potus in history on economic, national security, lower crime, jobs creation, wage growth, GDP Growth and Stock Market Gains results. Lolol. ".

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trumps-big-day/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=third[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/im-finally-beginning-to-believe-its-possible-joe-biden-steps-down/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=second[/URL]

LMFAO.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2892516]Does anyone still have any doubts about MAGA's dick-sucking priorities? As I type this newsletter, continued American aid for Ukraine is in grave doubt. Tucker Carlson is in Moscow to conduct a friendly interview with Vladimir Putin. And were receiving reports from the front lines that Russia is advancing, in part because of Ukrainian ammunition shortages. In short, the war is reaching a critical stage, and Ukraine may lose because Republicans are willing to hand authoritarian Russia a historic military victory rather than supply further aid to a democratic ally.
[/QUOTE]Oh, I see. If Ukraine wins, it is because of Democrats. If it loses, it is due to Republicans. This is what I mean about being a Democratic douche.

So the interview had not even happened, but the NY Times called it "friendly". This is the paper that likes to call itself the paper of record literally being douche like and commenting on something that had not even happened as fact.

And if you are a Democratic douche, you do not need to see this interview. You do not need to listen to Putin. We will tell you what to think about Putin. You are a MAGA POS loser if you actually listen to Putin and make up your own mind about what he said. You can ignore the whole thing because it is "friendly". It is propaganda. We the NYT will tell you what to think.

Of course, I watched the interview. Tucker brought up Nordstream and who Putin thought blew it up. He did not say. He said look at who is capable and who said they would. Of course, he meant the USA. He then said of Germany that it is paying through the nose for LNG versus getting gas from Russia. The economic sanctions that were supposed to be so effective have hurt Germany more than Russia and Russia has overtaken Germany as Europe's largest economy. [URL]https://www.intellinews.com/russia-overtakes-germany-to-become-fifth-biggest-economy-in-the-world-in-gdp-on-a-ppp-basis-286944/[/URL]#text=Looking%20 at%20 GDP%20 in%20 PPP, in%20 Europe%2 see%20 worth%20%245.3%20 trillion.

And Russia was supposed to be hurting so.

Then of course, there was the dollar, the basis for American power. Putin cannot believe that the dollar, the cornerstone of American power, is being tossed away. He said Russia has gone from doing 50% of its transactions in dollars to 13%. For those of us who understand economics, we want there always to be a high demand for the dollar. Putin is asking why are you messing with that demand.

What I see is Americans losing. I see Germans losing. I see Russians losing. I see Ukrainians losing. The only winners I see are neocons and the American military industrial complex. They have won and are winning. And they are trying to convince everyone that victory over Russia, whatever that means, is worth the price, any price, so they can keep on winning.

"Does anyone still have any doubts about MAGA's dick-sucking priorities?

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/08/opinion/why-maga-loves-russia-and-hates-ukraine.html[/URL]".

MAGA Republicans' hatred and contempt for Volodymyr Zelensky and the Ukrainian cause is shockingly vehement. Candace Owens says she wants to "punch" Zelensky. Donald Trump Jr. Calls him an "international welfare queen. " Carlson says he dresses "like the manager of a strip club. " It's all bizarre and unreasonable. And it all fits the broader MAGA narrative.

Let's break it down, step by step. First, if you're stumped by the notion that Ukraine is a villain, you may need reminding of a conspiracy theory that is now largely forgotten but was prevalent on the right at the time of Donald Trump's first impeachment. In his infamous conversation with Zelensky — the one that triggered the impeachment — Trump asked Zelensky about a "CrowdStrike" server allegedly being held in Ukraine.

This is a reference to a longstanding MAGA claim that it was Ukraine and not Russia that interfered with the 2016 election. There's no evidence of any kind to support the allegation, and Trump's own advisers repeatedly debunked it. But my Times colleague Scott Shane described how the theory gained purchase on the right nonetheless. "On 4 chan and pro-Trump spaces on Reddit, on websites like [URL]ZeroHedge.com[/URL] and Washington's Blog," he wrote in 2019, "you can find plenty of speculation about evil manipulation by CrowdStrike and secret maneuvers by Ukrainians — often inflamed by Mr. Trump's own statements. ".

Combine that claim with the fact that Hunter Biden had a lucrative business relationship with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, and MAGA found itself with the perfect villain to counter the Trump-Russia narrative. Trump wasn't in bed with a hostile power in Russia; the Democrats were in bed with a hostile power in Ukraine.

But it goes further still. To MAGA, Putin isn't just innocent; he's admirable. Heroic, even, in some ways. He isn't defined as an authoritarian dictator at the helm of one of America's chief geopolitical rivals. No, he's defined as an anti-woke leader who defends Christian civilization by taking on the decadent West.

In a 2017 speech at Hillsdale College, the Claremont Institute's Christopher Caldwell declared that if "we were to use traditional measures for understanding leaders, which involve the defense of borders and national flourishing, Putin would count as the pre-eminent statesman of our time. " In Caldwell's words, Putin "is not the president of a feminist NGO. He is not a transgender-rights activist. He is not an ombudsman appointed by the United Nations to make and deliver slide shows about green energy. ".

In 2021, The American Conservative's Rod Dreher praised a Putin speech condemning the West and said that Putin and Hungary's Viktor Orban were "completely clear and completely correct on the society-destroying nature of wokeness and postliberal leftism. " (It should be noted that Dreher has nonetheless unequivocally condemned Putin's invasion.) A 2022 exchange between Steve Bannon and Erik Prince, the founder of private military contractor Blackwater, was even more illustrative. Bannon hosted Prince on his podcast shortly after Putin's invasion and proclaimed Putin "anti-woke. " Prince replied supportively that the people of Russia "still know which bathroom to use. " And Bannon kept the thought alive, asking, "How many genders are there in Russia?

Jordan Peterson, meanwhile, went so far as to imply that Russia's aggressive attack may have been merely self-defense against the threat of Western cultural decadence. The culture war, he mused, may be "serious enough to increase the probability that Russia, say, will be motivated to invade and potentially incapacitate Ukraine merely to keep the pathological West out of that country, which is a key part of the historically Russian sphere of influence. ".

There is an old saying: The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Ideally, the phrase means that Americans set aside their domestic differences to address foreign threats to the nation. But in this hyperpolarized era, the far right gets this equation precisely backward. They are aiding Vladimir Putin because they see him, too, as opposed to their domestic enemies.

Before the war, MAGA's combination of hostility toward Ukraine and admiration of Putin created a very particular narrative: Rugged, manly, traditional Russia was physically and spiritually stronger than the liberalizing West, and it would roll over Ukraine with only token resistance. Indeed, before the war, Ted Cruz shared a tweet in which he contrasted Russian and American military ads. The USA Ad, he claimed, showed our military to be "woke" and "emasculated. " But the Russian ad reeked of masculine aggression. How could the West — let alone tiny Ukraine — stand against such manly men?

"Biden was justifiably angry. He was referring to a border issue. He got the leader's name right but obviously had the border with Mexico on his mind as well, likely from having just engaged in a few hours working on convincing Open Borders Repubs to finally fund the border protections they have been squealing like stuck pigs about for years.

A one word misspeak like the one Biden made happens with professional media hosts reading a teleprompter every 30 minutes.

Now, if Biden had said, "Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico" without even noticing he got it wrong, I would worry about his mental capacity.

If Biden had said, "I talked to the Covfefe of Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico", then I would say he is ready for the loony bin today.

But he didn't.

Also, by stark contrast, Nancy or is it Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Trump and his numbskull kids have in just the past 1-2 years admitted under Oath that "I don't recall" well over 100 times among them on critical legal questions, not just 2-3 times.

I love that a lifelong Repub Special Prosecutor Trump administration appointee has put a partisan Repub James Comey-style inapproriate political spin out there to the effect that a "Well-meaning, sympathetic old Dem with a poor memory" can and has whipped the piss out of every Repub so-called potus in history on economic, national security, lower crime, jobs creation, wage growth, GDP Growth and Stock Market Gains results. Lolol. ".

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/09/carney-on-kudlow-bidens-mental-incompetency-was-only-revealed-to-give-the-fbi-an-excuse-not-to-prosecute-him/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2892767]"Biden was justifiably angry. He was referring to a border issue. He got the leader's name right but obviously had the border with Mexico on his mind as well, likely from having just engaged in a few hours working on convincing Open Borders Repubs to finally fund the border protections they have been squealing like stuck pigs about for years.

A one word misspeak like the one Biden made happens with professional media hosts reading a teleprompter every 30 minutes.

Now, if Biden had said, "Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico" without even noticing he got it wrong, I would worry about his mental capacity.

If Biden had said, "I talked to the Covfefe of Mexico Mexico Mexico Mexico", then I would say he is ready for the loony bin today.[/QUOTE]The longtime hardcore Trumpster Repub Special Prosecutor did not indict Joe Biden because Joe Biden did not ignore a subpoena to give back the relatively few classified documents his staff packed, did not defiantly and criminally announce, "They are MINE! They belong to ME"! He did not then try to hide them. He did not then suggest anyone else hide them. Joe Biden, unlike Trump, is too lucid, too aware, too cognitively competent to do something that ridiculously stupid in the first place or as spectacularly stupid as to think he could get away with it in the second place.

It's pretty simple really.

Re your link; Who the hell would listen to Kudlow regarding anything related to the economy, much less anyone affiliated with Breitbart appearing on Kudlow supposedly knowledgeable about the economy? Lolol.

If only they could have found Trump wandering aimlessly around the nearest KFC kitchen and led him by the hand to the studio, that would have represented a Historic Summit Meeting of Economic Ignoramuses.

[B]President Drink Bleach says what? Trump now claims he beat George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
Trump was already dumb, but he's getting worse yet MAGA doesn't care. The press should cover his decline anyway.[/B]

[URL]https://www.salon.com/2023/09/27/drink-bleach-says-what-now-claims-he-beat-george-w-bush-and-barack-obama/[/URL]

Bangladesh and Pakistan.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/asia/pakistan-election-imran-kahn.html[/URL]

They are trying to turn us into a 3rd world shithole, just look at the southern border.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2892741]Oh, I see. If Ukraine wins, it is because of Democrats. If it loses, it is due to Republicans. This is what I mean about being a Democratic douche.

So the interview had not even happened, but the NY Times called it "friendly". This is the paper that likes to call itself the paper of record literally being douche like and commenting on something that had not even happened as fact.

And if you are a Democratic douche, you do not need to see this interview. You do not need to listen to Putin. We will tell you what to think about Putin. You are a MAGA POS loser if you actually listen to Putin and make up your own mind about what he said. You can ignore the whole thing because it is "friendly". It is propaganda. We the NYT will tell you what to think.

Of course, I watched the interview. Tucker brought up Nordstream and who Putin thought blew it up. He did not say. He said look at who is capable and who said they would. Of course, he meant the USA. He then said of Germany that it is paying through the nose for LNG versus getting gas from Russia. The economic sanctions that were supposed to be so effective have hurt Germany more than Russia and Russia has overtaken Germany as Europe's largest economy. [URL]https://www.intellinews.com/russia-overtakes-germany-to-become-fifth-biggest-economy-in-the-world-in-gdp-on-a-ppp-basis-286944/[/URL]#text=Looking%20 at%20 GDP%20 in%20 PPP, in%20 Europe%2 see%20 worth%20%245.3%20 trillion.

Then of course, there was the dollar, the basis for American power. Putin cannot believe that the dollar, the cornerstone of American power, is being tossed away. He said Russia has gone from doing 50% of its transactions in dollars to 13%. For those of us who understand economics, we want there always to be a high demand for the dollar. Putin is asking why are you messing with that demand.

What I see is Americans losing. I see Germans losing. I see Russians losing. I see Ukrainians losing. The only winners I see are neocons and the American military industrial complex. They have won and are winning. And they are trying to convince everyone that victory over Russia, whatever that means, is worth the price, any price, so they can keep on winning.[/QUOTE]Here we are again. All over the place as always with your pointless ramblings, deflecting from a very simple fact.

Right-wing Republicans, just like their lord and savior, love sucking Putin's dick. Nothing else would explain why they hate Ukraine so much.

That's the main reason why the wingers-hijacked House won't give money to Ukraine.

The second reason is also quite simple: When their lord and savior tells them to jump, they jump as high as they can and never ask any questions.

The third reason: It's in their DNA to sabotage Dems, the less sense it makes -- the better.

The end.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2892905][b]Elvis doesn't disappoint [/b]
Here we are again. All over the place as always with your pointless ramblings, deflecting from a very simple fact.

Right-wing Republicans, just like their lord and savior, love sucking Putin's dick. Nothing else would explain why they hate Ukraine so much.

That's the main reason why the wingers-hijacked House won't give money to Ukraine.

The second reason is also quite simple: When their lord and savior tells them to jump, they jump as high as they can and never ask any questions.

The third reason: It's in their DNA to sabotage Dems, the less sense it makes -- the better.

The end.[/QUOTE]I would only add that they do ask one question when their confused and blithering America-hating lord and savior tells them to jump; they ask "How high"? And they ask it [I]on the way UP[/I].

The latest blithering and lying from their lord and savior:

[B]A list of lies Trump told tonight.
in addition to slurring his words, confusing what time and day it is, and pledging to repeal every gun safety law.[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/biden-harris-campaign-hits-trump-lie[/URL]

See link for the list of lies, too many to copy and paste here.

BTW, how many Mainstream Media outlets rushed to devote an hour to the fact that Trump referred to it being Saturday in that Festival of Lies when it was actually Friday?

LOL. Of course, it is possible that MSM merely assumed that was another of his lies for whatever inexplicable reason and, as is their latest aid to getting him back in the White House, choose to protect him by declining to cover his thousands upon thousands of lies in their outlets anymore.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2892958]BTW, how many Mainstream Media outlets rushed to devote an hour to the fact that Trump referred to it being Saturday in that Festival of Lies when it was actually Friday?

LOL. Of course, it is possible that MSM merely assumed that was another of his lies for whatever inexplicable reason and, as is their latest aid to getting him back in the White House, choose to protect him by declining to cover his thousands upon thousands of lies in their outlets anymore.[/QUOTE]Good question. I guess, MSM are so used to his insanity over the years that they don't even notice. In other words, it's not the news anymore.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2892905]Right-wing Republicans, just like their lord and savior, love sucking Putin's dick. Nothing else would explain why they hate Ukraine so much.

That's the main reason why the wingers-hijacked House won't give money to Ukraine.

The end.[/QUOTE]Other part that was crazy with Putin interview is Putin confirmed something everyone who follows the Ukraine War knew: Ukraine and Russia had a peace deal and Boris Johnson destroyed it. My guess is he did so after being told to by Biden, but that is not fact.

So Putin does the interview, confirms this already known fact, but now that this fact is much more widely known, and Bojo fucking loses it. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/boris-johnson-has-meltdown-after-being-exposed-sabotaging-ukraine-peace-deal[/URL].

In his video, this asshole Bojo does not even deny it.

Xpartan, you try to make this a red-blue conservative-liberal issue but it is not. It is neocon, pro military industrial complex people versus everyone else. Nikki Haley would be the same type of war monger Biden is.

If a few million Ukrainians and Russians have to die so the defense contractors can make their billions, you are like, so be it.

Thing is after Russiagate, who should Republicans trust? We know the intelligence agencies and you Democratic douches lied your asses off about Russiagate and now it is more of the same. If we do not save Ukraine, all of Europe is going to fall right?

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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2893102]Good question. I guess, MSM are so used to his insanity over the years that they don't even notice. In other words, it's not the news anymore.[/QUOTE]From the moment Trump descended that escalator, fact checking and correcting his 30,000++ publicly stated lies has been like trying to catch confetti.

Same with the incidence of his slurred speech, garbled grammar, incoherent blather, invented words, etc.

I suppose it is always possible that when he lies about, say, having won Pennsylvania in the general elections, beaten Barack Obama, created "the best economy ever", "kept the country safe", "no wars on my watch" and so on that he is not lying so much as he really forgot what happened in just the past 4-5 years due to his severe cognitive impairment.

LOL. On a related note, it's hard to top Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy Pelosi demanding cognitive tests for presidential candidates and in the very next breath misstating the date of The 9/11 Attack! Lolol.

[B]Haley Misstates 9/11 Attack Date After Calling For Cognitive Tests.[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/haley-misstates-911-attack-date-after[/URL]

[QUOTE]"The last thing we ever want to do is side with Russia," she said during a defense of NATO. "What we always need to remember is America needs to have friends."

"[B]After September 10th[/b], we needed a lot of friends," Haley added. "We can never get to the point where we don't need friends."[/QUOTE]First question on the test for Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy;.

Who is buried in Grant's Tomb?

Surely, Fux News and every Mainstream Media outlet will devote an hour of prime time to Nikki Nancy getting the date of The 9/11 Attack wrong. LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2892741] ... Then of course, there was the dollar, the basis for American power. Putin cannot believe that the dollar, the cornerstone of American power, is being tossed away. He said Russia has gone from doing 50% of its transactions in dollars to 13%. [b][i][u]For those of us who understand economics[/u][/i][/b], we want there always to be a high demand for the dollar. Putin is asking why are you messing with that demand. ...[/QUOTE]

(...kkkk!) Oh please, spare me your backwater economics!

Ahh, last I checked, ELVIS 2008, you still hadn't simply [i]"stuck your head out the window"[/i], and taken a good hard look, at how strong and resilient, President Joe Biden's economy has been, like I metaphorically (and somewhat perhaps literally in your case) said you should.

But instead it would seem, [b]you still have your head up your ass.[/b] No doubt still pining, hoping and praying for a RECESSION/DEPRESSION, just like your feckless "Loud and Save-ur-Dumbass".

So forgive me if I take issue with ANY Trumpian DUMBASS BULLSHIT economics, you maybe shoveling, today, or any other day!

[i]"For those of us who understand economics"[/i]...indeed! [b](...kkkk!)[/b]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2893285]So forgive me if I take issue with ANY Trumpian DUMBASS BULLSHIT economics, you maybe shoveling, today, or any other day!
[/QUOTE]What does Trump have to do with any of this? Oh right. You cannot post anything without blaming him for all the world's ills. Classic TDS.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2893285](...kkkk!) Oh please, spare me your backwater economics![/QUOTE]Spidy, do you live in the USA? Or are you like Tooms lecturing us about how things are in the USA from thousands of miles away?

Have you ever been to a country where there is zero demand for the currency? It is not pretty.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2893285]Ahh, last I checked, ELVIS 2008, you still hadn't simply [i]"stuck your head out the window"[/i], and taken a good hard look, at how strong and resilient, President Joe Biden's economy has been, like I metaphorically (and somewhat perhaps literally in your case) said you should.

But instead it would seem, [b]you still have your head up your ass.[/b] No doubt still pining, hoping and praying for a RECESSION/DEPRESSION, just like your feckless "Loud and Save-ur-Dumbass".[/QUOTE]John Oliver had a hilarious video on Chuck E Cheese here. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6y2pY1pZ0.[/URL] he was going to do it on home owners associations and then changed his mind saying, "If you are under 35, you will never, ever, ever be able to afford house. " which is totally true.

So yeah, if you are in the stock market or own a house, then fuck yeah, Biden has been great. The rich have gotten richer. If not, you are getting your ass kicked. Housing prices are up 45% since Biden took office.

The economy is okay. It is not great. If it were great, and I went to a popular strip club on a Saturday night, it would be loaded with men spending money versus being totally empty. Women are the ultimate luxury good.

For every GDP and unemployment number you pull out of your ass, I can show you consumer credit card debt, interest payments on federal debt, and the exploding amount of federal debt. You seem to be missing the part where having a great life while maxing out your credit cards is not going to end well.

In 1999/2000, the men were six deep in line trying to get dances from the hottest dancers in strip clubs and the talk was complete elimination of the debt. To compare those days to these is a fucking joke. If you are Tooms, it was all Clinton and the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with those boom times.

But as usual, I see both points of view while you are the one with your head firmly up your ass.

You seem to not know anyone under the age of 35 Spidy. I guess you like your MILFs. Well, here is another video where there is discussion of the benefits of young people continue to live with their parents: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B6wzlzcOc[/URL].

Ah yes, that is such a sign of a strong economy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2893106]Other part that was crazy with Putin interview is Putin confirmed something everyone who follows the Ukraine War knew: Ukraine and Russia had a peace deal and Boris Johnson destroyed it. My guess is he did so after being told to by Biden, but that is not fact.

So Putin does the interview, confirms this already known fact, but now that this fact is much more widely known, and Bojo fucking loses it. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/boris-johnson-has-meltdown-after-being-exposed-sabotaging-ukraine-peace-deal[/URL].

In his video, this asshole Bojo does not even deny it.

Xpartan, you try to make this a red-blue conservative-liberal issue but it is not. It is neocon, pro military industrial complex people versus everyone else. Nikki Haley would be the same type of war monger Biden is.[/QUOTE]No I don't. I'm seeing a lot of Republicans backing Ukraine's heroic war effort against the Russian aggression. Probably not as much because of heroism, but because they rightly see that this is a fight the whole civilized world against modern-day barbarians.

No Elvis. The problem is you. You, trumpers, right-wingers, unscrupulous demagogues who're willing to embrace war criminals and mass murderers in a fight against your own democracy.

As for that Boris Johnson hot bullshit, I've already answered in the Ukraine thread.

I thought by now at least one of the supposedly "pro democracy, pro America" posters here like Elvis, MDS1 and such would have expressed their outrage that one of the frontrunner candidates for POTUS from the two major political parties just recently proudly announced that, should he win the election, he fully intends to violate the USA Constitution, violate his Oath of Office, break the law and encourage his Puppet Master Putin to invade any NATO member country and "do whatever the hell" he wants.

Which, of course, is not only a violation of the USA Constitution, a violation of the Oath of Office and a crime, but it would also be one of the most disastrous economic and national security moves ever made by any leader of any country in history.

Leading to WWIII (uh, not WWII)? Very, very likely.

Now, I know it is entirely possible that those Wingers have not even heard this bit of news. After all, it happened way last Saturday and it is entirely probable the "news" sources they pay any attention to have been too busy examining just why Joe Biden said "Mexico" in his comments about an international border issue when he meant to say "Egypt".

Still, I have managed to hear, see, read and know ALL about it even though I live far away from the USA, the place where Joe Biden lives and even the neighborhood where that particular America-hating candidate who made that campaign promise lives.

A miracle, you say? Not really. It turns out just about anyone in the world can know just about everything there is to know about issues that occur more than easy walking distance from where they reside. Really. I mean even from one USA city to another USA city. And within minutes too!

Well, actually, that has been possible pretty much ever since one dude spoke into a hand piece and said. "Mr. Watson, come here. I want to see you" and that Watson guy wasn't even in the same room!

Really. It was in all the papers.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2893575]I thought by now at least one of the supposedly "pro democracy, pro America" posters here like Elvis, MDS1 and such would have expressed their outrage that one of the frontrunner candidates for POTUS from the two major political parties just recently proudly announced that, should he win the election, he fully intends to violate the USA Constitution, violate his Oath of Office, break the law and encourage his Puppet Master Putin to invade any NATO member country and "do whatever the hell" he wants.

Which, of course, is not only a violation of the USA Constitution, a violation of the Oath of Office and a crime, but it would also be one of the most disastrous economic and national security moves ever made by any leader of any country in history.

Leading to WWIII (uh, not WWII)? Very, very likely.

Now, I know it is entirely possible that those Wingers have not even heard this bit of news. After all, it happened way last Saturday and it is entirely probable the "news" sources they pay any attention to have been too busy examining just why Joe Biden said "Mexico" in his comments about an international border issue when he meant to say "Egypt"..[/QUOTE]Here is your answer.

[B]Trumps threat to NATO allies draws little condemnation from GOP, reflecting his grip on the party[/B]

It's easy. He remarked once that his disciples wouldn't care if he shot someone on Times Square (and he was right). So why would they flinch now? Their lord and savior simply can't do wrong.

Politicians are another matter. To them it's about survival, nothing more.

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (AP) Donald Trumps claim that he once told a NATO ally that he would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want to delinquent members of the group sent shockwaves through Europe over the weekend. But in Washington, most Republicans downplayed or defended remarks that seemed to invite Russian aggression.[/QUOTE][URL]https://apnews.com/article/trump-nato-presidential-election-congress-republicans-20e902788e8701999ce0424f73d478cc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2893468]What does Trump have to do with any of this? Oh right. You cannot post anything without blaming him for all the world's ills. Classic TDS.[/QUOTE]
(...kkkk!) Yeah...Dude, me using, "Trumpian" as an adjective to describe your gulag economics, should have told you all you need to know. But since you're the one bringing up [b]Trump, for the world's ills,[/b] you maybe on to something? Stick with it, I'd love to hear more!

Truth be told, though, there are an awful lot right-wing Trump copycats, crawled out from under their rocks, as of late. Or is this just the latest crop of right-wing fascist dictators, in this era of history, to come out and inflict their brand of benevolence on the world?

Elvis 2008, when your "wanna be dictator", Trump, interjects himself, into the economic discussion, and tries to take credit for President Joe Biden's GREAT ECONOMY, perhaps you it's you suffering from TDS?

But not to worry, Elvis 2008, as President Joe Biden, has reduced the cost of SENIOR health care prescription drugs for YOU and millions of other senior Americans. In addition to a GREAT ECONOMY, Biden has improved access and reduced costs to ACA for millions of Americas, like yourself who maybe suffering from TDS? So fear not!

Biden's Affordable Care Act (ACA) Accomplishments:
• A record number 20 Million join ACA. 8 Million Americas have signed up for ACA during the Biden's term, the largest expansion of healthcare ever.
• Biden's Continued Investment in ACA, has made healthcare really affordable and lowered costs
• Under Biden, 80% (or 4/5) Americans can get healthcare insurance for as little as $10/month

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2893468]Have you ever been to a country where there is zero demand for the currency? [b][u]It is not pretty.[/u][/b][/QUOTE]
Even if I have, they still took US dollars. So what's your point? Are you suggesting that the USA, under "Trumpian" economics is going have zero demand for its currency? If so, you maybe right!

BTW, have you ever been to a country that had zero demand for it's currency, where the country has been bombed to bits, become a virtual war zone and has very little in the way of an actual economy? [i][b]It is not pretty![/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2893468]John Oliver had a hilarious video on Chuck E Cheese here. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6y2pY1pZ0.[/URL] he was going to do it on home owners associations and then changed his mind saying, "If you are under 35, you will never, ever, ever be able to afford house. " which is totally true.

So yeah, if you are in the stock market or own a house, then fuck yeah, Biden has been great. The rich have gotten richer. If not, you are getting your ass kicked. Housing prices are up 45% since Biden took office.

The economy is okay. It is not great. If it were great, and I went to a popular strip club on a Saturday night, it would be loaded with men spending money versus being totally empty. Women are the ultimate luxury good.

For every GDP and unemployment number you pull out of your ass, I can show you consumer credit card debt, interest payments on federal debt, and the exploding amount of federal debt. You seem to be missing the part where having a great life while maxing out your credit cards is not going to end well.

In 1999/2000, the men were six deep in line trying to get dances from the hottest dancers in strip clubs and the talk was complete elimination of the debt. To compare those days to these is a fucking joke. If you are Tooms, it was all Clinton and the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with those boom times.

But as usual, I see both points of view while you are the one with your head firmly up your ass.

You seem to not know anyone under the age of 35 Spidy. I guess you like your MILFs. Well, here is another video where there is discussion of the benefits of young people continue to live with their parents: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B6wzlzcOc[/URL].

Ah yes, that is such a sign of a strong economy.[/QUOTE]

Okay, Elvis 2008...those stories, I must say, were a lovely regalement of assortment of tales from your "Trumpian" economic crypt. Yes very entertaining, while yet, [b]not one thing[/b] mentioned w/r to anything Repubs have done to help, said Americans.

Careful now, in addition to [b]TDS,[/b] YOU may also suffer from [b]CRS![/b] (...kkkk! aka. "Chip Roy Syndrome")

Elvis 2008, just reminder, to tell those under 35 year of age that you frequently run into (as I often do), that as soon as, the Repubs get-out-the-way and stop impeding their economic success, with things like book-bans, abortion bans, student forgiveness loans and tax breaks for rich wealthy billionaires/corporate donors and bi-partisan bills that address and prevent corporate rental/housing greed from unfairly buying up huge chunks of family housing and then raising rent (and home ownership) to absurd levels of inequality for Americans seeking home ownership...the better off they'll be.

Yes, [b]despite[/b] the efforts of Repubs to derail, thwart and impede [i](and often [u]try to take credit[/u] for)[/i], the good and sometimes better than good fortunes of Americans, it is still yet a strong, vibrant and resilient Biden economy.

[b]But I shudder to imagine[/b], given those very same tales of supposed "Biden economic woes" you present, would have be like under a Repub "Trumpian" 2020 administration. Naturally Americas would be in:[LIST] [b][Quote courtesy of EihTooms][/b] [i]"One of those Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and Mysterious, Mystical Great Repub 'Once in a Hundred Years' Repeatedly Wild Coincidence Repub Disasters along with the inevitable and unavoidable Recovery Inflation."[/i][/LIST]So to use your own words, w/r to if we were currently in a Repub lead economy, [i][b]"It is not pretty!"[/b][/i] nor [i][b]"Would it be pretty!"[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2893468]Spidy, do you live in the USA? Or are you like Tooms lecturing us about how things are in the USA from thousands of miles away? [/QUOTE]
Elvis 2008,

In a Trumpian world, laced with right-wing toxicity, doxxing, threats of terror, harm and violence, forgive me if I answer with caution and tell you to...[b]assume and image whatever[/b] pleases that right-winger "Trumpian" heart of yours.

But [b]hey Elvis 2008[/b], what I can tell you and I'll let you in on a little secret (and impart a little Jedi wisdom, from what someone once told me) ...it is THIS:[LIST][i]"If you're [U]patient[/u] enough, [u]quiet[/u] enough, and really, really, really LISTEN carefully enough!...[b]people will often tell you who they are, [u]without you asking![/u]"[/b][/i][/LIST]
Wait...[b]just be patient[/b], my "Trumpian" conservative padawan! (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2893735]Here is your answer.

[B]Trumps threat to NATO allies draws little condemnation from GOP, reflecting his grip on the party[/B]

It's easy. He remarked once that his disciples wouldn't care if he shot someone on Times Square (and he was right). So why would they flinch now? Their lord and savior simply can't do wrong.

Politicians are another matter. To them it's about survival, nothing more.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/trump-nato-presidential-election-congress-republicans-20e902788e8701999ce0424f73d478cc[/URL][/QUOTE]Trump, ChristoFascist Mike and their fellow classic Repubs have not only finally proven to the people of America that they are 100% in favor of Open Borders for America as witnessed by their killing the strictest, most "conservative", bi-partisan Immigration Reform bill ever handed to them, but they are also proving to the world they are 100% in favor of ENCOURAGING lawless aggressors to cross borders everywhere on the planet to "do whatever the hell they want"!

And don't think for one minute Trump's public message to Vladimir Putin regarding invading any NATO member country he damn well pleases with his full and dutiful consent does not include the NATO country member known at least up to now as The United States of America.

Trump's hatred for America, democracy, national sovereignty and border security at home and abroad knows no bounds and has been revealed for all the world to see.

Dems continue to way over perform their poll numbers vs Repubs and win elections, now even when classic phony Repub outrage issues such as Immigration and Border Control are the top concerns of the electorate. And understandably so.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2893743](...kkkk!)

Biden's Affordable Care Act (ACA) Accomplishments:
A record number 20 Million join ACA. 8 Million Americas have signed up for ACA during the Biden's term, the largest expansion of healthcare ever.
Biden's Continued Investment in ACA, has made healthcare really affordable and lowered costs
Under Biden, 80% (or 4/5) Americans can get healthcare insurance for as little as $10/month [/QUOTE]While I agree with your praises of Biden's economic achievements, healthcare is not one of them.

Yes, I can see claims of $10 coverage for 80% Americans, but I'll believe it when I see it in practice. No one who makes any kind of money beyond mere peanuts would be eligible for this kind of premiums. The policy I pay for my family members costs $ hundreds a month and has a high deductible, copayments and co-insurance. In addition, the credits for buying a policy come out of your tax deductions anyway. I'm not saying ACA isn't helpful at all, but the system is still broken and will remain broken until we join the rest of the civilized world and provide public healthcare for everyone.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2893482]No I don't. I'm seeing a lot of Republicans backing Ukraine's heroic war effort against the Russian aggression. Probably not as much because of heroism, but because they rightly see that this is a fight the whole civilized world against modern-day barbarians.

No Elvis. The problem is you. You, trumpers, right-wingers, unscrupulous demagogues who're willing to embrace war criminals and mass murderers in a fight against your own democracy.

As for that Boris Johnson hot bullshit, I've already answered in the Ukraine thread.[/QUOTE]I just don't get why this is so hard for MAGA to understand and comprehend.

Russia, for whatever reasons it may have, attacked a sovereign country UNPROVOKED. And that is WRONG.

Why even spin the situation or give "reasonings" for Russia?

Today, I heard Tommy Tuberville on a radio show saying that Russia attacked Ukraine because US put weapons in countries near Russia.

1st. Last I check, US does not put weapons in any countries without their permission (more like invitations because they fear Russia would do the same to them as Ukraine). That's what sovereignty of a country is. They do whatever the hell they want within their borders without breaking any laws to protect their land. Example: North and South Korea have troops within shouting distance, and yet no body invaded the other guy for 50+ years.

2nd. Why is a US Senator blaming his country for Russia attacking Ukraine, UNPROVOKED? And since he part of the government, is he blaming himself?

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2893860]I just don't get why this is so hard for MAGA to understand and comprehend.[/QUOTE]Because they don't want to understand. That would hurt for they put all their eggs into Trump's basket. There're nothing left.

Now why Trump is so enthusiastic about sucking a third-rate dictator's cock, I might have an idea.

[B]https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business[/B]

[B]Putin is cashing in on his enormous investment in Trump[/B]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pbYSp0ROmo[/URL]

"Russiagate", my ass!

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2893860]I just don't get why this is so hard for MAGA to understand and comprehend.

Russia, for whatever reasons it may have, attacked a sovereign country UNPROVOKED. And that is WRONG.

Why even spin the situation or give "reasonings" for Russia?[/QUOTE]The sovereign nation of Ukraine was part of the old USSR and contingent on being a sovereign nation was an agreement between Russia and the West that Ukraine not possess nuclear weapons. Japan made provisions with the USA after surrendering in WW 2. If Japan violated those agreements, the USA would be justified in going to war with Japan.

[URL]https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/tucker-interview-with-putin/[/URL]

The day before Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, as the biased press loves to call it, Zelensky stood up and announced he would seek to rearm Ukraine with nuclear weapons pointed at Russia. Putin mentioned in a speech to the people on February 23rd that night that Ukraine announced it would rearm with nuclear weapons as one of the reasons to justify entering the Donbas.

Ukraine shut off water to Crimea, launched bombers into the Dombass, coddled neonazis, and none other than Kamala Harris spoke of Ukraine joining NATO. Then we hear of all these weird biolabs in Ukraine getting funded by the Pentagon and Victoria Nuland worrying they might fall into Russian hands, [URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological[/URL].

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2893860]That's what sovereignty of a country is. They do whatever the hell they want within their borders without breaking any laws to protect their land.[/QUOTE]So putting nuclear and potentially bioweapons on another nation's doorstep is not provocation unless it is the USA and Cuba. Then it is provocation, but when it is Ukraine and Russia, it is not. Got it. Yeah, I cannot believe why MAGA idiots could be so dumb as to be confused by that.

It appears the central witness in Trump Attorney General Sean Hannity and ChristoFascist Mike's Impeachment case against President Hunter Biden has been busted for lying mercilessly about all the bits that so endeared him to Winger Repubs.

What will replace Impeaching President Hunter Biden as the Repub Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle House as their top if not only priority?

Controlling the border? Nope. They are not interested.

Reducing crime? Nope. Biden has already done that.

Reducing Inflation? Nope. Biden has already done that.

Recover the economy from the most recent Great Repub Crash and Jobs Destruction? Nope. Biden has already done that.

Fund international resistance against terrorism and authoritarian dictatorship aggression for pennies on the dollar? Nope. Not interested.

Anything?

Guess they'll have to continue to live up to their well earned and well deserved Do Nothing Repub reputation.

[B]Special counsel charges FBI informant with lying to the bureau about Hunter and Joe Biden.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/15/special-counsel-charges-fbi-informant-with-lying-to-the-bureau-about-hunter-and-joe-biden.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Washington An FBI confidential human source has been indicted on two counts of allegedly feeding the bureau false information about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden during the 2020 presidential campaign.

Alexander Smirnov, 43, who disliked President Joe Biden, was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas, according to the Justice Department. The case grew out of the special counsel investigation being led by David Weiss, who is also leading the case against Hunter Biden. Weiss had been appointed by former President Donald Trump as the top federal prosecutor in Delaware.

The 37-page indictment alleges that Smirnov had been an informant for the FBI since 2010 and "provided false derogatory information to the FBI" about both Bidens after Joe Biden became a candidate for president in 2020.

Smirnov allegedly told the FBI falsely that officials with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden worked for, had told him they hired Hunter Biden because he would "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems. " Smirnov allegedly told the FBI again, falsely that Burisma officials had told him they paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden $5 million and that it would take investigators 10 years to find the illicit payments to Joe Biden.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2893853] While I agree with your praises of Biden's economic achievements, healthcare is not one of them. [/QUOTE]
Perhaps not an actual specific "economic" achievement per se, I don't need to tell you to imagine the horrendous "economic" costs of medical health care, when it's out of pocket for Americans, caught without coverage.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2893853] Yes, I can see claims of $10 coverage for 80% Americans, but I'll believe it when I see it in practice. No one who makes any kind of money beyond mere peanuts would be eligible for this kind of premiums. The policy I pay for my family members costs $ hundreds a month and has a high deductible, copayments and co-insurance. In addition, the credits for buying a policy come out of your tax deductions anyway. [b]I'm not saying ACA isn't helpful at all, but the system is still broken and will remain broken until we join the rest of the civilized world and provide public healthcare for everyone.[/b][/QUOTE]

Agreed! Yes, I too also think, more work needs to be done to make ACA more affordable for middle to high income families. But broadly speaking, ACA has made health care more available and more inclusive for more Americans than ever, in history.

Too steal and plagiarize an MLK/Obama quote:[LIST][i]"The arc of truly affordable heath care for ALL Americans maybe (Repub obstructed unnecessarily) long, but I'm hopeful it bends towards [b]"universal health care"[/b] or [b]"Medicare for all."[/b][/i][/LIST][LIST]Just like much of the rest of the civilized world, as you've nicely stated.[/LIST]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2893978]The day before Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, [b]as the biased press loves to call it[/b], Zelensky stood up and announced he would seek to rearm Ukraine with nuclear weapons pointed at Russia. Putin mentioned in a speech to the people on February 23rd that night that Ukraine announced it would rearm with nuclear weapons as one of the reasons to justify entering the Donbas.

[b]Lie #1: Russia attacked Ukraine because Ukraine threatened Russia with nuclear rearmament.[/b][/QUOTE]Here is the full Zelensky's speech on Feb 23, one day before the invasion. Where is the bit about "nuclear rearmament"?

[URL]https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/23/zelenskys-desperate-plea-for-peace[/URL]

Did you mean another speech? Or did you just pull this shit out of your ass? Link please.

Even if this speech had happened, whatever Zelensky might've said on Feb 23, couldn't have meant anything. The Russian troops had already been positioned for the invasion. The USA Intelligence knew that the invasion was imminent months before it happened. This claim of yours is insane.

[QUOTE][b]Lie #2: Ukraine's hostility against the Crimea and Donbass separatists provoked Putin. shut off water to Crimea, launched bombers into the Dombass, coddled neonazis, and none other than Kamala Harris spoke of Ukraine joining NATO. [/b][/QUOTE]Repeat after me: Crimea and Donbass belong to Ukraine. Do you understand this. Ukraine. Mexico is not allowed to be "provoked" into war if some shit happens in Texas. Germany is not allowed to be provoked into war if some shit happens in Czechia. What the hell is wrong with you?

[QUOTE][b]Lie 3: Then we hear of all these weird biolabs in Ukraine getting funded by the Pentagon and Victoria Nuland worrying they might fall into Russian hands, [URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological[/URL].[/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, then you hear, don't you?

How the false Russian biolab story came to circulate among the USA Far right.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1087910880/biological-weapons-far-right-russia-ukraine[/URL]

Theory About USA -Funded Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine Is Unfounded.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html[/URL]

Finally:

[QUOTE]Senator Rubio Questions Undersecretary Nuland Over Biolabs in Ukraine
During her testimony in front of the Senate Foreign Relations committee about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland answers a question from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) about whether or not Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons. She replies, "Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned...Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of." [b]She then refutes allegations from Russia that Ukrainians are plotting to use biological weapons, and says that if such an attack happens in Ukraine, "there is no doubt in my mind" it would be caused by Russian forces.[/b] [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/senator-rubio-questions-undersecretary-nuland-biolabs-ukraine[/URL]

[B][QUOTE]Lie #4 = Lies 1-3 combined: So putting nuclear and potentially bioweapons on another nation's doorstep is not provocation unless it is the USA and Cuba. Then it is provocation, but when it is Ukraine and Russia, it is not. Got it. [/B][ / QUOTE]Do you get it? You sure? Well, I'm glad.

[B][QUOTE]Truth #1: Yeah, I cannot believe why MAGA idiots could be so dumb as to be confused by that.[/B][/QUOTE]Me neither. Unfortunately, this is a reality we're all forced to live in.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2894208]Perhaps not an actual specific "economic" achievement per se, I don't need to tell you to imagine the horrendous "economic" costs of medical health care, when it's out of pocket for Americans, caught without coverage.

Agreed! Yes, I too also think, more work needs to be done to make ACA more affordable for middle to high income families. But broadly speaking, ACA has made health care more available and more inclusive for more Americans than ever, in history.

Too steal and plagiarize an MLK/Obama quote:[LIST][i]"The arc of truly affordable heath care for ALL Americans maybe (Repub obstructed unnecessarily) long, but I'm hopeful it bends towards [b]"universal health care"[/b] or [b]"Medicare for all."[/b][/i][/LIST][LIST]Just like much of the rest of the civilized world, as you've nicely stated.[/LIST][/QUOTE]Joe Lieberman, the same Independent / Third Party / No Labels screw-up who is working mightily to help Donald Trump retake the White House so he can produce another 4-year shitstorm of historic crap Repub Economic and National Security policies and stewardship results, along with virtually every admitted Repub in Congress was the reason the Affordable Care Act healthcare reform wasn't many, many times better and cheaper than it is.

[B]The New Republic: It Was Lieberman All Along.
Oct. 28, 2009[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114233563[/URL]

The eternal lesson being, if you want a better Economy, better National Security, better Border Control, Lower Inflation, more and better jobs created, higher wages, more affordable and better Healthcare, lower debt and deficits, greater Stock Market gains and any other significant improvements in the lives of Americans, you do not, repeat, do not vote for Repubs, Third Party candidates or refuse to vote at all. No, you vote Democrat all the way down the ballot every time, no exceptions. And do your best to convince everyone you know to do the same.

America must have a Dem in the White House, at least 235 Dems in the House and at least 5 more Dems than required to constitute a Super Majority in the Senate if the country is going to deliver great things for our taxpayer dollar. It is as simple as that. Even 1 decisive non Dem in the House or Senate and most definitely any Repub in the White House is enough to put the entire country and much of the rest of the world in serious danger.

I wish it weren't so. But the data and evidence supporting that conclusion is overwhelming and inarguable now.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]Here is the full Zelensky's speech on Feb 23, one day before the invasion. Where is the bit about "nuclear rearmament"?[/QUOTE]I posted the link.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]Even if this speech had happened, whatever Zelensky might've said on Feb 23, couldn't have meant anything. The Russian troops had already been positioned for the invasion. This claim of yours is insane.[/QUOTE]It is not MY claim, dummy. Russia could have pulled back if they had assurances from Biden there were going to be no nukes in Ukraine and no NATO expansion. Biden told Putin to kick rocks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]How the false Russian biolab story came to circulate among the USA Far right.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1087910880/biological-weapons-far-right-russia-ukraine[/URL]

Theory About USA -Funded Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine Is Unfounded.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey, where did the whole biolabs thing come up? It was from one of your neocon Jewish friends, Victoria Nuland. You know the lady who chose the leader of the "sovereign nation of Ukraine. Cough, cough. The one who said, "Fuck the EU. " Oh my bad, you are so dumb you thought I made that up.

[URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological[/URL]

The Russian Foreign Ministry asserted that "Russia obtained documents proving that Ukrainian biological laboratories located near Russian borders worked on development of components of biological weapons. ".

So that is easy to swat down. Just say it is not true. Well, it turns out that is not what happened: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: "Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof" that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior USA Foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth.

She acknowledged: "uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities."

So Russia makes a claim and Nuland admits it is true. No one knows exactly what those facilities were working on including you. But when NPR and the NYT pretend to know, and they spew out MAGA, QAnon, Russian conspiracy to confuse people like you, you lap it up like a puppy.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]Repeat after me: Crimea and Donbass belong to Ukraine. Do you understand this. Ukraine. Mexico is not allowed to be "provoked" into war if some shit happens in Texas. What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]LOL. Man, you really do not know your history. Cuba had nukes and the USA was going to go to war with Cuba and Russia to get them out, so this whole a country can do whatever it wants within its borders is sheer bullshit. Russia can look at the Cuban missile crisis to justify their invasion.

Then there is Mexico: The Mexican American War was an invasion of Mexico by the United States Army from 1846 to 1848. It followed the 1845 American annexation of Texas, which Mexico still considered its territory because Mexico refused to recognize the Treaties of Velasco its generals signed.

The USA Army, under Major General Winfield Scott, invaded the Mexican heartland and captured the capital, Mexico City, in September 1847. The war was successfully concluded with the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. It ended the war, and Mexico recognized the cession of present-day Texas, California, Nevada, and Utah as well as parts of present-day Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Wyoming. Mexico relinquished its claims on Texas and accepted the Rio Grande as its northern border with the United States, a loss of 55% of its territory.

Hey, Xpartan, maybe you just learned something.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]Unfortunately, this is a reality we're all forced to live in.[/QUOTE]You do not live in reality.

Think I am kidding? How many Covid boosters have you gotten lately? You have not gotten any. You are just too much of a coward to admit it.

And can you say this? Russiagate was a total fraud. The fact that you cannot say Russiagate was a fraud means you believe what you want and not the truth. You would not know the truth if it bit you in the ass.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894167]It appears the central witness in Trump Attorney General Sean Hannity and ChristoFascist Mike's Impeachment case against President Hunter Biden has been busted for lying mercilessly about all the bits that so endeared him to Winger Repubs.[/QUOTE]Some Dem is lapping up an FBI accusation as proof of guilt versus the FBI playing politics. What else is new? You mean the same FBI that sat on Hunter Biden's laptop during the 2020 election? That FBI?

David Weiss is charging Smirnov with lying to the FBI about the details he's presented in the Hunter Biden probe. Smirnov faces up to 25 years in prison.

Remember, this is the same David Weiss who said the IRS whistleblowers were lying, even though it was proven that they were telling the truth, and he offered Hunter that sweetheart plea deal before the Judge rejected it.

Did you guys know that Alexander Smirnov is only being charged with the DOJ catch all: "Making a false statement" 18 USC 1001, and "Creating a false and fictitious record" 18 USC 1519. The old "process crimes" attack. Classic Biden.

Ok. So where are all the indictments for everyone who gave the FBI false information about the Russian collusion charges against Trump?

Russiagate was the FBI telling countless lies about Trump being in bed with Putin. They lied to the FISA court. They lied in their documents, they changed testimony and now the FBI is outraged, outraged about someone lying? LOL.

Repeat after me, Tooms. Russiagate was the FBI lying to everyone in America about Trump. Can you say that? Sure you can.

So why the fuck should any of us care about the FBI and lying?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894233]No, you vote Democrat all the way down the ballot every time, no exceptions. And do your best to convince everyone you know to do the same.[/QUOTE]Isn't this what Republicans do?

Would you vote for Menendez?

One of my Rep friends who hates Trump's guts told me he'd vote for him anyway. I asked him why, and he said it's either him or Biden. I asked him half-jokingly how he'd be able to live with himself, and he said amazingly similar things to what you just did. That once you make a choice you have to stick with this choice even when it stinks and makes you cringe.

The danger of your approach is that when merit flies out of the window, it only encourages bad behavior. When politicians of any creed know they are politically invincible, there is nothing to prevent them from "menendezation".

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894216]Here is the full Zelensky's speech on Feb 23, one day before the invasion. [/QUOTE]Putin is on the same level as Thanos.

Feb 23, Zelensky made a speech.

Feb 24, Putin (Thanos) mobilized 100 K troops to the border using a new transporting power he got from riding a horse half naked somewhere in Russia. Easy peasy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894233]Joe Lieberman, the same Independent / Third Party / No Labels screw-up who is working mightily to help Donald Trump retake the White House so he can produce another 4-year shitstorm of historic crap Repub Economic and National Security policies and stewardship results, along with virtually every admitted Repub in Congress was the reason the Affordable Care Act healthcare reform wasn't many, many times better and cheaper than it is.

[B]The New Republic: It Was Lieberman All Along.
Oct. 28, 2009[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114233563[/URL]

The eternal lesson being, if you want a better Economy, better National Security, better Border Control, Lower Inflation, more and better jobs created, higher wages, more affordable and better Healthcare, lower debt and deficits, greater Stock Market gains and any other significant improvements in the lives of Americans, you do not, repeat, do not vote for Repubs, Third Party candidates or refuse to vote at all. No, you vote Democrat all the way down the ballot every time, no exceptions. And do your best to convince everyone you know to do the same.

America must have a Dem in the White House, at least 235 Dems in the House and at least 5 more Dems than required to constitute a Super Majority in the Senate if the country is going to deliver great things for our taxpayer dollar. It is as simple as that. Even 1 decisive non Dem in the House or Senate and most definitely any Repub in the White House is enough to put the entire country and much of the rest of the world in serious danger.

I wish it weren't so. But the data and evidence supporting that conclusion is overwhelming and inarguable now.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you're always going to get the odd one (or two) DINO types, saddle up along and side with the Repubs. Annoyingly unavoidable! Just looking to support their campaign contributions, big money and rich billionaires donors, by scuttling and watering down very good, meaningful and transformative bills/legislation, in the face and against the majority of Americans.

Just take the recent case of the DINOs, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, w/r to the initial, bigger $4.5 trillion IRA.

[QUOTE=NPR][B]The New Republic: It Was Lieberman All Along. Oct. 28, 2009[/B] ... I think Lieberman is the one to watch. My guess is that ultimately he'll vote for reform, but he'll do so because the Democrats will scale back their plan and win over Olympia Snowe, making Lieberman's opposition academic. Lieberman won't join a futile filibuster, [b]but if he has the chance to stick in the knife and kill health care reform, I think he'd probably jump at the chance.[/b]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114233563[/URL][/QUOTE]

Well from Lieberman's Wiki post, it looks like he got the chance to[b] "stick in the knife"[/b] and vote-down the [i]"public health insurance option",[/i] part of the ACA.

Thanks, it's always good to put a face/name to those "filibuster" impeding progress transgressors, even if it's a DINO.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2894418]Yeah, you're always going to get the odd one (or two) DINO types, saddle up along and side with the Repubs. Annoyingly unavoidable! Just looking to support their campaign contributions, big money and rich billionaires donors, by scuttling and watering down very good, meaningful and transformative bills/legislation, in the face and against the majority of Americans.

Just take the recent case of the DINOs, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, w/r to the initial, bigger $4.5 trillion IRA..[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, Lieberman had been booted from the Democratic Party by then. He was no longer a "Democrat" In Name Only or in any other way.

By then he was passing himself off as an Independent, the kind of pol meant to attract votes from pro Repub "Bothsiders" who can't admit openly or to themselves that they want Repubs to win elections so they can produce horrific results in office but that is typically the end result of their vote anyway.

The same thing he is doing with his No Labels movement.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2894326]Some Dem is lapping up an FBI accusation as proof of guilt versus the FBI playing politics. What else is new? You mean the same FBI that sat on Hunter Biden's laptop during the 2020 election? That FBI?

David Weiss is charging Smirnov with lying to the FBI about the details he's presented in the Hunter Biden probe. Smirnov faces up to 25 years in prison.

Remember, this is the same David Weiss who said the IRS whistleblowers were lying, even though it was proven that they were telling the truth, and he offered Hunter that sweetheart plea deal before the Judge rejected it.

Did you guys know that Alexander Smirnov is only being charged with the DOJ catch all: "Making a false statement" 18 USC 1001, and "Creating a false and fictitious record" 18 USC 1519. The old "process crimes" attack. Classic Biden.[/QUOTE]What lies and which witnesses were those?

This is what Trump's own Department of Justice found regarding the FBI's necessary and totally justifiable investigation of Trump, Camp Trump and their extraordinarily deep and intense collusion with Russia all through the election:

[B]FBI was justified in probing Trump-Russia, fed watchdog says.
Dec. 9, 2019[/B]

[URL]https://apnews.com/fbi-was-justified-in-probing-trump-russia-fed-watchdog-says-a734c40d142c8950f57ad4c8f8af565c[/URL]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (AP) The FBI was justified in opening its investigation into ties between the Trump presidential campaign and Russia and did not act with political bias, the Justice Departments internal watchdog declared Monday, undercutting President Donald Trumps repeated claims that he has been the target of a witch hunt.

The long-awaited report rejected theories and criticism spread by Trump and his supporters, though it also found serious performance failures up the bureaus chain of command that Republicans are citing as evidence that Trump was targeted by an unfair investigation.

The affirmation of the investigations legitimacy, balanced by criticism of the way it was conducted ensured that partisan battles would persist over one of the most politically sensitive investigations in FBI history. Another review of the origins of the probe continues, and the prosecutor picked by Attorney General William Barr to lead that effort hinted Monday hell take a harder view of the FBIs actions.[/QUOTE]There was only evidence against the FBI of making mistakes on the forms required to initiate their necessary and justifiable investigation and too little evidence of wrongdoing to charge whatever "lying" witnesses you are referring to.

"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies. Actually, your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media has lovingly defended and supported it.

"Some Dem is lapping up an FBI accusation as proof of guilt versus the FBI playing politics. What else is new? You mean the same FBI that sat on Hunter Biden's laptop during the 2020 election? That FBI?

David Weiss is charging Smirnov with lying to the FBI about the details he's presented in the Hunter Biden probe. Smirnov faces up to 25 years in prison.

Remember, this is the same David Weiss who said the IRS whistleblowers were lying, even though it was proven that they were telling the truth, and he offered Hunter that sweetheart plea deal before the Judge rejected it.

Did you guys know that Alexander Smirnov is only being charged with the DOJ catch all: "Making a false statement" 18 USC 1001, and "Creating a false and fictitious record" 18 USC 1519. The old "process crimes" attack. Classic Biden.

Ok. So where are all the indictments for everyone who gave the FBI false information about the Russian collusion charges against Trump?

Russiagate was the FBI telling countless lies about Trump being in bed with Putin. They lied to the FISA court. They lied in their documents, they changed testimony and now the FBI is outraged, outraged about someone lying? LOL.

Repeat after me, Tooms. Russiagate was the FBI lying to everyone in America about Trump. Can you say that? Sure you can.

So why the fuck should any of us care about the FBI and lying?

I got busted by a reverse sting mongering in a Sheraton hotel next to Ohare airport several years ago (circa 2015), guess who was running it, the FBI.

They asked my name of course I gave a bullshit name I said I found an ad online for a massage.

He was pissed yelling in my face he was a latino about 4 maybe 5 feet tall LOL with his FBI jacket on, yelling at me in my face, don't lie to me I'm the FBI.

I told him to blow me I want to speak to an atty and I sat down.

An hour or so later I was home.

Pro tip, leave wallet in the car.

Leave ignition key inside the gas cap door space.

Always say you just came for a massage and leave your wallet and keys behind.

They were towing other mongers cars.

I said my office was down the road and I took a taxi.

They didn't find any car FOB on me, they looked for one.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Aww. Who told Repub Trump what had begun in 2014, expanded in 2022 and was already happening this year?

LOL. That is such a Classic Do Nothing Repub move for him to leave his booth at the KFC to run out in front of a passing parade that had already been marching down Broadway for years in hopes that at least a few ill-informed numbskulls might think he is the one who organized it.

[B]Germany's Scholz commits to spending 2% on defense 'in the 2020's, in the 2030's and beyond'.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/17/germanys-scholz-commits-to-spending-2percent-on-defense-over-next-10-years.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]MUNICH, Germany German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Saturday reaffirmed Berlins commitment to spend 2% of the national gross domestic product (GDP) on defense, this year and over the longer term.

Germany will invest 2% of its GDP on defense in the 2020s, in the 2030s and beyond, Scholz told the Munich Security Conference.

Germany has this commitment in 2024 through regular and special budget outlays for the first time since the early 1990s, a defense ministry spokesperson said on Wednesday, according to Reuters.
....
Germany announced a new 100 billion euro ($107 billion) debt-financed fund for the Bundeswehr the German armed forces to beef up its national security in 2022, days after Russias full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Scholz at the time dubbed the move a Zeitenwende or watershed moment in Germanys modern history, which would allow the country to meet its long-held 2% defense spending goals.[/QUOTE][B]Why Donald Trumps boast that he got delinquent NATO allies to pay up is misleading[/B]

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/feb/14/fact-check-trump-misleads-in-comments-that-he-got/[/URL]

[QUOTE]2014, following Russias illegal annexation of Crimea, North Atlantic Treaty Organization members agreed to spend 2% of their national gross domestic product on defense spending by 2024. Spending has increased since then. As of 2023, 11 countries met that goal.

Experts said Russia President Vladimir Putins actions in 2014 and 2022 in Ukraine spurred the defense spending increases.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. Cue the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's spin that Trump's unconstitutional and criminal encouragement for any dictatorship to invade any country and "do whatever the hell they want" is responsible for a commitment and process that has been ongoing in Germany and many other NATO member countries for years! LOL.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2894437]
I got busted by a reverse sting mongering in a Sheraton hotel next to Ohare airport several years ago (circa 2015), guess who was running it, the FBI.

They asked my name of course I gave a bullshit name I said I found an ad online for a massage.

He was pissed yelling in my face he was a latino about 4 maybe 5 feet tall LOL with his FBI jacket on, yelling at me in my face, don't lie to me I'm the FBI.

I told him to blow me I want to speak to an atty and I sat down.

An hour or so later I was home.

Pro tip, leave wallet in the car.

Leave ignition key inside the gas cap door space.

Always say you just came for a massage and leave your wallet and keys behind.

They were towing other mongers cars.

I said my office was down the road and I took a taxi.

They didn't find any car FOB on me, they looked for one.
[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fk-around-find-out-truckers-warn-loads-nyc-will-be-rejected-starting-monday[/URL]

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good.

Jennifer and James Crumbley were the [B]first parents[/B] in the US to be charged in a mass school shooting committed by their child, Ethan Crumbley who is serving a life sentence in prison.

[QUOTE=ABCNews][b]The Michigan school shooter's mother Jennifer Crumbley was convicted of manslaughter. Could the landmark ruling set a legal precedent?[/b]
[LIST] Why was the mother found responsible? Even though Jennifer Crumbley did not pull the trigger, she was held responsible for not safely securing the gun and ammunition at home, as well as failing to seek support for her son's mental health" ...[/LIST]
[URL]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-07/legal-precedent-michigan-school-shooter-mother-jennifer-crumbley/103435710[/URL][/QUOTE]While I applaud the ruling, congress and the courts should go one better and repeal PLCAA, one of the dumbest / numbskull laws ever. PLCAA, was a Repub backed bill, pass by George "Dubya" Bush administration, back in 2005, to protect gun manufacturers from being sued, from those harmed by their products, can't sue the pants of them. No other manufacturers in industry has this kind of immunity.

Maybe if they didn't have such immunity, perhaps they'd put safer gun measures into their products, for fear of being sued, like everyone else?

Of course, Bank Fraud is not a victimless crime.

Aside from the obvious theft of money and available resources from everyone who didn't commit Bank Fraud, unless bank fraudsters like Trump are fined huge monetary penalties far beyond whatever they might have gained from their bank fraud, there will be zero deterrence for him or anyone else from doing it again and again and again.

[B] Everything Trump said outside the doors of his NY fraud trial is wrong. Here's why, point-by-point.
Dec. 8, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rages-outside-fraud-trial-factcheck-2023-12[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]The banks "love us" and there are "no victims"[/b]

In relying on Trump's exaggerations, Deutsche Bank lost out on $168 million in interest payments they would have otherwise charged him between 2014 and 2023, they allege.

"Trump's crimes are not victimless," James told reporters a year ago. "When the well-connected and powerful break the law to get more money than they are entitled to, it reduces resources available to working people, small businesses, and taxpayers."[/QUOTE]The Trump Crime Family got off easy. They all should have been banned FOR LIFE from doing business with banks that do business in New York.

Uh. If you steal a car, you still committed the crime of car theft and denied the owner and everyone else relying on that car access to it even if you return it 9 years later with a full tank of gas and a new coat of wax.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894435]"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies.[/QUOTE]This is the elephant in the room.

"Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fk-around-find-out-truckers-warn-loads-nyc-will-be-rejected-starting-monday[/URL]

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good. ".

They just cheated in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Washington Dc in 2020.

If they try this shit again in Nov, look out.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/asia/pakistan-election.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2894768]Jennifer and James Crumbley were the [B]first parents[/B] in the US to be charged in a mass school shooting committed by their child, Ethan Crumbley who is serving a life sentence in prison.

While I applaud the ruling, congress and the courts should go one better and repeal PLCAA, one of the dumbest / numbskull laws ever. PLCAA, was a Repub backed bill, pass by George "Dubya" Bush administration, back in 2005, to protect gun manufacturers from being sued, from those harmed by their products, can't sue the pants of them. No other manufacturers in industry has this kind of immunity.

Maybe if they didn't have such immunity, perhaps they'd put safer gun measures into their products, for fear of being sued, like everyone else?[/QUOTE]Look at the SCOTUS composition where this repeal would inevitably end up even if victorious.

Have Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham picked up a pair?

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/politics/trump-sneakers-pay-millions-new-york-trial/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2894942]Have Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham picked up a pair?

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/politics/trump-sneakers-pay-millions-new-york-trial/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]If he sells one pair to Elvis for $399,000,000, that ought to do it for at least one of his several Fraud liabilities.

LOL. He got booed at his grand sneakers launch:

[B]Donald Trump Booed Onstage While Promoting New $399 Sneakers.
Feb. 18, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-booed-onstage-399-sneakers-philadelphia-1870965[/URL]

Launching this new potential Trump Fraud just months before he and his cult followers are drooling over the idea that he will take Office in the White House again, can it be assumed he has no intention of divesting himself of the control or benefits of this new business venture and will instead use the sale of those ugly shoes as a Money Laundering mechanism for political bribes in exchange for him "serving" China, Saudi Arabia and other USA adversaries?

Like he did with his failed golf resorts and condos last time.

Didn't he prepare and rehearse his statement extensively on this one topic for that brief and long term planned interview? He is a Repub Congressman. By definition that means he is not busy doing anything else for his paycheck.

Also, the 47 year old interviewer didn't correct him. Maybe she didn't notice it because she is too old for her job, too.

[B]GOP Rep. Promises 'President Johnson' Will Save Ukraine.
Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) mistakenly called House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) "president" during an interview about the importance of defending Ukraine.[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/gop-rep-promises-president-johnson-will[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Well, President Johnson has made a number of public statements committing to finding a pathway for the aid for Ukraine," Turner proclaimed. "I believe him. I think that we will."

Welker did not correct the congressman.[/QUOTE]That would have been worth at least 2 prime time hours of attention on Fux News every night for a week and on Mainstream Media for at least 3 nights if Joe Biden had uttered that misstatement. LOL.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2894942]Have Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham picked up a pair?

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/politics/trump-sneakers-pay-millions-new-york-trial/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

You know what?...I think this may yet be the best single idea, Trump, has pushed on his cult followers. Yes, way better than an NFT.

The good thing is, at the very east it'll be easy enough, for the rest of us to spot, the gullible MAGA cult, in public. (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894936][b]Perhaps in 20-30 years. [/b]Look at the SCOTUS composition where this repeal would inevitably end up even if victorious. [/QUOTE] Unfortunately, true! But a lot can happen in 20-30 years.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2895072]You know what?...I think this may yet be the best single idea, Trump, has pushed on his cult followers. Yes, way better than an NFT.

The good thing is, at the very east it'll be easy enough, for the rest of us to spot, the gullible MAGA cult, in public. (...kkkk!) [/QUOTE]I'm just wondering how long that gold coating is going to last as it looks like spray paint. But it doesn't matter for now as that model is already sold out. There's other shoe choices though. Be advised there's a three per order limit. Wink.

[URL]https://gettrumpsneakers.com/[/URL]

This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

[B]Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb
18, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/feb/18/poll-of-historians-ranks-biden-14th-best-president/[/URL]

[QUOTE]A new poll of historians coming out on Presidents Day weekend ranks [b]Biden as the 14th-best president in American history,
just ahead of Woodrow Wilson, Ronald Reagan and Ulysses S. Grant.[/b] While that may not get Biden a spot on Mount Rushmore, it certainly puts him well ahead of Trump, who places dead last as the worst president in the nations history. Indeed, Biden may owe his place in the top third in part to Trump. Although he has claims to a historical legacy by managing the end of the COVID pandemic; rebuilding the nations roads, bridges and other infrastructure; and leading an international coalition against Russian aggression, Bidens signature accomplishment, according to the historians, was evicting Trump from the Oval Office.

[B]"Bidens most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from
Trump[/b], resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessors hands this fall, wrote Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the college professors who conducted the survey and announced the results in The Los Angeles Times.

[B]Trump[/b] might not care much what a bunch of academics think, but for what its worth he [b]fares badly even among the self-identified
Republican historians.[/b] Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.
[/QUOTE]

"What lies and which witnesses were those?

This is what Trump's own Department of Justice found regarding the FBI's necessary and totally justifiable investigation of Trump, Camp Trump and their extraordinarily deep and intense collusion with Russia all through the election:

There was only evidence against the FBI of making mistakes on the forms required to initiate their necessary and justifiable investigation and too little evidence of wrongdoing to charge whatever "lying" witnesses you are referring to.

"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies. Actually, your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media has lovingly defended and supported it. ".

"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies. ".

Who wouldn't love to see Adam Schiff Bubba and Mitt Romney in here.

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/inside-putin-gulag-archipelago-beatings-173146716.html[/URL]

I say clear out Guantanamo today and get it ready for Jan 20.

"Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good. ".

They just cheated in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Washington Dc in 2020.

If they try this shit again in Nov, look out.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alexander-fan-sentenced-fbi-agent-042605423.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAkLYBq1Rs-RWIs6BUYq51boRM2s-Oj4eE_zr6T7mmBcp0Q2Gpl6z6Z1G8VoUYEr9WwDEcR63aI15wrDsW7URuGgnDPbnwdzxqrl5bYNbxBCwrOxXvVrQeXrVZNeMLH--Nc2IH5R7nhnrJpj9arnJiixKE8NoW6xdVNdis6uwqfz[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2895248]
....
Who wouldn't love to see Adam Schiff Bubba and Mitt Romney in here.

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/inside-putin-gulag-archipelago-beatings-173146716.html[/URL]

I say clear out Guantanamo today and get it ready for Jan 20.[/QUOTE]I watched your and many other Winger's favorite pro Repub "Bothsider" Presidential Election Closer pundit, Bill Maher, last Friday night.

He showed the campaign ad for RFK, Jr. For President! That ran during the Super Bowl, just in case anyone in his viewing audience missed it and, as Bill surely hopes, might swing enough vote percentages to his beloved Trump to close the election for him as such a tiny "Bothsider" percentage did in 2016. And as it did for GW Bush in 2000 with Bill's incomparable assistance.

Bill introduced the ad as "the same one his (RFK, Jr's) [B]Dad[/B] ran in his 1960 campaign for president" except with the necessary name change.

That was a long prepared and planned for segment. 67 year old Bill Maher was even referring to his notes to introduce it. Apparently, nobody else on his discussion panel or later, all under the age of 70, noticed and pointed out that glaringly obvious and, frankly, weird misstatement of history and relationship.

Oh, and nobody on Fux News or any MSM outlet has yet devoted so much a 15 seconds mentioning that public misstatement by the now "Most Trusted" pro Repub "Bothsider" pundit in America way last Friday.

Lolol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895196]This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

[B]Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb
18, 2024[/B]
Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.[/QUOTE]How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.

There are at least 400,000 Ukrainians dead now and probably more Russians in a war that Biden could have stopped and did not, and these historians consider that a success? That is a failure of epic proportions IMO.

And we pay the taxes to fix roads and bridges. WTF does Biden have to do with that? Are we supposed to be grateful he just did not put that money in his pocket?

A far more interesting question was who was the WOAT pondered at Zero Hedge? The comments were priceless, educational, and unlike this moronic poll, a bit of a surprise. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-woat-president[/URL].

Thing is anyone who puts Obama, Trump, or even Biden on the WOAT list bores the piss out of me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2895315]How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.[/QUOTE]None? You must have gotten that grossly mistaken impression from the Worst President in History.

Naturally, the facts are wildly different.

[B]Trump misleads on Afghanistan[/B]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-afghanistan-troops-killed-659053265479[/URL]

[QUOTE]During Trumps presidency, which ran from January 20, 2017, to January 20, 2021, [b]there were 45 combat deaths among U.S. service members reported in Afghanistan, as
well as 18 non-hostile deaths[/b], according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System.[/QUOTE]According to my math, 45+18=58. Far from none.

[URL]https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/conflictCasualties/ofs/byMonth[/URL]

[B]Under Biden? 26 deaths. Total deaths.[/B] See link above.

That includes the 13 that were killed by a single loony suicide bomb that got past Trump's Victors, the Taliban, who were in total control of security during the withdrawal in accordance with Trump's total and complete surrender agreement to them.

Remember, Trump kept the United States of America directly involved in a combat war for every minute of every hour of every day of his miserable, Worst In History so-called presidency.

Since Biden's Least Deadly Withdrawal From an Occupied Country by the Loser in a War re the War in Afghanistan back in 2021, The United States of America has not been directly engaged in any combat war anywhere on the planet.

Oh, look, here is a bit more on those Bi-Partisan Historians' ranking of USA Presidents:

[B]Biden 14th in scholars' presidential rankings, Trump last.[/B]

[URL]https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2024/02/19/biden-14th-in-scholars--presidential-rankings--trump-last[/URL]

[QUOTE]other questions asked, respondents voted Trump as the most polarizing president ever. [B]Carter was considered the most underrated commander-in-chief[/b], while John F. Kennedy was voted the most
overrated.[/QUOTE]Interesting. As overrated as they considered JFK to be, he still wound up in the Top 10.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2895144]I'm just wondering how long that gold coating is going to last as it looks like spray paint. But it doesn't matter for now as that model is already sold out. There's other shoe choices though. Be advised there's a three per order limit. Wink.

[URL]https://gettrumpsneakers.com/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://gettrumpsneakers.com/pages/faq[/URL]

Like all things Trump, please read the fine prints or FAQs.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2895249]"Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good. ".

They just cheated in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Washington Dc in 2020.

If they try this shit again in Nov, look out.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alexander-fan-sentenced-fbi-agent-042605423.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAkLYBq1Rs-RWIs6BUYq51boRM2s-Oj4eE_zr6T7mmBcp0Q2Gpl6z6Z1G8VoUYEr9WwDEcR63aI15wrDsW7URuGgnDPbnwdzxqrl5bYNbxBCwrOxXvVrQeXrVZNeMLH--Nc2IH5R7nhnrJpj9arnJiixKE8NoW6xdVNdis6uwqfz[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-ray-walks-back-trucker-nyc-boycott-says-leave-trump-alone[/URL]

Capitalism: One man refusal to truck products is another man's payday.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895196]This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

[B]Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb 18, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/feb/18/poll-of-historians-ranks-biden-14th-best-president/[/URL]

Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.[/QUOTE]

Just love this post, as yet another prime example of how, [b]everything Trump touches, literally turns to "shit",[/b] in one form or another.

Of course Dems and most Independents, already and without question, know "Trump is the WORST PRESIDENT in US history".

But having it published once again (especially since it's written by NYT), it serves as a reminder for Repubs, and should put this debate to bed once and for all.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894972]If he sells one pair to Elvis for $399,000,000, that ought to do it for at least one of his several Fraud liabilities. [/QUOTE]
Really EihTooms? Come now! Even I know Elvis 2008, [b]isn't that gullible!!![/b]

Elvis 2008, would never pay MORE THAN $4 billion! (...kkkk!). Naturally, they'd have to be a personally autographed pair by Trump (and Melania?)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2894972] LOL. He got booed at his grand sneakers launch:

[B]Donald Trump Booed Onstage While Promoting New $399 Sneakers.
Feb. 18, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-booed-onstage-399-sneakers-philadelphia-1870965[/URL]

Launching this new potential Trump Fraud just months before he and his cult followers are drooling over the idea that he will take Office in the White House again, can it be assumed he has no intention of divesting himself of the control or benefits of this new business venture and will instead use the sale of those ugly shoes as a Money Laundering mechanism for political bribes in exchange for him "serving" China, Saudi Arabia and other USA adversaries?

Like he did with his failed golf resorts and condos last time.[/QUOTE] With all that booing...[b]you think[/b] the MAGA cult is finally catching on to his grifts? Or was it that they didn't perhaps like the color of the sneakers....kkkk!

What is dangerous about the hatred toward the court system is that if we do not have this system, what do we replace it with? Violence, survival of the fittest, who has more money wins, those with powers win?

Here's a simple idea:

When people (individuals / organizations / states) have disagreements they take their greivences to court. In court, a randomly selected Judge is the arbiter of facts, Jurors will determine which party wins based on which presentations is more convincing. Loser can appeal the decision to a higher court until it reaches its final destination, the Supreme Court. Everyone abides by the final decision.

Amazingly, we wrote this into our constitution because the system in England favored the rich, powerful, and connected.

Timeline: State of New York V Trump.

1. Trump was accused of Fraud and the plantiff is the citizen of New York (state). Prior to court trial, he made series of motions to dismiss, it was denied. He appealled and was denied.

2. Evidence Submission Process. NY supplied Trump with evidence to be presented at trial for Trump's defense.

3. Trump submitted motion for summary judgement. New York (Attorney General) submitted motion for summary judgement. NY wins all but 7 issues which go to trial for final determination.

4. Bench Trial (no Jurors); Trump team forgot to check the box for Jury Trial.

5. Both sides presented their evidence and witnesses with the burden of proof lies with the State of New York.

6. Judge determined that the state has satisfied the burden of proof and the State with wins the trial. Judgement of $350 million plus interest of $100 million (3 years at 9% Not operating a business in New York for 3 years; plus co-defendants also pay and have other stipulations on conducting business in NY.

Now Trump has 30 days to file an appeal, provided that he can find a bond agency to put up the cash in escrow, or Trump can put up the cash himself. If he wins appeal, he gets his money back.

[URL]https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/decisions/trump-decision.pdf[/URL]

I don't see the controversy. If you were a NY AG, wouldn't you want to prosecute a business and get the money back to your citizen, if you believe you can prove it in court?

"How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.

There are at least 400,000 Ukrainians dead now and probably more Russians in a war that Biden could have stopped and did not, and these historians consider that a success? That is a failure of epic proportions IMO.

And we pay the taxes to fix roads and bridges. WTF does Biden have to do with that? Are we supposed to be grateful he just did not put that money in his pocket?

A far more interesting question was who was the WOAT pondered at Zero Hedge? The comments were priceless, educational, and unlike this moronic poll, a bit of a surprise. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-woat-president[/URL].

Thing is anyone who puts Obama, Trump, or even Biden on the WOAT list bores the piss out of me. ".

[URL]https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758529993280205039[/URL] must see TV!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html[/URL]

GIVE THE TIMES.

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Former President Donald J. Trump is planning an extreme expansion of his first-term crackdown on immigration if he returns to power in 2025 — including preparing to round up undocumented people already in the United States on a vast scale and detain them in sprawling camps while they wait to be expelled.

The plans would sharply restrict both legal and illegal immigration in a multitude of ways.

Mr. Trump wants to revive his first-term border policies, including banning entry by people from certain Muslim-majority nations and reimposing a Covid 19-era policy of refusing asylum claims — though this time he would base that refusal on assertions that migrants carry other infectious diseases like tuberculosis.

He plans to scour the country for unauthorized immigrants and deport people by the millions per year.

To help speed mass deportations, Mr. Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. To help Immigration and Customs Enforcement carry out sweeping raids, he plans to reassign other federal agents and deputize local police officers and National Guard soldiers voluntarily contributed by Republican-run states.

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To ease the strain on ICE detention facilities, Mr. Trump wants to build huge camps to detain people while their cases are processed and they await deportation flights. And to get around any refusal by Congress to appropriate the necessary funds, Mr. Trump would redirect money in the military budget, as he did in his first term to spend more on a border wall than Congress had authorized.

ImageA side view of Stephen Miller as he stands and gives a speech.

"Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown," said Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump's former White House aide who was the chief architect of his border control efforts. Credit. Cooper Neill for The New York Times.

In a public reference to his plans, Mr. Trump told a crowd in Iowa in September: "Following the Eisenhower model, we will carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. " The reference was to a 1954 campaign to round up and expel Mexican immigrants that was named for an ethnic slur — "Operation Wetback. ".

The constellation of Mr. Trump's 2025 plans amounts to an assault on immigration on a scale unseen in modern American history. Millions of undocumented immigrants would be barred from the country or uprooted from it years or even decades after settling here.

Such a scale of planned removals would raise logistical, financial and diplomatic challenges and would be vigorously challenged in court. But there is no mistaking the breadth and ambition of the shift Mr. Trump is eyeing.

In a second Trump presidency, the visas of foreign students who participated in anti-Israel or pro-Palestinian protests would be canceled. USA Consular officials abroad will be directed to expand ideological screening of visa applicants to block people the Trump administration considers to have undesirable attitudes. People who were granted temporary protected status because they are from certain countries deemed unsafe, allowing them to lawfully live and work in the United States, would have that status revoked.

Similarly, numerous people who have been allowed to live in the country temporarily for humanitarian reasons would also lose that status and be kicked out, including tens of thousands of the Afghans who were evacuated amid the 2021 Taliban takeover and allowed to enter the United States. Afghans holding special visas granted to people who helped USA Forces would be revetted to see if they really did.

And Mr. Trump would try to end birthright citizenship for babies born in the United States to undocumented parents — by proclaiming that policy to be the new position of the government and by ordering agencies to cease issuing citizenship-affirming documents like Social Security cards and passports to them. That policy's legal legitimacy, like nearly all of Mr. Trump's plans, would be virtually certain to end up before the Supreme Court.

In interviews with The New York Times, several Trump advisers gave the most expansive and detailed description yet of Mr. Trump's immigration agenda in a potential second term. In particular, Mr. Trump's campaign referred questions for this article to Stephen Miller, an architect of Mr. Trump's first-term immigration policies who remains close to him and is expected to serve in a senior role in a second administration.

All of the steps Trump advisers are preparing, Mr. Miller contended in a wide-ranging interview, rely on existing statutes; while the Trump team would likely seek a revamp of immigration laws, the plan was crafted to need no new substantive legislation. And while acknowledging that lawsuits would arise to challenge nearly every one of them, he portrayed the Trump team's daunting array of tactics as a "blitz" designed to overwhelm immigrant-rights lawyers.

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"Any activists who doubt President Trump's resolve in the slightest are making a drastic error: Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown," Mr. Miller said, adding, "The immigration legal activists won't know what's happening. ".

Todd Schulte, the president of FWD. Us, an immigration and criminal justice advocacy group that repeatedly fought the Trump administration, said the Trump team's plans relied on "xenophobic demagoguery" that appeals to his hardest-core political base.

"Americans should understand these policy proposals are an authoritarian, often illegal, agenda that would rip apart nearly every aspect of American life — tanking the economy, violating the basic civil rights of millions of immigrants and native-born Americans alike," Mr. Schulte said.

'Poisoning the Blood'.

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Migrants gather outside the Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan in August, waiting to be processed. Credit. Jeenah Moon for The New York Times.

Since Mr. Trump left office, the political environment on immigration has moved in his direction. He is also more capable now of exploiting that environment if he is re-elected than he was when he first won election as an outsider.

The ebbing of the Covid-19 pandemic and resumption of travel flows have helped stir a global migrant crisis, with millions of Venezuelans and Central Americans fleeing turmoil and Africans arriving in Latin American countries before continuing their journey north. Amid the record numbers of migrants at the southern border and beyond it in cities like New York and Chicago, voters are frustrated and even some Democrats are calling for tougher action against immigrants and pressuring the White House to better manage the crisis.

Mr. Trump and his advisers see the opening, and now know better how to seize it. The aides Mr. Trump relied upon in the chaotic early days of his first term were sometimes at odds and lacked experience in how to manipulate the levers of federal power. By the end of his first term, cabinet officials and lawyers who sought to restrain some of his actions — like his Homeland Security secretary and chief of staff, John F. Kelly — had been fired, and those who stuck with him had learned much.

In a second term, Mr. Trump plans to install a team that will not restrain him.

Since much of Mr. Trump's first-term immigration crackdown was tied up in the courts, the legal environment has tilted in his favor: His four years of judicial appointments left behind federal appellate courts and a Supreme Court that are far more conservative than the courts that heard challenges to his first-term policies.

The fight over Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals provides an illustration.

DACA is an Obama-era program that shields from deportation and grants work permits to people who were brought unlawfully to the United States as children. Mr. Trump tried to end it, but the Supreme Court blocked him on procedural grounds in June 2020.

Mr. Miller said Mr. Trump would try again to end DACA. And the 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court that blocked the last attempt no longer exists: A few months after the DACA ruling, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died and Mr. Trump replaced her with a sixth conservative, Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Mr. Trump's rhetoric has more than kept up with his increasingly extreme agenda on immigration.

His stoking of fear and anger toward immigrants — pushing for a border wall and calling Mexicans rapists — fueled his 2016 takeover of the Republican Party. As president, he privately mused about developing a militarized border like Israel's, asked whether migrants crossing the border could be shot in the legs and wanted a proposed border wall topped with flesh-piercing spikes and painted black to burn migrants' skin.

As he has campaigned for the party's third straight presidential nomination, his anti-immigrant tone has only grown harsher. In a recent interview with a right-wing website, Mr. Trump claimed without evidence that foreign leaders were deliberately emptying their "insane asylums" to send the patients across America's southern border as migrants. He said migrants were "poisoning the blood of our country. " And at a rally on Wednesday in Florida, he compared them to the fictional serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter, saying, "That's what's coming into our country right now. ".

Mr. Trump had similarly vowed to carry out mass deportations when running for office in 2016, but the government only managed several hundred thousand removals per year under his presidency, on par with other recent administrations. If they get another opportunity, Mr. Trump and his team are determined to achieve annual numbers in the millions.

Keeping People Out.

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Migrants wait to be escorted by Border Patrol agents to a processing area in September. Mr. Trump's stoking of fear and anger toward immigrants fueled his 2016 takeover of the Republican Party. Credit. Mark Abramson for The New York Times.

Mr. Trump's immigration plan is to pick up where he left off and then go much farther. He would not only revive some of the policies that were criticized as draconian during his presidency, many of which the Biden White House ended, but also expand and toughen them.

One example centers on expanding first-term policies aimed at keeping people out of the country. Mr. Trump plans to suspend the nation's refugee program and once again categorically bar visitors from troubled countries, reinstating a version of his ban on travel from several mostly Muslim-majority countries, which President Biden called discriminatory and ended on his first day in office.

Mr. Trump would also use coercive diplomacy to induce other nations to help, including by making cooperation a condition of any other bilateral engagement, Mr. Miller said. For example, a second Trump administration would seek to re-establish an agreement with Mexico that asylum seekers remain there while their claims are processed. (It is not clear that Mexico would agree; a Mexican court has said that deal violated human rights.).

Mr. Trump would also push to revive "safe third country" agreements with several nations in Central America, and try to expand them to Africa, Asia and South America. Under such deals, countries agree to take would-be asylum seekers from specific other nations and let them apply for asylum there instead.

While such arrangements have traditionally only covered migrants who had previously passed through a third country, federal law does not require that limit and a second Trump administration would seek to make those deals without it, in part as a deterrent to migrants making what the Trump team views as illegitimate asylum claims.

At the same time, Mr. Miller said, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would invoke the public health emergency powers law known as Title 42 to again refuse to hear any asylum claims by people arriving at the southern border. The Trump administration had internally discussed that idea early in Mr. Trump's term, but some cabinet secretaries pushed back, arguing that there was no public health emergency that would legally justify it. The administration ultimately implemented it during the coronavirus pandemic.

Saying the idea has since gained acceptance in practice — Mr. Biden initially kept the policy — Mr. Miller said Mr. Trump would invoke Title 42, citing "severe strains of the flu, tuberculosis, scabies, other respiratory illnesses like are. S. V. And so on, or just a general issue of mass migration being a public health threat and conveying a variety of communicable diseases. ".

Mr. Trump and his aides have not yet said whether they would re-enact one of the most contentious deterrents to unauthorized immigration that he pursued as president: separating children from their parents, which led to trauma among migrants and difficulties in reuniting families. When pressed, Mr. Trump has repeatedly declined to rule out reviving the policy. After an outcry over the practice, Mr. Trump ended it in 2018 and a judge later blocked the government from putting it back into effect.

Mass Deportations.

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A close-up, hip-level view of federal officers wearing their firearms in their holsters.

Federal immigration-enforcement officers gathered for an arrest operation in May in Pompano Beach, Fla. Credit. Saul Martinez for The New York Times.

Soon after Mr. Trump announced his 2024 campaign for president last November, he met with Tom Homan, who ran ICE for the first year and a half of the Trump administration and was an early proponent of separating families to deter migrants.

In an interview, Mr. Homan recalled that in that meeting, he "agreed to come back" in a second term and would "help to organize and run the largest deportation operation this country's ever seen. ".

Trump advisers' vision of abrupt mass deportations would be a recipe for social and economic turmoil, disrupting the housing market and major industries including agriculture and the service sector.

Mr. Miller cast such disruption in a favorable light.

"Mass deportation will be a labor-market disruption celebrated by American workers, who will now be offered higher wages with better benefits to fill these jobs," he said. "Americans will also celebrate the fact that our nation's laws are now being applied equally, and that one select group is no longer magically exempt. ".

One planned step to overcome the legal and logistical hurdles would be to significantly expand a form of fast-track deportations known as "expedited removal. " It denies undocumented immigrants the usual hearings and opportunity to file appeals, which can take months or years — especially when people are not in custody — and has led to a large backlog. A 1996 law says people can be subject to expedited removal for up to two years after arriving, but to date the executive branch has used it more cautiously, swiftly expelling people picked up near the border soon after crossing.

The Trump administration tried to expand the use of expedited removal, but a court blocked it and then the Biden team canceled the expansion. It remains unclear whether the Supreme Court will rule that it is constitutional to use the law against people who have been living for a significant period in the United States and express fear of persecution if sent home.

Mr. Trump has also said he would invoke an archaic law, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, to expel suspected members of drug cartels and criminal gangs without due process. That law allows for summary deportation of people from countries with which the United States is at war, that have invaded the United States or that have engaged in "predatory incursions. ".

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Tom Homan stands holding a microphone in his right hand, giving a speech.

Tom Homan, who ran ICE for the first year and a half of the Trump administration, said he told Mr. Trump he would "help to organize and run the largest deportation operation this country's ever seen. "Credit. Rebecca Noble for The New York Times.

The Supreme Court has upheld past uses of that law in wartime. But its text seems to require a link to the actions of a foreign government, so it is not clear whether the justices will allow a president to stretch it to encompass drug cartel activity.

More broadly, Mr. Miller said a new Trump administration would shift from the ICE practice of arresting specific people to carrying out workplace raids and other sweeps in public places aimed at arresting scores of unauthorized immigrants at once.

To make the process of finding and deporting undocumented immigrants already living inside the country "radically more quick and efficient," he said, the Trump team would bring in "the right kinds of attorneys and the right kinds of policy thinkers" willing to carry out such ideas.

And because of the magnitude of arrests and deportations being contemplated, they plan to build "vast holding facilities that would function as staging centers" for immigrants as their cases progress and they wait to be flown to other countries.

Mr. Miller said the new camps would likely be built "on open land in Texas near the border. ".

He said the military would construct them under the authority and control of the Department of Homeland Security. While he cautioned that there were no specific blueprints yet, he said the camps would look professional and similar to other facilities for migrants that have been built near the border.

Such camps could also enable the government to speed up the pace and volume of deportations of undocumented people who have lived in the United States for years and so are not subject to fast-track removal. If pursuing a long-shot effort to win permission to remain in the country would mean staying locked up in the interim, some may give up and voluntarily accept removal without going through the full process.

The use of these camps, Mr. Miller said, would likely be focused more on single adults because the government cannot indefinitely hold children under a longstanding court order known as the Flores settlement. So any families brought to the facilities would have to be moved in and out more quickly, he said.

The Trump administration tried to overturn the Flores settlement, but the Supreme Court did not resolve the matter before Mr. Trump's term ended. Mr. Miller said the Trump team would try again.

To increase the number of agents available for ICE sweeps, Mr. Miller said, officials from other federal law enforcement agencies would be temporarily reassigned, and state National Guard troops and local police officers, at least from willing Republican-led states, would be deputized for immigration control efforts.

While a law known as the Posse Comitatus Act generally forbids the use of the armed forces for law enforcement purposes, another law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. Mr. Trump would invoke the Insurrection Act at the border, enabling the use of federal troops to apprehend migrants, Mr. Miller said.

"Bottom line," he said, "President Trump will do whatever it takes. ".

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2895532]

I don't see the controversy. [/QUOTE]That is because you have your head up your ass.

In 2016, IMO Hiliary lost the election because the head of the FBI, James Comey, said she was under investigation right before the election. That was how much respect Americans had for the FBI and DOJ. Now the leading presidential candidate has nearly 100 indictments against him and close to a hundred million Americans are pretty much saying they do not give a shit. Why has there been such a drastic change in their point of view? And you cannot figure it out?

As long as your head is up your ass, no one would expect YOUR POV to change.

[B]Trumps G.O.P. Is a Confederacy of Fakers.[/B]

[URL]https://dnyuz.com/2024/02/21/trumps-g-o-p-is-a-confederacy-of-fakers/[/URL]

[QUOTE]We are watching two schools of U.S. foreign policy play out over Ukraine. One is the classic U.S. great-power approach, led by a president who grew up in the Cold War and built on a bedrock of American values and interests that have served us well since we entered World War II: We and our allies will negotiate with Putin, but only from a position of strength, not weakness. And our strength derives not just from our money and weapons but also from the fact that Biden has been able to assemble a Western coalition on Ukraine that that amplifies our and our allies strength tenfold.

Trump, by contrast, often behaves as if he learned his world affairs not at Wharton but by watching World Wrestling Entertainment. So much of what he does is purely performative; its about looking strong, about talking tough and about fake body slams, in which everyone is fooled except our rivals.

For example, Trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal in May 2018, claiming it was a giveaway by Barack Obama. But he did it with no diplomatic plan to secure a better deal and no strategic plan or allies to confront Iran if it exploited Trumps move by pushing ahead toward a nuclear bomb. So Iran, which, under Obama, was being kept about a year away from having enough fissile material to build a nuclear bomb, is now just a few weeks away. Thats what performative diplomacy gets you..[/QUOTE]And there is so much more worth reading in that NYT article you might have missed.

Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

[B]Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

[QUOTE]A number of Republican and MAGA figures have reacted angrily after The Houston Chronicle, one of the biggest newspapers in Texas, endorsed President Joe Biden.

The Houston Chronicle's editorial board said they would be backing Biden in the Democratic primary and for re-election so he can "make life better" for the American people as well as prevent the "chaos, corruption and danger to the nation" that would accompany his presumed 2024 Republican challenger Donald Trump returning to the White House.[/QUOTE]By all means, do read on. LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2895639]That is because you have your head up your ass.

In 2016, IMO Hiliary lost the election because the head of the FBI, James Comey, said she was under investigation right before the election. That was how much respect Americans had for the FBI and DOJ. Now the leading presidential candidate has nearly 100 indictments against him and close to a hundred million Americans are pretty much saying they do not give a shit. Why has there been such a drastic change in their point of view? And you cannot figure it out?[/QUOTE]I totally agree that Americans have become infinitely more cynical after 4 years of Trump. If it's OK to demand immunity for the President of the United States who committed multiple criminal offences, I'm not surprised at all that disciples of your Lord and Savior (hereinafter L&S) don't give a shit about him stealing classified documents. After all, that's just one crime of many he's been prosecuted for.

As for your 100 million Trumpists claim (out of the total number of 160 million voters), well, that's just old good Elvis, LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895718]Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

[B]Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

By all means, do read on. LOL.[/QUOTE]"However, the board suggested the president has 'forgotten more than his presumed Republican rival [B]will ever know[/B]. That's not saying much, and at the same time, it says it all. '.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895718]Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

[B]Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

By all means, do read on. LOL.[/QUOTE]

The are a multitude of [b]excellent acknowledgements[/b] to President Joe Biden's accomplishments, w/r to his fine stewardship of the US economy & country, that is worth re-printing.

[b]We endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States in the Democratic Primary (Opinion)[/b]
By The Editorial Board, Feb 19, 2024
[URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/joe-biden-2024-democratic-primary-president-18670527.php[/URL]

[QUOTE] [b]... Under the leadership of the oldest and arguably the most experienced president in American history, [/b]the team in the White House for the past three years has performed remarkably well, despite the rancor and divisiveness that have afflicted this nation for nearly a decade.

The accomplishments of an administration dedicated to governing, one that believes in the power of government to make life better for the American people, is a key reason we heartily endorse the reelection of President Joe Biden. The other reason, equally important, is to fend off the chaos, corruption and danger to the nation that would accompany the return of Donald Trump to the White House.
[/QUOTE]

The Houston Chronicles, then goes on to provide several examples of the President's accomplishments.

[QUOTE] ... One of the clear advantages of a president as experienced as Biden is wisdom: in this case, the wisdom to get the heck out of the Fed's way as it masterfully applied the brakes to what could have been runaway inflation.

The economy has recovered from the perils of the pandemic and is now healthier than that of any other advanced nation. With unemployment approaching a 50-year low,... Inflation is trending downward, somehow, despite all dire prophecies of economists, without the bitter medicine of a recession or a period of high unemployment. Food prices are still high, and hard-working Americans are still wincing at grocery store receipts, but gas prices have fallen, as the U.S. produces more oil than any country in history, including Saudi Arabia. ... the administration is investing $7 billion in an ambitious solar-power project and is promoting other alternative energy projects, as well.

Infrastructure week [u]became a punch line[/u] during [b]the inept Trump administration[/b], but the Biden administration in its first year managed to pass a bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act that's expected to add an estimated 1.5 million jobs per year for the next 10 years.
[/QUOTE]

Unlike Trump's unfulfilled promised to bring back "coal" to rural American workers??? Houston Chronicles, highlights the Biden Infrastructure Bill targets projects in employment distressed counties around the country.

[QUOTE]One of the distressed areas to benefit is Wilbarger County, Texas, along the Red River northwest of Wichita Falls. A $4 billion private-sector venture is constructing a mega-scale green hydrogen plant that's expected to create 115 permanent jobs and more than 1,300 construction jobs in a county where population has declined almost every decade since 1940. Its worth noting that Wilbarger County in 2020 cast 21 percent of its votes for Biden, nearly 78 percent for Trump.
[/QUOTE]

Anyone think Trump would have done the same for a "Dem distressed county", were Biden, won 78% of the vote?

Personally, I'm not yet sold on the "hydrogen solution", being more viable, than the ever growing battery technology space, in the long run...but I guess time will tell, for cleaner hydrogen and said applications, that will use hydrogen.

[QUOTE]...the Affordable Care Act during this administration has made coverage more affordable and more accessible for millions of Americans...

The Biden White House also has given Medicare the power to directly negotiate with Big Pharma, thereby lowering drug prices and placing a $35-per-month cap on the cost of insulin for Medicare beneficiaries...

After decades of thoughts and prayers and little else in response to mass killings, the Biden White House managed to shepherd a bipartisan Safer Communities Act through a balky Congress...
[/QUOTE]

Well written and gives a fair but glowing account of President Biden's stewardship, well worthy of being the [b]14th Best President in History![/b]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895718]Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

[B]Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

By all means, do read on. LOL.[/QUOTE]

This last quote from the Article, says it ALL, w/r to all you need to know about President Joe Biden vs. the other guy.

[QUOTE]We are well aware of Bidens age, 81, (and Trumps, 77), as well as memory lapses that have prompted near-panic among many of the presidents fellow Democrats. Those of us who remember the energetic, garrulous, occasionally even eloquent Joe Biden of years past can see the difference a few years have made, even if he was always prone to gaffes. Accounts other than the report of Special Counsel Robert Hur suggest, however, that Biden remains focused, engaged and in command on the vital issues that occupy a president. Experience counts.

...Like Ronald Reagan, Lyndon Johnson and Franklin Roosevelt, Bidens deft management of his team has made him, arguably, the most productive president since LBJ in the early months of his administration.

He has, as they say, [u]forgotten more than his presumed Republican rival will ever know.[/u] [b]That's not saying much, and at the same time, it says it all. [/b]
[/QUOTE]

President Joe Biden, is the [b]14th Best President in US History.[/b]

I could not read all of it from the full endorsement because the "subscription required" pop-up kept appearing.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2895818][b] Yes, Yes, Yes! A Great Endorsement, A Great Houston Article... [/b]The are a multitude of [b]excellent acknowledgements[/b] to President Joe Biden's accomplishments, w/r to his fine stewardship of the US economy & country, that is worth re-printing.

[b]We endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States in the Democratic Primary (Opinion)[/b]
By The Editorial Board, Feb 19, 2024
[URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/joe-biden-2024-democratic-primary-president-18670527.php[/URL]

The Houston Chronicles, then goes on to provide several examples of the President's accomplishments.

Unlike Trump's unfulfilled promised to bring back "coal" to rural American workers??? Houston Chronicles, highlights the Biden Infrastructure Bill targets projects in employment distressed counties around the country.

Anyone think Trump would have done the same for a "Dem distressed county", were Biden, won 78% of the vote?

Personally, I'm not yet sold on the "hydrogen solution", being more viable, than the ever growing battery technology space, in the long run...but I guess time will tell, for cleaner hydrogen and said applications, that will use hydrogen.

Well written and gives a fair but glowing account of President Biden's stewardship, well worthy of being the [b]14th Best President in History![/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, I can't imagine any reputable and credible Real News print, cable / network media or internet source endorsing Trump over Biden for President of the United States of America this time around.

Good lord, based on what numbers, easily observable reality, historical and current data and results, demeanor, behavior or any other important factor?

I mean, what could they possibly cite as a decisive "positive" on Trump's side considering that as a Real News source they would have tracked all those factors throughout Biden's and Trump's entire public lives and can't pretend they didn't know that, on balance, Trump's were godawful for America while Biden's were clear net positives for America.

"Trumps G. O. P. Is a Confederacy of Fakers.

[URL]https://dnyuz.com/2024/02/21/trumps-g-o-p-is-a-confederacy-of-fakers/[/URL]

And there is so much more worth reading in that NYT article you might have missed. ".

Ross on the other hand is easily the smartest man in the bldg.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/opinion/china-taiwan-ukraine-war.html[/URL]

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Over the weekend Senator J. The. Vance of Ohio went to the Munich Security Conference to play an unpopular part — a spokesman, at a gathering of the Western foreign policy establishment, for the populist critique of American support for Ukraine's war effort.

If you were to pluck a key phrase from his comments, it would be "world of scarcity," which Vance used five times to describe the American strategic situation: stretched by our global commitments, unable to support Ukraine while simultaneously maintaining our position in the Middle East and preparing for a war in East Asia and therefore forced to husband our resources and expect our allies in Europe to counter Russia's armaments and ambitions.

In my Saturday column I wrote about the tensions in the hawkish case for USA Spending on Ukraine, the tendency for the argument to veer from boosterism ("We've got Putin on the ropes! To doomsaying ("Putin's getting stronger every day! While describing the same strategic landscape.

The case Vance pressed in Munich is more consistent, and its premises — not isolationist but Asia-first, more concerned about the Taiwan Strait than the Donbas — have supplied the common ground for Republican critics of our Ukraine policy since early in the war. But consistency is not the same as correctness, and it's worth looking for a moment at why this kind of argument makes Ukraine hawks so frustrated.

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In part, there's a suspicion that some of the people making an Asia-first case don't fully believe it, that it's just a more respectable way of sloughing off American obligations and that if the conservative base or Donald Trump decided it wasn't worth fighting for Taiwan, many China-hawk Republicans would come up with some excuse to justify inaction.

But assuming good faith — and whatever the calculations of Republican politicians, many China hawks are entirely on the level — there's also the problem that this argument privileges hypothetical aggression over real aggression, a potential war over a current one, "contingencies in East Asia" (to quote Vance, again) over an actuality in Eastern Europe. We can't do everything to stop Vladimir Putin today because of something Beijing might conceivably do tomorrow is the fundamental claim, and you can see why people chafe at it.

Indeed, despite agreeing with the overall Asia-first assessment, I chafe at it myself — enough to think that the Biden administration made the right call backing Ukraine initially and that a sharp cutoff in aid would be a mistake even if we should be seeking an armistice.

But weighing contingencies against actuality is always part of what statesmen have to do. And the weighing that prioritizes Taiwan over Ukraine, danger in East Asia over actual war in Europe, depends on two presumptions that are worth making explicit and discussing.

The first is that China is serious not just about taking Taiwan but also about doing it soon. If you think China's military buildup and bellicosity are signaling potential annexation in some distant future, then there's no immediate trade-off between Europe and the Pacific. Instead, in that case it becomes reasonable to think that defeating Putin in the 2020's will give Beijing pause in the 2030's and that the long-term commitment to military production required to arm Ukraine for victory will also help deter China 10 years hence.

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But suppose that the peril is much closer, that Beijing's awareness of its long-term challenges makes it more likely to gamble while America is tied down by other crises, internally divided and potentially headed for four years of limited presidential capacity under either party's nominee. In that case our potential strengths in 10 years are irrelevant, and the fact that we're currently building anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles only to burn through them, adding more than $7 in new spending on Ukraine for every $1 dollar in spending related to our Asian and Australian allies and tethering military and diplomatic attention to a trench war in Eastern Europe, means that we're basically inviting the Chinese to make their move, and soon.

Which in turn brings us to the second presumption: that Taiwan falling to its imperial neighbor would change the world for the worse on a greater scale than Ukraine ceding territory or even facing outright defeat.

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If you see the two countries as essentially equivalent, both American clients but not formal NATO-style allies, both democracies vulnerable to authoritarian great-power neighbors, then there's a stronger case for doing everything for Ukraine when it's immediately threatened, regardless of the consequences for Taiwan.

But they are not equivalent. The American commitment to Taiwan goes back almost 70 years, and for all that we've cultivated ambiguity since the Nixon era, the island is still understood to be under the American umbrella in a way that's never been true of Ukraine. Taiwan is also a mature democracy in a way that Ukraine is not, which means its conquest would represent a much more stark form of rollback for the liberal democratic world. And Taiwan's semiconductor industry makes it a much greater economic prize than Ukraine, more likely to hurl the world into recession if the industry is destroyed in a war or grant Beijing newfound power if it's simply absorbed into China's industrial infrastructure.

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Just as important, China is not equivalent to Russia. The latter is a menace but one that — as Vance argues — should theoretically be containable and deterrable, even without American involvement, by a Europe whose G. The. P. Absolutely dwarfs Russia's.

By contrast, China's wealth and potential hard power dwarf all its Asian neighbors, and its conquest of Taiwan would enable a breakout for its naval strength, a much wider projection of authoritarian influence and a reshuffling of economic relationships in Asia and around the world.

For an in-depth argument about these kinds of consequences, I recommend "The Taiwan Catastrophe" by Andrew S. Erickson, Gabriel be. Collins and Matt Pottinger in Foreign Affairs. You don't have to be convinced by every piece of their analysis to grasp the potential stakes. If a Russian victory in Ukraine would feed authoritarian ambitions, a Chinese victory would supercharge them. If Ukraine's defeat would hurt American interests, Taiwan's fall would devastate them.

Which makes the first presumption the dispositive one. If you're seeking full victory in Ukraine, signing up for years of struggle in which Taiwan will be a secondary priority, your choice basically requires betting on China's aggressive intentions being a problem for much later — tomorrow's threat, not today's.

Unlike the Ukraine hawks, I would not take that bet. Unlike the doves, I would not simply cut off the Ukrainians. There is a plausible path between those options, in which aid keeps flowing while the United States pursues a settlement and pivot. But a great deal hangs on whether that narrow way can be traversed: not just for Ukraine or for Taiwan but also for the American imperium as we have known it, the world-bestriding power that we've taken for granted for too long.

"Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

By all means, do read on. LOL. ".

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bill-ackman-joe-biden-democrat/2024/02/21/id/1154385/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895843]I could not read all of it from the full endorsement because the "subscription required" pop-up kept appearing. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm getting that a lot these days, as it's getting tougher to research and provide links with decent articles.

Anyways, couldn't get the ALL the info from your Newsweek link, so I used one that's actual from the paper's website pages: [URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/joe-biden-2024-democratic-primary-president-18670527.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895843] [QUOTE=Spidy;2895818]The are a multitude of [b]excellent acknowledgements[/b] to President Joe Biden's accomplishments, w/r to his fine stewardship of the US economy & country, that is worth re-printing.

[b]We endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States in the Democratic Primary (Opinion)[/b]
By The Editorial Board, Feb 19, 2024
[URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/joe-biden-2024-democratic-primary-president-18670527.php[/URL]

The Houston Chronicles, then goes on to provide several examples of the President's accomplishments.

Unlike Trump's unfulfilled promised to bring back "coal" to rural American workers??? Houston Chronicles, highlights the Biden Infrastructure Bill targets projects in employment distressed counties around the country.

Anyone think Trump would have done the same for a "Dem distressed county", were Biden, won 78% of the vote?

Personally, I'm not yet sold on the "hydrogen solution", being more viable, than the ever growing battery technology space, in the long run...but I guess time will tell, for cleaner hydrogen and said applications, that will use hydrogen.

Well written and gives a fair but glowing account of President Biden's stewardship, well worthy of being the [b]14th Best President in History![/b][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I can't imagine any reputable and credible Real News print, cable / network media or internet source endorsing Trump over Biden for President of the United States of America this time around.

Good lord, based on what numbers, easily observable reality, historical and current data and results, demeanor, behavior or any other important factor?

[b]I mean, what could they possibly cite as a decisive "positive" on Trump's side considering that as a Real News source they would have tracked all those factors throughout Biden's and Trump's entire public lives and can't pretend they didn't know that, on balance, Trump's were godawful for America while Biden's were clear net positives for America.[/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, on what earth, could they have come to any other conclusion and still call themselves journalists? I was just so surprised to see that it was a Texas based news source, I almost feel outta my chair.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2895867]"Man, are cult members of the MAGATea Party hopping mad about this:

Major Texas Newspaper Endorses Joe Biden.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/houston-chronicle-endorse-biden-texas-trump-maga-1871423[/URL]

By all means, do read on. LOL. ".

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bill-ackman-joe-biden-democrat/2024/02/21/id/1154385/[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. From your link:

[QUOTE]"Nikki Haley, who I like and who I have supported, does not look like she's going to make it," he said. "Trump is really kind of running the table.[/QUOTE]So, Joe Biden, who on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics sites' Poll of Polls / Consensus has Biden and Trump in a statistical tie, rarely more than 2 percentage points apart, while neither of them has been officially declared his Party's Nominee and while Biden has been busy with a real job and has not even begun to campaign in earnest while Trump has even less to do today than the nothing he did as so-called potus, is "done".

But Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy is practically 60 points behind Trump in the only race anyone is engaged in at the moment, the race for the Party Nomination, "does not look like she's going to make it. "

LOL. Wow. So perceptive. How did that numbskull become a billionaire? Win the lottery? It can't possibly have anything to do with basic math unless it is about which numbers to pick on his lottery tickets. LOL.

I might be way off, but I have a hunch that DJT does not have the cash to put up for the appeal this case. I don't know if he can get a bond agency to represent him for this amount.

My reasoning is that most of his assets are illiquid that's why he asked for the 30 days extension, which has been denied. No one knows how much cash he has, but if it's under $300 million, he may get liquidated. We will all know in 30 days or so. 30-days starts when Judgement is signed off, which hasn't happened yet.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2896055]I might be way off, but I have a hunch that DJT does not have the cash to put up for the appeal this case. I don't know if he can get a bond agency to represent him for this amount.

My reasoning is that most of his assets are illiquid that's why he asked for the 30 days extension, which has been denied. No one knows how much cash he has, but if it's under $300 million, he may get liquidated. We will all know in 30 days or so. 30-days starts when Judgement is signed off, which hasn't happened yet.[/QUOTE][B]How Trump's 'I'm rich!' boasts are coming back to bite him in court.
Feb. 2, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-wealth-rich-bragging-court-damage-verdicts-2024-2[/URL]

[QUOTE]Before its $83M verdict, the Carroll defamation jury watched Trump brag on tape about his wealth.

"We have a lot of cash," the jury watched Trump boast.
....
It was was as good as parading Trump before the jury with a "kick me" sign taped to his back.

"We have a lot of cash," Trump boasted in the clip that Carroll's jurors saw last Thursday morning.

"I believe we have substantially in excess of $400 million in cash, which is a lot for a developer," Trump bragged, leaning toward the camera from his seat at a conference table.

"Developers usually don't have cash," Trump eagerly went on. "We have, I believe, 400 plus, and going up very substantially every month."[/QUOTE]

These are the prepared and rehearsed responses to "the issues" that Do Nothing Repub candidate Trump has been repeating for months on the campaign trail while President Joe Biden has been busy with a real job, producing and presiding over the best Dem Recovery, Economic Expansion, Jobs Creation, Wage Growth, Inflation Reduction, Crime and Murder Reduction, Global Democracy-Strengthening, No USA Wars, Effective National Security presidential terms in history:

[B]Opinion: I watched a Trump rally so you dont have to. But you need to know what hes saying.
Feb. 22, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-22/michigan-donald-trump-election-rally-immigration-nikki-haley[/URL]

That is a MUST READ. LOL.

Meanwhile, after every Repub, Repub Voter, Pro Repub "Bothsider" and pro Repub Mainstream Media pundit and spinner has spent 4 years of free reign characterizing Joe Biden as an incoherent, brain-dead old codger incapable of rolling out of bed in the morning, as the Dem Nominee vs the Repub Nominee he will absolutely slaughter that Repub Numbskull on any and every presidential issue asked about by any unbiased moderator on any debate stage or televised interview Trump can't find a hiding place deep enough in his basement to avoid. LOL.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2896055]I might be way off, but I have a hunch that DJT does not have the cash to put up for the appeal this case. I don't know if he can get a bond agency to represent him for this amount.

My reasoning is that most of his assets are illiquid that's why he asked for the 30 days extension, which has been denied. No one knows how much cash he has, but if it's under $300 million, he may get liquidated. We will all know in 30 days or so. 30-days starts when Judgement is signed off, which hasn't happened yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896078][b]$450 Million in cash is no problem for Trump. Unless he was lying, of course. LOL [/b]

[B]How Trump's 'I'm rich!' boasts are coming back to bite him in court.
Feb. 2, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-wealth-rich-bragging-court-damage-verdicts-2024-2[/URL][/QUOTE]

I'm waiting to see if the winger billionaires (ie. Elon Musk, Paul Singer and co.), are gullible enough, to show up and pay his legal fees, as some have suggested...kkkk!

But strangely enough, Florida Repubs, attempted to push a $5 million dollar legislative bill, to pay Trump's legal bills...Ouch!!! That was until DeStantis put the kibosh on it!

[b]Florida plan to have taxpayers pay Trumps legal bills...[/b]
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/22/florida-trump-legal-bills-00136984[/URl]

Yep, there's a sucker born every second, in Trump world!

PS: You can bet New Yorkers, are LMAO, at Floridians...kkkk! (Good riddance, you can have the mob boss and crime family)

I hope Joe Biden wins another 4 years, you lot deserve him.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2896197]I hope Joe Biden wins another 4 years, you lot deserve him.[/QUOTE]That is one of the sweetest, most generous and considerate sentiments anyone has expressed here in a long time. We all needed that!

Much appreciated.

And all good blessings are wished for you and yours, too!

[B]Man Facing 91 Felonies Vows To Bring 'Very Powerful Crime' To DC[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/man-facing-91-felonies-promises-bring-very[/URL]

[QUOTE]"No, we're going to take over Washington, D.C., we're going to federalize, we're going to have very powerful crime, and you're going to be proud of it again," Donald vowed.[/QUOTE]Surely, Fux News will devote an hour of primetime examining this demonstration of serious cognitive decline and impairment by the frontrunner candidate for a major Party presidential nomination.

Unless he really meant what he said, of course. In which case, shouldn't they still devote an hour of primetime to, you know, questioning why anyone would vote for such an outcome?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896116]These are the prepared and rehearsed responses to "the issues" that Do Nothing Repub candidate Trump has been repeating for months on the campaign trail while President Joe Biden has been busy with a real job, producing and presiding over the best Dem Recovery, Economic Expansion, Jobs Creation, Wage Growth, Inflation Reduction, Crime and Murder Reduction, Global Democracy-Strengthening, No USA Wars, Effective National Security presidential terms in history:

[B]Opinion: I watched a Trump rally so you dont have to. But you need to know what hes saying.
Feb. 22, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-22/michigan-donald-trump-election-rally-immigration-nikki-haley[/URL]

That is a MUST READ. LOL.

Meanwhile, after every Repub, Repub Voter, Pro Repub "Bothsider" and pro Repub Mainstream Media pundit and spinner has spent 4 years of free reign characterizing Joe Biden as an incoherent, brain-dead old codger incapable of rolling out of bed in the morning, as the Dem Nominee vs the Repub Nominee he will absolutely slaughter that Repub Numbskull on any and every presidential issue asked about by any unbiased moderator on any debate stage or televised interview Trump can't find a hiding place deep enough in his basement to avoid. LOL.[/QUOTE]Another great article!

[QUOTE]One thing there is more of than in the past, despite the kids in the audience: profanity. And more than ever, given the scores of criminal charges and mountain of legal penalties hes facing, there are his grievances. These arent rallies anymore. [b]They're pity parties.[/b] ...

...Instead, Trumps supporters emit constant catcalls, boos and their own favorite profanities, in approving response to his nonstop caterwauling.
[/QUOTE]Yep, to no one's surprise, it was [U]all about him[/U], never about what he or the Repubs, are going to do for the American people. No doubt why supporters are walking out of his diatribe, half-way through.

Call it for what it is, [B]"The Trump, (John Wick) Revenge Tour"[/B].

Mussolini was killed by a communist partisan, it has been reported, his body hung up, stoned and spat upon. Will the homegrown Stable Genius walk free, not before his minions finish off the Constitution?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2896336]Mussolini was killed by a communist partisan, it has been reported, his body hung up, stoned and spat upon. Will the homegrown Stable Genius walk free, not before his minions finish off the Constitution?[/QUOTE]Huh! Just occurred to me how much he actually resembles Mussolini from his rhetoric down to mannerism. Shit! Just watch some old videos. Uncanny!

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2896336]Mussolini was killed by a communist partisan, it has been reported, his body hung up, stoned and spat upon. Will the homegrown Stable Genius walk free, not before his minions finish off the Constitution?[/QUOTE] Author, Ruth Ben-Gihat's - "Strongmen". Mussolini to the present [Trump]. She does make similar comparisons and parallelisms, to the present incarnation. As for the Constitution, I think that will survive Trump/-ism.

But will democracy, the justice system and rule of law?

[B]Donald Trump calls wife 'Melania Mercedes' during live CPAC speech.
Feb. 24, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/donald-trump-melania-wife-cpac-live-b2502010.html[/URL]#text=Former%20 president%20 Donald%20 Trump%20 called, how%20%E2%80%9 Cpeople%20 love%20 her%E2%80%9 the.

[QUOTE]Former president Donald Trump called Melania Mercedes as he praised his wife during a speech in Washington DC.

The crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) gave the former First Lady a standing ovation as Mr Trump described how people love her.

[B]"Oh look at that Mercedes, thats pretty good",[/b] he said as the audience stood and applauded.

The GOP presidential hopeful was making the keynote speech on 24 February on the same day as voters head to the polls in the South Carolina primary.[/QUOTE]Uh.

Headlines on Fux News or Mainstream Media sources?

Nope.

Trump's handlers now give him written notes for him to focus on and read from when he is expected to introduce his wife, Melania.

Lolol.

Please finalize these primary elections, officially name Trump and Biden the Nominees and bring on the Presidential Debates!

Hunter Biden, right-wing, Repub conspiracists, what's that now....crickets!!!

Not a peep out of our resident Repub Hunter Biden [i]"laptop dick picks"[/i], [i]"nihilist", "useful idiot"[/i] and local conspiracist, [b]aka.Elvis 2008[/b]

I wonder is that because the nihilists, insurrectionists and conspiracists pundits over at FOXY Muse, after weeks of regurgitating and spew lies and misinformation about Hunter Biden, from their so called "reliable", "noteworthy", "top-notch" "star-witness", "confidential human source", "trusted highly credible", FBI-informant ....[u]SUDDENLY[/u] have nothing to report, say, tell and/or lie about to their [b]gullible right-wing audience?[/b]

[QUOTE][b]Ex-FBI informant charged with lying about Bidens, arrested again[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/22/fbi-informant-biden-alexander-smirnov-arrest[/URL]

Prosecutors say Smirnov [b]falsely told[/b] his FBI handler that executives from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Joe and Hunter Biden $5m each around 2015. The claim became central to the Republican impeachment inquiry of President Biden in Congress...[/QUOTE]

Week after week, ex-FBI informant, Alexander Smirnov, has been feeding gullible Repubs, Russian misinformation and disinformation on Hunter Biden and they in turn, they feed their right-wing partisan party-run propaganda machine over at FOXY Muse.

Both right-wing morally bankrupt and unscrupulous institutions, being what they are, have been "lapping-up" the "Russian State milk" disinformation, like a bunch of sad pussy-cats at milking time. They've turned into a bunch of [b]"useful idiots"[/b], Russian Gov't and State media, knew they would easily become.

Now their precious asset, is indicted on criminal charges, [b]not a peep[/b] from James Comer (R-KY) and Jim Jordan (R-OH) over in Repub world, or Sean Hannity and the other gullible but [b]"useful idiot"[/b] pundits over at Foxy Muse.

But not to worry, [i]all ye Repub faithless[/i], your [i][b]"useful idiots"[/b][/i] will no doubt, be back soon enough, doubling-down on Hunter Biden [i]"dick-picks"[/i], lies, misinformation and disinformation, from [i]"highly credible and trusted"[/i] [Russian] informants and naturally more empty promises, to impeach the Bidens.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2896809]Hunter Biden, right-wing, Repub conspiracists, what's that now....crickets!!!

Not a peep out of our resident Repub Hunter Biden [i]"laptop dick picks"[/i], [i]"nihilist", "useful idiot"[/i] and local conspiracist, [b]aka.Elvis 2008[/b]

I wonder is that because the nihilists, insurrectionists and conspiracists pundits over at FOXY Muse, after weeks of regurgitating and spew lies and misinformation about Hunter Biden, from their so called "reliable", "noteworthy", "top-notch" "star-witness", "confidential human source", "trusted highly credible", FBI-informant ....SUDDENLY have nothing to report, say, tell and/or lie about to their [b]gullible right-wing audience?[/b]

Week after week, ex-FBI informant, Alexander Smirnov, has been feeding gullible Repubs, Russian misinformation and disinformation on Hunter Biden and they in turn, they feed their right-wing partisan party-run propaganda machine over at FOXY Muse.

Both right-wing morally bankrupt and unscrupulous institutions, being what they are, have been "lapping-up" the "Russian State milk" disinformation, like a bunch of sad pussy-cats at milking time. They've turned into a bunch of [b]"useful idiots"[/b], Russian Gov't and State media, knew they would easily become.

Now their precious asset, is indicted on criminal charges, [b]not a peep[/b] from James Comer (R-KY) and Jim Jordan (R-OH) over in Repub world, or Sean Hannity and the other gullible but [b]"useful idiot"[/b] pundits over at Foxy Muse.

But not to worry, [i]all ye Repub faithless[/i], your [i][b]"useful idiots"[/b][/i] will no doubt, be back soon enough, doubling-down on Hunter Biden [i]"dick-picks"[/i], lies, misinformation and disinformation, from [i]"highly credible and trusted"[/i] Russian informants and naturally more empty promises, to impeach the Bidens.[/QUOTE]Now that it has been exposed that the well-established, long-term deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump naturally extends to a deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and the entire Republican Party as well as Fux News, Newsmax, Breitbart and all the other Repub sides of it, anyone who repeats the lies Russia had been shovel-feeding Repubs down their throats so they will dutifully vomit it back out to the American public risks either settling out of court in a panic for at least $787 Million or being indicted for Aiding and Abetting Russian Interference of America's Free and Fair Elections or both.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896831]Now that it has been exposed that the well-established, long-term deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump naturally extends to a deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and the entire Republican Party as well as Fux News, Newsmax, Breitbart and all the other Repub sides of it, anyone who repeats the lies Russia had been shovel-feeding Repubs down their throats so they will dutifully vomit it back out to the American public risks either settling out of court in a panic for at least $787 Million or being indicted for Aiding and Abetting Russian Interference of America's Free and Fair Elections or both.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rachel-maddow-mike-johnson-praising-034853028.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email[/URL]

[URL]https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1759769909154746565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1759769909154746565%7Ctwgr%5Ea4005f7a37918f363ea65640abdeda043d85f715%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fentertainment%2Frachel-maddow-mike-johnson-praising-034853028.html[/URL]

Walter Kirn: Anyway, so having been through the first round of this when it was Pat Robertson's bailiwick, it's now Rachel Maddow who preaches fire and brimstone.

Rachel Maddow: You are not hallucinating, that was two senior Republicans, including the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, praising the Biden administration, saying how much they trust them and value them to deal with what was first reported last week as an emerging national security threat, of Russia trying to put satellite killer nuclear weapons in orbit around the Earth up in space.

Matt Taibbi: You would think there would be, oh, well, Russia's going to be nuking our satellites, so let's have classes in remedial talking face-to-face, this is the USA Postal System, this is what a stamp is. But all this stuff is just so patently absurd. It's been manifestly clear to Americans, since, what, the early '50's, that mutually assured destruction is something that we have to live with on a daily basis. We've known this, we've known that accidental apocalypse is entirely possible, and we're not asked to worry about that, we're asked to worry about this new weapon system that has not even been deployed, and no one has even confirmed the existence of yet. Because why exactly? I don't fully understand. It's clearly connected somehow to trying to get the aid bill passed, the $95 billion aid bill passed.

Walter Kirn: So if Ukraine prevails, if Ukraine repels the invader, does that mean there won't be any space nuke? Will they give up on that?

Matt Taibbi: That's right. How do you connect those dots, right?

Walter Kirn: Or is it more likely, if we put Russia in a corner, may they perhaps accelerate their Dr. Evil plans to knock out all communications around the world? Let's sit back and see the chess board, Rachel.

Matt Taibbi: And, you know, the way people's brains work now is, "Oh, yeah, I heard that. " Right? In other words, once something echoes around long enough, there's a consensus kernel of something that gets into people's minds; and it's a lot of work to extract that, which I think is at the root of a lot of these problems.

Walter Kirn: Oh, dude. I think we've proved that Russia-Gate will never. The notion of Donald Trump, Putin's instrument, will never be extracted from the American brain; and certainly not from about half of the American brain. It just won't be. It was a permanent reality implant.

Walter Kirn: Yeah. Basically, they moved to a level of desperation last week. And as we've said, the space nuke thing is a lot like the National Lampoon, buy this magazine or we'll shoot this puppy.

Matt Taibbi: Right. Right. Yes. Best magazine cover of all time.

Walter Kirn: Yeah. Pass this bill, or space nukes will take out modern life, and the Kessler Syndrome will usher you into eternal darkness. Okay? Does it get any more grave than that?

Matt Taibbi: But National Lampoon was always picking on the kind of absurd over expressions in the American media culture. But that's gone now.

Apart from us, who's really doing that? I mean, who's doing this except for people who are outside the conventional media space? You can't do that. You can't pick on this stuff anymore, which is amazing. Even during the Iraq period, we had the Daily Show, which did pick on both parties, more of the Bush side. That's all gone. There's no satire of this. This is supposed to be our official reality. We're supposed to believe it.

Walter Kirn: Matt, it's even worse. It's not all gone. The Daily Show's back. Jon Stewart is on the air again.

Matt Taibbi: Oh, I know.

Walter Kirn: Except it's the new toothless, defanged, fake Jon Stewart, who isn't making fun of war drums anymore like he used to, but dancing along to them.

Matt Taibbi: I know. I know.

Walter Kirn: As they all are.

Matt Taibbi: It's along with Stephen Colbert, who might as well be wearing epaulets from the special DARPA media squad. I don't know how they expect that people are going to subsist without comic relief, without doubt, skepticism. They think that that's the problem.

Matt Taibbi: And this is another thing that's been hard. It's a new thing. I mean, it's not a new thing, but it's a consistent feature of the stories about this phenomenon, that if when you start to see polls, for instance, about people wanting to discontinue funding or favoring negotiations, these are described as pro-Russian views everywhere. And it becomes this inescapable thing, where if you have any opinion that deviates from this narrative, if you even want to bring up the true but unhelpful, right this malinformation, then you are on the wrong side.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896831]Now that it has been exposed that the well-established, long-term deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump naturally extends to a deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and the entire Republican Party as well as Fux News, Newsmax, Breitbart and all the other Repub sides of it, anyone who repeats the lies Russia had been shovel-feeding Repubs down their throats[/QUOTE]It is a fact that Biden and his administration were dead set against Russia operating the Nordstream pipelines. If you had a working brain, you would recall Trump condemning the Germans over accepting Russian natural gas via these pipelines as well. Biden even says those pipelines will be shut down one way or another. The invasion of Ukraine occurs and the pipelines are blown up.

Even though Biden has said he would take out the pipelines, the administration floats out the ridiculous notion that Russia blew up its own pipeline. Seymour Hersch writes an article in exhaustive detail about how the pipelines were blow up by American special forces. He is mocked but no one dares to sue him.

There is UN proposal to investigate the pipeline. Russia could veto the investigation, but they don't. Who does? The USA.

So it is pretty obvious to me the USA blew up the pipelines. Hell, Biden himself said he would.

Putin is asked by Tucker Carlson who blew up the pipelines. Instead of saying the USA, he jokes and says to Tucker Carlson "you did". Then he goes into the issue and does not mention the USA by name. He says look into who said they would destroy the pipeline and who is capable of doing it.

The American military industrial complex has been sounding warning alarms about China. Tucker Carlson asked about Putin about China, a nation it has a huge border with, and he says we are not worried about them at all.

So my question to you Tooms is one of clarification. When you mention this America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump, you mean the American military industrial complex that staged a terrorist attack and an act of war against Russia right and wants to drain our resources with perpetual wars? That must be the America you mean and if so, I completely agree with your POV.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896831]Now that it has been exposed that the well-established, long-term deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump naturally extends to a deep and intense America-hating collusion between Russia and the entire Republican Party as well as Fux News, Newsmax, Breitbart and all the other Repub sides of it, anyone who repeats the lies Russia had been shovel-feeding Repubs down their throats so they will dutifully vomit it back out to the American public risks either settling out of court in a panic for at least $787 Million or being indicted for Aiding and Abetting Russian Interference of America's Free and Fair Elections or both.[/QUOTE]And by that I mean street smart. He knows how this bullshit works.

He's just waiting until this yet another thunderous scandal dies down, and then-.

He'LL BE BACK (in Arnold's voice), as if nothing has ever happened with yet another breitbart / newsmax / rt invented fiction to steer some more shit.

Not his first rodeo, LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2896936]It is a fact that Biden and his administration were dead set against Russia operating the Nordstream pipelines. If you had a working brain, you would recall Trump condemning the Germans over accepting Russian natural gas via these pipelines as well. Biden even says those pipelines will be shut down one way or another. The invasion of Ukraine occurs and the pipelines are blown up.

Even though Biden has said he would take out the pipelines, the administration floats out the ridiculous notion that Russia blew up its own pipeline. Seymour Hersch writes an article in exhaustive detail about how the pipelines were blow up by American special forces. He is mocked but no one dares to sue him.

There is UN proposal to investigate the pipeline. Russia could veto the investigation, but they don't. Who does? The USA.

So it is pretty obvious to me the USA blew up the pipelines. Hell, Biden himself said he would.

Putin is asked by Tucker Carlson who blew up the pipelines. Instead of saying the USA, he jokes and says to Tucker Carlson "you did". Then he goes into the issue and does not mention the USA by name. He says look into who said they would destroy the pipeline and who is capable of doing it.

The American military industrial complex has been sounding warning alarms about China. Tucker Carlson asked about Putin about China, a nation it has a huge border with, and he says we are not worried about them at all.

So my question to you Tooms is one of clarification. When you mention this America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump, you mean the American military industrial complex that staged a terrorist attack and an act of war against Russia right and wants to drain our resources with perpetual wars? That must be the America you mean and if so, I completely agree with your POV.[/QUOTE]The answer to that question has been documented by Repub vs Dem policy results for the past 100 Years:

The America that Repubs and Russians alike hate is the one where free and fair elections are honored, historic job gains, wage increases, effective national security is achieved, the debt and deficit are kept under control, the government isn't crawling into our bedrooms trying to control our private lives, Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction are unheard of, "Once in 100 Years Disasters" actually do only occur maybe once in 100 Years and not Once In Every Repub Presidency, etc.

Neither Russia nor Repubs can tolerate such an outcome for America. Russia's most obvious expression and demonstration of their hatred for it is its exclusive collusion with the Repub Party to help them win elections and the Repub Party's most obvious expression and demonstration of that same hatred is its loving embrace of Kremlin collusion with them and Trump's ongoing public fellating of his Puppet Master Putin.

BTW, nobody gives a fuck about blaming America for some oil pipeline casualty due entirely to Putin's spectacularly stupid War of Putin's Choice Against Ukraine. Obviously, not even Putin.

Jimmy Kimmel, punks the Trump supporters in South Carolina, and highlights their hypocrisy.

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/debate-and-switch-jimmy-kimmel-gets-trump-supporters-to-reveal-blatant-hypocrisy-in-wild-segment/ar-BB1iRNLa[/URL]
or
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@krislknight/video/7339553152326241578 [/URL]

Too funny! The hypocrisy is so thick, you could almost cut it with a knife! (...kkkk!)


PS: Or search/Google: "Jimmy Kimmel South Carolina" (Sorry at posting, I didn't find a YouTube video version)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897007]The answer to that question has been documented by Repub vs Dem policy results for the past 100 Years:

The America that Repubs and Russians alike hate is the one where free and fair elections are honored, historic job gains, wage increases, effective national security is achieved, the debt and deficit are kept under control, the government isn't crawling into our bedrooms trying to control our private lives, Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction are unheard of, "Once in 100 Years Disasters" actually do only occur maybe once in 100 Years and not Once In Every Repub Presidency, etc.

Neither Russia nor Repubs can tolerate such an outcome for America. Russia's most obvious expression and demonstration of their hatred for it is its exclusive collusion with the Repub Party to help them win elections and the Repub Party's most obvious expression and demonstration of that same hatred is its loving embrace of Kremlin collusion with them and Trump's ongoing public fellating of his Puppet Master Putin.

BTW, nobody gives a fuck about blaming America for some oil pipeline casualty due entirely to Putin's spectacularly stupid War of Putin's Choice Against Ukraine. Obviously, not even Putin.[/QUOTE]Putin playing the victim after starting the war is aburd to say the least.

P.S. I'm not sure what all the Repub historic and cataclysmic Great Depressions, famines, massive job destructions, and other apocalytpic disasters beginning with Lincoln in continuity until now has to do with anything. Then again I suppose that can be shoe horned in about anywhere.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897007]
The America that Repubs and Russians alike hate is the one where free and fair elections are honored, historic job gains, wage increases, effective national security is achieved, the debt and deficit are kept under control, the government isn't crawling into our bedrooms trying to control our private lives.[/QUOTE]LOL. I would ask what country do you live in as an insult, but you live in Thailand not the USA. Yes, what love you show for your country but taking off to a cheaper destination then sticking around and fixing the mess you created.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897007]BTW, nobody gives a fuck about blaming America for some oil pipeline casualty due entirely to Putin's spectacularly stupid War of Putin's Choice Against Ukraine. Obviously, not even Putin.[/QUOTE]You are mad as a hatter on this one. No doubt your fellow Democratic douches line up with you on this one. You are alone with your Democratic douches in thinking that your beloved president engaged in an illegal and disgusting act of terror that could have led to WW3 and a nuclear one at that is "nobody giving a fuck".

And the USA is okay in engaging in terror because Russia did it first? I swear to God you Democratic douches still think Russiagate was true and the years of incessant media coverage on the issue was not a complete waste of time. Then there was Covid and antivaxxers. I have not heard the antivaxxer term in a while. Were you guys right about the vaccines? You douches are still so stupid you think that everyone forgot about that. Covid? What is that? A kind of fruit?

And now the completely innocent Ukraine being attacked by Russia narrative is the next Democratic douche narrative to fall. Here is the new news:

Over the weekend the New York Times published an epic expos. The Spy War: How the see. I. A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin.

The listening post in the Ukrainian forest is part of a see. I. A. -supported network of spy bases constructed in the past eight years that includes 12 secret locations along the Russian border.

Yowza! Officials have long scolded the public that even minor disclosures of "sources and methods" could "risk lives" and must be prevented at all costs. Yet here comes the Times, helping "current and former officials in Ukraine, the United States and Europe" blab a long list of extraordinary details, down to the number of CIA-supported secret bases along the Russian border.

When intelligence sources line up by the hundred to fill newspapers with "secret" details, they're almost always doing one of two things: spreading disinformation, or "pre-bunking" embarrassing future revelations. The lavishly overwritten "secret untold story" that puts advance spin on ugly leaks has become a popular genre across this century's many giant intelligence screwups.

In the case of this new Ukraine story, apart from the self-serving history re-writes (the idea that CIA-Ukraine cooperation started with a cold call on Valentine's Day, 2014 is high comedy), certain details jump out. Although on the surface the Times depicts a heroic partnership against Russian perfidy, it contains an un-subtle leitmotif about civilized America continually begging Ukrainians to lay off atrocities. As the partnership deepened "after 2016," the Times reports, Ukrainians "began staging assassinations and other lethal operations, which violated the terms the White House thought the Ukrainians had agreed to. " Americans were "infuriated" and "threatened to cut off support," but never did. Shocked, shocked!

Future defense intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov led a commando raid into Crimea that killed "several Russian fighters, including the son of a general," a "disaster" that prompted a wigged-out Barack Obama to push for shutting the partnership down. The theme of Ukrainians free-lancing the bloody stuff (especially before the war) is prominent. Also noticeable: the bulk of the article's detailed revelations come from the Brennan era, and Brennan is to an almost humorous degree the hero of the article, displaying Atlas-like resolve, reining in Ukrainian savages on one side of the world while keeping the pusillanimous Obama from losing his nerve on the other.

One last note. When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, academics like John Mearsheimer were blasted for saying the crisis was the West's "fault," and for writing things like:

Since the mid-1990's, Russian leaders have adamantly opposed enlargement and in recent years, they have made it clear that they would not stand by while their strategically important neighbor turned into a Western bastion.

Two years later we're hearing much the same thing from intelligence sources, who tell the Times of a clandestine partnership that involved secret border bases and "transformed Ukraine. Into one of Washington's most important intelligence partners against the Kremlin. " It doesn't justify invasion, but it does poke holes in initial hysteria against acknowledging the depth of the USA -Ukraine strategic partnership. We were told something different two years ago.

The Ukrainian people suffered terribly in the last two years, but if that $61 billion doesn't pass, the priorities of America's Ukraine hawks will shift quickly. In Washington, there's no time like ass-covering time, and the season may be upon us already. End of link.

And here we ago again with the douche who keeps on giving: John Brennan former CIA director, the architect of Russiagate. He is pointing fingers already saying It wasn't me. It was those crazy Ukrainians. Maybe we should have done a little more vetting before calling them heroes and pouring billions in their pockets. The Democratic party-CIA-Ukraine alliance looks like it is going to dissolve and quickly.

As for Russia and the Republican party having an alliance, that is a fucking joke. It speaks volumes about how partisan and stupid our intelligence agencies have gotten that I trust Putin is telling the truth more than the CIA. That is what you get after Russiagate, Hunter Biden's laptop being Russian disinformation, and the so called innocent Ukrainians. That does not mean Putin is good. It means that is how full of shit the intelligence agencies and Democrats have become.

How about spending money to build stuff versus money to blow shit up? If that is the essence of the Russia-Republican collusion, then I am all for it.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2897232]Putin playing the victim after starting the war is aburd to say the least.

P.S. I'm not sure what all the Repub historic and cataclysmic Great Depressions, famines, massive job destructions, and other apocalytpic disasters beginning with Lincoln in continuity until now has to do with anything. Then again I suppose that can be shoe horned in about anywhere.[/QUOTE]That was in response to. Elvis' question:

"So my question to you Tooms is one of clarification. When you mention this America-hating collusion between Russia and Trump / Team Trump, you mean the American military industrial complex that staged a terrorist attack and an act of war against Russia right and wants to drain our resources with perpetual wars? That must be the America you mean and if so, I completely agree with your POV. ".

I don't see how my answer regarding the Repub Party's historic results for the country going back 100 years being precisely the same as those wished for by Putin / Russia shoe-horns my point into it rather than addresses it directly.

100 years would take it back to 1924, not to Lincoln's presidency.

Putin / Russia could not have wished for better results for America than the Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produced ever since then along with none of the opposite historic boom times and jobs creation.

And since at least 2016 they have not wanted to risk merely "wishing" for it. They have decided shovel-feeding their anti-Dem / anti-America talking points down the lovingly receptive throats of pro Repub media, Repub candidates and Repub elected officials to be enthusiasticslly vomited back out to the American electorate provides much more certainty of a cozy, deep and intense collusion with their America-hating Repub comrades already residing within America's borders.

Why only "wish" for it when they've got Trump, Tucker, Fux, Newsmax, Breitbart, virtually every Repub in Congress and the Repub voting base ready, willing and eager to make that wish their command for the low low price of simply providing them the words and suggested methods?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897247]LOL. I would ask what country do you live in as an insult, but you live in Thailand not the USA. Yes, what love you show for your country but taking off to a cheaper destination then sticking around and fixing the mess you created.

You are mad as a hatter on this one. No doubt your fellow Democratic douches line up with you on this one. You are alone with your Democratic douches in thinking that your beloved president engaged in an illegal and disgusting act of terror that could have led to WW3 and a nuclear one at that is "nobody giving a fuck".

And the USA is okay in engaging in terror because Russia did it first? I swear to God you Democratic douches still think Russiagate was true and the years of incessant media coverage on the issue was not a complete waste of time. Then there was Covid and antivaxxers. I have not heard the antivaxxer term in a while. Were you guys right about the vaccines? You douches are still so stupid you think that everyone forgot about that. Covid? What is that? A kind of fruit?.[/QUOTE]I pay every USA dollar of the taxes I owe and vote straight Democrat down every ballot in every election I am legally entitled to vote in.

Those two efforts alone far, far, far surpass anything positive Trump, the Repubs in Congress and every Repub voter has ever done for America.

And, yep, I have managed to provide more positive benefits for America allll the way around the globe than any Repub Voter anywhere inside or outside of America. Significantly more than anyone who ever voted for Trump, of course.

You're welcome.

Guess he doesn't have the money after all.

After 30 day of when the judgement was official, February 23,2024, the NY AG can go to the court enforce the judgement and seize assets up to the $454 million plus $111 K per day of interests. Unless, in the next 3 weeks, he can raise the other $354 million through sneakers, NFTs, RNC, Save America Pac, "friends" or bond agency, AG James will have fire sales of properties.

Listed sources you can read up on it. Fox News did not mention this story, so sorry I couldn't include it.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/28/trump-appeal-bond-fraud-case[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/28/trump-lawyers-plan-to-post-100-million-bond-in-ny-fraud-appeal.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/nyregion/trump-bond-civil-fraud.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/28/politics/donald-trump-appeals-court-new-york/index.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3253578/donald-trump-cant-post-full-bond-new-york-fraud-case-offers-us100-million[/URL]

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/02/28/trump-asks-appeals-court-to-pause-454-million-fraud-payment/?sh=60eb3ff212dc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-civil/2024/02/28/id/1155292/[/URL]

Would that be a big "YES" for you as it is for me?

Consider the following:[LIST]YES, to another Trump, at the head of another Repub organization, at the ready to turn it to shit.[/LIST][LIST]YES, to yet another Trump grift, as Lara Trump, gleefully and commandingly tells Repub/MAGA world, that the RNC donor monies and coffers, will be going to fund "Trumps 2024 campaign" aka. Trump's legal bills and legal fees.[/LIST][LIST]YES, to this RNC grift, siphoning off money by the Trumps, thereby leaving nothing (or very little) for other Repubs running for Senate, House, state, gubernatorial, mayoral...etc, candidacies around the country.[/LIST][LIST]YES to [b]no money[/B] for support of other Repubs campaigns, down ballot.[/LIST][LIST]YES to more "loyalists" being [I]"thrown under the bus",[/I] in Ronna 'Romney' McDaniel (...so much for loyalty...kkk!)

AND[/LIST][LIST]Vote YES for Lara Trump for RNC Co-Chair! (For a [b]new RNC,[/b] that promises and [b]vows to bring chaos, grifting and thuggery to a RNC chapter near you![/b])[/LIST]P.S.: All this seems very on par for the autocrat and wanna be dictator. Even on queue, as he stalls yet another family member into the right-wing Repub apparatus.

Repubs, [b]embrace the chaos[/b], about to unfold!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897247]

As for Russia and the Republican party having an alliance, that is a fucking joke. It speaks volumes about how partisan and stupid our intelligence agencies have gotten that I trust Putin is telling the truth more than the CIA.[/QUOTE]What a brilliant argument (Not if a fella (let's call him – I don't know – Evil S) believes quacks, charlatans, and hoodwinkers more than scientists, doctors, and other trained professionals -- that's not the fault of said professionals. That's Evil S being a moron and a loser.

On the same token, if Evil admits trusting mortal enemies of his country more than security agencies protecting his country, that makes him a useful idiot (in addition to having already classified himself as a moron and a loser).

Of course, being a moron and an idiot would prevent Mr. S from realizing how idiotic and illogical his arguments are, so he won't shy away from posting his musings.

Which he should've to avoid being ridiculed, but alas.

Like the devastating results of abortion bans that are affecting successful wins for the Repubs in the 2020, 2022 and 2023 Elections (all thanks to Trump [i]"I was able to KILL Roe v Wade"[/i]), will IVF be next nail in the Repub 2024 Election coffin? For the presidency and well as down ballot?

Since DOBBS overturned Roe v. Wade, sending nationwide abortion back to the states, Repubs have;[LIST]
--pushed abortion ban in red states, but with an eye on nationwide bans
--denied an individuals the right to end an unwanted pregnancy
--denied a women the right to end a pregnancy, if her life is in imminent danger
--denied in general, women's reproductive rights
--denied women's health care in red states?
--denied doctors, their rights to administer proper health care, in pregnancy complications
--banned calls for the nationwide ban of the Mifepristone, abortion pill. Trump appointed, right-wing TX Judge has case before the Supreme Court to decide the drug's fate

AND now have:

--denied families their right to have children thru IVF (In vitro fertilization)
--denied access to IVF clinics in red states, as IVF clinics shutdown and contemplate their future, before an Alabama court ruling, on if embryos are "children"?
--denied families the right to IVF health care and monetary compensation for the thousands of dollars spent on IVF treatment. [LIST]As onset trauma fills the women and families that are suffering from the Alabama IVF ruling, these families in red states, are rushing to move their [b]IVF eggs to safer blue state IVF clinics,[/b] in fear of their red state following Alabama.

After spending countless hours and thousands and thousands of dollars preparing for IVF, Only be told a day before their procedures are cancelled, their dreams of having of adding to their family union, are put on hold, if not shattered.[/LIST][b]Note:[/b] Repub ex-Vice Pres. Mike Pence, had the good fortune of using IVF to add to the his family union. Interview November 20, 2022: [URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-fertility-treatments-ivf-supreme-court-face-the-nation/[/URL][/LIST]So as Repubs, again twist themselves into more pretzels, trying to [b][i]"shuck and jive"[/i][/b] their way out of [u]voting against IVF on record[/u] (or even allow a vote to protect IVF), but yet lie in public about supporting IVF (ie. Nancy Mace [R-SC]), like the hypocrites they are.

Hopefully, this sends a clear message to American families, that [b]Repubs can't be trusted on "family values"[/b] and should also vote accordingly down ballot, there by driving another nail in the proverbial coffin of the Repubs.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897007] The America that Repubs and Russians alike hate is the one where free and fair elections are honored, historic job gains, wage increases, effective national security is achieved, the debt and deficit are kept under control, [b]the government isn't [u]crawling into our bedrooms[/u] trying to control our private lives. ...[/b][/QUOTE]
Next up on their minority Christian Right/Evangelical agenda and Repub/MAGA docket, is good ol' [b]contraception[/b] and what some of the devout call [b]"recreational sex"[/b], as opposed to what, I'm not really sure.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2897502]What a brilliant argument (Not if a fella (let's call him I don't know Evil S) believes quacks, charlatans, and hoodwinkers more than scientists, doctors, and other trained professionals -- that's not the fault of said professionals. That's Evil S being a moron and a loser.

On the same token, if Evil admits trusting mortal enemies of his country more than security agencies protecting his country, that makes him a useful idiot (in addition to having already classified himself as a moron and a loser).

Of course, being a moron and an idiot would prevent Mr. S from realizing how idiotic and illogical his arguments are, so he won't shy away from posting his musings.

Which he should've to avoid being ridiculed, but alas.[/QUOTE]The fact that currently many in our institutions are Trump appointees, or the fact that Putin is an obvious liar and serial killer that habitually interferes in US elections makes no difference to them. They've put themselves in an information vacuum where they are indoctrinated and inoculated. In the latter case they are told that other news sources are part of some "deep state" or "globalist" conspiracy. They no more listen to the opposition than any other cult member in the world. They've been around at least since the 90's, as I used to listen to them on shortwave radio. Then shockingly they won the WH in 2016.

Political discussions with the hardcore ones are a waste of time. All you can do is beat them at polls. Make sure you show up, and take as many people with you as you can.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2897502]
On the same token, if Evil admits trusting mortal enemies of his country more than security agencies protecting his country, that makes him a useful idiot (in addition to having already classified himself as a moron and a loser).

Of course, being a moron and an idiot would prevent Mr. S from realizing how idiotic and illogical his arguments are, so he won't shy away from posting his musings.

Which he should've to avoid being ridiculed, but alas.[/QUOTE]I always wondered how you guys claim to love our country so much when it hates you and what you do with your money so much. There is a video of a guy running a brothel agency in the USA here: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9kQuy90OGM[/URL].

I watch the video and it is scary at the end. When he got busted, I think to myself something like this could happen to me. In his book, he mentions that prosecutors did not even give him discovery. It was disgusting, as bad as our legal system can be. It is rare to even have jury trials anymore. If they have to work and could possibly lose, the prosecution will throw the book at you. In the ultimate hypocrisy, people at the district attorney's office were actually clients of this brothel owner.

In the mean time, paying for sex in Russia is no big deal. I know someone who spent a year in Russia and said the women there think having sex is almost like getting a handshake. Abortions were easy to get, and the women did not have the victim mindset. The concept of a woman getting half while doing nothing in a marriage does not exist there. Taxes are low, and Russia does not have near the debt the USA does.

Why are you so convinced the government who hates you and wants to throw you in jail is your friend and the one who wants to leave you be is your enemy? And then I realized that is because you are a narcissist. In your fucked up head, you have convinced yourself the government does not hate you. They hate guys like Elvis. They do not hate me. They love me.

I knew after the AIDS fiasco to not trust government. The whole concept of safe sex and condom use and AIDS prevention with heterosexual sex was so the CDC could rake in the bucks. That was exposed. In your mind, Xpartan, you think everyone in the CDC marched in lockstep with that call when that was hardly the case. The CDC scared heterosexuals to get more funding and it worked.

If you are such a fan of government and they tell you it is wrong to pay for sex, why do you do it?

How as a man let alone a monger can you be cheering on the $85 million verdict against Trump in this absolute bullshit fake rape case? Because he is the enemy? Oh right, I forgot. You think government loves you.

I was at the Fort Lauderdale airport and there is this nonstop PSA blaring every 30 minutes about human trafficking. I shake my head. Welcome to the USA. But Xpartan, you think when they mention human trafficking they are talking about people other than you. Remember this was the city where Robert Kraft went to an AMP and got a rub and tug and the prosecution tried to say he was promoting trafficking. So they will go after Robert Kraft but not you?

What me so suspicious of you guys is you should be cheering Trump on. The "grab them by the pussy" comment was basically saying that women will fuck men for fame just as much as for money. He fucked porn stars and was married three times.

So why the hate for Trump and such love for organizations like the CDC? Besides the narcissism, I think you guys have to be getting paid off with some kind of government check. At least I hope you have been.

And for the record, the pandemic ended not because of the CDC or Biden; it ended when people realized the government was lying.

And speaking of lying, you have not gotten a Covid booster in the last year. You would rather lie than admit you were wrong, but the biggest lie is one you tell yourself. You have convinced your government loves you.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2897547]Like the devastating results of abortion bans that are affecting successful wins for the Repubs in the 2020, 2022 and 2023 Elections (all thanks to Trump [i]"I was able to KILL Roe v Wade"[/i]), will IVF be next nail in the Repub 2024 Election coffin? For the presidency and well as down ballot?

Since DOBBS overturned Roe v. Wade, sending nationwide abortion back to the states, Repubs have;

--pushed abortion ban in red states, but with an eye on nationwide bans
--denied an individuals the right to end an unwanted pregnancy
--denied a women the right to end a pregnancy, if her life is in imminent danger
--denied in general, women's reproductive rights
--denied women's health care in red states?
--denied doctors, their rights to administer proper health care, in pregnancy complications
--banned calls for the nationwide ban of the Mifepristone, abortion pill. Trump appointed, right-wing TX Judge has case before the Supreme Court to decide the drug's fate

AND now have:

--denied families their right to have children thru IVF (In vitro fertilization)
--denied access to IVF clinics in red states, as IVF clinics shutdown and contemplate their future, before an Alabama court ruling, on if embryos are "children"?
--denied families the right to IVF health care and monetary compensation for the thousands of dollars spent on IVF treatment. [LIST]As onset trauma fills the women and families that are suffering from the Alabama IVF ruling, these families in red states, are rushing to move their [b]IVF eggs to safer blue state IVF clinics,[/b] in fear of their red state following Alabama.

After spending countless hours and thousands and thousands of dollars preparing for IVF, Only be told a day before their procedures are cancelled, their dreams of having of adding to their family union, are put on hold, if not shattered.[/LIST][b]Note:[/b] Repub ex-Vice Pres. Mike Pence, had the good fortune of using IVF to add to the his family union. Interview November 20, 2022: [URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-fertility-treatments-ivf-supreme-court-face-the-nation/[/URL][/LIST]So as Repubs, again twist themselves into more pretzels, trying to [b][i]"shuck and jive"[/i][/b] their way out of [u]voting against IVF on record[/u] (or even allow a vote to protect IVF), but yet lie in public about supporting IVF (ie. Nancy Mace [R-SC]), like the hypocrites they are.

Hopefully, this sends a clear message to American families, that [b]Repubs can't be trusted on "family values"[/b] and should also vote accordingly down ballot, there by driving another nail in the proverbial coffin of the Repubs.


Next up on their minority Christian Right/Evangelical agenda and Repub/MAGA docket, is good ol' [b]contraception[/b] and what some of the devout call [b]"recreational sex"[/b], as opposed to what, I'm not really sure.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind that the Repubs' decades long War On Sex For Pleasure And Reproductive Rights at this stage appears to be heading toward banning "chemical" methods of contraception, the kinds that were invented and developed by scientists so as not to reduce the pleasure that human beings experience while engaging in Real Sex / BBFS+CIP.

Never fear, condom-lovers, the famously anti-science Repub Party has not yet eyed access and use of condoms or any other method of contraception that could easily have been invented and developed by blacksmiths and wood-carvers rather than scientists.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897713]

In the mean time, paying for sex in Russia is no big deal. I know someone who spent a year in Russia and said the women there think having sex is almost like getting a handshake. Abortions were easy to get, and the women did not have the victim mindset. The concept of a woman getting half while doing nothing in a marriage does not exist there. Taxes are low, and Russia does not have near the debt the USA does.[/QUOTE]I still don't see why people like you, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes don't put your money where you mouth is and move to Russia. Could be because you don't want to live in a dark dictatorship where the slightest dissent can put you in a frozen penal colony for 20 years, if by chance you could last that long. You might also enjoy features like the right to assemble, due process of law, and all that goes with living in a country with over seven times the average monthly salary of Russia. There's also no reason for you to put up with an underfunded and poor performing Russian healthcare system as you age, and the list can go on, while we are left to wonder why the Russian oligarchs always send their children to the feminist Western Euro countries to live. This while they often move there themselves. No, it's far more practical for you to live, breathe, and ***** from the safe confines of the US. Our rights apply to most everyone, even you.

P.S. If you are for reproductive freedom the first thing you can do is stop voting Republican, a statement of the obvious I know.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897731]Bear in mind that the [b]Repubs' decades long War On Sex For Pleasure And Reproductive Rights[/b] at this stage appears to be heading toward banning "chemical" methods of contraception, the kinds that were invented and developed by scientists so as not to reduce the pleasure that human beings experience while engaging in Real Sex / BBFS+CIP.

Never fear, condom-lovers, the famously anti-science Repub Party has not yet eyed access and use of condoms or any other method of contraception that could easily have been invented and developed by blacksmiths and wood-carvers rather than scientists.[/QUOTE]

At the vanguard of said [i]"decades long War On Sex For Pleasure And Reproductive Rights"[/i], just to mention but a few of the Repub medieval and backwards ideals.

Well after these latest two (2) SCOTUS rulings (and the timing of the hearings), there's clearly no doubt now that SCOTUS, is simply a Republican Court, that has thrown out the time honored wisdom that [b]"Justice is Blind"[/b] and is very much now aligned themselves with right-wing Repub party politics.

Again, it was no surprise here! But I guess I was hoping! (...foolishly is would seem)

[b]Supreme Court to decide Trump immunity claim[/b]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-legal-cases-court-02-28-24/index.html[/URL]

AND

[b]Takeaways from the Supreme Court arguments over bump stocks and machine guns[/b]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/28/politics/takeaways-supreme-court-bump-stocks-machine-gun/index.html[/URL]

A Repub SCOTUS, will be deeply troubling going forward, but that's what Americans will have to deal with unfortunately, for the foreseeable future.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897731]Bear in mind that the Repubs' decades long War On Sex For Pleasure And Reproductive Rights at this stage appears to be heading toward banning "chemical" methods of contraception, the kinds that were invented and developed by scientists so as not to reduce the pleasure that human beings experience while engaging in Real Sex / BBFS+CIP.
[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/28/russia-limits-womens-access-to-abortion-citing-demographic-changes[/URL]

In 2020, Russia had 314 abortions to 1,000 live births, compared with 188 in the European Union, according to the World Health Organization.

So as part of your made up Russia-Republican alliance, Twisty McPretzel, is the goal of this evil alliance to have more or fewer abortions? I cannot tell. And what is the goal of Democrats? Are you hoping for more?

And the scientists like Fauci love men having sex with women as God intended? LOL. Since when? You Democratic douches rolled the "scientist" Anthony Fauci out to put Trump down. Before he was scaring the shit out of everyone with Covid, there was AIDS. In the context of a conversation about childhood infections: Fauci speculates that "if the close contact of a child is a household contact, perhaps there will be a certain number of cases of individuals who are just living with and in close contact with someone with AIDS, or at risk of AIDS, who does not necessarily have to have intimate sexual contact or share a needle, but just the ordinary close contact that one sees in normal interpersonal relations. ".

Here is the video link of him saying just that: [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/video-resurfaces-fauci-warning-household-180945365.html[/URL].

Where the fuck did you get the idea that a "scientist" like Fauci was in favor of bareback sex?

Then you had the idiocy of Covid and the notion of sex with masks. In hindsight, for myself, I wish the work and travel restrictions stayed in place. I never got so much good and cheap pussy in my life. For Democratic douches like you who hung on his every word, you guys had the worst case of blue balls imaginable. What is amazing is you dumb douches still worship at the alter of Fauci.

Hey Twisty, how many back operations have you had? Because at this rate, you are going to need a few more.

No need to contrast the difference between Do Nothing, Open Borders-Loving Trump vs Real POTUS Joe Biden who has actually agreed to sign the bill full of conditions Repubs claimed to want but flip-flopped and rejected at Trump's behest.

The idiotic baby-talk and lies coming out of Trump's pie-hole vs Biden's perfectly lucid, adult, presidential demeanor and genuine invitation (again) to Repubs in Congress to get off their Do Nothing, Deadbeat Butts and give him the legislation to solve the problem since Executive Orders are only temporary at best and any of his on this issue are sure to be held up by Repub legislators and judges, should tell you everything you need to know about which candidate is capable of actually solving it.

And if that isn't enough, please note that Trump and his fellow Repubs have been lying about the "Migrant Crime Wave" inside and outside of the border towns and sanctuary cites from the beginning, all through the middle and right up until now.

From 2017:

[B]No Evidence Sanctuary Cities Breed Crime[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/no-evidence-sanctuary-cities-breed-crime/[/URL]

[QUOTE]In a pre-Super Bowl interview on Fox, President Donald Trump claimed sanctuary cities breed crime. But limited research on the effect of such policies has found no evidence that they lead to overall increases in crime rates.[/QUOTE]From today:

[B]Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data.
An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trumps-claims-migrant-crime-wave-are-not-supported-national-data-rcna140896[/URL]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON When Donald Trump speaks at the southern border in Texas on Thursday, you can expect to hear him talk about migrant crime, a category he has coined and defined as a terrifying binge of criminal activity committed by undocumented immigrants spreading across the country.
.....
But despite the former presidents campaign rhetoric, expert analysis and available data from major-city police departments show that despite several horrifying high-profile incidents, there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.[/QUOTE]Oh, and here is a "Thanks, Joe" bonus report:

[B]Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585[/URL]

[QUOTE]Crime in the United States has declined significantly over the last year, according to new FBI data that contradicts a widespread national perception that law-breaking and violence are on the rise.
....
Asher and other analysts say the natural tendency of the news media to highlight disturbing crime stories and the tendency of those stories to go viral on social media presents a false but persuasive picture.

Videos of flash mobs on shop lifting sprees or carjackings in broad day light are more ubiquitous, even if those crimes are not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897765][URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/28/russia-limits-womens-access-to-abortion-citing-demographic-changes[/URL]

In 2020, Russia had 314 abortions to 1,000 live births, compared with 188 in the European Union, according to the World Health Organization.

So as part of your made up Russia-Republican alliance, Twisty McPretzel, is the goal of this evil alliance to have more or fewer abortions? I cannot tell. And what is the goal of Democrats? Are you hoping for more?

And the scientists like Fauci love men having sex with women as God intended? LOL. Since when? You Democratic douches rolled the "scientist" Anthony Fauci out to put Trump down. Before he was scaring the shit out of everyone with Covid, there was AIDS. In the context of a conversation about childhood infections: Fauci speculates that "if the close contact of a child is a household contact, perhaps there will be a certain number of cases of individuals who are just living with and in close contact with someone with AIDS, or at risk of AIDS, who does not necessarily have to have intimate sexual contact or share a needle, but just the ordinary close contact that one sees in normal interpersonal relations. .[/QUOTE]Here, let me help you figure out the answer to your confusion about which authoritarian dictatorship-loving entity is intent on Outlawing Sex For Pleasure, Russia or the Republican Party:

This is the headline of your link that, mysteriously, you neglected to post:

[B]Russia limits women's access to abortion, citing demographic changes.
Experts say crackdown on abortion drugs and services is part of a project to instil certain values in society.[/B]

Looks to me like both of those entities are all about that. Does it really matter to you if that is the result of the same mindset from the beginning or as the result of their deep and intense collusion on so many issues over the decades?

You choose. How about choosing one answer for it today and then twist yourself into a pretzel about it tomorrow for another answer? Like Repubs on their made up "Border Crisis"! And their made up "Inflation Crisis"! For which they have proposed exactly zero solutions.

And what on earth got you into such a twist over Fauci and some ancient comment about HIV as though that has anything whatsoever to do with the Repub Party targeting pleasure-reserving "chemical" contraceptives but are so far fine with condoms or any other methods of contraception that interferes with evil Sex For Pleasure?

Oh, BTW, why was that ancient video clip of Fauci so abruptly cut practically mid sentence? You know that is always a bad sign for whatever point you Wingers think you are making. And have you got a link for the entire article Fauci wrote on the topic back in prehistoric tines that was referenced? I have a hunch that won't exactly fully support whatever your point was either.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897765]And the scientists like Fauci love men having sex with women as God intended? LOL. Since when? You Democratic douches rolled the "scientist" Anthony Fauci out to put Trump down. Before he was scaring the shit out of everyone with Covid, there was AIDS.[/QUOTE]What does Fauci have to do with you praising Russian reproductive rights while voting Republican? A little bit of focus goes a long way.

Irrespective of what may have caused it, we had a pandemic with over 4 million deaths and likely in the range of a million more unreported. Historically, even going back to early recorded history these tend to last two to three years. I told everyone that they needed to accept what they couldn't change while reaching for some patience. I was exactly right as we've been talking about COVID in the past tense for at least a year now. But no, so many here so eager to get their dicks wet again went chasing after global conspiracy theories.

We also needed to strike a balance to protect the vulnerable, and even children as over 18 K have died from the illness. But MAGAs refused, insisting it was all a global conspiracy to thwart Trump's re-election prospects. As a result, red states as a whole had substantially higher rates of COVID deaths. The lunacy and selfishness were astounding.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2897747]I still don't see why people like you, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes don't put your money where you mouth is and move to Russia.[/QUOTE]Oh, God. Here we go again. A hypocrite who is leaving the USA to get laid telling me how great our country is.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2897747]Our rights apply to most everyone, even you.[/QUOTE]This from a guy who wanted rights tossed in the trash can with Covid. Did you forget this already Paulie? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3yU5Z2adI[/URL].

The reason you are able to go to Colombia now is because people like me called out the government on their Covid bullshit, did our research, and did all we could to ignore them. We convinced enough people they were lying and just when the majority of Americans were seeing through the scam, the government, instead of admitting it, came up with the new crisis de jour, Ukraine. And you have fallen hook, line, and sinker for that scam too.

The USA government was a bigger threat to my freedoms with Covid than Covid was. We printed up $11 trillion for Covid. For what? Now hundreds of billions for Ukraine? For what? Meanwhile, I fly from Fort Lauderdale, a shithole of an airport, to the Bogota airport, which is beautiful. Is it too much to ask that my tax dollars go to infrastructure versus the police / deep state, MIC, and for a virus that was as potent as the flu in most people?

The USA is the best country in the world in which to make a living. For the most people, the American people are compassionate and kind unless they have government or attorneys making them go to war with each other.

You paid American women to have sex and broke the law. You going to lie about that like Tooms too? Are you going to pat yourself on the back and claim to be a law abiding citizen? OMG.

And you make it out like it is me. How many people are going to ignore all the deep state warnings and all the prosecutors and vote for him?

I have an idea. If you do not like Trump as president, why don't you leave?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2897904]...[b]We also needed to strike a balance to protect the vulnerable, and even children[/b] as over 18 K have died from the illness. But MAGAs refused, insisting it was all a global conspiracy to thwart Trump's re-election prospects. As a result, red states as a whole had substantially higher rates of COVID deaths. [u]The lunacy and selfishness were astounding.[/u]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085[/URL][/QUOTE]Absolutely Right!

$100K in fines for MTG refusing to wear a mask in Congress during COVID. Never fails to hit'em up in the pocketbooks!

[b]MTG Loses Battle With SCOTUS Over $500 Mask Mandate Fines[/b]
[URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/mtg-and-gop-reps-lose-battle-with-scotus-over-dollar500-mask-mandate-fines[/URL]

Perhaps Elvis 2008, and other [b]ISG "COVID Warrior Warlords"[/b], will want to add this to his 'war chest' of conspiracies on COVID. Apparently, the selfishness of not wearing masks and infringing on other people's health, has consequences...$100K worth!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2897922]Absolutely Right!

$100K in fines for MTG refusing to wear a mask in Congress during COVID. Never fails to hit'em up in the pocketbooks!

[b]MTG Loses Battle With SCOTUS Over $500 Mask Mandate Fines[/b]
[URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/mtg-and-gop-reps-lose-battle-with-scotus-over-dollar500-mask-mandate-fines[/URL]

Perhaps Elvis 2008, and other [b]ISG "COVID Warrior Warlords"[/b], will want to add this to his 'war chest' of conspiracies on COVID. Apparently, the selfishness of not wearing masks and infringing on other people's health, has consequences...$100K worth![/QUOTE]Yes and this is Trump's SCOTUS. How do "deep state" conspiracy theories fit into that? This is the same SCOTUS that refused to hear stolen election hogwash. They also formally rejected the "independent state legislature theory," which was used by MAGAs in an attempt to steal the election by nullifying the rights of millions of voters who voted in good faith by mail. The word "legislature" had a broader sense at the time of the writing of the Constitution, as the SCOTUS recognized. Thus special voting provisions for COVID were perfectly valid as they were put in place by govt entities with the authority to do so.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/27/supreme-court-north-carolina-voting-rights-maps[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897884] ... Looks to me like both of those entities are all about that. Does it really matter to you if that is the result of the same mindset from the beginning or as the result of their deep and intense collusion on so many issues over the decades?

You choose. How about choosing one answer for it today and then twist yourself into a pretzel about it tomorrow for another answer? Like Repubs on their made up [b]"Border Crisis"![/b] And their made up [b]"Inflation Crisis"![/b] [u]For which they have proposed exactly zero solutions.[/u] ...
[/QUOTE]

Repubs can't win:[LIST] the [b]popular vote[/b] or win at [b]the ballot box[/b],
• can't win on [b]the economy,[/b]
• can't win on the [b]Border Security,[/b]
• can't win on [b]abortion/IVF[/b] and women's health care/rights to autonomy over their own bodies
AND
• can't EVEN WIN on [b]"Hunter Biden Laptop dick-picks",[/b] (as Hunter Biden, just recently debunked and destroyed, the Repubs, behind closed doors, in an Oversight Committee investigation meeting). [/LIST]So what do you do, when you can't win on [b]the law[/b], or with [b]the facts[/b], you of course, invent shit and and make shit up! In other words you try to win on bullshit!

And the latest made up "American crisis", just in time and tailor made for the Repub front runner to campaign on, according to FOXY Muse is, [b]"migrant crimes surge" [/b]or [b]"crime by migrants",[/b] sweeping the country.

[b]After Rise in Murders During the Pandemic, a Sharp Decline in 2023 [/b]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/29/us/crime-data-fbi-homicides.html[/URL]

Just another right-wing dog whistle, to get conservatives, off their couches and panicking in fear, all the way to the voting box. The decline in crime is far better, than since Trump's COVID years of high crime.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2897905]Oh, God. Here we go again. A hypocrite who is leaving the USA to get laid telling me how great our country is.

This from a guy who wanted rights tossed in the trash can with Covid. Did you forget this already Paulie? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3yU5Z2adI[/URL].

The reason you are able to go to Colombia now is because people like me called out the government on their Covid bullshit, did our research, and did all we could to ignore them. We convinced enough people they were lying and just when the majority of Americans were seeing through the scam, the government, instead of admitting it, came up with the new crisis de jour, Ukraine. And you have fallen hook, line, and sinker for that scam too.

The USA government was a bigger threat to my freedoms with Covid than Covid was. We printed up $11 trillion for Covid. For what? Now hundreds of billions for Ukraine? For what? Meanwhile, I fly from Fort Lauderdale, a shithole of an airport, to the Bogota airport, which is beautiful. Is it too much to ask that my tax dollars go to infrastructure versus the police / deep state, MIC, and for a virus that was as potent as the flu in most people?

The USA is the best country in the world in which to make a living. For the most people, the American people are compassionate and kind unless they have government or attorneys making them go to war with each other.

You paid American women to have sex and broke the law. You going to lie about that like Tooms too? Are you going to pat yourself on the back and claim to be a law abiding citizen? OMG.

And you make it out like it is me. How many people are going to ignore all the deep state warnings and all the prosecutors and vote for him?

I have an idea. If you do not like Trump as president, why don't you leave?[/QUOTE]LOL. Nothing better than hearing a rabid Trumper Winger rant about how HIS Trump's Pandemic Closures were even worse for him than HIS Trump's Pandemic Covid was and how American tax dollars should be spent improving Infrastructure after 4 solid years of Classic Do Nothing Repub Trump assuring us his Infrastructure Week plans were coming "in about two weeks" when only Dem Joe Biden proposed, fought for and passed a historic Infrastructure DECADE on a bi-partisan basis!

LOL. Really. Just perfect.

BTW, have you found the section of the Thai Criminal / Penal Code that specifies that consenting adults exchanging money for sex is illegal yet? I can save you the trouble so you too can continue to be a Do Nothing Repub; there isn't one.

BTW Part 2, I hope you enjoy that historic Dem Joe Biden Infrastructure DECADE over there in the USA funded by MY taxe dollars (your beloved Trump assured us he is too "smart" to pay taxes) and facilitated entirely by MY votes for Joe Biden and the Dems.

Again, you're welcome.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2897686]They've been around at least since the 90's, as I used to listen to them on shortwave radio. Then shockingly they won the WH in 2016.[/QUOTE]Nicely put!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2897967][b]Right-Wing spurious claims of 'migrant crime'[/b]
Repubs can't win:[LIST] the [b]popular vote[/b] or win at [b]the ballot box[/b],
can't win on [b]the economy,[/b]
can't win on the [b]Border Security,[/b]
can't win on [b]abortion/IVF[/b] and women's health care/rights to autonomy over their own bodies
AND
can't EVEN WIN on [b]"Hunter Biden Laptop dick-picks",[/b] (as Hunter Biden, just recently debunked and destroyed, the Repubs, behind closed doors, in an Oversight Committee investigation meeting). [/LIST]So what do you do, when you can't win on [b]the law[/b], or with [b]the facts[/b], you of course, invent shit and and make shit up! In other words you try to win on bullshit!

And the latest made up "American crisis", just in time and tailor made for the Repub front runner to campaign on, according to FOXY Muse is, [b]"migrant crimes surge" [/b]or [b]"crime by migrants",[/b] sweeping the country.

[b]After Rise in Murders During the Pandemic, a Sharp Decline in 2023 [/b]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/29/us/crime-data-fbi-homicides.html[/URL]

Just another right-wing dog whistle, to get conservatives, off their couches and panicking in fear, all the way to the voting box. The decline in crime is far better, than since Trump's COVID years of high crime.[/QUOTE][B] Fox News guest decrying migrant crime previously arrested after getting violent over a grilled cheese sandwich he deemed too cheesy.
3/1/2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/jesse-watters/fox-news-guest-decrying-migrant-crime-previously-arrested-after-getting-violent-over[/URL]

[QUOTE]On February 28, Fox News host Jesse Watters hosted "James Lee" on his show to discuss the murder of Laken Riley on the campus of the University of Georgia. Watters did not disclose, however, that Lee is actually James DePaola, who has had multiple run-ins with the law himself, including when he became violent over a grilled cheese sandwich his wife had made, prompting his 12-year-old daughter to call the police.

On February 28, Athens-Clarke County Mayor Kelly Girtz held a press conference. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the press conference had been interrupted multiple times by protesters, including James DePaola.

- Law-enforcement officers did not remove anybody from the room while Girtz spoke, but police asked Athens resident James Depaola several times to wait his turn to speak.

"We the people are tired of this lawlessness," Depaola told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution after the press conference ended. "We are being put last. "[/QUOTE]Now, you just KNOW that numbskull Winger is a Charter Member of Elvis and MDS1's Women-Haters Club! LOL.

Yep. More Repub-Winger phony outrage planted in the otherwise empty skulls of their base since it is impossible for Repubs to point to one now revered positive legislative result or benefit to the American People that they ever proposed, fought for and passed when they occupied the White House and had the Majority in the House and the Senate.

Not one.

Right up there with Repub-Wingers' continuing rant that Obama-Biden's historic economic recovery from GW Bush's historic Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction wasn't "fast enough" compared to the Dems' other previous Great Recoveries from previous Great Repub Depressions / Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction, Obama's beige suit, Biden's historic recovery from the most recent "Once in 100 Years" Repub Disaster under Trump not managing to pull us out of that Great Repub Global Supply-Chain Collapse with zero inflation or the cost of gas going up and on and on and on.

[B]Immigration is 'taking pressure off' the job market and economy, expert says.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/02/immigration-taking-pressure-off-the-job-market-us-economy-expert.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]
-Why immigration is a net benefit for the economy .

-Immigration has helped put a lid on inflation.

No evidence immigrants are taking American jobs.[/b].....
Immigrants also launch new businesses at far higher rates than the overall U.S. population, according to research published in 2020.

The study authored by researchers from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, University of Pennsylvania, Northwestern University and the U.S. Census Bureau found immigrants in the U.S. workforce to be substantial job creators with an 80% higher entrance rate into entrepreneurship compared with native-born individuals. It examined data on more than 1 million firms founded between 2005 and 2010 that survived for at least five years.

"Overall, the findings suggest that immigrants appear to create jobs (expand labor demand) more than they take jobs (expand labor supply) in the U.S. economy, the study said.[/QUOTE][B]Biden is trying to fix Trumps broken immigration system.
2/29/2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4497637-biden-is-trying-to-fix-trumps-broken-immigration-system/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Both President Biden and former President Trump are visiting the U.S.-Mexico border today, where voters will hear dueling messages about what each believes the other one has done or failed to do. As such, it is important to debunk the gargantuan myth of how successful Trump was on the issue of border security and controlling illegal immigration.

Trump was not successful. In fact, he made the issue much worse, decimating the legal immigration system while failing to deter illegal migration.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Joe.

Seriously. Was there anything related to the economy, jobs creation, national security, immigration, border control or his sworn duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America that Donald J. Trump did not totally fuck up to spectacularly historic disastrous results?

"Oh, God. Here we go again. A hypocrite who is leaving the USA to get laid telling me how great our country is.

This from a guy who wanted rights tossed in the trash can with Covid. Did you forget this already Paulie?

The reason you are able to go to Colombia now is because people like me called out the government on their Covid bullshit, did our research, and did all we could to ignore them. We convinced enough people they were lying and just when the majority of Americans were seeing through the scam, the government, instead of admitting it, came up with the new crisis de jour, Ukraine. And you have fallen hook, line, and sinker for that scam too.

The USA government was a bigger threat to my freedoms with Covid than Covid was. We printed up $11 trillion for Covid. For what? Now hundreds of billions for Ukraine? For what? Meanwhile, I fly from Fort Lauderdale, a shithole of an airport, to the Bogota airport, which is beautiful. Is it too much to ask that my tax dollars go to infrastructure versus the police / deep state, MIC, and for a virus that was as potent as the flu in most people?

The USA is the best country in the world in which to make a living. For the most people, the American people are compassionate and kind unless they have government or attorneys making them go to war with each other.

You paid American women to have sex and broke the law. You going to lie about that like Tooms too? Are you going to pat yourself on the back and claim to be a law abiding citizen? OMG.

And you make it out like it is me. How many people are going to ignore all the deep state warnings and all the prosecutors and vote for him?

I have an idea. If you do not like Trump as president, why don't you leave?

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2024/02/26/russia-russia-forever-an-anatomy-of-a-left-wing-obsession/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897981]LOL. Nothing better than hearing a rabid Trumper Winger rant about how HIS Trump's Pandemic Closures were even worse for him than HIS Trump's Pandemic Covid was and how American tax dollars should be spent improving Infrastructure after 4 solid years of Classic Do Nothing Repub Trump assuring us his Infrastructure Week plans were coming "in about two weeks" when only Dem Joe Biden proposed, fought for and passed a historic Infrastructure DECADE on a bi-partisan basis!

LOL. Really. Just perfect.

BTW, have you found the section of the Thai Criminal / Penal Code that specifies that consenting adults exchanging money for sex is illegal yet? I can save you the trouble so you too can continue to be a Do Nothing Repub; there isn't one.

BTW Part 2, I hope you enjoy that historic Dem Joe Biden Infrastructure DECADE over there in the USA funded by MY taxe dollars (your beloved Trump assured us he is too "smart" to pay taxes) and facilitated entirely by MY votes for Joe Biden and the Dems.

Again, you're welcome.[/QUOTE]Oh, thank you. Do you have any explanation for this post?

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/politics/bidens-disapproval-rating-soars-to-59-percent-trumps-lead-biggest-yet/[/URL]

Or for this video?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODKUBzMnfw[/URL]

If it is anything outside of Republicans are stupid and Democrats are great, which is what you have posted nonstop for years, you do not need to respond.

Congrats on the S&P 500 call. At least you were right about one thing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2898180]Oh, thank you. Do you have any explanation for this post?

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/politics/bidens-disapproval-rating-soars-to-59-percent-trumps-lead-biggest-yet/[/URL]

Or for this video?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODKUBzMnfw[/URL]

If it is anything outside of Republicans are stupid and Democrats are great, which is what you have posted nonstop for years, you do not need to respond.

Congrats on the S&P 500 call. At least you were right about one thing.[/QUOTE]- At this point the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP polling Consensus has Trump and Biden in a statistical tie, Trump squeaking out approximately half a typical +/- MoE over Biden.

- It appears the polls are oversampling Hardline Trump Cult voters in the "Independent" demo. They might try to pass themselves off as such out of understandable embarrassment over admitting to anyone that they are indeed Repubs. But that doesn't mean they get to vote twice, once as a Repub and once as a fake Independent, despite Trump's instructions for them to vote twice in 2020. That is likely the answer to the "mystery" of Biden's Party, behind in the polls most of the time, also mostly creaming Repubs in actual regular and special elections in 2018,2919, 2020,2021, Red Tsunami 2022,2023 and so far in 2024.

-At this point in the presidential election year most poll respondents are not really paying much attention to the "campaigns", whatever the hell Trump is running on. For example, only about 5-15% of even Hardcore Repub Cult voters had been guessing Trump would probably be the Repub Nominee. This during the time when it was all over the news that he was beating every other Repub candidate's ass by 40% or more! How out of the loop could poll respondents be? Turns out pretty damn far.

- Mainstream Media has been giving Trump a pass on his policies and stewardship creating Trump's Pandemic ever since January-March 2020 when it was inarguably reported in Real News sources that he removed all the "Early Warning" Pandemic Prevention teams from those Chinese labs by September 2019, months before the first evidence of Covid cases emerged in those labs and while even he knew just a 2 month heads up would have been enough to avert all the trouble. Easily.

That allows for all the numbskull Repubs to blather on about how Trump's policies and stewardship were so great, produced a "great economy" (actually, through 2019 his economy would have ranked #7 among the 11 previous presidents' economies and that is if you don't factor in the TRILLIONS he added to the deficit to buy that below average economy) and come IP with idiotic questions like, "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago"? In 2020! LOL.

Uh, yeah, ill-informed.

I also think there is an American tendency to root for the underdog. But not necessarily to vote for one and invite him back to fuck up royally at every turn again. So some of those poll responses, maybe only a few percentage points for Trump, are on the order of "Atta boy. I like your spunk! 4 Felony charges and 91 counts! Chin up. Here, I'll toss you a bone. Sure, I'd vote for you over the greatest jobs creating, wage-increasing, global democracy-strengthening, economic recovery-producing, inflation-reducing, stock market and 401 K / IRA / Retirement Fund-improving President in History. LOL. Sure, sure, I really really really mean it. " LOL.

Among other things.

Bear in mind, there is no counterpart to this behavior, slurred speech, incoherence, repeated confusion over names of election opponents, the embarrassing baby-talk and whining, the gobbledygook blithering, the astonishing level and number of lies, etc with Joe Biden. Ever.

Nor is there a shred of evidence to suggest there will be for the next decade or more.

[B]Trump Dementia: 'You Know Argentina, Great Guy. He Loves Trump.'
Morning Joe runs a supercut of Trump speech clips, and it's painful to watch.[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/03/trump-dementia-you-know-argentina-great[/URL]

Then the following happened, in Classic Know Nothing and Do Nothing Repub fashion. Or is it simply Trump's serious dementia, or both?

[B]Trump takes credit for legislation signed by Obama.[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/n2WpSxJCoEQ?si=qt8QyL6TUSrNLWOk[/URL]

Yeah, that is the exact same President Obama that Trump has spent months reminding us he beat in 2020 and is running against today.

Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy might be intrinsically incapable of figuring out a side on any issue to settle on.

But as a loyal Classic Repub Trump-lover and Trump-supporter, she is doing a fantastic job of protecting their Party's lord and savior by keeping the Trump nomination process going and going and going so as not to put a final nail in it and force a Repub Nominee Trump to deal with serious questions on any issue of importance or, God forbid, have to go one on one against Joe Biden in a debate where it is certain Trump will not be able to understand a meaningful question from an unbiased moderator any more than he ever did or ever could understand the issues raised to his face by any other world leader he ever met or ever would meet.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2897786]No need to contrast the difference between Do Nothing, Open Borders-Loving Trump vs Real POTUS Joe Biden who has actually agreed to sign the bill full of conditions Repubs claimed to want but flip-flopped and rejected at Trump's behest.

The idiotic baby-talk and lies coming out of Trump's pie-hole vs Biden's perfectly lucid, adult, presidential demeanor and genuine invitation (again) to Repubs in Congress to get off their Do Nothing, Deadbeat Butts and give him the legislation to solve the problem since Executive Orders are only temporary at best and any of his on this issue are sure to be held up by Repub legislators and judges, should tell you everything you need to know about which candidate is capable of actually solving it.

And if that isn't enough, please note that Trump and his fellow Repubs have been lying about the "Migrant Crime Wave" inside and outside of the border towns and sanctuary cites from the beginning, all through the middle and right up until now.

From 2017:

[B]No Evidence Sanctuary Cities Breed Crime[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/no-evidence-sanctuary-cities-breed-crime/[/URL]

From today:

[B]Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data.
An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trumps-claims-migrant-crime-wave-are-not-supported-national-data-rcna140896[/URL]

Oh, and here is a "Thanks, Joe" bonus report:

[B]Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. [u]An expert blames a familiar culprit[/u] for the mistaken impression.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, Americans are mistaken! To further illustrate your point.

And the hypocrisy continues and "foot-in-mouth" disease is rampant with Repubs
[URL]https://www.salon.com/2023/07/26/fact-checker-calls-out-falsehoods-in-tommy-tubervilles-tales-about-his-in-world-ii/[/URL]

Since Sen. Tuberville (R-AL), being one of the most feckless Repub Senators, wanted to attack President Joe Biden, for a recent trip to NY and tweeted this:[LIST] Tweets: "Hope Joe Biden enjoyed going out for ice cream in NYC while the rest of the city is afraid of crime and migrants." Feb 27th, 2024.[/LIST]And because Sen.Tommy Tuberville, doesn't known his head from his ass, before opening his mouth, he tried to use an old fav. from the Repub playbook, that being blue states are all just "crime ridden" places and have the "worst crime", while of course ignoring the fact that the state he hails from, [b]Alabama is 3x worse per capita than NY.[/b]

Since Sen. Tuberville, doesn't known his head from his ass, naturally he was fact checked on his tweet. As it turns out, while of course ignoring the fact that the state he hails from is 3x worse per capita than NY:
[LIST]Fact Check on NY v AL on crime:
-NY state is homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000
-Alabama state "coach" Tuberville, represents, has a homicide rate of 15.9, the third highest in the nation.
-[b]Florida state[/b] where "coach" Tuberviile [b]actually resides/lives[/b] also has a significantly higher homicide rate (7.4) than NY.[/LIST][b]Reporter Gives Tuberville A Brutal Fact Check About [u]How Horrible His State Of Alabama Is:[/u][/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D49im5nOmXc[/URL]

Repubs are just simply blind to their own continuous hypocrisy and the harm they do spreading such lies. It is just astounding!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2898013][b]Fox News guest decrying migrant crime previously arrested after getting violent over a grilled cheese sandwich he deemed too cheesy. 3/1/2024[/b]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/jesse-watters/fox-news-guest-decrying-migrant-crime-previously-arrested-after-getting-violent-over[/URL]

Now, you just KNOW that numbskull Winger is a Charter Member of Elvis and MDS1's Women-Haters Club! LOL. [/QUOTE] Was there ever a doubt? (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2898013]Yep. More Repub-Winger phony outrage planted in the otherwise empty skulls of their base since it is impossible for Repubs to point to one now revered positive legislative result or benefit to the American People that they ever proposed, fought for and passed when they occupied the White House and had the Majority in the House and the Senate.

[b]Not one.[/b] ...[/QUOTE] Not one, indeed!

However, the Incels/"He-Man Women Haters" Club, I see are back in the news AGAIN! The Dude (aka.James DePaola) with the violence over a "too cheesy sandwich", may yet be the strongest candidate for the [u]"Incels/He-Man Women Haters" of the year award?[/u] But consider this dude?

[b]Co-founder of Students for Trump charged with assaulting a woman with a firearm[/b]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2023/11/29/1215793840/ryan-fournier-students-for-trump-assault[/URL]

The Ryan Fournier, "Students for Trump" acolyte, caught pistol whipping his girlfriend. Yet another gullible cult "leader/founder" of another "Trump dystopian" group, found to be charged with a violent act, against women. Definitely "cheesy", but I'll let you decide which of the two stories is cheesier (...kkkk!)

[u]Charges Dropped:[/u]
"According to the court docket in North Carolina and a spokesperson for Students for Trump co-founder Ryan Fournier: [b]charges against him for allegedly assaulting his ex-gf[/b], including hitting her on head with pistol, have been voluntarily dropped." (Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...[i]"I'll more than pistol whip ya, if you DON'T drop the charges"[/i]).

It was unclear why the charges had been dropped. Fournier, now leads a group called Radical Alert, which claims to expose how radicals have "taken over American college campuses."

Okay charges were dropped by ex-gf, but you just [b]gotta love the pivot[/b] and [b]the rebranding[/b] to "Radical Alert"! (...kkkk!)

Classic MAGA Repubs or just Classic "cheesy" Repubs?

Attaboy Trump!

Showing his true colors and disdain for the presidential office, for America, and the American people, with his buffoonery and wild rhetoric that [B]"America SUCKS!"[/B] and [B]"America is a JOKE!",[/B] slurred campaign speech.

Good luck with that hate campaign and hate sloganism!


PS: Unless of course it's a dog whistle to "inspire" his supporters to get out of America?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899089][b] Trump's New Campaign Slogan..."America SUCKS!"[/b]
Attaboy Trump!

Showing his true colors and disdain for the presidential office, for America, and the American people, with his buffoonery and wild rhetoric that [B]"America SUCKS!"[/B] and [B]"America is a JOKE!",[/B] slurred campaign speech.

Good luck with that hate campaign and hate sloganism!


PS: Unless of course it's a dog whistle to "inspire" his supporters to get out of America?[/QUOTE]Mainstream Media would like us to falsely remember Reagan's 1984 "It's Morning Again in America" re-election Campaign pitch as a sales job to help us think wonderful things about America.

Nope.

It was only another Classic Know Nothing / Do Nothing Repub Deadbeat attempt to take credit for the reduction in Inflation and interest rates, a result for which Dem Jimmy Carter shouldered all the heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk back in late 1979, took hold as a trend by mid 1980, continued well into Reagan's first years in office and for which Ronnie Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with unless wearing cowboy hats and riding ponies at his California ranch had something to do with reducing Inflation:

[URL]https://youtu.be/pUMqic2IcWA?si=bMSMTjUad0WX_s_e[/URL]

At the same time, Mainstream Media would like us to forget Reagan's clear and unambiguous War Whoop against Evil American Democracy that so charmed and endeared America's domestic enemies and has inspired them to join and support Repub Icon Reagan's Repub Party ever since to attack and denigrate America as THEIR enemy too right up to this very day, choosing another Classic Repub lord and savior to lead the way.

Ronald Reagan, in his 1981 Inaugural. Address:

[URL]https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/inaugural-address-1981[/URL]

[QUOTE]"...government is not the solution to our problem; government IS the problem."[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, Reagan was not referring to some foreign dictatorship or monarchy. No, he was referring specifically to this government of, by and for the people, the United States of America, a constitutional federal republuc form of government that was established by our Founding Fathers precisely to solve problems for a freedom-loving complex society.

Yep, Great Repub Recession, Ten Consecutive Months of Whopping 10%+ Unemployment Rate in his 2nd and 3rd Year, Trade Arms For Hostages Felon Teflon Ronnie could just as well have highlighted his first Inagural Address with, [B]"America Sucks"![/B].

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899089]Attaboy Trump!

Showing his true colors and disdain for the presidential office, for America, and the American people, with his buffoonery and wild rhetoric that [B]"America SUCKS!"[/B] and [B]"America is a JOKE!",[/B] slurred campaign speech.[/QUOTE]Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt.

[QUOTE=Questner;2899127]Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt.[/QUOTE]No kidding, I just happened to watch a 1956/1957 Mike Wallace interview if Eleanor Roosevelt last night where she had no qualms about discussing ideas, minds and people in response to questions posed of her.

For example:

Of then current President Eisenhower; diplomatically, she said he was good at following orders and plans as a General but probably had less intellectual interest in a great variety of subjects than, say, Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill or her husband had.

Of Richard Nixon; she said he appears to be a very intelligent person with ability but would be the least attractive choice for POTUS, an outcome that would worry her because he seems not to have any strong convictions, something she opined was needed to deal effectively with a crisis.

She was obviously a good judge of people and was quite willing to, diplomatically, offer her opinions of them.

If she were still alive today and asked about Trump, Moscow Mitch, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz and virtually every other Classic Repub on the scene since Crooked Nixon's humiliating resignation her response would probably be to start vomiting and never stop for several days.

[QUOTE=Questner;2899127]Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt.[/QUOTE]
I suppose, if you like discussing people of little consequence? [b]Is Trump a person of little consequence to you? [/b]

So if you think talking about a 2x impeached, 4x indicted, insurrectionist and Repub fmr.president, who is now the Repub candidate for the 2024 US Election, isn't controversial and worthy of debating, when he says things like [b]"America SUCKS!"[/b] and [b]"America is a JOKE!"[/b], then perhaps you can explain to me, why spend multiple thousands of time in man hours and billions of dollars on coverage to pick a new president. Should we just hold a [i]rock-paper-scissors contest[/i] for the US presidency?

If your ideal candidate, is someone that loves to utter slurs that degrade and denigrates America, the very country in which he plans to hold office and that doesn't bother you as to the character of your president or for the vision (or lack thereof) that he has for America and Americans, then I guess Trump's your man.

Better yet, if I were to [b]take your quote and apply it to Trump[/b] (as the list of people he's insulted, defamed, besmirched and bad-mouthed, could wallpaper the White House 2x over), he has NO discernible CHARACTER, has NO VISION for America and NO PLANS ([u]unlike what Obama/Biden did for example with the [i]2016 AI Development Initiative Plans[/i],[/u] where today, the US is now the world leader in AI tech), or IDEAS with which to take the US to the next level. None! Unless you consider, "...drill baby, drill"?

So where exactly do you see Trump? Great, Average or Small minded?

I often like to use the quote: [i]"Great minds think alike and small/weak minds seldom differ"[/i]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899185]No kidding, I just happened to watch a 1956/1957 Mike Wallace interview if Eleanor Roosevelt last night where she had no qualms about discussing ideas, minds and people in response to questions posed of her.

For example:

Of then current President Eisenhower; diplomatically, she said he was good at following orders and plans as a General but probably had less intellectual interest in a great variety of subjects than, say, Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill or her husband had.

Of Richard Nixon; she said he appears to be a very intelligent person with ability but would be the least attractive choice for POTUS, an outcome that would worry her because he seems not to have any strong convictions, something she opined was needed to deal effectively with a crisis.

She was obviously a good judge of people and was quite willing to, diplomatically, offer her opinions of them. [/QUOTE]

Nice concise masterclass on Eleanor Roosevelt!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899185]If she were still alive today and asked about Trump, Moscow Mitch, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz and virtually every other Classic Repub on the scene since Crooked Nixon's humiliating resignation her response would probably be to start vomiting and never stop for several days.[/QUOTE] You had me at Trump and Moscow Mitch (...kkkk!)

First off, it is one thing to blame or credit a president with anything. Blaming Trump for the pandemic or giving Biden credit for going back to work after lockdowns ended is folly to me. You need to explain to me what said president did to affect the positive or negative change. Unlike the douches with their Republicans bad / Dems good diatribe, I can give Dems credit. Clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, and made the economy went boom. The irony is the Clintons have gone from populism to elitists IMO and that is why HRC lost.

The latest Democrat twist is to say there is not an issue with the border.

So is the border problem Biden's fault? To that, the facts show not just yes but hell yes.

The EO also revoked the following executive actions:

Executive Order 13767, issued on January 25,2017, which directed executive agencies to secure the southern border and prevent illegal immigration into the United States, and called for immediate construction of a wall along the southern border.

Proclamation 9880, issued on May 8, 2019, which deemed immigrants who entered the United States without inspection ineligible for asylum.

Presidential Memorandum of April 29,2019, which prevented certain asylum seekers from pursuing any other form of immigration relief, required adjudication of asylum cases within 180 days of filing, imposed an application fee for asylum claims, and barred asylum seekers who entered the United States without inspection from receiving work authorization while their applications were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 6, 2018, which prevented DHS from releasing immigrants from detention while their immigration cases were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 4, 2018, which deployed the National Guard to secure the southwest border.

So yeah, Biden owns the border mess.

Seeing as how Democratic douches love attacking sources, the guy making this video is very pro-Ukraine. He has a Ukrainian wife and made videos condemning Putin. He is part of the group that is the new media because at this point, the mainstream is so bad that you know what they are going to say before they say it.

For me, the video was confirmation that the people ending up on the border seeking asylum are from all over the world and are not Mexican. It is an organized effort to skirt American law that benefits Mexican drug cartels. RFK Jr. Had a video showing the same thing.

If you ever want to know what Trump derangement syndrome is, you cannot get it any better than with the wall. Trump used tax payer dollars to buy supplies to build the wall. The Biden administration came in and literally said we are not going to use any of the materials that the Trump administration bought, and those supplies are sitting there to this day. Yes, the Biden administration is that fucking petty and that stupid. This video shows said supplies.

What has not been shown is illegal immigrants coming in wearing Biden t-shirts, but I am sure I will see one showing that.

Between this and Merrick Garland's latest speech condemning the use of voter ID laws shows the great criminal enterprise Biden is undertaking. He is literally allowing illegals to come into the USA to vote for him and paying them off with USA tax dollars. It is not even subtle.

Like you see with the Democratic douches here, they do not care if it is only Americans voting in the election. All they care about is if their side wins.

In 2020, if I were a judge, I would be skeptical of having to step in and possibly overturn an election, but the Dems have made it easy now with the complete fucking idiocy that went on in Colorado and Maine where Trump was tried to be taken off the ballot. And we have seen Dems weaponize the justice system to go after Trump and all these cases that just happen to materialize right before the election? At least in 2020 if there was massive cheating, it was hidden well enough that judges could not act. Now it is out in the open, and they are going to have to act if there are issues in the election. Well, at this point, we know there will be horrific cheating. It is just how well can it be hidden.

Quite frankly, with Biden mouthing off to the Supreme Court last night and openly bragging about and defying them with student loan forgiveness, I do not think judges will sit on the sidelines this time.

Dems were given a 9 to 0 loss the last time they tried to cheat and win an election without having it decided by voters.

So here is the video on the border that some here have suggested is not a problem: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYAYgbf5Uc[/URL].

It is very much worth watching.

With Trump, about to receive classified documents again, it is obvious to Americans, that US national security, is at risk and in peril, once again.

If for a moment, we consider his past record with classified information, is there really any doubts, he already has plans to hawk said classified information/documents, to the Russians, Saudi Arabia and/or North Koreans...etc, to pay for his half-a-billion (plus and counting) in civil lawsuits, w/r to several defamation cases and running a corrupt and fraudulent business in the state of NY?

So it could be argued, Americans should be more worried about Trump putting [b]US national security[/b] at risk and in danger, more so than the [b]border security[/b] issue, that is more than solvable, especially given the bi-partisan bill, that just passed by the US Senate. Don't forget is was [u]Trump who put the kibosh on the border bill[/u] in the House, for petty politics and of course, 'cause he'd have nothing to campaign on.

Therefore, when you take into account, what is the [b]"constant variable",[/b] with both these problematic equational political issues, plaguing America, the answer is unequivocally...Trump!

As simply as it sounds, take out this malignant variable and eh Voil!...Americans solve both problems, with one voting strike. Problems SOLVED!

PS: Again, let's not overlook some of the [b]benefits to immigration[/b], as recently noted here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2898096&viewfull=1#post2898096[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899690]With Trump, about to receive classified documents again, it is obvious to Americans, that US national security, is at risk and in peril, once again.

If for a moment, we consider his past record with classified information, is there really any doubts, he already has plans to hawk said classified information/documents, to the Russians, Saudi Arabia and/or North Koreans...etc, to pay for his half-a-billion (plus and counting) in civil lawsuits, w/r to several defamation cases and running a corrupt and fraudulent business in the state of NY?

So it could be argued, Americans should be more worried about Trump putting [b]US national security[/b] at risk and in danger, more so than the [b]border security[/b] issue, that is more than solvable, especially given the bi-partisan bill, that just passed by the US Senate. Don't forget is was [u]Trump who put the kibosh on the border bill[/u] in the House, for petty politics and of course, 'cause he'd have nothing to campaign on.

Therefore, when you take into account, what is the [b]"constant variable",[/b] with both these problematic equational political issues, plaguing America, the answer is unequivocally...Trump!

As simply as it sounds, take out this malignant variable and eh Voil!...Americans solve both problems, with one voting strike. Problems SOLVED!

PS: Again, let's not overlook some of the [b]benefits to immigration[/b], as recently noted here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2898096&viewfull=1#post2898096[/URL][/QUOTE]The best move on behalf of USA National Security is to feed Trump strategically-crafted disinformation disguised as "real" classified information.

Trump acting on it himself or peddling such disinformation to America's enemies and adversaries might be the only way for Trump to finally accomplish something of a net positive for America in his entire adult life, however inadvertent and unintentional it might be.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899562]I suppose, if you like discussing people of little consequence? [b]Is Trump a person of little consequence to you? [/b]

So if you think talking about a 2x impeached, 4x indicted, insurrectionist and Repub fmr.president, who is now the Repub candidate for the 2024 US Election, isn't controversial and worthy of debating, when he says things like [b]"America SUCKS!"[/b] and [b]"America is a JOKE!"[/b], then perhaps you can explain to me, why spend multiple thousands of time in man hours and billions of dollars on coverage to pick a new president. Should we just hold a [i]rock-paper-scissors contest[/i] for the US presidency?

If your ideal candidate, is someone that loves to utter slurs that degrade and denigrates America, the very country in which he plans to hold office and that doesn't bother you as to the character of your president or for the vision (or lack thereof) that he has for America and Americans, then I guess Trump's your man.

Better yet, if I were to [b]take your quote and apply it to Trump[/b] (as the list of people he's insulted, defamed, besmirched and bad-mouthed, could wallpaper the White House 2x over), he has NO discernible CHARACTER, has NO VISION for America and NO PLANS ([u]unlike what Obama/Biden did for example with the [i]2016 AI Development Initiative Plans[/i],[/u] where today, the US is now the world leader in AI tech), or IDEAS with which to take the US to the next level. None! Unless you consider, "...drill baby, drill"?

So where exactly do you see Trump? Great, Average or Small minded?

I often like to use the quote: [i]"Great minds think alike and small/weak minds seldom differ"[/i][/QUOTE]I know that people get a flu in a group but loose their marbles alone.

What's about the bold text and capitals?

It's very simple for the last couple of years.

Is America more prosperous? More peaceful? More stable? How confident is the average American in his economic future? Has the legal system become more just? How much is borrowed against the well-being of the future generation? Is it sustainable? Etc.

[URL]https://youtu.be/bPd55rmNgzk?si=AEdRJNAiPHtzQb2c[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2899603]First off, it is one thing to blame or credit a president with anything. Blaming Trump for the pandemic or giving Biden credit for going back to work after lockdowns ended is folly to me. You need to explain to me what said president did to affect the positive or negative change. Unlike the douches with their Republicans bad / Dems good diatribe, I can give Dems credit. Clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, and made the economy went boom. The irony is the Clintons have gone from populism to elitists IMO and that is why HRC lost.

The latest Democrat twist is to say there is not an issue with the border.

So is the border problem Biden's fault? To that, the facts show not just yes but hell yes.

The EO also revoked the following executive actions:

Executive Order 13767, issued on January 25,2017, which directed executive agencies to secure the southern border and prevent illegal immigration into the United States, and called for immediate construction of a wall along the southern border.

Proclamation 9880, issued on May 8, 2019, which deemed immigrants who entered the United States without inspection ineligible for asylum.

Presidential Memorandum of April 29,2019, which prevented certain asylum seekers from pursuing any other form of immigration relief, required adjudication of asylum cases within 180 days of filing, imposed an application fee for asylum claims, and barred asylum seekers who entered the United States without inspection from receiving work authorization while their applications were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 6, 2018, which prevented DHS from releasing immigrants from detention while their immigration cases were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 4, 2018, which deployed the National Guard to secure the southwest border.

So yeah, Biden owns the border mess.

Seeing as how Democratic douches love attacking sources, the guy making this video is very pro-Ukraine. He has a Ukrainian wife and made videos condemning Putin. He is part of the group that is the new media because at this point, the mainstream is so bad that you know what they are going to say before they say it.

For me, the video was confirmation that the people ending up on the border seeking asylum are from all over the world and are not Mexican. It is an organized effort to skirt American law that benefits Mexican drug cartels. RFK Jr. Had a video showing the same thing.

If you ever want to know what Trump derangement syndrome is, you cannot get it any better than with the wall. Trump used tax payer dollars to buy supplies to build the wall. The Biden administration came in and literally said we are not going to use any of the materials that the Trump administration bought, and those supplies are sitting there to this day. Yes, the Biden administration is that fucking petty and that stupid. This video shows said supplies.

What has not been shown is illegal immigrants coming in wearing Biden t-shirts, but I am sure I will see one showing that.

Between this and Merrick Garland's latest speech condemning the use of voter ID laws shows the great criminal enterprise Biden is undertaking. He is literally allowing illegals to come into the USA to vote for him and paying them off with USA tax dollars. It is not even subtle.

Like you see with the Democratic douches here, they do not care if it is only Americans voting in the election. All they care about is if their side wins.

In 2020, if I were a judge, I would be skeptical of having to step in and possibly overturn an election, but the Dems have made it easy now with the complete fucking idiocy that went on in Colorado and Maine where Trump was tried to be taken off the ballot. And we have seen Dems weaponize the justice system to go after Trump and all these cases that just happen to materialize right before the election? At least in 2020 if there was massive cheating, it was hidden well enough that judges could not act. Now it is out in the open, and they are going to have to act if there are issues in the election. Well, at this point, we know there will be horrific cheating. It is just how well can it be hidden.

Quite frankly, with Biden mouthing off to the Supreme Court last night and openly bragging about and defying them with student loan forgiveness, I do not think judges will sit on the sidelines this time.

Dems were given a 9 to 0 loss the last time they tried to cheat and win an election without having it decided by voters.

So here is the video on the border that some here have suggested is not a problem: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYAYgbf5Uc[/URL].

It is very much worth watching.[/QUOTE]Who are the Dems asserting there is no issue with the border?

After Obama-Biden handed Trump the lowest rate of illegal crossings in 50 years, then Trump's policies and stewardship twice spiked up those illegal crossings to near record highs, then Trump decimated the legal Immigration system just as he was getting kicked out of office, which created the years long delays in investigating and processing asylum-seekers before turning back and deporting the fakers as is required by the USA Constitution, one of the first moves Biden made when he took over in the midst of still another "Once in 100 Years" Repub Disaster that only happens under Repubs and during virtually every Repub Presidency, was to propose and submit a plan for comprehensive Immigration Reform.

It never got an iota of interest from enough Congressional Repubs to even consider it much less pass it with the required 60 seats in the Senate.

So then the fully bipartisan-negotiated Border Bill recently submitted for Pink Tinkle House approval was killed by Trump when he ordered them to leave the borders Open and a Mess now and into the future, possibly forever, so he can use the issue to get back into the WH and again find a "Once in 100% Years" Catastrophic Repub Disaster to embrace, exacerbate and exploit to once again Crash the Economy and Wipe Out Millons upon Millions of Jobs, Supply-Chains, whatever.

Last night, when Biden was listing all the supposed Repub Border Control Wishes contained in the bill that Trump killed, the camera cut to the Ruby Red Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Oklahoma who was the top Ruby Red Repub negotiator of the bill, Lankford, to catch him smiling sardonically and mouthing the words, ,"That's true. ".

The Ruby Red Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Alabama who delivered the typically lie-filled GOP response to Biden's terrific SOTU Address, where she devoted a huge percentage of her weepy rant to her Party's Preferred Open Border Mess was also on the GOP negotiation team for that bill that Trump killed by ordering the Pink Tinkle Repub House Majority to reject it.

Still confused about which side wants to clean up Trump's Open Borders Mess and which side only wants to keep it going and complain about it?

Obviously, Biden and the Dems are the only ones taking border control seriously.

Trump's Wall? LOL. The Trump / GW Bush of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, had a Wall, relied on it and slept soundly next to it. How did that work out for Israel's Border Control and National Security?

Trump is going to need an even bigger Wall to hide behind in order to dodge appearing in public on a debate stage vs Joe Biden as he hid and dodged appearing on a debate stage even vs his definition of a "Birdbrain" GOP opponent.

President Biden's delivered a SOTU speech that was just brilliant and give the American people a triumphant acknowledgement of his resolute stewardship, with eyes looking forward (not backwards, like his predecessor) and with more success to come for America.

Highlights:

[QUOTE]"...when you get to be my age, certain things become clear. I know the American story. Again, again and again, I've seen the contest between competing forces in the battle for the soul of Out Nation. Between those who want to pull America back to the past and who want to pull America into the future. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]My lifetime as taught me to embrace freedom and democracy, a future based on core values, that defined America. Honesty, dignity, decency, equality...to RESPECT EVERYONE. to give everyone a fair shot, to give hate no safe harbor. Now some other people my age, they see it different. An American story of resentment, revenge and retribution...that's NOT ME!" [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]"...for years I've heard many of my Repubs and Dems friends say that China is on the Rise and America is falling behind. They've got it backwards! I've been saying it for over 4 years, even when I wasn't president. America is rising, we have the best economy in the world...in a thousand cities and towns, the American people are writing the GREATEST COMEBACK STORY NEVER TOLD! {...standing ovation and applause...}"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]"...my predecessor, a former president...bowing down to a Russian leader. I think it's outrageous, dangerous and unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...in my career, I've be told I was too young, ....now I'm being told I'm too old (chuckles and laughs from Congress) ...Whether young or old, Ive always known what endures. Our North Star"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...it's not about how old you are, [u]it's about how old your IDEAS are."[/u][/QUOTE]
In another dig at Trump and Repubs looking down in shame over Jan 6th:
[QUOTE]"This is a moment to speak the truth and bury the lies... And here's the simplest truth. [b]You can't love your country [u]only[/u] when you win..."[/b][/QUOTE]


Now that's how you talk to the US Congress, the US House, the press and the more than 32 million American people (and millions more around the world), watching the [b]14th Best President in US History,[/b] deliver an impeccable, intelligible, meaningful yet balanced with a great outlook for American's future, all wrapped in a brilliant 2024 SOTU speech.

Biden knocked the ball, out of the park! Well done President Joe Biden, on another triumph!

[b]PS:[/b] I gotta say, it is once again refreshing to hear and see, a President who isn't afraid to poke fun at himself, or to counter what other say about him, with a sharp wit and levity. Yes refreshing indeed!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899736]Who are the Dems asserting there is no issue with the border?[/QUOTE]You for one.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899736]Still confused about which side wants to clean up Trump's Open Borders Mess and which side only wants to keep it going and complain about it?

Obviously, Biden and the Dems are the only ones taking border control seriously.[/QUOTE]And why would anyone listen to you, a partisan hack in Thailand, over a sheriff in Yuma or what they see in the video? Watch the video Tooms. You might learn something.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899690]Don't forget is was [u]Trump who put the kibosh on the border bill[/u] in the House, for petty politics and of course, 'cause he'd have nothing to campaign on.

Therefore, when you take into account, what is the [b]"constant variable",[/b] with both these problematic equational political issues, plaguing America, the answer is unequivocally...Trump!

As simply as it sounds, take out this malignant variable and eh Voil!...Americans solve both problems, with one voting strike. Problems SOLVED!
[/QUOTE]I am going to give you the same question I asked Tooms. Why would anyone listen to you some partisan hack living in another country who think Trump is responsible for everything bad in the world over a sheriff living in Yuma County or their own eyes?

You douches blather on about rule of law. How about shoplifting in San Francisco? That is fine with you douches. How about a rich Indian family who flies into Mexicali, pays the drug cartels thousands, crosses the border illegally and then calls 911 for an emergency to come pick them up? Oh yeah, fuck that rule of law. Fuck the taxpayers who are paying for 911 services. We are looking at potential future Democratic voters. That and only that as we have seen is more important than any so called law.

I don't know WTF you are talking about with some border bill. There were executive orders in place that had this mess under control and as I showed, Biden rescinded them like on day one of his presidency.

As I suggested, this may be a plot to rig the election. That is actually the better of the two outcomes. The other, and you can see it with the fucking materials in place to build the wall, is to do the exact opposite of what Trump did and think that is smart.

At this point, you douches have painted yourself into a corner. If you put the executive orders back in place, you admit Trump was right, and you were wrong. If you don't, the border stays open and you look like shit. You also have made yourself look like idiots for caring more about the borders of Ukraine than our own.

So all you can do is lie. Congress this and Congress that. And now that these illegals are going everywhere in the country, it is not just those living near the border that have issues. You got Dems like the ones in New York crying uncle.

Watch the fucking video and say something intelligent other than the issue is Trump.

No doubt about it; after Trump's economic and national security policies, stewardship and lies converted a likely easily manageable endemic confined to one region in China into the historic deadly, worldwide economy Crashing, Supply-Chain collapsing, millions upon millions of jobs-destroying, Hyper Inflation-triggering Pandemic it became, Joe Biden's Great Dem Recovery has produced the Strongest Economy in the World.

According to Ultra Winger Fux News Economic Expert, Stephen Moore, in agreement with Joe Biden himself:

[B]Stephen Moore Agrees With Biden, US Economy Best In The World[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/03/stephen-moore-agrees-pres-biden-us-economy[/URL]

[QUOTE]"One thing President Biden said that was true," Stephen Moore said. "It is true that the United States today have the strongest economy. There's no question about it if you look at what's happening in Europe today, Germany, France, Japan and China they are not growing..."

After claiming most of the world's economies are suffering, he finished with this.

"That's something that's important to cheer," said Moore.

The facts, figures, and numbers are so strong that even these idiots can't deny that the US economy is roaring under President Biden.[/QUOTE]Also, considering Trump's "best" first 3 years only ranked #7 out of the recent 11 presidents' economies (means it now ranks #8 among the recent 12), he kept America's military actively involved in a War throughout his entire presidency while we are no longer actively involved in any War anywhere and haven't been for 3 years, that the violent crime rates are now at decades' lows and Constitutional Oath-Breaking Insurrectionists like Donald Trump as well as his violent, cop-killing cult followers have finally been indicted for their crimes, by every important metric and definition, America is today inarguably more prosperous, more peaceful, more stable, the legal system far more just and, therefore, all Americans have experienced a far better result, are much, much better off and are in store for a much better future today than they experienced and faced five years ago, six years ago and seven years ago.

Unless a "Once in 100 Years Disaster" Repub is given control of the levers again and plunges us into another one of the Repub Party's patented Great Repub Recession / Depression and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction, that is.

There are other opinions on the 'fiery' speech:

[URL]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/8/dr-carole-lieberman-forensic-psychiatrist-sees-sig/[/URL]

Where's Elder Justice Initiative?

[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]I know that people get a flu in a group but loose their marbles alone.[/QUOTE]
Uhh?

[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]What's about the bold text and capitals?[/QUOTE] Have you NEVER before seen newsprint, articles, magazines, poetry and/or books, that have [b]words[/b] or [b]sentences[/b] in [b]bold[/b] or CAPITALIZATION? Or [i]italics[/i]? Or when words are [u]underlined?[/u]

It is a very common thing writers, penmen, poets, wordsmiths columnists and authors will do for [u]any number of [b]emphatic[/b] stylistic reasons.[/u]

[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]It's very simple for the last couple of years.

Is America more prosperous? More peaceful? More stable? How confident is the average American in his economic future? Has the legal system become more just? How much is borrowed against the well-being of the future generation? Is it sustainable? Etc.

[URL]https://youtu.be/bPd55rmNgzk?si=AEdRJNAiPHtzQb2c[/URL][/QUOTE]Lot of good questions here, with a wide range of topics, I would love to debate. But I'm afraid I didn't catch the video and what it meant in relation, w/r to each your questions.

Could you explain each of your points of view w/r to the questions your asking? Yes, please state your cases!

BTW, the simple answer to all of your questions could easily be "YES", "YES", "Very", "Depends", "Depends", "Probably", but that's not exactly a debate...now is it?

It turns out that new Ruby Red MAGA Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Alabama who gave that weepy, whiny, GOP response to Dem Joe Biden's terrific SOTU Address is a flat out LIAR.

Shocking, I know.

That story she told in detail about some young girl being repeatedly gang raped in the USA by drug runners let in by evil Joe Biden that she has repeatedly told and told again with relish in her internationally televised GOP response? Yeah, it happened in Mevico while Ruby Red Repub GW Bush was so-called president.

Joe Biden was not the President at that time. He wasn't even Vice President at that time.

[B]Katie Britt Used Decades-Old Example of Rapes in Mexico as Republican Attack on Biden Border Policy.[/B]

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2024-03-09/republican-senator-used-decades-old-example-of-rapes-in-mexico-to-attack-biden-border-policies[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Republican senator who gave the partys response to President Joe Bidens State of the Union address used a harrowing account of a young womans sexual abuse to attack his border policies, but the rapes did not happen in the U.S. or during the Biden administration.

First-term Sen. Katie Britt of Alabama in the GOP response criticized current immigration policies, describing how she had met a woman at the U.S.-Mexico border who told of being raped thousands of times in a sex trafficking operation run by cartels, starting at age 12.

"We wouldnt be OK with this happening in a third-world country. This is the United States of America, and its past time we start acting like it," Britt said in the Thursday night speech televised from her home in Alabama. President Bidens border crisis is a disgrace." [/QUOTE]I am sure Fux News will insist she appear on one of their top-rated prime time lie-fests to apologize to the World, America and specifically Joe Biden for repeating that favorite Ruby Red MAGA Lie in her GOP response the other night. Lolol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899715]The best move on behalf of USA National Security is to feed Trump [b]strategically-crafted disinformation disguised as "real" classified information.[/b]

Trump acting on it himself or peddling such disinformation to America's enemies and adversaries might be the only way for Trump to finally accomplish something of a net positive for America in his entire adult life, however inadvertent and unintentional it might be.[/QUOTE]Bravo...I like your thinking!

I need to remind myself, to fake a headache, if you ever were to offer me a game of chess...kkkk!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2899886]You for one.

And why would anyone listen to you, a partisan hack in Thailand, over a sheriff in Yuma or what they see in the video? Watch the video Tooms. You might learn something.[/QUOTE]Because the facts, data and verifiable record of results are on Joe Biden's and my side of the argument and not on yours and Trump's. That's why.

[QUOTE=Questner;2899990]There are other opinions on the 'fiery' speech:

[URL]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/8/dr-carole-lieberman-forensic-psychiatrist-sees-sig/[/URL]

Where's Elder Justice Initiative?[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm guessing most of the article titles that nobody heard of and had absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of Trump's Fed Appointee Powell's hearing rattled off by numbskull Repub Senator Kennedy in your previous post link originated at The Washington Times or similar too, right?

So is our conclusion supposed to be that even a drugged up, senile, decrepit, mentally incapacitated old Dem is more lucid, better informed, more truthful, more competent, capable, coherent and certainly more effective in producing positive results for America than any Repub potus in the past 100 years or more and especially way, way more than the most popular and beloved (among Repubs) Repub candidate opposing him today?

Well, if just a few bucks worth of that miracle drug Biden supposedly was given also contributed to his producing one of the greatest and strongest American economies in history while $2+ Trillion American tax dollars upfront and an estimated $1. 5 Trillion added to the deficit every 10 years for Trump's one and only economic "stimulus" legislation that produced at least a million fewer jobs with it than without it and, at that, still only managed to place his 3 "best" years prior to Trump's Pandemic at #8 out of the 12 most recent presidents' economies, I say go ahead and mix those tablets into Joe's ice cream scoops every now and then.

Well, I perceive bold text and capitalization both as shouting which is rude and patronizing to a reader, as if any reader can't follow or comprehend the whole text of the article.

[URL]https://www.heritage.org/press/oversight-project-sues-department-justice-records-used-hur-report[/URL]

The President's "aliases include Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and JRB Ware" Is it?

[URL]https://spectator.org/grumpy-old-man-mumbles-state-of-the-union/[/URL] No comments here.

[URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/bidens-state-of-the-union-was-a-declaration-of-war/[/URL]

I would say that the President has deep personal conflict of interest with respect to Ukraine and this conflict of interest costs everyone dearly.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2899995]Uhh?

Have you NEVER before seen newsprint, articles, magazines, poetry and/or books, that have [b]words[/b] or [b]sentences[/b] in [b]bold[/b] or CAPITALIZATION? Or [i]italics[/i]? Or when words are [u]underlined?[/u]

It is a very common thing writers, penmen, poets, wordsmiths columnists and authors will do for [u]any number of [b]emphatic[/b] stylistic reasons.[/u]

Lot of good questions here, with a wide range of topics, I would love to debate. But I'm afraid I didn't catch the video and what it meant in relation, w/r to each your questions.

Could you explain each of your points of view w/r to the questions your asking? Yes, please state your cases!

BTW, the simple answer to all of your questions could easily be "YES", "YES", "Very", "Depends", "Depends", "Probably", but that's not exactly a debate...now is it?[/QUOTE]The posters that pepper off a long list of questions are the ones that desperately want to debate, but can't.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2899902] You douches blather on about rule of law. How about shoplifting in San Francisco? That is fine with you douches. How about a rich Indian family who flies into Mexicali, pays the drug cartels thousands, crosses the border illegally and then calls 911 for an emergency to come pick them up? Oh yeah, fuck that rule of law. Fuck the taxpayers who are paying for 911 services. We are looking at potential future Democratic voters. That and only that as we have seen is more important than any so called law. [/QUOTE]

Well you just can't please everyone! Look, is SF no longer a "blue" city?

[b]San Francisco 'can no longer be called progressive city...[/b]
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/san-francisco-no-longer-called-progressive-city-newspaper-declares-law-order-measures-pass[/URL]

As for SF, I'd thought you'd be happy [i]([b]ie.[/b] you know, like Trump's two fisted, hand pumping from side-to-side, [b]jerking-off two dicks simultaneously happy[/b]...kkkk!)[/i], with the "anti-woke" laws that just passed, it seems to me SF, is addressing and tackling some of it's problems and not running away from them, because Trump tells them "...when and how high to jump".

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2899902] I don't know WTF you are talking about with some border bill. There were executive orders in place that had this mess under control and as I showed, Biden rescinded them like on day one of his presidency. [/QUOTE]

Yes the border bill, the one with bipartisan support in the Senate (when I said it passed, I misspoke). The same one that had everything Repubs, wanted for US Border Security. The very same one,
[b]Biden shamed Repubs with,[/b] in his brilliant SOTU speech. The very same one, Trump ordered the House Repubs to put the kibosh on, where it was basically DOA in the House!

[b]Donald Trump brags about his efforts to scuttle bipartisan border deal[/b]
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/[/URL]

Yes, that border bill, [b]the one Trump put the kibosh on![/b]

Yes, the same border, Repub Sen. Katie Britt, was being disingenuous about and malodorously implied, her sex-trafficking sob story happened during Biden's term.

[b]Was Trump supporter Katie Britt caught in whopping lie about graphic sex trafficking story?[/b]
[i]See inset video by journalist, Jonathan M. Katz[/i]
[URL]https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/was-sen-katie-britt-caught-in-whopping-lie-about-graphic-sex-trafficking-story.html[/URL]

As for the rest of your incoherent and blabbering rant, if you choose to willfully [b]overlook[/b] and [b]ignore[/b] the rather large elephant in the room, that is Trump, well that's on you.

You Repubs, may [b]cowardly[/b] turn a blind-eye and are often blinded to Trumps malignant, crazy, destructive, malicious and pernicious behavior and thuggin' influence, the rest of us see the wanna be fascist dictator, for what he truly represents, is nothing short of insidious.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899998][b]Shocker.[/b] It turns out that new Ruby Red MAGA Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Alabama who gave that weepy, whiny, GOP response to Dem Joe Biden's terrific SOTU Address is a flat out LIAR.

Shocking, I know.

That story she told in detail about some young girl being repeatedly gang raped in the USA by drug runners let in by evil Joe Biden that she has repeatedly told and told again with relish in her internationally televised GOP response? Yeah, it happened in Mevico while Ruby Red Repub GW Bush was so-called president.

Joe Biden was not the President at that time. He wasn't even Vice President at that time.

[B]Katie Britt Used Decades-Old Example of Rapes in Mexico as Republican Attack on Biden Border Policy.[/B]

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2024-03-09/republican-senator-used-decades-old-example-of-rapes-in-mexico-to-attack-biden-border-policies[/URL]

I am sure Fux News will insist she appear on one of their top-rated prime time lie-fests to apologize to the World, America and specifically Joe Biden for repeating that favorite Ruby Red MAGA Lie in her GOP response the other night. Lolol.[/QUOTE] "Shocker", that more Repubs are being disingenuous and misrepresenting the truth, on such big issues like border security...yeah don't say! (...kkkk!)

[b]Was Trump supporter Katie Britt caught in whopping lie about graphic sex trafficking story?[/b]
[i]See inset video by journalist, Jonathan M. Katz, who broke the story.[/i]
[URL]https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/was-sen-katie-britt-caught-in-whopping-lie-about-graphic-sex-trafficking-story.html[/URL]

Once again, even with something as important as a SOTU Rebuttal, Repubs are being disingenuous, insincere and spreading misinformation, to the American people, knowing full well, [b][i]"...a lie travels half-way around the world, before the truth can get it boots on!"[/i][/b]

We'll see about any forthcoming retraction, on FOXY Muse or any other right-wing propaganda outlet....but I would hold my breath!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2899927]No doubt about it; after Trump's economic and national security policies, stewardship and lies converted a likely easily manageable endemic confined to one region in China into the historic deadly, worldwide economy Crashing, Supply-Chain collapsing, millions upon millions of jobs-destroying, Hyper Inflation-triggering Pandemic it became, Joe Biden's Great Dem Recovery has produced the Strongest Economy in the World.

According to Ultra Winger Fux News Economic Expert, Stephen Moore, in agreement with Joe Biden himself:

[B]Stephen Moore Agrees With Biden, US Economy Best In The World[/B]
[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/03/stephen-moore-agrees-pres-biden-us-economy[/URL]

[i]"...The facts, figures, and numbers are so strong that [b]even these idiots[/b] can't deny that the [u]US economy is roaring under President Biden.[/u]"[/i]

[/QUOTE] Great Post! The more great economic news to report, the less Repubs will have to campaign on.

Let me be so bold, as to also extend those undeniable, factual and truthful reporting, w/r to yet another glowing report on the US economy under President Joe Biden, to our [i]Russian "useful idiots"[/i] and so called [i]Repub ISG "economists",[/i] and say that the US economy is not just okay, tepid, or mah...[b]it is indeed R.O.A.R.I.N.G.!!![/b]
[LIST]Not to add more insult to injury, but more great news. The Feb 2024, US job numbers are better than expected, coming in with [b]275K added:[/b] [URL]https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/jobs-report-february-03-08-24/index.html[/URL][/LIST]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2900281]...on FOXY Muse or any other right-wing propaganda outlet....but I would hold my breath! [/QUOTE] [b]Correction:[/b] Should have read: "...but I [b]wouldn't[/b] hold my breath!"

[QUOTE=Questner;2900263][URL]https://www.heritage.org/press/oversight-project-sues-department-justice-records-used-hur-report[/URL]

The President's "aliases include Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and JRB Ware" Is it?

[URL]https://spectator.org/grumpy-old-man-mumbles-state-of-the-union/[/URL] No comments here.

[URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/bidens-state-of-the-union-was-a-declaration-of-war/[/URL]

I would say that the President has deep personal conflict of interest with respect to Ukraine and this conflict of interest costs everyone dearly.[/QUOTE] Uhh?

To what or to whom does any of this part of your post address?

Is it answering to past questions, I asked of you? Or someone else? Or just new business you're wanting to address?

[QUOTE=Questner;2900263]Well, I perceive bold text and capitalization both as shouting which is rude and patronizing to a reader, as if any reader can't follow or comprehend the whole text of the article. [/QUOTE]

Therein lies the artistry of the post. Granted, a writer's stylistic queues, my not suit everyone, but do that which makes you an individual. Or NOT!

Listen, there are many things ISGers, can point to that are REALLY and truly rude, [u]least of which[/u] is the odd word or two, that is [b]bolded[/b], CAPITALIZED, [i]italicized[/i], or [u]underlined.[/u] for effect, when writing.

Point and case, in your recent post for instance, you didn't include my quote (or anyone else's) in your post, to whom your criticisms, explanations, or comments are directed toward. This can also be seen as [b]rude.[/b] Not to mention very confusing to readers.

Also leaves the reader confused as to whom or to what some of the other comments, links and articles, in your post are addressing. Or perhaps just lazy posting, where it's left up to the reader to figure these things out for themselves?

Personally, I tend to focus on the [u]actual WORDS[/u] that are being said, by the writer of the post. Consider the rest as [b]"a poetic license"[/b] or colorful way, to draw the reader in, as writers have done before me, for eons.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2900270][b]That's Common.[/b] The posters that pepper off a long list of questions are the ones that desperately want to debate, but can't. [/QUOTE] Yes, very common indeed! My fav. the post with ONLY a single link to some video/article "debate" counter argument.

Spidy, my bad for not checking the record of your posts before.

The greatest contribution to this hookers forum was your post about 'whitezilla' (wtf?

Classic Repubs will say anything, do anything, lie, cheat and steal to make cuts to Social Security, Medicare and other now revered positive legislative accomplishments for the American people that Dems proposed, fought for and passed (but which Repubs never have) in order to shift American taxpayer dollars from funding those magnificent quality of life for everyone achievements into the pockets of their favorite political donor class wealthiest, top income margins and corporate CEOs.

Repubs always have and always will.

[B]There you go again: Lessons from previous US debates[/B]

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/15e746b6-81ce-11e6-8e50-8ec15fb462f4[/URL]

[QUOTE]
Reagans other famous one-liner from the debate was, [b]There you go again, which he said in response to Mr Carters accusation that Reagan wanted to eliminate Medicare.[/b] After that, There you go again became Reagans signature rejoinder to his critics.[/QUOTE][B]Reagan Budget Means Drastic Cuts In Medicare and Medicaid Programs.
Fifth of Nation Is Affected Reagan Budget Means Drastic Surgery for Medicare, Medicai.
Aug. 20, 1981[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/08/21/reagan-budget-means-drastic-cuts-in-medicare-and-medicaid-programs/5c74d19a-dfdc-4c57-924f-feb27dc78f9c/[/URL]

[B]Republican lawmakers push back after Biden says GOP wants to cut Social Security, Medicare: 'Dishonest move'[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republican-lawmakers-push-back-biden-says-gop-wants-cut-social-security-medicare[/URL]

[B]Trump says he's willing to cut entitlements to shrink the $23 trillion national debt.
March 12, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-cut-funding-entitlements-social-security-medicare-national-debt-reelection-2020-3-1028972301[/URL]

[B]Trump on Social Security, Medicare cuts: There is a lot you can do.
March 11, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4523816-trump-social-security-medicare-cuts-there-is-a-lot-you-can-do/[/URL]

Add this to Trump's 37+ times he went limp dick on Russia, trying not only to reverse the imposition of sanctions against Russia for invading Georgia and Crimea and its unprecedented election interference to help Trump win but to actually reward Russia for it and you can see as clear as day why Russia and "Make sure I win" China loves Trump and dreads the idea of Four More Years of Biden.

[B]'The decoupling's really in full force': expert warns of more USA Curbs on China.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/12/-us-curbs-on-china-to-rise-with-decoupling-in-full-force-expert-warns.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]In October 2022, the U.S. introduced rules aimed at blocking Chinas access to high-tech semiconductor chips and chip-manufacturing equipment amid concerns that China could use them for military purposes.

A year later, the U.S. said it was going to introduce more restrictions to close gaps that arose after 2022′s restrictions on AI chip exports went into effect.

"If it (U.S.) persistently monopolizes the high end of the value chain, and keeps China at the low end, where is fairness and competition?" Wang said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2900270]That's Common. The posters that pepper off a long list of questions are the ones that desperately want to debate, but can't.
[/QUOTE]
I have to say, when you're right, you're right! And you're soooo RIGHT!

It does bears repeating! That when guys come here, to flex their [b]"debating muscle(s)"[/b] and CANNOT, it's [u]nothing new[/u] and as you've aptly said...it's VERY COMMON!. Must have seen it a several hundred times!

But of course, there are those that then (often angrily and in frustration), naturally turn and grab the [i][b]"lowest hanging fruit"[/b][/i], that they can find and post it, as some form of "argument" or "counterpoint" to their so called idea of "debating". (NOTE: Often taking things out of context, to suit their [u][i]boorish narrative[/i][/u])

This sophomoric attempt to flex whatever remaining shred of a so called rebuttal, they can muster, is soooo very reminiscent of the recent [b]Repubs SOTU Rebuttal[/b], that was widely panned,
mocked, ridiculed, SNL'd and even punk'd, clowned, (to some seen as) [i]"creepy"[/i] and scorned as [i]"cringeworthy"[/i] by her own fellow Republican colleagues. An historical low and one of the worst rebuttals in recent history.

[b]Katie Britt State of the Union Rebuttal Torched by Republicans[/b]
[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/katie-britt-sotu-rebuttal-torched-republicans-1234983528/[/URL]

[b]"Parody-Level Terrible": Even Republicans Are Panning Katie Britt's...[/b]
[URL]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/katie-britt-state-of-the-union-rebuttal[/URL]

Perhaps, they'd ALL do better, if they did a "tag-team-up" with [b]ChatGPT AI[/b], to write their [u]nonsensical[/u] rebuttals? But then again, they'd probably fuck that up too! (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Questner;2900562]Spidy, my bad for not checking the record of your posts before.

The greatest contribution to this hookers forum was your post about 'whitezilla' (wtf? [/QUOTE]

[b]What now?[/b]...NO DEBATE? Or follow up arguments to any questions, that were put forth to you? Now all you want to do is, [u]discuss moi?[/u]

But wait a minute, wasn't it you that started your so called "debate", herein with your [b]"small mind"[/b] quote from dear ol' Eleanor Roosevelt (R.I.P.)?

[b]Here, let me refresh your memory:[/b]
[QUOTE=Questner;2899127] Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; [u][b]small minds discuss people.[/b][/u]

Eleanor Roosevelt.[/QUOTE]

Oh Shit! It seems your recent post, has you stepping right into your own hypocritical[b] "small minded bullshit"![/b] Hmmm...very messy and small minded indeed! But good luck with that!

Right now, I think this quote/idiom, (although perhaps a bit morbid), is most befitting of the moment ([b]me thinks[/b])!
[QUOTE]"If you give a man enough rope, he's sure to hang himself." --Unknown [Swinger][/QUOTE]

BTW, poor ol' dear Eleanor, she must be just literally, rolling over in her grave! (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2900580]Add this to Trump's 37+ times he went limp dick on Russia, trying not only to reverse the imposition of sanctions against Russia for invading Georgia and Crimea and its unprecedented election interference to help Trump win but to actually reward Russia for it and you can see as clear as day why Russia and "Make sure I win" China loves Trump and dreads the idea of Four More Years of Biden.

[B]'The decoupling's really in full force': expert warns of more USA Curbs on China.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/12/-us-curbs-on-china-to-rise-with-decoupling-in-full-force-expert-warns.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]

In the article, I have to wonder, is Tik Tok (BtyeDance), really though, a substantially much bigger threat to US national security, anymore so than Apple, Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, Samsung, Google or Microsoft, is with our data? Facebook/Instagram, is still reeling from the online Child Bullying and Exploitation hearings and so far, it's just a slap on the wrist and a sorry ass apology.

Perhaps the country should be worried about a would be corrupt president, who can easily be bought, sold and bribed, and how that effects US national security, wayyyy more than some App.

Point and case, on Aug 6th, 2020, Trump signed an executive order to ban Tik Tok unilaterally, then declaring it to be "bad", "evil", "dangerous" and tried to force the company to be sold. But eventually, it was struck down by the courts. Fast forward to today (Mar 8, 2024) and queue the corrupt, grifting Trump's Tik Tok (and Bud-light) [b]"flip-flop",[/b] 180 about turn is complete and all it took was a nice donation. Even winger Steve Bannon, looked shocked and thinks "Trump has been bought" --here:[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/steve-banngmailgmon-suggests-donald-trump-has-been-bought/ar-BB1jE1gh[/URL]

Now that his campaign received a rather large donation and/or campaign support, by one Jeff Yass (a billionaire, whose investment company owns 15% of ByteDance), Trump was singing a new and
different tune and w/r to banning Tik Tok.

[b]Why Trump Flipped on TikTok[/b]
[URL]https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/[/URL]

Sure ban it from ALL levels of gov't, but of the rest of the 150 million US Tik Tok users, are good entrepreneurs, that actually earn a decent living on Tik Tok. So I'm not sure this is a clear cut win for Dems. Think class action lawsuits for lost of wages/earnings and even a lost of younger voters, could spell trouble for Dems.

Yikes! Am I, in danger of siding with Trump w/r to Tik Tok (albeit for different reasons)? Someone wanna talk me down off this ledge? (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900973]In the article, I have to wonder, is Tik Tok (BtyeDance), really though, a substantially much bigger threat to US national security, anymore so than Apple, Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, Samsung, Google or Microsoft, is with our data? Facebook/Instagram, is still reeling from the online Child Bullying and Exploitation hearings and so far, it's just a slap on the wrist and a sorry ass apology.

Perhaps the country should be worried about a would be corrupt president, who can easily be bought, sold and bribed, and how that effects US national security, wayyyy more than some App.

Point and case, on Aug 6th, 2020, Trump signed an executive order to ban Tik Tok unilaterally, then declaring it to be "bad", "evil", "dangerous" and tried to force the company to be sold. But eventually, it was struck down by the courts. Fast forward to today (Mar 8, 2024) and queue the corrupt, grifting Trump's Tik Tok (and Bud-light) [b]"flip-flop",[/b] 180 about turn is complete and all it took was a nice donation. Even winger Steve Bannon, looked shocked and thinks "Trump has been bought" --here:[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/steve-banngmailgmon-suggests-donald-trump-has-been-bought/ar-BB1jE1gh[/URL][/QUOTE]I am not so impressed by Biden and his Dems targeting tik tok. After all, the Repub Pink Tinkle House is / was also ready to shut it down. And we all know the overriding principle of all major legislation is the worth of it, whatever it is, is diminished by every single Repub vote it garners; The most positive results for America being to pass legislation without a single Repub vote or at least without a single Repub vote required to pass it while the most negative results legislation being anything passed with only Repub votes. Always.

In that report, this was the part I cared most about:

[QUOTE]This comes after the U.S. has been ramping up pressure on Chinese companies in recent years, particularly in the semiconductor, EV and biotech sectors.[/QUOTE]But, definitely, Trump badly, badly, badly needs money. Turns out that claim of him being worth billions has been utter bullshit. As was his claim to have "substantially more cash on hand than $400 billion and increasing every month. " LOL. And it could be his dumb sucker Repub hillbilly donations are drying up.

Which means he is more ripe than ever for being "compromised" by anyone from any country for any reason who simply hands him a check in exchange for whatever National Security Classified documents and info he has stolen and willfully retained and hidden from the authorities requesting him to return them to their rightful owners.

And that also goes for whatever Classified info America-hating Repubs have foolishly delivered into his claws by their Repub Primary Votes this year.

Yeah, it isn't just Trump's recent hilarious Flip-Flops on Bud Light and Tik Tok within hours of those entities' sources cutting him a check for any silly amount he was begging for. Xi, Putin, Kim, the Taliban, Hamas, Iran, you name it, will all be lining up (again) to cut checks for Trump as soon as he starts getting access to Classified information.

This time Trump is so desperate I would not be surprised if he handed over every tid bit of the info he gets to anyone who can clear a check for, oh, $5,000 or so. Loser beggars like him can't afford to hold out for anything but low rent chump change. And every potential buyer out there knows it.

Repubs, from the RNC to the GOP, from the conservative centre-right to the "normiees", "moderates" and beyond the grave (ie. Lincoln and Reagan, must rolling over in their graves), may I say [b]R.I.P.!!![/b]

It's a purge, it's a takeover, it a gutting, it's a slashing of heads (metaphorically), ...yep [b]it's "MAGA Trump"[/b], hollowing out of the [i]"GOP/RNC donut"[/i] and filling it with [i]"MAGA/QAnon Cult spineless jelly",[/i] as more than 60+ positions at the RNC are slashed and cut, to make way for Trump loyalists.

[b]'Absolute bloodbath' at RNC as new leadership loyal to Trump purges...[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/new-rnc-leadership-trump-loyals-purge-staff[/URL]

It's official RNC/GOP party, the "old guard" numbers, are almost to the point of EXTINCTION! Trump World, MAGAland, QAnon World and the Heritage Foundation [b]"Project 2025"[/b] has officially begun in earnest.

[b]Critics warn RNC 'bloodbath' a preview of what [u]Project 2025[/u] would do if Trump is reelected[/b]
[URL]https://www.commondreams.org/news/project-2025-trumps-rnc-bloodbath-with-federal-government[/URL]
[LIST]Check out this quote and famous last words from Moscow Mitch (June 1st, 2016):
[QUOTE=Moscow Mitch] "...Donald Trump is not going to change what I think, [b]he's not gonna change the platform of the Republican Party, the views of the Repub party...[/b][u]I think we're much more likely to change him"[/u] (...kkkk!)

"Because if he is president, [u]he's much more likely[/u] to have to deal within, sort of like the center of right world, which is where most of us [Repubs] are..."[/QUOTE][/LIST]Fear not you stalwart "Never Trumpers" and RVAT voters, the good news is, that the Dems may yet get the House back (and hopefully more seats in the Senate), to do what you [b]cowardly bunch[/b] didn't do when you had the power to do it.

If the remaining Repubs in congress, are as smart (or NOT as cowardly) as they claim, they'll not let the same think happen in the 2024 US Presidential Election, nor in the [b]Ukraine[/b] (and beyond), with Russia.

Heed this gutting of the RNC and [b][i]"blood bath"[/i][/b] as a warning, to all ye remaining "good conservative" Repubs. The writing is on the wall!!!

Question and Point of Logic: With the [i]"RNC blood bath"[/i] now in full swing, does this mean the party once known as the [i]"Ruby Red Party"[/i], SHOULD BE now known as the [i][b]"Blood(y) Red Party?"[/b][/i] (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900970][b]What now?[/b]...NO DEBATE? Or follow up arguments to any questions, that were put forth to you? Now all you want to do is, [u]discuss moi?[/u]

But wait a minute, wasn't it you that started your so called "debate", herein with your [b]"small mind"[/b] quote from dear ol' Eleanor Roosevelt (R.I.P.)?
[/QUOTE]Why would anyone want to debate you fools? It is more fun just to watch you guys lie to each other and jerk each other off.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900970]Look, is SF no longer a "blue" city?

San Francisco 'can no longer be called progressive city

with the "anti-woke" laws that just passed, it seems to me SF, is addressing and tackling some of it's problems[/QUOTE]Yes, by all means, everyone thought letting criminals steal, defunding the police, and giving drug addicts welfare money were great ideas. Lies #1 through 3. And passing new "anti-woke" laws are going to fix it? Lie #4.

San Francisco is not blue. Lie #5. It is not progressive. Lie #6. It is anti-woke. Lie #7.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900970]you know, like Trump's two fisted, hand pumping from side-to-side, [b]jerking-off two dicks simultaneously happy[/b]and tackling some of it's problems and not running away from them, because Trump tells them "...when and how high to jump".[/QUOTE]Trump has nothing to do with San Francisco's mess. Lie #8. And Trump followers picked him out over the establishment picks like Jeb Bush in 2016 which means they are free thinking not mind numbed robots. Lie #9.

But the biggest lie is the one you told yourself. We Democrats are smarter than Trump followers. Yeah, we know you think that. Maybe you can do us a favor. If we are so stupid, why don't you douches quit moving into red states?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900970]Yes the border bill, the one with bipartisan support in the Senate (when I said it passed, I misspoke). The same one that had everything Repubs, wanted for US Border Security. The very same one,
[b]Biden shamed Repubs with,[/b] in his brilliant SOTU speech. The very same one, Trump ordered the House Repubs to put the kibosh on, where it was basically DOA in the House!

[b]Donald Trump brags about his efforts to scuttle bipartisan border deal[/b]
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/[/URL]

Yes, that border bill, [b]the one Trump put the kibosh on![/b][/QUOTE]Lie #10 is Democrats claiming there were no border problems. But yeah, how could Republicans be that stupid to be opposed to a border bill when there is such an issue with the border?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2900970]A bipartisan group of House lawmakers is amplifying its calls for Speaker Mike Johnson to stage a vote on legislation linking foreign military aid with domestic border security, framing that combination as the only recipe for getting Ukraine assistance through a deeply divided Congress.[/QUOTE]Oh, so that is why. Lie #11 Spidy is you are saying this is just a "border" bill as opposed to a spending bill with tens of billions on Ukrainian and Israeli aid.

So there is nothing to debate. It is just the same old Dems good, Republicans bad over and over, and when the facts show that is not the case, you lie and insult. Questner is right. There is no discussion of ideas.

The debate about the border bill is Biden wants money to be given to Ukraine free and clear and wants to attach said aid to the USA border. Trump wants Ukrainian aid to be a loan not a gift and is not willing to cede any border authority to Biden after he rescinded Trump's executive orders.

We are so used to you douches we can predict your response. Biden is a genius, and Trump is a moron. The end. And that is why we do not need to post. We already know what you are going to say.

"First off, it is one thing to blame or credit a president with anything. Blaming Trump for the pandemic or giving Biden credit for going back to work after lockdowns ended is folly to me. You need to explain to me what said president did to affect the positive or negative change. Unlike the douches with their Republicans bad / Dems good diatribe, I can give Dems credit. Clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, and made the economy went boom. The irony is the Clintons have gone from populism to elitists IMO and that is why HRC lost.

The latest Democrat twist is to say there is not an issue with the border.

So is the border problem Biden's fault? To that, the facts show not just yes but hell yes.

The EO also revoked the following executive actions:

Executive Order 13767, issued on January 25,2017, which directed executive agencies to secure the southern border and prevent illegal immigration into the United States, and called for immediate construction of a wall along the southern border.

Proclamation 9880, issued on May 8, 2019, which deemed immigrants who entered the United States without inspection ineligible for asylum.

Presidential Memorandum of April 29,2019, which prevented certain asylum seekers from pursuing any other form of immigration relief, required adjudication of asylum cases within 180 days of filing, imposed an application fee for asylum claims, and barred asylum seekers who entered the United States without inspection from receiving work authorization while their applications were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 6, 2018, which prevented DHS from releasing immigrants from detention while their immigration cases were pending.

Presidential Memorandum of April 4, 2018, which deployed the National Guard to secure the southwest border.

So yeah, Biden owns the border mess.

Seeing as how Democratic douches love attacking sources, the guy making this video is very pro-Ukraine. He has a Ukrainian wife and made videos condemning Putin. He is part of the group that is the new media because at this point, the mainstream is so bad that you know what they are going to say before they say it.

For me, the video was confirmation that the people ending up on the border seeking asylum are from all over the world and are not Mexican. It is an organized effort to skirt American law that benefits Mexican drug cartels. RFK Jr. Had a video showing the same thing.

If you ever want to know what Trump derangement syndrome is, you cannot get it any better than with the wall. Trump used tax payer dollars to buy supplies to build the wall. The Biden administration came in and literally said we are not going to use any of the materials that the Trump administration bought, and those supplies are sitting there to this day. Yes, the Biden administration is that fucking petty and that stupid. This video shows said supplies.

What has not been shown is illegal immigrants coming in wearing Biden t-shirts, but I am sure I will see one showing that.

Between this and Merrick Garland's latest speech condemning the use of voter ID laws shows the great criminal enterprise Biden is undertaking. He is literally allowing illegals to come into the USA to vote for him and paying them off with USA tax dollars. It is not even subtle.

Like you see with the Democratic douches here, they do not care if it is only Americans voting in the election. All they care about is if their side wins.

In 2020, if I were a judge, I would be skeptical of having to step in and possibly overturn an election, but the Dems have made it easy now with the complete fucking idiocy that went on in Colorado and Maine where Trump was tried to be taken off the ballot. And we have seen Dems weaponize the justice system to go after Trump and all these cases that just happen to materialize right before the election? At least in 2020 if there was massive cheating, it was hidden well enough that judges could not act. Now it is out in the open, and they are going to have to act if there are issues in the election. Well, at this point, we know there will be horrific cheating. It is just how well can it be hidden.

Quite frankly, with Biden mouthing off to the Supreme Court last night and openly bragging about and defying them with student loan forgiveness, I do not think judges will sit on the sidelines this time.

Dems were given a 9 to 0 loss the last time they tried to cheat and win an election without having it decided by voters.

So here is the video on the border that some here have suggested is not a problem:

It is very much worth watching. ".

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/12/former-democrat-dennis-kucinich-joe-bidens-reprehensible-border-agenda-plan-drive-down-wages/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2901350]Why would anyone want to debate you fools? It is more fun just to watch you guys lie to each other and jerk each other off.

Yes, by all means, everyone thought letting criminals steal, defunding the police, and giving drug addicts welfare money were great ideas. Lies #1 through 3. And passing new "anti-woke" laws are going to fix it? Lie #4.

San Francisco is not blue. Lie #5. It is not progressive. Lie #6. It is anti-woke. Lie #7.

Trump has nothing to do with San Francisco's mess. Lie #8. And Trump followers picked him out over the establishment picks like Jeb Bush in 2016 which means they are free thinking not mind numbed robots. Lie #9.

But the biggest lie is the one you told yourself. We Democrats are smarter than Trump followers. Yeah, we know you think that. Maybe you can do us a favor. If we are so stupid, why don't you douches quit moving into red states?

Lie #10 is Democrats claiming there were no border problems. But yeah, how could Republicans be that stupid to be opposed to a border bill when there is such an issue with the border?

Oh, so that is why. Lie #11 Spidy is you are saying this is just a "border" bill as opposed to a spending bill with tens of billions on Ukrainian and Israeli aid.

So there is nothing to debate. It is just the same old Dems good, Republicans bad over and over, and when the facts show that is not the case, you lie and insult. Questner is right. There is no discussion of ideas.

The debate about the border bill is Biden wants money to be given to Ukraine free and clear and wants to attach said aid to the USA border. Trump wants Ukrainian aid to be a loan not a gift and is not willing to cede any border authority to Biden after he rescinded Trump's executive orders.

We are so used to you douches we can predict your response. Biden is a genius, and Trump is a moron. The end. And that is why we do not need to post. We already know what you are going to say.[/QUOTE]Well due to the recent Repub [B]"blood bath"[/B], it seems Repub Congressman, Ken Buck (R-CO), has had enough of his fellow, "do nothing", "know nothing", non-serious MAGA Repubs and is out of there, gone, exit-stage-left.

Know doubt, his dutifully and inconvenient exit, does somewhat hamstring, christo fascist House Speaker, Mike Johnson, torching his party, on his way out the door. Could this be like Moses, parting the Rea Sea, where dear ol' Ken Buck, is paving the way for his fellow Repubs, to cross the great political divide?

The only question is, how many more "normiees" and "moderates", will follow him out the door? Perhaps thereby, inevitably giving the Dems the House, [B]so serious[/B] work, policies and legislation can be performed, in stead of this Repub clown show?

[B]No lies needed[/B], Repubs have succumb to their own cowardice!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2901425]Well due to the recent Repub [B]"blood bath"[/B], it seems Repub Congressman, Ken Buck (R-CO), has had enough of his fellow, "do nothing", "know nothing", non-serious MAGA Repubs and is out of there, gone, exit-stage-left.

Know doubt, his dutifully and inconvenient exit, does somewhat hamstring, christo fascist House Speaker, Mike Johnson, torching his party, on his way out the door. Could this be like Moses, parting the Rea Sea, where dear ol' Ken Buck, is paving the way for his fellow Repubs, to cross the great political divide?

The only question is, how many more "normiees" and "moderates", will follow him out the door? Perhaps thereby, inevitably giving the Dems the House, [B]so serious[/B] work, policies and legislation can be performed, in stead of this Repub clown show?

[B]No lies needed[/B], Repubs have succumb to their own cowardice![/QUOTE]As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump for wanting to return these grubs. And wanting to MAGA.

From what I see with my own eyes and this can't be misinformation. Biden is completely fucked and could not run the raffle at my local footy club.

Yet the Dems turn a blind eye to all his obvious short comings.(fuck I laugh when he forgets everything or walks into the bushes or just falls off his bike) they would be the Hunter Biden Laptop and the Emails from Hillary Clinton. The whole world laughs at this.

Then there is the poor people who did nothing wrong who are still in jail after supposedly storming the capital on the 6th January. All of which has been proven to be a travesty. But wait it gets better. Floyd is a hero.

The world has one chance to survive.. TRUMP.

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901444]As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump for wanting to return these grubs. And wanting to MAGA.

From what I see with my own eyes and this can't be misinformation. Biden is completely fucked and could not run the raffle at my local footy club..[/QUOTE]Clearly and inarguably, you have been shovel-fed a load of total crap from whatever it is you think is "news."

"I only watch Fox for a start."

Yep, what you have seen and absorbed is most definitely misinformation.

Biden vs Trump?

Please provide a clip of Biden to rival anything like these from Trump:

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2017 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/MjZHDcKCA-I?si=bUzHwc6jGrOZqcGL[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2018 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA?si=bioLuGDwLWnetGzl[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2019 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc?si=NjT5lyHycvBqyDKp[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: Bracket Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk?si=BHaaq68TWss9e_Q3[/URL]

[B]Oh, then you must have seen this on Fux, right? Nikki Haley Nikki.Haley Nikki Haley, his Repub nomination rival, never was Speaker of the House. Nope. He apparently means Nancy Pelosi[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/AwWFuPsSHFw?si=a0d-jOPjH8F3uwbq[/URL]

[B]A recent serious Trump brain malfunction[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/3Cqa1y3U8-0?si=Pn10t0Nt_F_9PH82[/URL]

[B]Trump repeatedly confuses Obama with Biden and warns of the pending WWII[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/rEP3z5xStE4?si=AOHkllvxnv7heB2C[/URL]

There are hours of fully covered, no tight editing, blithering incoherence like this from Trump in just the past 7 years while there is virtually none from Biden over the course of decades on the political stage.

So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?

Uh. Yeah, you need to stop watching Fux News ASAP. Watching nothing at all would keep you better informed than subjecting your eyes and ears to even 10 minutes of Fux News per week.

Here is a bonus clip for you of those "poor people who did nothing wrong" at the behest of Donald Trump while Donald Trump sat on his rump for more than 3 hours of this doing absolutely nothing to stop it despite the pleas from his staff and family members to do so:

[URL]https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w?si=9UuYNpcSVcPH4Xc2[/URL]

I assume you and others supposedly from civilized countries got a big laugh out of that, too, huh?

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901444]The world has one chance to survive.. TRUMP.[/QUOTE]Though living down under you're fully indoctrinated. But you have another step to take, and that's to get a pair of these shoes so you can signal to all in your part of the world what you stand for. Now the gold ones are sold out for now, but if you scroll down you'll see other models. You might also want to go for a bottle of the Victory 47 cologne, a bit steep at $99 but the screw on cap is a bust of Trump so don't complain too much.

[URL]https://gettrumpsneakers.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2901350]

[QUOTE=NOT MY QUOTE]A bipartisan group of House lawmakers is amplifying its calls for Speaker Mike Johnson to stage a vote on legislation linking foreign military aid with domestic border security, framing that combination as the only recipe for getting Ukraine assistance through a deeply divided Congress.[/QUOTE]

Oh, so that is why. Lie #11 Spidy is you are saying this is just a "border" bill as opposed to a spending bill with tens of billions on Ukrainian and Israeli aid. [/QUOTE]
Yeah not my [b]"A bipartisan group..."[/b] quote, Elvis 2008! Try again?

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901444]As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. [/QUOTE] Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, [b]also suffer[/b] from the [b]same affliction,[/b] when they watch too much FOXY Muse. Easy to understand, as Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching right-wing media empire, is insidious, and in many corners of the world.

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901444]Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump ...

The world has one chance to survive.. TRUMP.[/QUOTE]

As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have [b]$787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for [u]lying[/u] to Americans[/b] and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt!

Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Again...well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. [b]After all...[/b]it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:

[QUOTE]"A lie, can get half-way around the world, [b]before the truth[/b] has a chance to put it's boots on" -- Mark Twain[/QUOTE]

From one right-wing [b]visionless[/b] fmr. US President, to another [b]short sighted boss[/b], in the quasi penultimate words of, Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, [i]"...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."[/i]

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, [i][b]"visions of a future",[/b][/i] is always looking BACKWARDS?

[u]Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:[/u]
[LIST]BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.[/LIST]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2901552]Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, [b]also suffer[/b] from the [b]same affliction![/b] As Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching media empire, is insidious, in many corners of the world.



As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have [b]$787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for [u]lying[/u] to Americans[/b] and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt! Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. [b]After all...[/b]it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:



From one right-wing visionless fmr. US President, to another short sighted former boss, in Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, [i]"...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."[/i]

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, [i][b]"visions of a future",[/b][/i] is always looking BACKWARDS?

[u]Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:[/u]
[LIST]BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.[/LIST][/QUOTE]Now now. Are you really suggesting that someone who has concluded something as blitheringly nonsensical as that historic economic, national security, health recovery, jobs creation and wage gains, violent crime reduction and democratic alliance NATO expansion President Joe Biden's obvious shortcomings no one should ignore in favor of supporting historic WORST economic and national security results of all time Donald Trump are "Hunter Biden's laptop and Hillary Clinton's emails" has been suckered and bamboozled into a pathetic state of astonishing misinformation by his beloved Fux News?

That is so unfair.

Naturally, as a Classic Conservative Repub, Piety Mike Pence is proud of his Trump Administration's record of laying the groundwork for, exacerbating and lying the world into an unprecedented Worldwide Deadly and Economically Disastrous Trump's Pandemic, mass murdering at least a million Americans, wiping out Tens of Millions of Jobs, passing only one economic "stimulus" legislation that added Trillions to the deficit but produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it even before his economic and national security decisions and lies in 2018,2019 and 2020 created Trump's Pandemic and all the historic spikes in Inflation, Border Crossings and Crime Levels that followed, siding with Putin and other authoritarian dictators over America at every turn including the 37+ times Trump went limp dick on Putin to the point of secretly trying to eliminate the sanctions imposed against Russia and publicly rewarding Russia for invading Georgia and Crimea as well as engaging in unprecedented collusion with Team Trump in order to put him in the White House and, of course, keeping America and the USA Military actively and directly engaged in a ground War in the Middle East for every minute of every hour of every day of its term in office along with breaking his Oath of Office to encite a violent, cop-attacking and cop-killing Insurrection against America to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy.

What Classic Conservative Repub would not be incredibly proud of those accomplishments that, among others, has led a bi-partisan consensus of American Presidential Historians to accurately judge Trump to be The Worst USA President of All Time?

[B]Mike Pence won't endorse Donald Trump in 2024: 'It should come as no surprise'.
March 16, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike-pence-endorse-donald-trump-2024-surprise/story?id=108167592[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Look, I'm incredibly proud of the record of our administration," Pence said. "It was a conservative record that made America more prosperous, more secure and saw conservatives appointed to our courts in a more peaceful world."[/QUOTE]Maybe it was that thingy about his boss being fine with and even encouraging those "poor people who did nothing wrong" breaking into the Capitol in a search for Pence in order to publicly hang him by neck until dead for daring not to violate the Constitution at Trump's illegal request.

Sure, sure, he won't ever endorse and vote for Biden because, you know, there is that Historic Economic Recovery and Jobs Creation thing about him that Classic Conservative Repubs hate so much.

Or maybe it is just his constant worry about those Hunter Biden dick pics in his laptop and those disturbing Hillary Clinton emails detailing the color scheme and food selection for her daughter's wedding.

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901444]As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. [/QUOTE]Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2901467]
So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?[/QUOTE]Here is a video showing when all the experts lied to us: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMaHKykfdcQ[/URL].

1. 15 days to stop the spread of Covid.

2. Not needing masks. Then flip flopping.

3. Vaccines not being mandated.

4. Masks not being mandated.

5. Kids should not be in school.

6. Vaccines will end Covid.

7. Vaccines do not affect menstrual health.

8. No more masks after vaccines.

9. Lying about what gain of function is.

10. Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

And again, this is why it is not worth debating you guys. After all these bullshit lies from the "experts", you still believe that that the issue with the pandemic was Trump not listening to these same "experts" even when it was a worldwide pandemic.

That could be my new Democratic douche slogan: liars saying we should listen to other liars.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2901552]Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, [b]also suffer[/b] from the [b]same affliction,[/b] when they watch too much FOXY Muse. Easy to understand, as Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching right-wing media empire, is insidious, and in many corners of the world.



As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have [b]$787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for [u]lying[/u] to Americans[/b] and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt!

Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Again...well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. [b]After all...[/b]it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:



From one right-wing [b]visionless[/b] fmr. US President, to another [b]short sighted boss[/b], in the quasi penultimate words of, Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, [i]"...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."[/i]

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, [i][b]"visions of a future",[/b][/i] is always looking BACKWARDS?

[u]Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:[/u]
[LIST]BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.[/LIST][/QUOTE]Yes it is a tough one. Unfortunately. Who knows what is real.

As far as Aussie politics go. Seriously our leaders just follow America and hope you are right.

I don't know.

Cheers Mate. Fingers crossed That honesty wins out.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2901467]Clearly and inarguably, you have been shovel-fed a load of total crap from whatever it is you think is "news."

"I only watch Fox for a start."

Yep, what you have seen and absorbed is most definitely misinformation.

Biden vs Trump?

Please provide a clip of Biden to rival anything like these from Trump:

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2017 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/MjZHDcKCA-I?si=bUzHwc6jGrOZqcGL[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2018 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA?si=bioLuGDwLWnetGzl[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: 2019 Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc?si=NjT5lyHycvBqyDKp[/URL]

[B]Trump's Best Words: Bracket Edition[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk?si=BHaaq68TWss9e_Q3[/URL]

[B]Oh, then you must have seen this on Fux, right? Nikki Haley Nikki.Haley Nikki Haley, his Repub nomination rival, never was Speaker of the House. Nope. He apparently means Nancy Pelosi[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/AwWFuPsSHFw?si=a0d-jOPjH8F3uwbq[/URL]

[B]A recent serious Trump brain malfunction[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/3Cqa1y3U8-0?si=Pn10t0Nt_F_9PH82[/URL]

[B]Trump repeatedly confuses Obama with Biden and warns of the pending WWII[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/rEP3z5xStE4?si=AOHkllvxnv7heB2C[/URL]

There are hours of fully covered, no tight editing, blithering incoherence like this from Trump in just the past 7 years while there is virtually none from Biden over the course of decades on the political stage.

So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?

Uh. Yeah, you need to stop watching Fux News ASAP. Watching nothing at all would keep you better informed than subjecting your eyes and ears to even 10 minutes of Fux News per week.

Here is a bonus clip for you of those "poor people who did nothing wrong" at the behest of Donald Trump while Donald Trump sat on his rump for more than 3 hours of this doing absolutely nothing to stop it despite the pleas from his staff and family members to do so:

[URL]https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w?si=9UuYNpcSVcPH4Xc2[/URL]

I assume you and others supposedly from civilized countries got a big laugh out of that, too, huh?[/QUOTE]Sorry Mate.

I love your reply to my genuine post.

And I am very open minded.

But ha ha.

Are these posts I am seeing of the leader of the free world edited to make him look like a person who is not able to run a chook raffle. Is he really ok. Please answer this. He falls over. Can't put two words together. Reads off cards. Keeps keeps keeps saying I will get into trouble if I answer this. Refuses point blank to debate. Because he is not able. Not able. Not able.

Are all the people coming into the US over the border.(newcomers) good people. How come I see thousands of young men and a few ladies. I saw on FOX where young girls were laid on a bed and fucked all day. As part of Bidens Newcomer Policy. A million children are shipped into your great country and just disappear. Into the sex trafficking industry. Is this all misinformation.

Are all the people locked up. STILL from January 6th. Worse than the other criminals walking freely around the US. Robbing murdering and just doing what ever they like. While you are oversees fucking.

Mate I am an old bloke who sees the truth.

Let me tell you right now.

If Trump does not win the next election the world is fucked.

I was watching Aussie SKY TV one day and the boss of the greens (one of our major political parties) refused to stand in front of the Aussie flag. Not one free to air station ever showed it.(that is when I realised how much our media determines).

The media is turning you into someone who bags Aussies for their opinion.(think about it).

[QUOTE=Tlito;2901618]Sorry Mate.

I love your reply to my genuine post.

And I am very open minded.

But ha ha.

Are these posts I am seeing of the leader of the free world edited to make him look like a person who is not able to run a chook raffle. Is he really ok. Please answer this. He falls over. Can't put two words together. Reads off cards. Keeps keeps keeps saying I will get into trouble if I answer this. Refuses point blank to debate. Because he is not able. Not able. Not able.

Are all the people coming into the US over the border.(newcomers) good people. How come I see thousands of young men and a few ladies. I saw on FOX where young girls were laid on a bed and fucked all day. As part of Bidens Newcomer Policy. A million children are shipped into your great country and just disappear. Into the sex trafficking industry. Is this all misinformation.

Are all the people locked up. STILL from January 6th. Worse than the other criminals walking freely around the US. Robbing murdering and just doing what ever they like. While you are oversees fucking.

Mate I am an old bloke who sees the truth.

Let me tell you right now.

If Trump does not win the next election the world is fucked.

I was watching Aussie SKY TV one day and the boss of the greens (one of our major political parties) refused to stand in front of the Aussie flag. Not one free to air station ever showed it.(that is when I realised how much our media determines).

The media is turning you into someone who bags Aussies for their opinion.(think about it).[/QUOTE]Here is the President that idiot Trump and your Fux News has apparently convinced you can't put two words together:

[B]President Biden's State of the Union Address, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/cplSUhU2avc?si=0X0xJyjy2eZYRrnH[/URL]

This is the best that Trump's Party had to offer as a response:

[B]Alabama Republican Senator Katie Britt delivers the GOP response to the SOTU[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/jqMyaE6kmKo?si=LeWlldN9NboXQX86[/URL]

And you might be interested to know that the best that Trump's Party had to offer was lying through her teeth about her breathlessly scary story about the young girl being gang raped in the USA by drug runners let in by Joe Biden. Surprised? You wouldn't be if you watched some Real News sources every now and then. It turns out the young girl was not raped in the USA, it happened in Mexico. And it didn't happen during Joe Biden's presidency, it happened during Repub GW Bush's so-called presidency and not during Joe Biden's presidency:

[B]Katie Britt Accused of 'Whopping Lie' in SOTU Response[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/katie-britt-accused-whopping-lie-sotu-response-1877591[/URL]

Also, I don't know who all these news sources are that you claim only refer to the border crossing asylum-seekers that Biden is required by the USA Constitution to investigate for their claim of seeking asylum and can not just be turned away, a process that Trump's decimation of the legal Immigration system has caused that process to take years instead of weeks and that Trump demanded his Repub-controlled House of Representatives to KEEP IT THAT WAY, as "newcomers".

Meanwhile, where is all this out-of-control crime being committed by them supposedly taking place anyway?

[B]Facts still matter: Data shows sanctuary cities keep communities safer.
Feb. 2020[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/481851-facts-still-matter-data-shows-sanctuary-cities-keep-communities-safer/[/URL]

[B]Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585[/URL]

[B]'It is historic': US poised to see record drop in yearly homicides despite public concern over crime.
The year is expected to end with over 2,000 fewer murders than in 2022.[/B]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numbers-poised-hit-record-decline-nationwide-americans/story?id=105556400[/URL]

Oh, and here are bonus links for when Trump killed the bi-partisan comprehensive Immigration Reform efforts not once but twice in the past 6 years, because he loves Open Borders so much:

[B]Trump rejects immigration compromise.
June, 2018[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/trump-immigration-compromise/index.html[/URL]

[B]'Immoral': Some Republicans rebuke efforts to kill immigration deal to help Trump.
The fight over an emerging border and foreign aid bill grew tense Thursday as the GOP split over whether to sink the deal to boost Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Jan. 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/immoral-republicans-rebuke-efforts-kill-immigration-deal-help-trump-rcna135732[/URL]

Debates? Biden has not ruled out any debates. Who told you that? You might want to sit down for this; Donald Trump hid in his basement to avoid debating Joe Biden in 2020 and ran for cover from every GOP primary debate even against an opponent he characterized as a "birdbrain" this very year.

What on earth would Trump talk about in a debate aside from rattling off one lie after another? The glorious future of Covfefe with him at the helm again?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2901576]Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad![/QUOTE]Sorry Mate.

I just see the truth on Fox.

What are you watching please.

Do you watch a station that shows Biden being honest.

Young.

Coherent.

Not letting really bad people into your country.

Is this all misinformation.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2901576]Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad![/QUOTE]Mate.

What do you watch.

Do you watch a station that shows Biden as a smart man who does not let criminals into YOUR country to murder your children.

Sorry Mate.

Am I watching lies on Fox that show that Biden is the worst president the US has ever had.

Ha.

"As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump for wanting to return these grubs. And wanting to MAGA.

From what I see with my own eyes and this can't be misinformation. Biden is completely fucked and could not run the raffle at my local footy club.

Yet the Dems turn a blind eye to all his obvious short comings. (fuck I laugh when he forgets everything or walks into the bushes or just falls off his bike) they would be the Hunter Biden Laptop and the Emails from Hillary Clinton. The whole world laughs at this.

Then there is the poor people who did nothing wrong who are still in jail after supposedly storming the capital on the 6th January. All of which has been proven to be a travesty. But wait it gets better. Floyd is a hero.

The world has one chance to survive. TRUMP. ".

[URL]https://www.aol.com/news/opinion-us-brink-another-civil-174055045.html[/URL]

Inshallah!!

Seriously, what does it say about a nominee's fitness for Office as well as the verifiable and defensible record results of his previous term that every VP of the 3 most recent Repub Presidencies, including his own, along with dozens of Cabinet-level and other members of his own administration who knew him well, worked next to him, observed him on a daily basis and know what he is up to and all about have gone public in opposing his re-election?

It really is astonishing, unprecedented in Presidential Electoral History. And so telling.

Damn. Just look at this list!

[B]List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign.[/B]

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign[/URL]

Yes, of course, in keeping with my usual non partisan openness to giving every Political Party a free and fair opportunity to win my vote and support based solely on each Party's long, long, long term record of results and never based solely on Party Affiliation, I entered the same Google Search topic for Joe. Biden's re-election campaign. And I even found a Fux News link for it, which I am happy to include here:

[B]List of Democrats opposed to Biden running for re-election grows with addition of vulnerable congresswoman.
Aug. 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/list-democrats-opposed-biden-running-reelection-grows-addition-vulnerable-congresswoman[/URL]

[URL]https://theweek.com/joe-biden/1015407/democrats-challenge-biden-2024[/URL]

So, I found some lady named Craig, another one named Williamson and that Phillips guy, who ran a pathetic campaign for the Dem nomination vs Biden. Maybe that Williamson lady is running too, not sure. And I suppose she is or was a Dem, too. Again, not sure. And there is West and that anti-vax conspiracy theory weirdo RFK Jr. I have no idea what Party he belongs to anymore. Maybe the Pro Measles Party.

But I know none of them worked with Biden directly or were ever members of his administration.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2901581]Here is a video showing when all the experts lied to us: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMaHKykfdcQ[/URL].

1. 15 days to stop the spread of Covid.

2. Not needing masks. Then flip flopping.

3. Vaccines not being mandated.

4. Masks not being mandated.

5. Kids should not be in school.

6. Vaccines will end Covid.

7. Vaccines do not affect menstrual health.

8. No more masks after vaccines.[/QUOTE]So you think that in the SAME MONTH that the so-called president Trump was grandly announcing his lie to the world that, "We've got this under control. It's no big deal blah blah blah" Dr. Fauci should have been recommending that every American run to the nearest drug store, buy up all the available masks and wear them at every opportunity?

Don't you and that dits narrating the video realize how idiotic someone sounds who is pushing that silliness?

Hey, I've got a little inside secret to share with you about the REALITY of Trump's Pandemic from someone who lived on the direct opposite side of the planet all through it:

There were CLOSURES throughout the entire country of Thailand. Schools were closed. Malls were closed. Restaurants were closed. For MONTHS if not YEARS at a time.

Masks were mandated virtually everywhere. As was Social Distancing.

Again, for months if not years.

An Economic Catastrophe? Holy shit yes. Bangkok, the most visited tourist destination city on Earth was a fucking ghost town for months if not years.

But here is the secret. Are you ready for this? Don't tell anyone else. Especially your beloved pro Repub Mainstream Media, ok?

Here goes:

Almost nobody here ever heard of Dr. Fauci.

Really.

They damn near barely heard of Joe Biden in early 2020.

They barely knew what a "Democrat" or a "Republican" was.

And they didn't care.

They had their own scientists, their own research teams, their own statistics on who was getting so ill they were flooding the private rooms in the private hospitals, who was dying from it and why, who was likely to carry it back to their friends and family, which regions it was spreading in most rapidly and why and on and on and on.

They were not "obeying" Dr. Fauci, Joe Biden or anyone in any other country. They were doing exactly what was necessary at every interval in order to reduce as many deaths as possible in THIS country until a time when a decent supply of vaccines that Trump was busy trying to convince the world were not necessary were here, available and then, guess what, they were mandated if you wanted to go anywhere, travel anywhere or enter a room with more than 5-10 other people in it.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the people you think caused you so much angst in America.

Shh. Don't tell anyone. Just keep up that silly ranting about how you were victimized by Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2901637]Here is the President that idiot Trump and your Fux News has apparently convinced you can't put two words together:

[B]President Biden's State of the Union Address, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/cplSUhU2avc?si=0X0xJyjy2eZYRrnH[/URL]

This is the best that Trump's Party had to offer as a response:

[B]Alabama Republican Senator Katie Britt delivers the GOP response to the SOTU[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/jqMyaE6kmKo?si=LeWlldN9NboXQX86[/URL]

And you might be interested to know that the best that Trump's Party had to offer was lying through her teeth about her breathlessly scary story about the young girl being gang raped in the USA by drug runners let in by Joe Biden. Surprised? You wouldn't be if you watched some Real News sources every now and then. It turns out the young girl was not raped in the USA, it happened in Mexico. And it didn't happen during Joe Biden's presidency, it happened during Repub GW Bush's so-called presidency and not during Joe Biden's presidency:

[B]Katie Britt Accused of 'Whopping Lie' in SOTU Response[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/katie-britt-accused-whopping-lie-sotu-response-1877591[/URL]

Also, I don't know who all these news sources are that you claim only refer to the border crossing asylum-seekers that Biden is required by the USA Constitution to investigate for their claim of seeking asylum and can not just be turned away, a process that Trump's decimation of the legal Immigration system has caused that process to take years instead of weeks and that Trump demanded his Repub-controlled House of Representatives to KEEP IT THAT WAY, as "newcomers".

Meanwhile, where is all this out-of-control crime being committed by them supposedly taking place anyway?

[B]Facts still matter: Data shows sanctuary cities keep communities safer. Feb. 2020[/B]
[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/481851-facts-still-matter-data-shows-sanctuary-cities-keep-communities-safer/[/URL]

[B]Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585[/URL]

[B]'It is historic': US poised to see record drop in yearly homicides despite public concern over crime.
The year is expected to end with over 2,000 fewer murders than in 2022.[/B]
[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numbers-poised-hit-record-decline-nationwide-americans/story?id=105556400[/URL]

Oh, and here are bonus links for when Trump killed the bi-partisan comprehensive Immigration Reform efforts not once but twice in the past 6 years, because he loves Open Borders so much:

[B]Trump rejects immigration compromise. June, 2018[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/trump-immigration-compromise/index.html[/URL]

[B]'Immoral': Some Republicans rebuke efforts to kill immigration deal to help Trump.
The fight over an emerging border and foreign aid bill grew tense Thursday as the GOP split over whether to sink the deal to boost Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Jan. 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/immoral-republicans-rebuke-efforts-kill-immigration-deal-help-trump-rcna135732[/URL]

Debates? Biden has not ruled out any debates. Who told you that? You might want to sit down for this; Donald Trump hid in his basement to avoid debating Joe Biden in 2020 and ran for cover from every GOP primary debate even against an opponent he characterized as a "birdbrain" this very year.

What on earth would Trump talk about in a debate aside from rattling off one lie after another? The glorious future of Covfefe with him at the helm again?[/QUOTE]

Are you really suggesting that a Trumpster, who has concluded something as moronically and blitheringly nonsensical in their head, would believe [b]REAL[/b] and [b]ACTUAL[/b] evidential facts, over their [b][i]"gut feelings"[/i][/b]?

Are you really suggesting that a Trumpster, know WHAT IS a world best historic US economic boom, best historical jobs creation that has held [i]unemployment below 4% for the longest stretch in 50 years in American history[/i], best uptick in factories built and US manufacturing expansion in decades, world best growth in AI Tech & chips, national security recovery, created lower and affordable health care costs, [b]reduced violent and property crime down to 15% and 7% [/b](in 2023, 339/1830 per 100K) respectively, democratic alliance NATO expansion, brought the US back to respectability on the world-stage, are all just President Joe Biden's obvious shortcomings?

And no one should ignore these shortcomings, in favor of supporting a historic WORST and largest US national debt, [b]WORST violent and property crime [/b](in 2020, 393/1960 per 100K respectively), WORST economic and US border/national security results of all time, by a 2x impeached 4x indicted LOSER in Donald Trump, who's administration's greatest accomplishment is "Hunter Biden's laptop", "Hillary Clinton's emails", "Italian spy satellites hacking voting machines", a recorded national anthem by criminally jailed cop-killers J6 insurrectionists and deep-fake FBI informants (aka.Russian's "useful idiots"), have ALL been suckered and bamboozled into a pathetic state of astonishing misinformation and disinformation, by his beloved FOXY Muse? And the rest of the know world, has it all wrong?

That is so unfair!

(...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2901950]Nothing whatsoever to do with the people you think caused you so much angst in America.
Shh. Don't tell anyone. Just keep up that silly ranting about how you were victimized by Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden.[/QUOTE]LOL. I posted in real time all my great experiences in Mexico and Colombia during the pandemic on this website. I miss empty planes and no traffic. Where did you get that I was a victim and not women who got their hormone cycles fucked up by the vaccine nor children who were deprived of going to school from that video?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2902031]LOL. I posted in real time all my great experiences in Mexico and Colombia during the pandemic on this website. I miss empty planes and no traffic. Where did you get that I was a victim and not women who got their hormone cycles fucked up by the vaccine nor children who were deprived of going to school from that video?[/QUOTE]The fallout and long term ripple effects from Trump's Pandemic, the missed months and years in school, the side effects (if any) from the rushed vaccines, the millions of deaths, the massive jobs and business destruction, the collapsed global supply-chains, the Inflation, all of it happened everywhere on Planet Earth, even places who never heard a word uttered by Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden and were not responding in any way to any perceived "lie" you have imagined and are obsessed with.

Those places all around the world were dealing with and responding to the reality of Trump's Pandemic as it happened in their part of the world, closures, mask mandates, social distancing mandates, vaccine mandates and all.

You want to find a villians, perpetrators and liars to blame for all of that harm and fallout?

Here, let me help you with that:

[B]Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.[/B]

[B]Trump administration cut pandemic early warning program in September (2019).
Predict project wound down three months before outbreak.[/B]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus[/URL]

[B]Bob Woodward Was Stunned By What Trump Told Young Son Barron About Coronavirus.[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]TRUMP: "It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily.[/QUOTE]And don't fall for the John Bolton clean up attempt when he nit picked over Trump's disastrous decision to eliminate that Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention system contrary to all expert dire warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid as that. He didn't have to eliminate the "entire" team to do serious harm to it and the fact that some of them were transferred to the Pandemic "response" side is utterly and totally beside the point. They are playing you with word games.

Keeping Obama's Early Warning / Pandemic "Prevention" system in place was the point, in order to Prevent Trump's Pandemic from developing in the first place rather than merely leaving it to Trump to totally botch his response" to it, which he did.

Meanwhile, as far as Joe Biden's contribution to dealing with and responding to Trump's Pandemic and all of the disastrous fallout from it, you should only be praising the fact that HIS recovery from it has been and still is the Best and Strongest on Planet Earth.

Oh, and that very well might have been because he had Dr. Anthony Fauci in the USA to advise and contribute to that recovery while no other country did.

[B]U.S. Leads the World in Post-Pandemic Economic Recovery.[/B]

[URL]https://bearingdrift.com/2024/02/01/u-s-leads-the-world-in-post-pandemic-economic-recovery/[/URL]

Thanks, Joe, the Dems in Congress and Anthony.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2901350]Lie #10 is Democrats claiming there were no border problems. But yeah, how could Republicans be that stupid to be opposed to a border bill when there is such an issue with the border?

Oh, so that is why. Lie #11 Spidy is you are saying this is just a "border" bill as opposed to a spending bill with tens of billions on Ukrainian and Israeli aid.

So there is nothing to debate. It is just the same old Dems good, Republicans bad over and over, and when the facts show that is not the case, you lie and insult. Questner is right. There is no discussion of ideas.

The debate about the border bill is Biden wants money to be given to Ukraine free and clear and wants to attach said aid to the USA border. Trump wants Ukrainian aid to be a loan not a gift and is not willing to cede any border authority to Biden after he rescinded Trump's executive orders.

We are so used to you douches we can predict your response. Biden is a genius, and Trump is a moron. The end. And that is why we do not need to post. We already know what you are going to say. [/QUOTE]

I believe this was, already smartly explained to you in some detail, here:

[QUOTE=EihTooms;][b]The emprical evidence is now overwhelming and impossible to ignore.[/b]

Who are the Dems asserting there is no issue with the border?

After Obama-Biden handed Trump the lowest rate of illegal crossings in 50 years, [b]then Trump's policies and stewardship[/b] twice spiked up those illegal crossings to near record highs, then [b]Trump decimated the legal Immigration system[/b] just as he was getting kicked out of office, which created the years long delays in investigating and processing asylum-seekers before turning back and deporting the fakers as is required by the USA Constitution, one of the first moves Biden made when he took over in the midst of still another "Once in 100 Years" Repub Disaster that only happens under Repubs and during virtually every Repub Presidency, was to propose and submit a plan for comprehensive Immigration Reform.

It never got an iota of interest from enough Congressional Repubs to even consider it much less pass it with the required 60 seats in the Senate.

So then the fully bipartisan-negotiated Border Bill recently submitted for Pink Tinkle House approval was killed by Trump when he ordered them to leave the borders Open and a Mess now and into the future, possibly forever, so he can use the issue to get back into the WH ...
[/QUOTE]

But hey don't take it from us Dems, listen to your own Repub Chip Roy (R-TX), Who reiterates the same things, EihTooms, outlines in his post. He blames the border problems and failures, ALL on TRUMP! And rightly so!

I especially like this 1-minute video [i](presented by an Australian, no less, just for Tlito, FWIW)[/i], with Chip Roy, [b]slamming Trump[/b], for not getting the job done when he had the chance. Although, I think he doesn't know diddly, about his US conspiracies.

[b]Mar 12th, 2024:[/b] GOP failed to secure the US border: [b]Chip Roy[/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RftlSWHBMg[/URL]

And just so we're CLEAR, for good measure...more of good ol' Chip Roy, slamming Trump and reminding Repubs and Elvis 2008, that it was [i]"TRUMP, WHO FAILED TO SECURE THE BORDER"[/i]

[b]Dec 20th, 2023:[/b] [u]Chip Roy[/u] Fires Back at Trump: Failed to Secure Border
[URL]https://www.mediaite.com/politics/chip-roy-rips-trump-over-his-failure-to-secure-border-says-he-would-get-his-clock-cleaned-in-debate/[/URL]
[LIST][i]"President [b]Trump also failed to actually fully secure the border.[/b] If we'd gotten the policies in place, if he had worked with conservatives to get bills passed in [b]2018-19[/b], we wouldn't be in the mess were in right now." -- Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX)[/i][/LIST][u]So Elvis 2008, with w/r to Border Security:[/u]

-- EihTooms, told you it was [b]TRUMP![/b]
-- I, told you it was [b]TRUMP! [/b]
-- Repub Chip Roy, is telling you, it was [b]TRUMP![/b] When Repubs had all 3-branches of gov't.
-- All evidence put forth is telling you, it has been and was ALWAYS [b]TRUMP,[/b] as far back as 2018!
-- Border security and immigration, is clearly, [b]TRUMP's[/b] very own little PET PROJECT!

Dude, just take the [b]HINT[/b] already...[b]it was TRUMP![/b]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-has-failed-get-appeal-bond-454-mln-civil-fraud-judgment-lawyers-say-2024-03-18/[/URL]

No one wants touch his assets, according to his court filing today.

Guess he's not liquid after all.

[B]it's going to be a bloodbath for the country.[/B]

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2902224]
[B] Can't Secure bond[/b]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-has-failed-get-appeal-bond-454-mln-civil-fraud-judgment-lawyers-say-2024-03-18/[/URL]

No one wants touch his assets, according to his court filing today.

Guess he's not liquid after all.[/QUOTE]Maybe the reason Trump LOVES Open Borders so so so much is because somebody told him every new border crosser is prepared to donate a peso to his non-existant, fraudulent Trump Defense Fund. Meaning, directly into his pocket.

Obviously, somebody has convinced him that 100% Trump Tariff Tax on the American Consumer from Chinese imports he wants to impose on America again will also somehow land in his pocket too. LOL.

What a pathetic, blatantly obvious low rent con man that Trump dude is! LOL. Only the dumbest suckers on Earth could possibly keep falling for his bullshit.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2902228]
What a pathetic, blatantly obvious low rent con man that Trump dude is! LOL. Only the dumbest suckers on Earth could possibly keep falling for his bullshit.[/QUOTE]Yes and yes, and yet 70 millions of them live in this country.

Like you said it seems beyond the realm of possible that this primitive conman with his 2-bit schemes would be able to fool tens of millions of people. I mean compared to professional conmen this fruit of loom seems like a clumsy pathetic wannabe.

And yet, here we are!

70 millions can't all be "the dumbest", I'm afraid. There are other forces in play. Apparently, this daily thoughtless reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in American schools doesn't do shit. Perhaps a full-pledged, multi-year school program on why democracy is non-negotiable and why this country is so fortunate compared to so many others would do.

And, I dare say, may be some Constitutional amendments that would bolt the gate to any authoritarian or totalitarian trying to wheel themselves in the White House is in order.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2902160]
I especially like this 1-minute video [i](presented by an Australian, no less, just for Tlito, FWIW)[/i], with Chip Roy, [b]slamming Trump[/b], for not getting the job done when he had the chance. Although, I think he doesn't know diddly, about his US conspiracies.

[b]Mar 12th, 2024:[/b] GOP failed to secure the US border: [b]Chip Roy[/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RftlSWHBMg[/URL]

And just so we're CLEAR, for good measure...more of good ol' Chip Roy, slamming Trump and reminding Repubs and Elvis 2008, that it was [i]"TRUMP, WHO FAILED TO SECURE THE BORDER"[/i]

[b]Dec 20th, 2023:[/b] [u]Chip Roy[/u] Fires Back at Trump: Failed to Secure Border
[URL]https://www.mediaite.com/politics/chip-roy-rips-trump-over-his-failure-to-secure-border-says-he-would-get-his-clock-cleaned-in-debate/[/URL]
[LIST][i]"President [b]Trump also failed to actually fully secure the border.[/b] If we'd gotten the policies in place, if he had worked with conservatives to get bills passed in [b]2018-19[/b], we wouldn't be in the mess were in right now." -- Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX)[/i][/LIST][u]So Elvis 2008, with w/r to Border Security:[/u]

-- EihTooms, told you it was [b]TRUMP![/b]
-- I, told you it was [b]TRUMP! [/b]
-- Repub Chip Roy, is telling you, it was [b]TRUMP![/b] When Repubs had all 3-branches of gov't.
-- All evidence put forth is telling you, it has been and was ALWAYS [b]TRUMP,[/b] as far back as 2018!
-- Border security and immigration, is clearly, [b]TRUMP's[/b] very own little PET PROJECT!

Dude, just take the [b]HINT[/b] already...[b]it was TRUMP![/b][/QUOTE]And here you go lying again. It is all Chip Roy. Chip Roy is admitting the border mess is all Trump's fault.

Here is Chip Roy going off on the Biden administration on video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFyJPTm4Yh4[/URL].

And another post: [URL]https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-chip-roy-president-failing-fulfill-his-duty-defend-our-country[/URL].

Chip Roy was a Desantis supporter. Oops!

And then there was the lie you just told that Hunter Biden's laptop was Trump's fault. That had nothing to do with Trump. The issue with that was before the election was the intelligence agencies said the information on the laptop was Russian disinformation which was a lie.

And Joe Biden lied and said the laptop may not have belonged to Hunter.

And Hunter Biden lied and said the same thing.

And after that did not work, Hunter sued the shop which gave the FBI the laptop.

Instead of holding the tax payers funded intelligence agencies liable for lying, you go off on a rant about Fox News and disinformation.

And let's not forget what is in the laptop. It shows Hunter Biden fucking underage women, snorting cocaine, and showing payoffs not just to Hunter from China and Ukraine but to the "big guy", Joe Biden himself. And people should just ignore all that. What is on that laptop is a Trump plot.

And because you cannot defend that nor the insanity at the border, you have to lie about it.

So now we know what real disinformation is. Disinformation is telling the truth when Democrats are lying.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2902224][URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-has-failed-get-appeal-bond-454-mln-civil-fraud-judgment-lawyers-say-2024-03-18/[/URL]

No one wants touch his assets, according to his court filing today.

Guess he's not liquid after all.[/QUOTE]Let's say the last time you dummies cheered something on with Trump and that was banning him from Twitter: Trump, however, may again avoid disaster. CNN Business reported the day before Engoron released his decision that "Donald Trump just got the green light to return to Wall Street. ".

The Securities and Exchange Commission approved a merger between Trump Media & Technology Group and Digital World Acquisition Corp. , a blank-check company, which would allow the Trump media enterprise to be a publicly traded company.

A blank-check company is a "special purpose acquisition company" formed to raise funds via an initial public offering without identifying the precise use of the funds. It is publicly traded even though it does not have an established business plan or a designated potential merger opportunity.

Trump's stake in this merger could be worth $4 billion. That is enough capital to pay all the civil liability claims in the cases that have been decided and the cases that are pending.

Yeah, that was brilliant. You made Trump $4 billon richer.

You think the story here is that Trump is out of money. No, the story here is no financial company was willing to put up the bond because they would be liable for the verdict, and they all think the legal system in New York is that fucking crazy. Bond companies would stand to make a lot on issuance of the bond and if they thought the appeals courts would be reasonable and reduce the amount, which they usually do on crazy numbers like this, they would lend it, but they are not.

So what does that mean? It means no fucking way in hell New York is seeing that $454 million.

And the media does not want to let the cat out of the bag and show how impotent the prosecutor really is at this point. So she sends out a fellow prosecutor to make this video: [URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/18/glenn_kirschner_ny_ag_letitia_james_could_put_a_padlock_on_trump_tower_if_he_cant_pay_464_million_judgment.html[/URL].

Yeah, she could put a padlock on Trump Tower and we could have nuclear war too, and nuclear war is probably more likely. Putting a padlock on Trump tower means people cannot get into their homes, the businesses in the building go under, and all the employees get to file unemployment. So what this video is really saying is there is nothing she can do.

You wait on the Appeals Court and then it could go to the Supreme Court and that is going to take time. At this point, this court case has gone at lightning speed, and it has done so because it has nothing to do with the citizens of New York. It has to deal with rigging an election and so it probably will continue that way. We are used to corrupt Democratic judges and prosecutors trying to rig elections at this point, and it is not working.

Why is that the case? From Newsweek, If the Democrats want to prevail over Trump in 2024, they will have to find far better strategies than convincing half the country that they are weaponizing law enforcement to remove the de facto leader of the opposition in the manner of a threatened banana republic supremo.

That is what you guys do not get. At this point, people are just not voting for Trump. They are voting against a banana republic.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2902307]And here you go lying again. It is all Chip Roy. Chip Roy is admitting the border mess is all Trump's fault.

Here is Chip Roy going off on the Biden administration on video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFyJPTm4Yh4[/URL].

And another post: [URL]https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-chip-roy-president-failing-fulfill-his-duty-defend-our-country[/URL].

Chip Roy was a Desantis supporter. Oops!

And then there was the lie you just told that Hunter Biden's laptop was Trump's fault. That had nothing to do with Trump. The issue with that was before the election was the intelligence agencies said the information on the laptop was Russian disinformation which was a lie.

And Joe Biden lied and said the laptop may not have belonged to Hunter.

And Hunter Biden lied and said the same thing.

And after that did not work, Hunter sued the shop which gave the FBI the laptop.

Instead of holding the tax payers funded intelligence agencies liable for lying, you go off on a rant about Fox News and disinformation.[/QUOTE]Even a numbskull member of the Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Repub Pink Tinkle House like Chip Roy can sure rattle off a blizzard of words lickitty split when he wants to, huh? LOL.

Which continues to beg the question; why can't these Repubs muster enough energy and focus to, you know, produce at least one piece of legislation every, oh, let's say 100 years or so that actually produces historic gains and benefits for the American people, something as revered as dozens of such legislation proposed, fought for and passed by Dems, instead of just one horrific Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession, Great Repub Crash, Great Repub "Once in 100 Years Disaster", Massive Repub Jobs Destruction policy and stewardship result after another?

I mean, damn, you can see that Chip Roy idiot is full of energy, vim, vigor and purpose.

So why the hell don't Repubs ever put all that energy into producing something in their recent history that they can actually run on instead of relying on their benefactors in Mainstream Media to lie, twist and spin it in their favor and then still have to encite violent cop-attacking and cop-killing mobs of Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol to steal the votes they can't win on the merits?

Such a sad waste of good and important seats in the House, the Senate and that chair in the Oval Office.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2902267]Yes and yes, and yet 70 millions of them live in this country.

Like you said it seems beyond the realm of possible that this primitive conman with his 2-bit schemes would be able to fool tens of millions of people. I mean compared to professional conmen this fruit of loom seems like a clumsy pathetic wannabe.

And yet, here we are!

70 millions can't all be "the dumbest", I'm afraid. There are other forces in play. Apparently, this daily thoughtless reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in American schools doesn't do shit. Perhaps a full-pledged, multi-year school program on why democracy is non-negotiable and why this country is so fortunate compared to so many others would do.

And, I dare say, may be some Constitutional amendments that would bolt the gate to any authoritarian or totalitarian trying to wheel themselves in the White House is in order.[/QUOTE]I only count a small percentage of Trump / Repub Party voters as suckers who fall for Trump's obvious bullshit. The most violent among them, perhaps. The ones who wind up doing prison time for him and wonder, Gee, what was I thinking.

The vast majority of Repub Party voters want the historically crap results they produce. For them, it is not a "bug" in the Repub Party history of results. It is a "feature. " That is the result they want for America and why they vote for Repubs. And to that end, Donald J. Trump is the perfect Repub lord and savior because he is The Worst President of All Time Who Produced The Worst Results of All Time.

Repub Party voters love him for that. It isn't as though they didn't "see" the crap results he produced and csn't "see" Bidrn's far, far better, historically positive results. They see both very clearly. It is just that they hate Biden for producing those far superior results for America and love Trump for shitting all over the country the way he did and the way he promises to do again if only given the chance.

That has always been what most reasonable, well-meaning observers totally miss about the Repub Party. LOL. I get a kick out of how many times observers like that are "shocked" and "astonished" by some fresh new America-hating move by that Party's leadership and ranks. They have refused to see what is right there to be seen and understood about the Repub Party since at least Nixon. Even I failed to see it until about a year into Reagan's first term as so-called potus. Hell, I was even hanging onto a ridiculous, unfounded in the historical data "False Equivalency", "Bothsiderism" view of it as late as 1992!

I realized and accepted the shameful error of my ways after that. The historical and recent data, verifiable results and easily observable reality made it impossible to ignore after that.

Projection, hypocrisy and bullshit is that all you have on border security? Naturally, when you don't have the truth, you don't real facts and you don't have the rule of law...good ol' Elvis 2008, will try to [b]dazzle you with bullshit![/b]

Repubs, much like their cowardice of leader, Trump, continue to the fill the room with bullshit, "laptop dick pics" conspiracies and a penchant for utter nonsense.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2902307]And here you go lying again. It is all Chip Roy. [b]Chip Roy is admitting[/b] the border mess is all Trump's fault.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm glad you agree, unlike many other cowardly Repubs, Chip Roy isn't afraid to call out Trump and admit, TRUMP failed to secure the border.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2902307]Here is Chip Roy going off on the Biden administration on video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFyJPTm4Yh4[/URL].

And another post: [URL]https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-chip-roy-president-failing-fulfill-his-duty-defend-our-country[/URL] [/QUOTE]

Definitely a video that, IMHO simply shows good ol' Chip Roy (R-TX), simply being passionate about what was happening at the border [i](Note: Video is 1 year ago. My video is less than [b]1 month old[/b]).[/i]

But, what you failed to add in you post, was that Chip Roy was thoroughly and masterfully rebutted by Sect. DOH Alejandro Mayorkas (when he could get a word in edge wise), and reminding Mr. Roy (R-Tx) that many of the questions, he's asking existed back in 2016 to 2020, when Repubs had full control of these very same border issues.

I image after Sect. DOH Alejandro Mayorka, schooled Chip Roy, he did his due diligence and investigative homework and indeed found that during (2016 to 2020), the TRUMP administration was indeed to blame for the failure of the border, as he dutifully explains in the one (1) recent videos and article, I provided, dated Mar 12th, 2024 and Dec 20th, 2023, here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2902160&viewfull=1#post2902160 [/URL]

The most recent video and article I provide, definitely shows Chip Roy's updated border security world view, and without a doubt, [u]squarely places the blame on TRUMP! [/u]

Chip Roy may be "boisterous" and "passionate", but he's not lying. He's telling the truth. When Repubs had [b][u]ALL-3 Branches[/u] of Gov't and failed[/b] and couldn't pass anything on border security.

Put simply, Repubs, [b]"wet the bed"[/b] and did nothing, when they had ALL-3 Branches of Gov't, which is per for course, with Repubs.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2902307]Chip Roy was a Desantis supporter. Oops!

And then there was the lie you just told that Hunter Biden's laptop was Trump's fault. ...

And Joe Biden lied and said the laptop may not have belonged to Hunter. ... [/QUOTE]

As for your "laptop dick pics" conspiracy theories, have at it! Continue to make yourself a "useful idiot", in the laughing eyes of Russia!

So just keep throwing your right-wing bullshit conspiracies at the wall, hoping "something" will stick. 'Cause you know, even the sun shines up a dogs ass some days!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2902466]The vast majority of Repub Party voters want the historically crap results they produce. For them, it is not a "bug" in the Repub Party history of results. It is a "feature. " That is the result they want for America and why they vote for Repubs. And to that end, Donald J. Trump is the perfect Repub lord and savior because he is The Worst President of All Time Who Produced The Worst Results of All Time.

Repub Party voters love him for that. It isn't as though they didn't "see" the crap results he produced and csn't "see" Bidrn's far, far better, historically positive results. They see both very clearly. It is just that they hate Biden for producing those far superior results for America and love Trump for shitting all over the country the way he did and the way he promises to do again if only given the chance.
[/QUOTE]You'll get no argument, here!

However, in addition, I think there is a NEW prevailing notion on the RIGHT, however, that is no longer about getting better socio-economic historical positive results anymore. My fear, is that the real [B]"results"[/B], Repubs and wingers are after today, are far more ideological, sinister and insidious.

Something more along the lines of a [b]"blood bath"[/b] at worst, but at the very least, an ideological [B]disruption[/B] and [B]chaos,[/B] of democracy, the constitution and the country.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2902466]That has always been what most reasonable, well-meaning observers totally miss about the Repub Party. LOL. I get a kick out of how many times observers like that are "shocked" and "astonished" by some fresh new America-hating move by that Party's leadership and ranks. They have refused to see what is right there to be seen and understood about the Repub Party since at least Nixon. Even I failed to see it until about a year into Reagan's first term as so-called potus. Hell, I was even hanging onto a ridiculous, unfounded in the historical data "False Equivalency", "Bothsiderism" view of it as late as 1992!

I realized and accepted the shameful error of my ways after that. The historical and recent data, verifiable results and easily observable reality made it impossible to ignore after that.[/QUOTE]The overturn of Roe v Wade, was decades in the making, for those on the right. And with equally long-term focus, right-wing "initiatives" [B]like Project 2025[/B], that are steeped in chaos, are more akin to a "Handmaid's Tale" dystopian future, than your typical egalitarian democracy.

Right-wing Heritage Foundation, projects like Project 2025, seeks to disrupt and collapse many of our democratic institutions and re-imagined them into some authoritarian, fascist, gulag hellscape. Only this time it may not take decades and may arrive a lot sooner than we think, should democracy suffer in Nov 2024.

So on the right, we have Project 2025, "mob-boss" Trump, J6 insurrectionists, election deniers, the utter total collapse and gutting of the Repubs / GOP and the RNC party...what does it all mean?

Could it be smaller parts of a larger picture? Or simply to sow the seeds of chaos, all while steadfast in the "march and drum beat" towards "civil unrest" [b]or worst, "civil war"[/b], as the right (many times) have often claimed they want?

On the occasion of the 4 year anniversary of Donald Trump's SECOND Bear Market Crash in major indexes and the broad USA Stock Market in just his 4 miserable years as so-called potus, not allowing the pro Repub Mainstream Media to erase from voters' memory and the record books that first one under Trump in late 2018, not only has the S&P 500 Index closed at another record high of 5224 after seeing NO Recession and Bear Market Crash under Joe Biden contrary to the worst record on Stock Market and economic prognostications in history by Trump and his Repub Party that we would have both by now, but at the same time the actual, factual record on virtually all categories of Crime in America continues to show historic DECLINES under histotic job-creator and wage-improving Joe Biden after a horrific rise in them under Trump's Worst President of All Time policies and stewardship brought the world Trump's Pandemic:

[B]The U.S. crime rate is still dropping, FBI data shows.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/us-crime-rate-still-dropping-says-fbi-rcna144100[/URL]

[QUOTE]New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that crime is rising.

The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime. Thats based on data from around 13,000 law enforcement agencies, policing about 82% of the U.S. population, that provided the FBI with data through December.

"It suggests that when we get the final data in October, we will have seen likely the largest one-year decline in murder that has ever been recorded, said Jeff Asher, a former CIA analyst who now studies crime trends.

"After a terrible period of underfunding and understaffing caused by the pandemic, local governments have, by most measures, returned to pre-pandemic levels, wrote John Roman, a criminologist at the University of Chicago. In an interview, Roman said, The courts were closed, a lot of cops got sick, a lot of police agencies told their officers not to interact with the public. Teachers were not in schools, not working with kids."
[/QUOTE]Yes, Joe, thank you so much for what you and the Dems have done to recover America from the historic disaster of Trump's Classic Repub Economic and National Security Policies and Stewardship RESULTS virtually across the board in every meaningful way with scant to non existant assistance and contribution from Repubs who instead have been very busy bringing the country to the brink of more and more and more Repub CLOSURES to threaten the USA Economy and drooling over Hunter Biden's dick pics.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2902753]Naturally, when you don't have the truth, you don't real facts and you don't have the rule of law...good ol' Elvis 2008, will try to [b]dazzle you with bullshit![/b]

Repubs, much like their cowardice of leader, Trump, continue to the fill the room with bullshit, "laptop dick pics" conspiracies

As for your "laptop dick pics" conspiracy theories, have at it! Continue to make yourself a "useful idiot", in the laughing eyes of Russia!

So just keep throwing your right-wing bullshit conspiracies at the wall, hoping "something" will stick. 'Cause you know, even the sun shines up a dogs ass some days![/QUOTE]What does Russia have to do with the dick pics on Hunter Biden's laptop? You are the useful idiot for perpetuating that bullshit. I think the public has gotten use to the Saul Alinsky tactic of attacking your enemy where you are weak. The dummy who bought the conspiracy theory was you.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2902951]What does Russia have to do with the dick pics on Hunter Biden's laptop? You are the useful idiot for perpetuating that bullshit. I think the public has gotten use to the Saul Alinsky tactic of attacking your enemy where you are weak. The dummy who bought the conspiracy theory was you.[/QUOTE]

Newsweek (2021-Mar-19): [i]"Lively speculation surrounding a laptop allegedly belonging to President Joe Biden's son Hunter has resurfaced after a declassified report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence elicited fresh debates as to whether or not Russian interference came into play."[/i]

[i]Ex U.S. spies warned the Hunter Biden scandal had Russian fingerprints...[/i]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/former-us-spies-warned-2020-hunter-biden-scandal-russian-fingerprints-rcna140240[/URL]

[b]But the connection[/b] I can't figure out, Elvis 2008, is why hasn't any right-wing, sycophant billionaires, yet stepped up, to help pay the legal bills of your [i]"Loud and Save-ior Dumbass"?[/i]

[i]Trump campaign cash crunch: Small-dollar fatigue, major donor hesitation[/i]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/trump-campaign-cash-crunch-small-dollar-donor-fatigue-major-donor-nerves.html[/URL]
[LIST]Like really WTF, right-wing billionaires?
- Not Robert Mercer
- Not Elon Musk [i]("I'm not paying his legal bills in anyway shape or form" --The Don Lemon Show)[/i]
- Not Kevin O'Leary [i](completely avoided the queston when asked by Larry Kudlow on FOX Business)[/i]
- Not Jarred Cushner [i](Too busy buying up R/E in Eastern Europe?)[/i]
- Not Paul Singer
- Not Charles Koch
- Not Richard and Besty DeVos
- Not Foster Friess
- Not Sheldon Adelson [/LIST]Imagine that! I mean, the nerve of Trump (and others like Lindsey Graham [R-SC]), begging hard working, RNC conservative, right-wing, beloved "uneducated", Repub MAGA cult small member donors
to [i]"foot the bill"[/i] for his legal woes, all while these [i]"fat cat" billionaires,[/i] sit on the sidelines as richer Cheshire cat, grinning ingrates.

Is that gratitude or what, especially after those huge tax cuts to the rich, wealthy and big corporations, naturally leaving trillions added to the debt for working and middle class Americans to [i]"foot that debt bill"?[/i] So I guess it's not surprising at all, but rather "on point" for right-wing administrations, policies and billionaires?

So could it be, Donald J. Trump, is no longer [b]a "useful idiot"[/b] for the right-wing billionaire donor class? If so, what's up with that Elvis 2008?

Anywho, Elvis 2008, in the same vein of paying for Trump's legal bills, don't forget to make yourself a [b]"useful idiot"[/b] and [u][i]chip-in a few bucks[/i][/u] or simply [i]"donate" as much as you can[/i]. Or just buy a few dozen pairs of Trump's gold sneakers...wait, I think another BM mentioned, they maybe out of stock?

Better yet just re-tick that [b]"donate weekly"[/b] box on the "Save America" email Trump sent you, so he can automatically siphon off your account like he did with the pension savings accounts from his senior gullible donors. (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Spidy;2903001]Newsweek (2021-Mar-19): [i]"Lively speculation surrounding a laptop allegedly belonging to President Joe Biden's son Hunter has resurfaced after a declassified report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence elicited fresh debates as to whether or not Russian interference came into play."[/i]..[/QUOTE]And here we go again. This is dumb as Tooms calling me a victim. Well, at least you are not making things up. This just shows how soaked your brain is in MSMBC / Wapo / NYT / CNN bullshit.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/hunter-biden-admits-infamous-laptop-is-his-in-plea-for-probe/[/URL]

So much for "the laptop 'could be' mine."

First son Hunter Biden's lawyers admitted late Wednesday that the infamous laptop that the now-52-year-old abandoned at a Delaware computer repair shop in the throes of his crack cocaine addiction does indeed belong to him.

So the laptop being Russian disinformation was the conspiracy, and you fell for it just like you fell for Russiagate.

So the dick picks, the email about Joe Biden being the big guy, Hunter fucking underage women, and his smoking crack were all real.

In fact, polls show if the public knew the truth about the laptop, Trump wins in 2020. This whole Russian disinformation thing was orchestrated by Anthony Blinken, Biden's Secretary of State. He orchestrated this lie so Biden would win.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/05/01/antony-blinken-spies-who-lie-letter-wasnt-my-idea-didnt-ask-for-it-still-refuses-to-call-hunter-laptop-real/[/URL]

Then-candidate Joe Biden used the intelligence alumni letter to falsely claim at his second and final 2020 presidential debate with Donald Trump that The Post's reporting on his role in his family's international business dealings was a "Russian plant" and "garbage. "

"There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he's accusing me of is a Russian plant," Biden said. "Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani. "

So here you go dummy, proof the 2020 election was rigged.

And what will be your response to this? Admitting you are wrong? Saying, gosh, if Putin is really as bad as they say, why do Democrats have to lie about him so much? Outrage over the election being fixed by intelligence agencies?

Nah, it will be the same as always. Never mind. And then back to the personal insults.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2903001]Newsweek (2021-Mar-19): [i]"Lively speculation surrounding a laptop allegedly belonging to President Joe Biden's son Hunter has resurfaced after a declassified report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence elicited fresh debates as to whether or not Russian interference came into play."[/i]

[i]Ex U.S. spies warned the Hunter Biden scandal had Russian fingerprints...[/i]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/former-us-spies-warned-2020-hunter-biden-scandal-russian-fingerprints-rcna140240[/URL]

[b]But the connection[/b] I can't figure out, Elvis 2008, is why hasn't any right-wing, sycophant billionaires, yet stepped up, to help pay the legal bills of your [i]"Loud and Save-ior Dumbass"?[/i]

[i]Trump campaign cash crunch: Small-dollar fatigue, major donor hesitation[/i]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/trump-campaign-cash-crunch-small-dollar-donor-fatigue-major-donor-nerves.html[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Yeah, not even Trump's daughter / GF and his idiot big time real estate loser son-in-law Jared are willing to pay the gift tax to bail out that blithering old crook.

Hell, they were handed $3 Billion by the Saudis as soon as they fled from the Trump presidential Titanic.

I don't know how shitty a so-called "businessman" would have to be to lose so much equity on what he claimed was "$10 Billion" net worth and assets ten years ago that he can't even get his hands on less than half a billion dollar mortgage loan today. LOL.

Damn. My little no brainer Southern California rental property gained some 68% over the past 10 years and that was despite Trump's Pandemic flattening the curve on appreciation for at least 2 of those years. That created tons and tons of equity I could get a mortgage loan on before I opened the door of a bank to apply for one.

And that happened while I was spending mist of my time enjoying fucking and getting blown by cute Asian girls ALLLL the way on the other side of the globe, not even wheeling and dealing fraudulent scams in the White House solely to enrich myself! LOL. What a total fuck up that Trump dude is.

It's official, the House MAGA Repubs (and resident ISG Repub conspiracists), are nothing more than Russia's [b]"useful idiots"![/b]

Mr. Lev Parnas, a Ukrainian American businessman, ex-insider and ex-confidence man for Trump and Giuliani, testified at the House Oversight Committee's Biden Impeachment hearings, Mar 20th, 2024, to tell the truth, about the origins of the disinformation and so called [i]"evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors"[/i] against the Bidens.

Lev, was sent to the Ukraine, by Trump and Giuliani, to [i][b]"dig up dirt"[/b][/i] on the pretense that the Bidens were involved in "shady/corrupt" dealings with Birisma. But naturally, Mr. Parnas, came back empty handed and could find nothing, that could be substantiated as facts. But Giuliani, persisted with the pretense and used the information anyways.

He testified to the fact that Russia and Russian agents, were indeed the "root evil" cause, behind the disinformation and false evidence of impeachment, being pushed by the Repubs. And that the Repubs, [b][u]knowingly[/u] pushed the disinformation to FOXY Muse[/b], without it being verified or validated by any credible sources.
[LIST] Mr. Parnas, testifies that Trump and Giuliani, knowingly lied to Americans:
> [b]Mr. Lev Parnas:[/b][i] "...I say this to you, because I love my country. From shortly after my arrest on Oct 9th, 2019 up until now, I've been trying to share irrefutable truth to you. The
[b]American people, have been lied to by Donald Trump, Rudi Giuliani[/b] and various cohorts and individuals in gov't and media positions."[/i]

> [b]Mr. Lev Parnas:[/b][i] "The only information pushed on the Biden's and Ukraine, has come from one source and one source ONLY. [b]Russia and Russian Agents![/b] The impeachment proceeding that brings us here now, [u]is predicated on false information, spread by the Kremlin."[/u][/i]

> [b]Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD):[/b][i] "At what point did the [Trump/Repub] campaign to [b]'dig up dirt'[/b] on Biden, become a campaign to spread disinformation and lies about Biden?"[/i]

> [b]Mr. Lev Parnas:[/b][i] "At some point, when we hit a few brick walls, all of a sudden, then I saw the shift, between the BLT (??) group, which included John Solomon (the media personality) and Rudi Giuliani and other Trump lawyers, to start trying to push narratives, that were never validated, [and] we had no way to validate them."

"Basically, a letter would come over from someone in the Ukraine, I'd hand it over to John Solomon. Next thing you know, he'd be on FOX TV, 2-hrs later with Sean Hannity."[/i]

NBC NEWS: [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/lev-parnas-ex-giuliani-associate-testifies-allegations-bidens-are-fals-rcna144250[/URL][/LIST]Once again, it appears our resident ISG Repub [i]"Hunter Biden laptop dick pic"[/i] conspiracist and the House Repubs, prove themselves to be nothing more that gullible, but "useful idiots" for pushing mother Russia's disinformation and divisive propaganda.

Oh and yes...the answer to all the Elvis 2008, silly [i]"Hunter Biden laptop dick pic",[/i] questions...[b]is still TRUMP![/b]

Thanks Mr. Lev Parnas, for [b]AGAIN proving...TRUMP[/b], is at the very center and the answer, to yet another Elvis 2008, questions/conspiracies!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2903012]And here we go again. This is dumb as Tooms calling me a victim. Well, at least you are not making things up. This just shows how soaked your brain is in MSMBC / Wapo / NYT / CNN bullshit.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/hunter-biden-admits-infamous-laptop-is-his-in-plea-for-probe/[/URL]

So much for "the laptop 'could be' mine."

First son Hunter Biden's lawyers admitted late Wednesday that the infamous laptop that the now-52-year-old abandoned at a Delaware computer repair shop in the throes of his crack cocaine addiction does indeed belong to him.

So the laptop being Russian disinformation was the conspiracy, and you fell for it just like you fell for Russiagate.

So the dick picks, the email about Joe Biden being the big guy, Hunter fucking underage women, and his smoking crack were all real.

In fact, polls show if the public knew the truth about the laptop, Trump wins in 2020. This whole Russian disinformation thing was orchestrated by Anthony Blinken, Biden's Secretary of State. He orchestrated this lie so Biden would win.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/05/01/antony-blinken-spies-who-lie-letter-wasnt-my-idea-didnt-ask-for-it-still-refuses-to-call-hunter-laptop-real/[/URL]

Then-candidate Joe Biden used the intelligence alumni letter to falsely claim at his second and final 2020 presidential debate with Donald Trump that The Post's reporting on his role in his family's international business dealings was a "Russian plant" and "garbage. "

"There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he's accusing me of is a Russian plant," Biden said. "Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani. "

So here you go dummy, proof the 2020 election was rigged.

And what will be your response to this? Admitting you are wrong? Saying, gosh, if Putin is really as bad as they say, why do Democrats have to lie about him so much? Outrage over the election being fixed by intelligence agencies?

Nah, it will be the same as always. Never mind. And then back to the personal insults.[/QUOTE]There is no evidence in that laptop, under, over, around or behind Hunter's coveted (by Repubs) dick pics or in fact on any other laptop, desk top, official notes, post-its, memos or smoke signals connecting Joe Biden with any wrongdoing, much less a high crime or misdemeanor.

You'll just have to find something else to feel victimized by. Select from any number of imaginary outrages Donald J. Trump whines and cries about on an hourly basis if you can't conjure up any on your own.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2903093] [b]Mr. Lev Parnas:[/b] "At some point, when we hit a few brick walls, all of a sudden, then I saw the shift, between the BLT (??) group, which included John Solomon (the media personality) and Rudi Giuliani and other Trump lawyers, to start trying to push narratives, that were never validated, and we had no way to validate them."[/QUOTE]Not that it matters to your expose, but the "BLT group" is a bunch of low-life Trump co-conspirators who got together at the BLT restaurant in his DC hotel.

[URL]https://themoscowproject.org/dispatch/the-blt-team-at-the-center-of-trumps-extortion-scheme-is-linked-to-nunes-why-hasnt-he-recused-himself-from-the-investigation/index.html[/URL]

Was Carlson still there for this?

[B]Tucker Carlson: Moscow so much nicer than any city in my country
2/13/24[/B] [URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4465352-tucker-carlson-moscow-putin/[/URL].

[B]Moscow concert attack live updates: More than 60 reported dead; ISIS claims responsibility.
3/23/24[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-moscow-concert-attack-shooting-rcna144706[/URL]

I hear Carlson followed up those glowing travel reviews of Putin's facade with praises for Netanyahu's "highly effective security wall", the "perfect timing" of all those numbskulls who moved from Blue states to Red states right before Red states began outlawing Sex For Pleasure and a special 4 year anniversary celebration of when Trump had totally ignored all expert dire warnings to prepare for a potential Pandemic along with the guidelines and tools to do it for at least a year as a means for him to finally create Trump's Pandemic:

[B]Trump says 'nobody' could've predicted a pandemic like coronavirus. Here are all the times he was warned about it and refused to take action.
March 31, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-all-the-times-trump-was-warned-about-pandemic-2020-3[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump has frequently insisted that "nobody" could have seen the coronavirus outbreak coming and that it "came out of nowhere."

The pandemic's scope and severity are unlike anything the global community has grappled with in decades.

But the president was warned urgently and repeatedly of this scenario, and his claim that it "came out of nowhere" and could not have been predicted is patently false.

US officials conducted training exercises last year simulating the exact scenario that's currently playing out, but their warnings went unheeded. Intelligence officials were also warning Trump about a pandemic as early as January, but they "couldn't get him to do anything about it."

The Trump administration declined to use an Obama-era playbook instructing federal officials on how to prepare for a pandemic.

And the president has spent the last two years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling such an outbreak.[/QUOTE]

Anybody here remember the Muller Report? Anybody here that actually read it, or only the fake synopsis by Trump Attorney General and Trump.

Protector at that time, William Barr, who has since denounced him? And much of the report was redacted. Yeah, Muller made weak responses to congress, but the report published was comprehensive and did NOT exonerate Trump, as Muller has said.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2903273]
[B]Muller Report [/b]
Anybody here remember the Muller Report? Anybody here that actually read it, or only the fake synopsis by Trump Attorney General and Trump.

Protector at that time, William Barr, who has since denounced him? And much of the report was redacted. Yeah, Muller made weak responses to congress, but the report published was comprehensive and did NOT exonerate Trump, as Muller has said.[/QUOTE]Of course, the world will never forget it.

It was another not so puzzling instance where whatever DOJ or Congress is in session at the time it is decided a Repub should be appointed Special Council to investigate another Repub.

But, oh don't worry about any possible favoritism, downplaying or bias in that. Just to show you how fairly "Bothsider" the entire system is, they will ALSO assign a Repub to investigate any Dem suspected of wrongdoing.

Lolololol. Rigged in favor of Repubs much?

Well, anyway, try as he might not too, Repub Mueller still found and cited at least 10 criminally indictable acts committed by Trump with the qualifier that he wasn't going to indict Trump for those obvious crimes because, you know, another Repub administration DOJ once upon a time scratched out a memo in crayon that a sitting potus should not be indicted for a crime.

So he strongly suggested Congress set about its duty to Impeach him for those crimes and then let The Law proceed with indictments of him after he gets his ass put out of the White House.

That was way way way back in olden times when Team Trump and the Repub Majority Leader in the Senate understood and bluntly stated that a former potus could and should absolutely be indicted for crimes he committed as potus. Ancient history in the minds of the MAGA now, if you can call whatever they have in their skulls minds.

LOL. I remember the immediate victory lap Trump took when his Repub AG Barr lied his ass off about what the Mueller Report actually reported, basking in the glow of "he found no Collusion"! Uh. Mueller clearly stated he wasn't even looking for "collusion" exactly since there is no law against it anyway. But, of course, it was Team Trump's deep and intense collusion with Russia that made it impossible for the FBI to ignore it and avoid investigating it without being accused of utter dereliction of their duty to protect the American people from a probable Russian Asset and virulent America-hating Insurrectionist sitting right there in The Oval Office a tiny percentage of the time and at his failed golf resorts the rest of the time.

And, clearly, they were 100% on the right track about that.

Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-WI), promptly calls it quits and resigns from the "Repub House Clown Show", and follows "the parted Red Sea", left by Rep. Joe Buck (R-CO) and will be walking out the doors, come April, 19th, 2024.

So if Gallagher, leaves on April 19th, it means, there is no special election and the Repubs can't get his seat back. Does seem like Mike Gallagher, is giving Trump and the MAGA House Repubs, the "middle figure" on his way out the door?

[b]GOP Rep. Mike Gallagher To Resign Early From House - HuffPost[/b]
[URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-gallagher-wisconsin-republican-gop_n_65fdc840e4b01d7420add61a?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003[/URL]

George Desantos, Joe Buck and now Mike Gallagher...next up?

Right about now, one the greatest songs by Rock and Roll Legends, [b]Queen[/b], does come to mind, at a time like this? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqyUAtzS_6M[/URL]

Anywho, what with MTG, looking to oust yet another speaker from the House, in christo-fascist Mike Johnson, the Repubs fall, into further disarray and dysfunction. And if the trend continues, it shouldn't be long before the Dems retake the House, much less Repubs garner a "cohesive" majority to pass more silly votes for "impeachment", [b]just to please their idolater.[/b]


[QUOTE=Xpartan;2903204]Not that it matters to your expose, but the "BLT group" is a bunch of low-life Trump co-conspirators who got together at the BLT restaurant in his DC hotel.

[URL]https://themoscowproject.org/dispatch/the-blt-team-at-the-center-of-trumps-extortion-scheme-is-linked-to-nunes-why-hasnt-he-recused-himself-from-the-investigation/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks, much appreciated!

That article was very informative and definitely help filled in a few blanks w/r to Mr. Parnas testimony.

I do like your apt "BLT" description though, [i]"...is a [b]b[/b]unch of [b]l[/b]ow-life [b]T[/b]rump[sters] co-conspirators..." [/i]. Very apropos, even if was unintentional!

When I have repeatedly characterized the RealClearPolitics polling service site as "demonstrably Winger-Leaning", this is what I am referring to:

As of this writing, the RCP Poll of Polls Consensus for Trump vs Biden has Trump ahead by 1. 7 points. Yes, that is less than half of a normal +/-MoE for most polls, which means it is considered a statistical tie. But this is where it sat all weekend, giving the pundits on the Sunday political shows fodder to praise Trump's lead and slam Biden for being behind.

So where were these three latest polls from Morning Consult and You. Gov showing Biden ahead of Trump on all three of them and all three of them posted on the 538 Polling site by Sunday but none of them showing up on RCP in time to be factored into their Poll of Polls Consensus yet?

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/[/URL]

See:

Polls ending March 23,2024.

Morning Consult.

March 19-21.

Morning Consult.

March 16-19.

You. Gov.

None of those three polls made it to that RCP Poll of Polls Consensus for Trump vs Biden in time for the Sunday political programs, yet Morning Consult and You. Gov routinely appear on that RCP site. If I didn't know better, why I might conclude RCP is holding back those three polls showing Biden ahead of Trump until they can get their hands on another Rasmussen, Emerson or Harris Poll that can run in to save the day for them keeping Trump ahead of Biden for those Sunday political shows to feast on. LOL.

Meanwhile, even without those three frequently cited polls now showing Biden ahead of Trump, that slim 1. 7 point advantage for Trump over Biden would not exist without them including that Selzer Poll showing Trump up 7 points over Biden. Whatever the hell a Selzer Poll is. I had to scroll back more than 5 months to see another Selzer Poll in an RCP Trump vs Biden Consensus. So apparently they trot one of those oddball polls out of nowhere whenever their beloved fellow Winger-Leaning Rasmussen, Emerson or Harris polls are not available to save the day for them.

[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden[/URL]

LOL. This is the unavoidable and inarguable "But The Emperor is Naked" truth in direct opposition to the general poll assertions that seems to finally come up during every Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs destruction and, as now, every Great Dem Economic Recovery, Great Dem Economic Expansion and Great Dem Jobs Creation.

But but but the Repubs' bullshit pitch that their methods of cutting or ignoring regulations and cutting taxes so everything is FREE and America will be a Deadbeat's Paradice sounds so sweet, doesn't it? LOL. Sure, poll respondents are more likely as not to fall for that bullshit even in the face of every Repub effort towards that end results in the worst economic conditions in history and NONE of the boom times.

[B]Democrats Are Better for the US Economy.
Even those who believe that Democrats, by and large, pursue better economic policies than Republicans have a hard time explaining why the US economy performs so significantly and consistently better under Democratic presidents. But the figures speak for themselves.
March 25, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/us-economic-performance-consistently-better-under-democratic-presidents-by-jeffrey-frankel-2024-03[/URL]

BTW, this dude doesn't even mention the historically dramatically superior USA Stock Market gains under Dems like Joe Biden vs Repubs.

Just ask Trump how that feels right about now.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2903936]When I have repeatedly characterized the RealClearPolitics polling service site as "demonstrably Winger-Leaning", this is what I am referring to:

As of this writing, the RCP Poll of Polls Consensus for Trump vs Biden has Trump ahead by 1. 7 points. Yes, that is less than half of a normal +/-MoE for most polls, which means it is considered a statistical tie. But this is where it sat all weekend, giving the pundits on the Sunday political shows fodder to praise Trump's lead and slam Biden for being behind.[/QUOTE]

That's some pretty damn good investigative work.

Your assessment of the RealClearPolitics, now being more of a right-wing leaning site, does track, with a 2020 study and an NYT Article, [i]"A Popular Political Site Made a Sharp Right Turn. What Steered It?"[/i]

[QUOTE=Wiki] According to a 2020 Knight Foundation study, RealClearPolitics is generally read by a moderate audience, leaning slightly toward the right.

Since 2020, the content of the site has [u]moved further towards right-leaning politics[/u], coinciding with its increasing [b]funding by [u]right-wing donors[/u] supporting Republican cause.[/b]

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics[/URL][/QUOTE]

It's definitely, a very good peek into the world of polls and how they operate. You highlight some of the crafty, manipulative and artful machinations employed to that skew results. Which is probably why, I don't give polling a lot of credence and treat them with a rather large "pinch of salt".

But, by all accounts, RealClearPolitics, looks to be, just another propaganda outlet, of the Repub Party.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/03/no-one-is-above-the-law-that-means-a-trump-doj-must-indict-joe-biden/[/URL]

Sounds like they are considering the return of Our Lord and Savior a foregone conclusion! (like everyone else with a brain lololol).

Allahu Akbar!!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2904173]LOL. This is the unavoidable and inarguable "But The Emperor is Naked" truth in direct opposition to the general poll assertions that seems to finally come up during every Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs destruction and, as now, every Great Dem Economic Recovery, Great Dem Economic Expansion and Great Dem Jobs Creation.

But but but the Repubs' bullshit pitch that their methods of cutting or ignoring regulations and cutting taxes so everything is FREE and America will be a Deadbeat's Paradice sounds so sweet, doesn't it? LOL. Sure, poll respondents are more likely as not to fall for that bullshit even in the face of every Repub effort towards that end results in the worst economic conditions in history and NONE of the boom times.

[B]Democrats Are Better for the US Economy.
Even those who believe that Democrats, by and large, pursue better economic policies than Republicans have a hard time explaining why the US economy performs so significantly and consistently better under Democratic presidents. But the figures speak for themselves.
March 25, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/us-economic-performance-consistently-better-under-democratic-presidents-by-jeffrey-frankel-2024-03[/URL]

BTW, this dude doesn't even mention the historically dramatically superior USA Stock Market gains under Dems like Joe Biden vs Repubs.

Just ask Trump how that feels right about now.[/QUOTE]Excellent Article!

The article thoroughly, puts to bed, yet another "big lie" Repubs love to throw out there, when it comes to the economy.

Definitely a keeper and a great article, to trotting out, for those special moments when you need to [i]"shut up"[/i] Repubs, when they're blathering on about their [B]so called "economic success/record."[/B]

Nice find, that perfectly mirrors, what you've been telling, so called Rebup ISG economist infidels, about the part 100 years of US economic history.

Well done!

What a week of cry baby billionaires, from Trump, Kevin O'Leary to Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF), disgustingly claim "victimhood" as they decry, there were [b]"no victims"[/b] in their fraudulent crimes. Bemoaning how the public has no idea, how hard it is, to defraud people and make it look like a "victimless" crime. Not to mention, how [b]"unfair"[/b] they've all been being treated...boo-hoo!

Poodle billionaire and Trump lapdog, Kevin O'Leary, was blustering and blathering on about Trumps flagrantly and gross R/E "over-evaluation" tax dodge, seen as characterizing this criminal behavior as a victimless crime and [b]proudly[/b] states, [i]"...everything you've just listed off, is done by every R/E developer, everywhere on earth, in every city, this is never ever been prosecuted..."[/i]

O'Leary's billionaire arrogance, prompted Jon Stewart, to do a pretty funny comedic bit, saying:
[QUOTE=Jon Stewart] "...I'm surprised to hear he's so chill about overvaluing something that he thinks is victimless, because when someone tries to do that to him..."[/QUOTE]

Queue the Montage of O'Leary being outraged by contestants overvaluing their businesses on Shark Tank, here: [URL]https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=480 [/URL]

Then rips O'Leary a new one:
[QUOTE=Jon Stewart] "There is a theory in law that, if enough people commit a crime, it automatically becomes legal. You're familiar with [b]The Purge[/b], are you not?" [/QUOTE]

Stewart finishes with:
[QUOTE=Jon Stewart] "I'll guarantee you there aren't just financial consequences for those lies, but criminal ones. But, don't tell that to the investment community, because in their minds, in pursuit of profit, there is no rule that cannot be bent, there is no principle that cannot be undercut, [b]as long as you and your f---ing friends are making money.[/b]" [/QUOTE]

O'Leary Comedic Bit: [URL]https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=480 [/URL]
TDS entire Trump Fraud Comedic Bit: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMinX6t1Zk [/URL]
News Article and Video: [URL]https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-slams-shark-tank-142735020.html [/URL]

Then, FTX founder SBF, sentenced to 25 years in prison, shows no remorse, and clings to "victimless" claims of his fraudulent crimes. Judge Lewis Kaplan, slams SBF's speech as the worst "self-incriminating" testimony he's seen in his 30 years of his judgeship. Axios: [URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/03/28/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-prison-sentence[/URL]

Yeah, the fraudulent steal of billions of dollars from tax payers and crypto customers, is ALWAYS victimless AND NEVER a fraudulent crime, in the eyes of entitled billionaire class. But the theft of a less than $30 dollar item at a Walgreens and they demand, the perp to be shot on site.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2904711]What a week of cry baby billionaires, from Trump, Kevin O'Leary to Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF), disgustingly claim "victimhood" as they decry, there were [b]"no victims"[/b] in their fraudulent crimes. Bemoaning how the public has no idea, how hard it is, to defraud people and make it look like a "victimless" crime. Not to mention, how [b]"unfair"[/b] they've all been being treated...boo-hoo!

Poodle billionaire and Trump lapdog, Kevin O'Leary, was blustering and blathering on about Trumps flagrantly and gross R/E "over-evaluation" tax dodge, seen as characterizing this criminal behavior as a victimless crime and [b]proudly[/b] states, [i]"...everything you've just listed off, is done by every R/E developer, everywhere on earth, in every city, this is never ever been prosecuted..."[/i]

O'Leary's billionaire arrogance, prompted Jon Stewart, to do a pretty funny comedic bit, saying:


Queue the Montage of O'Leary being outraged by contestants overvaluing their businesses on Shark Tank, here: [URL]https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=480 [/URL]

Then rips O'Leary a new one:


Stewart finishes with:


O'Leary Comedic Bit: [URL]https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=480 [/URL]
TDS entire Trump Fraud Comedic Bit: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMinX6t1Zk [/URL]
News Article and Video: [URL]https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-slams-shark-tank-142735020.html [/URL]

Then, FTX founder SBF, sentenced to 25 years in prison, shows no remorse, and clings to "victimless" claims of his fraudulent crimes. Judge Lewis Kaplan, slams SBF's speech as the worst "self-incriminating" testimony he's seen in his 30 years of his judgeship. Axios: [URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/03/28/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-prison-sentence[/URL]

Yeah, the fraudulent steal of billions of dollars from tax payers and crypto customers, is ALWAYS victimless AND NEVER a fraudulent crime, in the eyes of entitled billionaire class. But the theft of a less than $30 dollar item at a Walgreens and they demand, the perp to be shot on site.[/QUOTE]If "every Real Estate developer, everywhere on earth" triples the actual size of their properties on legal documents as Trump did then the earth is a much, much smaller planet than those Real Estate developer liars have conned us into believing.

Would those Real Estate developers accept it and just move on if we only paid them 33% of the negotiated, settled and contracted price for their properties?

Somebody tell Trump he has already wasted three terms as a so-called potus, one more than the current Constitutional limit and three times the number he actually wasted and see if he'll finally go away and haunt some other country.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2904868][b]The Largest Inauguration Audience Ever! Part Infinity[/b]

If "every Real Estate developer, everywhere on earth" triples the actual size of their properties on legal documents as Trump did then the earth is a much, much smaller planet than those Real Estate developer liars have conned us into believing.

Would those Real Estate developers accept it and just move on if we only paid them 33% of the negotiated, settled and contracted price for their properties?

Somebody tell Trump he has already wasted three terms as a so-called potus, one more than the current Constitutional limit and three times the number he actually wasted and see if he'll finally go away and haunt some other country. [/QUOTE]

Yes, all epic Trump lies! Much like his tawdry quip, about ONLY being, "a dictator on day one (1)".

This comes on the heels of his Trumps recent cheat, as he brags about winning two tournaments (nudge, nudge, wink, wink), at his own club. Which did remind me, of the book by author Rick Reilly (a golfer who's covered the game for over 40 years), and how Trump got the dubious name "Commander in Cheat".

In a pretty accurate depiction of ex-President lying, cheating and fudging his golf game to win, by any and all means, Mr. Reilly, tells us, how Trump's golf game, mirrors the ex-President's real life crooked shenanigans, grifting, dishonesty, fraudulent behavior and lies at any cost, to win.

[b]In a interview with Deadline White House (Mar 26th, 2024):[/b]
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/sports/congrats-donald-notorious-golf-cheater-brags-he-won-two-tournaments-at-his-own-club/vi-BB1kAeeZ[/URL]

[QUOTE] "Nicole, I've always said, golf is like bicycle shorts...it reveals a lot about a guy"[/QUOTE]

Rick Reilly, referring to Trump's cheating and not being about to accept losing:
[QUOTE] "Trump doesn't just cheat at golf. He cheats like a 3-card monte dealer. He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies, He fudges, and foozles and fluffs."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] I dont know much about politics, but I know golf and it really offended me, not as a voter or as a citizen just as a golfer. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] "...he took seven mulligans and a "Gimme Chip-in", I've never even heard of "Gimme Chip-in"[/QUOTE]

Deadline WH, [b]GREAT[/b] 1st interview w/Rick Reilly, on Trump, the Commander in Cheat (Apr 2nd, 2019):
[URL]https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/donald-trump-the-cheater-in-chief-1470201923662[/URL]

[QUOTE] You might be thinking, What does golf have to do with being president? What does it matter that he cheats at it? What's it got to do with leading the country? [b]Everything[/b]

If you'll cheat to win at golf, [u]is it that much further [b]to cheat[/b] to win an election?[/u] To turn a Congressional vote? To Stop an investigation? ... [/QUOTE]

It was said the great golfer, Arnold Palmer, first had a round of golf, to know all he wanted to know about a prospective business partner, before he got into business. Maybe Repubs should use this a their new vetting tool?

If Trump, becomes "dictator for a day", I wonder if the number of "holes-in-one", he'll claim, will beat that of Kim Jong-il, the former leader of North Korea, who reportedly shot, [i]"11 holes-in-one in a single round"[/i], during his [b]first ever golf game[/b] at the Pyongyang Golf Course in 1994. (...is it any wonder why, Trump loves dictators ...kkkk!)

Brian Pritchard, in the state of Georgia, the Republican first vice-chairman, claimed that the 2020 election was plagued with voter fraud.

He knew this to be true, because typical of Repub cheaters (just like his "savior" Trump), he was projecting and committing voter fraud, himself. The very thing he was accusing the opposition Dems of doing, he was violating in spades.

But this guy went to the extremes and committed voter fraud 9x times. Brian Pritchard, knowingly committed voter fraud and voted nine (9x) times, [u]while on probation for felony check forgery sentence[/u] and [b]ONLY got a $5,000 fine[/b] and receive a [b]public reprimand.[/b]

[b]Mar 29th, 2024[/b] A Republican official claimed that the 2020 election was plagued with voter fraud. Now a judge has ruled that he voted illegally 9 times. [url]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republican-voter-fraud-brian-pritchard-georgia-b2520675.html[/url]

I guess when the "penalty bar" for Repubs, committing voter fraud 9x times, is this low, it's no wonder, they don't hesitate to commit such felonies and are the ones caught doing the wide majority of ACTUAL voter fraud.

Otherwise, what a Classic Repub like Trump would call a "cesspool":

[B]Today's jobs report shows economy added booming 303K jobs in March, unemployment at 3.8%.
April 5, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/04/05/march-jobs-report-numbers/73203899007/[/URL]

[QUOTE] Payroll gains for January and February were revised up by a total 22,000, portraying an even more robust picture of job growth early this year. January's were bumped up from 229,000 to 256,000 while February's were downgraded modestly, from 275,000 to 270,000.

The blockbuster report bolsters the view that the economy is on track for a "soft landing," a scenario in which the Federal Reserve wrestles down inflation without triggering a recession. But the resilient labor market could prompt the Fed to push interest rate cuts to later in the year to ensure inflation is subdued before acting, economists say.
.....
Many Americans, meanwhile, are benefitting because typical pay increases have topped inflation the past year, giving them more purchasing power.
.....
But Goldman Sachs believes a huge influx of immigrants will continue to boost the labor supply and juice hiring this year, noting the number of job openings is still well above the pre-crisis mark. Last month, immigration could have lifted job growth by as much as 50,000 to 290,000, Goldman said.
[/QUOTE]Oh and why not complete this totally verifiable and substantiated unprecedented Peace and Prosperty reality for America unlike anywhere else on the Planet post-Trump's Pandemic by citing the fact that no American troops have been actively involved in any war anywhere for the past 3 historically positive years under President Joe Biden.

Still, Repub Party leadership, rank and file members and voters are pining for the days when their beloved Repub so-called potuses searched for and embraced any and every "Once in 100 Years" economic and / or national security disaster to plunge us into another and another and another Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and Great Repub Stock Market Crash in order to "feel" that MAGA is really producing the Repub Party results it was born to produce over and over and over and over again whenever the American electorate is sucker, foolish and careless enough to give them the slightest opportunity and leverage to do it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2906567]Otherwise, what a Classic Repub like Trump would call a "cesspool":

[B]Today's jobs report shows economy added booming 303K jobs in March, unemployment at 3.8%.
April 5, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/04/05/march-jobs-report-numbers/73203899007/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Watch Fox News Panic On-Air Over the [b]Great Jobs Report[/b]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-fox-news-panic-air-202120449.html[/URL]

And it's always hilariously entertaining, to see FOXY Muse, stumble all over themselves, flummoxed for an explanation, other than the real one, of [b]"It's just a really GREAT JOB and ECONOMIC report."[/b]

Special Counsel Jack Smith, essentially tells the dithering Judge Cannon, to [b]"shit or get off the pot"[/b], in the Mar-a-Lago Documents Case.

Judge Aileen Cannon, seems hell bent on assisting Trump, with an acquittal, by using a political ploy, disguised as a judicial legal strategy. As she delays and dithers in the case proceedings, with her bizarre jury instruction direction orders, to both legal counsels, when no trail date or jury as been selected.

Needless to say, Jack Smith, has had enough and is likely to force her hand, if she doesn't rule, he may bring a [b]writ of mandamus[/b] against the judge, with the 11th Circuit Appellate courts. If successful, this would be the dithering judge's 3rd time of being "slapped down" by the 11th Circuit Appellate courts and in all likelihood, removed from the case, for her blatant partisan judgements and rulings.

To his credit, Trump is playing Jack Smith and Judge Aileen Cannon as political players and perhaps to a greater extent, on the judicial landscape, that extends all the way to the very top, with a partisan right-wing SCOTUS, that no longer follow the rule of law, but a political ideology.

[QUOTE] The Trump-appointed judge is on the verge of being appealed in the former presidents classified documents case. Shes apparently contemplating a Trumpian fringe legal theory.
...
Well, special counsel Jack Smith just filed a devastating response, telling Cannon that he might have to challenge the Trump appointee on appeal if she doesn't get it together.

[URL]https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-aileen-cannon-jury-instructions-jack-smith-rcna146173[/URL][/QUOTE]

So the very case that was a "slam dunk", if at all, out of all the strongest felony cases against Trump, [b]if "next steps" are unsuccessfully navigated,[/b] by prosecutor, Jack Smith, the doc't case could be tossed out or railroaded into legal double jeopardy, by this dithering, but yet "wily" partisan judge.

The seek for removal looks eminent, but again plays in Trump's "delay, delay, delay" tactics. So what is to be done?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2907167]Watch Fox News Panic On-Air Over the [b]Great Jobs Report[/b]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-fox-news-panic-air-202120449.html[/URL]

And it's always hilariously entertaining, to see FOXY Muse, stumble all over themselves, flummoxed for an explanation, other than the real one, of [b]"It's just a really GREAT JOB and ECONOMIC report."[/b][/QUOTE][URL]https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2024/04/07/mass-that-is-not/[/URL]

This is another disconnect, Biden and the news keep telling us the economy is roaring, the stock market is soaring, but grocery bills are out of sight. Don't tell me it's not Biden's fault, don't tell me by almost all metrics the economy truly is good, what has that got to do with me? Once again, the people parading in power are disconnected from what is happening on the street.

And this guy Lefetz is a huge Democratic douche.

Now maybe we can have some douche here who lives in a far off land argue why this Democrat is wrong. LOL.

Maybe he is adding up his bill wrong. Maybe you should try substituting animal protein with insect protein and save the planet? The economy is fine Lefetz, and we people living in Thailand know better.

OMG. He must be a bothsider. Yeah, that must be it.

But then there is this when Oliver Anthony's hit song came out that was loved by right wingers.

[URL]https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2023/08/22/oliver-anthony-rich-men-north-of-richmond/[/URL]

Billy Bragg's answer song would be getting traction, but it's not. "Richmond" is a phenomenon driven by right wing press. Believing it is owning the libs when that is patently untrue. This is what happens when a ranking system is flawed. Sales far outweigh streams on the chart, even though streams are by far the dominant mode of consumption. So truth is not. Buying "Richmond" is akin to texting two dollars to Donald Trump.

If you want wisdom don't look to some ignorant reactionary punk south of Richmond, but someone who knows of what they speak, who is intelligent and can express themselves, who knows you've got to think for yourself. If Oliver Anthony is a leader. Count me out.

End of link.

Can you get more Democratic douche than that? Now what?

We have to go back to the never mind ploy. Never mind about grocery bills.

But Trump blah, blah, blah, MAGA, blah, blah, blah, Qanon, blah, blah, blah, indictments, blah, blah, blah, Fox News, blah, blah, blah.

And if all that fails, write an article stating, Dear Mr. Lefetz, why Trump is responsible for your higher grocery bill.

Do you douches have anything other than that?