Kuala Lumpur

[QUOTE=Stykler;2219939]At that point I downed my drink and headed home..[/QUOTE]That's the only mistake you did on that night. After sending that girl to hell, where she deserves to be sent, you should (just my opinion, FWIW) have headed to BC, at least, and try your luck to find a good girl for 400 RM (expensive, I know, but [I]semel in anno[/I]. ). The night would have been way more exciting :p

[QUOTE=Stykler;2219935]Ain't that fucking right! Another thing that was unknown to me was that last night I went to the Thai Club and they tried to charge me 40 MYR to get in. No way I said and walked out. I had noticed some previous reports here indicating an entrance fee at BC / TC, but I thought it was only on busy nights. Lesson learnt for me.[/QUOTE]I don't understand the reason of your disappointment. It's normal that a club charges something. That 40 rm is for one drink. Expensive, but they know their club is one of the very few where one can find sexy working girls. They want to enforce at least one drink, to keep away those cheapstakers who just want to join the vibe and the club premises without even having a single drink. There are some.

Preperation.

Installed tinder, wechat and while in Melbourne started using the apps. Have gone through the locanto and gathered few contacts. Read the forum up to 100 pages to understand the local scene.

I wanted to stay and explore the opportunities in Malaysia for two days on transit. Boarded from Melbourne on, so landed on morning 6. My room wasn't ready. At this stage, wanted to kill some time until at least 1 pm. Based on my knowledge gained from the forum and I know that there won't be much options other than amoi. I wanted to try other providers I already compiled. Other than amoi, all went to dead ends as expected.

Amoi.

People handling amoi WhatsApp and guy who brings to the girls are very professional and no need to worry too much about getting cheated / conned. He was showing 3 girls since most of the girls are finished for the day. I wasn't convinced to choose one. He wasn't pushing the girls. So walked away and waited in the reception for 20 minutes. Being horny and no other options than that 3 girls, decided to try Gigi from Thailand.

Gigi is in 20's kinky, chatty. Asked for a shower. Had one and returned to the bed. She has a lovely skin and very easy going. Started cat bath and I am fully erect when she was close to my hip. Had a good BBBJ. She has very powerful suction no teeth during the entire session. Popped the protection and started riding in Cowgirl. Her boobs are bit saggy but soft. I was nodding to change the direction she was truly enjoying the session and she took a bit more time on cowgirl. By the time she decides to change the position I came. Oh, that's a week's load. Cleaned and cuddled for a while. She did a small shoulder massage to relax. Paid the tip and left.

Boobs: A cup. Saggy soft.

Skin: very smooth and fair.

Body: Slim.

FS: reasonably tight.

BBBJ: one of the best (I had in Malaysia).

Kissing: Usually won't expect from Asian girls so not disappointed.

Damages: 220 MYR.

Value For Money: Yes considering in Malaysia. I won't spend this money in other Asian countries though.

Very relaxing non-erotic massage.

Still got plenty of time left before I can check in to the hotel. Started roaming the streets (Jalan Bukit Bintang) , and found there is a legit Thai massage / foot reflexology centre. Time to relax. Chosen a 30 minutes foot reflexology and 20 minutes shoulder massage. The massage is truly wonderful and shoulder massage is the best I had so far. Very powerful massage and tipped her 20 MYR and left. Total spent 90 MYR + tips. Please keep in mind this is a very legit massage place, I didn't expect even a HJ or erotic massage her. Very value for money, I usually don't miss legit massages when I visit Indonesia. Now I have added Malaysia to the list too. The shop name is dCare or something. Very relaxed after the massage. And the time is close to 12. Headed to the hotel and checked into the room. Had a good sleep until evening and decide to try Sky river.

Sky river.

Lots of good reviews on Sky River. So don't want to skip this one. Took grab taxi to reach the Fahrenheit. There are plenty of papasans there looking after the customers. One guy approached me and asked whether I am new to this joint. Nodded yes, he started explaining how it works. There is a free drink. I opted for a beer (which is not free but 10 MYR) . He finished explaining about the parade and various rates based on ethnicity.

Parade.

Papasan leading the way to a room with couch. I was sipping the beer and girls started coming in. Girls ranging from 6-8. Distribution is hardly 2 8's and rest are 7 few 6's. Being a sucker for the slim girls, I immediately said a tiny Indonesian. Paid the 220 MYR and girl took me to upstairs.

In the room.

Girl is very young and slim. Body size 4-6. You can lift her with one hand. We showered together. She can't speak even few words in English. I tried to ask few but no understandable responses. So, decided not try to conversate. She started CBJ and CBJ was not good. I had to stop her, if not the way she was doing would sure make me go limp. Didn't expect her to kiss. By this time, I knew that this not going to be a session where she can do any better service. I was horny just by cuddling and playing with her firm boobs. She is bit worried about the size before penetration. FJ is a wonderful one, very tight and wet. Enjoyed the session. She was not servicing but well cooperated and enjoyed the FJ. She helped cleaning and I left immediately.

Girl: 19-22 years.

Ethnicity: Indonesian.

Size:4-6.

Boobs: 'A' (very firm and perky).

FJ: very tight, clean and enjoyable.

Damages:220 MYR (no tip).

Value for money: not really (if you don't like the girl you may hate as services nil).

I decided to call it a day. But wanted to explore BC before crashing. It is 8 PM they are running happy hour until 9 PM. Ordered a beer started sipping. I love having drinks even I don't get any girls. Had some food (nothing to write home about the food options / quality / price) . Around 9 PM girls started coming. When I finish the third round it is already 10:40 PM.

Four girls approached and none of them are good (Saturday Night) Mostly on heavy makeup which I hate. Majority of the girls are past their prime time. Only a handful of <25 yrs. But there are heaps of guys approaching them. Thanked god for my earlier sessions and left.

BC should be the last end of spectrum based on my view.

Value for money: Not worth it.

(I tried on the next day around 11:30 still not good).

Day 2: Exploring all options.

My day started very late due to tiredness. Had wonderful fried rice in Jalan Bukit Bintang and wanted to just to explore the China town and Chow Kit, Ace hotel. I was prepared not to expect any session. I would like to just to explore.

Chow Kit.

Couldn't locate where the action takes place based on my reading. May be due to the wrong time. So no actions to explore.

Petaling Street (AKA China town).

Instructions given in the earlier pasts are spot on. Seen the rundown, ugly places. Checked all the girls. Just walked in and out and left.

Ace Hotel / pudu.

The girls are actually no better or worse than the one in BC. Heavy make up and place is rundown as well. After scanning booked a Grab Cab to Amoi and left.

AMOI -Session 2.

Based on my last session was expecting more girls this time since it is already 3 PM. Most of the good-looking girls are booked for an hour. Papasan suggested an Indonesian girl. I usually get good responses from Indonesian girls. So paid him 220 MYR and entered the room. Headed to shower and took a quick shower.

She had taken shower and came back with towel. She didn't remove towel. After insisting took off. Followed by a worst CBJ. I just asked not to bother. She started cuddling and a nonexistence cat bath. I could figure out where this is heading to. So Before getting pissed off completely asked her to pop the safety. During FJ she was some how trying to position herself not to enter fully. I stopped the session and asked her not to do that. After 3 times repeating the same, I know she is not going to let it finish happily. After few pumping I came and left.

Sent the whatsapp contact that I won't return and let him know that the service is horrible.

I don't know How much that's going to help the other punters. But It may very well be something wrong with the girl too.

Girl: average.

Boobs: 'see' not that great saggy.

Age: late 20's.

Ethinicity: Indonesian.

FJ: Horrible.

CBJ: Horrible.

Damages: 220 MYR.

Value for money: Hell no.

Anyone recently been to Angelic Garden or October Cherry. Can't find any recent reports and was wondering if it was worthwhile visiting these establishments.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2219970] They want to enforce at least one drink, to keep away those cheapstakers who just want to join the vibe and the club premises without even having a single drink. [/QUOTE]That's a good point.

[QUOTE=CodeName47;2220002]Day 2: Exploring all options.
[/QUOTE]Kudos for you!

[QUOTE=CodeName47;2220002]Chow Kit.
Couldn't locate where the action takes place based on my reading. May be due to the wrong time. So no actions to explore.
[/QUOTE]My gut feeling is that it is now past. I explored Chow Kit on my first visit to KL, maybe 10 years ago (reports are still on the forum). I found something, but nothing worth. Several ugly LBs and scammers (the wooden wall trick). Maybe it was already decadent.

It was times when girls at BC were asking something around 200 RM, and I found many nice filipinas who had been not on the job for long, still a bit naif and innocent in their naughtiness. The best I could dream of. For me, BC was kind of candy store. Unfortunately, nothing like that anymore.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2220369]Kudos for you!

My gut feeling is that it is now past. I explored Chow Kit on my first visit to KL, maybe 10 years ago (reports are still on the forum). I found something, but nothing worth. Several ugly LBs and scammers (the wooden wall trick). Maybe it was already decadent.

It was times when girls at BC were asking something around 200 RM, and I found many nice filipinas who had been not on the job for long, still a bit naif and innocent in their naughtiness. The best I could dream of. For me, BC was kind of candy store. Unfortunately, nothing like that anymore.[/QUOTE]I was not expecting ground breaking results from KL. At one point, I just thought I could have spent another 100 $ to go to Indonesia and had lots of fun for that money spent in Malaysia.

Having said that, I must admit I have only sampled a few areas in this trip. There may be hidden gems.

I'm reading up on the wiki guide of KL, and in addition to east Asian prospects, supposedly there's also south Asian prospects.

If a guy wants to fulfill a token Bollywood fantasy bucket list session, could that happen in KL or hold off till some other trip to New Delhi?

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2221208]I'm reading up on the wiki guide of KL, and in addition to east Asian prospects, supposedly there's also south Asian prospects.

If a guy wants to fulfill a token Bollywood fantasy bucket list session, could that happen in KL or hold off till some other trip to New Delhi?[/QUOTE]Definitely the wrong place, dude. Not that I've ever been to India, but let's face it, that's where the Indian girls are. What I saw in KL is a limited number of mature Indian women in the cheap brothels of Chinatown. Definitely not fodder for Bollywood. Probably ask on the India forums, and I'm sure you'll get lots of answers.

Now, if you want cheap sex with Vietnamese girls without going to Vietnam, then KL is the place. It won't be great sex, based on my experience, just cheap sex. So you have been warned.

I've read up on some of your posts about the border towns, and as someone who grew up in South Texas, it's interesting stuff to read. I never mustered up the courage to do it myself back in my youth. However, once you have been to Colombia you will realize how grungy, fat and disgusting Mexican girls are. I just back from Bogota, so look for my FR coming up in the next week. When you do get the urge to head south of the Panama Canal, ping me and I'll give you some info about that great destination that is a must for anyone who admires actual, attractive Latinas with a sweet attitude.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2221208]I'm reading up on the wiki guide of KL, and in addition to east Asian prospects, supposedly there's also south Asian prospects.
If a guy wants to fulfill a token Bollywood fantasy bucket list session, could that happen in KL or hold off till some other trip to New Delhi?[/QUOTE]Your requirements can be fulfilled in KL but. Options are not great. In my trips never seen anything decent in the flesh in this category.

Have seen plenty of very undo-able Indian options though.

Have seen on line some higher class agency Bollywood girls though available in KL.

YVMD but why the hell would anyone want to go to New Delhi? I mean for God's sake can someone just move the Taj Mahal and then we will all be happy!

Wiling to be flamed!

[QUOTE=NewImage;2221264]Your requirements can be fulfilled in KL but. Options are not great. In my trips never seen anything decent in the flesh in this category.

Have seen plenty of very undo-able Indian options though.

Have seen on line some higher class agency Bollywood girls though available in KL.

YVMD but why the hell would anyone want to go to New Delhi? I mean for God's sake can someone just move the Taj Mahal and then we will all be happy!

Wiling to be flamed![/QUOTE]Don't read what new image say. He is a low self esteem, tight pocket old haggard. His world runs around his own poor fantasy of 1960's.

I would give a peace, if you start exploring options through online, most of them will supply some Bangladeshi or Pakistani ladies on the name of Bollywood actress. On Changkat and beach club, some will lure you on the name of Indian ladies but supplying some old dirty Pakistani or Bangladeshi gals.

The Pakistani gals here are not like the one in Dubai.

If you go to New Delhi, it's easier to get access to some nice ones. Check Delhi thread in my last visit I tasted one and it was OMG.

Come to KL try Viet Philippine Indonesian or some local if you are young enough.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;2221273]Don't read what new image say. He is a low self esteem, tight pocket old haggard. His world runs around his own poor fantasy of 1960's.

I would give a peace, if you start exploring options through online, most of them will supply some Bangladeshi or Pakistani ladies on the name of Bollywood actress. On Changkat and beach club, some will lure you on the name of Indian ladies but supplying some old dirty Pakistani or Bangladeshi gals.

The Pakistani gals here are not like the one in Dubai.

If you go to New Delhi, it's easier to get access to some nice ones. Check Delhi thread in my last visit I tasted one and it was OMG.

Come to KL try Viet Philippine Indonesian or some local if you are young enough.[/QUOTE]Tried to PM you but didn't work.

Am intrigued on why you formed this opinion of me as a " he is a low self esteem, tight pocket old haggard. His world runs around his own poor fantasy of 1960's. ".

PM me or reply here. At least I deserve a response to your grossly antagonistic public flaming.

OK let me explain I was not behaving like a nice guy. So I used to go to a bar at Trec. I always used to see two local gals and being a obvious foreigner, I say Hi many times and they just shoo me away. One day I went to zouk and found one of them in there. As a shameless creature I say Hi. Do you want to drink something. I offered her some whisky from the bottle I bought, and she came and joined me. Rest is history, after 3 glasses we were otw to my home. A great sex whole night, can't compare with those paid sex. It was free and awesome. Morning post lunch I book her grab and send her home. After that we met many times but somehow I still used to fantasize about her sister, later came to know about the stories and I realized both are not on good terms. A typical South East Asian stuff. Luckily I exchanged my number with her sister too. So for long this gal used to come my place for a great time together. One day her sister message me, as she was coming back from home town and need a grab to be booked. Like a great Samaritan I offered her my place to stay. She agreed and came to my place. We drink few beers and o offered her a little massage, rest was a history, she was as horny as her little sister. Aim achieved.

-Message. Local gals don't like foreigners unless you are a black or Arab. But patience is the password to break the spell.

Cheers guys stay horny.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;2222237]OK let me explain I was not behaving like a nice guy. So I used to go to a bar at Trec. I always used to see two local gals and being a obvious foreigner, I say Hi many times and they just shoo me away. One day I went to zouk and found one of them in there. As a shameless creature I say Hi. Do you want to drink something. I offered her some whisky from the bottle I bought, and she came and joined me. Rest is history, after 3 glasses we were otw to my home. A great sex whole night, can't compare with those paid sex. It was free and awesome. Morning post lunch I book her grab and send her home. After that we met many times but somehow I still used to fantasize about her sister, later came to know about the stories and I realized both are not on good terms. A typical South East Asian stuff. Luckily I exchanged my number with her sister too. So for long this gal used to come my place for a great time together. One day her sister message me, as she was coming back from home town and need a grab to be booked. Like a great Samaritan I offered her my place to stay. She agreed and came to my place. We drink few beers and o offered her a little massage, rest was a history, she was as horny as her little sister. Aim achieved.
-Message. Local gals don't like foreigners unless you are a black or Arab. But patience is the password to break the spell.
Cheers guys stay horny.[/QUOTE]How does this relate to your comments? Or me? . or are you just saying you are pissed off with local girls?

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;2221273]Don't read what new image say. He is a low self esteem, tight pocket old haggard. His world runs around his own poor fantasy of 1960's.

I would give a peace, if you start exploring options through online, most of them will supply some Bangladeshi or Pakistani ladies on the name of Bollywood actress. On Changkat and beach club, some will lure you on the name of Indian ladies but supplying some old dirty Pakistani or Bangladeshi gals.

The Pakistani gals here are not like the one in Dubai.

If you go to New Delhi, it's easier to get access to some nice ones. Check Delhi thread in my last visit I tasted one and it was OMG.

Come to KL try Viet Philippine Indonesian or some local if you are young enough.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. Read my recent reviews on New Delhi.

The body slide I had is absolutely wonderful. I had various soapy massages, Nuru across the famous places. But this is very special. It is quite hard to find a girl who does proper DFK in SEA. But it is very well the default in most of the sessions I had in New Delhi.

The only trouble with India I feel is the hotels and guest friendliness expectations from my side. Other than that, one should never complain without trying the services and girls. Girls are awesome in erotic massages.

I know it seems a way different than one could imagine. I have had my fair share of experiences from KL, Singapore, Indonesia from various nationalities. Posted few here as well. If I didn't have an opportunity to go for a business trip to Bangalore, I might have a similar thought as well.

1) traveling not bad: plenty of good quality domestic flights (most of them are surprisingly new).

2) Uber- My local trips between massage and hotel is a breeze with <10 $ / trip I used uber for eve 500 meters walk able charged around a $.

3) Language- most of them speak / understand English. Communication is not a problem.

Some points to note.

1) cleanliness is still a bit of an issue. If you keep yourself to the top hotels, restaurants and pay well. You get better treatment and don't need to go and explore those not so clean areas.

2) don't try the public transportation and you may exactly feel the opposite of what I have experienced.

3) stay clear of anything <4* old hotels.

It definitely an experience that made me want to consider saying yes for my future possible business visits.

In the mean time, I must admit. The local Indian (in general overall mongering) scene in KL is not that great. That is because of my lack of knowledge on how to approach better girls in KL but for a short visit I wouldn't bother.

[QUOTE=CodeName47;2223240]You are absolutely right. Read my recent reviews on New Delhi.
The body slide I had is absolutely wonderful. I had various soapy massages, Nuru across the famous places. But this is very special. It is quite hard to find a girl who does proper DFK in SEA. But it is very well the default in most of the sessions I had in New Delhi.
The only trouble with India I feel is the hotels and guest friendliness expectations from my side. Other than that, one should never complain without trying the services and girls. Girls are awesome in erotic massages.
I know it seems a way different than one could imagine. I have had my fair share of experiences from KL, Singapore, Indonesia from various nationalities. Posted few here as well. If I didn't have an opportunity to go for a business trip to Bangalore, I might have a similar thought as well.
1) traveling not bad: plenty of good quality domestic flights (most of them are surprisingly new).
2) Uber- My local trips between massage and hotel is a breeze with <10 $ / trip I used uber for eve 500 meters walk able charged around a $.
3) Language- most of them speak / understand English. Communication is not a problem.
Some points to note.
1) cleanliness is still a bit of an issue. If you keep yourself to the top hotels, restaurants and pay well. You get better treatment and don't need to go and explore those not so clean areas.
2) don't try the public transportation and you may exactly feel the opposite of what I have experienced.
3) stay clear of anything <4* old hotels.
It definitely an experience that made me want to consider saying yes for my future possible business visits.
In the mean time, I must admit. The local Indian (in general overall mongering) scene in KL is not that great. That is because of my lack of knowledge on how to approach better girls in KL but for a short visit I wouldn't bother.[/QUOTE]And here's the part. And I quote " (in general overall mongering) scene in KL is not that great. That is because of my lack of knowledge on how to approach better girls in KL". The devil always lies in the detail.

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2222357]How does this relate to your comments? Or me? . or are you just saying you are pissed off with local girls?[/QUOTE]Why are you you so self obcessed. There is nothing for you in this post.

The number of gals you hook up by paying money in one visit are ready to visit my harem on any weekday.

OK I will ignore you now. Cheers.

Hey guys,

I'd like to ask you guys since I am pretty sure you guys have much more experience then I do on which outcall sites are legitimate. Or if you guys have any FL contacts that'll be super cool.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;2223345]Why are you you so self obcessed. There is nothing for you in this post.
The number of gals you hook up by paying money in one visit are ready to visit my harem on any weekday.
OK I will ignore you now. Cheers.[/QUOTE]"The number of gals you hook up by paying money in one visit are ready to visit my harem on any weekday. ".

Not sure what you mean?

So "the number of girls I hook up with by paying money in one visit"= approx 12 WG over 2 wks - "are ready to visit my harem on any weekday" = so they are ready to come to your harem on any weekday? Of course they are, that's what they do.

Really a "harem" ? Hands up all those who believe RockHardy21 has a harem? (and surely is not self obcessed, er obbsussed er obcecced. Er you know what I mean.

That's right you were going to ignore me!

Cheers.

Thank you everyone for sharing their reports and it made my first trip to Kuala Lumpur a bit easier as I knew what to expect.

Wanted to share my experience at Beach Club from May. Got there and pay the 40 MYR which includes a drink, got a beer and sat at the bar. Met a Viet girl with the nicest rack I ever seen. Negotiated to 400 + 50 for tip. Back to hotel and had a great session. Her boobs were even nicer without clothes on. So soft and nice to touch. Enjoyed my session with her so much had her come back 3 other times including a threesome with her friend which I still think about to this day.

I love KL! Already planning my next trip there for later this year.

[QUOTE=CockaSaurus;2224924]Thank you everyone for sharing their reports and it made my first trip to Kuala Lumpur a bit easier as I knew what to expect.
Wanted to share my experience at Beach Club from May. Got there and pay the 40 MYR which includes a drink, got a beer and sat at the bar. Met a Viet girl with the nicest rack I ever seen. Negotiated to 400 + 50 for tip. Back to hotel and had a great session. Her boobs were even nicer without clothes on. So soft and nice to touch. Enjoyed my session with her so much had her come back 3 other times including a threesome with her friend which I still think about to this day.
I love KL! Already planning my next trip there for later this year.[/QUOTE]Its funny isn't it. A few posts back someone said " Now, if you want cheap sex with Vietnamese girls without going to Vietnam, then KL is the place. It won't be great sex, based on my experience, just cheap sex. So you have been warned. ".

Now we have this post.

I am with Casaurus. KL works for me, but it must be confusing for others.

Cockasaurus be careful in KL once almost got tricked by Malaysian Ladyboy Megasaurass. LOL.

[QUOTE=HopeMan;2223349]Hey guys,

I'd like to ask you guys since I am pretty sure you guys have much more experience then I do on which outcall sites are legitimate. Or if you guys have any FL contacts that'll be super cool.[/QUOTE]I recently went to KL. I used the below for outcall. In KL, they will drop off the WG at your hotel and will ask you to pay the driver first vs pay the WG after. I had not experienced this before but all 3 did this so I think its a local thing and don't be surprised.

[URL]http://amoi2u.net/[/URL]

[URL]http://pjescort.club/[/URL]

[URL]http://klstarclub01.com/[/URL]

Hi,

I am planning to come Kualalumpur from Thursday to Monday. I had been to beach club long back and it was OK for me, but want to gather information about zeta bar Hilton. Looking for beauty and service. Is zeta better than beach club, and is it happening on Thursday night. Can spend bit more for quality.

Hi,

I have looked a lot through the forum but I can't find what I am looking for. I am hoping someone can help me out.

Basically I am looking for a massage place in the Bukit Bintang area where I can get a good massage with a happy ending. Not just a token massage to start with and not in one if the Spas. I imagine it is not hard to find a happy ending but with a good massage first?

Any specific recommendations? (not just steer names).

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Horizontal123;2225531]Hi,

I have looked a lot through the forum but I can't find what I am looking for. I am hoping someone can help me out.

Basically I am looking for a massage place in the Bukit Bintang area where I can get a good massage with a happy ending. Not just a token massage to start with and not in one if the Spas. I imagine it is not hard to find a happy ending but with a good massage first?

Any specific recommendations? (not just steer names).

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you actually read the forum a lot, you would have known where to look. Nobody can tell you where you personally are going to have what you would call a good experience. Going into an MP that actually is a legit MP and expecting a good massage followed by a HJ is probably the most uncertain thing you can ask for. Remember, this is not Thailand. Girls that are legit massage therapists and girls who provide sexual services are two different things. In Bangkok, its quite feasible, but again this is not Thailand.

[QUOTE=Horizontal123;2225531]Hi,
I have looked a lot through the forum but I can't find what I am looking for. I am hoping someone can help me out.
Basically I am looking for a massage place in the Bukit Bintang area where I can get a good massage with a happy ending. Not just a token massage to start with and not in one if the Spas. I imagine it is not hard to find a happy ending but with a good massage first?
Any specific recommendations? (not just steer names).
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Think you want the best of both worlds. Maybe toddle down to the girls in blue uniforms opposite Soleil Hotel. Ask who is best at massage and know that at the end you will get that HJ for sure.

Can vouch for ending, massage well.

[QUOTE=HornyBabaji;2225334]Hi,

I am planning to come Kualalumpur from Thursday to Monday. I had been to beach club long back and it was OK for me, but want to gather information about zeta bar Hilton. Looking for beauty and service. Is zeta better than beach club, and is it happening on Thursday night. Can spend bit more for quality.[/QUOTE]If you are OK to pay a Thai or Vietnamese gal more than 800-1000 than its your place.

Lots of normal gals come, so if you have skills to laid free, it's your place.

I have once got one MILF lady from there. If you are into MILF it's your place.

Don't expect quality is better. I saw many BC gals whom I paid 200 myr for one hour asking there 800.

[QUOTE=Horizontal123;2225531]Hi,

I have looked a lot through the forum but I can't find what I am looking for. I am hoping someone can help me out.

Basically I am looking for a massage place in the Bukit Bintang area where I can get a good massage with a happy ending. Not just a token massage to start with and not in one if the Spas. I imagine it is not hard to find a happy ending but with a good massage first?

Any specific recommendations? (not just steer names).

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Here I have a specific recommendation for you as you are a newbie and all whose first post is a demanding question.

Go to Google & FTFF massage ask Ms La Zyass, the address is Jalan Dang Wangi.

Kuala Lumpur.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2225563]If you actually read the forum a lot, you would have known where to look. Nobody can tell you where you personally are going to have what you would call a good experience. Going into an MP that actually is a legit MP and expecting a good massage followed by a HJ is probably the most uncertain thing you can ask for. Remember, this is not Thailand. Girls that are legit massage therapists and girls who provide sexual services are two different things. In Bangkok, its quite feasible, but again this is not Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have read a lot so I do know where to look in the area. I just wondered if anyone had a regular spot they went to.

[QUOTE=Horizontal123;2225759]Thanks. I have read a lot so I do know where to look in the area. I just wondered if anyone had a regular spot they went to.[/QUOTE]In Jln Tong Shin near the Corona Inn, there is a place called Pusat Rawatan. It is at the base of the Blue Boy apartment complex. They give genuine oil massages that last the entire hour (if you have booked an hour). They will look and point at the end of the massage if you know what I mean. A one hour oilie is 65 Ringgits and the added extra is 50 Ringgits. There are several chicks there, and most are of Chinese extraction. Closes around 10 pm. BTW, it is great!

[QUOTE=Franga;2225922]In Jln Tong Shin near the Corona Inn, there is a place called Pusat Rawatan. It is at the base of the Blue Boy apartment complex. They give genuine oil massages that last the entire hour (if you have booked an hour). They will look and point at the end of the massage if you know what I mean. A one hour oilie is 65 Ringgits and the added extra is 50 Ringgits. There are several chicks there, and most are of Chinese extraction. Closes around 10 pm. BTW, it is great![/QUOTE]Thank you! I will be in KL in late November. For a quality massage, it seems like a bargain.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2226174]How many else of us could go to BC tonight and get "many girls for 200 myr. " Utter BS.[/QUOTE]Next step, for very handsome guys with mesmerizing abilities, is to get a tip by Viet girls working in BC.

[QUOTE=RockyHardy21;2225741]If you are OK to pay a Thai or Vietnamese gal more than 800-1000 than its your place.

Lots of normal gals come, so if you have skills to laid free, it's your place.

I have once got one MILF lady from there. If you are into MILF it's your place.

Don't expect quality is better. I saw many BC gals whom I paid 200 myr for one hour asking there 800.[/QUOTE]Rickyhard,

This forum is not about scoring a freebie.

If you out here to score freebie and preaching people how handsom you are, I suggest you to find a high school or collage group.

Not that I came across to freebies, even though girls refuse to accept money, I would slide in their purses without them knowing.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2225563]If you actually read the forum a lot, you would have known where to look. [/QUOTE]I got your PM re: RdJ. Your inbox is full.

[QUOTE=Playaccount88;2225287]I recently went to KL. I used the below for outcall. In KL, they will drop off the WG at your hotel and will ask you to pay the driver first vs pay the WG after. I had not experienced this before but all 3 did this so I think its a local thing and don't be surprised.

[URL]http://amoi2u.net/[/URL]

[URL]http://pjescort.club/[/URL]

[URL]http://klstarclub01.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting that KL Star Club is using photos from Bangkok Golden Escort?

You don't get the pun intended. I wrote a review to help someone not to waste his time and money.

If you have never been to a club not ma fault. The comment was to help someone who is going to a wrong place at wrong time and I wrote the conclusion of the club.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2226370]Rickyhard,

This forum is not about scoring a freebie.

If you out here to score freebie and preaching people how handsom you are, I suggest you to find a high school or collage group.

Not that I came across to freebies, even though girls refuse to accept money, I would slide in their purses without them knowing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PoohKeyLover;2227815]Interesting that KL Star Club is using photos from Bangkok Golden Escort?[/QUOTE]Ax model. Could be, she is in KL for a short tour and be legit? Or more likely they just borrowed the picture.

Was in KL 2 weeks back, went with Amoi.

Went in late around 10 PM, Boss showed me what was available and recommend me a new Thai. Petite figure, be breasts, cute face, why not right?

Went in the room, she told me to shower, disappointed she didn't shower with me but showered after me. Before laying down in bed she placed a towel under me and proceeded to give me a CBJ, mechanical and didn't really feel the enthusiasm, quite a turn off really, flipped her proceeded with the insertion, good moans, very wet, but caught her glimpsing at the clock a few times again quite a turn off. Finished inside her w protection. Cleaned up and left.

Attitude: 5/10 Kept looking at the clock, was quiet, not that enthusiastic.

Body: 7/10, skinny, be cups, soft skin.

Face: 6/10. Cute, can do with a smile more.

Service: 6/10, Mechanical.

WIR: Def no.

Damage: RM250.

Hello,

I would be visiting Kuala Lumpur with a few friends for a bachelors party and have read few pages here. I wanted to know are Russian, Uzbek or non Asian girls also available in KL. If so where to find them and what is the rate for ST and LT.

Thanks,

Tarus.

I see CraigList is dead, here and in many other countries. They removed the section / cas.

Anyone knows where are now the hundreds of posters who were supplying a continuous flow of ads there? What is the current venue for those ads? Or it's simply dead?

Dear Seniors,

New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.

[QUOTE=Prince2098;2233948]Dear Seniors,

New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.[/QUOTE]After one post? Good luck.

[QUOTE=Prince2098;2233948]Dear Seniors,

New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.[/QUOTE]I miss thee word "please".

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I know the post is long; if you enjoy reading—great. But, if you want quick details—for sure, skip to another post.

I'm in KL now. I've only been out mongering here once. I read many pages of the forum, including the excellent posts by NewImage; wow, those were great. I've picked up about 189 girls in 10 years, mostly in Philippines, Thailand, Germany. All paid. I don't even try for free. Sometimes the paid turn into free after a while. But, then they move in, etc.

My day of KL mongering involved walking over 10 miles, or so says the app on my phone. Headed out from my hotel by Grab to Mid Valley mall for phone chargers that would work with the Malaysian wall plugs, and started a monger-wander from there. I wanted to hit multiple areas that I had read about: Brickfields, Jalan Alor, Beach Club, and Chow Kit. Those are pretty spread out areas.

I thought I would walk form Mid-Valley to Brickfields, knowing that it wasn't all that close of a walk. Crap, that was a difficult walk. The distance is not great, just over 2 km, but there are expressways and rail-tracks that make the walk very hard. I did this because I wanted to; I was interested in seeing the city, and walking. (A Grab would have been like 11 RM, or something trivial. It wasn't about money.) I don't recall the time, but it was dark. Sunday night.

I had heard mostly negative things about mongering in Brickfields. Well, I walked in from out-of-area, and then walked the whole length of Jalan Thambipillay (from Lorong Chan Ah Tong, up to where it ends at Jalan Tun Sambanthan 3)- and I didn't see anything that was of even remote interest to me. There were some massage places, but I didn't venture in. At the very end of the street I saw one streetwalker who I would rank as a 1-out-of-10. I can't imagine a scenario where I would be interested in that worker. Did not stop! Kept walking.

Then, got a Grab over to Berjaya Times Square mall, to recharge phone at Starbucks, and get caffeine for the continued walk. That put me near the mongering streets of Jalan Alor and Jalan Rembia. Walked over there—and again, that walk was somewhat hard due to high-vehicular volume streets, and pedestrian overpasses.

I was surprised by the lively environment at Jalan Alor: street performers, musicians, and regular Joe tourists. I thought it would be more hard-core mongering, and massage places. Usually the tourists-mixing-with-mongering is not my thing. (I prefer Angeles City to Pattaya, for example. I don't enjoy the regular tourists – western girls and their boyfriends, and couples on holiday, even families—mixed in with the mongering. I know other guys like the beach at Pattaya, and think Angeles City is a shithole. That's fine; I don't think Angeles is charming, but I like that it doesn't mix mongering and regular tourists much. Guys that go to Angeles go to fuck the pretty girls. Or ugly girls; whatever. Not to jet-ski.).

Walking Jalan Alor I saw a few streetwalkers, among the crowds of people. Also girls offering massage, but I didn't engage much with them. I prefer to take a girl home; I'm not really down with the quickies in upstairs rooms. Not my thing personally. (OK, sometimes it is. Something about the furtive nature, and sketchiness of it. But, generally prefer a girl at the hotel, overnight.).

When I got to the end of the street, I looped back again—and got hit up a few more times by the massage girls, and eye contact by working girls. I went to the next street, Jalan Rembia, and it was a full-on night-market food festival environment. No streetwalkers, no massage—just full on night food market, again with performers singing on the street, and tons of regular Joe tourists. Interesting enough. "Alor Street Food Night Market."

At the end of the street, I turned to walk up to Beach Club. It was there that I hit the most massage girls—where Jalan Rembia hits Changkat Bukit Bintang. Girls were pitching 1-hour at 40 RM. I assume it would go to multiples of that once you got to the room, if you wanted any interesting service. But, I didn't go up. Can't report actual costs.

Walked the 1.5 km to Beach Club. I'll start the next post there.

I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.

Johnny.

I know the post is long; if you enjoy reading—great. But, if you want quick details—for sure, skip to another post.

I'm in KL now, I've only been out mongering here once. I read many pages of the forum, including the excellent posts by NewImage; wow, those were great.

My day of mongering involved walking over 10 miles, or so says the app on my phone. Headed out from my hotel by Grab to Mid Valley mall for phone chargers that would work with the Malaysian wall plugs, and started a monger-wander from there. I wanted to hit multiple areas that I had read about: Brickfields, Jalan Alor, Beach Club, and Chow Kit. Those are pretty spread out areas.

I thought I would walk form Mid-Valley to Brickfields, knowing that it wasn't all that close of a walk. Crap, that was a difficult walk. The distance is not great, just over 2 km, but there are expressways and rail-tracks that make the walk very hard. I did this because I wanted to; I was interested in seeing the city, and walking. (A Grab would have been like 11 RM, or something trivial. It wasn't about money.) I don't recall the time, but it was dark. Sunday night.

I had heard mostly negative things about mongering in Brickfields. Well, I walked in from out-of-area, and then walked the whole length of Jalan Thambipillay (from Lorong Chan Ah Tong, up to where it ends at Jalan Tun Sambanthan 3)- and I didn't see anything that was of even remote interest to me. There were some massage places, but I didn't venture in. At the very end of the street I saw one streetwalker who I would rank as a 1-out-of-10. I can't imagine a scenario where I would be interested in that worker. Did not stop! Kept walking.

Then, got a Grab over to Berjaya Times Square mall, to recharge phone at Starbucks, and get caffeine for the continued walk. That put me near the mongering streets of Jalan Alor and Jalan Rembia. Walked over there—and again, that walk was somewhat hard due to high-vehicular volume streets, and pedestrian overpasses.

I was surprised by the lively environment at Jalan Alor: street performers, musicians, and regular Joe tourists. I thought it would be more hard-core mongering, and massage places. Usually the tourists-mixing-with-mongering is not my thing. (I prefer Angeles City to Pattaya, for example. I don't enjoy the regular tourists – western girls and their boyfriends, and couples on holiday, even families—mixed in with the mongering. I know other guys like the beach at Pattaya, and think Angeles City is a shithole. That's fine; I don't think Angeles is charming, but I like that it doesn't mix mongering and regular tourists much. Guys that go to Angeles go to fuck the pretty girls. Or ugly girls; whatever. Not to jet-ski).

Walking Jalan Alor I saw a few streetwalkers, among the crowds of people. Also girls offering massage, but I didn't engage much with them. I prefer to take a girl home; I'm not really down with the quickies in upstairs rooms. Not my thing personally. (OK, sometimes it is. Something about the furtive nature, and sketchiness of it. But, generally prefer a girl at the hotel, overnight).

When I got to the end of the street, I looped back again—and got hit up a few more times by the massage girls, and eye contact by working girls. I went to the next street, Jalan Rembia, and it was a full-on night-market food festival environment. No streetwalkers, no massage—just full on night food market, again with performers singing on the street, and tons of regular Joe tourists. Interesting enough. "Alor Street Food Night Market."

At the end of the street, I turned to walk up to Beach Club. It was there that I hit the most massage girls—where Jalan Rembia hits Changkat Bukit Bintang. Girls were pitching 1-hour at 40 RM. I assume it would go to multiples of that once you got to the room, if you wanted any interesting service. But, I didn't go up. Can't report actual costs.

Walked the 1.5 km to Beach Club. I'll start the next post there.

I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.

Johnny.

Walked from Jalan Alor to Beach Club. Entry was 45 RM, including a drink ticket.

Sunday night. Maybe 9:30 pm. My god, the girls were beautiful. And, dressed up. I swear there were 9's.

Ok, 4's. And 6's also. But, some just gorgeous girls. I know – sounds like BS, right? But, I was really impressed. If you know L. A. Café in Manila, this level of dress-to-impress of the girls at Beach Club in KL is a world above.

Also: I kinda looked like shit. I had walked maybe 6 miles by this point, in tropical heat. I wasn't dressed appropriately for the bar. I had shorts, and trainers, and a sports shirt. I didn't realize I would end up here. I started out with a trip to the mall, to buy phone chargers. Then, started googling on my phone. Then-I'm on a goddamn working girl walkabout. How did life lead me down this sordid path?

Then again: gorgeous ladies at Beach Club. Your mileage may vary, but I was impressed. Maybe because in Angeles City they are just in bikinis, and don't need to wear actual dresses. But, the Beach Club girls looked great in their pickup clothes.

Ratio of girls-to-guys was perhaps 10:1, or more. Hardly any guys in there at all. Dozens of girls. Sunday night, maybe 9:30 pm.

I washed up in in the restroom, then got my drink and sat my under-dressed ass down. I was quickly approached—by a gorgeous woman. She was a pro, and perfectly good to chat with for a couple minutes, then we got to prices. She asked 1,200 RM for the night.

Yeah, I know! Here's the thing though. In the UK, she could get that for an hour. No, I didn't even entertain the idea for a second; I told her it was not for me, and she got up without any kind of fuss and searched elsewhere. So, the price was out of line of what I've read in the forums- but man, she was beautiful, and I did enjoy having my hands on her bare midriff for the time she sat with me. 1,200 RM was not for me, not in this country.

Lots of very friendly smiles, walking around Beach Club. Too loud inside the bar area. Too quiet on the outside patio. Anyway, was approached by a Vietnamese girl. Thin girl, wearing jeans, and white shirt. Kind of reminded me of a regular girl in the mall back home—a girl that would never fuck me back home. Plain face, but great attitude. She really worked for it. Plain face, but she totally made up for it with great attitude, and total flexibility. (Both flexible in her disposition, and flexible with her limbs, I would find out later.) I offered her a drink, and she accepted a beer—but really offered most of that beer back to me.

She asked 800 RM. Too high, from what I read here, and she asked me to counter. I didn't counter. I said maybe I would come back, and I walked out. I left Beach Club.

Walked the 2. 5 KM to Chow Kit, to Loring Haji Taib 2. That was a pretty sketchy street. Ladyboys in hallways, dark and dank. I assume pretty damn dangerous, by that time at night. There is a night market, but it was packed up by that time—I think 11 pm or so, Sunday night.

I wandered up and down the streets – Jalan Haji Taib, and surrounding areas. But, only ladyboys, and they were on Loring Haji Taib 2 and Loring Haji Taib 1. By the "park. " I think it was a park. Some kinda green area.

Sketchy as fuck. Ladyboys asked 100 RM. Look, I knew I would write it up here later. Thought I would at least give you actual info. No, I didn't go into the buildings with them. Sketchy as fuck; dark and dank; man-made stand-up breasts, barely covered, on an Asian ladyboy body. I hold nothing against them. Talk all the shit you want. I'm not going to trash them.

So, I feel this was dangerous— walking these dark mostly-abandoned streets, at midnight. Time to take the escape hatch. I got a Grab, back to Beach Club.

Went looking for the girl with the white shirt and great attitude. Sat down at my same place, and a girl came over. Kind of drunk. Bit of a nasty undertone. Some mean vibe. And, this was in the bar. Can't imagine if there was a disagreement at the hotel. Wasn't going to be a good time. I went to get a drink, and left my cell phone there charging. She sat there with my cell phone.

While at the bar, another girl approached. I cut to pricing quickly, and she was asking 800 for the night. I was mostly gauging what they were asking. On the way back to my table and phone, saw the white-shirt Vietnamese girl- but the other girl was camped out at my table.

Tried to tell the girl with the mean undertone that I saw my friend, but she called bullshit. I really HAD seen my friend! The girl I met a couple hours earlier. But, girl #2 wasn't buying it, even though it was true.

I still wanted to gauge prices, so I asked girl #2 what she wanted for the night. 800 RM. I wasn't interested, based on the sharp edge to her, but wanted to know what the girls were quoting. Maybe shouldn't have asked. She was taking zero hints about leaving. I know what guys write on the forum. "I kicked her to the curb. " Or "I told her to leave. " Etc. Shit, she wasn't leaving. I had to climb over her to get out of the table / booth, to go get the girl with the sweet disposition. You don't have to pust what you would have done: 'I would have told her to' blah-blah-blah. This is what really happened.

Then the hard-edged girl fuckin followed me. She literally followed me and started saying I should give her money for sitting with me, and for watching my phone. Ok, BS. She's getting vocal, and she's a bit drunk, and aggressive. I don't care about any machismo posts, where guys say what they would do to the girl, or what they would say. I was there, and for me, this was a drunk girl, working up a grudge, holding a glass, getting aggressive, and it could get ugly. I certainly wasn't going to be physical with her. God no. First night out in KL, and get in an altercation with a bar girl? Not going to be a good time—and in some places that is a total setup. (Burgos streetwalkers in Manila will pick a fight, and the cops come rescue them—taking you to a holding cell until you pay up.).

Well, the original girl swept in, and told the drunk girl that she was with me earlier. Whatever she said, the drunk girl faded away.

The original girl was now down to 600 RM, and was asking what I would pay. So, that would have been my chance to go in with 400, or whatever. It's midnight now, and there are more guys now, and she's invested a lot of the night on me, and might not get another guy. It is busier now; I don't know the ratio; maybe it was 2 girls to 1 guy. A lot more guys.

I had decided to take the girl out, and was working on getting a Grab.

SOME NOTES ON GRAB FROM BEACH CLUB! The taxi drivers out front are goddamn scum of the earth. I understand that they threaten Grab drivers. When I was walking out, the taxi driver said he would "smash" my Grab. No joke. Aggressive, aweful taxi drivers. The worst of them. My Grab cancelled—and I don't blame him, with all the aggressive taxi drivers out front, pissed that their taxi racket isn't what it used to be, now that there is Grab.

Walked away from Beach Club, down to the Shangri La. Again, it was feeling it was a little dangerous—this time based on the taxi driver mafia out front. I wanted away from them— and didn't want to get into a street fight with 20 taxi drivers by trying to climb in a Grab. Wasn't going to be a good time.

Walked over to the Shangri La. Taxi drivers didn't follow on foot. Got the Grab from the Shangri La. Next time, I'll tell the girl we are walking to the Shangri-La, and just walk straight there, without any delays out front of Beach Club with the taxi mob. From the guard station at the Shangri-La, got a new Grab, and it was a lady driver. Nice ride back to my hotel, chatting with the girl, and the lady driver.

Back to the girl: totally friendly, happy. Fucking amazing tattoos on her back—from Thailand, and Vietnam. Gorgeous body work that totally caught me by surprise. Her girl-next-door clothes covered all that up, in the bar. But showering with her—it was awesome.

I had her put her white shirt back on, with her white panties that looked like a butterfly in the back. Had her down on the floor, on a pillow, with her rear end facing a wall-length mirror as she blew me. Just a great girl. Yeah, a pro- but willing, and friendly, and great attitude.

And flexible. When spreading her legs they went all the way open- like with her feet together, her knees would be flat on the bed, legs spread. Really flexible young woman.

Lots of guys talk about how the girls are liars, etc. Whatever. This girl was perfectly nice. She makes money from sex. Fine. But, nice nonetheless. She also makes a business of buying things in the countries she goes to, posting them on Facebook, and selling them back home. Like a working-girl meets import / export businesswoman. More power to her.

Yeah, I paid the 600 RM. I know guys here quoting 350, plus tip. The girl stayed until noon the next day. When I gave her money, she said "My money!"—so happy. Sex a couple times was great, but so was hearing about her business of buying bags and perfumes, and selling them back home. A pro—but a pro with a sideline online import business.

That was last weekend. I'll go out again tonight.

Johnny.

Hotel Soleil is closed and nobody reported here?? Since when??

Did I miss that? Shit it was my safe be plan in KL for when at 3 am I did not find anything interesting.

What spa now? Hotel Nova also is gone long time ago.

[QUOTE=Johnny7973;2235559]I know the post is long;
<snip>
I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.
[/QUOTE]Johnny,

Thanks for the detailed posts.

You do not have to worry or second guess what other folks will like or dislike.
Your detailed accounts, based on your first hand experience, are MUCH better than the typical wham, bham, thank-you mam reports.

Looking forward to reading your exploits in KL. Thanks again.

BKKguru.

Every time I come to KL I add a bit of disappointment to the current value.

Yesterday night I found the Hotel Soleil closed for renovation work. It really needed that, but what about the spa?? It was a safe B Plan for me (damn autocorrector, which corrects it to the nonsense "be plan".

Beach Club is becoming worse and worse every time. I remember the magic emotion I was feeling on my early years in KL, whenever I was entering that wild playground in its old location. Viet girls were asking 200-250 rm.
Now, this is what I have seen in two nights.

1) 90% of girls are well-seasoned veterans, and I really mean that. I see faces that I have been seeing in BC for YEARS already. I am not exagerating. Some girls have 2, 3 even more years of experience working in BC, some also interleaving that with OT in Singapore. Not exactly the freshest virgins just arrived from village near HCM.

If I ask girls "How long have you been here?" they invariably reply "Too weeksh alleady". My second question is "Not the first time here, right?" which receives the reply "Second time here". One yesterday admitted "This work 2 monthsh in Singapore before", and another "4 yearsh working here already".

2) 99% are professional sharks, well trained by the hard environment to identify the best customer and squeeze out as much money as possible. Forget the naif girl who can hardly recognize the note denomination (awww the old times!

3) The standard rate is now 500 rm for short time. Yes. They ALL ask this, if not more than that. Princess types (and the gross truck drivers from East Europe) demand 600+. I neglected to ask overnight to not hear "800! or "1000"! (planning overnight since the beginning is not a good idea however).

I took two girls in these two nights, and it was always very long to negotiate down to 400, which is my threshold. I met a girl who was with me 1 or 2 years ago. After the first hugs, "how are you? "LTNS", etc etc. I told her that I had only 300 and she simply left me on place with a quick "bye".

The rich guys who do find reasonable to pay 200 USD for a quick fuck spoiled the place.

The other problem is that too much people exploits these girls. A long chain of people earns on them: the corrupted police, the agents, . At the end, the market stabilized to 500 rm for short time. And people pays that without an eyeblink!

4) The management of BC is so grossly bullshitting! But people deserves that, as they seem to appreciate. Yesterday, one of the bartenders was standing on the bar desk, dancing and showing a long ribbon advertising "PROMOTION TEQUILA SHOTS ONLY 10 RM" with a big smile stamped on face. He was holding the ribbon and a BOTTLE OF DON JULIO ANEJO, that is a very good and above-average expensive tequila. Frankly, I found not very credible they were giving Don Julio Anejo as 10 rm shot to the crowd. So, I went looking what was happening behind the bar. They were filling up the small glasses with some white liquid from a bottle without label.
And all the girls and Indian guys were pushing to buy a shot (don't they know Anejo is dark and not transparent as water?)

At the end, it was not so bad for me, however.

First night: an extremely pretty small girl. She was sexy and very good on doing things, but I've become hyper-demanding. I don't find attractive anymore the ultra-pro with 1 year and more of experience. I feel like a wheel in a macbine. I will forget soon.

Second night: this was different. This girl is new, only one month, and scared to go with her first Western man. Lots of problems in putting it insisde, because she was too tight. She was communicating with translator "I am unprofessional sorry". I prefer this kind of girls, even if they have no clue on what to do. At the end, I told her that she could do what she wanted, stay or leave, and after a while walking around the room she entered the bed to sleep. This morning at 9am she was still sleeping like an angel. 400 as agreed for ST (if I asked overnight in BC, she would have requested 800).

PS: Johnny, YOU ROCK! You did it right to not follow anyone in ChowKit. Those buildings can be a trap. On the other hand, the taxi mafia in front of BC is simply scum of heart. No danger, just noise. Leave them behind you and take a taxi or a grab from Shangri La.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2235691]Hotel Soleil is closed and nobody reported here?? Since when??

Did I miss that? Shit it was my safe be plan in KL for when at 3 am I did not find anything interesting.

What spa now? Hotel Nova also is gone long time ago.[/QUOTE]Hi.

I was little shocked yesterday when I arrived and saw Soleil was closed.

I loved their helthclub. I use to go there every day early when I am in KL. I really hope it will reopend when the renovation is over.

BL.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2235833]Hi.
I was little shocked yesterday when I arrived and saw Soleil was closed.
I loved their helthclub. I use to go there every day early when I am in KL. I really hope it will reopend when the renovation is over.
BL.[/QUOTE]Yes, same feeling here. What other spa on the model of Hotel Soleil and open after 2 am would you recommend? Just in case tonight I escape from BC because I see nobody interesting at a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2235836]Yes, same feeling here. What other spa on the model of Hotel Soleil and open after 2 am would you recommend? Just in case tonight I escape from BC because I see nobody interesting at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Hi.

I don't know. I always want to fuck early. Yesterday I went to the green elephant spa.

I payed 250 ringit for 45 min with a very nice girl.

BL.

[QUOTE=Johnny7973;2235564]Walked from Jalan Alor to Beach Club. Entry was 45 RM, including a drink ticket

That was last weekend. I'll go out again tonight.

Johnny.[/QUOTE]Hey hey Johnny boy. Doing some walking man! I am pretty fit and don't mind a stroll but you. My god and in the heat.

600 for an all niter is ok I think. As I said in my reports I only go ST but there is an offer to stay with no more money.

Keep reports coming.

NI.

Obviously Beach Club prices are DOLLARIZED.

As the value of the ringitt has plummeted from 3 to 3. 3 to 1 USD and considering the ringitt is now above 4 to 1 USD, the prices being quoted are simply in dollars.

This means a lot of stupid money on the premises, which allows for this to happen.

I went to Beach Club in the old days, when it was still 3 to 1 more or less. Hard core pros galore (though a friend who was willing to pay I think it was around 150 USD or so, had a nice experience with a Vietnamese girl, so he claimed). I could never get over the sticker shock.

[QUOTE=Johnny7973;2235564]Walked from Jalan Alor to Beach Club. Entry was 45 RM, including a drink ticket.

SOME NOTES ON GRAB FROM BEACH CLUB! The taxi drivers out front are goddamn scum of the earth. I understand that they threaten Grab drivers. When I was walking out, the taxi driver said he would "smash" my Grab. No joke. Aggressive, aweful taxi drivers. The worst of them. My Grab cancelledand I don't blame him, with all the aggressive taxi drivers out front, pissed that their taxi racket isn't what it used to be, now that there is Grab.

Walked away from Beach Club, down to the Shangri La. Again, it was feeling it was a little dangerousthis time based on the taxi driver mafia out front. I wanted away from them and didn't want to get into a street fight with 20 taxi drivers by trying to climb in a Grab. Wasn't going to be a good time.

Walked over to the Shangri La. Taxi drivers didn't follow on foot. Got the Grab from the Shangri La. Next time, I'll tell the girl we are walking to the Shangri-La, and just walk straight there, without any delays out front of Beach Club with the taxi mob. From the guard station at the Shangri-La, got a new Grab, and it was a lady driver. Nice ride back to my hotel, chatting with the girl, and the lady driver.

Johnny.[/QUOTE]Bro,

I hope you will share with us the taxi drivers car plate numbers or even the with a photo shot of the taxi drivers if possible. In KL we have tolerate enough with these bullies who call themselves taxi drivers, and we are doing some social network pressure together with media to expose the bullshit stuff of these people, we even have some good meida network to pressure the police force to do something with them too, the police always ask us to provide evidence or proof, maybe from here we can get your help with it. Perhaps you think its better to avoid, but if you can help us with some photos we can started to change the way it is. We don't tolerate these mafia, if they choose to use savage way to deal with business, than to improvise to be competitive, they can go to hell. Private message me if you need some help with it.

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Glad to get the feedback here. Good strategy NewImage: pay short-time, with offer to stay more for no more money. Clears out the girls that aren't interested, and keeps around the ones that are happy to be there.

Reading the forum more, I also realized that the girl I took out my first night in KL is likely the same girl as post #13958. Named 'Thao'—and I had a similar positive experience with her. Actually, similar experience with the girl "growing on you" also. Great girl. I called her up to come again, but it was quite early, and I wanted overnight. She agreed, but was kind of reluctant since it was so early—so I just let it go.

I went out for my 2nd night in KL last night, and this time I simply took a grab to Beach Club, and had the Grab drop me a block away, so I wouldn't have problems with the taxi mafia when leaving later.

This was a Saturday night 10 pm, 55 RM entry fee with one drink ticket, and it was much worse for guys than my prior Sunday night visit. When I arrived around 10 pm it was maybe equal ratio of guys-to-girls, with a lot of guys inside, in the center area, in front of the stage. Last Sunday there were multiple girls for every guy.

The first girl I came to I swear was a 9. (OK, next morning in the daylight she was a 7, but with mind blowing 'Perfect 10' for tits. It made me believe in the mystical. I'm starting to come to the church, after seeing those tits. It's like the Beatles song: "Then I saw her face, now I'm a Believer"—except with tits.).

In mid-life, some people go to India, and find an ashram, and find spirtuality. I'm not sure if I have achieved enlightment, but those breasts moved me. Profoundly. Maybe there is order in the universe. A higher purpose.

You know how much that girl asked for? Tall Vietnamese girl, silky skin-tight black dress, serious cleavage, hair that was ponytailed up high, but still hung down to her ass? She asked for 1,200 for long time. She asked 500 for one hour. I told her that, no, I wouldn't be taking her out. She didn't leave. I guess I was kind-of enjoying having her leaning up against me as I sat in the chair. Heck, when I was 20 it would have been a dream, just to have this girl laying up alongside me. Anyway, I told her I wasn't taking her out at 1,200, and we kinda ran out of things to talk about. Kinda killed the mood.

I "released" her again a couple times, and she eventually went looking for another guy. Said she had been in KL for three days, and stated 27 years old.

I then talked to girl-after-girl. Almost all were quoting 1,200 overnight. I overheard one girl quote 1,000 to a guy as I walked by. I'm not really into live music, but the band actually played a couple songs I like—so I was at the bar, and made friends with a couple girls. One girl shoved her friend into me—playfully. All fun.

Ended up with a friendly girl alongside the bar, a little chubby, but warm. Had her up against me for a while, then, then I would circle the floor, and come back to her. Eventually she quoted 1,000 for long time. I offered 600, and she wasn't down with that. I know guys post that they are pulling at 400, but this girl wasn't going for 600 long time. Maybe later in the night.

The men-to-women ratio got worse and worse as the night progressed. More and more guys kept coming. By midnight, I saw some of the girls that quoted me 1,200 leaving with new guy friends. I don't know what they negotiated, but it was the same girls that quoted me 1,200.

One girl quoted me 1,300. That was a short conversation.

Then, two slightly rough girls from Indonesia quoted 1,000.and then dropped it to 700 instantly, if I took both of them long time. I couldn't tell if they would be a ton of fun, or maybe a tad of trouble. Couldn't tell which way it would go- fun and rambunctious, or slipping into aggressive later at the hotel. Maybe would have been fun. Likely my trouble-radar was over-tuned, and hitting on false-positives. But, if you've ever ignored that trouble-radar, then regretted it later at the hotel, you might tend to be a little more cautious on later occasions. I guess I am. Some guy came up to one of the two Indonesian girls, and I slipped away; he seemed more genuinely interested.

It was getting worse-and-worse, in terms of men-to-women ratio. There was a big group of guys with sports shirts with Philippine icons on them. (Like the Philippines sun symbol, on the shoulder.) No problem with the guys—looked like they were out to have a good time- but I didn't get the story on the Philippine sports shirts. Not Filipinos.

I got sick of circling, and the high quotes. Even fairly average girls were quoting 1,200. Is she a 6? A 7? I dunno; kind of cute, but not a model. And price is. 1,200. I don't really drink, but I also didn't like just wandering, so I had ordered a couple drinks. That wasn't working out great for me, as having my head spin wasn't so helpful when trying to talk to the girls. I walked out, and down the street to the Thai place. A heavy, grandmother-aged woman on the street engaged me, offering a line-up of girls that would come to my room for 250 RM. "You choose. " I asked where the girls were, and she said she would call them over to the 7-Eleven. I don't know; street dealings through an intermediary didn't sound so good. I'the rather talk directly to the girl. The grandmother gave me a business card, and said she could also send a girl to the room later. I asked when payment was made, and she first said 'to the driver'; that didn't sound good, so she said 'to the girl, before she starts her work.'

Also: I can't see "RM" and not think Reichsmark. ('Reich Mark. ') I know it's not right; that it isn't good. Still comes to mind, every damn time.

The Thai place was not any better than Beach Club. I saw a girl working to make eye contact, and I went to the patio area to talk to her. Quoted 700 long-time. She was perfectly average. I guess that makes her a 5. Attitude counts for a lot, so I sat down for a drink. Ordered one for me, then she had a weird request that put me off. If I would give her the cash, she would go inside and get a drink for herself, and come back. I assume she would pocket a bit, or go pick up a glass she already had, or whatever. Anyway, it put me off, and I was ready to walk out- but had already ordered my drink. Not a good idea to skip out on an order, so I walked over and found the waiter, who already had the drink. There was like a 42 RM cover to enter that place, but with the drink I bought at 38 RM, they let me in. The girl followed me, and presented herself again-and-again. I finally asked if she would allow CIM, and when that was no good for her, I left. (I don't really care about CIM, but it's a bit of a litmus test; if they are down with that, they are often more fun at home, even if I never really CIM.).

Walked the street a bit, and then back up to Beach Club. It is a little after midnight now, about 2. 5 hours since I arrived. Lots of guys. If I come back to Beach Club, I would either go early—before all the guys come- or late, when the girls are more willing to negotiate off that 1,000+ perch.

Talked to another cute girl; another 1,200 quote. I said last weekend I paid 600, and she said "Nobody here will go out for that. " OK, well—the girl last weekend did, and she was great. No hard feelings to this new girl; she departed.

Then—that Vietnamese girl with the boobs came by. I had seen her talking to guys, as I circled, but she hadn't found anybody willing to pay her premium. She was looking a little worn out—and I sure as hell was. Actually, when standing to the side at various moments, I would close my eyes and think of this girl. 2 years from now, it won't matter what I paid her, but I'll remember the girl. I had the same thing in Moscow, where I didn't take the girl because it was 'too much' and I didn't exactly regret it, but frequently thought of her years later. "Hell, I should have taken her, that girl back in Moscow."

Anyway, I was pretty tired of circling, and starting the same conversation from scratch again and again. And, this girl was in a slinky dress, and she was now in more of a mood to negotiate. I could have waited until even later, and got it for even less- but that's like getting a half-price ticket to a movie that's half-over. Price is lower for the long-time, but you missed half the night with the girl. Ends up at same price per hour of company.

Made a deal. Walked out into very light rain. Walked a bit, and got a Grab.

Girl was OK at home. Nothing wrong, but just not that warm. But those tits. I have literally never in my life seen real tits like that. I assumed they were going to be a man-made silicone wonder —and a well crafted one at that. But, no. They were real. 38-C. (I asked.) I didn't know that real boobs came like that. I kept thinking that they were comically perfect. Laying in bed with the girl, that is the term that kept coming to mind for her tits: "comically perfect. " Like, only seen in drawings.

At the same time, it was a tragedy of Greek proportions. I mean, if tits can be this good, why aren't more of them this good? I thought physics or evolution or human physiology prevented boobs like that from really existing on the hoof. Now that I know it is possible, I'm a little angry at god for not making more of them. I mean, I wasn't even believing in god until I saw those boobs—but now I've seen the light, I believe in Him, and I'm a little angry. Spread the joy man. WTF. If you can make boobs like that, make more! So guys-- if you see this girl, Cherry, you might take her for the boobs. Nice enough girl, I guess; not super warm, and had a bit of a long bathroom routine with face scrubs and eyelash removal and blah-blah-blah. Bad blowjob. But, those boobs. I wish I had a photo. Then again, the image is seared in my mind. I won't forget. The boobs were perfect, and there were two of them, side-by-side. Just below her face. On her chest. Oh god. Boobs.

Three pops. She was best when on top. Slept till noon. For a writeup this long, you'the think I'the focus on those dirty bits more.

Johnny.

[QUOTE=Johnny7973;2236037]Glad to get the feedback here. [/QUOTE]You are the Man.

I was in BC from 23.30 to 1 am RIGHT YESTERDAY Sunday as you. I must have seen you and the dream tits girl. I wonder who you are ehehe.

I am now going to Batam. Another universe. I am on bus and I cannot write long, but I will write about me.

Let me just say I am. Totally sympathetic with you. We have same mindset.

I finally left to avoid spending again so much with uncertain perspective, but I regret as you some dolls, real dolls. But now a doll without GFE does not excite me much anymore. Getting old.

I finally moved to Green Elephant, where only baby elephants were available indeed, and then to Federal, where I enjoyed a nice 45 minutes without hurry with a very nice Indonesian girl from Jakarta.

(Johnny you rock!)^2.

What were they asking for ST?

1200 for LT seems bizarre. That's 288 US. You got to be joking.

Re taxi scammers- as I walk out they will attack. I just walk swiftly past saying I am staying at a hotel just around the corner eg Fraser / Cabana or some other BS hotel or going to a nearby restaurant for a bite to eat.

When they push Viagra I hold my fist tight and say me strong, don't need, laughing as I do it. After about 10/15 steps you are away from the scumbags and after walking past Healy Macs just get a cab there.

As said they are the scum of the earth ripping off foreigners, pressuring the girls and sometimes worse.

Just walk confidently past, don't stop and don't give them any shit just smile and under your breath say Fuck off scumbags.

Hi.

I saw a sign about the spa at Hotel Soleil. Its closed 3 months and has moved temporary to Sky River Spa and Fuji Spa.

BL.

The spa on the backside of Fahrenheit, basement, is currently closed for renovations. I've been inside and talked to the guy, they ripped everything out, a mess. Duration probably one month+.

A pleasant afternoon. I had a Chinese girl, 27 according to her own account, slim, sexy. Good. Not great, but very pleasant. The place is cool, even after only been there once they treat you well, free tea, oj afterwards in the lounge. Again, everything pleasant.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2236252]
Re taxi scammers- as I walk out they will attack. I just walk swiftly past saying I am staying at a hotel just around the corner eg Fraser / Cabana or some other BS hotel or going to a nearby restaurant for a bite to eat..[/QUOTE]Maybe you like to entertain conversation with them.

I am more straightforward. I just walk ignoring them and pushing them away with my chest if they block my way, holding tight the hand of the girl (who is gentle enough to not try this basic approach). You know, on a smaller scale, the same basic technique of ice breaker boats.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2236295]
I saw a sign about the spa at Hotel Soleil. Its closed 3 months and has moved temporary to Sky River Spa and Fuji Spa.[/QUOTE]Also Alpha Genesis Spa has been closed more than one year ago! (I went to the hotel and asked).

I wonder what are they doing to Hotel Soleil. Maybe as it happened to Nova? Now it's Trevelodge, and of course no spa.

Hello folks,

I need help with in locating a girl / Couple friendly hotel in KL, I am traveling to KL and plan to have my Indonesia GF stay with me while I am in KL. ON trip advisor I came across this rule which says non married couples are not allowed in same room and specially if occupants and Muslims. Hotels can inform authorities and people arrested, my girl is Muslim and I am not but both of us as foreigners. Does this applies to us or someone with similar situations on the forum had any issues during the stay.

Please share your experience or point to some couple friendly hotel. I am an older member of the forum since 2008 lost my old account so created new one. Any pointers from fellow members will be highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Sexnomad;2237648]Hello folks,

I need help with in locating a girl / Couple friendly hotel in KL, I am traveling to KL and plan to have my Indonesia GF stay with me while I am in KL. ON trip advisor I came across this rule which says non married couples are not allowed in same room and specially if occupants and Muslims. Hotels can inform authorities and people arrested, my girl is Muslim and I am not but both of us as foreigners. Does this applies to us or someone with similar situations on the forum had any issues during the stay.

Please share your experience or point to some couple friendly hotel. I am an older member of the forum since 2008 lost my old account so created new one. Any pointers from fellow members will be highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't think there are any issues, with hotel, I love Berjaya hotel, if you can afford it then go to their website directly and book premier rooms, not available through discount website. There they treat you and your guest like a important person even check in is at level 24 and restaurant is different. Worth extra money you will spend with them.

[QUOTE=Sexnomad;2237648]Hello folks,

I need help with in locating a girl / Couple friendly hotel in KL, I am traveling to KL and plan to have my Indonesia GF stay with me while I am in KL. ON trip advisor I came across this rule which says non married couples are not allowed in same room and specially if occupants and Muslims. Hotels can inform authorities and people arrested, my girl is Muslim and I am not but both of us as foreigners. Does this applies to us or someone with similar situations on the forum had any issues during the stay.

Please share your experience or point to some couple friendly hotel. I am an older member of the forum since 2008 lost my old account so created new one. Any pointers from fellow members will be highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]All hotels from 4* up are 100% girl-friendly in KL. Should you read some pages on this Forum (did you? You should know that too. Yes, RTFF. If you add that they are also cheap, I would not hesitate to book a room in a good hotel instead of a cheap hole.

You want to avoid any risk to register your lady with you? Book the room under your name, for 1 or 2 it makes no difference unless you plan to have breakfast there. Checkin, and from that time on you will be free to come and go with your lady, with a another, with another again, with all three together. This is what I always did in KL. Yes, I did not try to enter holding the hand of a lady in hijab, but I welcomed Viets, Indo, Thai, Pinay, and also Muslim Malay.

If you were in KL between 2004 till 2010, it was heaven for quality girls mostly from Philippines (majority of them), Some Indonesians and small amount of Vietnamese and locals talent.

I visited KL this year, believe it or not, saw one African and one East European truck driver that use to hang around beach club in 2010, and really disgusting Russians. I felt I want to throw up, this beach club has past its prime.

One upon a time I picked up cute little sabahan, fucked her all night, and when I slide 300 MYR in her purse, she refused but I forced her to keep the money anyway.

R. I. P beach club you will be missed.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2235827]Every time I come to KL I add a bit of disappointment to the current value.

Yesterday night I found the Hotel Soleil closed for renovation work. It really needed that, but what about the spa?? It was a safe B Plan for me (damn autocorrector, which corrects it to the nonsense "be plan".

Beach Club is becoming worse and worse every time. I remember the magic emotion I was feeling on my early years in KL, whenever I was entering that wild playground in its old location. Viet girls were asking 200-250 rm.
Now, this is what I have seen in two nights..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2238084]If you were in KL between 2004 till 2010, it was heaven for quality girls mostly from Philippines (majority of them)[/QUOTE]Dear Mohd,

actually, I went there for my first time more than 10 years ago, in 2008. I think there are not many regular posters here in 2018 who are still active after 10 years.

Interestingly, the first thing I did was to explore the street scene
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?988-Kuala-Lumpur&p=740071&viewfull=1#post740071[/URL]
and then in one of my first reports from there I immediately complained that Beach Club was not good enough
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?988-Kuala-Lumpur&p=740239&viewfull=1#post740239[/URL]

Too bad for me. I was hyper-demanding even 10 years ago. I soon understood that BC was good enough, and the best was the Pinays.

From 2008 on, I wrote quite a long series of reports from BC and other locations, every time I went visiting. Now, I am a bit tired to repeat the same, so I don't report in detail everything I do anymore.

The price for young Viets in BC at that time was around 200 RM. I remember that number, as it was the same price as I was requested by Viet girls in Ipanema Singapore, but here 200 was RM, there SGD. Quite a difference.

Hi chaps,

Some really useful comments on the scene in KK but I hope someone can answer my question. I will be in KL but sharing an apartment. Do the girls at BC only do outcalls?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Donaldsenden;2238443]Hi chaps,

Some really useful comments on the scene in KK but I hope someone can answer my question. I will be in KL but sharing an apartment. Do the girls at BC only do outcalls?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]If a girl will accept money to go to your place, its almost certain that she will accept money to escort you to a nearby hotel, if you can't take her home. Its not likely they would be living anywhere posh anyways, if they wouldn't want to take you to their place (if that's what you mean).

I hope you realize that there is much, much more to KL than the Beach Club. While not exactly a good mongering destination (but a great place for a layover) you have more options than the well beaten path to one particular club where Westerners apparently flock to like moths to a fire, to hook up with girls who will charge you more than the local price for what could be mediocre service. I asked a local punter I hung with what he thought of the place and he responded that it was expensive and yes, the service could be good for that price. But also it could be disappointing, and it wasn't a place he would go to. You didn't mention where you are staying, but KL is a large, sprawling metropolis, and there are brothels operating as under the guise of massage parlors scattered throughout the various neighborhoods of the metropolitan area. And they do advertise on the internet, and yes it is fairly easy to determine their orientation by the nature of their content. Again, KL is not a premier mongering destination for those passing through. But, it hits me as a good place for the locals to monger, as there are places in different neighborhoods (I. E. Close to home) and they are inconspicuous among other legit businesses, so you are not seen entering a red light distance or anything marked as a sexually oriented business. Very different from Thailand, but probably works out well for the married man who needs to slip out for some discreet fun when he says he is to be going to the hardware store.

In any case, you will need to look beyond this forum for those info on those other options. But you probably know how to google a topic. A bit of research on the internet and possibly a visit to some more focused punting forums could open up a whole set of options that would never be discussed here. I would send your some pointers via a PM, but you appear to be a regular member and don't have that option, yet. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2238482]If a girl will accept money to go to your place, its almost certain that she will accept money to escort you to a nearby hotel, if you can't take her home. Its not likely they would be living anywhere posh anyways, if they wouldn't want to take you to their place (if that's what you mean).

I hope you realize that there is much, much more to KL than the Beach Club. While not exactly a good mongering destination (but a great place for a layover) you have more options than the well beaten path to one particular club where Westerners apparently flock to like moths to a fire, to hook up with girls who will charge you more than the local price for what could be mediocre service. I asked a local punter I hung with what he thought of the place and he responded that it was expensive and yes, the service could be good for that price. But also it could be disappointing, and it wasn't a place he would go to. You didn't mention where you are staying, but KL is a large, sprawling metropolis, and there are brothels operating as under the guise of massage parlors scattered throughout the various neighborhoods of the metropolitan area. And they do advertise on the internet, and yes it is fairly easy to determine their orientation by the nature of their content. Again, KL is not a premier mongering destination for those passing through. But, it hits me as a good place for the locals to monger, as there are places in different neighborhoods (I. E. Close to home) and they are inconspicuous among other legit businesses, so you are not seen entering a red light distance or anything marked as a sexually oriented business..[/QUOTE]Thanks. I take your point. I read that the service in massage places / spas generally doesn't include DFK or CIM services, hence the idea to try beach club for freelancers but if I am unable to go back to their apartment for an hour, I may have to try spas instead. I am staying close to Bukit Bintang and think I might try Bond Spa and Sky River. Other than these, what are the best recommendations?

I will be in Malaysia for the first time. I'm looking for Spas / PMs providing sexual services. After reading the forum I realized that many mentioned here before are closed (permanently or temporary) now like for examle Genesis spa, spa at hotel Soleil and hotel Nova.

Could you recommend some good Spas / PMs that are open? What are the prices?

I have a basic question concerning Spa / PM providing sexual services. What should I expect in generla in the price that I find on the website in case that there is not detailed description:

A) CBJ, sex in one position, 45 min, 1 shot?

B) BBBJ, sex in diferent position, 1 hour or more, 2 shots?

Are Spa / PM in other Malesia region in general lower quqlity thqn in KL?

Many thanks for any hints.

Is it possible to buy in official pharmacies Viagra or Kamagra without a prescription? If yes, what are the prices?

[QUOTE=Otari;2239398]

I have a basic question concerning Spa / PM providing sexual services. What should I expect in generla in the price that I find on the website in case that there is not detailed description:

A) CBJ, sex in one position, 45 min, 1 shot?

B) BBBJ, sex in diferent position, 1 hour or more, 2 shots?

Are Spa / PM in other Malesia region in general lower quqlity thqn in KL?

Many thanks for any hints.[/QUOTE]In my limited experience in KL I always had BBBJ, sex in different position, 1 shot, 45 min. Some girls did FK, some didn't.

[QUOTE=Otari;2239398]I will be in Malaysia for the first time. I'm looking for Spas / PMs providing sexual services. After reading the forum I realized that many mentioned here before are closed (permanently or temporary) now like for examle Genesis spa, spa at hotel Soleil and hotel Nova.

Could you recommend some good Spas / PMs that are open? What are the prices?

I have a basic question concerning Spa / PM providing sexual services. What should I expect in generla in the price that I find on the website in case that there is not detailed description:

A) CBJ, sex in one position, 45 min, 1 shot?

B) BBBJ, sex in diferent position, 1 hour or more, 2 shots?

Are Spa / PM in other Malesia region in general lower quqlity thqn in KL?

Many thanks for any hints.[/QUOTE]Could you recommend some good Spas / PMs that are open? What are the prices? = Depends on girls. Whereas there is a SOP I find depends largely on the girl. Have had excellent GFE, also had lame dead fish going through the motions service. My advice Skyriver Spa back of Fahrenheit.

I have a basic question concerning Spa / PM providing sexual services. What should I expect in generla in the price that I find on the website in case that there is not detailed description:

A) CBJ, sex in one position, 45 min, 1 shot? = my exp. Come in wash, sometimes with sometimes without, 20 min massage, BBBJ, Covered sex many pos, 1 shot, wash again out the door. But depends on girl.

B) BBBJ, sex in different position, 1 hour or more, 2 shots?

Are Spa / PM in other Malesia region in general lower quqlity thqn in KL? Found spas in KL much better than Penang. My only comparison.

As with many WG the world over service levels differ greatly. These points may help. At line up don't choose prettiest. Choose one who wants to be with you. Smiling, eager.

Treat with respect and reward good service with promise I'll be back.

Found great girl in a spa who loved to be with me because the way I treat her and gave me GFE time after time but I still paid regular rate with small tip.

Stay away from PRC. Found they are too much money focused.

Many thanks NewImage and Christian It's really helpful!

Thanks BP and Sydpat for your response have decided to stay at Hilton Kl.

[QUOTE=Sydpat;2237698]I don't think there are any issues, with hotel, I love Berjaya hotel, if you can afford it then go to their website directly and book premier rooms, not available through discount website. There they treat you and your guest like a important person even check in is at level 24 and restaurant is different. Worth extra money you will spend with them.[/QUOTE]

Now; I was wondering if you can buy "proper" Viagra in a pharmacy in KL.

Without a prescription?

What's the price?

(rather than buying off the street; not being sure what's in the tab).

Also; any chance of any hassle if I take some Viagra with me in my bag; from Customs on arrival at KL?

(without a prescription).

[QUOTE=JackLad100;2241789]Now; I was wondering if you can buy "proper" Viagra in a pharmacy in KL.

Without a prescription?

What's the price?

(rather than buying off the street; not being sure what's in the tab).

Also; any chance of any hassle if I take some Viagra with me in my bag; from Customs on arrival at KL?

(without a prescription).[/QUOTE]My 2 cents. Buy it at home then you know what you are getting. Never been hassled at airport but then again don't walk in with it hanging out my back pocket.

I'm sure the stuff the Mafia try to sell you outside BC is the real stuff.

I was in KL about 5 years ago and wanted some viagra. Went to a pharmacy and said I was there on holidays and could I get viagra without a prescription. Not a problem.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2241904]I was in KL about 5 years ago and wanted some viagra. Went to a pharmacy and said I was there on holidays and could I get viagra without a prescription. Not a problem.[/QUOTE]What was the price?

[QUOTE=Otari;2242167]What was the price?[/QUOTE]Can't really remember, I think it was before viagra become cheap so it was probablyexpensive. Now days I don't think price is an issue with viagra. Even online prices arn't much cheaper than retail.

If you coming to KL specifically for mongering?

Unless this is your business trip, I will not go to kl for just mongering, there much better options available.

Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia should be tour to go places.

Malaysia is expensive, not very mongering friendly. You will screwing mostly foreigners such as Vietnamese, Thai, or Philippines.

Last claim, Malaysia does not hold a candle to these countries I mentioned above.

[QUOTE=Otari;2239398]I will be in Malaysia for the first time. I'm looking for Spas / PMs providing sexual services. After reading the forum I realized that many mentioned here before are closed (permanently or temporary) now like for examle Genesis spa, spa at hotel Soleil and hotel Nova.

Could you recommend some good Spas / PMs that are open? What are the prices?

I have a basic question concerning Spa / PM providing sexual services. What should I expect in generla in the price that I find on the website in case that there is not detailed description:

A) CBJ, sex in one position, 45 min, 1 shot?

B) BBBJ, sex in diferent position, 1 hour or more, 2 shots?

Are Spa / PM in other Malesia region in general lower quqlity thqn in KL?

Many thanks for any hints.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2242592]If you coming to KL specifically for mongering?
Unless this is your business trip, I will not go to kl for just mongering, there much better options available.
Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia should be tour to go places.
Malaysia is expensive, not very mongering friendly. You will screwing mostly foreigners such as Vietnamese, Thai, or Philippines.
List claim, Malaysia does not hold a candle to these countries I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]Now not disagreeing but clarification is needed.

Have mongered in most of the well known SEA countries / places and quite frankly I would prefer KL to Pattaya or Bangkok, Bali or Manila.

Yes more expensive, well for some, Yes not the same volume and Yes Phil girls and Thai girls can be "more naughty".

But what I like about KL is I can stay in a very comfortable 4 star hotel, walk for about 10/15 minutes to a bar, not be pressured to buy lady drinks, have a choice from about 40 - 60 girls, walk back to my hotel room and have a good session.

In my experience in Kl I feel safe at night anywhere, I have a choice of good restaurants and I find it is not hard to pick up a quality girl who is not a hardened pro. Yes I am biased towards Viets but Viets in Vietnam do pose problems.

But that's just my opinion and that's all it is. An opinion. What works for me may not work for you.

My suggestion is try different places and find your best fit.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2242860]But what I like about KL is I can stay in a very comfortable 4 star hotel, walk for about 10/15 minutes to a bar, not be pressured to buy lady drinks, have a choice from about 40 - 60 girls, walk back to my hotel room and have a good session.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking I have to agree with you. Kl is a relatively western and modern city where the people speak great English so it is easy to move around and explore. Price wise the food and living expenses are not very expensive although Thailand and Philippines are probably cheaper to live in they are also less structured.

My question to you is which bar can you have a choice of 40-60 girls? You mean regular people or real working girls? You're certainly not referring to beach club or the Thai bar are you?

[QUOTE=ShinyMewtwo;2242980]Generally speaking I have to agree with you. Kl is a relatively western and modern city where the people speak great English so it is easy to move around and explore. Price wise the food and living expenses are not very expensive although Thailand and Philippines are probably cheaper to live in they are also less structured.

My question to you is which bar can you have a choice of 40-60 girls? You mean regular people or real working girls? You're certainly not referring to beach club or the Thai bar are you?[/QUOTE]Ok maybe BC might have 30 - 40 and Thai club another 30 or so within 400 m radius 60 or so. Depends if you count LB LOL.

But point is more than enough choice. Apologies for my powers of estimation.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2243074]Ok maybe BC might have 30 - 40 and Thai club another 30 or so within 400 m radius 60 or so. Depends if you count LB LOL.[/QUOTE]BC sees a number of WLs showing up each night on the order of 30-50. More than 30 for sure. Your estimation is not wrong.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1989544]Last Day in Kl. Flying out early afternoon. Thought re visit Sky river Spa (popped into Green Elephant once during stay - 258 RM girls of lesser quality thought better options elsewhere left).

Arrived 1 pm. Smaller line up. Mai was there but hair different and after so many difficult to spot but she smiled and I chose her not realizing it was her. She was over the moon. Grabbed my hand and led me to paradise.

This time quick shower, long lost GFE, DFK, BBBJ, FJ not covered, had time to relax and talk after the act. Found out could have taken her for 6 hrs outside for 700 RM. Now they tell me.

Left totally satisfied and wishing trip was longer.

Damage: 218 RM why 10 RM price hike? Gave 50 RM tip. Rating: 9+.

Thoughts for next time:.[/QUOTE]Very nice info tho its over 2 years old you help the brothers here a lot.

Hey guys,

I was in KL from 1 - 6 Nov 2018.

Was there with some friends; mainly to watch the Moto GP race.

But I booked into the Federal Hotel.

Which has a "Spa" on the Ground FL.

Very convenient to get girls delivered to your hotel room.

Price: 300 for Thai and PRC girls.

220 for Indo and Loas girls.

Usually have about 10 girls to choose from.

Nice, tasty, girls in their 20's.

Definitely can recommend.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;2245603]
But I booked into the Federal Hotel.
Which has a "Spa" on the Ground FL.
[/QUOTE]The Federal Hotel Spa is well known and well reported here. Not new, but nice to read further reports anyway.

I was there once in my last trip to KL, really desperate after leaving BC at 2 am without seeing anyone interesting to my eyes for less than 500 RM.

I add one more detail: the papi is really a special character, and I really mean "character". Long hair on the back, ruined face, not really ceremonious with the customer, neither kind with girls. On the contrary: sharp with me and super-rude with girls.

Sharp with me? He told me to sit, he showed me two girls, then disappeared and went smoking where he was before. After 10 minutes that I was waiting alone, without knowing what was going to happen next, I came out and asked him: "Then what?". He simply replied annoyed "Ah you want to see more? Then you must wait because they are busy now". I chose one of the first two (Indo), and it was good.

Rude with girls? He was giving orders to them like a Sergeant to his recruits, calling them even "chicken". Yes, I am not joking: "Come here CHICKEN! Stand up!" with very sharp and rude voice. "Ayam" is a popular deprecative way to call girls working in this kind of houses.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2242592]If you coming to KL specifically for mongering?

Unless this is your business trip, I will not go to kl for just mongering, there much better options available.

Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia should be tour to go places.

Malaysia is expensive, not very mongering friendly. You will screwing mostly foreigners such as Vietnamese, Thai, or Philippines.

Last claim, Malaysia does not hold a candle to these countries I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not coming to KL special for mongering. I'm coming for sightseeing and I will move around the country. However I like to combine 'regular' tourism with some mongering. Is KL the best place for mongering or other place like for example Malakka (or even smaller but touristic cities) could be a good option as well?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2242860]N

Have mongered in most of the well known SEA countries / places and quite frankly I would prefer KL to Pattaya or Bangkok, Bali or Manila.

But what I like about KL is I can stay in a very comfortable 4 star hotel, walk for about 10/15 minutes to a bar, not be pressured to buy lady drinks, have a choice from about 40 - 60 girls, walk back to my hotel room and have a good session.[/QUOTE]If you had been to those other locations, you should know the scenario you describe is available in those places, as well. Where in Bali did you need to buy "lady drinks"? I bought drinks for bar girls only in Patts and BKK, only when I desired their pleasant conversational skills and a back rub. What I picked up and brought back to my room was as easy as it comes and didn't so much as require a cab ride because I was always a short walk from my room.

BTW, where in KL do you have a choice of about 40 - 60 girls other than ACE / Richmoore Hotel?

[QUOTE=Otari;2246286]Is KL the best place for mongering or other place like for example Malakka (or even smaller but touristic cities) could be a good option as well?[/QUOTE]KL has the biggest range of chicks available, and that is not saying much. Everywhere else will suck, with extremely limited options.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2246337]If you had been to those other locations, you should know the scenario you describe is available in those places, as well. Where in Bali did you need to buy "lady drinks"? I bought drinks for bar girls only in Patts and BKK, only when I desired their pleasant conversational skills and a back rub. What I picked up and brought back to my room was as easy as it comes and didn't so much as require a cab ride because I was always a short walk from my room.

BTW, where in KL do you have a choice of about 40 - 60 girls other than ACE / Richmoore Hotel?[/QUOTE]The combination of Beach Club and Thai Club (across the road from each other), has that as a bare minimum, pretty much every night of the week. Likely peaks out at more than 80 girls across the two venues on busy nights.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2246472]The combination of Beach Club and Thai Club (across the road from each other), has that as a bare minimum, pretty much every night of the week. Likely peaks out at more than 80 girls across the two venues on busy nights.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct, as also recalled by New Image before.

Plus the 30+ who hang out at Changkat, peaking on weekends (but overall they are way less attractive yet more expensive: I think they consider themselves more higher-end).

Going to KL and limiting mongering activities to ACE is just like going to Paris and limiting the culinary experience to the fast food places around Pigalle.

Am just giving my opinions and observations.

I am not saying KL is the BEST mongering place in the world but what criteria are we using? And how do we weigh differing things like ease of getting around? No. Of girls, service, hotel facilities etc etc.

If people do not like what is being offered at KL I am happy for them to go somewhere else.

Just like the beauty of a girl different places are in " the eye of the beholder".

BTW this comment " BTW, where in KL do you have a choice of about 40 - 60 girls other than ACE / Richmoore Hotel?" ...have you been to KL and BC and Richmore personally??????..or are you just basing your opinions on reports????????

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2246755]Am just giving my opinions and observations.

I am not saying KL is the BEST mongering place in the world but what criteria are we using? And how do we weigh differing things like ease of getting around? No. Of girls, service, hotel facilities etc etc.

If people do not like what is being offered at KL I am happy for them to go somewhere else.

Just like the beauty of a girl different places are in " the eye of the beholder".

BTW this comment " BTW, where in KL do you have a choice of about 40 - 60 girls other than ACE / Richmoore Hotel?" ...have you been to KL and BC and Richmore personally??????..or are you just basing your opinions on reports????????

NI.[/QUOTE]Yes. I have actually been to KL, have you? I have attached my passport stamps below. Can you do the same?

Have I been to Richmoore personally? Ask Franga. We met up there last March. Didn't bother with Beach Club, because my local acquaintances described as a place where Westerners go to hang out with other Westerners and get overcharged by Vietnamese girls for service that can be good or not be good at a premium price, either way.

Ease of getting around? KL has an excellent public transport system and you will need it to take advantage of its various mongering destinations. Hotel facilities? Yes, they have nice hotels in Thailand and Bali, where they actually provide you with service and facilities. And swimming pools.

Etc. Etc? I don't know what that's supposed to refer to.

Girls? KL is definitely at a handicap there, since a lot of them are walking around in hijab and they are the most overweight in all of Asia (a statistical fact, not a personal observation).

KL is definitely not the best mongering place in the world, and no experienced monger would try to pitch it advantages over any of the major destinations in Thailand, Indonesia or the PI.

BTW is your question mark key stuck?

I'll be in KL end of next week, passing through en route to London but breaking the journey for a two days / nights. Anybody know of a good shop for buying Tongkat Ali at decent prices?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2246755]
BTW this comment " BTW, where in KL do you have a choice of about 40 - 60 girls other than ACE / Richmoore Hotel?" ...have you been to KL and BC and Richmore personally??????..or are you just basing your opinions on reports????????.[/QUOTE]Guess what? Check his list of posts. Years of posts.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246926]Guess what? Check his list of posts. Years of posts.[/QUOTE]Thanks BP. I knew by his regular posting that he had a wide range of experiences but by his tone and responses I wasn't sure he had been to KL, more specifically BC and Richmore.

Seems like you can't exercise your right to have an opinion on this board and have to be an "experienced monger" to have credibility.

I am ok with not being seen by others as an "experienced monger" as in the list of human achievements not sure where this title would rank. Leave that for others to ponder.

Knew a guy once who used to boast about getting a hand job from a gorgeous Malaysian girl, hijab and all, at a genuine massage shop in KL.

He would advise others on the methods, tactics and secret words to get this service as he had successfully got this over 30 or more times.

I walked in one day and said to this girl " can we fuck?" and she said "Sure".

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2246985]Seems like you can't exercise your right to have an opinion on this board and have to be an "experienced monger" to have credibility.

NI.[/QUOTE]Stop playing the victim. You make a dubious comment anywhere, in any situation, and you can expect to be called on it. I dare you to go onto the Philippines or Thailand forums and post a comment like:

"Have mongered in most of the well known SEA countries / places and quite frankly I would prefer KL to Pattaya or Bangkok, Bali or Manila. But what I like about KL is I can stay in a very comfortable 4 star hotel, walk for about 10/15 minutes to a bar, not be pressured to buy lady drinks, have a choice from about 40 - 60 girls, walk back to my hotel room and have a good session. ". The response on those threads will be a lot less polite, rest assured.

If you prefer KL, that's fine. KL is an overlooked destination with its unique merits. I can see how some guys could find their sweet spot in that city. From a culinary aspect, KL is a destination in itself, and upscale hotels are among the cheapest in the world. The public transport system is the most modern I've ever rode across (and you will need it). But to suggest it has any unique advantages like 4-star hotels, walkability, relaxed drinking establishments, good sex and wide choices for girls pushes the limits of credibility.

At least you appear to have fixed or replaced that sticky key on your keyboard.

Melaka, Penang or langkawi (most visited tourist attractions), you only option will be hotel spa, or massage centers.

You will be mostly screwing Indon, PRCs and Vietnamese.

You might get lucky in high end hotels for local Malays or Indians, Chinese.

Majority of action is in KL with wide variety of overseas girls.

Melaka not too far from kl, only have mostly spas or massage centers, but no clubs like BC or Tc in Kl.

Happy traveling.

[QUOTE=Otari;2246286]No, I'm not coming to KL special for mongering. I'm coming for sightseeing and I will move around the country. However I like to combine 'regular' tourism with some mongering. Is KL the best place for mongering or other place like for example Malakka (or even smaller but touristic cities) could be a good option as well?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2246985]Thanks BP. I knew by his regular posting that he had a wide range of experiences but by his tone and responses I wasn't sure he had been to KL, more specifically BC and Richmore.[/QUOTE]Well, from the history of posts of dubious posters you can also check if 95% are informative contributions or to challenge others. That says a lot.

About hijab, I still have the firm memory of a nice lady in Batam, met via WeChat, who I remember in particular (besides her wonderful tits) for two phrases:

1) [I]"Please, I want to drink!"[/I].
And the drink was served, in abundance.

2) And upon leaving my room, the sweetest advice of wisdom:
[I]"Be careful with girls here! They only want your money!"[/I]
I showed my innocent surprised look, and I replied I would have paid attention. I really look as a good boy, when I want.

(reports in the Batam thread, search for "hijab" and my nick).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2247125]Well, from the history of posts of dubious posters you can also check if 95% are informative contributions or to challenge others. That says a lot.

About hijab, I still have the firm memory of a nice lady in Batam, met via WeChat, who I remember in particular (besides her wonderful tits) for two phrases:

1) [I]"Please, I want to drink!"[/I].
And the drink was served, in abundance.

2) And upon leaving my room, the sweetest advice of wisdom:
[I]"Be careful with girls here! They only want your money!"[/I]
I showed my innocent surprised look, and I replied I would have paid attention. I really look as a good boy, when I want.

(reports in the Batam thread, search for "hijab" and my nick).[/QUOTE]Last time in KL. VuVu scolded me with the waste of my "water" when I deposited it on her breasts. Apparently she enjoys the taste of "my water". Man, I knew you had to learn some phrases in the country's language but the slang phrases too!

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2246846]I'll be in KL end of next week, passing through en route to London but breaking the journey for a two days / nights. Anybody know of a good shop for buying Tongkat Ali at decent prices?[/QUOTE]On bukit Bintang Street at the end where it meets with Japan alor. There is a medical store. Price are cheaper than normal stores. Its in front of that big hotel and with blue sign board.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2247335]Last time in KL. VuVu scolded me with the waste of my "water" when I deposited it on her breasts. Apparently she enjoys the taste of "my water". Man, I knew you had to learn some phrases in the country's language but the slang phrases too![/QUOTE]You will admit that doing that with a lady wearing hijab makes it a totally different story. It's not just us pervert Western people who have such a fetish. Go to any web portal of porn videos, such as xhamster, xvideo, etc. Etc. And search for "Malay" or "tudung". MAN, THAT MAKES ME HORNY!

Hello mongers,

It's been ages had a weekend stay in KL. Was there a long time back and I am sure the mongering scene has changed like any other cities. I'll be in Jakarta first and then in KL for a weekend. Reading through the posts looks like BC is pretty famous. However any help on good place visited by WG's or good clubs to hang around would be of great help. I am sure there are no Malios or Alex. S in KL but anything close to it? Please let me know. Will be at the Shangrila. Anything close?

Thanks!

Just moved from India to Cyberjaya and would like to know from my fellow mongers here if there are any massage places in Cyberjaya or Putrajaya where extra services are available.

Also please let me know if you know refer any female in these places who is offering full service, especially interested in local Malay.

Anyone know if you can fly direct from KL to Clark (Angeles) ? Or only can go via Sing. And then via Manila. I know Ang is 2 hrs taxi from Manila.

Want to combine Angeles with KL trip. Best root. I mean route.

Or I suppose could do KL. PP Camb trip. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2248688]Anyone know if you can fly direct from KL to Clark (Angeles) ? Or only can go via Sing. And then via Manila. I know Ang is 2 hrs taxi from Manila.

Want to combine Angeles with KL trip. Best root. I mean route.

Or I suppose could do KL. PP Camb trip. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Interestingly, I've recently "researched" a very similar routing. Flights in terms of time and US dollars flying in and out of Angeles were not to my liking. everything seemed to involve at least one stop and many involved 2 stops. Since Phnom Penh will be the primary focus of my next trip, I'll probably limit my other destinations to BKK and maybe Yangon.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2248688]Anyone know if you can fly direct from KL to Clark (Angeles)? Or only can go via Sing. And then via Manila. I know Ang is 2 hrs taxi from Manila.

Want to combine Angeles with KL trip. Best root. I mean route.

Or I suppose could do KL. PP Camb trip. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Google Budget Airline AirAsia, as they fly direct from the new LCCT airport in KL to Clark field airport which is based in the location of the now closed US Army base airfield just down the road from Angela's.

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Flights-g469410-Angeles_City_Pampanga_Province_Central_Luzon_Region_Luzon-Cheap_Discount_Airfares.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2246772]Girls? KL is definitely at a handicap there, since a lot of them are walking around in hijab and they are the most overweight in all of Asia (a statistical fact, not a personal observation).

KL is definitely not the best mongering place in the world, and no experienced monger would try to pitch it advantages over any of the major destinations in Thailand, Indonesia or the PI.

BTW is your question mark key stuck?[/QUOTE]Come on one advantages KL has going for it is that it doesn't have the sex tourist hot spot reputation that Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city has which is a good thing if you are a young guy who wants to have overseas holiday to Asia on your own with some discreet mongering included on the itinerary but most importantly doesn't want to get a reputation among your friends co-workers and family of being a desperate working girl monger who pays women for sexual services but at the same time make it appear you are heading overseas to broaden your horizons while having the upmost respectable intentions for visiting Asia.

That's where Malaysia is perfect, Most westerners view Malaysia as a safe place to visit not a international sex tourist destination like Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city but KL does offer options to monger like 3 to 4 star hotel's with health centre Spa's that are really fronts for brothels as well as night clubs like the beach club with freelancers available for night time quickies back at your hotel room or if staying with family across the road from the nightclub in a cheap short time hotel.

Also worth considering for a western bloke with a girlfriend or wife looking to holiday somewhere cheap in Tropical South East Asia that doesn't scream travelling sex tourist pervert like trying to convince your partner Pattaya is a nice seaside resort or Angela's city is a golfing destination, that's never going to work no KL in Malaysia is where your missus will be kept busy with classy shopping malls, beauty parlours offering treatment like facials and pedicures as well as foot reflexology massages etc etc thus giving the man a chance to duck off and get his rocks off.

And when it comes down to it hookers in Malaysia aren't that much more expensive than Thailand, Indonesia or the PI!

Still considerably cheaper than neighbouring Singapore.

I've visited both Kuala Lumpur and Penang to monger several times over the last ten years and I was most impressed with the overall offering as well as the level of quality among the WLs.

Malaysia truly Asia.

Seriously there is nothing hotter than a slim Malay girl with long beautiful hair and sexy face that has no hang ups about working as a hooker!

[QUOTE=Melbzz;2250023]Come on one advantages KL has going for it is that it doesn't have the sex tourist hot spot reputation that Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city has which is a good thing if you are a young guy who wants to have overseas holiday to Asia on your own with some discreet mongering included on the itinerary but most importantly doesn't want to get a reputation among your friends co-workers and family of being a desperate working girl monger who pays women for sexual services but at the same time make it appear you are heading overseas to broaden your horizons while having the upmost respectable intentions for visiting Asia.
That's where Malaysia is perfect, Most westerners view Malaysia as a safe place to visit not a international sex tourist destination like Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city but KL does offer options to monger like 3 to 4 star hotel's with health centre Spa's that are really fronts for brothels as well as night clubs like the beach club with freelancers available for night time quickies back at your hotel room or if staying with family across the road from the nightclub in a cheap short time hotel.
[/QUOTE]Find many KL girls not hardened pro's like in major mong places in Thailand. If you sift thru them you can get a semi pro who gives good GFE who smiles and moans because she likes it.

Well that's my experience. If others don't like KL fine, your $$ your choice.

[QUOTE=Melbzz;2250023]Come on one advantages KL has going for it is that it doesn't have the sex tourist hot spot reputation that Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city has which is a good thing if you are a young guy who wants to have overseas holiday to Asia on your own with some discreet mongering included on the itinerary but most importantly doesn't want to get a reputation among your friends co-workers and family of being
[/QUOTE]You are right on spot!

I have been going to Malaysia for 10 years maybe already, and still I report at home or with unaware colleagues that being a Muslim country there is little to do at night if not eating good food. No way I could organize a meeting in Bangkok without carrying the eyes of everyone accusing me to be a pervert wannabe monger. Sad.

[QUOTE=Melbzz;2250023]Malaysia truly Asia.
Seriously there is nothing hotter than a slim Malay girl with long beautiful hair and sexy face that has no hang ups about working as a hooker![/QUOTE]You know Malaysia! Others missed the best.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;2236311]The spa on the backside of Fahrenheit, basement, is currently closed for renovations. I've been inside and talked to the guy, they ripped everything out, a mess. Duration probably one month+.[/QUOTE]Hi brothers,

Newbie here. Sky River reopened yet?

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;2236311]The spa on the backside of Fahrenheit, basement, is currently closed for renovations. I've been inside and talked to the guy, they ripped everything out, a mess. Duration probably one month+.[/QUOTE]Hi brothers,

Are there health spa in Imperial Hotel and Melia Hotel anymore?

I've been to KL once before. Did BC and TC. However, this trip I can't safely take a girl back to my hotel room. I'm looking for point and shoot incall places with lots of girls to select from. Massage places ok too as long as I can see the lineup first. Prefer girls under 25. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2252102]I've been to KL once before. Did BC and TC. However, this trip I can't safely take a girl back to my hotel room. I'm looking for point and shoot incall places with lots of girls to select from. Massage places ok too as long as I can see the lineup first. Prefer girls under 25. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]What you mean with "lots of girls"? I been in KL only once too and tried some famous saunas like Skyriver, Green Elephant, Soleil, Nova, Genesis, Bond, etc but I've never found lots girls. The line up ranged from a minimum of 6/8 girls to around 13/15 girls. I've never seen line up with 20/30 or more girls in KL's saunas, maybe I had chosen the wrong time of the day.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2252203] some famous saunas like Skyriver, Green Elephant, Soleil, Nova, Genesis, Bond, etc but I've never found lots girls. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the list I will start with these places. Any more suggestions from others will be well appreciated.

Do you get to see the girls first at all these places? What I meant by lots was maybe 80-100 girls like you would see in Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel in Jakarta or a busy FKK club or gogo bar. Sadly I guess I seriously have to downgrade my expectations in KL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2252241]Do you get to see the girls first at all these places? [/QUOTE]Yes, you walk in and the papasan will show you the line up, introduce the girls by their nationality and relative price.

[QUOTE=Melbzz;2250023]Come on one advantages KL has going for it is that it doesn't have the sex tourist hot spot reputation that Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city has which is a good thing if you are a young guy who wants to have overseas holiday to Asia on your own with some discreet mongering included on the itinerary but most importantly doesn't want to get a reputation among your friends co-workers and family of being a desperate working girl monger who pays women for sexual services but at the same time make it appear you are heading overseas to broaden your horizons while having the upmost respectable intentions for visiting Asia.

That's where Malaysia is perfect, Most westerners view Malaysia as a safe place to visit not a international sex tourist destination like Bangkok Pattaya and Angela's city but KL does offer options to monger like 3 to 4 star hotel's with health centre Spa's that are really fronts for brothels as well as night clubs like the beach club with freelancers available for night time quickies back at your hotel room or if staying with family across the road from the nightclub in a cheap short time hotel.

Also worth considering for a western bloke with a girlfriend or wife looking to holiday somewhere cheap in Tropical South East Asia that doesn't scream travelling sex tourist pervert like trying to convince your partner Pattaya is a nice seaside resort or Angela's city is a golfing destination, that's never going to work no KL in Malaysia is where your missus will be kept busy with classy shopping malls, beauty parlours offering treatment like facials and pedicures as well as foot reflexology massages etc etc thus giving the man a chance to duck off and get his rocks off.

And when it comes down to it hookers in Malaysia aren't that much more expensive than Thailand, Indonesia or the PI!

Still considerably cheaper than neighbouring Singapore.

I've visited both Kuala Lumpur and Penang to monger several times over the last ten years and I was most impressed with the overall offering as well as the level of quality among the WLs.

Malaysia truly Asia.

Seriously there is nothing hotter than a slim Malay girl with long beautiful hair and sexy face that has no hang ups about working as a hooker![/QUOTE]Nice report. I totally agree with what is written here.

By the way does anyone knows if Spa brothels are as numerous in Penang as in KL?

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2252245]Yes, you walk in and the papasan will show you the line up, introduce the girls by their nationality and relative price.[/QUOTE]I'm landing in KL tomorrow 6 AM. The hotel check in is at 2 PM. So I will drop my bags and start mongering after breakfast LOL.

[QUOTE=Volpone;2252301]Nice report. I totally agree with what is written here.
By the way does anyone knows if Spa brothels are as numerous in Penang as in KL?[/QUOTE]Was looking for another destination close to KL that could provide similar experiences to KL so went to Penang This year.

Despite intensive research I found Penang a virtual desert and would never go back.

My 10 day trip resulted in these findings. MP - mainly HJ, looked to screw Westerners $ wise, girls were substandard. FL. Substandard only saw 1 who I would consider going with. Best option WEchat or social media girls.

I put it down as a total waste of time mongering wise. Too little choice, too hard to find, too much hassle.

IF I stayed longer I could probably build up a stable but for a FIFO monger = no.

But YVMD.

I shall reach KL at around 8 AM after a few days. I am also planning for day-time mongering on that day itself. Please share your experience. Which all places can I visit to get good GFE, within a budget of 250-300 RM?

Is ZEN Rooms Basic in Gold Brick Hotel (Jalan Bukit Bintang) girl-friendly? Can we get stock from the hotel itself?

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2252332]I'm landing in KL tomorrow 6 AM. The hotel check in is at 2 PM. So I will drop my bags and start mongering after breakfast LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2252436]Was looking for another destination close to KL that could provide similar experiences to KL so went to Penang This year.

Despite intensive research I found Penang a virtual desert and would never go back.

My 10 day trip resulted in these findings. MP - mainly HJ, looked to screw Westerners $ wise, girls were substandard. FL. Substandard only saw 1 who I would consider going with. Best option WEchat or social media girls.

I put it down as a total waste of time mongering wise. Too little choice, too hard to find, too much hassle.

IF I stayed longer I could probably build up a stable but for a FIFO monger = no.

But YVMD.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input NewImage. It will avoid me a trip and a stay there for nothing. KL is good and has numeros brothels Spa to enjoy and seems to be the best in Malaysia. However it would have been interesting to be in a city on the sea too and to enjoy our hobby, pastime 3-4 times a week.

Trying to remember name of sauna place in HSBC building in Bukit Bintang.

Anyone know name and floor level?

Also cost of entry and lady?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=HungryBird15;2252563]I shall reach KL at around 8 AM after a few days. I am also planning for day-time mongering on that day itself. Please share your experience. Which all places can I visit to get good GFE, within a budget of 250-300 RM?
Is ZEN Rooms Basic in Gold Brick Hotel (Jalan Bukit Bintang) girl-friendly? Can we get stock from the hotel itself?[/QUOTE]Prob around 2/3 pm most wildlife gets active. Before that girls sleeping from previous activities.

As far as good GFE with budget of 250 300 prob need to spend more. But might get lucky. Richmore for a lot less obviously. Depends what you call good GFE. I call good GFE girls who is into me. Really wants to fuck. That usually takes time & chemistry.

NI.

Indeed, there was a direct flight from Kuala Lumpur to Angeles City by Air Asia before. I have flown on this route in 2012. But unfortunately it no longer exists. Air Asia flies from Kuala Lumpur to Manila.

[QUOTE=Melbzz;2249897] Google Budget Airline AirAsia, as they fly direct from the new LCCT airport in KL to Clark field airport which is based in the location of the now closed US Army base airfield just down the road from Angela's. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2252781]Trying to remember name of sauna place in HSBC building in Bukit Bintang.

Anyone know name and floor level?

Also cost of entry and lady?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Genesis Spa - 10th Floor, couldn; t tell you what the price is now, it's a good 6+ years since I last visited.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2252781]Trying to remember name of sauna place in HSBC building in Bukit Bintang.
Anyone know name and floor level?
Also cost of entry and lady?
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2253122]Genesis Spa - 10th Floor, couldn; t tell you what the price is now, it's a good 6+ years since I last visited.[/QUOTE]In June 2017 the prices were:

288 MYR for chinese girl - 1 HR with bodymassage.

258 MYR for Malay girl - 45 min.

218 MYR for Thai, Viet and Indo girl - 45 min.

No entry fee.

Was on a the last leg of a quick Asian business trip last weekend, had a long layover at KLIA so opted to bunk down at the Sama Sama airport hotel for the day. Fired up WeChat out of habit, checked People Nearby and after a while had a Friend Request ping from a Thai woman. Looked early 30's, not uneasy on the eye. A little small talk followed, she's at the airport waiting for a flight back to Thailand. 'Your hotel near airpot?" she asks. "Yes" I reply. "You alone? Yes again. "Want meet?" followed by her sending me a few pics to show the wares. One hour was 200 RM, not bad for 'room service' where I didn't even have to lift a finger! She was a big tubby but massive boobs and enthusiastic enough. Later I had two more friend requests, both Thais with similar availability.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2253484] Fired up WeChat out of habit, checked People Nearby and after a while had a Friend Request ping from a Thai woman.[/QUOTE]Is WeChat the best app for Malaysia for mongering? What about Tinder, Badoo or others?

[QUOTE=Otari;2254155]Is WeChat the best app for Malaysia for mongering? What about Tinder, Badoo or others?[/QUOTE]I was in KL a few weeks ago and wechat was very effective. Haven't got Tinder or Badoo so can't comment on those. But I can vouch for wechat, seems to work realy well all through asia and oz.

Hi guys,

Planning to visit Malaysia in 2nd week Dec due to official work. Will be put up in cyber jaya.

Appreciate your inputs on Tan'yaa hotel cyberjaya with regards to allowing WG's in room (am Indian solo traveller), any other hotel suggestions alternatively.

Any suggestions on good massage / spa, etc with full service in this / alternative region.

Regards,

Ganatram!

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2252203]What you mean with "lots of girls"? I been in KL only once too and tried some famous saunas like Skyriver, Green Elephant, Soleil, Nova, Genesis, Bond, etc but I've never found lots girls. The line up ranged from a minimum of 6/8 girls to around 13/15 girls. I've never seen line up with 20/30 or more girls in KL's saunas, maybe I had chosen the wrong time of the day.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I just received my hotel confirmation and it's the Sofitel Kuala Lumpur Damansara which is very far from these spas. Will still check them out but wondering if there is an area closer to my hotel. Anyone have any recommendations during the afternoons around Bukit Damansara?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2254451]Unfortunately I just received my hotel confirmation and it's the Sofitel Kuala Lumpur Damansara which is very far from these spas. Will still check them out but wondering if there is an area closer to my hotel. Anyone have any recommendations during the afternoons around Bukit Damansara?[/QUOTE]Bro,

No worries. Bangsar is near to Sofitel, definitely have some over there.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2254676]Bro,

No worries. Bangsar is near to Sofitel, definitely have some over there.[/QUOTE]Do you or anyone else have some spa names? I just searched Bangsar on this thread and no mention of any spas.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2254844]Do you or anyone else have some spa names? I just searched Bangsar on this thread and no mention of any spas.[/QUOTE]Bro,

Use wechat app and search around. Many of them. But you too must be ready. As sometimes the pic is not same as person when arrive.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2254177]I was in KL a few weeks ago and wechat was very effective. Haven't got Tinder or Badoo so can't comment on those. But I can vouch for wechat, seems to work realy well all through asia and oz.[/QUOTE]Thanks Blue Bus!

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2255367]Bro,

Use wechat app and search around. Many of them. But you too must be ready. As sometimes the pic is not same as person when arrive.[/QUOTE]I am very picky. I need to see the girl in person.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2255512]I am very picky. I need to see the girl in person.[/QUOTE]In that case. Mmmmm also use wechat to ask them where the location or shop name. So you could go and see see. LOL.

Don't ask me what's the names is. I totally definitely don't knows. But now days many shop is closing down due to MIB.

Good luck to you.

Thanks a lot, NI.

I hope, walking in the streets of jalan alore will give me some chance of satisfying Johnny! Please help with your suggestions. I know about Riversky, Bond spa. Anything else?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2252857]Prob around 2/3 pm most wildlife gets active. Before that girls sleeping from previous activities.

As far as good GFE with budget of 250 300 prob need to spend more. But might get lucky. Richmore for a lot less obviously. Depends what you call good GFE. I call good GFE girls who is into me. Really wants to fuck. That usually takes time & chemistry.

NI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2255512]I am very picky. I need to see the girl in person.[/QUOTE]As a very picky man I think you have 3 options in KL:

1. Beach club and Thai Club.

2. Saunas with small line up (there are also some small sauna outside KL, in Kota Damansara around Sunway Ginza and The Strand, like Angelic Garden, October Cherry and others).

3. Walk in hotel, you have to contact the papasan by Wechat or Line or Whatsapp to know their address, then reach the hotel and check the girls available. Many are located in Kota Damansara and Petaling Jaya.

I am soliciting recommendations for a hotel that is nicely located (I think that means within relatively easy access of the infamous Beach Club) that has a nice FS spa. I do not need 30-60 young ladies but it woukd be nice if the spa were not populated by fat toothless ex-beauties.

I was about to book the Richmore but a look at Trip Advisor convinced me that besides the ladies, the place is run down and uncomfortable. I am looking for something nice, possibly even high end.

Many thanks: F.

[QUOTE=HungryBird15;2255661]Thanks a lot, NI.
I hope, walking in the streets of jalan alore will give me some chance of satisfying Johnny! Please help with your suggestions. I know about Riversky, Bond spa. Anything else?[/QUOTE]Had some midday meetings via Wechat BUT beware the LB's.

[QUOTE=Forest;2255865]I am soliciting recommendations for a hotel that is nicely located (I think that means within relatively easy access of the infamous Beach Club) that has a nice FS spa. I do not need 30-60 young ladies but it woukd be nice if the spa were not populated by fat toothless ex-beauties.

I was about to book the Richmore but a look at Trip Advisor convinced me that besides the ladies, the place is run down and uncomfortable. I am looking for something nice, possibly even high end.

Many thanks: F.[/QUOTE]From what I know so far.

1) Season Tower (Saboon) behind T. Square. Girls is mostly Viet, Thai, Indo, Philippines etc. OKT is 8/10 is fuck up, very lcly. Girls service is very rushing and money minded. Yeah they have SPA facilities. (Min 30 girls).

2) Fuji SPA near sungai besi roundabout. Same girls as Viet, Thai. Etc. OKT consider ok not as fxxk as (Saboon) have SPA facilities too. (Min 20 girls).

3) Menara Genesis HSBC Bukit Bintang (Genesis SPA). Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Is a bit rundown for the rooms. OKT is lcly too. Have SPA facilities. (min 20 girls).

4) Alpha Genesis Hotel (A1 SPA) behind Jalan Alor. Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Everything seems new after reconstruction. They have small SPA facilities too. (Min 30 girls).

5) Fahrenheit 88 (Sky River spa) Girls Viet, Thai. Etc. They don't have any spa facilities. For the moment they are closed, not sure will reopens or not. (min 30 girls).

Above is the information that I know, please don't ask me about they age, pretty, service. Etc. Go and experience it. Most important is becarefull now days MIB could have raid any shop at anytime.

If you walk from McDonald's to Royale Chulan Bukit Bintang Hotel, there's will be some one asking you would you wants girls, they would mark-up MYR 80 -100.

I just dropped into Sky River Spa. They were closed, but the owner was there and he opened the door for me.

He explained that they are renovating and all the girls have temporarily moved to Fuji Spa. He also showed me some of the renovations. Heaps of new lounge chairs, new paint, etc. I'll look good when it's done in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2256011]From what I know so far.[/QUOTE]How dated is the information you are providing here?

In October I went to Alpha Genesis and they told me that the spa is closed for good, and since a long time.

Anyone could please confirm this list provided by LM, if each of them is still operating or not, and maybe integrate with new ones in service as of today? That would be great and useful!

(This is not an unkind [I]request[/I], but an [I]expression of hope[/I] that someone will be so kind to do that effort).

By the way, is the mythical CITYTEL spa still operating? It was by far the safest haven to go, and not so far from downtown.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2256011]
4) Alpha Genesis Hotel (A1 SPA) behind Jalan Alor. Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Everything seems new after reconstruction. They have small SPA facilities too. (Min 30 girls).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2256640]
In October I went to Alpha Genesis and they told me that the spa is closed for good, and since a long time.[/QUOTE]I went in KL only once in June 2017 and Alpha Genesis spa was already close.

The person who first coined the title of "Truck Drivers" for the ladies from Uzbekistan wasn't far off - (barring a very few exceptions) these Uzbek ladies are highly reminiscent of a typical truck driver in both appearance and behaviours. My recent observations at Beach Club revealed that the western expats generally do not even engage in any conversation with these Uzbek ladies at the Beach Club. It is mainly the Arabs and the Indians who are availing their "services" if you can generously call it service from these cold fish in bed. On the other hand, the Westerners are mainly into the Asian talent dominated by the Viets at Beach Club.

Last week, there were about a dozen Uzbek ladies present at the Beach Club. Most of them would easily pass as the truck drivers with their built, while 3-4 ladies were quite feminine and beautiful. These ladies have a certain pattern to their hunting process at the Beach Club and other venues. It appears that about a dozen would turn up at the Beach Club at around 11 pm while another group of 6-8 ladies would go to the Warmup Club in Bukit Bintang and another group would go to Sahaar Layali in a side valley of Lot 10 in Bukit Bintang. Those who remain unsuccessful in their hunting at the Beach Club and Warmup Club would descend to Sahaar Layali after 3 am to try their last chances at Sahaar Layali which remains open until 7 am. All three groups at Beach Club, Warmup Cub and Sahaar Layali remain in contact about the prospective mongers and their respective chances at these 3 venues. Depending on the situation, they decide to move between these places with Sahaar Layali being their last hunting stop before calling it quits.

I had the dubious honour of picking up a truck driver, Hayatt Shavakotna, who drinks like a fish and behaves like a cold fish in bed. Never again. A small group of Arabs was partying at a table and had roped in another Uzbek lady who was dancing energetically and quite beautifully. They all seemed to have a great chemistry going between them. The middle-aged balding Arab eventually took this Uzbek lady for the night at the closing time of Beach Club. The very next day, both the balding Arab and the hot dancing Uzbek lady were back at the Beach Club. To my amusement, they didn't even exchange the formal greetings and pleasantries which led me to believe that balding Arab wasn't a happy man last night and the hot dancing Uzbek lady might well have turned out to be a cold fish in bed. The balding Arab was still partying at his table. But with a group of Viets this time. Some people are quick learners and they never repeat their mistakes. I guess.

For those who are more interested in knowing the damage than anything else at the Beach Club, the Uzbeks start with RM 1500-2000, and as the night progresses, seem to settle for something in the range of RM 800-1000 for the night at the closing time of 3 am (if you can really call it a night for the remaining 4 hours). The Viets start with some price gouging at the beginning and seem to settle for something like RM 400-600 at the closing time.

As long as Arabs and Indians continue to flock at the Beach Club, the Uzbek truck drivers will not run out of the business.

[QUOTE=Shiney1;2256995]The person who first coined the title of "Truck Drivers" for the ladies from Uzbekistan wasn't far off - (barring a very few exceptions) [/QUOTE]ROFL you know how to write! From my experience, I second and I can confirm each single word of your post.

I am "The Person" who coined the "Truck Drivers" title here in this KL thread. I like to be sarcastic, but in this case I could not find any better expression to depict my astonishment of seeing all those Arab and Indian guys craving for those CIS women. To each his own, as you noted.

By the way, more than 10 years ago I went a few times to Istanbul. The pubs of Aksaray were full of Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, even Kyrgyzstan ladies. Man! They were SEXY! And hot and passionate. It is NOT true that Uzbek ladies look like truck drivers. Just the majority of Central Asian ladies who are in KL look like that.

Now, Istanbul is a desert (thank you Mr. Sultan) and Central Asia ladies who venture to KL are probably those who really cannot find any better place to go to get some attention.

But, which of these are hotels? Season Tower is a hotel as is Alpha Genesis Hotel, but I cannot find a hotel named Fuji or anything resembling a hotel in Menara Genesis HSBC.

Are there hotels in these locations?

Thanks, F.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2256011]From what I know so far.

1) Season Tower (Saboon) behind T. Square. Girls is mostly Viet, Thai, Indo, Philippines etc. OKT is 8/10 is fuck up, very lcly. Girls service is very rushing and money minded. Yeah they have SPA facilities. (Min 30 girls).

2) Fuji SPA near sungai besi roundabout. Same girls as Viet, Thai. Etc. OKT consider ok not as fxxk as (Saboon) have SPA facilities too. (Min 20 girls).

3) Menara Genesis HSBC Bukit Bintang (Genesis SPA). Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Is a bit rundown for the rooms. OKT is lcly too. Have SPA facilities. (min 20 girls).

4) Alpha Genesis Hotel (A1 SPA) behind Jalan Alor. Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Everything seems new after reconstruction. They have small SPA facilities too. (Min 30 girls).

5) Fahrenheit 88 (Sky River spa) Girls Viet, Thai. Etc. They don't have any spa facilities. For the moment they are closed, not sure will reopens or not. (min 30 girls).

Above is the information that I know, please don't ask me about they age, pretty, service. Etc. Go and experience it. Most important is becarefull now days MIB could have raid any shop at anytime.

If you walk from McDonald's to Royale Chulan Bukit Bintang Hotel, there's will be some one asking you would you wants girls, they would mark-up MYR 80 -100.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;2257259]But, which of these are hotels? Season Tower is a hotel as is Alpha Genesis Hotel, but I cannot find a hotel named Fuji or anything resembling a hotel in Menara Genesis HSBC.
Are there hotels in these locations?[/QUOTE]Beware that [I]at least[/I] for Alpha Genesis that information is outdated a minimum 2 years. I would not bet on others listed, therefore.

Hay brothers.

I will be in KL in January & will be staying in the Bangsa area.

Any recommendations for hunting grounds please.

Have been to the spa at Cititel Mid-vally which was OK but would be keen to try other places.

[QUOTE=Shiney1;2256995]
For those who are more interested in knowing the damage than anything else at the Beach Club, the Uzbeks start with RM 1500-2000, and as the night progresses, seem to settle for something in the range of RM 800-1000 for the night at the closing time of 3 am (if you can really call it a night for the remaining 4 hours). The Viets start with some price gouging at the beginning and seem to settle for something like RM 400-600 at the closing time.
As long as Arabs and Indians continue to flock at the Beach Club, the Uzbek truck drivers will not run out of the business.[/QUOTE]Never understood what punters saw in these "ladies". Remember when I first went to Bangkok some were on Suk Rd and I thought the same. As if you would pay 800-1000 to have sex with someone who looks like your 50 why old aunt. Even if it were free I still wouldn't. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but come on. I just assumed some punters must get very very drunk.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2256011]From what I know so far.

1) Season Tower (Saboon) behind T. Square. Girls is mostly Viet, Thai, Indo, Philippines etc. OKT is 8/10 is fuck up, very lcly. Girls service is very rushing and money minded. Yeah they have SPA facilities. (Min 30 girls).

2) Fuji SPA near sungai besi roundabout. Same girls as Viet, Thai. Etc. OKT consider ok not as fxxk as (Saboon) have SPA facilities too. (Min 20 girls).

3) Menara Genesis HSBC Bukit Bintang (Genesis SPA). Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Is a bit rundown for the rooms. OKT is lcly too. Have SPA facilities. (min 20 girls).

4) Alpha Genesis Hotel (A1 SPA) behind Jalan Alor. Girls Viet, Thai, Indo. Etc. Everything seems new after reconstruction. They have small SPA facilities too. (Min 30 girls).

5) Fahrenheit 88 (Sky River spa) Girls Viet, Thai. Etc. They don't have any spa facilities. For the moment they are closed, not sure will reopens or not. (min 30 girls).

Above is the information that I know, please don't ask me about they age, pretty, service. Etc. Go and experience it. Most important is becarefull now days MIB could have raid any shop at anytime.

If you walk from McDonald's to Royale Chulan Bukit Bintang Hotel, there's will be some one asking you would you wants girls, they would mark-up MYR 80 -100.[/QUOTE]Hi.

I lived at Alpha Genesis 6 weeks ago and they told me their helthclub has been closed many years.

BL.

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2256011]
Above is the information that I know, please don't Most important is becarefull now days MIB could have raid any shop at anytime.[/QUOTE]Can someone answer how common these raids are currently? What happens in a raid? Do the men actually get prosecuted or just asked for some money by the police before they are allowed to go? Asking since LastMan listed a spa on his list that seemingly closed years ago and his information about raids may also be outdated.

I think the guys running the brothels keep an eye out for Police, so there is some pre-warning. Earlier this year I was staying in a Petaling Street hotel and one night I was observing the brothel comings and goings when several guys (ie, pimps) came runnning down the street shouting. The doors of the brothels slammed shut immediately and all the guys took off on their motorcycles. They were real quick. I didn't see any police turn up though.

Quite a few years ago when the Brickfields brothels were operating, I entered one and paid my 50 Ringgits. I had the girl in the requisite position on the bed and had put penis in vagina about one inch when the call from outside the room was "Police!" The girl immediately jumped up, dressed in a few seconds and took off. So that was the extent of my sex that night: one inch in. I didn't even get to pump it. And I hadn't had sex in about 2 months at that time.

They ushered me out the back and with no refund. Apparently it was Merdeka Day and the brothels were supposed to be closed in respect, and on such days raids are more prevalent.

[QUOTE=Forest;2257259]But, which of these are hotels? Season Tower is a hotel as is Alpha Genesis Hotel, but I cannot find a hotel named Fuji or anything resembling a hotel in Menara Genesis HSBC.

Are there hotels in these locations?

Thanks, F.[/QUOTE]Only number 4 is a hotel. Others is chicken shop.

Landed in KL yesterday. Planned for the night ahead and slept well in the flight getting into KL. With quality inputs received from New Image, Horny Babaji and dew others, checked into Fraser place, close to the action hotspot. Reached the hotel by about 10 pm, had a shower, grabbed a quick bite and reached BC by about 11:30. The crowd was quite decent with about 50:50 ratio of men to women. Lots of Viets, a few of the old Uzbek's there. Surveyed the place and took a seat close to the bar with my drink. Was quickly approached by a nice Viet with an offer for 800. Didn't commit as I wanted to look for more options and sink in. Than another bulky Viet came by, had a good rack and ass, more of an Arabian looking girl, but she claimed to be a Viet. Wasn't to my liking and hence didn't progress much. Had meanwhile glanced at another Viet standing in the corner, looked quite out of place with her dressing as she wasn't dressed to flashy like the rest. She kept smiling at me. Meanwhile I kept enjoying my drink and trying hard to look for better options. But somehow the range was just in the 7 & 8's. It was getting to about 1 pm and the girls were all getting desperate to get someone. I than decided to get going and went upto the Viet standing in the corner who was quite average but had the innocence as she was quite new here. Asked for her price and she quoted 400 for two pops. We took a quick walk back as my hotel was just about 2 blocks away and we were in the room in 10 minutes. Had a quick shower together and got to the act. Quite good in bed she was. Gave a good back massage in between the two rounds. Quite happy with her service and gave her an extra 50. She was quite surprised at this gesture and thanked me many times before she went out. That closes the first day of my trip in KL. Planning a trip to Sky river now.

I visited A1 Spa last year. It was operational. I stayed in the hotel for a day. Went to the spa, saw the lineup, chose a girl and asked the manager to send the girl to my room. Had a good experience.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2257384]Beware that [I]at least[/I] for Alpha Genesis that information is outdated a minimum 2 years. I would not bet on others listed, therefore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2253151]In June 2017 the prices were:

288 MYR for chinese girl - 1 HR with bodymassage.

258 MYR for Malay girl - 45 min.

218 MYR for Thai, Viet and Indo girl - 45 min.

No entry fee.[/QUOTE]I was at the genesis spa a few days ago. Below were the rates quoted to me.

Chinese and Malay 358 1 HR 1 shot.

Viet / indo / Phili 288 1 HR 1 shot.

I took a beautiful Viet chick. She washed me up and proceeded directly to sex. No massage involved. Was done within 15 min. She just got up, washed and waited for me to wash up and leave. Was in and out of genesis in half HR.

LC.

Damn. Makes you wonder why they got rid of the 45 min rate. Dumb question. I've done the spas in Shanghai with shower, sauna and all. Are all the "spas" in KL like described? Coming in a couple of months for my first visit.

[QUOTE=LooseCannon;2257944]I was at the genesis spa a few days ago. Below were the rates quoted to me.

Chinese and Malay 358 1 HR 1 shot.

Viet / indo / Phili 288 1 HR 1 shot.

I took a beautiful Viet chick. She washed me up and proceeded directly to sex. No massage involved. Was done within 15 min. She just got up, washed and waited for me to wash up and leave. Was in and out of genesis in half HR.

LC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LastMan100;2257759]Only number 4 is a hotel. Others is chicken shop.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what is your purpose here.
Alpha Genesis does NOT HAVE A SPA ANYMORE! The spa of Alpha Genesis WAS CLOSED A FEW YEARS AGO!
How long ago did you visit KL?

Like a guy I met 3 years ago who kept promoting how Brazil blew away Germany FKK clubs and Thailand. Then we found out his last visit to Brazil was 8 years earlier!

[QUOTE=LooseCannon;2257944]I was at the genesis spa a few days ago. Below were the rates quoted to me.
Chinese and Malay 358 1 HR 1 shot.
Viet / indo / Phili 288 1 HR 1 shot.
I took a beautiful Viet chick. She washed me up and proceeded directly to sex. No massage involved. Was done within 15 min. She just got up, washed and waited for me to wash up and leave. Was in and out of genesis in half HR.
L.[/QUOTE]If this is the new standard I won't be partaking. You can get BC girl for 2 hrs 350/400/450 as if you would spend 300/350 for this service. Joke. But YVMD.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2257994]:confused: I am not sure what is your purpose here.
Alpha Genesis does NOT HAVE A SPA ANYMORE! The spa of Alpha Genesis WAS CLOSED A FEW YEARS AGO!
How long ago did you visit KL??[/QUOTE]Oh what. Close down the spa years ago. Must be long time didn't go there. But the hotel still have? Very sorry it seems to be need to update myself.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2257398]Never understood what punters saw in these "ladies". Remember when I first went to Bangkok some were on Suk Rd and I thought the same. As if you would pay 800-1000 to have sex with someone who looks like your 50 why old aunt. Even if it were free I still wouldn't. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but come on. I just assumed some punters must get very very drunk.[/QUOTE]When did you first go to Bangkok? And when did you last go to Bangkok? Last time I pulled a girl off Sukhumvit was right around two years ago. She was on the cute side and a great provider. Cost was 1000.

Hit Beach Club on Thursday night, Arrived before 9 and there was no cover. 42.5 ringgit for 2 beers. There was a Vietnamese soccer game on so wasn't difficult to distinguish which girls were Viet and they were all going crazy when the Viet team scored. The majority of the bar were Vietnamese girls. I talked to a super busty Viet girl named Linda. She was in the top 5 there. Maybe a bit older around 25. Also a busty younger girl there in a low cut green dress who kept eyeing me. Farang kept asking her to join them and she never lasted at a table more than 15 seconds. I was holding out for who I thought was the prettiest girl there. She was also a bit older maybe around 30 but some who are inexperienced at aging an Asian girl would say she's younger. She was busy with a Chinese guy the entire time but I did manage to grab her on the way to the washroom to say Hi. Turned out she is Thai! I laughed inside at that. She couldn't believe I could speak Thai.

After that I just went to eat with my friend. I wouldn't call Beach Club a bust since there were 5 decent Viets on this night if you look hard enough. What is awful about this place is that there are so many older ladies in their 50's working here. That's always a huge turnoff for me.

Walked by Thai Club after. Didn't go in because from what we could see it was worse than Beach Club.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2259106]When did you first go to Bangkok? And when did you last go to Bangkok? Last time I pulled a girl off Sukhumvit was right around two years ago. She was on the cute side and a great provider. Cost was 1000.[/QUOTE]Ha ha credit me with some intelligence.
..and when you pulled her off ...I hope she WAS a girl ..lol

[QUOTE=NewImage;2258044]If this is the new standard I won't be partaking. You can get BC girl for 2 hrs 350/400/450 as if you would spend 300/350 for this service. Joke. But YVMD.[/QUOTE]Has anyone come across any Indian girls at BC or spas in KL?

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2260680]Has anyone come across any Indian girls at BC or spas in KL?[/QUOTE]Never seen Indian girl there, got collared by big black African last time. Not my style. Obviously blacks down at Changkat but not Indian. Saw some around Petaling St area but definitely NOT doable.
Never seen in spas either. Have seen occasional one on Locanto.

Was in Kl recently, have not been in many years. Short summary follows here.

Hit the bars at Changkat Tuesday. Thursday, was out quite early, 9 PM until midnight. Girl / guy rate was really good, maybe 70% girls. Also learned quickly most girls was WG or semi-pro. Most girls were average or below. No stunners. On the up-side most girls were easygoing, fun and was also out to have fun and not just looking for your cash. Bought some drinks and had great company in every bar (no special lady-drink prices). You could see girls were hanging in groups, e g the African girls were at one place and so on. Price for ST seemed to be around 400 MYR but likely possible to bargain and likely possible to turn ST in to LT. All was asking "How much are you willing to pay" when I declined the offer. Friday evening comes, a totally different scene at Changkat. Street was turned in to a walking street, much more couples and party-people out. It was a great party, but due to much more drunk guys it was maybe a little harder to find the best girls. I expect Changkat to be the same Saturday evening. Changkat is definitely my go-to place in KL, loved the vibe and the girls here.

TC, I do not think I have to add anything to what is written here already. The business much more straight forward and girls are being pushy for drinks and cash. They would grab your arm and not leave until you tell them you will never pay for their company. That kind of turns me off. Entry was 40 MYR including one drink, totally OK I think, but due to bad experience with pushy girls at TC I did not even try BC. It was also plenty of drunk guys outside, pushy taxi-guys and so on.

We-chat: Works great with the "nearby" function. Invitation to massage-places and outcall offerings came within 10 minutes. Prices seemed to be reasonable, massage including FS around 250 MYR, outcall girls asked "how much" after I declined 200 or 300. Met one girl on WC that came to hotel-room for a drink, she said she would go with me to dinner. We ended up in bed watching TV and some more. She was totally up for some fun. We went to dinner and to Changkat together. She seemed to know a lot of people and brought me to some great bars. Tipped here and sent her off with 200 MYR and she looked surprised, happy, hugged me and kissed me and went off to see her friends, and likely to spend the money. Met another WC girl, met outside a mall and went to Starbucks. She was going out with friends in the evening and she wanted me to go out with them. Well with all the options that was in the bars I was not interested in going there already hooked up so I declined the invitation.

Hard-rock, I think it was Wednesday. About 20 WG / semi pro there. Hardly no single guys at all. No problem to pick a girl there.

Checked the Green elephant spa. Dirty interior turned me off, just said I had not enough money and went out.

Checked a massage place on Changkat between Jalan alor (the food street) and Changkat bars. I think 40 or 60 MYR for the massage, however. In the massage room coming to the he, the girl requested 400 MYR for B2B and FS. A little to much maybe but she was good looking and my little friend was really eager to get some fun, so there was nothing I could do in that situation, should have negotiated before accepting the really cheap (and lousy) massage.

Conclusion is KL is great!! A lot of different girls from Viet, Phili, Thai and Africa in the bars and not so many guys around. Just smile, flirt, act nice and polite and the girls will come to you.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2260854]Never seen Indian girl there, got collared by big black African last time. Not my style. Obviously blacks down at Changkat but not Indian. Saw some around Petaling St area but definitely NOT doable.
Never seen in spas either. Have seen occasional one on Locanto.[/QUOTE]I had an Indian girl at the Deluxe Spa a few years ago.

Young slim & tight. It was one of the best pay-for-sex experiences I have ever had.

She was really into the sex & kept on comparing our skin colour. I think she was surprised I chose her as I am so white.

So nice just like a Chicken Tika Masala.

My only regret was when I went back a week later I did not chose her again. I felt I wanted to try another dish & thought if I ordered the same it would never be as good.

So I went for a Char kway teow. Man, what a mistake. Would not let me touch her breasts, non-existent cat bath & no BBBJ.

Then she would not let me fully enter her. Wrapped ther hand around my cock so only the tip went in, said I was too big. What a load of shit, I don't have a porn-star size member & never had any issues with other providers.

Hi guys,

I have a long stop over at KL airport. Can someone please recommend a SPA close to the airport?

I went to Saboon a couple of years ago. Did not enjoy it and it was far away from the airport as well?

Any recommendations will be most appreciated.

Kind regards.

MainMan.

Thanks for your insights. They are timely because I'm heading to KL in a few days. There are not many postings here about Changkat bars, but your thoughts make it intriguing. While in KL I normally have my fun in the afternoon, usually at a spa or at the ACE building. But might have to force myself to stay up late and go partying.

You mentioning the Hard Rock Cafe was interesting, because I've never thought about picking anyone up there. Any idea what the going rate is for short-time companionship?

Earlier this year I also got a massage from one of the persistent Thai therapists standing on Changkat near the Hotel Soleil. Half-way through she offered full service for 250 rm, which I thought was absurd. Like an idiot I countered with 200 rm and she immediately agreed. I sure wasn't negotiating from a position of strength while sitting naked under a sheet in a plywood-walled cubicle. The service and surroundings were abysmal, and I won't make that mistake again.

I agree with your thoughts about KL. There's something for everyone at prices much cheaper than Singapore and I too appreciate the cultural diversity. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2261056]Was in Kl recently, have not been in many years. Short summary follows here.

Hit the bars at Changkat Tuesday. Thursday, was out quite early, 9 PM until midnight. Girl / guy rate was really good, maybe 70% girls. Also learned quickly most girls was WG or semi-pro. Most girls were average or below. No stunners. On the up-side most girls were easygoing, fun and was also out to have fun and not just looking for your cash. Bought some drinks and had great company in every bar (no special lady-drink prices). You could see girls were hanging in groups, e g the African girls were at one place and so on. Price for ST seemed to be around 400 MYR but likely possible to bargain and likely possible to turn ST in to LT. All was asking "How much are you willing to pay" when I declined the offer. Friday evening comes, a totally different scene at Changkat. Street was turned in to a walking street, much more couples and party-people out. It was a great party, but due to much more drunk guys it was maybe a little harder to find the best girls. I expect Changkat to be the same Saturday evening. Changkat is definitely my go-to place in KL, loved the vibe and the girls here..[/QUOTE]

I would like to start by thanking those of you who kindly provided me information on my last inquiry.

However, I am looking for a slightly more luxurious hotel than those that have been suggested. Most importantly is GIRL FRIENDLY. (of course, wife, room size cleanliness are important too, but even the best hotel in KL is a failure if I can't use my hotel for mongering!

Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel. For that matter, how about the rather pricey Mandarin Oriental?

Many thanks, Forest

p.s. Although I have little to share in Asia, feel free to ask me about the Dominican Republic or Brazil, two countries I know very well. Just send me a pm, and I will do my best to help.

Forest, I think most, if not all KL 5-star hotels are GF. Other punters more familiar with KL than I am can follow up on that statement if they like, but I stayed at the KL Shangri la and it is most definitely girl friendly and very convenient too if you plan to hit up BC and Thai Club. Rooms are typical Shangri la high quality as is the restaurant. Pretty good pool as well. And the location, as I pointed out, is great. You get what you pay for at the KL Shang. Highly recommended.

[QUOTE=Forest;2265452]

Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel.[/QUOTE]In May, I stayed at the Ramada at City Center. The front desk didn't question me about the girls that I brought up. Accessing the elevators doesnt require passing reception. The entry guards don't police the girls. However, I wouldn't consider it a luxury accommodation.

[QUOTE=Forest;2265452]
Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel. For that matter, how about the rather pricey Mandarin Oriental.[/QUOTE]It has been said many times already: nearly ALL HOTELS are girl friendly. MO is the best, but too old-style for me. I would opt for Marriott or Traders, if you want to stay in BB, or Shangri La.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2261935]Thanks for your insights. They are timely because I'm heading to KL in a few days. There are not many postings here about Changkat bars, but your thoughts make it intriguing. While in KL I normally have my fun in the afternoon, usually at a spa or at the ACE building. But might have to force myself to stay up late and go partying.

You mentioning the Hard Rock Cafe was interesting, because I've never thought about picking anyone up there. Any idea what the going rate is for short-time companionship?

Earlier this year I also got a massage from one of the persistent Thai therapists standing on Changkat near the Hotel Soleil. Half-way through she offered full service for 250 rm, which I thought was absurd. Like an idiot I countered with 200 rm and she immediately agreed. I sure wasn't negotiating from a position of strength while sitting naked under a sheet in a plywood-walled cubicle. The service and surroundings were abysmal, and I won't make that mistake again.

I agree with your thoughts about KL. There's something for everyone at prices much cheaper than Singapore and I too appreciate the cultural diversity. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Next time invite the ML to your hotel. That's what I did and worked a treat. She was young and hot too. Think I paid 300. Maybe 400 but no more.

[QUOTE=Forest;2265452]Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel. For that matter, how about the rather pricey Mandarin Oriental?[/QUOTE]Renaissance is girl friendly and not bad. Somewhat a 4*hotel and in walking distance from Hardrock, maybe even BC (10 mins).

[QUOTE=Forest;2265452]I would like to start by thanking those of you who kindly provided me information on my last inquiry.

However, I am looking for a slightly more luxurious hotel than those that have been suggested. Most importantly is GIRL FRIENDLY. (of course, wife, room size cleanliness are important too, but even the best hotel in KL is a failure if I can't use my hotel for mongering!

Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel. For that matter, how about the rather pricey Mandarin Oriental?

Many thanks, Forest

p.s. Although I have little to share in Asia, feel free to ask me about the Dominican Republic or Brazil, two countries I know very well. Just send me a pm, and I will do my best to help.[/QUOTE]Hope you mean wifi and not wife You'll find it hard to find a hotel that's not girl friendly. Have stayed in both the Impiana and Shangri-La with no issues. Impiana is not that great a hotel compared to Shangri-La.

Hi Dear, as mentioned by other members, Shangri la is good and totally girl friendly. If you like slightly cheaper option, then try Concord. It hosts Hard Rock Cafe and very close to Thai club and beach club (Shangri La is also close). Concord is totally GF and cheaper.

[QUOTE=Forest;2265452]I would like to start by thanking those of you who kindly provided me information on my last inquiry.

However, I am looking for a slightly more luxurious hotel than those that have been suggested. Most importantly is GIRL FRIENDLY. (of course, wife, room size cleanliness are important too, but even the best hotel in KL is a failure if I can't use my hotel for mongering!

Has anyone experience with the Impiana KLCC Hotel, the Ramada Suites Hotel or the Shangri-La Hotel. For that matter, how about the rather pricey Mandarin Oriental?

Many thanks, Forest

p.s. Although I have little to share in Asia, feel free to ask me about the Dominican Republic or Brazil, two countries I know very well. Just send me a pm, and I will do my best to help.[/QUOTE].

Call out to Melman111, Irish Mongrel, Ekspat, Black Page, K Constant and Natty Bumpo! I think these responses will be useful to a lot of people.

So I will throw out one last query about places to pickup model type girls. I have read that the Hilton and the Mandarin Oriental have the Zeta Bar and the Club Kyo, respectively. The girls there are supposed to be very beautiful. Are there working girls in the mix? I would expect these girls to be expensive, but I might be induced under the right circumstances. Are these the types of places to look for model type girls? Or should I be looking, as one web site suggested, for Japanese KTVs?

[QUOTE=Forest;2267061]So I will throw out one last query about places to pickup model type girls. I have read that the Hilton and the Mandarin Oriental have the Zeta Bar and the Club Kyo, respectively. The girls there are supposed to be very beautiful. Are there working girls in the mix? I would expect these girls to be expensive, but I might be induced under the right circumstances. Are these the types of places to look for model type girls? Or should I be looking, as one web site suggested, for Japanese KTVs?[/QUOTE]Read as many pages you can here, and from multiple sources all saying the same you will learn that:

1) the most beautiful girls in a bar environment are at TC and BC;.

2) other pick-up bars are at Changkat, HardRock Cafe, Traders (but at the end 1) is always confirmed);.

3) never heard about girls in those bars you mention, although some can always pop up, here and there (still, no place can beat 1) for quantity and quality);.

4) "better looking" and "more expensive" usually do not go with "better experience and friendliness".

Hi All,

Been in Cyberjaya for the last 4 weeks and unable to find action here.

Please let me know if you know anything about the mongering scene in Cyberjaya and Putrajaya.

I guess Cyberjaya should have a lot as lots of expats and students here.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2267238]Read as many pages you can here, and from multiple sources all saying the same you will learn that:

1) the most beautiful girls in a bar environment are at TC and BC;.

2) other pick-up bars are at Changkat, HardRock Cafe, Traders (but at the end 1) is always confirmed);.

3) never heard about girls in those bars you mention, although some can always pop up, here and there (still, no place can beat 1) for quantity and quality);.

4) "better looking" and "more expensive" usually do not go with "better experience and friendliness".[/QUOTE]Totally agree with BP but some stunners at Thai Club. Saw one girl there last time she was 10 +++++ so scared to ask her price but OMG she was top shelf X 3 - be aware you will be competing with rich Asians for her company so price will be steep.

I NEVER go for super hot girls who know it as perf is likely to be average. BYVMD.

[QUOTE=Forest;2267061]Call out to Melman111, Irish Mongrel, Ekspat, Black Page, K Constant and Natty Bumpo! I think these responses will be useful to a lot of people.

So I will throw out one last query about places to pickup model type girls. I have read that the Hilton and the Mandarin Oriental have the Zeta Bar and the Club Kyo, respectively. The girls there are supposed to be very beautiful. Are there working girls in the mix? I would expect these girls to be expensive, but I might be induced under the right circumstances. Are these the types of places to look for model type girls? Or should I be looking, as one web site suggested, for Japanese KTVs?[/QUOTE]Was in Marini's on 57 (KLCC Tower 3) a few months ago. Saw a couple of caucasain ladies walking backwards and forwards trying to catch peoples eyes. Would say they were Russian, if that's your thing, and definitely would have come with a high price tag.

[QUOTE=Jaishankararyan;2267254]Hi All,
Been in Cyberjaya for the last 4 weeks and unable to find action here.[/QUOTE]Deep learning to acquire profound knowledge of a complex subject takes time, but after 4 weeks of study I'd say it's time to take a taxi and move downtown.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2267383]Totally agree with BP but some stunners at Thai Club. Saw one girl there last time she was 10 +++++ so scared to ask her price but OMG she was top shelf X 3 - be aware you will be competing with rich Asians for her company so price will be steep.[/QUOTE]No doubt TC is the place to go, if one wants to see eye-candies. However, there are two additional problems there:

1) They may be used to rich Chinese, who are happy to pay them even just for company, drinking, fondling at the bar. You might be asked 200-300 rm just after some time spent in company and having offered drinks. Arguing is pointless: they are used to that system.

2) The rich Chinese above also pay high price to bring the girl back to hotel. However, those Chinese in many cases are young and handsome, they have a small dick, they are used to Asian-style sex. In a nutshell, the baby-face little young eye candy will NEVER go with a Western man, who in most cases has a bigger body, has bigger dick, and is reputed to be also "violent" in bed (I guess some have had some bad experience with some drunk expat and have passed the word around).

In short, the eye-candy girl from Vietnam knows that going with the young Chinese she will make more money for a smaller effort and overall a more tiny experience.

[QUOTE=Jaishankararyan;2267254]Been in Cyberjaya for the last 4 weeks and unable to find action here.
[/QUOTE]Of course there is no obvious action, but man! Go out where the students go. Thousands of students there, MMU, LKW.

Many of them are interested to earn some easy bucks!

[QUOTE=Ekspat;2267554]Of course there is no obvious action, but man! Go out where the students go. Thousands of students there, MMU, LKW.
Many of them are interested to earn some easy bucks![/QUOTE]This is an eye opener for me. Next time I will leave the usual BC scene and move to Cyberjaya for my leisure time.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2267522]No doubt TC is the place to go, if one wants to see eye-candies. However, there are two additional problems there:

1) They may be used to rich Chinese, who are happy to pay them even just for company, drinking, fondling at the bar. You might be asked 200-300 rm just after some time spent in company and having offered drinks. Arguing is pointless: they are used to that system.

2) The rich Chinese above also pay high price to bring the girl back to hotel. However, those Chinese in many cases are young and handsome, they have a small dick, they are used to Asian-style sex. In a nutshell, the baby-face little young eye candy will NEVER go with a Western man, who in most cases has a bigger body, has bigger dick, and is reputed to be also "violent" in bed (I guess some have had some bad experience with some drunk expat and have passed the word around).

In short, the eye-candy girl from Vietnam knows that going with the young Chinese she will make more money for a smaller effort and overall a more tiny experience.[/QUOTE]Agree but if want 10's this is the place.

Also everytime I went there I had no trouble being approached by 10's. And me big 6 foot 2 Aussie strong body type. Didn't seem to put 9's 10's off. Last time stunner with backless dress was pissed I didn't take her. She was model material but I didn't even ask price as likelyhood performance would be poor. She was upset I didn't take anyone. I said to her who are you TC mamasan?

Only took an 8 from here once which was good exp - 3/4 shots in 3 hrs for 400 I think def no higher. Repeated. Came across 28 year old pimping her very inexperienced 18 year old ("sister" - I suggested she take her home as this is not the place to be for one so young, inexperienced and naive.

What may work here is looking for 7's 8's saying how you prefer them to stunners or saying how they are more beautiful than stunners and then building their ego and then go from there.

Had the old pay me to stand beside you once to which I said "what?" and she repeated to which I just laughed and told her to go away. LOL.

I had a limited opportunity to taste some food in KL recently. As a sure shot place, I went to Genesis. It was easy to locate, based on earlier FRs of this forum. Out of 3 Chinese options shown, I chose a well endowed one for RM 300, single shot, max. 1 hour. She was wearing glasses and looked really appealing. However, as soon as I entered the room, it all became very mechanical. She gave me a quick shower and bathed herself too. Gave me her body massage in the shower. After that we proceeded to the bed, which was uncomfortable because of the structure. She would immediately start the deed, while I wanted to have some time for foreplay. Had to really hold her back for 5-7 minutes for the deed. She was desperate to finish it fast. She was clean shaven and the hole looked good. But, she would not allow to finger. She herself gave a BBBJ, with some water in her mouth. I did not find it more appealing than a conventional BBBJ. Then we started the deed. Her English communication skill was next to zero. No DFK was allowed. I tried in missionary and doggy. She would not tolerate a little roughness also. Requested her to wear the specs, which she had on while I selected her. She denied that too. Upon removing her specs, she looked at least 10 years older! Finally I had to somehow finish the deed. In total I did not spend more than 35 minutes with her. I felt quite dissatisfied.

Later on I found a lot of options at Bukit Bintang / Jalan Alore spas. You can probably get food from RM 230, if you look hard.

[QUOTE=HungryBird15;2268796]I had a limited opportunity to taste some food in KL recently. Out of 3 Chinese options shown, I chose a well endowed one for RM 300, single shot, max. 1 hour. She was wearing glasses and looked really appealing. However, as soon as I entered the room, it all became very mechanical.Later on I found a lot of options at Bukit Bintang / Jalan Alore spas. You can probably get food from RM 230, if you look hard.[/QUOTE]I have found throughout my travels in SEA incl KL that Chinese girls give a poor session- if they come to me despite their assurances I say No. I don't go with PRC- I tell them not to waste their time with me. Too $$ focussed. YVMD but DEFINITELY not for me. Suggest in spa's stay with Viet's & Malay's possibly Thai's or Filipina if you can get them.

Went to Mid Vally with the Girlfriend for some shopping yesterday.

Thought I could slip away for a little fun while she was happy shopping.

Went to Cititel up to level 3 & found it all shut up.

Going home today so I miss out for this trip. So sad.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2269023]I have found throughout my travels in SEA incl KL that Chinese girls give a poor session- if they come to me despite their assurances I say No. I don't go with PRC- I tell them not to waste their time with me. Too $$ focussed. YVMD but DEFINITELY not for me.[/QUOTE]In the past, I though that PRCs were worthless in terms of service too, but not any more. In local scenes like One Stop Food Court, they tend to be fairly reliable. In KL Vietnamese are actually more mercenary on average, I think, but the outlier Vietnamese can be really good, better than the top PRCs, who are just decent. In Vietnam itself, though, the Vietnamese working girls provide utterly awful service and attitude, they seem to be better in other countries.

I generally go for the 40 RM-120 RM girls in the local scene, though, so at 300 RM the story might be entirely different.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2270179]In the past, I though that PRCs were worthless in terms of service too, but not any more. In local scenes like One Stop Food Court, they tend to be fairly reliable. In KL Vietnamese are actually more mercenary on average, I think, but the outlier Vietnamese can be really good, better than the top PRCs, who are just decent. In Vietnam itself, though, the Vietnamese working girls provide utterly awful service and attitude, they seem to be better in other countries.
I generally go for the 40 RM-120 RM girls in the local scene, though, so at 300 RM the story might be entirely different.[/QUOTE]Yes it is really disappointing that service IN Vietnam is usually poor. If you get outside tourist areas and big cities this improves but then you get the hassle of getting them into your room and that stupid policy of foreigners and locals in the same room. One Stop Food Court. By this do you mean hotel Richmore??

Where can you get Viet girls that go for 40 - 120 that will go back to hotel room? Or are we talking about pure pick up, go upstairs, quick session and downstairs 30 minutes later?

Not into quick blow & F ***and go so don't mind paying more.

NI.

I also agree about Vietnamese women. Both in KL and Singapore I specifically seek out Vietnamese women, and have always had a great time with them. They leave their country and it's like they are free and can do what they want. Many memorable times with them and two of them I visited in Vietnam for good times. I did not have a problem with the hotels but I was staying in very nice foreigner friendly hotels, in Hanoi and Danang. Don't know about Ho Chi Minh City.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2270344]One Stop Food Court. By this do you mean hotel Richmore??

[/QUOTE]No this is not Richmoore. It is a local scene on Jalan Gelang just down from the Hote123, and accessed via Jalan Sungai Besi. Its about 10 to 15 minutes walk from Richmoore. It is like a food court but with several Chinese FL's walking around. I took one once for 100 Ringgits one pop. They take you to the apartment building next door where they have rooms. The shower was not inside the room though. Service was shall we say moderate.

You will find it on Google maps.

Hello guys,

Don't ask me why but I would like to have tips to meet black girls in KL; I read BC may be a spot but do you have any other information.

Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I will be in KL soon and was wondering is there are any escort site that are reliable for outcalls, thanks in advance guys. Of course I will make review of my trip later on as a thank you.

[QUOTE=BustyLover;2272831]Hello guys,
Don't ask me why but I would like to have tips to meet black girls in KL; I read BC may be a spot but do you have any other information.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Generally Changkat has a few hanging out around the clubs and pubs. Usually see them sitting on stools outside Zion night club- this would be your best bet, have seen a few on main drag at BB.

Ran into one who said she was Jamaican at BC promised the world but bit too plump and hard looking compared to those sweet Viets.

Friends,

I am planning to visit KL on 5th Feb for 4 days.

Being Chinese new year, is it right time to visit and does it impact mongering scene in any way?

[QUOTE=EditFun01;2274507]Friends,

I am planning to visit KL on 5th Feb for 4 days.

Being Chinese new year, is it right time to visit and does it impact mongering scene in any way?[/QUOTE]I'd say it will be a great time. The city will be much less busy than normal. Local Chinese women don't often work as hookers, so you're good to go.

[QUOTE=EditFun01;2274507]Friends,
I am planning to visit KL on 5th Feb for 4 days.
Being Chinese new year, is it right time to visit and does it impact mongering scene in any way?[/QUOTE]It is Vietnamese NY as well obviously so many will go home, I would expect numbers to be down in this nationality. VNY is 7 days but some Viet girls stay longer with their families. I still think though there will be enough to go round.

[QUOTE=BustyLover;2272831]Hello guys,

Don't ask me why but I would like to have tips to meet black girls in KL; I read BC may be a spot but do you have any other information.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There tends to be two regular black girls floating around the BC, both have been around for a while. One is thin and gaunt and I wouldn't go near her with a barge pole. I've chatted to the other more "meatier" one. She's a good laugh to chat to, or was, and sounds like she comes from the Caribbean but claims she is english. Also claims she gives the best blow job in the world. Wonder how many times I have heard that from a woman. Anyway black girls just aint my thing, been there, no need to go back, so didn't partake, and now any time I see her she gives me a mouth full of sarchastic comments.

You will find more in the bars on Changkat, mostly on the same side as the Zion night club. Tend to see them sitting around the front of Nevermine or Gypsy. You may see some on the other side of the street, but it tends to be FL one side, family friendly the other. Got to love it!

I'm in KL for a few days this week. Any tips on where to find some freelancers? Any interesting parts of the city you recommend checking out? Thanks!

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2275315]There tends to be two regular black girls floating around the BC, both have been around for a while. One is thin and gaunt and I wouldn't go near her with a barge pole. I've chatted to the other more "meatier" one. She's a good laugh to chat to, or was, and sounds like she comes from the Caribbean but claims she is english. Also claims she gives the best blow job in the world. Wonder how many times I have heard that from a woman. Anyway black girls just aint my thing, been there, no need to go back, so didn't partake, and now any time I see her she gives me a mouth full of sarchastic comments.

You will find more in the bars on Changkat, mostly on the same side as the Zion night club. Tend to see them sitting around the front of Nevermine or Gypsy. You may see some on the other side of the street, but it tends to be FL one side, family friendly the other. Got to love it![/QUOTE]Those 2 black girls are in BC since 2007.

[QUOTE=Derppy;2275401]I'm in KL for a few days this week. Any tips on where to find some freelancers? Any interesting parts of the city you recommend checking out? Thanks![/QUOTE]Tried to reply but forum won't allow braille.

Hello,

In general, are airbnbs guest friendly in KL? I am interested in apartment in KLCC area quite close to beach club but I am worried I may get into LE trouble with late night rendezvous.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2275940]Tried to reply but forum won't allow braille.[/QUOTE]Best reply I've seen in a long time. Unfortunately it will prbably be lost on him. Probably still scratching his head wondering what braille has to do with it.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2276390]Best reply I've seen in a long time. Unfortunately it will prbably be lost on him. Probably still scratching his head wondering what braille has to do with it.[/QUOTE]He did not read the forum before writing, it is possible he will not even read after having written. It's a kind of mind set.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2276496]He did not read the forum before writing, it is possible he will not even read after having written. It's a kind of mind set.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is I've read the forum plenty. But I actually asked something more specific that the mods decided to change to what you guys read, and then immediately criticized. Great site you've got here.

[QUOTE=EditFun01;2274507]Being Chinese new year, is it right time to visit and does it impact mongering scene in any way?[/QUOTE]I haven't been in KL for CNY, so I'm not sure how it looks in practice. However, it's a family holiday and I would guess most of the PRC and Vietnamese hookers would go back home for a while. In some places (Ace), they are the bulk of supply, and those are sure to be affected. Shouldn't affect the Filipna / Thai / Indonesian working girls.

Hey,

I'll be in KL soon. Which area in KL should I book accommodation for easy access to affordable mongering that does not involve having to go to bars or clubs or KTVs?

I'm mostly looking for sub-200 ringgit places that are just walk-up places or SWs. The cheaper the better actually.

Jalan Gelang?

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2278409]
I'll be in KL soon. Which area in KL should I book accommodation for easy access to affordable mongering that does not involve having to go to bars or clubs or KTVs?

I'm mostly looking for sub-200 ringgit places that are just walk-up places or SWs. The cheaper the better actually.

Jalan Gelang?[/QUOTE]Probably better to stay in Chinatown so you can access cheap Indonesians for 50 Ringgits per pop in the Petaling St brothels. From there you can always take the train 2 stops away to Pudu Station, from where you can walk to Ace or One Stop.

For a nicer area to stay and with lots of massage places try Bukit Bintang.

Has any one come across any Persian Girls in Massage or Clubs, considering my next holiday and KL was on my list and seems to be a popular place for Persians according to Google. Persians have been on my list so considering what country I am more likely to find.

[QUOTE=Derppy;2276859]Funny thing is I've read the forum plenty. But I actually asked something more specific that the mods decided to change to what you guys read, and then immediately criticized. Great site you've got here.[/QUOTE]Speaking on behalf of me (and sentiment probably of other SM) we are happy to help but asking where to find FL in KL when on the original page you posted it mentioned BC, TC, Changkat and Richmore was a bit rough.

Try to have a more specific question and show prior research to get a better response. Also try PM Senior members if your question may be "delicate".

As for "any interesting parts of the city you recommend checking out" is this a sightseeing question or a mongering related question?

As said many are quite happy to help but apparently Allah helps those who help themselves. Which is why shoplifting is on the rise in Malaysia!

[QUOTE=SamSam2;2278907]Has any one come across any Persian Girls in Massage or Clubs, considering my next holiday and KL was on my list and seems to be a popular place for Persians according to Google. Persians have been on my list so considering what country I am more likely to find.[/QUOTE]Seen a few regulars at BC and some in the bars on main drag in BB. Of course anywhere you see people smoking shisha in restaurants may be a few but prob more on holiday than FL. Ones I've seen a bit too chunky. Would have to roll in flour first.

I have spent a lot of time reading the forum about KL. As usual, there are disagreements about the quality of the women at the various venues as well as pricing, but I can live with these uncertainties. I am convinced that for my 5 day trip to KL in March, I can find at least half a dozen nice looking and potentially GFE women to keep the little guy happy. They will be women of all types: Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipina, Indian. Russian and Iranian are all on the list. As a 60+ American male, I have crossed the occasional young backpacking American/Aussie/European tourist off of my list. Notice that none of these nationalities are Malaysian!

However, I would not like to leave Malaysia without having had sex with at least one Malaysian woman. From what I read, the locals are much harder to find because of the pernicious influence of religion. Can someone recommend to me a strategy for finding a beautiful Malay? Alternatively, please recommend an agency or PM me the name and contact info of a female friend in need of financial assistance.

Many thanks, F.

I came upon this blog that says there is an Indian-only MP in Puchong somewhere? It doesn't give the exact location or place name. Does anyone know which one he is referring to?

[URL]http://www.1malaysiawomen.com/satisfying-my-indian-fetish-with-joyce/l[/URL]

[QUOTE=Forest;2279061]I have spent a lot of time reading the forum about KL. As usual, there are disagreements about the quality of the women at the various venues as well as pricing, but I can live with these uncertainties. I am convinced that for my 5 day trip to KL in March, I can find at least half a dozen nice looking and potentially GFE women to keep the little guy happy. They will be women of all types: Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipina, Indian. Russian and Iranian are all on the list. As a 60+ American male, I have crossed the occasional young backpacking American/Aussie/European tourist off of my list. Notice that none of these nationalities are Malaysian!
However, I would not like to leave Malaysia without having had sex with at least one Malaysian woman. From what I read, the locals are much harder to find because of the pernicious influence of religion. Can someone recommend to me a strategy for finding a beautiful Malay? Alternatively, please recommend an agency or PM me the name and contact info of a female friend in need of financial assistance.
Many thanks, F.[/QUOTE]In my travels to Kl have come across the odd Malay at usual bars and clubs. Met some FL ing around shopping centres, also some massage ladies particularly down massage street from Jalan Alor. Suggestions: Keep your eyes open as you move around Kl. Shop assistants, semi prof massage places, lone shoppers are all likely candidates. Look for a smile and don't be scared to say Hi. Was standing out the front of Pavillion one day when unclothed police were dragging a young girl away, think she was a pick pocket, and got into a conversation with a Malay lady. This turned into a session at my hotel. Would recommend hijab wearing girls are strictly off limits and tread lightly as have heard of some Westerners getting into deep shit when a now crying Muslim girl after realizing what she has done confesses to family and father. Can get pretty troublesome.

I believe Wechat and locanto (should be able to find some horny MILFs here) could be options too. Trust me you are not missing anything crossing off young Aussie backpackers.

Thought about dating sites before you go - "looking for open minded Malay lady to show me around KL " or at worst spas have a few local girls if you just want to get a flag from here.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Forest;2279061]I have spent a lot of time reading the forum about KL. As usual, there are disagreements about the quality of the women at the various venues as well as pricing, but I can live with these uncertainties. I am convinced that for my 5 day trip to KL in March, I can find at least half a dozen nice looking and potentially GFE women to keep the little guy happy. They will be women of all types: Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipina, Indian. Russian and Iranian are all on the list. As a 60+ American male, I have crossed the occasional young backpacking American/Aussie/European tourist off of my list. Notice that none of these nationalities are Malaysian!

However, I would not like to leave Malaysia without having had sex with at least one Malaysian woman. From what I read, the locals are much harder to find because of the pernicious influence of religion. Can someone recommend to me a strategy for finding a beautiful Malay? Alternatively, please recommend an agency or PM me the name and contact info of a female friend in need of financial assistance.

Many thanks, F.[/QUOTE]Why don't you look for Indonesian hookers instead? They have the same religion, a very closely related language and are ethnically similar to Malays. You won't know the difference. There are heaps of them in KL.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2279275]Why don't you look for Indonesian hookers instead? They have the same religion, a very closely related language and are ethnically similar to Malays. You won't know the difference. There are heaps of them in KL.[/QUOTE]That might be like eating Chinese food in Rome (ie, the opposite of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do".

I am not really hung up on fucking a Malay, as I have found that I can enjoy girls of ANY nationality, race or color. Nevertheless, should someone have a true Malay who was great fun, please please send me the contact details. I can only reciprocate in Brazil and the Dominican Republic, but this is the spirit of the ISG.

F.

[QUOTE=Forest;2279615]That might be like eating Chinese food in Rome (ie, the opposite of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do".

I am not really hung up on fucking a Malay, as I have found that I can enjoy girls of ANY nationality, race or color. Nevertheless, should someone have a true Malay who was great fun, please please send me the contact details. I can only reciprocate in Brazil and the Dominican Republic, but this is the spirit of the ISG.

F.[/QUOTE]See Daeng's post in the Photo Gallery. If they are Malays, I'd contact him and become his best friend ASAP.

Enjoy, G.

[QUOTE=Derppy;2276859]Funny thing is I've read the forum plenty. But I actually asked something more specific that the mods decided to change to what you guys read, and then immediately criticized. Great site you've got here.[/QUOTE]Interesting coment. But considering your only previous posts where -1. I'll be in Kathmandu, can anybody help me out, 2. Where is the Spa you speak off, then 3. Your question on KL without any obvious research. Well it's not surprising we answered the way we did. You will find people are happy to help on here, that's why we post information. What infuriates most people is people who post a question for something where there is obvious answers if you do some reading. So yeah, you are going to get blasted for questions like "Any tips on where to find some freelancers? Any interesting parts of the city you recommend checking out?" You don; t have to go too far back in reading posts to find all you need to know.

[QUOTE=Forest;2279615]That might be like eating Chinese food in Rome (ie, the opposite of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do".

F.[/QUOTE]Not quite.

If you see how close Sumatra is to Malaysia, you will agree they are indeed the same race.

Thread Subject: Dien.

Date & Time of Session: 1/27/2019 5:30 PM.

Location: Ace / Richmoore Hotel.

Name: Dien.

Link: none.

Agent: none.

Nationality & Language: Vietnamese, English OK.

Age: 25-ish.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 7/10.

Skill: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

GFE: 7/10.

PSE: 0/10.

Price & Session Length: RM80,30 min.

Repeat: probably not due to more variety everywhere.

First time going to Richmoore Hotel. Previous reports elsewhere have made it sound like an absolutely crazy place that many people don't actually like because of how trashy it is.

I found the place OK. The entrance is in the middle of a small tunnel going through the building. You can see the tunnel in the building looking northeast from Jalan Pudu. The escalators don't work.

You walk up to the second floor via the escalators and the entire dimly lit floor is filled with people. Men are sitting around on white plastic chairs and women are standing along the walls like wallflowers. I was immediately grabbed by a Chinese WG before I had a chance to see any of the other girls and she kept ahold of me as I walked around saying I wasn't interested (I'm Chinese). She said MR100 for 30 min.

After I finally got her off me another PRC woman did the same. After I got *her* off me I circled around the escalator area and saw a cute girl about 5' high with frizzy hair and a bit too much foundation on her face to possibly cover blemishes. She didn't grab me and spoke good English and I could tell she was Vietnamese. She asked if I wanted a massage and I said if I could have sex. She said MR100 but I countered with MR80 because that's the going rate for Vietnamese, right?

She accepted and we were off through a maze of escalators, stairs, and hallways several floors up.

It was an interesting experience being packed in an elevator with other WGs and their clients in a grungy old building.

We got to her apartment which is a number of private rooms sharing a common hall and bathroom. Her room is small and she asked for the money upfront. I then showered in the common bathroom and the shower was literally a hose that I had to hold over myself.

Afterwards I got back, we shared some talk, and she had me lay down and popped on a dom for the BJ. BJ was standard fare and then it was the flip to missionary. Her soft moans were quite nice and her pussy felt wet. No kissing on the mouth though, so not much passion, but the sex felt good. Her moans, soft skin, and grabbing softly at my arms put me over.

She went to take a separate shower and then I did the same. I could hear her giving verbal signals with her roommates when I would exit the room for privacy's sake.

We chatted for a little bit during dressing and then she led me downstairs and that was it.

The hotel is a great value. At $20 USD for FS for a Vietnamese and $25 USD for PRC it's cheap and the girls can certainly be lookers if you scan around and try and make things out in the low light. Neither of the PRCs who grabbed me were lookers though and their pushy attitude didn't help their case. I honestly wonder what the success rate of their pushiness is.

I would definitely come back. Honestly I feel that being Chinese means I look like I fit in among the other people. I can see being extremely uncomfortable if I were white though, haha. There were absolutely zero Europeans there. The griminess of the place is standard fare from my experience for working-class neighborhoods in Asian countries. I can imagine worse.

Date & Time of Session: 1/27/2019 9:30 PM.

Location: Ace / Richmoore.

Name: Apple.

Link: none.

Agent: none.

Nationality & Language: Thai, English poor.

Age: 25-ish.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 7/10.

Skill: 5/10.

Service: 5/10.

GFE: 0/10.

PSE: 0/10.

Price & Session Length: RM80,30 min.

Repeat: probably not due to more variety everywhere.

Went to Richmoore for the second time on the same day. I had a snack at One Stop Food Court to see the local talent and a couple were certainly lookers, but it was too soon after my first punt at Richmoore so decided to pass. This time though I noticed little children running around on the floor as well, which I thought was odd.

Anyway, same deal as last time. Walk up the escalators, get grabbed by PRCs, walk around until I see someone, and head up. Since it was a Sunday evening it was much busier than my first time.

I'm a sucker for petite girls, probably because I'm certainly below average in height myself. Apple was petite and since she said she was Thai, I figured that the service would be good.

Because it was so busy, we had to line up with loads of other punters and WGs to wait for the elevator, which was a bit awkward. Her room is completely sealed off with steel jail cell material with a padlock on the main door. Her door had a padlock as well. Security is certainly tight here.

The first thing she does is lie down on the bed and put the condom on. No BJ. We go straight to missionary and she mentions how big I am (I'm definitely below average by western standards) but she is indeed small and tight.

I've kind of got a sense now of how long a WG can go for before it starts to get painful after a long day, and unfortunately it's usually only about 5 minutes. Sure enough, after 5 she said it was getting painful so we added some more lube and after a bit I could tell she wasn't feeling it so I concentrated and came.

We took a bucket shower together (it was literally a big plastic jug filled with water and a small bucket with a handle that you pour over yourself).

On the way out we were lining for the elevator and I asked her how late she works. She glared at me, didn't respond, and was actively on her phone trying to look like we had no relations. There was a woman also standing in line and she looked back at me somewhat incredulously.

That's when it dawned on me. There are probably regular folks living here as well. That would explain the children I saw coming in and also why people try to be impersonal around the elevators. Can anyone confirm?

Anyway, live and learn. I'll be back, but I am a bit bummed out by how impersonal everything is. Having come from Singapore, where 120 ringgit in Geylang can get you a bit of a connection and a BBBJ with someone in much nicer legal surroundings, the downsides of paying 80 ringgit are starting to show, but it's hard to argue with 80 ringgit.

Date & Time of Session: 1/29/2019 1:30 PM.

Location: Ace / Richmoore Hotel.

Name: Ah Feng.

Link: none.

Agent: none.

Nationality & Language: Thai, English poor.

Age: 25-ish.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 7/10, great natural see cups.

Skill: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

GFE: 0/10, no kissing.

PSE: 0/10.

Price & Session Length: RM80,30 min.

Repeat: I can see her being really fun for locals who have more time. For me as a traveller I'm always looking for variety.

A local graciously gave me Ah Feng's contact number and I texted her in Chinese to arrange a time to meet.

She told me to come to her floor so I went up the escalator and tried to find the elevators but a man and a woman didn't allow me to go up. I'm assuming the man, along with the other men sitting at various desks and standing around are part of the mafia controlling this joint and are there for security.

Since I couldn't go up, I texted Ah Feng and she came down to get me. That's when she told me that I could get the elevator from the ground floor, but it's off limits from the main floor that's up the escalator. The building indeed has some normal people living in it as well, so good behavior in the building's common area is important.

I was interested in the whole Ace setup and apparently she pays the owners of the building 4700 ringgit a month in rent. That's it. She doesn't split her earnings on each client with the house like a normal brothel does. So you can use this as a basis to do the math at 80 ringgit a pop.

We get to her room, take a shower, and then it's onto the action with a really nice and long CBJ followed by a long missionary session. During missionary she didn't want kissing on her face or mouth, even going so far as to push my head lightly away, so that kind of killed the mood for me a bit as it became kind of mechanical.

Having come three times the day before, I had to concentrate and it took me a while. Thankfully she didn't get impatient like most WGs would have done after thrusting has gone on for longer than average. The entire time I was expecting her to tell me to stop so she can finish me with a HJ, but she didn't.

It was a good session with a patient provider. I only wish she allowed kissing as that would have made things more intimate. To be honest I get a small feeling of rejection whenever someone pushes me away. The feeling of rejection isn't something that I can control. It just automatically appears and all I can do is try to move on by reasoning through it like "she's a provider with boundaries and she doesn't know me and she is entirely in her right to not allow kissing and I need to respect that."

Afterwards we took a shower together and she showed me to the elevator. I can see her being a really fun gal to be with. She really looks like someone who would enjoy fooling around with you platonically as a friend.

I'm wondering if anyone can recommend any dating sites? I'm short and Chinese and no one ever gives me a second look anywhere in the world but I'm hoping that the online dating thing can quickly show that I'm a Westerner and not a local or PRC.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2276371]Hello,

In general, are airbnbs guest friendly in KL? I am interested in apartment in KLCC area quite close to beach club but I am worried I may get into LE trouble with late night rendezvous.[/QUOTE]Have rented Airbnb apartments in KL before & never had a problem with bringing in 'visitors'.

Just keep it on the low-down & don't get tempted to get too physical in public areas.

Just don't bring in Durian LOL.

[QUOTE=Forest;2279061]I have spent a lot of time reading the forum about KL. As usual, there are disagreements about the quality of the women at the various venues as well as pricing, but I can live with these uncertainties. I am convinced that for my 5 day trip to KL in March, I can find at least half a dozen nice looking and potentially GFE women to keep the little guy happy. They will be women of all types: Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipina, Indian. Russian and Iranian are all on the list. As a 60+ American male, I have crossed the occasional young backpacking American/Aussie/European tourist off of my list. Notice that none of these nationalities are Malaysian!

However, I would not like to leave Malaysia without having had sex with at least one Malaysian woman. From what I read, the locals are much harder to find because of the pernicious influence of religion. Can someone recommend to me a strategy for finding a beautiful Malay? Alternatively, please recommend an agency or PM me the name and contact info of a female friend in need of financial assistance.

Many thanks, F.[/QUOTE]Had a Malay girl I the Green Elephant a few years ago.

She had had a child so had saggy tits & stretch marks, but a nice face & attitude. GE has big mirrors on the wall, so put her on her side & banged her from behind to get a good view. She was so self conscious about her look, but very sweet.

Not all sex workers like white men, but she was right into it. One of the best I have had in Malaysia.

[QUOTE=Kiwidude;2280225]Have rented Airbnb apartments in KL before & never had a problem with bringing in 'visitors'.

Just keep it on the low-down & don't get tempted to get too physical in public areas.

Just don't bring in Durian LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. I have booked Concorde for the next visit but will try out airbnb in future.

Thread Subject: ABC, Chinese, RM100 FS.

Date & Time of Session: 1/29/2019 5:30 PM.

Name / Nick: ABC (seriously).

Age: 25-ish.

From: China, Szechuan.

Location: One Stop Food Court, Pudu.

Face: 6/10.

Boobs: Bcup, average.

Body petite, 5' tall or even 4. 75'.

Skin: OK.

AR:

BJ: 6/10.

FJ Rating: 6/10.

Damage: 100 ringgit, 20 min.

GFE: 0/10, no kissing.

PSE: 2/10.

RTF: no.

So I decided to give OS a try, having actually eaten there once and felt there were some hotties to be found. Other reports have mentioned that the conditions can be filthy, but having gone to ACE I didn't think it would be an issue.

There are two entrances to OS, the northeast back entrance on Jalan Kalong and the southwest main entrance on Jalan Gelang.

Previously I had always entered through the back entrance and have been able to walk through the entire court and checked out the girls unbothered. This time I went through the main southwest entrance which was a mistake. The WGs sit right there and one of them immediately grabbed me and of course it was a PRC.

The one that grabbed me was IMO the better looking of the other four WGs sitting around, so I decided to go with her.

She said she's from Sichuan and has been here for 3 months. She took me to her room which is in the building directly across the street from the back entrance of OS. She was quite chatty which I liked.

Unfortunately this is where it went a bit down hill for me.

I always bring my own condoms because I simply can't feel anything with standard condoms. I buy the super thin ones that are also sized a bit larger. ABC insisted on using her own thick red condoms and told me that none of the other girls would allow clients to use their own condoms either for fear of safety, which I totally understand. Sometimes guys poke holes in their condoms and do horrible shit like that.

But that means that I felt hardly anything the entire session. Didn't really feel the BJ or the FJ and so I wasn't able to come even with an intense bit of concentration. She first got on top then after 39 seconds we switched to mish then to doggie then back to mish. It ended with a HJ with baby oil, which was pretty fantastic, although I always prefer to come in the mouth or pussy.

The condom issue is probably something unique to me so I probably won't repeat if all the girls at OS insist on using their own condoms.

[URL]https://mothership.sg/2019/01/massage-parlour-infection-kl/[/URL]

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2280591]ABC insisted on using her own thick red condoms and told me that none of the other girls would allow clients to use their own condoms either for fear of safety... won't repeat if all the girls at OS insist on using their own condoms.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the report, but I can reassure you the condom thing is 100% bullshit, I used my own condoms with OS girls in the past without a problem.

Safety / fear issues about condoms are unrealistic. Sure, a crazy guy could poke a tiny hole in the condom or secretly smear it with chili paste, but he could also secretly poke a girl with an infected pin or needle. It brings zero benefit to the guy, generally won't damage the girl (a pinhole in the condom won't get her immediately pregnant or infected with HIV, just increase the chance slightly) so it's not a realistic fear, especially given the real risks they're already taking in their chosen profession.

Most of my OS PRC experiences have been better than yours, and overall slightly better than average at ACE (not a high standard, for sure). Consider it a fluke, you just chanced upon the wrong working girl.

One thing I like about OS is that going rate seems to be fixed at 100 RM, and every woman there seems to stick to that, making the pricing a complete non-issue. Still, it's a good idea to confirm with the girl before going, especially if you're a Mat Saleh. What I don't like is the awful Chinese singing.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2279966]
I was interested in the whole Ace setup and apparently she pays the owners of the building 4700 ringgit a month in rent. That's it. She doesn't split her earnings on each client with the house like a normal brothel does. So you can use this as a basis to do the math at 80 ringgit a pop.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting bit, thanks for sharing. The 4700 RM fee seems steep, they need to do two guys per day just to break even (on the rent, before other expenses like visa, food and such). No wonder many are so rushed, especially during busy times.

Note that there's no going rate at Ace, I've had PRCs from 50 RM onwards, and rarely agreed to 100 RM for anyone, though it happened once or twice.

I use Fuji Latex Just Fit XLs that are Japanese but I've run out. The standard condoms in Malaysia are all horrible because they're tight and really cut down on sensation. Compared to my Just Fits, the standard condoms like Durex and Okamoto are a good 5 mm smaller in diameter.

I went to a sex shop called I Need House but all their condoms were in one size (something I've never seen before).

Any other options for me?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2281228]That's an interesting bit, thanks for sharing. The 4700 RM fee seems steep, they need to do two guys per day just to break even (on the rent, before other expenses like visa, food and such). No wonder many are so rushed, especially during busy times.

Note that there's no going rate at Ace, I've had PRCs from 50 RM onwards, and rarely agreed to 100 RM for anyone, though it happened once or twice.[/QUOTE]It's steep for sure, but it's the mafia that owns the operation and the rooms. They employ guys all over the place as watchers and pay the police for sure.

4700 RM a month is 3 x the price of a nice hotel in the area, but then again drumming up business wouldn't be as easy for the WGs since they don't have a captive audience like in ACE or an easy "commute" to the workplace nor a community of others who are doing the same thing for support.

And because the mafia is essentially just being landlords it gives them a legal alibi and allows some independence to the WGs to set there own rates. I've been offered RM 100 for an hour at 2:30 am (was probably a lie, but still).

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2280591]told me that none of the other girls would allow clients to use their own condoms either for fear of safety, which I totally understand. Sometimes guys poke holes in their condoms and do horrible shit like that.[/QUOTE]Condoms are designed to rip completely apart if there is even the smallest hole in them. So it would always be noticeable.

When a condom company showed that their condom wouldn't rip to shreds after being poked with a pin, people were outraged.

[URL]https://crosstalk.kinja.com/the-condom-designed-to-fail-1787224659[/URL]

Hey guys,

I came here for two weeks, and I'm looking for tested massages parlous, similar to Bangkok ones, where you can go inside, and choose a woman with full service, and you will be not thrown out of the room after 20 mins (E. G. If you paid for 60 min).

[QUOTE=Lefar123;2282396]Hey guys,
I came here for two weeks, and I'm looking for tested massages parlous, similar to Bangkok ones, where you can go inside, and choose a woman with full service, and you will be not thrown out of the room after 20 mins (E. G. If you paid for 60 min).[/QUOTE]My best spa / brothel is SkyRiver but there are plenty to choose from and research (hint). You won't get thrown out if you behave yourself.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2282548]My best spa / brothel is SkyRiver but there are plenty to choose from and research (hint). You won't get thrown out if you behave yourself.[/QUOTE]But I've read here that this place is closed for renovation?

How about 'ACE (Hotel Richmoore)' & 'One Stop Food Court' how it works in this places? Just came there and choose a girl? Talk about price and then go to her room?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2282548]My best spa / brothel is SkyRiver but there are plenty to choose from and research (hint). You won't get thrown out if you behave yourself.[/QUOTE]Is Sky River open again yet? I was in KL in November and it was still shut for renovations.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2282619]Is Sky River open again yet? I was in KL in November and it was still shut for renovations.[/QUOTE]Not looking good went by a few times, once 5 pm and again at 8 pm and closed and looking empty.

Guys please help with latest FRs and contact details.

Here for 2 days.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=BenZw126;2283196]Guys please help with latest FRs and contact details.
Here for 2 days.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I believe you should find a wide range of contact lenses at these places, if not maybe pick up a pair of "reading" glasses. Who knows, may help!
Yet another.

[QUOTE=BenZw126;2283196]Guys please help with latest FRs and contact details.

Here for 2 days.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]This post is the example of why forums on this subject have declined and I suspect will be going the way of the dodo in the future, senior member status is granted to anyone, 29 posts of similar value. The thing is given the response to such type of posts, I don't see why they bother as its just a waste of their time as well as bandwidth.

Hey guys,

Yesterday I went to Fuji SPA, in the beginning you get number, then you go to kind of 'restaurant', there was approximately 20 asian guys resting after having sex (I was only white guy). I got cold tea, in 5 min 'Adviser' took me to the room to show girls. There was 3 Thai girls and 8 Indonesia. Most of them was average or below, but one from Indo was beautiful I chose her (22 years old) slim, 1.55 m, as I am white the girls was a bit scare of me. Money first 248 MYR for 1 shot /45 min. Then I went with girl to the room.

She speaks almost nth in English. Quick shower (cleanliness 4/10, they should provide flip flops at least). Then we started with BBBJ, it was very nice, not so fast perfect for me, then we started the most important part, she provided kissing, she didn't complain through whole session, I have good stamina, so we had multiple positions for 40 min, after that I asked for CIM, she agreed without problems. Later quick shower, and resting in restaurant with tea (if you want to you can eat there for free too). During drinking tea I was talking for 'Adviser', funny guy, asked me about quality, said sorry that woman didn't know English.

So I totally recommend this place, I thought it could be not that good quality like in Bangkok, but it was very nice.

Had a great 4 days trip and no undoubtedly KL is becoming sex capital of Asia!

Day 1- I don't think after reading all the reviews on this forum there is any option but to not visit Thai and Beach cafe on day 1. Thai cafe has only Viet while Beach cafe has mix girls. Got a very friendly Bangladeshi waiter at Thai cafe, he called 4-5 good girls and I chose the best (as per my taste). Deal was 800 RM for night, 400 RM on reaching hotel and 400 RM in the morning. Reached hotel, she was friendly and good GFE. But after first round she checked her phone and excused for the night saying her friend in in emergency. I think it was still early ( 11 pm) and she may be looking for 2-3 more customers. It was too early to sleep so I came down and called cabby who took me to the Thai cafe (he shared his number promising good girls). He took me to the Q hotel, its a typical brothel type arrangement where you visit room by room and make a choice. Saw few Uzbek and Russians as well. Took one and end of the day.

Day 2- Went to Hard rock cafe in the evening, found a Viet and we just clicked. I spent next 2 days with her, it was awesome exp with awesome service. I just took care of her and was very nice. We came to hotel had first round and then headed towards Changkat area. Went to couple of places (Havana etc) and each had pro and semi pro girls hanging around and very easy to pick.

Day 3- Repeated the Viet girl picked from HardRock, went to Marini 57 in the night and saw few stunner girls hanging around. I paid her good ( 1300 RM / day, for 7 pm to next day 9 am) but service was awesome!

In short, mongering in very easy in KL and all depends on your choices.

A) Brothels. Few good girls but expensive.

B) Spa. Avg girls and avg service (I didn't visited any but what I heard).

C) Pickup bars. Thai and Beach cafe. Most girls are avg and in late 20's, early 30's.

D) Bars. Best girls are here. (in my exp).

[QUOTE=Forest;2267061]Call out to Melman111, Irish Mongrel, Ekspat, Black Page, K Constant and Natty Bumpo! I think these responses will be useful to a lot of people.

So I will throw out one last query about places to pickup model type girls. I have read that the Hilton and the Mandarin Oriental have the Zeta Bar and the Club Kyo, respectively. The girls there are supposed to be very beautiful. Are there working girls in the mix? I would expect these girls to be expensive, but I might be induced under the right circumstances. Are these the types of places to look for model type girls? Or should I be looking, as one web site suggested, for Japanese KTVs?[/QUOTE]I had tried zeta bar in my last trip, you can go through my posts and it was waste, at the end I called my last night girl from beach club to spend time with me.

[QUOTE=EditFun01;2285836]Had a great 4 days trip and no undoubtedly KL is becoming sex capital of Asia!
[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time but.

Hey,

I went second time to Fuji spa, there was another manager, he took me straight to room to choose woman. There were about 15 women. There were some nice girls, but I've chosen tiny one. She was from Vietnam. (I paid 247 MYR for 1 shot /60 min) She speaks a little bit English. We started with shower like last time. Right after it, we moved to sex, it was very nice, but after around 10-15 min she wasn't really like it, she told me that my penis is too way big for her, so I stopped. She did blowjob for me, and after shower she left me alone till 60 min passed, I wasn't very happy about that, so I told manager about it. He wanted to give me another woman instead, but I refused it So he proposes for another day 90 min in 60 min price. But I didn't come back there. To summarize second time wasn't that good like first time, but there is always superb manager, so you can tell him about your experience.

[QUOTE=Lefar123;2289287]Hey,

I went second time to Fuji spa, there was another manager, he took me straight to room to choose woman. There were about 15 women. There were some nice girls, but I've chosen tiny one. She was from Vietnam. (I paid 247 MYR for 1 shot /60 min) She speaks a little bit English. We started with shower like last time. Right after it, we moved to sex, it was very nice, but after around 10-15 min she wasn't really like it, she told me that my penis is too way big for her, so I stopped. She did blowjob for me, and after shower she left me alone till 60 min passed, I wasn't very happy about that, so I told manager about it. He wanted to give me another woman instead, but I refused it So he proposes for another day 90 min in 60 min price. But I didn't come back there. To summarize second time wasn't that good like first time, but there is always superb manager, so you can tell him about your experience.[/QUOTE]Yes if you choose a tiny one your equipment may be too big BUT they are paid to fuck.

My advice = take another one straight away or after (2 fucks for 1) (90 for 60 is BS. You'll come back next time and they will plead ignorance) Ask manager who is good fuck and list requirements.

The trouble with spas in KL its more of a lottery than normal. Spas in KL seem to be quick in and out fuck joints. No GFE here or only after build up rapport with same girl. Also remember they are constantly fuckin dirty (insert race here) hour by hour.

That's why I go FL route. Money after the act, I control the session, I interview and negotiate before hand and no middle man. Works for me but if you want quick release spas may be for you and obviously cheaper. Did you get what you paid for?

[QUOTE=EditFun01;2285836]He took me to the Q hotel, its a typical brothel type arrangement where you visit room by room and make a choice. Saw few Uzbek and Russians as well. Took one and end of the day.[/QUOTE]How much were the caucasian girls? Range in age and looks?

Happened to be back in KL so called Ling again.

For those who did not read my earlier FR, she was one of the top FL at Cititel before it closed down.

Viet MILF, petite with curvy figure, not fat, nice see-boobs, shaven clean pussy (I know as I have eaten that pussy a few times).

She said she will dress up for me. When she came to my hotel in Bukit Bintang, she was wearing a nice long Viet cheongsam. She said I got a surprise for you. I said what is it? She started to hug and kiss and led my hands to feel her bum. She is not wearing any panties! She has been walking around BB without panties. Naughty girl!

So we did a bit of groping with me feeling up her long cheongsam and rubbing her pussy underneath her skirt. Nice! Like one of those sexy lady you see on the street, want to touch but cannot, suddenly turn up and ask you to feel her up through her cheongsam without panties. Damn erotic.

After a while cannot wait already, quickly unzipped her dress, pull it over her head, then FK her in the mouth while squeezing her big boobs and fingering her pussy. She moaned and reached down her hand to press my hand harder against her pussy, she crisscrossed her legs and we kept on kissing. We got so excited she opened her legs and my dick pushed into her pussy and we almost did raw. Then caution took over and we stopped.

I laid her on the bed and the usual long BBBJ, fingering, FK, until she capped me and we did cowgirl. As she sank into me, she closed her eyes in ecstasy and started to rock back and forth while I was deep in her, alternating with pumping me while squatting on my dick.

She was savoring the feeling and kept rocking my dick while I was squeezing her tits and trying not to come too soon. She started muttering like, more, good, nice, and we kept rocking harder and harder. I could not stand it seeing her face in the throes of orgasm, I shot into her. But she kept on rocking and grinding her pelvis into mine and saying nice, more.

After a while she must have felt my dick go soft, she opened her eyes, smiled at me and said it was good.

She gave me a massage and then I showered and paid her.

It was another nice experience with Ling.

RM300 outcall to Bukit Bintang area.

Have anyone tried Ahmoi2 u escort service in KL before? Are they legit?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2290196]How much were the caucasian girls? Range in age and looks?[/QUOTE]400 RM for ST, 22-26 age, good looking.

[QUOTE=PoohKeyLover;2291736]Have anyone tried Ahmoi2 u escort service in KL before? Are they legit?[/QUOTE]Yeah I tried them and they legit, some girls bit of attitude but overall they pretty good.

Try the following Indo girl, name Grace, nice no nonsense, no complaints girl with tiny muff so real tight fit:

[URL]http://amoi2u.com/klescort/kl-escort-girl-w293-from-indonesia-young-beautiful-highly-recommenended/[/URL]

Hi.

There are lots of girls in this street offering foot and bodymassage. Does anybody know if some of them offer full service and are willing to go to your hotel?

BL.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2293744]Hi.
There are lots of girls in this street offering foot and bodymassage. Does anybody know if some of them offer full service and are willing to go to your hotel?
BL.[/QUOTE]Avoid at any cost.

[QUOTE=PoohKeyLover;2291736]Have anyone tried Ahmoi2 u escort service in KL before? Are they legit?[/QUOTE]What do you mean with "legit" NO sex for money can be legit in Malaysia! Any such activity is undercover and fees to corrupted police, at any level, must be understood in all cases of such business.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2293744]Hi.
There are lots of girls in this street offering foot and bodymassage. Does anybody know if some of them offer full service and are willing to go to your hotel?
BL.[/QUOTE]If you are referring to the girls that stand at the bottom of the stairs around Mc Donalds area than my experience is that they are a complete waste of time and will only perform a ridiculous short massage and a hand job.

If you are referring to the girls at the end of the so called massage street down from Jalan Alor and near Soleili Hotel then I have had one experience where I met the girl after work, taxied to hotel and then enjoyed ourselves. She was young and keen.

These girls once again are more focused on short massage and hand job. If you see something you like here. Give them your digits and tell them to phone you after they get off.

The said one experience here I went up to massage rooms. Had her naked in the curtained off area, we were both going hammer and tongs at each other but I said it was too cramped for full sex. She agreed to come to my hotel after work.

I would imagine this is the exception not the SOP.

As BP says better options (and less hassle) elsewhere.

NI.

Here for a couple of nights and not up for going to BC. Would rather they came to me and left afterwards.

I was looking at klstarclub02, some of the girls look pretty hot. Any one have any recommendations? Or experience ordering delivery from there?

Hello all,

Visiting KL mid may during Ramzan. (1) Are main FL hangouts like BC and TC open during that time? (2) Are the MPs in Bukit Bintang open and (3) is it business as usual in hotel bars that have FLs?

Thanks.

Hi,

Are the bars and clubs in KL open as usual during Ramadan? Are FLs around?

Regards.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2295946]
Are the bars and clubs in KL open as usual during Ramadan? Are FLs around?
[/QUOTE]Every years always the same question, is too hard to RTFF for you. Anyway I was in KL during ramadan 2017 and I had no problem.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2295946]Hi,

Are the bars and clubs in KL open as usual during Ramadan? Are FLs around?

Regards.[/QUOTE]Hi, I have gone KL twice during Ramadan and BC worked well as Uzbek ladies goes with you at lower price. Most central Asian ladies cannot or don't want go home during Ramadan as they loose money, hence you will find them in BC. Virtnam and Phillipines ladies are not impacted by Ramadan. BC and TC remain open during Ramadan.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2295946]Hi,

Are the bars and clubs in KL open as usual during Ramadan? Are FLs around?

Regards.[/QUOTE]Ramadan does not affect life in KL for our hobby. It's business as usual. There's no Malay Muslim girls in the bars we frequent, and if there is Muslim girls from other countries. Well they can do whatever they want.

You will find a lot of popular restaurants full prior to breaking fast and a lot of people just sitting there with dates and water in front of them, waiting for sunset. The restaurants cannot refuse to sit people, even if they are not going to be able to eat immediately.

Unlike Indonesia you will find very few Muslim Malays drinking alcohol in bars. It's actually illegal. A famous Malay actress was photgraphed in a bar in KL when I lived there. All hell broke loose and there was calls for her to get the birch.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2296196]Every years always the same question, is too hard to RTFF for you.[/QUOTE]Why RTFF? It takes time. Much better to ask and do not spend time checking if the topic was treated before. Time of others is free, right?

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2296468]Ramadan does not affect life in KL for our hobby. It's business as usual.[/QUOTE]I confirm everything you wrote here!
BTW, yesterday Saturday night, an Indonesian girl, old friend of mine from Batam who is now working as restaurant waitress near KL, sent me her photos partying with friends in Changkat. She wears hijab sometimes, she complies with puasa on Ramadan, but yesterday night she had a big beer in front of her. There's a HUGE difference between Malay Muslim girls and Indo Muslim girls.

[QUOTE=Melman111;2296294]Hi, I have gone KL twice during Ramadan and BC worked well as Uzbek ladies goes with you at lower price. Most central Asian ladies cannot or don't want go home during Ramadan as they loose money, hence you will find them in BC. Virtnam and Phillipines ladies are not impacted by Ramadan. BC and TC remain open during Ramadan.[/QUOTE]What's BC?

[QUOTE=Samkuw;2297601]What's BC?[/QUOTE]Beach Club.

[QUOTE=Novio;2297763]Beach Club.[/QUOTE]Next question will be: "What's RTFF?"

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2296196]Every years always the same question, is too hard to RTFF for you. Anyway I was in KL during ramadan 2017 and I had no problem.[/QUOTE]Christian,

In my defense, I searched for "Ramadan" and variants in threads, but no results showed up and hence I posted the question. Please try for yourself.

In KL last week Thai Club closed after a raid I was told. Door said closed for renovations. It was closed. BC all fine and ladies wanting 600 local but they are wham bam thank you Mr operators, so each out for the in and out quickly style. Some told me they arrive around 8 pm as LE in the crowd later at night Things get cheaper as night goes on and many are back for second round Happy times friends.

In KL last week Thai Club closed after a raid I was told. Door said closed for renovations. It was closed. BC all fine and ladies wanting 600 local but they are wham bam thank you Mr operators, so each out for the in and out quickly style. Some told me they arrive around 8 pm as LE in the crowd later at night Things get cheaper as night goes on and many are back for second round Happy times friends.

[QUOTE=Samkuw;2297601]What's BC?[/QUOTE]Big beautiful women giving bareback blowjobs of big black cocks at Beach Club. Now that's a mouthful!

I remember going to a massage parlour outside of Bukit bintang area. Can't remember what city exactly as it was a couple years ago. But, it was a massage basically focusing on the handjob. Seemed like a very popular spot with locals and quite professional. All females massage therapist. I know this is a long shot since my description might be vague. But any locals here have an idea of what shop I am talking about? Can't remember exact pricing, but I remember it was a set price paid at the front. Greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2298376]Or you could search reports from the same period of time last year that coincides with Ramadan last year. [b]Stop being lazy. I won't bother to ask where you are from.[/b][/QUOTE]What is this supposed to mean? (the sentence in bold). Please explain.

[QUOTE=Jaelee;2299056]I remember going to a massage parlour outside of Bukit bintang area. Can't remember what city exactly as it was a couple years ago. But, it was a massage basically focusing on the handjob. Seemed like a very popular spot with locals and quite professional. All females massage therapist. I know this is a long shot since my description might be vague. But any locals here have an idea of what shop I am talking about? Can't remember exact pricing, but I remember it was a set price paid at the front. Greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]You're right! It's such a long shot. It probably wasn't worth mentioning here. As it could be any number of places. Eg: there are hundreds of MPs outside the BB area, most offer HJ and are popular with the locals, professional and have all female masseurs, all very vague and non-descript. You're basically asking to find a needle in a haystack!

Based on your existing info, I'll be very surprised if anyone here could assist you!

[QUOTE=MikeHuntHertz;2301139]You're right! It's such a long shot. It probably wasn't worth mentioning here. As it could be any number of places. Eg: there are hundreds of MPs outside the BB area, most offer HJ and are popular with the locals, professional and have all female masseurs, all very vague and non-descript. You're basically asking to find a needle in a haystack!

Based on your existing info, I'll be very surprised if anyone here could assist you![/QUOTE]I agree with Mike. This is an impossible description. If you pick an area of the city that interests you, maybe someone will have suggestion.

I found that Bukit bintang met all of my day needs in KL (I just returned from there last week). Also, it is not difficult to establish BEFORE paying the fee if the girl will give you BBBJ, CBJ or full service and at what cost. Beware, they will start negotiations at 400! I paid 250 for BBBJ and FS. Great girl- very pretty and very sweet. There were plenty of 3's and 4's, but enough cuties that you will be satisfied.

I will be back soon to KL. Maybe some expert who has been there recently could provide an advice.

Hotel Soleil and Nova hotel spas are closed and will not be back. Alfa Genesis spa was closed years before them.
Besides Federal Hotel, what spas are currently open downtown (I know web sites and spas that are located well away from downtown) and offer the same kind of atmosphere and girls as those I was used to find at Hotel Soleil / Radius?

Any more closures or re-openings happened recently? Any recent update?
What about Skyriver? Green Elephant? What are the options in these days, if any?

I will not stay long, and besides BC I have an Indo girl who is working somewhere there as waitress, to who I promised I will take her and friend out for the night, but I wish to have a B-plan for after 2 am if BC only offers high-priced veteran sharks, as I am afraid it will be 90% of the times.
Thanks!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2301540]I will be back soon to KL. Maybe some expert who has been there recently could provide an advice.

Hotel Soleil and Nova hotel spas are closed and will not be back. Alfa Genesis spa was closed years before them.
Besides Federal Hotel, what spas are currently open downtown (I know web sites and spas that are located well away from downtown) and offer the same kind of atmosphere and girls as those I was used to find at Hotel Soleil / Radius?

Any more closures or re-openings happened recently? Any recent update?
What about Skyriver? Green Elephant? What are the options in these days, if any?

I will not stay long, and besides BC I have an Indo girl who is working somewhere there as waitress, to who I promised I will take her and friend out for the night, but I wish to have a B-plan for after 2 am if BC only offers high-priced veteran sharks, as I am afraid it will be 90% of the times.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi.

Are you sure about Soleil? I visited green elephant last week. I can really recommend a girl from Vietnam. Her name is Annie.

BL.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2292535]Yeah I tried them and they legit, some girls bit of attitude but overall they pretty good.

Try the following Indo girl, name Grace, nice no nonsense, no complaints girl with tiny muff so real tight fit:

[URL]http://amoi2u.com/klescort/kl-escort-girl-w293-from-indonesia-young-beautiful-highly-recommenended/[/URL][/QUOTE]Are the picture legit too? I'd love to try their premium stuff, but want to know what to expect as I had quite the deception in previous experience. (almost a scam at this level.).

Girl I'd like to try is this one [URL]http://amoi2u.com/klescort/escort-suko-from-korea-175cm-tall-very-beautiful-friendly-high-demamding-model/[/URL], but seems a bit too good to be true.

Also, if anyone know a good online agency (advertising close to the real thing), I'm interested (Didn't see any in the last 14 pages).

I like to take my time choosing the girl, and browse picture, so this is like the ideal way to pick the girl for me.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2301578]Hi.

Are you sure about Soleil? I visited green elephant last week. I can really recommend a girl from Vietnam. Her name is Annie.
BL.[/QUOTE]Some months ago Hotel Soleil was closed. Nova and Alpha Genesis closed their Spas long time ago, forever.

An update from Radius / Soleil by someone who was on site recently would be appreciated. And Federal? Sky?

Try Bond Spa / Saboon Spa. Same establishment but change name every now and then. Selection is hit and miss! Mostly Thai, Vietnam, PRC.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2301540]I will be back soon to KL. Maybe some expert who has been there recently could provide an advice.

Hotel Soleil and Nova hotel spas are closed and will not be back. Alfa Genesis spa was closed years before them.
Besides Federal Hotel, what spas are currently open downtown (I know web sites and spas that are located well away from downtown) and offer the same kind of atmosphere and girls as those I was used to find at Hotel Soleil / Radius?

Any more closures or re-openings happened recently? Any recent update?
What about Skyriver? Green Elephant? What are the options in these days, if any?

I will not stay long, and besides BC I have an Indo girl who is working somewhere there as waitress, to who I promised I will take her and friend out for the night, but I wish to have a B-plan for after 2 am if BC only offers high-priced veteran sharks, as I am afraid it will be 90% of the times.
Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2301825]Try Bond Spa / Saboon Spa. Same establishment but change name every now and then. Selection is hit and miss! Mostly Thai, Vietnam, PRC.[/QUOTE]That sounds a very good suggestion. Thank you!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2301610]Some months ago Hotel Soleil was closed. Nova and Alpha Genesis closed their Spas long time ago, forever.
An update from Radius / Soleil by someone who was on site recently would be appreciated. And Federal? Sky?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2301825]Try Bond Spa / Saboon Spa. Same establishment but change name every now and then. Selection is hit and miss! Mostly Thai, Vietnam, PRC.[/QUOTE]There is also Genesis Spa, 10th floor HSBC Building.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2302067]There is also Genesis Spa, 10th floor HSBC Building.[/QUOTE]Which is NOT Alpha Genesis Spa... ;)

I have had few good luck from Changkat. Picked one Uzbek once and Indonesian another time. Best time would be after 11 pm at night and best location between Havana Grill and Hotel Soleil. Stick to the Bar side, not hotel soleil / Havana side and don't hesitate to bargain.

I used to stay 2 street down in Ramada Suites which is about 5-7 min walk from there.

[QUOTE=Forest;2301151]I agree with Mike. This is an impossible description. If you pick an area of the city that interests you, maybe someone will have suggestion.

I found that Bukit bintang met all of my day needs in KL (I just returned from there last week). Also, it is not difficult to establish BEFORE paying the fee if the girl will give you BBBJ, CBJ or full service and at what cost. Beware, they will start negotiations at 400! I paid 250 for BBBJ and FS. Great girl- very pretty and very sweet. There were plenty of 3's and 4's, but enough cuties that you will be satisfied.[/QUOTE]

Mostly for ST. Negotiate hard before you take. Do warn your though. Don't have expectation. Go all the way to the end of changkat and turn right towards LowYat plaza. Right after the money exchange, there is a middle age Chinese lady with heavy makeup will try to hold your and tap saying massage. Negotiate with here for your liking and see the girls first before paying.

Happy safe mongering.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2293744]Hi.

There are lots of girls in this street offering foot and bodymassage. Does anybody know if some of them offer full service and are willing to go to your hotel?

BL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2302224]Mostly for ST. Negotiate hard before you take. Do warn your though. Don't have expectation. Go all the way to the end of changkat and turn right towards LowYat plaza. Right after the money exchange, there is a middle age Chinese lady with heavy makeup will try to hold your and tap saying massage. Negotiate with here for your liking and see the girls first before paying.

Happy safe mongering.[/QUOTE]Is that the plaza near the Federal Hotel?

Pretty close to the federal building. If you exit from the Federal Spa Entrance, turn left and walk straight for 1 min and you will have LowYat plaza on the right and apple store on your left. You will turn left on the first street after apple store and walk straight all the way to the end till you reach the intersection. By now, you should be standing facing 2 Pakistani Restaurants (pretty good food). Cross the street towards restaurant and start looking right and you will see some signs for massage place and money exchange.

Best time to go would be afternoon / evening and you won't miss that Chinese lady. Just stand and light up a smoke and you will see her approaching you at no time. Once again, bargain hard and tell her your requirements.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2302277]Is that the plaza near the Federal Hotel?[/QUOTE]

Forgot to mention. Don't pay until you see the girls and settle your expectations. If PRC Lady say not possible. Give her an impression that you will walk away. If you want to take the therapist to your hotel room, make sure to put valuables in safety deposit box before you start your deeds. I'm not saying she would steal your money / phone but rather play safe.

On BB you may came across Indian looking guy try to sell you girls, stay away at any cost, quality is very poor and not worth the hassle and definitely not follow him.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2302277]Is that the plaza near the Federal Hotel?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2302580]Forgot to mention. Don't pay until you see the girls and settle your expectations. If PRC Lady say not possible. Give her an impression that you will walk away. If you want to take the therapist to your hotel room, make sure to put valuables in safety deposit box before you start your deeds. I'm not saying she would steal your money / phone but rather play safe.
On BB you may came across Indian looking guy try to sell you girls, stay away at any cost, quality is very poor and not worth the hassle and definitely not follow him.[/QUOTE]My experience is pimps on BB are total waste of time, usually scam or as said waste of time. Agreed never go to their place = set up for sure. Cut out the middle man. If you can't find and deal directly with the girls in KL either you aren't trying or too dumb. Be careful as some well dressed Chinese guys operate the same and result is the same.

Massage girls near McDonalds may be ok but you won't get much more out of them and quality is very variable. FL girls from KFC down to Federal are also the bottom end.

NI.

Agreed 100%. I don't waste my time with these street side massage place. Even well known Bond / Saboon Spa and Deluxe Spa In Federal hotel could be hit and miss. Regardless service will be much better than Street Side Spa. Considering Full Service options. A quick google search will turn up with a lot of varieties of options. One again bargaining is the key point depending on the looks.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2302852]My experience is pimps on BB are total waste of time, usually scam or as said waste of time. Agreed never go to their place = set up for sure. Cut out the middle man. If you can't find and deal directly with the girls in KL either you aren't trying or too dumb. Be careful as some well dressed Chinese guys operate the same and result is the same.

Massage girls near McDonalds may be ok but you won't get much more out of them and quality is very variable. FL girls from KFC down to Federal are also the bottom end.

NI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2298146]Next question will be: "What's RTFF?"[/QUOTE]Read The Fucking Forum.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;2303020]Read The Fucking Forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks for explaining! You got it. LOL!

Date & time of session: 03/31/20190:30 AM.

Place: Richmoore / ACE.

Name / Nick: Unknown (didn't think to ask).

Age: 25-ish.

From: Thailand.

Face: 8/10.

Body 9.5/10.

Boobs: the.

Average height. About 1.65.

Skin: Fair. OK.

BJ: 0/10.

FJ Rating: 5/10.

GFE: 0/10.

PSE: 0/10.

Damage: 100 ringgit, 20 min.

WIR: honestly don't know. For guys who don't have anything better to do, I guess it's a nice way to pass some time. Don't expect more.

So, I have been in KL for a couple days. Took a hostel in bukit bintang, and have been walking around a lot to scoot the places recommended in this forum. Finally had my first bang tonight, so here to report.

First place I checked was obviously beach club. Lots of beautiful girls nicely dressed, and old white guys in shirts looking like bank managers. Note to self: dress up a little before coming back here. Guess it will be easier to get a girl if I don't look like a cheap sweaty backpacker tourist.

Second place checked was Changkat, between Havana grill and hotel soleil. Arrived at about 11 pm. This place has a really good vibe. Don't know if it's always like that, or because it's Saturday night, but lots of bars, music, and people drinking around and having a good time. Doesn't really feel like a red light district. Problem: hard to tell apart normal partying girls from FL. This place is just cool, so I'm not surprised that some couples come here just to have a good time. Still spotted some FL, mainly drinking with old white guys, but for some other girls it was seriously hard to tell. Wasn't approached, and anyways, I was more here to get a feel of the place than to actually pick up a girl for the night, so I just took a pint and left.

Third place was right after. I was on the way to my hostel when I realized hotel richmoore wasn't far. From what I read here and the reviews on google map, this place place is the bottom of the barrel, but I wondered "Why not check at the very least". 00 h15. Not early, but not too late. OK, let's go. Roamed the streets a bit before finding the entrance. Neighborhood looks like a huge garbage dump. Smells like it too actually, and definitely doesn't feel safe. Finally found the entrance by following a group of local guys. And oh boys, the reports were right. No place for love here.

First flour looks a bit like a mall, but dimly lit in reddish light. Place is packed with people, some sitting, smoking and drinking. You can guess at first glance that you don't come here for quality. You come here to sate some urge. Anyway, I wanted to see some WG, and was definitely not disappointed here. I'd say there were about 50 girls lining up against the walls. From truck drivers, to WG in their 40's, to PRC, to Thais, you have everything here. Some really sexy girls too. That being said, I didn't really find anything to my liking, so decided to exit after a couple of turns around the flour. But surprise! It was raining buckets outside. Guess god wanted me to stay uh? So. I thought "okay, don't have anything better to do anyway", and I read that the girls were quite cheap here, so let's got have some fun while the storm is passing. Went back inside and noticed a fucking bombshell that wasn't here before. Thai, about 24-26 year old, big boobs, slim waist, some ass in a black short a red top. Had to fuck her.

To my surprise, she was trying really hard not to make eye contact. I guess some girls can afford to chose their client here, and since I wasn't exactly at my best physically (Big white guy over 1. 90 m, hairs not done, all sweaty from having walked around all evening), she looked seriously uninterested. But since it was the only was that caught my eye, I made the first step and asked her how much. Price was 100 myr for 20 min. Asked how much for 30 min, but she answered that it was too long. I really hesitated here cause I usually take a real long time to finish. But since I had nothing and no one better to do, I said OK. Even if I didn't finish, would still be better than waiting around doing nothing.

We went up to the 9th floor by the stair. Pro: I had a perfect view on her wonderful ass. Cons: fucking tiring. Finally arrived in her room. I gave her the money, and we undressed. She kind of HJ me with 2 fingers, then once semi-hard, put the condom on and lied down on the bed. Wasn't really expecting anything when coming here anyway, so I just pounded her in mish for 10 min. Began to tire a bit, so asked her to go on top. "Can't. Too long. Painful. ". Okaaaaay. Ended up finishing in doggy. Once finished, she immediately left the room to wash a bit. Went back, we both dressed up and left. All in all, I think she didn't say more than 5 sentences. Don't know if all the girls are like that or what, but left me the feeling that this place is really all about money. I mean, it's always about the money, but some girls will have better GFE for example. Here, you make the transaction, she does her job. You finish. Nothing less, nothing more. But well, I got to shag a beauty, and rain was over when I left, so I got what I wanted, so, no complains.

Nice FR Dude. Interesting experience I must say. I guess that elevator finally gave up.

I went there about 4 years ago with a local Taxi driver that I had known for a while. Tasted a nice PRC and too my surprise room was quite nice with shower option! Even though the bed sheet kinda gave me a feeling I'm not this only one who lay on it!

I actually offered PRC to come to my hotel but she was scared shitless. Apparently its much safer for them in Pudu and Richmoore than going to BB area.

Well. Happy safe mongering.

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2303097]Date & time of session: 03/31/20190:30 AM.

Place: Richmoore / ACE.

Name / Nick: Unknown (didn't think to ask).

Age: 25-ish.

From: Thailand.

Face: 8/10..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2303184]Nice FR Dude. Interesting experience I must say. I guess that elevator finally gave up.

I went there about 4 years ago with a local Taxi driver that I had known for a while. Tasted a nice PRC and too my surprise room was quite nice with shower option! Even though the bed sheet kinda gave me a feeling I'm not this only one who lay on it!

I actually offered PRC to come to my hotel but she was scared shitless. Apparently its much safer for them in Pudu and Richmoore than going to BB area.

Well. Happy safe mongering.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!

About the elevator: it's still working. But it's fucking slow. I wanted to take it to go down after the did. It took a good 10 min of waiting to arrive, and when it finally did, it was going up. So I think she might have had 2 reasons for going by the stairs: 1) she didn't want to lose her time waiting for it, as it meant less clients for her. 2) She wanted to tire me a bit before being pounded. Less tiring for her.

First Night:

Booked a To Bond / Saboon Spa from my AirBnb. Went up to the reception and was told to wait for the manager. Manager took me to Up to the waiting area and asked to wait for Papsam. Nice and Polite Chinese Malaysian Guy arrived apologizing for the wait. Took me upstairs informing selection is limited due to most of the girls being busy. Called for the lineup and and 3 beautiful girls arrived, Thai-PRC-VIET. Opted for viet as she was smiling at me with a very positive attitude. Paid RM375 + RM 15 Tips to papasam stating that's this Tea Tariq money (Teust me that pays off).

Went up to couple of floors to a decent looking room with AC. VIET had amazing nice body with curves on right spot. Gave me an okay massage with lots DFK, Sucking tits and lots of eye contact. Deed started with CBJ. Then to doggy, cowgirl & finished in missionary. Went to the washroom and girl cleaned me up well. Unfortunately they had issues with shower so had to leave without taking one.

Place: Bond / Saboon Spa.

Name: Maika.

Age: 26.

Country: Vietnam.

Face: 7/10.

Body 8/10.

Boobs: 6/10,34 B.

Skin: Milky Yellow-White.

CBJ: 8/10.

GFE: 6/10.

PSE: 3/10.

Damage: RM 375 + 15.

Took a grab and Went straight to BB LowYat plaza side and had some great food. Haggled with Chinese Lady Pimp just for fun and she knows me went back to AirBNB and called it a night.

Day Two:

Went to Nasri Kansar Pelati to charge the batteries Called my regular contact Sam and settled for a Back to Back session with Thai being first and Laos second.

Thai:

Went upto the room and knocked on her door. A goddess wearing lingerie opened the door. As I walked in, she gave me a kiss and shook Johny instead of my hand took a shower together and off to the bed with 46" flat screen TV on. Started with Great massage with lots DFK, BJ with lots of staring at my eyes for Responce, Every few minutes She would stop and put her tits in my mouth then go back to BJ, BJ lasted for about 15 good minutes of me being in pure heaven. Started the deed in cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, CBJ in between then finished in missionary making her bed wet. She had a big grin of satisfaction and she even said thanks for making me cum! She was even showing me her wet pussy and fluids dripping out of it. As per her, it takes a lot to satisfy her. Went to the washroom and took shower together with some more BJ. Even though time was 45 min per girl, she didn't look at the time and by the time I walked out it was 1 HR 10 min. Gave her RM 20 tip for amazing service.

Place: Some Jade dragon or Golden Dragon hotel.

Name: Mickey.

Age: 23.

Country: Thai.

Face: 9/10.

Body 9/10.

Boobs: 7/10,34 C.

Skin: Milky White.

BJ: 10/10.

GFE: 8/10.

PSE: 7/10.

Damage: RM 205 + 20 tip.

WIR: Absolutely but she in Subang now.

Girl Two: Laos.

Took a break for an hour and drank some juice, water and 4-5 smokes in downstairs waiting patio. Messaged Sam and gave me the room number. Went up to her door and as soon as knocked my Laos goddess opened the door. Right after closing the door she sat on the floor, opened my zipper and took Johny out and started BJ. Never had such experience in my life. After 2 min of BJ she got up saying with a cute shy smile "I had to say HI". Went to take shower together and she cleaned me up well with some more BJ and went straight to the bed.

Deed started with DFK and squeegeeing her nice firm boobs. Then she went down to BJ and that continued for good 10 min. All these time I was in seven heaven with my eyes closed enjoying every single moment of her mouth and lips action. She put the cover on and backed up to me for doggy. After pounding for good 10 min changed positions to cowgirl, lots of BJ in between then back to cowgirl and finally finished in missionary after good 30 min of pounding and sucking and DFK. She was very eager to please and tried her best to make me cum. She could barely walk for few minutes but had a big grin of satisfaction on her face. Went to the shower together and received some more BJ as if she was trying to wake up Johny again. Probably she wanted a second round of pounding. Even though time was 45 min per girl, she didn't look at the time and by the time I walked out it was more than 90 min. Gave her RM 20 tip for amazing service.

Place: Some Jade dragon or Golden Dragon hotel.

Name: Anna.

Age: 26.

Country: Laos.

Face: 9/10.

Body 9/10.

Boobs: 7/10,33 B.

Skin: Yellowish White Smooth.

BJ: 9/10.

GFE: 8/10.

PSE: 9/10.

Damage: RM 205 + 20 tip.

WIR: Absolutely but went back to Laos.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2303184]Nice FR Dude. Interesting experience I must say. I guess that elevator finally gave up.
I went there about 4 years ago with a local Taxi driver that I had known for a while. Tasted a nice PRC and too my surprise room was quite nice with shower option! Even though the bed sheet kinda gave me a feeling I'm not this only one who lay on it!
I actually offered PRC to come to my hotel but she was scared shitless. Apparently its much safer for them in Pudu and Richmoore than going to BB area.
Well. Happy safe mongering.[/QUOTE]Have often wondered about this. As yet have never been down to the Richmore Den mostly because of the ST ST nature, 20 minutes and go not for me, esp using bed clothing used by half of KL.

What are they scared of? If I like them then 2 hrs at my hotel would mean a payment of 350 maybe 400 which is like 5/6 times there 20 minutes sessions. Is it an immigration thing? Can they make that much doing multiple sessions in a day rather than pass up a big pay day in one hit?

Maybe exp. Long term mongers in KL can shed some light on this, please.

I would say visa / Immigration. A good number of them came in on a one-way ticket. Unsure if.

There is any syndicate involved in it! Besides, I think it's their comfort zone! Just like for us, our hotel room / condo.

My taxi driver told me he tried to pickup once and girl agreed for it then hours later she backed out and even changed her cell number. Maybe seniors can shed more light into the question of taking them out.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2303493]Have often wondered about this. As yet have never been down to the Richmore Den mostly because of the ST ST nature, 20 minutes and go not for me, esp using bed clothing used by half of KL.

What are they scared of? If I like them then 2 hrs at my hotel would mean a payment of 350 maybe 400 which is like 5/6 times there 20 minutes sessions. Is it an immigration thing? Can they make that much doing multiple sessions in a day rather than pass up a big pay day in one hit?

Maybe exp. Long term mongers in KL can shed some light on this, please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2303493]Have often wondered about this. As yet have never been down to the Richmore Den mostly because of the ST ST nature, 20 minutes and go not for me, esp using bed clothing used by half of KL.

What are they scared of? If I like them then 2 hrs at my hotel would mean a payment of 350 maybe 400 which is like 5/6 times there 20 minutes sessions. Is it an immigration thing? Can they make that much doing multiple sessions in a day rather than pass up a big pay day in one hit?

Maybe exp. Long term mongers in KL can shed some light on this, please.[/QUOTE]Immigration, most likely. Being gang banged and / or forced to do something she didn't want to would be a close second.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2303493]Have often wondered about this. As yet have never been down to the Richmore Den mostly because of the ST ST nature, 20 minutes and go not for me, esp using bed clothing used by half of KL.

What are they scared of? If I like them then 2 hrs at my hotel would mean a payment of 350 maybe 400 which is like 5/6 times there 20 minutes sessions. Is it an immigration thing? Can they make that much doing multiple sessions in a day rather than pass up a big pay day in one hit?

Maybe exp. Long term mongers in KL can shed some light on this, please.[/QUOTE]If the girl is pretty, she won't have trouble getting customers at Richmoore, and goes for 100 for 20 min. So, she will earn something like 400 to 500 in 2 h, free of risk, and without counting the time to go to and back from your hostel.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2303458]Girl Two: Laos.

Place: Some Jade dragon or Golden Dragon hotel.

Name: Anna.

Age: 26.

Country: Laos.

Face: 9/10.

Body 9/10.

Boobs: 7/10,33 B.

Skin: Yellowish White Smooth..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! A shame those ladies are not here anymore.

I have had good luck with Viet, PRC, Thai, Laos, Ujbek, and Indon but no local Malaysian Girls yet. Few of the spa advertised of having Local Malaysian but not luck. Any pointers or any contacts of Local Malaysia girls would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I'm referring to Local Malaysian girls not the Indian Looking Tamil / Malay girls. Thanks much in advanced.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2303493]Maybe exp. Long term mongers in KL can shed some light on this, please.[/QUOTE]

I must say you got some really good valid point and you are probably 100% right.

They will make money while staying within their safe and comfort zone. Unfortunately, they don't think or look at the scenario from same perspective as we do.

On the other hand, I met a Phillipina once in Ramada Suites Kuala Lumpur (Former Invito Hotel Suites), gives out an impression of high end CG and was quoting me RM650 for 1 shot 1 HR in her hotel room. I had told her another couple of hundred more and I can fly down to Philippines and get a better looking one and get a trip out of it. You can guess how well that conversation and deal ended I must say, KL is an amazing place where it caters all different kinds, shapes, sizes and price within its own vicinity which you will never find anywhere else in Asia.

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2303607]If the girl is pretty, she won't have trouble getting customers at Richmoore, and goes for 100 for 20 min. So, she will earn something like 400 to 500 in 2 h, free of risk, and without counting the time to go to and back from your hostel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2303764]I have had good luck with Viet, PRC, Thai, Laos, Ujbek, and Indon but no local Malaysian Girls yet. Few of the spa advertised of having Local Malaysian but not luck. Any pointers or any contacts of Local Malaysia girls would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I'm referring to Local Malaysian girls not the Indian Looking Tamil / Malay girls. Thanks much in advanced.[/QUOTE]Not that many around pubs & clubs, spas etc I have seen. Try suggestions above or mall wandering.

Extra points for hijab wearing.

NI.

Thanks bro. I will definitely explore that option. Last year I had found a butt ugly Hijabi from dating site and met up with her. And out to be a Batak. Fucked her couple of times. Don't ask for the experience, I bet I would have better experience fucking a dead fish.

There are Local Malays to have. Just need to find the right connection.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2304004]Not that many around pubs & clubs, spas etc I have seen. Try suggestions above or mall wandering.

Extra points for hijab wearing.

NI.[/QUOTE]

I visited Alpha Genesis spa in March 2017. Any idea when they closed it? I liked it though friendly captains and good lineup. Planning to visit KL in May.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2301610]Some months ago Hotel Soleil was closed. Nova and Alpha Genesis closed their Spas long time ago, forever.

An update from Radius / Soleil by someone who was on site recently would be appreciated. And Federal? Sky?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2304077]Thanks bro. I will definitely explore that option. Last year I had found a butt ugly Hijabi from dating site and met up with her. And out to be a Batak. Fucked her couple of times. Don't ask for the experience, I bet I would have better experience fucking a dead fish.
There are Local Malays to have. Just need to find the right connection.[/QUOTE]Just be aware of the Muslim factor in KL with Malay women. Can get you into a spot of trouble.

NI.

Thanks bro for your advice. Will definitely be cautious before exploring Hijabi. Biggest problem is, I don't speak Bahasa Malaysia! Hence gets quite difficult to do mall pickup, plus the Muslim factor adds on to it. Hopefully I will get lucky.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2304208]Just be aware of the Muslim factor in KL with Malay women. Can get you into a spot of trouble.

NI.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=HungryBird15;2268796]I had a limited opportunity to taste some food in KL recently. As a sure shot place, I went to Genesis. It was easy to locate, based on earlier FRs of this forum. Out of 3 Chinese options shown, I chose a well endowed one for RM 300, single shot, max. 1 hour. She was wearing glasses and looked really appealing. However, as soon as I entered the room, it all became very mechanical. She gave me a quick shower and bathed herself too. Gave me her body massage in the shower. After that we proceeded to the bed, which was uncomfortable because of the structure. She would immediately start the deed, while I wanted to have some time for foreplay. Had to really hold her back for 5-7 minutes for the deed. She was desperate to finish it fast. She was clean shaven and the hole looked good. But, she would not allow to finger. She herself gave a BBBJ, with some water in her mouth. I did not find it more appealing than a conventional BBBJ. Then we started the deed. Her English communication skill was next to zero. No DFK was allowed. I tried in missionary and doggy. She would not tolerate a little roughness also. Requested her to wear the specs, which she had on while I selected her..[/QUOTE]Is this Genesis Spa, 10th floor HSBC Building? Seems so.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2302067]There is also Genesis Spa, 10th floor HSBC Building.[/QUOTE]Can you recommend?

Also, I've just stumbled across:

[URL]https://www.my.locanto.asia[/URL]

It has some ads for mongering, normal massage (without extras) and some tantric. Here's a normal massage ad:

[URL]https://kualalumpur.my.locanto.asia/ID_1248491412/MALAY-Outcall-massage-KL.html[/URL]

Ad with links to mongering sites:

[URL]https://www.my.locanto.asia/x/high-class[/URL]

Was wondering if anyone has used the [URL]www.my.locanto.asia[/URL] site for normal massage incall.

Is this from a Escort agency? Can you please point in the right direction? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2303452]Day Two:

Went to Nasri Kansar Pelati to charge the batteries Called my regular contact Sam and settled for a Back to Back session with Thai being first and Laos second.

Thai:

Went upto the room and knocked on her door. A goddess wearing lingerie opened the door. As I walked in, she gave me a kiss and shook Johny instead of my hand took a shower together and off to the bed with 46" flat screen TV on. Started with Great massage with lots DFK, BJ with lots of staring at my eyes for Responce, Every few minutes She would stop and put her tits in my mouth then go back to BJ, BJ lasted for about 15 good minutes of me being in pure heaven. Started the deed in cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, CBJ in between then finished in missionary making her bed wet. She had a big grin of satisfaction and she even said thanks for making me cum! She was even showing me her wet pussy and fluids dripping out of it. As per her, it takes a lot to satisfy her..[/QUOTE]

I have tried them in my previous trips. They are legit with decent collection for the price offering. I have only tried incall though.

[QUOTE=PoohKeyLover;2291736]Have anyone tried Ahmoi2 u escort service in KL before? Are they legit?[/QUOTE]

I can definitely point you to the right direction if you can get your PM active. Not allowed to post phone number on the forum.

[QUOTE=Fawkes291;2304545]Is this from a Escort agency? Can you please point in the right direction? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Their incall place still in Pudu area? I found them pretty decent as well. Unlike others. Hike the price when when contacted? I only tried their outcall though. What I hated most, paying the driver part at lobby in front of other people! I don't know why it's a tread in KL to pay the driver instead of paying directly to the girl.

[QUOTE=Fawkes291;2304547]I have tried them in my previous trips. They are legit with decent collection for the price offering. I have only tried incall though.[/QUOTE]

As per my last visit they were still operating in the Pudu area. Never faced issue like price hike or bait and switch. Not sure about their outcall procedure though. Only tried in all with them. My regular hunting grounds was A1 spa in Alpha Genesis as I used to stay there and beach club.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2305281]Their incall place still in Pudu area? I found them pretty decent as well. Unlike others. Hike the price when when contacted? I only tried their outcall though. What I hated most, paying the driver part at lobby in front of other people! I don't know why it's a tread in KL to pay the driver instead of paying directly to the girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2305281] I don't know why it's a tread in KL to pay the driver instead of paying directly to the girl.[/QUOTE]I had the same surprise, when I first mongered in KL in 2014. I found a workaround: while booking the appointment (through whatzapp / call), ask for the cab number / driver number. I walk out of the hotel lobby, sit in the car and then, pay the driver. This will also give you a chance to evaluate if there is a bait & switch and also for the driver to count the money without putting me in awkward situation.

I got girls from amoi2 you multiple times, always outcall. Never had any issue.

LOL. One only knows who have experienced the awkwardness. My situation was bit different. I was staying at the 16th floor and handler confirmed of arrival of the girl. I was never told about paying the driver strategy, so went downstairs with excitement to pickup the girl without carrying money. After confirming the girl as I was about to walk in to the hotel, driver tells me to pay him or else girl won't be going anywhere! This is happening at the front porch while everyone is watching me!

So, I went up to the room while giving earful to the handler and got money. Went downstairs again and paid the driver who started counting the money and once satisfied, he shook my hand and signal the girl to follow me. Whole scene reminds me of a movie filmed in Detroit dealing with gangster. LOL. As I'm walking in with the girl, I saw everyone's eyes is glued in us. It was the longest walk and elevator trip of my life!

To add more, awkwardness counties when after doing the deed 2 x we literally felt exhausted, specially me after long flights and not being used to with the heat and humidity! Both of us fell on sleep. Got woken up by phone ringing in my room from hotel security asking if the girl is still in the room!

Overall, girl was very nice and friendly and pretty good action. At the end, happy go lucky.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2306050]I had the same surprise, when I first mongered in KL in 2014. I found a workaround: while booking the appointment (through whatzapp / call), ask for the cab number / driver number. I walk out of the hotel lobby, sit in the car and then, pay the driver. This will also give you a chance to evaluate if there is a bait & switch and also for the driver to count the money without putting me in awkward situation.

I got girls from amoi2 you multiple times, always outcall. Never had any issue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2306136]LOL. One only knows who have experienced the awkwardness.[/QUOTE]You just summarized my first experience in KL. LOL. In my case, adding salt to injury, driver assumed I am a Malaysian and started talking in local language that I clearly did not understand and obviously hotel staff understood. That was very awkward to say the least. After the deed, I usually drop the girl at the hotel entrance as courtesy. Hotel staff was all smiles since I had nice chat with them on that day morning about local sightseeing etc. Security guard gave man-to-man type of nod every night during my 9 day stay.

I have been following ISG from last couple of years and I don't recall this topic ever came as question or discussion. I have been thinking that I am the only one went through this and too embarrassed to ask / admit it.

Finally, I am relieved knowing that I am not alone.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2306136]LOL. One only knows who have experienced the awkwardness. My situation was bit different. I was staying at the 16th floor and handler confirmed of arrival of the girl. I was never told about paying the driver strategy, so went downstairs with excitement to pickup the girl without carrying money. After confirming the girl as I was about to walk in to the hotel, driver tells me to pay him or else girl won't be going anywhere! This is happening at the front porch while everyone is watching me!
So, I went up to the room while giving earful to the handler and got money. Went downstairs again and paid the driver who started counting the money and once satisfied, he shook my hand and signal the girl to follow me. Whole scene reminds me of a movie filmed in Detroit dealing with gangster. LOL. As I'm walking in with the girl, I saw everyone's eyes is glued in us. It was the longest walk and elevator trip of my life!
To add more, awkwardness counties when after doing the deed 2 x we literally felt exhausted, specially me after long flights and not being used to with the heat and humidity! Both of us fell on sleep. Got woken up by phone ringing in my room from hotel security asking if the girl is still in the room!
Overall, girl was very nice and friendly and pretty good action. At the end, happy go lucky.[/QUOTE]Beware of pimps who pull up in cars with rear seat full of girls. Had experience once where had 20 secs to pick one. How the f can you see when squashed into dark rear seat. Impossible to make out size, shape, etc.

Had a few experiences with pimps and car delivery. Some ok. Some crap. Won't go down that road again. My advice. Get on social media sites or pick up from bars. Deal direct.

NI.

I call that mobile Pimp I almost got fooled once by this Vietnamese Escort. Sent 6 girls in a van, all pretty much sitting on top of each other kinda looks like sardines in a van! Uncomfortness of 12 pairs of eyes plus the Pimp constantly telling you "good deal bro" and dick almost won but luckily I had a phone call from my boss and cane back to reality and told the driver to fuck off in a polite way humanly possible.

By the way, how and where do you find good contact in social media? Not trying those dating sites again as most chick uses more photoshop than any Playboy Magazine editors.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2306514]Beware of pimps who pull up in cars with rear seat full of girls. Had experience once where had 20 secs to pick one. How the f can you see when squashed into dark rear seat. Impossible to make out size, shape, etc.

Had a few experiences with pimps and car delivery. Some ok. Some crap. Won't go down that road again. My advice. Get on social media sites or pick up from bars. Deal direct.

NI.[/QUOTE]

If it makes you feel better bro, hotel I was staying at had a 4 days convention by KL Police on Crime and Trafficking and they had a KL Police car parked in front of the hotel now what do say you to that. LOL. I almost choked on my dry throat while inhaling oxygen after seeing the cop car as I was walking in to the lobby with the Basko / Bakso (Indonesian Girl). I literally felt like running away but couldn't think of any place to run to.

First time in my life I felt the pain of a prisoner who is going to be hanged to death knowing he is helpless! Thanks to Chivas Brothers Blend in my room, had to take 4 shots of it before I could calm down. Bakso goes like, very thirsty you can clearly guess what I did for next 4 days! No out call but visited different Spa's and SP's till that Cop car was taken away after the convention.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2306432]You just summarized my first experience in KL. LOL. In my case, adding salt to injury, driver assumed I am a Malaysian and started talking in local language that I clearly did not understand and obviously hotel staff understood. That was very awkward to say the least. After the deed, I usually drop the girl at the hotel entrance as courtesy. Hotel staff was all smiles since I had nice chat with them on that day morning about local sightseeing etc. Security guard gave man-to-man type of nod every night during my 9 day stay.

I have been following ISG from last couple of years and I don't recall this topic ever came as question or discussion. I have been thinking that I am the only one went through this and too embarrassed to ask / admit it.

Finally, I am relieved knowing that I am not alone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2306601]No out call but visited different Spa's and SP's till that Cop car was taken away after the convention.[/QUOTE]That sounds terrifying to me, given that it is a foreign country and indulging in not so honorable hobby. My experience fades away in comparison. Good that all ended well for you. I hope that Bakso somewhat calmed your nerves.

Thanks bro. It was some great read and exchange of experience. Still searching for some local Malay and Middle Eastern's. I had spotted some by the Fahrenheit but unsure how to approach!

One thing I must admit, KL is really the heaven of multi nationals. You don't really need to travel to other Asian countries if you don't mind paying bit higher price compared to their countries of origin.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2306831]That sounds terrifying to me, given that it is a foreign country and indulging in not so honorable hobby. My experience fades away in comparison. Good that all ended well for you. I hope that Bakso somewhat calmed your nerves.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2306958]Thanks bro. It was some great read and exchange of experience. Still searching for some local Malay and Middle Eastern's. I had spotted some by the Fahrenheit but unsure how to approach!

One thing I must admit, KL is really the heaven of multi nationals. You don't really need to travel to other Asian countries if you don't mind paying bit higher price compared to their countries of origin.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. Availability of different nationalities is what kept KL interesting for me. In the backpage days, I found several Jap, Korean FLs as well. Cost effective is something KL doesn't offer but hey, great variety / quality and cheap ain't coming together.

Has anyone tried the current talent at Hard Rock cafe?

Was there a month a go with a business mate and the ladies sitting around AR constantly trying to make eye contact. My mate well married so nothing going happen but I am going back KL soon, thought I might check out Hard Rock unless people think BC and Thai club better?

One hundred percent agreed bro. The way I look at it, a Bakso that costs RM 220-260 in kL, could be found in Indonesia for RM 180 but adding the air fare to it, comes out actually equal minus great KL atmosphere and food. Same goes for Thai. Could be bit cheaper but again, quality is and looks are higher in KL compared to Thailand and Indonesia. Also better service in KL because they won't be making money if mongers are not satisfied.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2307222]Completely agree. Availability of different nationalities is what kept KL interesting for me. In the backpage days, I found several Jap, Korean FLs as well. Cost effective is something KL doesn't offer but hey, great variety / quality and cheap ain't coming together.[/QUOTE]

Will be in KL next month for work and hoping some local brothers can give me an update on SR renovations / opening. Am sure they will have some great talent available for the reopening.

Hi bros,

Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?

Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.

Ciao.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2308420]Hi bros,
Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?
Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.
Ciao.[/QUOTE]Soapy = no. Crap massage followed by quick sex = yes.

FL average call out = BC. Despite what they quote you should get ST 2 hrs for 400.

TC= beware many here think they have golden pussies. Don't encourage high prices by paying.

If they are quoting crazy prices ST 600+ really means they don't like you or super greedy so ditch.

How much of the forum have you read? Do the legwork reap the rewards. Knowledge is power.

NI.

Greetings,

Just wanted to let any interested parties know that Beach Club and Thai Club are not letting any freelancers in tonight. A few freelancers over at Hard Rock Cafe though. I'm also told there might be some good hunting over at Zion, but I can't confirm. Tomorrow should be back to normal I'm told.

Good Hunting,

F2.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2308420]Hi bros,

Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?
Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.[/QUOTE]Promise? It would be more credible if first of all you promise to RTFF. It would be an enlightening reading about all your questions.

P.S.: Where are you from? Hate to say, but I noticed a negative correlation between some geolocation and the RTFF probability. Just to improve statistical confidence in the analysis.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2308420]Hi bros,

Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?

Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.

Ciao.[/QUOTE]Bro,

You already got couple of replies to this question and one straight answer is RTTF. If your defense against reading this forum is time, then, so as anyone's in this forum from replying you. Sorry for shooting straight, please understand that I only have positive intention in pushing you to read this forum.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2308501]..... FL average call out = BC. Despite what they quote you should get ST 2 hrs for 400....... [/QUOTE]Prices seem to have gone up in BC as well. Last time I took a friend who was visiting me to BC a month ago. Decent looking ones quoted upwards of 600 for short time and stuck to their guns. Made me to give up on BC. Just don't see why I should entertain this while I can get a much better girl and much better service in the neighbouring countries.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2308865]Prices seem to have gone up in BC as well. Last time I took a friend who was visiting me to BC a month ago. Decent looking ones quoted upwards of 600 for short time and stuck to their guns. Made me to give up on BC. Just don't see why I should entertain this while I can get a much better girl and much better service in the neighbouring countries.[/QUOTE]Was there July 2018 and girls consistently happy with 400 from me?

600 myr = over 200 AD. Won't be paying that!

NI.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2308677] {Snip}

P.S.: Where are you from? Hate to say, but I noticed a negative correlation between some geolocation and the RTFF probability. Just to improve statistical confidence in the analysis.[/QUOTE]I assume you have guessed the answer to that question.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2308865]Prices seem to have gone up in BC as well. Last time I took a friend who was visiting me to BC a month ago. Decent looking ones quoted upwards of 600 for short time and stuck to their guns. Made me to give up on BC. Just don't see why I should entertain this while I can get a much better girl and much better service in the neighbouring countries.[/QUOTE]Take a plane and fly in neighbouring countries, s but then factor the airfare.

Very much true. Like I said on my previous post, whether flying to northern or southern countries, adding airfare, hotel and other costs, sums up to equal. Moreover, no other Asian countries hosts such diversities like KL offers.

I tend to stay more at AirBNB in KL oppose to hotel for more freedom and space and the quality, where in neighboring countries we are stuck in hotels because AirBnB is a hit and miss there.

Another point would be, Thai that can be found in KL for RM440 3 hrs 2 shot, it will require some extensive digging in Bangkok / Pattaya to come even close. One of my SP once told me, they go through quite a sorting and selection before importing one in KL because if girl is not a stunner / looker, they won't be making any money. Where in Thailand, you literally need a reverse photo filter to find the real charmer.

I admire the skills of all the brothers who hunts in BC / TC but if no haggling ST is your thing. There are always alternatives such as Spa and Escorts.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2308906]Take a plane and fly in neighbouring countries, s but then factor the airfare.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2308876]Was there July 2018 and girls consistently happy with 400 from me?

600 myr = over 200 AD. Won't be paying that!

NI.[/QUOTE]Not too long ago. Just over a month. I used to take out LT for about 500 in BC. My last trip made me wonder.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2308906]Take a plane and fly in neighbouring countries, s but then factor the airfare.[/QUOTE]True. One goes out to the neighboring countries at least on a 4 to 5 days trip. The airfare and accommodation cost levels out and at times little more pricier than KL mongering. But you get better quality and service.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2308953]Not too long ago. Just over a month. I used to take out LT for about 500 in BC. My last trip made me wonder.[/QUOTE]Are you of Indian descent?

NI.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2306136]LOL. One only knows who have experienced the awkwardness. My situation was bit different. I was staying at the 16th floor and handler confirmed of arrival of the girl. I was never told about paying the driver strategy, so went downstairs with excitement to pickup the girl without carrying money. After confirming the girl as I was about to walk in to the hotel, driver tells me to pay him or else girl won't be going anywhere! This is happening at the front porch while everyone is watching me!

So, I went up to the room while giving earful to the handler and got money. Went downstairs again and paid the driver who started counting the money and once satisfied, he shook my hand and signal the girl to follow me. Whole scene reminds me of a movie filmed in Detroit dealing with gangster. LOL. As I'm walking in with the girl, I saw everyone's eyes is glued in us. It was the longest walk and elevator trip of my life!

To add more, awkwardness counties when after doing the deed 2 x we literally felt exhausted, specially me after long flights and not being used to with the heat and humidity! Both of us fell on sleep. Got woken up by phone ringing in my room from hotel security asking if the girl is still in the room!

Overall, girl was very nice and friendly and pretty good action. At the end, happy go lucky.[/QUOTE]I have always hated this paying to driver approach. Back when I was living in Delhi, many SPs used to scam like this. Some bring the wrong girl and only shows you after full payment, some just runs after payment, and not counting the fact that it's quite embarrassing.

I was coming to KL in couple of months for business, and thought would give it a try here, but now knowing that this is how most of the times payments happens, I might not indulge in mongering at all.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2308420]Hi bros,

Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?

Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.

Ciao.[/QUOTE]Gave you the benefit of the doubt when I answered your question a couple of weeks ago about Ramadan. But come on mate, didn't you get the hint then and actually do a bit of reading of the forum.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2308996]Are you of Indian descent?

NI.[/QUOTE]I know where you are going. Yes, I'm an Indian expat working in KL. If you arrive at the conclusion that is the reason behind the inflated quote by the girls, mind you I never had a problem taking girls for the going rate. Again, I'm not here to prove a point that one place is better than the other. If someone says that the prices remain the same after testing the waters, I'm more than happy to know. It's always better to have an option closer to home.

P. S: You may have forgotten, we have exchanged PMs on BC scene.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2309009]Gave you the benefit of the doubt when I answered your question a couple of weeks ago about Ramadan. But come on mate, didn't you get the hint then and actually do a bit of reading of the forum.[/QUOTE]I am grateful for that. Thanks. I am trying but on pg 130 out of 15000, so would be a while before I complete my RTFF.

Somehow bizarrely my questions seem to have introduced race into the mix (not you, not you, but comments from Stykler / Black page / New Image etc.), so guess no more questions from me.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2309012]I know where you are going. Yes, I'm an Indian expat working in KL. If you arrive at the conclusion that is the reason behind the inflated quote by the girls, mind you I never had a problem taking girls for the going rate. Again, I'm not here to prove a point that one place is better than the other. If someone says that the prices remain the same after testing the waters, I'm more than happy to know. It's always better to have an option closer to home.
P. S: You may have forgotten, we have exchanged PMs on BC scene.[/QUOTE]Have found that some (not all) WG have a preference for Caucasian men and esp Asian men. Don't worry I know I come second to Japanese, Korean and other wealthy money splurging Asians, thus seldom do I roam at Thai Club. I am going soon in June so will test the waters. I have found being a Caucasian Western man who presents ok works in my favour. Also my MO maybe helps, I think. Like usual will report in detail and hopefully pay prices less than 600ST.

Quite frankly if I was in the this business rejecting a customer for 400 is ludicrous esp when you consider many nights they go home penniless.

NI.

Don't let that throw you off! Tell the SP / Handler of your requirements and be specific about pictures matching the girl. Also, tell him about paying the girl not the driver and be firm about it. Worst case of Scenario, hand driver an envelope and driver can count the money while waiting for pickup. If we all are firm about it, I don't see any reason for them not to agree. At least you can try.

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2309002]I have always hated this paying to driver approach. Back when I was living in Delhi, many SPs used to scam like this. Some bring the wrong girl and only shows you after full payment, some just runs after payment, and not counting the fact that it's quite embarrassing.

I was coming to KL in couple of months for business, and thought would give it a try here, but now knowing that this is how most of the times payments happens, I might not indulge in mongering at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2309206].....I am going soon in June so will test the waters. I have found being a Caucasian Western man who presents ok works in my favour. Also my MO maybe helps, I think. Like usual will report in detail and hopefully pay prices less than 600ST....

NI.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. Do let us know if the rates remain the same as before. By the way, my friend ended up picking up the girl for 700 LT since he was leaving the following day.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2309203]I am grateful for that. Thanks. I am trying but on pg 130 out of 15000, so would be a while before I complete my RTFF.
Somehow bizarrely my questions seem to have introduced race into the mix (not you, not you, but comments from Stykler / Black page / New Image etc.), so guess no more questions from me.[/QUOTE]See that search box up on right hand side. That could be helpful with specific place or phrase. Ala Beach Club / Soapy massage. Have you consulted "Reports of Distinction"?

When asking a question best begin with some knowledge gleamed from forum " So I have read from the forum that FL from BC for ST were 400 in 2018 or a report by BP said that. ".

Also when looking for detail you want it to be current so things like prices don't bother going back any further than a year, with places maybe 2 years at most. If you have gone back 130 pages time to stop my friend.

As for the race thing, if I were a hot looking 28 year old English boy than this would affect my ability to pick up and pricing. Be it right or wrong its important to play the hand you are dealt and its no good sooking about what you can't change.

A famous man once said "God helps those who help themselves " which has got nothing to do with shoplifting.

NI.

Bro,

Before it gets too far, This is a very helpful forum when it comes to gather intel on mongering scene and RTFF is the only way to accomplish that. We all read pages over pages and established our own mongering tactics.

Skyler, Black Page and New Image. They are very helpful guys and simply pointing you to the right direction. There are no straight answers for intel but to gather yourself. We can all tell you prices and places but would you score the same deal as others does based on their skills, Probably not! That's where RTFF comes in handy.

When mongering in Asia, a race factor does plays a big role but luckily you are doing that in KL and you got the upper hand because of multi diversity. If it makes you feel better, Because of my mix race and complexion, I can blend in as an Indian, Arab, Latino and somewhat Caucasian if the light is dim and Girl is drunk. LOL. Just do your research, play your game right and the trophy is yours (for that night. LOL) If you shows up in BC / TC wearing Sneaker, Jeans, Long sleeves shirt with an aroma of cumin mixed up with sweat and start bargaining half price of what girls are asking. Chances are you won't get far! That's where forum reading comes in handy on what to bargain for.

Once I met a model looking Thai mixed with Spanish girl in Bangkok and she told me straight up "no Indian". Luckily my North American accent came in to rescue and girl changed her mind and I knew where she got the impression and I don't blame her for a bit and till this day, every time I go to Bangkok, she makes sure to hands me her ass on a platter! How did I manage to score that! Short answer RTFF.

In one sentence. RTFF, Play smart and Play right. Happy Safe mongering.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2309203]I am grateful for that. Thanks. I am trying but on pg 130 out of 15000, so would be a while before I complete my RTFF.

Somehow bizarrely my questions seem to have introduced race into the mix (not you, not you, but comments from Stykler / Black page / New Image etc.), so guess no more questions from me.[/QUOTE]

Good advice bud. Forum should make a sticky note of it. For the sake of it, you should add "Knowledge is power and patience is a virtue of RTFF" lmao.

Best read ever "A famous man once said "God helps those who help themselves" which has got nothing to do with shoplifting."

[QUOTE=NewImage;2309339]See that search box up on right hand side. That could be helpful with specific place or phrase. Ala Beach Club / Soapy massage. Have you consulted "Reports of Distinction"?

When asking a question best begin with some knowledge gleamed from forum " So I have read from the forum that FL from BC for ST were 400 in 2018 or a report by BP said that. ".

Also when looking for detail you want it to be current so things like prices don't bother going back any further than a year, with places maybe 2 years at most. If you have gone back 130 pages time to stop my friend..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2309406]Bro,
If you shows up in BC / TC wearing Sneaker, Jeans, Long sleeves shirt with an aroma of cumin mixed up with sweat and start bargaining half price of what girls are asking. Chances are you won't get far!
In one sentence. RTFF, Play smart and Play right. Happy Safe mongering.[/QUOTE]Agree with Z's comments but something interesting.
My usual garb for BC is sneakers, blue jeans and a black t shirt. Sometimes I wear a polo and better dress pants with casual shoes but find first set of clothes gives a casual look. Now this does not mean sloppy, smelly and unkempt look. Hygiene is very important too.
I have quite a muscular frame and try to act confidently but definitely not arrogantly. I am over 55 but am not trying to look like a 20 something cool dude. Works for me. (or is it just my money. Does clothes maketh the man?
And yes my opening offer for ST is always 350 plus 50/100 tip for performance.
NI.

NI,

I was trying to say the same thing that you have described. Yours sounds more "what to wear" compared to mine "what not to wear" there are significant differences between our dress code compared to the crowd I'm referring to and also the negotiation skills.

I wish I could post a picture of the outfit these certain kind of crowd wears but I'm going to strongly refrain myself from doing so.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2309574]Agree with Z's comments but something interesting.
My usual garb for BC is sneakers, blue jeans and a black t shirt. Sometimes I wear a polo and better dress pants with casual shoes but find first set of clothes gives a casual look. Now this does not mean sloppy, smelly and unkempt look. Hygiene is very important too.
I have quite a muscular frame and try to act confidently but definitely not arrogantly. I am over 55 but am not trying to look like a 20 something cool dude. Works for me. (or is it just my money. Does clothes maketh the man?
And yes my opening offer for ST is always 350 plus 50/100 tip for performance.
NI.[/QUOTE]

I walked past the old Skyriver place behind Farenheit Mall yesterday and noticed that it is now called Hokkaido. Not sure if it is open though.

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with ordering an outcall to an airbnb or serviced apartments? Been thinking of ordering massages or escorts there but I'm not too familiar if there are any rules or guides to guest-friendly ones.

I know that in general a 5 star hotel would be discrete but am thinking of trying out the airbnbs since some of them come with really good facilities and are newer. Only problem is, they might not be regularly cleaned so short stays are better recommended.

First tip discretion. Try to book it at Large Condominium Compound. You would have to tell the driver / escort / masseuse your building number and condo number and your name. Tell the girl to dress appropriately but not an obvious ho (very important).

Once arrived, you would have to meet them at the reception or in front of the building. Try to do money exchange discreetly and if possible not in front of building security. Better if you could do that sitting in car. Bring the girl out holding her hands and pretend you know each other for long time.

Usually it's not a biggie if it's a large condominium like IJN or Setia but ultimately discretion is your key. I've been staying in condo for my past trips and I prefer them over any upscale hotel. Condo comes with everything you may require to clean yourself or you can also make arrangements with condo owner for a small fee to get the cleaning done.

Hope that helps. Happy safe mongering!

[QUOTE=Akumababa;2311163]Hi,

Does anyone have experience with ordering an outcall to an airbnb or serviced apartments? Been thinking of ordering massages or escorts there but I'm not too familiar if there are any rules or guides to guest-friendly ones.

I know that in general a 5 star hotel would be discrete but am thinking of trying out the airbnbs since some of them come with really good facilities and are newer. Only problem is, they might not be regularly cleaned so short stays are better recommended.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2311384]First tip discretion. Try to book it at Large Condominium Compound. You would have to tell the driver / escort / masseuse your building number and condo number and your name. Tell the girl to dress appropriately but not an obvious ho (very important).

Once arrived, you would have to meet them at the reception or in front of the building. Try to do money exchange discreetly and if possible not in front of building security. Better if you could do that sitting in car. Bring the girl out holding her hands and pretend you know each other for long time.

Usually it's not a biggie if it's a large condominium like IJN or Setia but ultimately discretion is your key. I've been staying in condo for my past trips and I prefer them over any upscale hotel. Condo comes with everything you may require to clean yourself or you can also make arrangements with condo owner for a small fee to get the cleaning done.

Hope that helps. Happy safe mongering![/QUOTE]That's fair enough and informative! They are also about 20-30% cheaper too and might come with better facilities. Additionally I don't think staff there keep that tight a leash on visitors. Although the down side is that the lack of clean ups, and no prior security that it would be guest friendly. Being new to the city and having heard that its conservative, I'm still thinking of getting a proper 4-5 star hotel but this has given me food for thought!

Hi there,

I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?

My primary concern is the cost.

My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find one real quality girl.

Price: Manila over KL.

Quality: KL over Manila.

Looks: KL over Manila. Also, depends on what floats your boat!

Availability: Tough one. KL has multinationals for right price. Manila only has Philipina for a very cheap price depending on quality.

GFE / Kind: That's totally depends on your luck. KL girls tend to provide better service compared to Manila as they come from other countries and they won't make money if service is poor. Philipina, hit-and-miss. Some provides top notch and some provide very poor service.

IMHO: If price and quantity is your concern, go to Angeles City. Very cheap for okay quality. Don't forget to factor in Air Fare and Accommodation from your departing country.

My experience: I've been to Manila an I would avoid it at any cost! But then I don't like very skinny girls with no boobs or ass. That's why I stick to KL or Jakarta.

Hope that helps making your decision. Happy Safe Mongering!

[QUOTE=KY694;2311664]Hi there,

I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?

My primary concern is the cost.

My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find one real quality girl.[/QUOTE]

It's yours to make the decision brother. I find it more safe and convenient compared to Hotels actually. Every condominium has main entrance / gate security and then building security. Elevators are only accessible though a keycard and stops only at designated floor. You can get the cleaning done for a fraction of price such as RM15-25. Most Condo comes with Full size kitchen, Washer / Dryer same as you would get in your own condo / apartment. Also, a nice balcony of you are a smoker.

It's is very much Guest Friendly as long as you don't advertise out loud "I'm taking a hooker in my condo" like the Overly Drunk African-American dude did in Condo I stayed on my last visit.

Like I said, I've been staying in Condo for past 3/4 years and wouldn't stay at a 5* hotel even for a 50% discounted rate compared to a condo.

Happy safe mongering!

[QUOTE=Akumababa;2311662]That's fair enough and informative! They are also about 20-30% cheaper too and might come with better facilities. Additionally I don't think staff there keep that tight a leash on visitors. Although the down side is that the lack of clean ups, and no prior security that it would be guest friendly. Being new to the city and having heard that its conservative, I'm still thinking of getting a proper 4-5 star hotel but this has given me food for thought![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KY694;2311664]Hi there,

I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?

My primary concern is the cost.

My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find one real quality girl.[/QUOTE]Hi KY Jelly.

Having been to both KL and Manila a couple of times (you can see my reports of some trips in both forums), here is my take (of course to each their own, others might have different experiences).

1. Cost: Depends where you are coming from. If going from Singapore, the travel cost to KL is so much lower, that the slightly higher you pay for girls gets offset. Manila girls may charge / cost less, but the cost of getting there is more (again, using Singapore as a starting point. Take for example the return fare to KL, 83 sing $ on a budget carrier, versus more than 300 Sing $ to Manila.

2. Availability: Tons of women available in both. Manila has mostly (say 95%) Philipinas, whereas in KL you can find Chinese, Viets, Philipinas, Thai, occasional Indian and Pakistani, Iranian, Uzbek, and other. Stans. And an occasional Japanese or Korean too. Cost varies by nationality.

3. Friendliness: I would hand that to the Filipina's any day.

Hope the above doctoral thesis on the Economic returns of mongering in 2 of SE Asia's hubs helps you.

Cheers.

KF.

[QUOTE=KY694;2311664]Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find one real quality girl.[/QUOTE]If your primary concern is cost go to Angeles. Why the f pay more in Manila when down the road things are 1500/2000 peso cheaper. Fly in to Manila, stay 1 night or go straight to Angeles.

Attitude and availability (and sample size) Philippines wins.

But as others have eluded to, when comparing, factor in where you are coming from, accommodation and esp hassle and shit infrastructure. In Phil you know you are in a third world country. What price do you put on the shit you have to put up with in the Philippines?
Something I often do is work out a cost per day total - meaning add flights, accom, food and daily spending and mongering money. Then compare and I often say hey for "x" amount of dollars more I don't have to put up with .......

I go to Phil for the hoes and pay less, I go to KL for the sweet Viet girls and pay more, each has its merits.

If you prepared to go to KL have you considered Jakarta or Phnom Penh re price ????

NI.

Hey guys,

Need help in Kuala lampur. Prefer Filipinos or Vietnam's. In call only. Or any suggestions to lead because with family friends. All service. Could not find in smooci. Will be here for next two days.

Thank you mates.

The question is: where are all those nice Pinay, who were available in quantity in KL until few years ago??

They seem to be disappeared. Last years I remember I have seen only 1 or 2 (old) in BC, nobody in Changkat.

For my, Philippine girls are the best.

Greetings,

I was in KL over the last week and spent a bit of time at Beach Club. During that time I had a number of conversations with the freelancers and due to my fluency in Vietnamese, a few of them opened up to me about how things work there. Just wanted to share some of the commentary and observations.

- Less freelancers in the bar. It appears there are less freelancers working at Beach Club since last year. Immigration has been cracking down rather harshly on the working girls the past few weeks and the effects of that are showing. Most all the girls I spoke with are Vietnamese. Although they are probably around, I didn't run into any Thai or Filipino ladies. The east European girls that used to hang out by the round table near the front are gone. It turns out that the owner of BC has responded to the crack down by restricting the number of bargirls in the main area of the bar and there is a separate queue for the bargirls that forms at the stairs going down to the Viet cafe below the club. Some days, the girls are restricted to the bar area only and not allowed to stand in the outer area of the club that's visible from the street. So, the take away here is if you don't see anyone you like in the bar, try having a look down in the cafe below the club.

- Pricing. The average opening ask from the girls seems to be 500-600 for ST and 1000 or more for LT. Obviously, how negotiable this number is will vary based on how much they like you, their past experience with customers, how busy they've been recently and other factors.

If a girl isn't really into you, she may throw out a high number that she thinks you won't accept, but would make her greedy side super happy on the rare chance you do. If this happens to you, it should be a red flag that the session with her will likely be "perfunctory" with little chance of a GFE. I observed this firsthand when a girl I was chatting with got pulled away by another friend of hers to talk with two middle eastern looking gents to negotiate a team session. It didn't work out and the girl returned to me later and told me they offered 1000 for both of them ST, but she wanted 1000 for each ST. She told me she threw out that number because she doesn't like "Arab" guys because (in her experience) they are abusive. And on that note.

- Preferences. It really does seem to vary from girl to girl. Some girls like tourists because they are concerned about immigration (more on that later). Some girls like locals because there is a chance to establish an ongoing relationship and steady flow of compensation. Some girls avoid westerners because their sausage and potatoes are too big and painful. Some girls won't go with south Asians because they fear coming back to a hotel and finding 6 more guys in the hotel room that want to be serviced too. Most of the girls won't go with guys that are drunk or near drunk over concerns they won't be paid later.

- Immigration issues. This can play into whether a girl will go with you or not. If you look like a local, a freelancer may not go with you if she suspects you might be working for immigration. If you fall in this category, bring some ID. I'm looking at you my Singaporean and Chinese brothers. Many of the Viet girls at the bar make use of a rather shady "travel" service to overstay months at a time. All the freelancers I spoke with had an abiding concern about being caught up by immigration.

I doubt any of this is really new for long time Beach Club veterans, but I found it interesting coming from the girls.

Good hunting,

FT.

[QUOTE=Veejay;2308420]Hi bros,

Visiting KL next month and planning for day / night entertainment and company. Does KL have Thai style soapy massage places? Would kill for a soapy massage. Also, when it comes to FLs, what is a average outcall rate for 2 hours in say Thai or Beach cafe?

Don't have much to give back now, but promise to write a detailed FR.

Ciao.[/QUOTE]KL has no soapies. Recently the new government with a more honest police force have cracked down on the cops that accept money from the MPs to protect the MPs.

When in KL I normally call Sean. Google for Tranticmassage and KL and you should get his number. RM350 for 2 hours outcall.

Girl comes to your room, strips fully naked, and gives you a sensual massage, B2B, balls and dick massage and end with a HJ. Depending on chemistry, she may allow you to mutually HJ her as well and kiss.

Selection of China, Indon and local FLs. Mostly are quite shapely MILF. Try as I might, I could not get anyone to do FS even if I raise the tip. Only once managed to get one of them to BBBJ and CIM.

But hey if you want a girl to slowly and sensually rub her body all over you, (but without the soap), try this.

[QUOTE=FoxTwo;2312868]Greetings,

I was in KL over the last week and spent a bit of time at Beach Club. During that time I had a number of conversations with the freelancers and due to my fluency in Vietnamese, a few of them opened up to me about how things work there. Just wanted to share some of the commentary and observations.
- Less freelancers in the bar. It appears there are less freelancers working at Beach Club since last year. Immigration has been cracking down rather harshly on the working girls the past few weeks and the effects of that are showing. Most all the girls I spoke with are Vietnamese. Although they are probably around, I didn't run into any Thai or Filipino ladies. The east European girls that used to hang out by the round table near the front are gone. It turns out that the owner of BC has responded to the crack down by restricting the number of bargirls in the main area of the bar and there is a separate queue for the bargirls that forms at the stairs going down to the Viet cafe below the club. Some days, the girls are restricted to the bar area only and not allowed to stand in the outer area of the club that's visible from the street. So, the take away here is if you don't see anyone you like in the bar, try having a look down in the cafe below the club.
- Pricing. The average opening ask from the girls seems to be 500-600 for ST and 1000 or more for LT. Obviously, how negotiable this number is will vary based on how much they like you, their past experience with customers, how busy they've been recently and other factors.
If a girl isn't really into you, she may throw out a high number that she thinks you won't accept, but would make her greedy side super happy on the rare chance you do. If this happens to you, it should be a red flag that the session with her will likely be "perfunctory" with little chance of a GFE. I observed this firsthand when a girl I was chatting with got pulled away by another friend of hers to talk with two middle eastern looking gents to negotiate a team session. It didn't work out and the girl returned to me later and told me they offered 1000 for both of them ST, but she wanted 1000 for each ST. She told me she threw out that number because she doesn't like "Arab" guys because (in her experience) they are abusive. And on that note.
- Preferences. It really does seem to vary from girl to girl. Some girls like tourists because they are concerned about immigration (more on that later). Some girls like locals because there is a chance to establish an ongoing relationship and steady flow of compensation. Some girls avoid westerners because their sausage and potatoes are too big and painful. Some girls won't go with south Asians because they fear coming back to a hotel and finding 6 more guys in the hotel room that want to be serviced too. Most of the girls won't go with guys that are drunk or near drunk over concerns they won't be paid later.
- Immigration issues. This can play into whether a girl will go with you or not. If you look like a local, a freelancer may not go with you if she suspects you might be working for immigration. If you fall in this category, bring some ID. I'm looking at you my Singaporean and Chinese brothers. Many of the Viet girls at the bar make use of a rather shady "travel" service to overstay months at a time. All the freelancers I spoke with had an abiding concern about being caught up by immigration.
I doubt any of this is really new for long time Beach Club veterans, but I found it interesting coming from the girls.
Good hunting,
FT.[/QUOTE]Well done. Excellent research. This is the sort of " straight from the horses mouth" reporting that I appreciate. Yes many things we know before but reinforcing these area good thing. Sad to see BC are cutting down on numbers. I wonder where now they hang out?

NI.

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2312912]KL has no soapies. Recently the new government with a more honest police force have cracked down on the cops that accept money from the MPs to protect the MPs.
When in KL I normally call Sean. Google for Tranticmassage and KL and you should get his number. RM350 for 2 hours outcall.
Girl comes to your room, strips fully naked, and gives you a sensual massage, B2B, balls and dick massage and end with a HJ. Depending on chemistry, she may allow you to mutually HJ her as well and kiss.
Selection of China, Indon and local FLs. Mostly are quite shapely MILF. Try as I might, I could not get anyone to do FS even if I raise the tip. Only once managed to get one of them to BBBJ and CIM.
But hey if you want a girl to slowly and sensually rub her body all over you, (but without the soap), try this.[/QUOTE]Hey man used Sean before - older Chinese man well dressed - usually works near Novotel escalators going up to Pavillion - if it was the same Sean prob not? - If you are not getting FS and BBBJ for 350 you are being ripped off.
Up to you.
P.S. Used him twice. And a few others. Won't use pimps in KL ever again.
NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2313114]Hey man used Sean before - older Chinese man well dressed - usually works near Novotel escalators going up to Pavillion - if it was the same Sean prob not? - If you are not getting FS and BBBJ for 350 you are being ripped off.
Up to you.
P.S. Used him twice. And a few others. Won't use pimps in KL ever again.
NI.[/QUOTE]No, no, this Sean does not work the streets. He is also not a pimp. He made it clear his girls provide tantric massage. No sex. Its 2 hours of tantric play with a he. If looking for FS, then his service is not for you.

I was just responding to a bro here asking for a soapy. My point is there is no soapy but tantric is close enough with a lot of sexual caresses, B2B play except without the soap. However his girls will not have sex.

There is another tantric shop too and can only book online / telephone. I read some of the ladies there are willing to go all the way but need to add another RM $XXX tip on top of their RM380 fee.

[QUOTE=KY694;2311664]Hi there,

I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?

My primary concern is the cost.

My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find one real quality girl.[/QUOTE]Less hassle and cheaper? Philippines.

Variety? KL.

Food? KL LOL.

YMMV with each individual mongering experience with a girl but overall that would be my take as others have mentioned.

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2313590]No, no, this Sean does not work the streets. He is also not a pimp. He made it clear his girls provide tantric massage. No sex. Its 2 hours of tantric play with a he. If looking for FS, then his service is not for you.
I was just responding to a bro here asking for a soapy. My point is there is no soapy but tantric is close enough with a lot of sexual caresses, B2B play except without the soap. However his girls will not have sex.
There is another tantric shop too and can only book online / telephone. I read some of the ladies there are willing to go all the way but need to add another RM $XXX tip on top of their RM380 fee.[/QUOTE]2 hrs of tantric. So that equals to at least 3 pops. I suppose if its long and drawn out and includes a decent massage but hey for me if I am horny after 20 ins I want to explode. LOL.

For 380 just for he they better be model featured.

NI.

Air Asia flight between KUL and Bangkok / Pattaya shows USD $99-103 = RM413. A decent Soapy in Sabai dee costs THB1850 = RM233 with a very happy ending.

Brothers, decision and choice is your. LMAO.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2313991]2 hrs of tantric. So that equals to at least 3 pops. I suppose if its long and drawn out and includes a decent massage but hey for me if I am horny after 20 ins I want to explode. LOL.

For 380 just for he they better be model featured.

NI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Franga;2310372]I walked past the old Skyriver place behind Farenheit Mall yesterday and noticed that it is now called Hokkaido. Not sure if it is open though.[/QUOTE]Anyone can vouch for the new Skyriver?

[QUOTE=Franga;2310372]I walked past the old Skyriver place behind Farenheit Mall yesterday and noticed that it is now called Hokkaido. Not sure if it is open though.[/QUOTE]Definitely not open. I went there on Thursday about 10 pm. It has two yellow lamps on each side of front door. Hokkaido, is next to it. (I think that's a restaurant).

I asked the guy at the Chinese restaurant in the corner of the street (the guy outside with a desk). He said, sky river is the one with the two yellow lamps. Seems he's right, because on google maps skyriver is still there and the picture has two yellow lamps.

Went there pressed the bell a few times, no answer.

Actually, I first visited Green Elephant (near low yat plaza) in Bukit Bintang. Asked papasan the score. Seemed okay (about 200 RM for Vietnamese, Indonesian, Thai. 300 RM for chinese with B2B). However, when I asked if I could see a room, he said they are all booked. Wasn't sure cleanliness. So that's how come I went to sky river. Since that was closed went to Fuji spa.

This was my second time at fuji. It wasn't as good as the first. Not sure if I was lucky with the first punt or unlucky with the 2nd. I'll try and post full report about both later.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2314194] Hokkaido, is next to it. (I think that's a restaurant).

[/QUOTE]Here is the photo. It says refleksologi and aromaterapi above the name "Hokkaido", so it doesn't look like a restaurant to me.

Was in KL so called my favorite Viet for and outcall service to my hotel at BB. She was free so we are set.

She arrived in her usual baseball cap and jeans outfit. She did not do the body hugging dress with no panty thingy that day, a bit disappointed. But she was cheerful and chatty. Met her at the lobby and she immediately came over and grabbed my arms and hugging me like a long lost GF. I was a bit concerned as it was a public area so I whispered to her to hold off a bit.

Went to the room, the moment the door closed, I lost no time, DFK, grabbing her boobs and pussy, stripping her, as she does me as well.

Stark naked we spent some time dry humping and DFK. I stuck my bro in between her thighs and we rocked for a while while DFKing.

She asked me to wash up a bit while she gets ready. I quickly showered and dried up, then she washed herself, then on to action.

I told her I wanted to eat her first so we spent quite a long time eating each other and licking up and down. She was getting high and was rocking her body against my face and hands.

After a while, she said, let me pleasure you, knelt down and gave a looong and slurpy BBBJ. Then we laid down and she continued her BBBJ while I hand-fuked her pussy.

Capped and we started with Rider where she squats over my bro and hump me hard, then followed by lapdance position and finally miss to end.

During the lapdance position I reached behind her to her buttocks and rubbed against her anus. She started to moan even harder and grind her pussy into my dick. However one side effect is that she was so high she leaked liquid from her vagina and anus so after a while there is a stinky smell. But she felt good.

After we came, we were both tired and sweaty. Laid down and she gave me a so-so massage. A while later she said, second round?

However I could not as I was wasted. Paid her and she left after grabbing my dick one last time and giving me a peck on the cheek.

Damage: RM300 + Rm50 tip I offered to her.

Face is 7/10.

Body is shapely with little fat but a nice curvy bum.

C-boobs.

Short petite.

Can't wait for my next trip to KL.

She does outcall to Bukit Bintang or KL city areas only.

Yesterday Beach Club was half empty. I do not remember such a dry night there! All girls were old veterans, sharks with sharp eyes looking around for a prey.
I even knew several faces already, girls who have been regular in BC for years already.

Really disappointing. It was like visiting the ruins of an ancient city, which was magnificent 1000 years ago, but now lonely and destroyed by the time passed.
I could only remember with nostalgy the same place years ago, full of fresh girls and even some on their first days trying this new way to make money.

I left well before 2 and I went checking Bond Spa. Only 4 girls and not so well looking. After those first 4, papi called 4 mixed Mongolian-Kazakh who were speaking russian among them. Not looking bad, not the CSI truck drivers who I was used to see at BC, but not my cup of tea in KL. I am here in South East Asia and I want SEAsian girls.

So, I moved to Federal Hotel. There, only 4 girls: 1 Bangla, 2 Indo from Medan, 1 Chinese. Of course I went for the Indo! I love Indo. Excellent experience, nice girl, friendly and GFE, to the extent it is possible in a spa. Price 260, plus 50 tip I gave without being requested.

I am going back to Batam in 2 days, and I will have plenty of Indo girls there, but I do not regret I chose this Indo girl here.

Too bad I will miss Viet here, but in this situation in BC it would be a waste of money for a bad experience.

Hi,

I will be in KL for 3 more days. Need some action or some good massage in bukit bintang area. Please suggest the places with price.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2314966]Yesterday Beach Club was half empty. I do not remember such a dry night there! All girls were old veterans, sharks with sharp eyes looking around for a prey.
I even knew several faces already, girls who have been regular in BC for years already.

Really disappointing. It was like visiting the ruins of an ancient city, which was magnificent 1000 years ago, but now lonely and destroyed by the time passed.[/QUOTE]Yeah, was there on Monday night as well and was shocked at the lack of girls. No girls in the outside area, no more than 50 hanging around the inside bar area, if even that many. There were some good lookers there, but most of them seemed up themselves. Had a laugh when the girl beside me at the bar asked me to move because I was cramping her style. I burst out laughing, first time I've cramped a hookers style. A friend I was with tried to catch the eye of probably the best looking girl in the place and she just kept turning away! I stayed to just about closing time and had a chat with one girl, but here starting price was 1000 MYR, had my second laugh of the night and called it quits. I guess turnign the place into a sausage fest means the girls can start at alot higher rates than the good old days. Wondering if somebody is trying to push the place out of business.

On a seperate note I started the night in Changkat BB and there was alot of ladies hanging around there. Gypsy Bar had a very healthy volume of Viet FL, most well past their use by date, but a couple weren; t too bad looking. There were some Filipinas hanging around the bar beside Loco, and then the usual mix of others hanging around places like Rockerfellas and the rest of the bars.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2315420]Yeah, was there on Monday night as well and was shocked at the lack of girls. No girls in the outside area, no more than 50 hanging around the inside bar area, if even that many. There were some good lookers there, but most of them seemed up themselves. Had a laugh when the girl beside me at the bar asked me to move because I was cramping her style. I burst out laughing, first time I've cramped a hookers style. A friend I was with tried to catch the eye of probably the best looking girl in the place and she just kept turning away! I stayed to just about closing time and had a chat with one girl, but here starting price was 1000 MYR, had my second laugh of the night and called it quits. I guess turnign the place into a sausage fest means the girls can start at alot higher rates than the good old days. Wondering if somebody is trying to push the place out of business.
On a seperate note I started the night in Changkat BB and there was alot of ladies hanging around there. Gypsy Bar had a very healthy volume of Viet FL, most well past their use by date, but a couple weren; t too bad looking. There were some Filipinas hanging around the bar beside Loco, and then the usual mix of others hanging around places like Rockerfellas and the rest of the bars.[/QUOTE]Hopefully this will be a short term issue. At least its good to know that if the girls are not at BC then they will be at Changkat. Its just the bloody taxi mafia and their ridiculous prices at that time of night you have to navigate going from one spot to the other. Not that I pay. Just walk up the road or to a near intersection to get a fairer price. Went once about 9 months ago and the place too was a sausage fest but the word was there was a raid possibly on ( still got a companion that night though). BTW are they going down to TC from BC instead?

Starting price 1000 MYR. LOL - try half it minus at least 100 more honey and then we might start talking.

NI.

I spent the Easter weekend at KL and in sync with the recent reports, found less number of ladies at the BC. I thought being the holy week, the girls must have returned home for a break but it seems things are starting to change. Lot of girls would came by to say Hello, and most were worn out. The prices quoted were 500 for ST. I did not bother asking them for LT. At around 1 am, I got hold of a good looking viet with chinese ancestry. She spoke passable English but had terrific body. She started with 500 for ST and I negotiated for 700 LT or 2 shots. We walked back to Concorde and had wonderful sessions. I asked if she would like to stay for breakfast and she agreed. One thing led to another and she ended up staying with me for 3 days. She requested to book her (her words) for second night for RM 800 and for third night (Sunday) she just stayed without any asking for money. We spent the days swimming in the pool, doing hop on hop off tours, visiting malls, batu caves, aquarium, eco forest. Hand in hand like couples. I thought I wasted the holiday by sticking with one girl (however good she was, tad bit disappointed) but per reports I think it was good decision.

Points:

1) Concorde is completely GF as known to most. We used the pool, had breakfast for all three days together, walked around the lobby / lift hand in hand. Faced no issues. BTW I am 32 and she's 27 and we could easily be mistaken for a couple except for our different nationalities. Few stares though from older men / women of Chinese descent.

2) The price at BC seems to be RM 500 for ST and RM 800 and upwards for LT. The quality is not great as mentioned.

3) Grab is cheap and easy to use. I guess you need a local sim though.

4) The LRT and mono are very convenient for rides to bukit bintang, sentral etc.

5) Hardrock cafe was full on Saturday evening around 9 30 pm when I went with my girl to dine. Probably should have been there earlier. Waited for 5 minutes and looked around at the bar, found a few Africans, mostly likely freelancers. Not great quality again.

6) The three nights costed me RM 700+ RM800+ Rm500 (she didn't ask, but I gave her) plus the food, taxi and shopping bill. She was a wonderful girl not a PSE but definitely GFE.

7) She mentioned she had to work on a Saturday night and was free on a Sunday. And again, when were in bistro next to beach club having dinner, we were looking at a Viet girl running around with couple of Caucasian. She mentioned that she was her roommate and was very unhappy with the work. I was really sad at that point and did not continue the conversation. I guess, the freelancers at the beach club are perhaps not freelancers and might have a agent or mamasan.

8) She seemed to be well travelled. During chit chat, found out she got her watch at Singapore and her gold from Dubai. That led to our discussions about BRIX, Ipanema in Singapore and marina at Dubai which were her favourite watering holes. Phew, quite a girl.

9) She stayed at SOHO suites, couple of blocks from thai club. I did visit her apartment couple of times when she wanted to change her dress but stayed back at the lobby as she was sharing the apartment. SOHO seemed good with automated access control and absolutely no questions were asked. Must be GFE I guess and its walkable from Thai and beach club. Point 7,8,9 make me believe that there might something more going on than what meets the eye with freelancers.

Quite an experience being with the same girl for three days and it felt good. Still in touch with her (she has left kl and in Saigon now, crackdown on overstaying? And I said I would love to go for next holiday to Jakarta / Manilla. She suggested lombok instead and said she loved the place whilst she was there. Phew, blew me down, quite a lady.

A year ago I wrote when I was in KL " Standard start price and conditions are 500ST, 1 pop, 1 HR, BBBJ, covered FJ, not necessary GFE but never accepted this so don't know. Girls will quickly drop to 400 for above. Just say you know the price. Have got agreement to 350 plus tip 50/100 so if you got good negotiation skills this would be my starting point. Never tried lower. ".

Just because they offer 500 doesn't mean this is how low they will go, nor does it mean you have to go much higher for LT.

I would advise mongers to play from a position of power in that, this is what I will pay you, rather than from them, this is what you must pay me. Once they think they can start dictating terms and conditions you have lost.
Conversely if you have something that is desirable to them like nationality, presentation, demeanor then use it.
NI.

Sorry if my reports are not so well structured as long time ago. This report is about my first night in KL, that is before my lasts couple reports here. I am posting without chronological order.

My first night in KL has been totally pre-arranged. An Indo friend I have from Batam is working here. She has been waiting to meet me again for a long time. I hinted that I would have been happy to take her our with her best friend, and she did not make me repeat twice.

2 hours of fun in Changkat, drinks etc. The problem is that they must be not used to drink much (YES, you know me, I am used to hang out exclusively with good girls), so they got drunk soon, too much drunk. My friend could barely stand.

So we took a taxi and we went to my hotel. WOW these two ladies are hot! When I met my friend first time she was a shy girl. I wonder what happened since then?

Now the bad part. Around 5 am I wake up and I go to bathroom, because I hear some noise. WTF! The girl left the water pipe at the side of the toilet open on the floor! The bathroom was totally flooded, and also half of the room! I woke up the ladies to ask their help. My girl could not wake up, but the other worked hard with me for half an hour to collect the water from the floor.

We could recover the damage, except that the carpet was wet. 3 days later, when I left the hotel, was still wet.

I was really pissed off, so once we finish to dry the floor they left the room because I was supposed to wake up at 8 or 9 to go to work. I gave them 300 each, which is a lot for Batam, but not enough for girls one can meet in Changkat. They did not even count and rushed away feeling guilty for the incident.

[QUOTE=Amey3017;2315416]Hi,
I will be in KL for 3 more days. Need some action or some good massage in bukit bintang area. Please suggest the places with price.[/QUOTE]Nothing more needed? The Information Counter here is presently closed, but you can address inquiries to the RTFF office, open 24/24 7/7.

On my third night, I started with Changkat. As usual, all working ladies were old, but with a lot of self-esteem (I did not bother to ask this time, but in the past I always received propositions for fees much higher than in BC, and by ladies who were much older and less sexy).

I moved to BC. More people than in the previous night, and more sexy girls, but again all old veterans, sharks. I talked with a couple of them, and their starting price was 500-600 for ONE HOUR (gosh!

No need to waste my little money for them.

Said all this, some Viets there are really sexy, although I would not expect any GFE from a girl who has been in this business for years already (the report from the great guy Nazgylg15 is a NOTABLE EXCEPTION. Kudos for him!

I decided to go to Genesis Spa, assessing that for 300 there I could have more fun and maybe even better GFE than from a girl in BC for 600.

Now, see the Destiny how unpredictable it could be?

Passing by Thai Club, I spot a pretty sweet Viet girl smiling to me from inside. She's alone. She looks shy. She looks lost. I take 10 seconds to feel that MAYBE she is not a shark veteran like all others. It's worth to check. Did I find the last gem in the exhausted mine of Jl. P. Ramlee? I walk back to my steps and I enter TC. I find her sitting there alone, looking around.

Best hit of good luck of the year. She is new, she looks 20 (but later I discover she's 30+), she is new to KL. She has been in TC for 1 week, and I am her second customer who takes her to hotel (how can I be sure about this? I spent hours with her in my bed).

She looks like a fish out of water. Zero English, but Google Translate is our best friend in these cases. She is genuinely happy to be with someone who cares about her.

Unfortunately, her friends come to us and tell her to request me 1000 for overnight, or 600 for one hour. I tell her that she the only girl I could take with me, but I cannot spend more than 400.

To cut long story short, she accepts, but at the end I gave her 500 in the morning.
Based on the current situation in KL, having a real Viet girlfriend who sleeps all night with me holding me tight is not a common opportunity. I won a lottery.
No skills, but who cares? If I want a performer, I must go to a spa, or take a robot with 3 years experience in KL.

I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.

She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.

I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.

Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2316730]I am in Batam now.
My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.
She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.
I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. Surprised? I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.
Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.[/QUOTE]No words can describe my disgust and contempt for individuals that treat WG as this person did. I do not confess to be the champion or protector of these ladies. It is easy to see why WG prefer certain nationalities as opposed to others and yes I am not that discriminatory to believe that the perp could be of any nationality. I am a strong believer in karma and I am sure, as BP suggests, he will get his just deserts one day soon.

Many posters report on the tactics and trickery of WG and although every so often yes I get scammed I am firmly of the opinion that a MO of respect and courtesy brings you greater rewards and a more genuine experience from the girls.

NI.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2316730]I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.[/QUOTE]Pisses me off when this shit happens, having personal experience of what these girls go thru with the local authorities, they certainly don; t need it from arseholes like this. I have stepped in between a girl and sub-continetal guys a couple of times. Once in Hong Kong, the other in BATS in Jakarta. Had one guy get very shirty at me, but a: I can handle my self (thank you to the military and the back streets of Belfast for that), and be: I was very regular in BATS at the time, knew the bouncers very well, and very quickly one of them was standing beside me asking if I was having any troubles, with a broad smile on his face. Bit of a sucker for a damsel in distress, and it does get you a lot of kudos.

[QUOTE=Franga;2314550]Here is the photo. It says refleksologi and aromaterapi above the name "Hokkaido", so it doesn't look like a restaurant to me.[/QUOTE]You're right. It's definitely not a restaurant.

Before I went there I googled 'Hokkaido kuala lumpur' and the directions to 'Hokkaido Seafood Restaurant' came up. Then I remembered it used to be called 'sky river', so searched for that instead.

The "Hokkaido" sign is to the left of the entrance isn't it? And the entrance has two lamps on either side of the door? Didn't seem like there was anyone inside. Pressed the bell, there was no answer.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2314194]Definitely not open. I went there on Thursday about 10 pm. It has two yellow lamps on each side of front door. Hokkaido, is next to it. (I think that's a restaurant).
I asked the guy at the Chinese restaurant in the corner of the street (the guy outside with a desk). He said, sky river is the one with the two yellow lamps. Seems he's right, because on google maps skyriver is still there and the picture has two yellow lamps.

Went there pressed the bell a few times, no answer.

Actually, I first visited Green Elephant (near low yat plaza) in Bukit Bintang. Asked papasan the score. Seemed okay (about 200 RM for Vietnamese, Indonesian, Thai. 300 RM for chinese with B2B). However, when I asked if I could see a room, he said they are all booked..[/QUOTE]I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.

Exactly half an hour later, we got back to the spa, we noticed all the lights on the building were off. Puzzled, and thinking only of our dicks, we went ahead inside anyway since there was still some people at the front desk at the KTV. Buzzed the door to the spa, a different Chinese gentleman, also with his hp hands free ear piece on his right ear, opened the door for us and told us they were closed!

We were shocked and very disappointed. 1st they tell us to come back and then they tell us that they were closed. So we thought last resort go check out the WG at the end of the road. To our dismay, they were gone too!

By that time it was already 2.30 am, thought of calling a pimp as advertised on the Internet but not to sure if it was safe. So we called it a night since it was a long day working anyway.

What a shitty start to the weekend to go back with a limp dick.

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:

1. Status in Beach Club? Still a possible crackdown with fewer girls? More girls in the lower "cafe" part instead of the more "bar" part? Still acceptable of 400 for ST?

2. Any updates on Thai Club as to type of girls and prices? Also, TC and BC walking distance to avoid taxi mafia?

3. Any updates on Zion, Gypsy, others?

4. A long time ago, in RTFF I saw detailed directions to the "ACE complex" where if I recall, there is some sort of food court with girls available for pickup. Although, not really my scene, I am curious about this and depending on how much time I have to kill after I get into KL, I may consider going. Anybody have any updates on this scene and how best to get to this location and distance by taxi from the BC or TC area where I most likely will be staying?

I prefer freelancers in bars, clubs, discos and not into spas, massages, or ordering incall.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Rsmith75;2317278]I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.[/QUOTE]I experienced the same as you. Reckon I should post my experience so other posters don't think yours is a one off. First time I went there on Wednesday 03 April at about 9:30 pm, Papasan (the shorter chinese guy) said they had no girls. Funny thing was I had called earlier and the receptionist didn't warn me. So, next day I phoned and asked specifically, if there were girls. Yes, was the answer. Headed there about 9:30 pm. There were hardly any customers (I reckon the previous day they may have had an entourage of Chinese clientele). I was the only customer using hot tub (they have four) and the steam room.

After steam room, led in to room where the girls were called. From a choice of 4 girls (Indo, Thai, 2 x Viet), I chose a Viet girl. After choosing, the girl leads you by hand to room, where she showers and washes me, especially downstairs. Back in the room, I asked for a little massage. Even though she doesn't do massage (other girls also don't) she agrees. Afterwards, she gave CB, leading to BBBJ, which was amazing. Then we had FJ in 3 positions. After the deed, went back to resting area. They offer you drinks and food. After a bit of a rest, asked papasan for 2nd round. He said there is a 5 or 10% discount (I don't remember exactly but second round came to about 210 RM).

Lineup time, there were about 10 girls. I picked a different Vietnamese. She didn't even know I picked her and tried to walk away with the other girls. So I told papasan (who sits there with you while you do the picking). May be each girl should wear a number (like in some of the Thai places huh? Anyway, just as the girl and I entered the room, I figured she is going to be a dud (I asked her something in Vietnamese and she did not understand. The previous girl understood me). So I come out and speak to papasan (the tall Chinese guy who was dealing with me today) to change girls. Rather than going through the line-up I ask for the same girl as 1st round.

We go in same room again, she washes me. We chat for a bit, then she starts with CB, BBBJ, FJ, again different positions. We go at it for 15-20 minutes. She had a large tattoo on her back. Quite a sight from behind. After deed, we chat again and part ways. It was about 2 am by then. Came home a happy bunny. BTW, Like you I noticed F-lancer WG on side street near spa when coming home on taxi. Taxi driver slowed right down near WG. Don't know if he has some arrangement with them or just curious himself. Anyway, didn't bother stopping for shott, but made mental note.

2nd visit Thursday 25 April. First Visited green elephant then Hokkaido (formerly Sky River), both no go. By the time I got to Fuji it was about 11 pm. After being escorted to the resting area (where they serve food / drink) by shorter of the two papasans, we start talking. I ask to use hot tub. Was told no hottub, due to water cut during that W / end in KL. Just so happens that the area Fuji is located is affected. I ask if if they have water for shower in room, he says 'yes'. I believe him. At lineup there are only three girls. Two Vietnamese, 1 x Indo. I pick the chubbier of the viet girl, because she has pretty face.

In the room, it turns out there is no shower. Instead there is a water bucket filled with water. She pours water on my nipples and Johny. Washed with water cup. It was huge turn off, as the water was cold and it didn't do anything to get me in the mood.

Anyway, back in the room, she gives me CB, BBBJ (which was good), then gets on top and rides. One thing I notice at this point is the girl from 1st time (Ruby) and this girl (also called Ruby. Many Viet girls choose this name I reckon. Translating Vietnamese name to English it becomes Ruby. Vietnamese name very hard to pronounce) both followed the same process. Wash, CB, BBBJ, FJ. Also, if you don't take the lead after BBBJ and go for the FJ position you want, she will invariable get on top of you. So, it seems all the girls are trained with this process. In a way it's good because you won't end up with a girl who is looking to just do deed and skip CB, BBBJ. But then you may find the whole experience a bit repetitive if you go there second time (for second shot of first time. I didn't really mind it being repetitive).

Anyway, she rode me for about 5 minutes then I shot load. I think result of having to hunt around for place, and going without any action (even self-HJ) for about 4-5 days. Also I've found this has happened to me with the slightly chubbier WG's, especially if they have very smooth skin.

Anyway, shot unloaded. I was reasonably happy.

Headed to waiting area. Rested for a while. Maybe 1 HR. Asked Papasan for second shot. This time line-up had about 15 girls. I picked a Viet with hot figure because she smiled at me. Led me to room. By now, there was hot water in the shower. She washed me. Then back to room for CB, then she started tugging at Johny. This is where it went downhill. Johyn was not sailing today. She was tugging at it. Up to now all the girls had gone from CB to BBBJ and everything went fine. After some self-HJ and fingering her, Johny did go full mast. We did missionary for a bit, but soon Mr. X was not playing ball.

She tried to finish off with HJ. But her technique was not good. I tried to finish off with own hand. By then all system were down. She said in all of her 4 years its never happened. If it's true it was really a shame, because she did have a smoking hot figure. Anyway, this has only happened to me once in Vietnam (spa called Sammys in Vung Tau) with similar smoking hot girl. That girl also did bad HJ, which put me off. At least now I know what may be causing it. (Bad HJ).

Left somewhat disappointed, but somewhat happy that there was liftoff on one shot.

All in all, I think, you might have a really good session here, if you pick right girl. I've seen some customers speaking to WG in resting area. Not sure how that works. DO you make selection, then return to resting area, then ask girl to come there where you talk to her?. May be you can ask papasan how this works.

Also, when you enter, ask reception if you need a card with number. First time I went there it was never an issue. Second time, after picking girl at lineup, both papasans asked me for this card with number, which I never received. Caused a bit of confusion but wasn't a show stopper. Apologies if the report is a bit all over the place. But rather get word out.

What you doing going to in kl is, find same girls Thai, Cambodian, Indon, abd chinese here in kl.

Unless you want to taste local with high premier.

Almost 90% of girls are import. So if you in Thailand, you better off getting better bang for your bucks.

[QUOTE=Bijou;2317510]Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:.[/QUOTE]

What you doing going to in kl is, find same girls Thai, Cambodian, Indon, abd Chinese here in kl.

Unless you want to taste local with high premier.

Almost 90% of girls are import. So if you in Thailand, you better off getting better bang for your bucks.

[QUOTE=Bijou;2317510]Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bijou;2317510]Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:


I prefer freelancers in bars, clubs, discos and not into spas, massages, or ordering incall.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]So I was there last week and out in Changkat and BC last Tuesday:

Beach Club was dead when I was in there, and according to a few friends who live there it has been dead for a while. One said there was a big fight after Vietnam beat Malaysia in the Asia Cup. No idea how true this is. May be a crack down, or somebody is trying to put it out of business. Nobody in bottom bar, all inside. Some nice lookers, but lack of girls compared to volume of men meant they were asking for silly money.

Changkat is probably a good place to start and you could always transition down to the BC if you don; t find anything you like. More flavour there. Gypsy and surrounding bars had lots of Viet. There were a number of Africans walking around the street, not as many as later in the week, but still some. A few filipina's sittign in the bar beside Loco. All girls had a few years on them.

I'm actually now totally off KL, but unfortunately have to go there on business. Not a big fan of Viet, no interest in Afircan, and the lack of filipnas bascially cuts my options.

One other thing that was really strange. Normally my WeChat account is pinging with friend requests. I had 4 requests for a whole week in town!

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2317668]So I was there last week and out in Changkat and BC last Tuesday:
Beach Club was dead when I was in there, and according to a few friends who live there it has been dead for a while. One said there was a big fight after Vietnam beat Malaysia in the Asia Cup. No idea how true this is. May be a crack down, or somebody is trying to put it out of business. Nobody in bottom bar, all inside. Some nice lookers, but lack of girls compared to volume of men meant they were asking for silly money.
Changkat is probably a good place to start and you could always transition down to the BC if you don; t find anything you like. More flavour there. Gypsy and surrounding bars had lots of Viet. There were a number of Africans walking around the street, not as many as later in the week, but still some. A few filipina's sittign in the bar beside Loco. All girls had a few years on them.
I'm actually now totally off KL, but unfortunately have to go there on business. Not a big fan of Viet, no interest in Afircan, and the lack of filipnas bascially cuts my options.
One other thing that was really strange. Normally my WeChat account is pinging with friend requests. I had 4 requests for a whole week in town![/QUOTE]Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2317853] Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change![/QUOTE]Not really, at least based on what I have seen. The Viet in Changkat are mostly older ladies, and very few. No trace of the dolls you are used to see in BC or TC.

I went to Changkat only two times this week, but I did not notice any significantly higher presence of Viets compared to before. Maybe I went on different days compared to I'm.

What I really notice in Changkat, which is very different from the past, is the total lack of Filipinas. What a pity!

[QUOTE=NewImage;2317853]Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.[/QUOTE]For Viets still plenty and some lookers at ACE and also at Sap Chuen. Not as pricey and not all are hot chicks, but some gems. RM80 for quickie at their nearby room. Some negotiable for overnight. To be clear this is not the usual nice bar with pickup. Its a traditional (messy some says) food court, with a lot of PRC and Viet FLs plying their trade. You go there, get a table with a cup of tea, eye the goods, make eye contact, nego the price, and go up to their room.

In room it is strip, CBJ or BBJ depending on the FL, do the deed, washup and leave. If you regularly go with a gem you found, she may be more open and provide more GFE after a while. As with all tings, need investment to get value.

Otherwise if you like Viet I have a solid MILF with hourglass figure and see-boobs willing to do outcall that I have cultivated over the years. She only does KL city area, and does not do overnight though but will stay for an hour or two, multiple shots. Good GFE for me, really hardworking FL spending time to give a proper BBBJ and FJ. She has a good body but not that pretty. Look at my past FR. I am not her pimp, just sharing for others benefit. I like her and I believe that if she has good business in KL, she will be here for a while and not leave.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2317853]Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.[/QUOTE]Was quoted 1000 MYR and that was late at night. Burst out laughing and didn't even bother countering, finished up and went home. Was lurking more than lookign anyway. If she had quoted somethign close to normal. In the 5-600 range I might have countered and taken her home. Sayign that I had a lot of drink in me and even chemical enhancement would have been taxed to get me going.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2317872]Not really, at least based on what I have seen. The Viet in Changkat are mostly older ladies, and very few. No trace of the dolls you are used to see in BC or TC.

I went to Changkat only two times this week, but I did not notice any significantly higher presence of Viets compared to before. Maybe I went on different days compared to I'm.

What I really notice in Changkat, which is very dffferent from the past, is the total lack of Filipinas. What a pity![/QUOTE]Wasn't quoting the volume of girls against anything really. Been a while since I've been to KL. Agree that the girls are mostly in the older range on Changkat. There were a few younger girls in the back bar in Gypsy. Alot of the African girls walking around on Thursday were "young" in age, and there was a big African dude (pimp) walking around checking on the wherabouts of his girls. The place is defintely different from my last visit mid last year, and is worrisome. First the Filipinas dissappeared from BC, now the numbers are way down, next the For Sale sign will be on the front door. It's not as if there is a squeeze for prime land to build more high rises, the site of the old BC is still empty.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2318040] the site of the old BC is still empty.[/QUOTE]I have such fond memories of that place, as you do too!

I remember that I was used to get out with the girl from the back door, in spite of the attempts of staff to stop me, to reach the back street through the parking lot and avoid the taxi gangs waiting like wild beasts at the front door.

I have never been to KL but will have 5 day business trip in about September. I want to enjoy those 5 days and would love to know the names of.

The massage parlors that you recommend. I guess what I am asking is where would go in those 5 days. Will probably stay at Shangri-La so will go down to BC and Thai Club and.

Then check out the Hard Rock Café and it that fails, then go to Changkat. Any ideas will be appreciated.

I have not been on any such trips since the years I went to Changping.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2317853]Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.[/QUOTE]I checked out Gypsy bar for the past two weekends. All I saw was some old Viets and other SEA chicks. None of the Beach Club girls that I know was in Gypsy. Briefly entered Zion and came out. Zion is too smokey. Zion is one of the places where Beach club girls used to visit after it closes.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2319407]I checked out Gypsy bar for the past two weekends. All I saw was some old Viets and other SEA chicks. None of the Beach Club girls that I know was in Gypsy. Briefly entered Zion and came out. Zion is too smokey. Zion is one of the places where Beach club girls used to visit after it closes.[/QUOTE]Did you try Sahar Layali club near Changkat? It is close to JW Marriott. I have picked up some top shelf Moroccan, Moldavian and Viets from there last year.

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2319667]Did you try Sahar Layali club near Changkat? It is close to JW Marriott. I have picked up some top shelf Moroccan, Moldavian and Viets from there last year.[/QUOTE]For top shelf was it a top shelf price?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2319667]Did you try Sahar Layali club near Changkat? It is close to JW Marriott. I have picked up some top shelf Moroccan, Moldavian and Viets from there last year.[/QUOTE]Never been there. Will try one of those days and report back. By the way, was in Changkat last night Chilling out at Loco bar with friends. We had the table by the platform. Watched some freelancers walking up and down. Below average quality barring very few exceptions.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2319794]For top shelf was it a top shelf price?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Price was around 1000 MYR for all night. But the night started pretty late, as the girls start rolling in after 1 AM.

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2320075]Price was around 1000 MYR for all night. But the night started pretty late, as the girls start rolling in after 1 AM.[/QUOTE]As expected. I also wonder what "top shelf" means. I will keep to stay away from Arab Street.

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2320075]Price was around 1000 MYR for all night. But the night started pretty late, as the girls start rolling in after 1 AM.[/QUOTE]1000 MYR = 240 US. GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome).

One would also ask where were they before 1 am?

NI.
PS Top shelf means to me 9/10 rating, BP.
Would be interested to have a drink with you one day.

I would probably steer away from that top shelf as well. I'm more of a mid to a lower shelf (not lowest anymore) type of monger unless I manages to hit actual jackpot.

Once a Pinay quoted me similar amount for LT. I literally asked her if her pussy was made out of gold, because my dick ain't made out of platinum to penetrate 24 ct golden pussy.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2320192]1000 MYR = 240 US. GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome).

One would also ask where were they before 1 am?

NI.
PS Top shelf means to me 9/10 rating, BP.
Would be interested to have a drink with you one day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IndieFriend;2320075]Price was around 1000 MYR for all night. But the night started pretty late, as the girls start rolling in after 1 AM.[/QUOTE]1000 MYR, same price I was quoted in BC two weeks ago. Yep, as NI quaintly put it, Golden Pussy Syndrome is alive and going string in KL. I'll be importing my own on my next trip in a couple of weeks for a fraction of the cost and a hell of alot more fun Sod variety when the overall experience is what I'm after.

I was in KL for 5 nights on my last trip and didn't pick up one girl. Considering I would normally P4 P every night I travel in Asia if the price / looks ticked all my boxes, I think things have gone way down hill. EIther that or I am getting very picky.

Anunody got access to a time machine, need to go back a few years.

Hiya!

First time in KL. RTFF and all that but couldn't find anything useful about mongering around Brickfields area. Here for work and they put me there. I saw some blind massage places but I don't think I'the be into that. Will post any successful reviews if you have suggestions? Thanks!

FWIW, I feel horrible pressing "post a review" when this isn't a review. Sorry I'm advance.

Back in KL after a few years mongering in Thailand, it was good to be back, I love KL!

As an experienced monger, I should know that when you're fresh from out the plane and have been looking to shag for a while, you should't drink too much and use your senses.

But my first night was an epic one: I was so happy to be in KL and to start my holidays that I had a bit too many drinks in Bukit Bintang doing a pub crawl by myself!

It was Saturday night, so plenty of people around. As I was pretty drunk, I saw that sexy girl in one of the bars, and started to chat her up. She started rubbing my dick, so I told her " 300ST " and she' was happy with that, so we went to my hotel that was 2 minutes away from BB.

Once out of the bar, and in the lights of my hotel, she didn't really look like a real girl, but more like a ladyboy, so once in the room, I asked to see her pussy.

I pulled her pants down and. Uh. Oh. She had a dick!

I told her (well him!) to get the f. Out of my room, but she refused saying that I saw her dick and I should pay!

I then called security, the guy came up and did his best not to laugh, and after arguing a bit more, she left with security.

Some would be annoyed, embarrassed or shocked at the situation, but I thought it was funny, and it made me laugh actually!

Since it was late, but not too late, I went out again, on my way out I told security with a smile "going to get another ladyboy! " the guy laughed and every time we met the next days we joked about it.

So I went to another bar, it was almost 4 am, so not many people left, but I came across a nice looking lady (I was drunk, so everyone looked nice), I asked if she was a real girl and she laughed at the question.

She was a MILF viet and was okay to go for 300. As soon as we left the bar, I noticed that she was even drunker than me!

She wanted to grab some stuff at the KK so we went in, bought milk and yogurt.

As soon as we left the KK, I said "OK let's go home " and she turned weird saying that she's afraid of police, then said something else, turned around and left!

So I went home with a bag of milk and yogurt and spent my first night alone!

Next day I won't waste my time in BB and go to BC instead.

BB is fun if you're with friends and want to have a party, but for mongering it's a waste of time. Too many fat Africans, old viets and ladyboys.

I visited KL in 2018. While I didn't partake, I did want to see the circus -- so I read the thread (going back a couple of years), and I did visit both BC and TC. Now, I read that the number of ladies hanging out at both clubs is "down".

Is this all due to the crackdown on "illegal foreign workers" which started Aug / Sep 2018? From what I read, this crackdown was directed at undocumented workers from Indonesian, Nepal and Bangladesh working on plantations, in factories and on construction sites.

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2320555]Hiya!

First time in KL. RTFF and all that but couldn't find anything useful about mongering around Brickfields area. Here for work and they put me there. I saw some blind massage places but I don't think I'the be into that. Will post any successful reviews if you have suggestions? Thanks!

FWIW, I feel horrible pressing "post a review" when this isn't a review. Sorry I'm advance.[/QUOTE]Brickfields is cleaned up and not a mongering destination anymore. At best you can find some cheap hookers on wechat. If you are so bent up on finding only around Brickfields, try Zeta bar at Hilton.

[QUOTE=GoodShag;2320572]I told her (well him!) to get the f. Out of my room, but she refused saying that I saw her dick and I should pay!
I then called security, the guy came up and did his best not to laugh, and after arguing a bit more, she left with security..[/QUOTE]To be fair, I think you should have paid her something, say for the taxi to go home. It is hard to believe someone could take a ladybody to the room, without realizing he's a he and not a SHE. Although you were drunk, and you were in good faith, she / he had some arguments to complain for your behaviour, because she / he wasted time time to follow you (and maybe some other guest instead of you).
At least 50 rm.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2320682]Brickfields is cleaned up and not a mongering destination anymore.[/QUOTE]Was it EVER? A place with old, not even young, ugly women in dirty rooms, catering to poor immigrant workers such as Bangla. I may understand the pleasure to dig in dirty places hoping to find a young gem, but that place was never a place for such opportunities. Only sad poor people.
(I explored it thoroughly on my first years in KL, say 8-10 years ago, when I also insisted to explore Chow Kit for the same sake of exploring the unexplored)

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2320682]Brickfields is cleaned up and not a mongering destination anymore. At best you can find some cheap hookers on wechat. If you are so bent up on finding only around Brickfields, try Zeta bar at Hilton.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I'm not exactly bent up on mongering in this location--was just looking to squeeze something in after work if possible. It looked pretty dead according to the forum, so I'll just wait until later this week to check out the scene in the more traditional parts of town.

On my second day, I went strait to BC.

I miss the old one, it was a great place to party, the new one is a bit so so, but I still enjoy going there.

I got there early to avoid the entrance fee, not many girls around at that time but still a few good looking ones, mostly Viets.

I came across a nice looking young one with a big smile and we chatted a bit, then offered to go home.

RM500,2 shots and a massage, I thought it was fair, so off we go.

The session was good, and she made a great deal of effort to try to make me come the second time (not easy to do back to back for me), so I was happy with that, and then I crashed on my bed.

On my third day I did exactly the same, went there early, but no girls around! I waited waited. A few here and there but I could almost count them on my hands. It was the quietest night I ever experienced in BC.

One girl confirmed that the government is cracking down on corrupt police who take cash from the bar owner to turn a blind eye. And there's been more raids since and it's more difficult for them to work in Malaysia.

I went home alone that night, even bartenders looked bored.

The next day, the place was pumping again!

I quickly came across a good looking Viets and we clicked.

Good conversation led to the same deal as the other night: RM500 for 2 shots and a massage.

She was pretty quiet and was afraid of another starfish experience, but as soon as we got to my room, she turned out to be a tiger!

She almost ripped off my clothes, pushed me on the sofa and started to suck me hard, even rimming my ass.

We then showered and made it to bed. Everything went and she really seemed to enjoy it.

After the first shot, we relaxed, talked, and then did it again.

As I had trouble coming the second time, she started to suck me hard and put a finger up my arse until I came!

Great session and great girl!

So instead of wasting my time trying to find another girl, I asked her to be my girl the next 2 nights and she was happy to meet me again.

The next 2 nights were more of the same, she was a good fuck and I'm happy to say that it's still possible to find that in BC.

Big up to the Viets, I think they are great girls and easier to talk to than Thais, their English is better.

Hopefully the mongering scene in KL will improve in the future as it is a great city!

[QUOTE=Qeast;2320573]I visited KL in 2018. While I didn't partake, I did want to see the circus -- so I read the thread (going back a couple of years), and I did visit both BC and TC. Now, I read that the number of ladies hanging out at both clubs is "down".

Is this all due to the crackdown on "illegal foreign workers" which started Aug / Sep 2018? From what I read, this crackdown was directed at undocumented workers from Indonesian, Nepal and Bangladesh working on plantations, in factories and on construction sites.

Thanks in advance for the feedback.[/QUOTE]No idea what has caused it. A friend told me that there was a big fight in and around the club after Vietnam beat Malaysia in the Suzuki Cup, and ever since then the numbers have been down. No idea how much truth there is in this. The Suzuki Cup Final was last December. Have the numbers been down since then? I don't know, maybe a look at posts over the past few months might reveal something. I do know it was very quiet compared to my previous visits last year when I visited two weeks ago, and other people have recently experienced the same.

[QUOTE=GoodShag;2320917]On my second day, I went strait to BC.
I miss the old one, it was a great place to party, the new one is a bit so so, but I still enjoy going there.
I got there early to avoid the entrance fee, not many girls around at that time but still a few good looking ones, mostly Viets.
I came across a nice looking young one with a big smile and we chatted a bit, then offered to go home.
RM500,2 shots and a massage, I thought it was fair, so off we go.
The session was good, and she made a great deal of effort to try to make me come the second time (not easy to do back to back for me), so I was happy with that, and then I crashed on my bed.
On my third day I did exactly the same, went there early, but no girls around! I waited waited. A few here and there but I could almost count them on my hands. It was the quietest night I ever experienced in BC.
One girl confirmed that the government is cracking down on corrupt police who take cash from the bar owner to turn a blind eye. And there's been more raids since and it's more difficult for them to work in Malaysia.
I went home alone that night, even bartenders looked bored.[/QUOTE]Music to my ears. Yes you will notice some nights the word gets out and the girls stay away for fear of raids.

For this I go Wechat or another social app.

Appreciate the reports. Keep them coming (although may I suggest you negotiate down just a little. When they say 500 don't just accept say 400 maybe. Bit I appreciate its your money and your right to accept).

My starting point is 350 plus 50/100 tip for service. Usually this means 400 - and it doesn't affect service quality.

NI.

GyCalled my regular Viet and asked her to come over to my hotel in Bukit Bintang.

She just completed her gym exercise so she came over in her gym gear, the tank top and leggings.

Told her I want to do her with her gym gear as many times I fantasize about doing a gym girl.

She obliged, so we hugged, frenched and I slowly stripped her of her outer layers leaving the tank top and the leggings.

I pulled down the leggings and pulled up her gym top, and started to suck her breast while fingering her.

She started to moan and pushed my hands down harder on her pussy.

I used two fingers to insert and vigorously jammed by right hand into her pussy while sucking her tits.

She started to convulse and pressed my head harder against her tits.

My hand felt like it was going to drop off when she finally gave a huge shudder and screamed in ecstasy.

I kept on rubbing and asked her second time? She said no, or else she will feel very sleepy.

She gave me a long BBJ, we capped, I rode her and unloaded.

After that we cuddled and she gave me a balls massage.

All in a nice experience for me.

Damage was RM300 for an hour outcall to my hotel in BB.

If you want her contact, I have listed her wechat some FRs ago on this forum.

Hey bro,

Got my attention with your interesting reviews of Ling. Unless otherwise it's super coded. Don't see any WeChat name.

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2321592]GyCalled my regular Viet and asked her to come over to my hotel in Bukit Bintang.

She just completed her gym exercise so she came over in her gym gear, the tank top and leggings.

Told her I want to do her with her gym gear as many times I fantasize about doing a gym girl.

She obliged, so we hugged, frenched and I slowly stripped her of her outer layers leaving the tank top and the leggings.

I pulled down the leggings and pulled up her gym top, and started to suck her breast while fingering her.

She started to moan and pushed my hands down harder on her pussy..[/QUOTE]

First time in KL so this is a first time as well.

Arrived at Fuji around 11:30 pm on a Wednesday night, door opened up immediately, and sat down in the lounge for a literal minute before they assembled the line-up.

I asked papasan how many were working and he said, "lots. " By lots, he meant like basically 20! They stretched from door to door in a curved row. Suffice to say, I had an overabundance of choice but I went with a petite Indonesian.

Did the logistics (RM288), went into the room, then showered. She started off with BBBJ but I wasn't feeling it--it was way too mechanical and felt rushed. I've mongered elsewhere that had similar incall situations and even then, under similar time restrictions, I've had a lot of experiences where I didn't feel the pressure. Long story short, I couldn't get it up (meh). She made the situation worse by basically yelling at me to hurry and stand at full mast. I dunno about you but that doesn't do anything to help me. After a few minutes, I was able to do the deed in multiple positions and then finished. She had the nerve to ask for a tip, which I didn't give. I know I had my own issue, but I'm paying for her company so I expected more charm and less demand.

We showered, she cleaned up the room (at least she took the top layer of the bedsheet), and then I left the place.

She was cute but her attitude spoiled my mood. I would've rather had someone who just laid there in silence. The venue is not-horrible, which seems about right for this type of establishment based on me reading other reviews. WIR? For the venue, sure, but not with the same person.

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2321931]First time in KL so this is a first time as well.
Arrived at Fuji around 11:30 pm on a Wednesday night, door opened up immediately, and sat down in the lounge for a literal minute before they assembled the line-up.
I asked papasan how many were working and he said, "lots. " By lots, he meant like basically 20! They stretched from door to door in a curved row. Suffice to say, I had an overabundance of choice but I went with a petite Indonesian.
Did the logistics (RM288), went into the room, then showered. She started off with BBBJ but I wasn't feeling it--it was way too mechanical and felt rushed. I've mongered elsewhere that had similar incall situations and even then, under similar time restrictions, I've had a lot of experiences where I didn't feel the pressure. Long story short, I couldn't get it up (meh). She made the situation worse by basically yelling at me to hurry and stand at full mast. I dunno about you but that doesn't do anything to help me. After a few minutes, I was able to do the deed in multiple positions and then finished. She had the nerve to ask for a tip, which I didn't give. I know I had my own issue, but I'm paying for her company so I expected more charm and less demand.
We showered, she cleaned up the room (at least she took the top layer of the bedsheet), and then I left the place.
She was cute but her attitude spoiled my mood. I would've rather had someone who just laid there in silence. The venue is not-horrible, which seems about right for this type of establishment based on me reading other reviews. WIR? For the venue, sure, but not with the same person.[/QUOTE]Depends on who you get and also the relationship you can build up with the girl BUT spas in KL are for a quick f**k and go. If you want any sort of intimacy, repartee or quality service spend a little more and get a FL to your hotel room if possible.

That being said had one girl at SkyRiver who after my first visit wanted to have my baby. Think she must have thought I was going to rescue her from her predicament. Too much of a lottery with chances of a good session very low imo.

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2322002]Depends on who you get and also the relationship you can build up with the girl BUT spas in KL are for a quick f**k and go. If you want any sort of intimacy, repartee or quality service spend a little more and get a FL to your hotel room if possible.

That being said had one girl at SkyRiver who after my first visit wanted to have my baby. Think she must have thought I was going to rescue her from her predicament. Too much of a lottery with chances of a good session very low imo.

NI.[/QUOTE]I suppose I get what I pay for, LOL. My expectations of a spa experience were low, but not quite that low. The most enlightening thing about this was I realized that, yes, I do like a GFE to some degree. Based on some of the reviews, paying "more" is basically not that much extra for the level of service.

I was staying in the Brickfields area earlier but now going to be in BB. Hoping for a better experience with an FL (extra hope for LT vs ST).

Yes and No! Reason why I say and always found to be, It's a Hit-and-Miss. Like NI said, he had built up a good relationship with girl and almost became a Daddy LMAO. Would it be different if you went to SkyRiver, Bond / Saboon Spa! Maybe a bit better experience compared to Fuji but price is almost similar compared to what you had paid.

I had an amazing experience once at Deluxe Spa with a PRC. 3 hours later, I went back and tried a different PRC and guess what, she was amazing till I said yes to her B2B massage offer which I had to pay her separate RM50 which wasn't a biggie but once that mediocre massage ended, it felt like a darkness had possessed her mood and she started rushing things at a Tornado speed LOL.

I'm yet to find a Spa where they provide decent GFE unless otherwise heavy tipping option offered at the beginning.

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2322037]I suppose I get what I pay for, LOL. My expectations of a spa experience were low, but not quite that low. The most enlightening thing about this was I realized that, yes, I do like a GFE to some degree. Based on some of the reviews, paying "more" is basically not that much extra for the level of service.

I was staying in the Brickfields area earlier but now going to be in BB. Hoping for a better experience with an FL (extra hope for LT vs ST).[/QUOTE]

Hi fellow mongers,

I'm on a short visit and need some action at a budget price. I'm in chow kit. Appreciate your assistance for a fellow monger.

[QUOTE=WitchMaster;2322275]Hi fellow mongers,
I'm on a short visit and need some action at a budget price. I'm in chow kit. Appreciate your assistance for a fellow monger.[/QUOTE]Take a stroll on Lorong Haji Taib and a few others. They'll be cheap. LOL.

Depends what you want. As the forum says around 300 gets you spa, 400/500 gets you FL, what is cheap and what do you want- read last two posts re spas and what you get for $$.

Could always try social websites. Wechat etc or Malaysian Cupid.

There you go enough pointers, now over to you.

NI.

Tl; dr. I [URL]usedmassageklgirl.com[/URL], paid RM500 for two shots or three hours. They were quick with communication and attentive to some of my requests, but they did a bait and switch on me and may have tried to shorten my services on top of that. The sex itself was good because I got the GFE I was looking for from this type of service, vs. Something like a spa experience. Summary at the bottom of the post, editorial between.

First time in KL so I'm trying everything out. I walked Changkit last night (Thursday) around 11 pm. Like many previously mentioned: a lot of 30's-looking Africans milling about, a few ladies of the night at the tables closest to the street, and shit-tons of tourists. I didn't feel like working for action last night (there's a reason working the bar scene yields better and more consistent results) so ended up back at my hotel and used [URL]massageklgirl.com[/URL] to book Prada.

I did it via WhatsApp and that was a really easy and quick experience. The team responded within 5 minutes of my inquiry and confirmed the logistics of time, place, length, etc. I was going to pay RM500 for 2 shots or 3 hours, whichever came first.

I got a text saying she was downstairs so much like many other reviewers before, I went downstairs to pay the driver the fee. This wasn't awkward for me as I wasn't directly in front of the entrance, but some of you may feel differently so YMMV. I saw 3 other girls in the car, the driver asked who was staying with me and when I said her name, she got out of the car. What I should've done at that moment was question the driver because the gal who stepped out certainly didn't look close to the one I saw on their site. I didn't though, because I'm socially awkward (Hey this is why I do this, riiight? And figured I'll make lemons out of lemonade.

"Prada" (the one who showed up) was a lot thicker than the one on the website, with much bigger see- or nearly the- sized boobs vs the be-cups in her photos. We came up to my room, she showered, then came out and we got going. DFK, HJ, to BBBJ. None of this felt mechanical or forced, and she gave me a wonderful GFE. I cycled between these for a while before moving to her on top, missionary, doggy, and me going in missionary. She acted like she enjoyed it and was very engaged (I don't care if it's an act or real as long as the effort is there). We rested for a bit then she asked if she could shower. I thought it was weird to ask a thing but maybe she's just OCD? She comes out a few minutes later fully dressed and I'm like, okay--does she want to play the take-off-my-clothes game again?

I was sitting on the edge of my bed using my phone so she came behind me and started giving me a shoulder massage. She had strong hands and it actually was pretty good! Enough time had passed for me to be ready for round two so I made the move to undress her, at which point she said her ride is coming back. I was like, uh. I paid for 2 shots or 3 hours and neither has happened yet. I texted the phone number and FWIW the confusion was cleared up pretty quickly (I wasn't in the mood to call out the be&S just yet). After they confirmed the details with Prada, we proceeded with the next round--same stuff, different order, but still great service. I tried a slightly-more-PSE to see how she'd do and she passed the test--dirty talk, rough, etc. I didn't do anything crazy so no review for things beyond that.

I was talking to her after she showered the second time and she mentioned she'd only been here for two months--likely an admission that she was not the Prada of the website. Her ride came, we exchanged goodbyes, and she left. I texted the provider about the be&S and they responded that she'd just gained some weight recently (no--just. No). They offered me a discount for my next time but I think I'm going to pass. I guess I'll just do the bar thing despite my reluctance to have social interactions.

Going to try the bar scene tonight for ST. I actually don't mind talking to people--I just hate having to move through swarms of solicitors.

This is the point where I tell you my experiences have their pro's and con's. So far:

Escort service.

Pro: no effort involved to finding someone, chances of GFE (or them living up to a stated experience on their website) higher, a communication process that's simple, outcall means you're more comfortable.

Con: you really don't know who you're getting until they show up, paying the driver can be awkward, the cost of convenience makes this experience more expensive than a spa or SW / FL.

Spa.

Pro: you get to choose the "best" among a selection (I had tons the other night; other reviewers have not been so lucky), price ranges are set and on the cheaper end of services.

Con: hit-it and quit-it experiences due to the ST-nature of the business (con for me, but it could be a pro for you if that's what you're looking for), inconsistent experiences based off prior reviews.

I'm stealing the format from a previous post 'cause it's much easier:

Name: Prada.

Speaks English: She understood me and was able to make phrases so 7/10 compared to other non-english speakers.

Age: 26.

Country: Vietnam.

Face: 7/10.

Body 7/10.

Boobs: 7/10, see.

Skin: light-skinned, no acne.

BJ: 6/10.

GFE: 8/10.

PSE: 7/10.

Damage: RM 500, no tip.

WIR: GFE service was great, but she's not my type (I will find my cake and eat it too, someday).

I know how to operate the app. But asking more about approach. Everything on this forum says, "just use WeChat" and I'm like, yes I'm in BB browsing the People Nearby feature. I have a photo of my face. Nobody's reached out yet even though my What's Up description is pretty clear I'm looking for a good time. Do you all just say "Hi" to literally every female on the platform and hope the conversation moves towards suggested innuendos? How does this just magically happen for everyone?

FWIW, I'm Asian. Not sure if you all are successful because you're white? I've been checking this app since Monday and nothing. I use the nearby feature to read girls' status too but is there some code word I'm missing? Am I supposed to be looking for the Malaysian equivalent?

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2322486]I know how to operate the app. But asking more about approach. Everything on this forum says, "just use WeChat" and I'm like, yes I'm in BB browsing the People Nearby feature. I have a photo of my face. Nobody's reached out yet even though my What's Up description is pretty clear I'm looking for a good time. Do you all just say "Hi" to literally every female on the platform and hope the conversation moves towards suggested innuendos? How does this just magically happen for everyone?
FWIW, I'm Asian. Not sure if you all are successful because you're white? I've been checking this app since Monday and nothing. I use the nearby feature to read girls' status too but is there some code word I'm missing? Am I supposed to be looking for the Malaysian equivalent?[/QUOTE]FWIW. Step 1- look for sexy pics, low cut necklines, etc Step 2 - My obvious profile. I like the phrases "open minded lady" and "will cover expenses for guide" Step 3 - send suggestive message tasteful but without doubt Step 4 - fuck or get rejected.
I think being white helps - maybe be a little more less subtle in your profile without being crass.
Your profile pic should be something pretty attractive to them too.

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2322616]FWIW. Step 1- look for sexy pics, low cut necklines, etc Step 2 - My obvious profile. I like the phrases "open minded lady" and "will cover expenses for guide" Step 3 - send suggestive message tasteful but without doubt Step 4 - fuck or get rejected.
I think being white helps - maybe be a little more less subtle in your profile without being crass.
Your profile pic should be something pretty attractive to them too.

NI.[/QUOTE]NI comes through again, thank you. Was doing steps 1 and 2. Haven't seen suggestive English profiles and I can't read Chinese so. I'll take a shot at step 3. I guarantee step 4 will happen for me; I mean, I'll likely get rejected over getting fucked haha.

My profile picture is of me, and I'm f-ing beautiful so we've got that covered (just kidding I'm not so now I'll have to find some cool Instagram photo of a Ferrari or something I suppose).

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2322486]I know how to operate the app. But asking more about approach. Everything on this forum says, "just use WeChat" and I'm like, yes I'm in BB browsing the People Nearby feature. I have a photo of my face. Nobody's reached out yet even though my What's Up description is pretty clear I'm looking for a good time. Do you all just say "Hi" to literally every female on the platform and hope the conversation moves towards suggested innuendos? How does this just magically happen for everyone?

FWIW, I'm Asian. Not sure if you all are successful because you're white? I've been checking this app since Monday and nothing. I use the nearby feature to read girls' status too but is there some code word I'm missing? Am I supposed to be looking for the Malaysian equivalent?[/QUOTE]Ever thought of using Tinder? I have had great success with that. Search up my posts in the Jakarta board on how I do it. Have also used it for KL. One thing I noticed about WeChat on my last trip was the limited number of inivtes to connect. Normally get upwards of 10+ invites a day. Last trip I got about 5 over a 5 day period. Have chatted to a few girls but never picked them up. Did that once in Ho Chi Minh and boy was I dissappointed. Guess it is each to their own as NI seems to have success.

I was actually lucky using okcupid over Tinder or WeChat. I fished both in KL and in Jakarta. KL one is originally from Medan, Indonesia and has been living all her life in KL. Unsure if it's an Indonesian girls thing or not but in contrary. Best bang for very little buck.

Jakarta one is a 23 yr old Sundanese single mom. Its been 3 yrs since I met her and each time she makes sure to visit me and spread her legs I even took her to Bangkok with me on my last trip and this coming trip, she wants to go to Yogyakarta.

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2322617]NI comes through again, thank you. Was doing steps 1 and 2. Haven't seen suggestive English profiles and I can't read Chinese so. I'll take a shot at step 3. I guarantee step 4 will happen for me; I mean, I'll likely get rejected over getting fucked haha.

My profile picture is of me, and I'm f-ing beautiful so we've got that covered (just kidding I'm not so now I'll have to find some cool Instagram photo of a Ferrari or something I suppose).[/QUOTE]

I've never been to KL before. I see some a few old posts on Viagra at pharmacies, but wanted to see if anyone had some more recent info. Does anyone have recent experience with buying a Cialis at a KL pharmacy without a prescription and if yes, what pharmacy it was? Also, anyone bought generic Cialis there?

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Deagle101;2322617]NI comes through again, thank you. Was doing steps 1 and 2. Haven't seen suggestive English profiles and I can't read Chinese so. I'll take a shot at step 3. I guarantee step 4 will happen for me; I mean, I'll likely get rejected over getting fucked haha.
My profile picture is of me, and I'm f-ing beautiful so we've got that covered (just kidding I'm not so now I'll have to find some cool Instagram photo of a Ferrari or something I suppose).[/QUOTE]FWIW: Ferrari = wrong. So if you saw a picture of a Ferrari on Soc Media page what's the first thing you would say. Exactly BS. OR so he has got a Ferrari so he can pay me double what I usually ask.

A few travel pics of you in diff destinations around the world (maybe Thai, Phil) would accentuate your "world traveler to exotic places". Pics where you are chillin' out.

I have a Hawaii, Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia spread to help me with my ' traveler looking for guide to show him around sightseeing destinations" MO.

I know some guys just come out and say it but my MO tends to get more "homely" girls or part timers. As we know these girls provide better service than hardened pros.

When you chat to them, then you can gauge their interest in all things extra curricular and drop some suggestive hints.

NI.

I had Zero luck from Guardian without prescription. You can try pharmacy at Chow Kit or Masjid India area. You will have better luck there. Unsure about Generic Cialis but you can try Kamagra which is an Indian manufactured version of Viagra. Comes in Mango flavor. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;2323322]I've never been to KL before. I see some a few old posts on Viagra at pharmacies, but wanted to see if anyone had some more recent info. Does anyone have recent experience with buying a Cialis at a KL pharmacy without a prescription and if yes, what pharmacy it was? Also, anyone bought generic Cialis there?

Thanks all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;2323322]I've never been to KL before. I see some a few old posts on Viagra at pharmacies, but wanted to see if anyone had some more recent info. Does anyone have recent experience with buying a Cialis at a KL pharmacy without a prescription and if yes, what pharmacy it was? Also, anyone bought generic Cialis there?

Thanks all.[/QUOTE]I've never been able to get Viagra or Cialis from a pharmacy in KL. Tried a number of times when I lived there - 5 - 8 years ago. There was mention on here that you could buy it from the pharmacy in Sungei Wang Plaza, so tried and was knocked back. Tried the pharmacy further on down Bukit Bintang, again knocked back. A friend mentioned a place in Jalan Alor that used to sell Kamagra, seemed to have gone. Never contacted any of the online sellers as authenticity would have been dubious to say the least. Always wondered if the doctor on the corner of Bukit Bintang / Sultan Ismial who was always good for visiting for a nice anti-biotic boost would have written a script up, but never asked.

Only place that it was / is openly for sale is from the shark taxi drivers outside the BC and that will be as fake as it comes.

At the corner of Jalan Sultan Ismail and Jalan Bukit Bintang, there was / is a hypermarket. At the back of the underground floor, there was / is a pharmacy from where I had bought Viagra couple of years ago. I don't know whether the hypermarket is still there as there were some construction works going on in the vicinity. Try to check out.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2324110] I've never been able to get Viagra or Cialis from a pharmacy in KL. [/QUOTE]

Had a week alone in KL which isn't going to happen again for a while, and had a big pocket full of cash due to a lucky job, so made the most of it and though I would do my best to try everything once! (or twice) Here is the report and I hope it helps out.

Hotel. Hoilday Inn Express. OK price, location and rooms, elevators go directly outside so no walk of shame past the reception, just smile at the security guard.

Beach Club around midnight.

Its certainly not getting any better! The eastern Europeans have gone, and no sign of any Filipinos. Even the sharks in the tank above the bar have disappeared! But the Vietnamese sharks are still lurking! Generally it wasn't busy for a Friday night girls or guys. As well as the Viets I chatted to one girl who claimed to be local Chinese, and one Indonesian. The plan was avoid the seasoned pros, who were fairly open about how many times they have been to Malaysia, what other countries they have worked in etc etc My first choice disappeared with another customer, but in the end found a little Viet for long time 700 and while it wasn't a great GFE (no DFK) she stayed until 11 am and enjoyed the sex. Had 4 shots!.

Note about the taxi mafia outside. I just told them I was staying at concord which is a short walk away, then just walked down to the bus stop and order a Grab.

Hotel Soleil. Golden City Spa.

Still closed and no sign of anything happening.

Skyriver Spa.

This place has always served me the best and this time was no exception. It was closed for renovation but has been open again for a month or two.

Line up consisted of Viets, Lao and Thais (as well as maybe Chinese but I can't remember). Maybe 10 or 12 girls in total. Picked a Lao girl who was very cute and looking receptive, and turned into quite a good GFE, nice body and no children, I think 28 yo. Generally the first shot is fairly routine but if you then have some fun with them and suggest extending the time to relax, they can warm up to you if they like you. So had some good DFK, long foreplay a second session. She was on the bus to Thailand for a visa run that night, otherwise might have seen her a second time.

Genesis Spa. HSBC building.

Had some good and bad experiences here, normally not so great.

The line up was Chinese and Indonesian, may have been others but I can't remember. Anyway chose the Indonesian who was just a mechanical seasoned pro. No relaxing after the first shot, straight to the shower and out.

Massage shops on Changkat. Most of the girls are unattractive but saw 1 or 2 okay. Took a friendly Cambodian for a 1 hour oil massage. A solo mum, maybe late 20's. She said she only does hand job, but I did play with her enough she got worked up and let me finger her and make her cum. Probably could have seen her again outside of work but wasn't that into her.

Beach Club again.

I was actually keen on checking out kyo club at mandarin oriental as I read in the past it had freelancers, but as it was to early I stepped into the beach. Again fairly quiet compared to the past, which could also be because of Ramadan but who knows. Anyway started talking to a girl who claimed to be from Japan. I was pretty suspicious about this as those Viets will say they are from anywhere and still don't know if I believe it. She was mid 30's no children and good looking for her age. Had worked at Hyatt in Singapore so maybe bit of a pro, but didn't get a lot of history out of her. I asked to see her passport which she claimed was at her hotel, but also didn't give away anything to not believe she was Japanese, and none of the Viet girls acknowledged her existence. Anyway had good GFE vibes and DFK in BC so agreed to 800 overnight and took off with her to Mandarin to check out the kyo club. No freelancers to be seen, but the music and vibe factor was great after BC, so stayed for a couple of hours dancing and making out on the couches, before she said she was very horny and lets go! Had a good first session and then promptly fell asleep. Woke up a hour later with her hand down there and thought she was just still horny. But actually turned out to be her ploy to go home early, as afterwards I got the hungry / can't sleep / you already had 2 shots etc etc. Silly me made the mistake of already paying her so nothing I could do except explain to her the definition of "overnight" and be a bit pissed off with her running away. - I was looking forward to a nice relaxing wake up morning session!

Green Elephant Spa.

Small line up and all Viets except for 2 local Indians and 1 local Chinese Malay! One of the Indian girls was cute so took her. She was a seasoned pro but good and the best body of the trip. Stayed the full time limit chatting and got her Wechat contact as wouldn't mind going there again one day!

Bond spa.

This place is joined to a KTV and bit of a maze, also maybe shared with a apartment building! Its all a bit odd but okay!

The line up consisted of about 6 Chinese girls and 1 Viet. I never had a good experience with mainland Chinese so the Viet was the only option. Luckily she was smiling. Tall and slim which I like. She claimed to have never tried a western guy and had Malaysian boyfriends in the past. Anyway 1 shot fairly routine and then enjoyed the rest of the time chatting and making out. She said she'd like to see me outside sometime so got her wechat contact.

Wechat. Really a waste of time doing the people nearby, just viets not attractive enough to work at BC, ladyboys and pimps. But you never know.

Changkat. Walked down here at 1 am. Was surprised by the number of Africans, maybe 10-15 of them trolling the strip. 1 looked okay but still wasn't going there! Some maybe working girls sitting at tables alone or in pairs but nothing exciting.

Fuji Spa.

A big place joined to a massive KTV. The line up was huge. Maybe 20 girls, China, Indonesia and Thailand from memory. Took a small Indonesian for a average session. She was newish but fairly set on her taught routine.

Last day and night I was thinking of going back to BC, or maybe check out Thai Club, but really I wasn't feeling very enthusiastic. I msgd the Bond spa Viet early on to see if she wanted to meet outside. Was lying on my bed later contemplating BC when she msged she could but maybe I just come to the spa as she didn't feel that safe going out during Ramadan. Anyway went there, asked for her and paid for an hour and a half. Turned out to be the best sex of the trip and super good GFE, very passionate and a fun girl. I think after about two and a half hours I started wondering why we hadn't finished yet and if this was going to cost me a bucket load of money. She just said don't worry I'll tell the captain we fell asleep. Then I think sometime after 3 or 4 hours the captain knocks on the door. So time to go, but she wants it one more time! 10 min later the captains knocking on the door again and I'm not allowed to stop wondering what trouble I'll be in! Anyway she seemed to have it under control and said she can do what she wants as she has high paying customers in the KTV. Anyway didn't pay anything extra and walked away a very happy man.

Real Viagra. Any small looking pharmacy would likely sell it to you. I got it on Bukit Bintang Street.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2324183]At the corner of Jalan Sultan Ismail and Jalan Bukit Bintang, there was / is a hypermarket. At the back of the underground floor, there was / is a pharmacy from where I had bought Viagra couple of years ago. I don't know whether the hypermarket is still there as there were some construction works going on in the vicinity. Try to check out.[/QUOTE]There is 1 or 2 people that sell it and all the other ed pills at the flea market in China town, in the alleyway that runs under the swiss inn, You will see all the people about but go about 7/8 am most mornings, if you can't find there, theirs is usually a guy with a table set up in lorong petaling, the back st that has all the upstairs knock shops.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;2324299]There is 1 or 2 people that sell it and all the other ed pills at the flea market in China town, in the alleyway that runs under the swiss inn, You will see all the people about but go about 7/8 am most mornings, if you can't find there, theirs is usually a guy with a table set up in lorong petaling, the back st that has all the upstairs knock shops.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend that. Its likely fake, will only half work and you'll wake up with a big headache! You can go into just about any small local pharmacy and buy the real stuff. Don't buy it from the taxi drivers at BC or sex shops either, its also not original. This is Malaysia, not Singapore. The small pharmacy's will sell it to you, just not the big chain pharmacy's.

[QUOTE=Huboon;2324228]Had a week alone in KL which isn't going to happen again for a while, and had a big pocket full of cash due to a lucky job, so made the most of it and though I would do my best to try everything once! (or twice) Here is the report and I hope it helps out.
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I was actually keen on checking out kyo club at mandarin oriental as I read in the past it had freelancers, but as it was to early I stepped into the beach. Again fairly quiet compared to the past, which could also be because of Ramadan but who knows. Anyway started talking to a girl who claimed to be from Japan. I was pretty suspicious about this as those Viets will say they are from anywhere and still don't know if I believe it. She was mid 30's no children and good looking for her age. Had worked at Hyatt in Singapore so maybe bit of a pro, but didn't get a lot of history out of her. I asked to see her passport which she claimed was at her hotel, but also didn't give away anything to not believe she was Japanese, and none of the Viet girls acknowledged her existence. Anyway had good GFE vibes and DFK in BC so agreed to 800 overnight and took off with her to Mandarin to check out the kyo club. No freelancers to be seen, but the music and vibe factor was great after BC, so stayed for a couple of hours dancing and making out on the couches, before she said she was very horny and lets go! Had a good first session and then promptly fell asleep. Woke up a hour later with her hand down there and thought she was just still horny. But actually turned out to be her ploy to go home early, as afterwards I got the hungry / can't sleep / you already had 2 shots etc etc. Silly me made the mistake of already paying her so nothing I could do except explain to her the definition of "overnight" and be a bit pissed off with her running away. - I was looking forward to a nice relaxing wake up morning session!
.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report appreciate your research and time writing. To all please remember. DON'T PAY UPFRONT, repeat don't PAY UPFRONT. If they want the money first say goodbye.

If they give you some BS about not sure whether you will pay give them the same story back. Not sure you will give good service after I pay.

If they go long term you may wish to pay them half and half. Half after night session, half after morning session.

As you know I ALWAYS have my starting price and tip for good performance. Make them work for it. But always follow through with your word of tip.

Also if they get to the room and start putting on a performance about money or not delivering on agreed conditions then kick them to the curb money less.

But once again make sure you stipulate what you want. As many of you know I double check before we leave for the hotel. How long, how many pops, what type of sex, covered / uncovered, DFK and anything else I think is required.

Glad you had a nice time. Itching for those sweet Viets in BC.

NI.

[QUOTE=Huboon;2324228]Had a week alone in KL which isn't going to happen again for a while, and had a big pocket full of cash due to a lucky job, so made the most of it and though I would do my best to try everything once! (or twice) Here is the report and I hope it helps out.

Hotel. Hoilday Inn Express. OK price, location and rooms, elevators go directly outside so no walk of shame past the reception, just smile at the security guard.

Beach Club around midnight.

Its certainly not getting any better! The eastern Europeans have gone, and no sign of any Filipinos. Even the sharks in the tank above the bar have disappeared! But the Vietnamese sharks are still lurking! Generally it wasn't busy for a Friday night girls or guys. As well as the Viets I chatted to one girl who claimed to be local Chinese, and one Indonesian. The plan was avoid the seasoned pros, who were fairly open about how many times they have been to Malaysia, what other countries they have worked in etc etc My first choice disappeared with another customer, but in the end found a little Viet for long time 700 and while it wasn't a great GFE (no DFK) she stayed until 11 am and enjoyed the sex. Had 4 shots!.

Note about the taxi mafia outside. I just told them I was staying at concord which is a short walk away, then just walked down to the bus stop and order a Grab.

Hotel Soleil. Golden City Spa.

Still closed and no sign of anything happening.

Skyriver Spa.

This place has always served me the best and this time was no exception. It was closed for renovation but has been open again for a month or two.

Line up consisted of Viets, Lao and Thais (as well as maybe Chinese but I can't remember). Maybe 10 or 12 girls in total. Picked a Lao girl who was very cute and looking receptive, and turned into quite a good GFE, nice body and no children, I think 28 yo. Generally the first shot is fairly routine but if you then have some fun with them and suggest extending the time to relax, they can warm up to you if they like you. So had some good DFK, long foreplay a second session. She was on the bus to Thailand for a visa run that night, otherwise might have seen her a second time.

Genesis Spa. HSBC building.

Had some good and bad experiences here, normally not so great.

The line up was Chinese and Indonesian, may have been others but I can't remember. Anyway chose the Indonesian who was just a mechanical seasoned pro. No relaxing after the first shot, straight to the shower and out.

Massage shops on Changkat. Most of the girls are unattractive but saw 1 or 2 okay. Took a friendly Cambodian for a 1 hour oil massage. A solo mum, maybe late 20's. She said she only does hand job, but I did play with her enough she got worked up and let me finger her and make her cum. Probably could have seen her again outside of work but wasn't that into her.

Beach Club again.

I was actually keen on checking out kyo club at mandarin oriental as I read in the past it had freelancers, but as it was to early I stepped into the beach. Again fairly quiet compared to the past, which could also be because of Ramadan but who knows. Anyway started talking to a girl who claimed to be from Japan. I was pretty suspicious about this as those Viets will say they are from anywhere and still don't know if I believe it. She was mid 30's no children and good looking for her age. Had worked at Hyatt in Singapore so maybe bit of a pro, but didn't get a lot of history out of her. I asked to see her passport which she claimed was at her hotel, but also didn't give away anything to not believe she was Japanese, and none of the Viet girls acknowledged her existence. Anyway had good GFE vibes and DFK in BC so agreed to 800 overnight and took off with her to Mandarin to check out the kyo club. No freelancers to be seen, but the music and vibe factor was great after BC, so stayed for a couple of hours dancing and making out on the couches, before she said she was very horny and lets go! Had a good first session and then promptly fell asleep. Woke up a hour later with her hand down there and thought she was just still horny. But actually turned out to be her ploy to go home early, as afterwards I got the hungry / can't sleep / you already had 2 shots etc etc. Silly me made the mistake of already paying her so nothing I could do except explain to her the definition of "overnight" and be a bit pissed off with her running away. - I was looking forward to a nice relaxing wake up morning session!

Green Elephant Spa.

Small line up and all Viets except for 2 local Indians and 1 local Chinese Malay! One of the Indian girls was cute so took her. She was a seasoned pro but good and the best body of the trip. Stayed the full time limit chatting and got her Wechat contact as wouldn't mind going there again one day!

Bond spa.

This place is joined to a KTV and bit of a maze, also maybe shared with a apartment building! Its all a bit odd but okay!

The line up consisted of about 6 Chinese girls and 1 Viet. I never had a good experience with mainland Chinese so the Viet was the only option. Luckily she was smiling. Tall and slim which I like. She claimed to have never tried a western guy and had Malaysian boyfriends in the past. Anyway 1 shot fairly routine and then enjoyed the rest of the time chatting and making out. She said she'd like to see me outside sometime so got her wechat contact.

Wechat. Really a waste of time doing the people nearby, just viets not attractive enough to work at BC, ladyboys and pimps. But you never know.

Changkat. Walked down here at 1 am. Was surprised by the number of Africans, maybe 10-15 of them trolling the strip. 1 looked okay but still wasn't going there! Some maybe working girls sitting at tables alone or in pairs but nothing exciting.

Fuji Spa.

A big place joined to a massive KTV. The line up was huge. Maybe 20 girls, China, Indonesia and Thailand from memory. Took a small Indonesian for a average session. She was newish but fairly set on her taught routine.

Last day and night I was thinking of going back to BC, or maybe check out Thai Club, but really I wasn't feeling very enthusiastic. I msgd the Bond spa Viet early on to see if she wanted to meet outside. Was lying on my bed later contemplating BC when she msged she could but maybe I just come to the spa as she didn't feel that safe going out during Ramadan. Anyway went there, asked for her and paid for an hour and a half. Turned out to be the best sex of the trip and super good GFE, very passionate and a fun girl. I think after about two and a half hours I started wondering why we hadn't finished yet and if this was going to cost me a bucket load of money. She just said don't worry I'll tell the captain we fell asleep. Then I think sometime after 3 or 4 hours the captain knocks on the door. So time to go, but she wants it one more time! 10 min later the captains knocking on the door again and I'm not allowed to stop wondering what trouble I'll be in! Anyway she seemed to have it under control and said she can do what she wants as she has high paying customers in the KTV. Anyway didn't pay anything extra and walked away a very happy man.

Real Viagra. Any small looking pharmacy would likely sell it to you. I got it on Bukit Bintang Street.[/QUOTE]Wow. Great report. Very detailed and informative. Looking forward to my trip to KL soon.

How was the spa itself! I heard mixed reviews and could be a hit-and-miss? I walked past that place many time but didn't really inquired. Maybe time to give it a try!

[QUOTE=Huboon;2324228]Green Elephant Spa.

Small line up and all Viets except for 2 local Indians and 1 local Chinese Malay! One of the Indian girls was cute so took her. She was a seasoned pro but good and the best body of the trip. Stayed the full time limit chatting and got her Wechat contact as wouldn't mind going there again one day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2325537]How was the spa itself! I heard mixed reviews and could be a hit-and-miss? I walked past that place many time but didn't really inquired. Maybe time to give it a try![/QUOTE]Have popped in a few times. Either busy or talent poor. Never partaken so do what I do have a look and then prob walk.

NI.

Thanks NI. Will give that a try, hopefully luck will work out on my favor.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2325696]Have popped in a few times. Either busy or talent poor. Never partaken so do what I do have a look and then prob walk.

NI.[/QUOTE]

Anyone tried this site before? Got Eastern Europeans, Koreans, Viets, etc.

[URL]ultradoll888.com[/URL]

I wonder if any good? I just heard about this but will not have a chance to try them as not planning to be in KL anytime soon. This one KIV for next time.

Anyone try the latest additions to [URL]amoi2u.com[/URL].

Anyone got feedback on Minny, Dear, Kim, Carol or Venus?

Hi guys,

Any body interested in joint mongering are welcome. In KL till the 1st. PM me to connect.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2325915]Anyone tried this site before? Got Eastern Europeans, Koreans, Viets, etc.

[URL]ultradoll888.com[/URL]

I wonder if any good? I just heard about this but will not have a chance to try them as not planning to be in KL anytime soon. This one KIV for next time.[/QUOTE]I have used them multiple times last year. No major complaints. I had positive experiences with Viet, Korean, Indo girls in this place. I would stay away from PRC girls. Its best to go to the hotel, select the girl in-person rather than ordering outcall.

Firstly the captain was a very friendly Chinese gentleman. Met me at the lobby and took me to a newly arrived Thai. She seemed a little tired so skipped her. Then asked for Carol. He took me to her, she seemed a little sleepy. Against better judgement took her. Paid the captain. A hug when I entered offered me water let me have a smoke and she entered the shower. Tried to make small talk but language barrier made it hard. Had to resort to gorilla sign language and use small phrases. Took shower and went to the bed. Boy things did change from there!!

She was very naughty. Started to stuff her boobs into my face. Started with a nice long CB, and blew me for near 15 minutes. Surprise was out of the blue she started licking my balls. Then DATY, clean shaven no smell. She really does enjoy DATY, didn't let me finger her though. But when I tried to stop she wanted more, she went wild. Then capped me started with WOT, miss and finished in doggy.

I was playing with her nipples the whole time. She enjoys that. Showered and she even dressed me. Had a smoke small chitchat and left. She was playing with my little bro even after getting dressed.

Name: Carol.

English: 4/10.

Age: Didn't ask.

Country: Thai.

Face: 7/10 (cute).

Body 7/10, weird tummy.

Boobs: 8/10.

Skin: Soft.

BJ: 9/10.

GFE: 9/10.

Pussy: 9/10 Tight, Clean.

Damage: RM 210.

WIR: Maybe, Too many options available.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2326510]Anyone try the latest additions to [URL]amoi2u.com[/URL].

Anyone got feedback on Minny, Dear, Kim, Carol or Venus?[/QUOTE]

I have used their service on several occasions and found them pretty straight forward. Don't about those girls but I have been dealing with David for past 4/5 years. His girls are pretty nice and decent some them actually can deliver PSE.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2326510]Anyone try the latest additions to [URL]amoi2u.com[/URL].

Anyone got feedback on Minny, Dear, Kim, Carol or Venus?[/QUOTE]

I only took their service once and they tend to over charge for certain nationals. I tend to stick to my regulars (Sam & David, check my old post for info) as they knows me and provides their best service.

As others suggested, try spa, Club for PRC as they tend to be Hit-and-Miss.

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2325915]Anyone tried this site before? Got Eastern Europeans, Koreans, Viets, etc.

[URL]ultradoll888.com[/URL]

I wonder if any good? I just heard about this but will not have a chance to try them as not planning to be in KL anytime soon. This one KIV for next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fawkes291;2327088]Name: Carol.

English: 4/10.

Age: Didn't ask.

Country: Thai.

Face: 7/10 (cute).

Body 7/10, weird tummy.[/QUOTE]As in a baby damage tummy?

I usually ask them which girls have no baby but last time there was only one, grace from Indo. Most their girls got baby damage.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-A7XflVOM[/URL]

Really bad experience last night with amoi2 you.

Before going for incall, I visited Bukit bintang and took a walk towards Duluxe spa (Federal Hotel). Saw a couple of freelancers, one of them looked okay (Taiwanese girl), I asked to see the place. She took me to massage place, which had several massage beds covered only with curtain. When I seemed upset she took me upstairs where there were several rooms close to each other. The rooms weren't in the best of condition, but for the price seemed okay (she quoted only 150 MYR for FS). I reckoned it wasn't going to be a good experience in a dingy dark room, so decided to head elsewhere. Went to Federal hotel Duluxe SPa. The papasan called out about 15 girls. Some local Malay, Lao, Indonesian, Chinese (no Vietnamese in lineup), mayanmar etc. He said 280 MYR for session. Didn't say for how long. I didn't see any girls I liked, so moved on.

Couple of hours later decided to visit amoi2 you. The incall place is located in hotel the'majestic in Pudu area. The lobby doesn't have A / see. Actually, it was so humid I went outside and messaged contact via whatsapp and asked for Rabbit (she is on Amoi2 you website). I usually go for petite (breast size be girls), however, the website didn't have any, so decided she was the closest. Guy messaged me back and asks if I want incall or outcall. I message back and say incall and that I'm there now. He asks me to wait in lobby and that his friend (who is '300 kg') will come down to collect me. The '300 kg' guy comes and we go up in the elevator.

Go to something like the 13th floor. There we knock on door, and a girl nowhere looking like rabbit answers. On closer inspection, I can see faint resemblance to rabbit on website, but this girl has bags (black marks) under her eyes and looks she has just been woken up by us. I decide then and there it's definite 'NO way'. Tell 300 kg papasan that. I tell him I'm really looking for petite girl with be-cup size (although rabbit was also very skinny). We walk to another room and he knocks on door. No answer. He keeps knocking for ages. No answer. THen he messages on phone (seemed he was messaging girl). She appears from lift and goes inside room.

Papasan asks me if I'm happy with her. I take a look. She seems okay. Good figure. Be-cup No bags under eyes. Papasan and I discuss prices. 240 MYR for 45 minutes /1 shot, 480 MYR for 2 shots /3 hours. I ask if I can take 1 hour then extend to the 3 hour package later. He says no. Pay upfront for the whole three hours. By that time I was pretty much tired of walking around Bukit bintang, then coming here. SO agree for 3 hours. It was 9:10 PM when the deal was closed. So I tell him, we finish at 12:10 PM. He agrees and leaves room.

It was all downhill from here. The girl seemed disinterested, checking phone etc. She gives me towel for shower. After I shower, she uses the other shower (there are two showers in the bathroom). No idea why we couldn't shower together and save water!.

I ask her for massage to get in the mood. She does a massage of what could only be described as two claw like hands picking on my muscles from a height. This goes on for about 10 minutes then she stops. I initiate BJ, she asked me 'with condom' or 'without'. When I say 'without' she points to her braces and says it's out of the question. SO I agree for without. She then performs a really bad HJ. She does this for a while. Finally, we get condom on and she does a pretty horrendous CBJ. When it comes to FJ. SHe has no idea where to lie on the bed, so I have to give pointers. We get to point where she has her feet on my chest, and I'm just about to enter her. Shock, horror. Her puss is nowhere to be seen. She is not guiding me either. I move up-down with johnney, but her p-hole is so tiny there is no way of entry. She doesn't' even make any attempt to lube-up, so I reach for my bag and take KY out. I offer her. She puts some on her puss. Still it's so tight (tiny), I cannot enter her. So, I suggest we watch tv for a bit, then try again. That also becomes a bit of a choir, as I have to explain (translate to Thai using google translate). She lies on one side of the bed and I on the other and we watch TV. I show her a picture on my phone of a couple snuggling in bed watching TV. She says 'I don't like'.

After a while she gives me (bad) HJ again and we try to do FJ again. Still no go. Too tight. No puss. Actually, now I've located her profile on amoi2 you. She goes by 'Chleo'. When I asked her name in the room, she told me a thai name. Anyway, the profile says 'low mileage'. Probably, because no one's ever managed to enter her. If the key doesn't fit the slot, how do you take the car out of the showroom?

In the end I settle for a HJ and manage to unload. Even before unloading she is moaning about getting juice on the sheets and heads to cupboard to get a towel. Afterwards I go to light a cigarette, again she starts grumbling about smell. I light cigarette nevertheless. More grumbling. She sprays air freshener. She says my time is nearly up thinking I had only booked her for two hours. But she whatsapp messages boss, confirms, and becomes quiet afterwards.

We watch TV for a bit. I try to start a conversation, but I may as well have been talking to a dead fish. At one point she throws a tantrum because I asked if Chang Mai (where she is from) is near Udon Thani. It's not. But, I don't think she quite understands that I was just trying to make conversation.

One thing to note was that after I unloaded first shot she put her cloths back on and never took them off afterwards. Not even when I suggested second shot. We start second shot by her giving HJ (fully clothed). When I suggest she puts condom on, she goes weird. By this point, it was 11:40 pm. Half hour still left. She goes to the living area of apartment, sits down on couch and messages boss. A Chinese guy enters apartment (boss). He is not the same guy as before (the 300 Kg) guy. He says my time is up and that she has another booking at 12 am. He shows me his watch which shows nearly 12 am. I show him my phone and says the time is only 11:40 pm now. He then says the most shocking thing ever, he says 'I go by my watch'. So now I open Internet on phone and do search 'time in Malaysia' and tell him 'this is the time in Malaysia' and show him on phone. He goes quiet.

I decide not to leave until time is up so sit and catch-up on emails. He stays in the room with us. At exactly 12:10 am I leave the room. He leaves after me. She didn't have an appointment at 12:00 am after all.

Now that I've looked at chloe's profile on amoi2 you. ([URL]http://amoi2u.com/klescort/kl-escort-chloe-from-thailand-fair-skin-very-beautiful-tight-wet-pussy-low-mileage/[/URL]), I can definitely say she only offered the FJ service. Even that was a no go. Most of the other services (KISS, CATBATH, DATY, 69, BBBJ) were out of question. Catbath was only offered after a lot of persuasion. No kissing. I suggested DATY, this was refused. 69 was never offered / suggested, I didn't request it either. BBBJ was refused.

All in all this must be the worst experience I've had. Apart from the facilities in the room, Hot water shower, comfy bed, TV (music channels only), decent A / see (probably much needed in a humid building. The 300 kg guy carries a small towel to wipe sweat), there was nothing in this experience worth writing home about.

At the start, when I asked Chloe where she was from and the 300 kg guy answered for her, that should have been my cue to leave, but then where to?, I don't fancy going to Bukit bintang on a crowded Friday night.

Ratings and info:

Girl Name: Chloe.

Girl attitude: 0/10.

Face: 8.

Girl pink bits: 0/10.

Location: 3/10.

Facilities: 8/10.

Girl Figure: 7/10 (she had a scar on upper / leg groin area, some lovehandles but good figure).

GFE: 0/10.

WIR: No.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2327921][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-A7XflVOM[/URL][/QUOTE]Not useful, even misleading. I would NEVER be lured by such an ad in KL. (said very friendly to you).

Hello fellow mongers.

I will be iin KL for the first time and will be staying for 3 days. I am looking for affordable price massage and sex. Please guide me and will return the favour in India and Thailand. Here's what I found after reading the forum:

For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

Petaling Street. What's the scene there?

Spa. In Bulkit Bintang such as Sky River. How much do they charge, what is the best SPa around with services at affordable prices?

Thanks in Advance.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2329497]Really bad experience last night with amoi2 you.
WIR: No.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents yes it takes time to find, negotiate and you will pay more 350-500ST.

BUT if you do your homework chance of success is higher.

Deal directly with girls. ALWAYS pay after, if not sorry not interested.

NI.

So took a walk past the Beach Club on Friday night at around 11:30 pm. A time and a day that you would expect to find it rocking. Outside was pretty much empty. Couldn't see too far inside and there certainly wasn't the usual mass of girls waiting to get in.

Not due back in KL again untill October. Expect to see the For-Sale or Under New Management sign out the front by then at this rate.

Thanks to all the FRs filed under this thread, I was able to narrow my choices down to Beach Club. Was on a short trip to KL, with a bunch of friends. Stayed in an Airbnb close to Bukit Ceylon. Had only a day and half to spend in KL. Took in some sights and had a fine evening at the Whisky Bar and Havana Bar and Grill. Decided to move into high gear and took a cab to the Beach Club. Had a couple of drinks and connected with a Vietnamese bird by the name Cindy. Paid 500 R for overnight. She said she was in her late 20's. But, I doubt it; must be in her mid-30's. However, great company and spoke good English. Total GFE, BBBJ, 69 and offered BBFS, but my johnny took cover.

Overall, a great experience! Can't wait to get back in the near future!

Thanks to all the FRs filed under this thread, I was able to narrow my choices down to Beach Club. Was on a short trip to KL, with a bunch of friends. Stayed in an Airbnb close to Bukit Ceylon. Had only a day and half to spend in KL. Took in some sights and had a fine evening at the Whisky Bar and Havana Bar and Grill. Decided to move into high gear and took a cab to the Beach Club. Had a couple of drinks and connected with a Vietnamese bird by the name Cindy. Paid 500 are for overnight. Beautiful lady. He said she was in her late 20's. But, I doubt it; must be in her mid to late-30's. However, great company and spoke good English. Total GFE, BBBJ, 69 and offered BBFS, but my johnny took cover.

Overall, a great experience! Can't wait to get back to KL in the near future!

Wow, that amoi2u experience sounds pretty dread.

I have been lucky with them, booked outcall only with them a few times.

The rule is to always go to their incall site and ask to see girl first, those 30 seconds of interaction when she open door is crucial cause you need to confirm following.

1) she looks like photo (many, many times they do not).

2) if she interacts with you smile or positive vibe then I ask her a direct question like if she speaks English or where she from. If no smile and zero interaction then I move on.

3) Ask the guy if she friendly enough, usually they tell you if others have had issues with her.

Only prob is the guys in charge don't like going room to room and only show you a max of 4 girls before thinking your wasting their time. They not very patient at all.

Amoi2u is still the best value though, at 3 hour bookings that are normally 2 hours with other places.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2329497]Really bad experience last night with amoi2 you.

Before going for incall, I visited Bukit bintang and took a walk towards Duluxe spa (Federal Hotel). Saw a couple of freelancers, one of them looked okay (Taiwanese girl), I asked to see the place. She took me to massage place, which had several massage beds covered only with curtain. When I seemed upset she took me upstairs where there were several rooms close to each other. The rooms weren't in the best of condition, but for the price seemed okay (she quoted only 150 MYR for FS). I reckoned it wasn't going to be a good experience in a dingy dark room, so decided to head elsewhere. Went to Federal hotel Duluxe SPa. The papasan called out about 15 girls. Some local Malay, Lao, Indonesian, Chinese (no Vietnamese in lineup), mayanmar etc. He said 280 MYR for session. Didn't say for how long. I didn't see any girls I liked, so moved on..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2329663]My 2 cents yes it takes time to find, negotiate and you will pay more 350-500ST.

BUT if you do your homework chance of success is higher.

Deal directly with girls. ALWAYS pay after, if not sorry not interested.

NI.[/QUOTE]I've had good experiences dealing directly with girls in Vietnam on site called kynu. Need to be good at Vietnamese though (and teen code). The usual photoshopping and posting pictures when they were ten years younger still happens though.

From the handful of girls, only one had had couple of kids. Even then she gave good service.

When I arrived in Malaysia, did start out with bars. But for some reason, the bars (between Havana Grill and Hotel Soleil. The bar side not hotel soleil / Havana side) were dead when I went. Probably because it was a week day and it was raining.

That's when I decided to try the spa scene in KL. After that felt like a change, so tried the incall hotel. (Just because it's something new).

I could well have gone to Duluxe spa Federal hotel (to see if they had different lineup) or tried Bond Spa. But, I don't particularly fancy places in the middle of touristy hot spots. I feel they are a bit too wham, bam, thank you mam', if you know what I mean.

Perpahps next time I visit KL, I will try the beach club and thai club scene. Maybe even go to some bars like Hilton Hotel (I heard this is also a potential haunt). The direct approach seems the best.

BTW: any tips on figuring out baby damage with the direct approach (without asking directly).

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2330912]I've had good experiences dealing directly with girls in Vietnam on site called kynu. Need to be good at Vietnamese though (and teen code). The usual photoshopping and posting pictures when they were ten years younger still happens though.
Perpahps next time I visit KL, I will try the beach club and thai club scene. Maybe even go to some bars like Hilton Hotel (I heard this is also a potential haunt). The direct approach seems the best.
BTW: any tips on figuring out baby damage with the direct approach (without asking directly).[/QUOTE]Can't believe you didn't try BC & TC just to check it out.

Baby damage. Just ask -if its that important make it part of the negotiation.

Mongers need to look at picking up FL as business and negotiations. You can do it tactfully without making it seem like an interrogation.

As many of you know I have specific requirements. I ask them, double check before leaving and then when back to room they provide or if they reneg I kick them out.

Negotiating this way also sends signals to them that this is not your first time.

My opinion if you are not prepared to ask you get what you get.

NI.

Hello people, please help. I will surely write FRs of my experience in KL.

Hello fellow mongers.

I will be iin KL for the first time and will be staying for 3 days. I am looking for affordable price massage and sex. Please guide me and will return the favour in India and Thailand. Here's what I found after reading the forum:

For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

Petaling Street. What's the scene there?

Spa. In Bulkit Bintang such as Sky River. How much do they charge, what is the best SPa around with services at affordable prices?

Thanks in Advance.

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2331285]Hello people, please help. I will surely write FRs of my experience in KL.
Hello fellow mongers.
I will be iin KL for the first time and will be staying for 3 days. I am looking for affordable price massage and sex. Please guide me and will return the favour in India and Thailand. Here's what I found after reading the forum:
For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?
Petaling Street. What's the scene there?
Spa. In Bulkit Bintang such as Sky River. How much do they charge, what is the best SPa around with services at affordable prices?
Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]The answers to your questions ARE in the forum. Re read it. Go back a year and a half for currency maybe.

I would think that the KL forum gets questions like yours once every 2 wks on average by mongers from a certain location in the world.

Sometimes silence tells you something.

NI.

That's truly a terrible experience for you brother. My experience with Amoi2 and dealing with David (Chinese guy) is much better though!

I took his service in both in-calls and out calls and I have been dealing with him for years. As V mentioned, it's fairly a decent price and he does have good selection. He knows there is no monkey business with me and he won't win anything by giving me witches.

I usually describe my requirements and he recommends based on that and I pick what I fancy from there. Pretty straight forward.

Deluxe spa is usually 90 min for that price.

Hopefully you will have better experience next time. Happy Safe Mongering.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2329497]All in all this must be the worst experience I've had. Apart from the facilities in the room, Hot water shower, comfy bed, TV (music channels only), decent A / see (probably much needed in a humid building. The 300 kg guy carries a small towel to wipe sweat), there was nothing in this experience worth writing home about.

At the start, when I asked Chloe where she was from and the 300 kg guy answered for her, that should have been my cue to leave, but then where to?, I don't fancy going to Bukit bintang on a crowded Friday night..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2331285]Hello people, please help. I will surely write FRs of my experience in KL.

Hello fellow mongers.

I will be iin KL for the first time and will be staying for 3 days. I am looking for affordable price massage and sex. Please guide me and will return the favour in India and Thailand. Here's what I found after reading the forum:

For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

Petaling Street. What's the scene there?

Spa. In Bulkit Bintang such as Sky River. How much do they charge, what is the best SPa around with services at affordable prices?

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]You should def check out skyriver as I noticed you used the word "affordable" a couple times. As for being "safe for an Indian guy", its pretty much safe for any guy willing to pay for the service. The only way its not safe is if you don't want to pay the set price and think you can haggle on your first girl. Probably can haggle on your second or third booking, maybe.

Just note when I visited last year you pay house but girl also expects a tip, not sure if same deal now.

Per your pending report on skyriver, can you find out if kent still working there. He one of the booking chaps who explains what girls they got and who can do what. He also can give you deal if you willing to take back to back bookings. I used to deal with him only when visited last year but not been back to skyriver since.

Also an update on prices be appreciated.

Looking forward to review.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2331034]...if they reneg I kick them out.[/QUOTE]Seems this has only happened once in a blue moon. Was wondering, would you be comfortable going back to BC on the same night (knowing that she could be back there) Or would you pick another spot.

I'm guessing going back to BC is perfectly fine as she was the one that tried to reneg.

Anyone spin the new girl they got at amoi2u this week?

Look at the size of these tits!

[URL]http://amoi2u.com/klescort/kl-escort-chanel-from-thailand-36e-super-boobs-beautiful-good-seevice-must-try/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LocalBoy4;2331744]Seems this has only happened once in a blue moon. Was wondering, would you be comfortable going back to BC on the same night (knowing that she could be back there) Or would you pick another spot.
I'm guessing going back to BC is perfectly fine as she was the one that tried to reneg.[/QUOTE]I prob would go down to TC or maybe Changkat for sake of the hassle but I am confident enough to say to other girls there exactly what happened.

Last trip some lame Filipina (yes Filipina) tried to scam me so I posted on here. Next night in BC she came up to me and ranted about my post. I told her to go away and went home with a beauty.

Karma is a ***** for these girls and your reputation gets around at places like BC. If you treat them well (and I don't mean paying ridiculous rices) word gets around you are a good customer and they will come.

Honestly last time in June 2018 after a week there they were lining up and I ain't no Brad Pitt and I don't pay more than 400ST.

Negotiations with WG is a business transaction. Like most issues in life its a communication problem. Most guys are either to quick to pick up and go or just assume what they think will happen is what she thinks will happen.

Remember some WG are used to some men who are happy with seeing a nude girl, having her spread her legs, pump for 1 min and then tell his mates how good she was and what great sex it was.

NI.

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2331285]Hello people, please help. I will surely write FRs of my experience in KL.

Hello fellow mongers.

I will be iin KL for the first time and will be staying for 3 days. I am looking for affordable price massage and sex. Please guide me and will return the favour in India and Thailand. Here's what I found after reading the forum:

For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

Petaling Street. What's the scene there?

Spa. In Bulkit Bintang such as Sky River. How much do they charge, what is the best SPa around with services at affordable prices?

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]ACE is fine, you won't get into trouble there unless you refused to pay the girl. Don't get scammed into paying more than RM80 a pop.

Bukit Bintang you can go to Hokkaido (former Skyriver), Green Elephant, Saboon, etc. Plenty and all pretty safe.

Or else do incall / outcalls through the many websites available.

Met up with Alexa (in the classifieds) for a romp. She's a Filipino in her late 20's / early 30's that operates out of a rather large condo, invites me in, sit down for a chat, then into the shower, then a massage, then a fuck.

You can contact her via whatsapp, she does provide blurred face pics.

The whole experience felt unrushed at some points but she didn't enjoy sex so that part was rushed, and her moans and sex talk are something lifted out of a cheap 80's porno. Kudos to her for making for making an effort. I think we just didn't click and she wasn't my type, hence I did not enjoy the experience but I was horny and fucked her good. All done and good, I showered and left, doubtful I would return. Although if you like short spinners with a tight pussy, dark face, and a south east Asian face, you might be in for a treat.

YMMV.

Hi,

Been to KL couple of times so little familiar with BC club. Last year I went to couple of Indian dance Bar near Intercontinental hotel but could not check for pick up scene. If anyone has any clues for the scene their please give me some tips on where to go.

Hi,

A new member to the forum. Going to KL for 4 days. Any possibility to find Russians, Ukrainians or Latinas?

Will write a report after the trip!!

If contacts needed in Sri Lanka can assist for now.

Got the hotel folks to get me a nuru massage, you can ask them for leads on a nuru or B2B massage. Lady from China came, she was young, tall, and looked fertile to boot. Gave me a nice massage that got me hard so I asked to fuck her, it was 1 HR 20 mins into it then and we only had 40 mins to fuck but I said what the heck to the price quoted. The massage was pretty good, she was soft and gentle and pressed all the right places and gave me and me weiner adequate attention.

She had a banging body with firm tits, only thing I didn't like was that her breath smelled of pussy (it was likely just unbrushed) but she was hot and the whole experience was pretty much on the up side.

300 + 400 for FS, no kissing.

[QUOTE=Akumababa;2333834]Got the hotel folks to get me a nuru massage, you can ask them for leads on a nuru or B2B massage. Lady from China came, she was young, tall, and looked fertile to boot. Gave me a nice massage that got me hard so I asked to fuck her, it was 1 HR 20 mins into it then and we only had 40 mins to fuck but I said what the heck to the price quoted. The massage was pretty good, she was soft and gentle and pressed all the right places and gave me and me weiner adequate attention.
She had a banging body with firm tits, only thing I didn't like was that her breath smelled of pussy (it was likely just unbrushed) but she was hot and the whole experience was pretty much on the up side.
300 + 400 for FS, no kissing.[/QUOTE]I would suggest you are close to paying double to what you need to but up to you.

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2334066]I would suggest you are close to paying double to what you need to but up to you.[/QUOTE]And note the "no kissing"! Considered that "her breath smelled of pussy", it would have been quite an experience.

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2329573]
For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

Petaling Street. What's the scene there?
[/QUOTE]

Yes, Ace is open. Richmore Hotel is just another name for the same place. Prices are 50-120 RM, though 80 RM seems to be the going rate for most providers these days. Plenty of Bangla and Indian guys at Ace. The place is grotty, but there are no safety issues as long as you pay, and move along when instructed by the friendly mafia guys. They don't want trouble any more than you do. At Ace, I like that you deal directly with the girls, and that you can sit (or stand) and gawk as long as you want.

Not far from Ace, there's also One Stop Food Court (Jln Gelang), with a 100 RM going rate and slightly better service. Worth checking out, but it's mostly a Chinese zone, I haven't seen Indian customers there (not sure why).

Petaling is just about the most awful brothel scene imaginable in terms of facilities and service, although occasionally there are a few cute women around. Pimps are a major nuisance, and perhaps the women are a nuisance too. As an Indian, you have the advantage of a 30 RM to 50 RM going rate, for white guys they seem stuck at 50 RM minimum with some asking 80 RM (too much for a 10 min pump in a rat-infested craphole like that). Petaling has about 8 places on both sides of the road (past the market). There are a few other Petaling-style brothels elsewhere (Jln Tun HS Lee, Jln Gajah).

Unlike the low-end places in Chowkit which were notorious for theft (so much you could [I]expect[/I] them to try), I never felt unsafe at either Ace or Petaling. However, I felt unwelcome at Petaling, since I take my time to look around and choose, and most pimps and girls are jumpy and don't like that at all (though one or two pimps are chill and reasonably polite). It's still tempting to take a look, though given the facilities and attitude I almost never care to partake.

No massage in either of these places.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2334501]Unlike the low-end places in Chowkit which were notorious for theft (so much you could [I]expect[/I] them to try)[/QUOTE]The (in)famous wooden wall... :eek:

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2334705]The (in)famous wooden wall...[/QUOTE]The "glory hole" in the wall in a non-sexual meaning, hehe.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;2334757]The "glory hole" in the wall in a non-sexual meaning, hehe.[/QUOTE]99% of today's readers are probably not understanding what is the surprise on the other side of the glory hole, but I like this camaraderie among oldest KL diggers and ISG posters in this thread. :p

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2334501]Yes, Ace is open. Richmore Hotel is just another name for the same place. Prices are 50-120 RM, though 80 RM seems to be the going rate for most providers these days. Plenty of Bangla and Indian guys at Ace. The place is grotty, but there are no safety issues as long as you pay, and move along when instructed by the friendly mafia guys. They don't want trouble any more than you do. At Ace, I like that you deal directly with the girls, and that you can sit (or stand) and gawk as long as you want.
It's still tempting to take a look, though given the facilities and attitude I almost never care to partake.
No massage in either of these places.[/QUOTE]Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.

That's if I had a Lamborghini.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2334973]Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.
That's if I had a Lamborghini.[/QUOTE]Because flight and accommodation are paid by the employing company, but the bill of BC cannot be added to the expense refund form.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2335127]Because flight and accommodation are paid by the employing company, but the bill of BC cannot be added to the expense refund form.[/QUOTE]Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2335149]Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?.[/QUOTE]If guys with such a paycheck go usually with 300 $ hookers, maybe it's a special kick for them to pay 20 bucks / shot in a rundown cubicle. Just a guess.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2335149]Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?
NI.[/QUOTE]You are overly optimistic. The travel budget allocated to an employee has little to do with his salary.

Flying someone from Europe to KL in Economy and paying his stay there for a week at a 4/5 stars hotel with good restaurants is about 1500-2000 EUR. Add 500/800 for Premium Economy (maybe via Singapore) or 1000/1500 for business. Total say 2000-3500 USD.

If someone pays 100 USD for a girl every night (actually more likely 150 with ongoing prices at BC / TC), in one week is 700-1000, which proportioned to one month is 3000-4500 USD/month. Most engineers I know who are sent overseas for meetings or training are paid 2000-4000 USD montly net. I am not surprised that cheaper alternatives are considered by a few ones. Not everyone is so high level to be an executive or financial advisor.

Personally, I could not afford (or I would be irresponsible should I) to spend one week in KL drawing girls every night from BC, or even worse in Singapore going every night at OT, but I move to Batam instead of going to ACE. I spend less and enjoy more!

To EXSPAT:
Yes, the reason I was digging Chowkit 10 years ago was not to save money but exactly to feel that special thrill!
Said all this, I stay away from ACE and Petailing.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2335207]Y...Most engineers I know who are sent overseas for meetings or training are paid 2000-4000 USD montly net...[/QUOTE]Dude, really? ... in what country?

I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2335228]Dude, really? ... in what country?
I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.[/QUOTE]I am in Europe.

I said "net", having deducted everything. In USA, the monthly salary is ultra-gross, because one has to pay taxes, health insurance, retirement investment funds. The last two are not mandatory, but in Europe they are automatically deducted and shared between the employee and the employer. The good point is that if I fall sick and I cannot work anymore, I cannot afford an insurance anymore, whatever, still for all my life I can get say a heart transplant at the best hospital from the public health system without paying. Good luck in California if you need a heart transplant and you are POOR! I rather keep my lower salary, but at least I am safe.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2335228]Dude, really? ... in what country?

I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.[/QUOTE]What industry are you in? Software engineering or legal? I'm California as well and know big tech companies and top law firms pay interns about $5,000 to $7,000 per month, but most industries don't. Even at that pay rate, the net is about $3,500 to $5,000 after taxes.

I met lots of guys from the US whose companies flew them on business class and put them up in 4-5 hotels, but didn't want to spend a lot of personal money. You got to consider high cost of living, taxes, and family to support.

No need to criticize others. Each to his own.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2334973]Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.[/QUOTE]Not all of us are high-flying executives from half way around the world. Plenty of local or regional punters flying into KL on Air Asia for $30, lah!

Personally, I don't think that in our hobby we're NOT getting what we pay for, especially in scenes like Malaysia where decent service is NOT the norm. Better 80 RM for a basic quickie at ACE, which occasionally turns out nicer than expected, than 800 RM at Beach Club for what often ends up being a disappointing quickie too, albeit with more overhead (taxis, your hotel etc).

Regarding looks, more expensive places [I]usually[/I] get a higher number of better lookers, but you can always judge for yourself, and presumably only pick ones that appeal to you. Finding a diamond in the rough can be fun, more fun for me than finding what turns out to be a nicely made up bushpig in the relative glitz (but to each their own). As an aside, some nationalities are only available on the low end.

As for the number of clients, every WG has seen 1000's upon 1000's of dicks. At their level, it doesn't really matter if they average 8 per day or 3 per day. We're not talking Lamborghinis here anyway, but either a Proton for $20 or an old Toyota for $200, both with huge mileage.

Hello everybody,

I am from Southamerica travelling around and during the last days of July I ll be in Kuala Lumpur, I am staying in this hotel The Federal Kuala Lumpur in Bukit Bintang. I really appreciate if the wise members of this forum could help me sharing some information about how is the action near to this hotel, and if this hotel is guest friendly, actually I found some info about it, that is why I booked this one. My PM is open for your kind help.

Thanks in advance.

Victor Manuel.

[QUOTE=VictorManuel;2336452]Hello everybody,

I am from Southamerica travelling around and during the last days of July I ll be in Kuala Lumpur, I am staying in this hotel The Federal Kuala Lumpur in Bukit Bintang. I really appreciate if the wise members of this forum could help me sharing some information about how is the action near to this hotel, and if this hotel is guest friendly, actually I found some info about it, that is why I booked this one. My PM is open for your kind help.

Thanks in advance.

Victor Manuel.[/QUOTE]Well straight off, down in the basement of the Federal is a spa / brothel. I went there last year but found it a bit mechanical and grotty. Out on the street are various workers who will approuch some are more desirable than others. Wechat is handy along with all the other apps. I'm sure others can give you more information and details.

Am from Sri lanka and Pl let me know some good places to have full service around 200 MYR. Few years back went to a place in butik bintang they had selection with Thai Chinese Vietnamese Indians. They offer free foods also. But couldn't remember the place. If some one know that place pl let me know. Tks

[QUOTE=DamSam;2336666]Am from Sri lanka and Pl let me know some good places to have full service around 200 MYR. Few years back went to a place in butik bintang they had selection with Thai Chinese Vietnamese Indians. They offer free foods also. But couldn't remember the place. If some one know that place pl let me know. Tks[/QUOTE]Apparently there is a place where you can READ all about what you are after.

[QUOTE=DamSam;2336666]Am from Sri lanka and Pl let me know some good places to have full service around 200 MYR. Few years back went to a place in butik bintang they had selection with Thai Chinese Vietnamese Indians. They offer free foods also. But couldn't remember the place. If some one know that place pl let me know. Tks[/QUOTE]Mostly likely skyriver, do a search here for it and report back your experience.

[QUOTE=DamSam;2336666]Am from Sri lanka and Pl let me know some good places to have full service around 200 MYR. Few years back went to a place in butik bintang they had selection with Thai Chinese Vietnamese Indians. They offer free foods also. But couldn't remember the place. If some one know that place pl let me know. Tks[/QUOTE]Its no more RM200, most are now about RM278 or so. Most of the big spas offer free food. Skyriver is now Hokkaido.

I think you mean Saboon, now called Bond spa.

Others like Genesis and Cititel have closed down.

Or you need to go further away from town to Eastin spa, Crystal Crown spa, etc.

For Indians, SLs, you can go Petaling Street. Quickie bonks RM40-50. They used to be at Brickfields. There used to be a local girl there with the-boobs and hot body, great face. Unfortunately she refused to give me her number and is now nowhere to be found.

For slightly better quality go to ACE or Sup Chuen. Plenty of Viets and PRCs for RM80-100 a bonk. Some are of quite good quality. But not all of them accept South Asians.

Hi guys,

I am visiting KL this month. Would like to have some fun there in KL Town. How do I get girls for a night?

What is the average price for Night? Where can I find?

Please suggest.

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]Hi guys,

I am visiting KL this month. Would like to have some fun there in KL Town. How do I get girls for a night?

What is the average price for Night? Where can I find?

Please suggest.[/QUOTE]I suggest you read the forum.

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]Hi guys,
I am visiting KL this month. Would like to have some fun there in KL Town. How do I get girls for a night?
What is the average price for Night? Where can I find?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]"The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. " – Dr. Seuss.

Happysam brother. RTFF!

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778] I am visiting KL this month.[/QUOTE]Great Decision.

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]Would like to have some fun there in KL Town[/QUOTE]Absolutely, many options for fun.

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]How do I get girls for a night?[/QUOTE]No straight answer for that. Read The forum and decide what you fancy!

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]What is the average price for Night?[/QUOTE]Depending on the quality, between RM 200 to RM5000!

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]Where can I find?[/QUOTE]All over KL.

[QUOTE=Happysam;2337778]Please suggest.[/QUOTE]Please read the forum. There are no straight answer! Narrowing it down would be, SPA's, BC, TC, Bars on Changkhat, Street walkers on Changkhat, Shady Indian Pimp on Bukthit Bintang, Ace / Richmore, Briekfileds and Escort Agencies.

Only had experience with KL Star for outcall and was good. It has been a few years though and so many changes in KL.

Any bro's have good reviews on Out calls? Most post has been on BC / TC and spa.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Zippos;2338572]Happysam brother. RTFF!.[/QUOTE]I cannot agree more with you and NewImage. Wise advice from both to HappySam.
Then there is also DamSam, who (what a coincidence!) asked the same right before HappySam. SamSam will come next?

Arrive KL and went out to some usual places and found out some sad news. Hotel soleil is renovating so no more spa there I guess. They alwaya got good indo selections.

Went to ace, its so death. Used to be full of girls from young to old but theres only around 10 to 15 older girls there.

Deluxe spa was suprise to see some familiar faces there and elephant spa got some ok selection as well.

Wechat is death compare to last time I was here. This trip in KL is very quiet for me so far.

[QUOTE=SpiritsHunt;2339606]Arrive KL and went out to some usual places and found out some sad news. Hotel soleil is renovating so no more spa there I guess. They alwaya got good indo selections.[/QUOTE]Sad news?? Hotel Soleil has been reported closed so many times here. Since years ago.

Unfortunately, all the old places are gone. Search the thread for their names and you will find the details, about those that are closed and those that are still operating.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2339627]Sad news?? Hotel Soleil has been reported closed so many times here. Since years ago.

Unfortunately, all the old places are gone. Search the thread for their names and you will find the details, about those that are closed and those that are still operating.[/QUOTE]Should had said sad its still not open. The outside look very colourful though haha. But one thing for sure is the area got lots of ladyboys now. Have to said quite few of them look model quality haha. Too bad they got the same thing I have down south.

Hi,

Any bro know is 1 stop foodcourt and new peng hua is still happening?

Visiting Kl this weekend, the last time I came was in 2010.

Been 9 year, a lot things change.

Hi,

Does anyone have reviews of:

- Nancy at Amoi2 you.

- Shira (NL, independent) ?

For amoi2 you, if I want to have GFE, is the price more expensive? I should tel in advance, or does it work if I ask the girl to do so and then I tip her?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Usbbb;2340394]Hi,

Any bro know is 1 stop foodcourt and new peng hua is still happening?

Visiting Kl this weekend, the last time I came was in 2010.

Been 9 year, a lot things change.[/QUOTE]Still happening!

OK, doing my review of Nancy at amoi2u, a place that I went to fiven the good recommendations in this webpage.

[URL]http://www.amoi2u.net/klescort/kl-escort-girl-nancy-from-thailand-36c-ori-big-boobs-beautiful-young-friendly-good-service-rrcord/[/URL]

When I arrived, the "300 kg papasan" like LocalBoy4 mentioned, was there to usher me to Nancy's room.

Nancy's face is nowhere near the picture. She was sick, and face was not chubby and pretty like in the pic. Anyways.

The first thing she says is that she is rushing because there is someone waiting for her. If there is one thing I hate, is rushing. Sex was really bad. This is my second experience in KL, and both have been horrible.

Mind you, I even told her a good GFE and not rushing would earn her an awesome tip. All she said was "not today". After we finished, she told me sorry a couple times. I just wanted to get the phuck out of there.

Ratings and info:

Girl Name: Nancy.

Girl attitude: 0/10.

Boobs: 9/10.

Face: 4/10.

Location: 7/10.

Facilities: 8/10.

Girl Figure: 7/10 (weir tummy, rest OK).

GFE: 0/10.

WIR: NO.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2334501]Yes, Ace is open. Richmore Hotel is just another name for the same place. Prices are 50-120 RM, though 80 RM seems to be the going rate for most providers these days. Plenty of Bangla and Indian guys at Ace. The place is grotty, but there are no safety issues as long as you pay, and move along when instructed by the friendly mafia guys. They don't want trouble any more than you do. At Ace, I like that you deal directly with the girls, and that you can sit (or stand) and gawk as long as you want.

Not far from Ace, there's also One Stop Food Court (Jln Gelang), with a 100 RM going rate and slightly better service. Worth checking out, but it's mostly a Chinese zone, I haven't seen Indian customers there (not sure why).

Petaling is just about the most awful brothel scene imaginable in terms of facilities and service, although occasionally there are a few cute women around. Pimps are a major nuisance, and perhaps the women are a nuisance too. As an Indian, you have the advantage of a 30 RM to 50 RM going rate, for white guys they seem stuck at 50 RM minimum with some asking 80 RM (too much for a 10 min pump in a rat-infested craphole like that). Petaling has about 8 places on both sides of the road (past the market). There are a few other Petaling-style brothels elsewhere (Jln Tun HS Lee, Jln Gajah).

Unlike the low-end places in Chowkit which were notorious for theft (so much you could [I]expect[/I] them to try), I never felt unsafe at either Ace or Petaling. However, I felt unwelcome at Petaling, since I take my time to look around and choose, and most pimps and girls are jumpy and don't like that at all (though one or two pimps are chill and reasonably polite). It's still tempting to take a look, though given the facilities and attitude I almost never care to partake.

No massage in either of these places.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for detailed your reply. I will write an FR after I return.

Hi guys,

Haven't been in KL in more than a year, Planning to go in August. Not seeing many reviews about Beach Club recently.

Is Beach Club still operating as usual, with the usual mix of Viets and East Europeans with a sprinkling of Iranian and African.

I read a report saying that all East Europeans were gone from Beach Club. Are they back now??

Also can we find some East European MILF types in Marini's 57 or any other bar in KL?

Thanks in advance for the info.

Quick Hi from Kl. Been here 10 days. Go to has been Wechat, BC and general scouting around.

To fellow punters quick report re BC.

Have had 50/50 success with BC. Yes perf as around the world is going down. Plenty of talent esp with Viets unfort number of MILF types has increased. Less or no thais, not so many east Europeans, Iranians, not a Filipina to be found, heard maybe avail at Changkat. Base price quoted to white guy 500. Definite white bias in club. Compared to before less chance of GFE, girls more so mercenary, as said perf level dropped, due to price rise and 50/50 success worth coming when Thailand & Phil prob better VFM? Might be last trip.

Wechat. Little success for time invested.

A few days to go then full detailed report when home will be forthcoming.

Wish me luck. Will need it to get EXACTLY what I want.

NI.

Arrived into KL from Europe.

Went to BC to get over jet lag, enjoy beer and listen to the band. Had no intention of taking a girl.

Got chatting to Viet girl. No sex talk and just chatting. Then decided that maybe I had more energy than expected.

Ended up talking about a 3 some. She got a friend from Cambodia and agreed 600 per girl all night. Back to hotel.

Assisted shower with the two girls making sure I was nice and clean. Loads of action on the bed. Swapped condoms each switch. Missionary, on top, behind. Licking one girl out as she sat on my face whilst the other sucked me.

Slept together. Me in the middle. Woke up to younger one sucking my cock. Some more morning sex with 4 condom swaps.

Eventually came with one girl sucking my cock and the other kissing me. Don't normally do 3 somes and there was no girl on girl action but it was a great night and morning.

Good to be back in KL. BC was quieter than recent years but still some nice ass to collect if you look hard enough.

Greetings all from KL. It's that time of the year when NI returns to KL to seek out but not destroy the lovely ladies of BC and other domains. To fill in my days (I mean you can't go up and down Petronas Towers 20 times) I write an observational report of my adventures. If you like a read and my insight then take the time to read fully but if you just want the facts skip to the girl reports.

Firstly bit about me and my philosophy, MO to give readers perspective. Me, a few years off sixty (yep do it while you can) Aussie prof gentleman. Present quite well, quite big, athletic looking and WG's seem to approve but grey hair gives my age away. Travelled to quite a few Asian countries but more of a hobby rather than a hardened world playboy. Have definite ideals on what I want and believe being a student of your craft helps immensely. At my age 2 pops is all I can achieve on any given day / night and appreciate GFE more so than wild fucking hot sweaty sex. Preferences is for cute young girls maybe 22 – 28 range cute face, obviously hot body, can tolerate a little chubby, MUST DFK, MUST GFE, I don't tolerate attitude or golden pussy syndrome if so then it's a bye bye. I am a bareback man (yeah I know but hate those things) prefer to make love slowly and build her up – take pleasure in my work. Strong preference for Viet's esp from Saigon. Chinese need not apply. Indo & Malay maybe, blacks have to be exactly what I like.

Arrived BC 10:10 at that time 3/ 1 guys to girl, great thinks he but remembers times before when all hope lost was proven incorrect – did quick circuit – entry was 55 tonite? – initial observation – girl numbers down, higher number of MILF types, more Chinese, less fresh young farm girls, more Jap & Chinese customers. After circuit took up residence in main room waited for approaches. After a few looks and a few no thanks to older Chinese approached by Viet, 35 from HCM, face 7, body 7, nice to talk to but after a while thought mehr. She was a maybe but was hoping for younger. Told her early on that was not to be her night but she kept trying – prob told her 5 times to go find another customer but she wouldn't leave. In the 45 minutes she was with me I was scanning and only saw 2/3 doables but noticeably probably 7/8 WG's who were strategically positioning themselves. I was scanning and giving them the eye. Advice – if with girl keep looking – send a signal that you are still shopping, also if you do go home with one by scanning you send signal to other WG that future hook ups may be possible. Also she was happy with ST 2 hrs 400 myr after opening with 700 which was greeted with much amusement.

Also white bias was strong – got many looks and very few rejections – not sure if was me or was white bias but both girls mentioned pref for white man and strong dislike of Muslim & Sub continent races. They quite happy to go with European, English, Australian.

Anyway got up to 11 and after viet left had a few walk bys but then approached by slightly chubby and bubbly Cambodian. Now had one bad experience with Cambodian before so was cautious. This one did the hard sell and had my dick semi hard after about 10 minutes of chit chat. Then she comes out with lick my pussy and my arse and saying all those things that you want to here. She also DFK at club and grinded so even though she was a bit buxom she was promising a good time. Negotiations ran smoothly and was happy with 400 but I did mention maybe 50/100 tip. When I was browsing as talking to her she was working hard to block other prospective possibilities. Details:

Annie (Camb name Lihn).

Age:35 (yeah older than would like but cute face which made her look younger).

Body: 6 (like I said a bit buxom but knew how to use it) no bb scars, nice skin.

Boobs: the cup nice firm nipples.

Face 8 cute great teeth, devilish smile and tongue.

Personality: bubbly, talkative, not too businesslike, accommodating. Had shower came out in towel laid on couch naked started playing with nipples. DFK, said was horny.

Service: ST 2 hrs, DFK, BBBJ, loves DATY, FJ bareback – said what about condom for 5 secs but was too horny to stop, me 2 pops, her 2 big O's, doggy, on top, missionary. She seemed happy with her 2 big Os and cuddled and gave GFE. Loved my blue eyes and wanted my bby – yeah yeah.

Rating: solid 8. If you got this every night you couldn't complain.

WIR: Yeah but not on next night.

Damage: gave 400 she mentioned tip but was happy.

First night was solid but was a bit disappointed that young'uns were few in numbers. P.S. Number of girls picked up from 11 to 12 with maybe ratio being 2/1 by 11;30.

Should be more in numbers so hopefully choice may be wider but think numbers of hunting males may be higher too. Left hotel 9:45 to BC 10. Got to BC and numbers of girls was way down as to customers. Maybe 50/50 ratio so thought odds were in my favour at least. Did my usual circuit and waited. Approached by young looking Viet who fitted sweet country girl criteria. Wasn't going to rush things but so spent 1 hour chatting. Said arrived yesterday (she said) and did the "I'm new" routine (which silly me I bought) Didn't do major negotiations but DFK in bar and signals were good. Annie said Hello, in bar and wanted to come home but have learnt don't second night straight away. Sends wrong message to them. At hotel she didn't shower (bad sign should have made here) but was quick to remove clothes and jump into bed. Basic foreplay but when went to put finger in pussy she resisted. So obviously a WTF moment ensued. Tried again but started legs tightly closed manoeuvre oh shit here we go thinks I. So 2nd WTF moment ensured so then told her my expectations and threw in bareback expectation she say no pussy finger and def no bareback OK time to leave bb. I wasn't pissed just disappointed in myself that I obviously bought "I'm new routine" and didn't negotiate specifically enough at bar. Prob good to have wake up call to get my scam radar fully up & running. She goes on a bit and calls other girl "dirty" for bareback whatever- being Mr. Nice guy I give her 200 (prob should be 100 or nothing) but anyway she goes and I think shit waste of time. Its not so much the $$ but as I said felt stupid that I fell for routine plus didn't negotiate anyway life goes on. Got on Wechat and got another girl? To come over and we had nice time for 1 hour plus before I said bye to her?. She? Is another option I sometimes go to, to change things up a bit (PM me if you need details on other options here in Kl if you catch my drift) Ok details below:

Name: Apple.

Age: she say 26.

Nationality: Viet.

Face: 6.

Body: 7 small, petite, the enhanced breasts, shave pussy, tight ass, plainly dressed, no make up.

Face: ok typical Viet look, long black hair, cute smile, can do that fuck me look.

Personality: friendly in bar (aren't they all), talkative, wasn't pushy, allowed roaming in bar, bit of grinding, played the "I'm new" role well.

Perf: does DFK, does BBJ, was semi ok to DATY, prob ok with multiple positions, does do handjob, no to finger and no to bb FJ. Says all the right things but for me once they so no to finger and bb FJ end of story.

Rating; for me 2.

WIR: def not if you were happy with suck and covered FJ she prob would be ok.

Damage: she was happy originally with 400 but to get her out I gave her 200.

Lesson learnt: Must have scam radar on high alert and NEGOTIATE SPECIFICALLY in bar.

Got calls from Annie wanted to come over (read no customer) I was too tired but at 2 am she was prepared to come for 200 myr.

Sun Night 3: had dinner at Jalan Alor and was watching TV & computer and night got on so eventually didn't feel like going out. Thought Sunday night might be slow too. Been browsing Wechat – not much to report on this scene. Mainly Chinese as you would expect, few Malays, Viets, Taiwan, Phil's advertising their wares but back & forth is slow and usually in end they want incall and price above 500 so nothing fruitful here. If you want info on alt hobby & Wechat PM me.

Around 11:30 Ainee sends me texts says she bored and wants to come over – I am 50/50. Eventually I think maybe less hassle for me and good just to have quick chat and fuck & sleep. I hint at reduced fee but she still wants to come – things must be slow at BC. She says she is downstairs at hotel -I think she's playing games as got to hotel in record time from BC. I text her she is playing games and she won't be there. Go down and there she is – looks a bit less sexy tonite.

Anyway up to room – me 1 pop – bit of BBBJ and bb FJ cum ok but not great, spend ages licking pussy which she likes – I think she thinks she is on a good thing. She farts in bed after and it stinks – she says sorry but hey I know its natural but there's something like a stinky fart that just says nup.

Anyway I say time to go put 300 in purse which she not complain about and goes. You see, some guys paying 500-700 -got to be crazy or stupid. She gives me big kiss, sends me thankyou text after but I think she knows last time.

Details: as before.

Due to less sexy appearance looks loses points.

Performance: 6 ish. Think for most of time I was doing the hard work at DATY.

WIR: nah – been there done that – time to move on.

Been Wechat with Viet – looks ok on Wechat but 35 MILF so took things slow – suggest we meet for coffee. Short story – we meet I pay for coffee we chat – she like me – I suggest we go back to hotel – she say yes but first she need to go to shop to buy shoes – ok – we find shop, we find shoes then she turn to me and yep that's right – "You buy for me? You give me some money" Simple response from me " No" I turn and walk away. Sorry but if you try that shit = instant rejection. Oh well waste of time – go away shaking my head delete from Wechat. Damage; 25 myr for coffee.

Lesson reinforced: Met before, invest little, tread cautiously.

So came back to hotel. Surfing Wechat got to 10: so Ainee rings me bb come to BC – yeah maybe but no chance of $$ bb.

Ok off to BC at 10:30. Pay entry, get Pepsi, ¾ full maybe 50/50 mongers vs WG. Plenty of talent. Wander and look some familiar faces not so many older Chinese thank god. A few approaches and walk bys nothing appealing. Then Viet walks up starts getting friendly, ok lets chat. Move to table – usual scenario HCM, 28, been here 1 wk, I keep looking as we chat, she soon works out I not newbie, I soon work out she professional, I think nope not you, after about 5 min she gets idea and says she go wander fine by me. As I was talking 5 Indian guys sit down at same table and start looking – sit too close for my liking, one tries to talk to girl but she rejects him big time – ha I think.

Ok I move away from table go outside to quiet area because have my eye on Viets at top of stairs – here I work out is where quality is. Also in this position WG's will have to make an effort to come to me as it will be obvious they are coming to see me and negotiate their way past other men. Also good vantage point. Approached by older MILF Viet, very presentable, nice body and face but thinking looks too professional and yeah maybe good service but after quick chat tell her go find another customer. Now as talking to her notice other girls stat positioning around me, When I went to spot where quiet no girls were within 5 m radius now after MILF left about 5 WG around. 3 giving me the eye and 2 very high quality. Also Ainee walks past – I say Hi – she friendly but obviously not impressed. Hey bb you got 700 myr out of me and 2 good night sex so I think you did well.

Anyway a small Viet make a beeline for me, big smile, tight body but face not that pretty. Ok chat to me you have had the guts to come this far. HCM lives outside, arrived 2 days ago (yeah sure you did) she says want to see passport? No anyway she keeps chatting- very friendly now manoeuvres between my legs and touching smiling. She show strong signs of approval. Then she comes out with I go with you 300 myr. (me thinks geez that cheap – usual ask for 500 opener) I tell her slow down and say maybe. We chat some more she rub my cock, we DFK a few times, she happy with my touching her all over. I say Ok, 2 hrs, BBBJ, 2 pops at least, bb FJ she says yes. I check again bare back she says fine. OK for 300 how can I loose.

Now guys out there – why the f you paying 500/600/700 beats me. Yes maybe this is not common but IS possible.

As I walk out must have noticed 30 pairs of eyes on us – hey these girls know who you go with. Not a bad thing they know you are a buyer. Also expression on their faces was "like he took her?" Now Lee is not top shelf maybe being honest body 6, face 5 but young sweet 26 why o Viet, no bb damage and willing to do bareback – whose the winner here?

Back in room – she tries hard to become my wife – total GFE – wants by baby, come to Australia even talks about how to get VISA, asks lots of questions about my life. Sorry bb no chance- anyway could not fault performance -only thing not do is anal but I not big fan.

Ok Details:

Name: Lee.

Age:26.

Nationality: Viet- town outside HCM.

Body: 6 breast were smaller than like but nice nipples and rock hard when sucking. Tight arse very petite body, no baby damage, skin was not pure as Viets usually are.

Face: nice smiley face but be honest not most attractive.

Personality: very friendly, like I said wanted my baby, English ok.

Perf; DFK, Finger pussy, BBBJ, FJ, me 2 pops over about 2 hrs which is good for me. She does everything I want and tries hard to pull me deeper inside as fuck. I think she try to get me to unload inside but I finish on body both times.

Pussy: tight – says only 3 BF before but what does that mean? Got very wet.

Rating: 6 – well it was total GFE and she was nice and very accommodating but not impressive enough to get 7 to 9 mark. I think I prob like more sexier girl – hard to find balance of sexy good in bed girl and not too professional. Yeah I know I want it all.

WIR: nah but sure many would.

Damage: she wanted 300 – I gave plus 50 tip – She deserve it plus I think bargain for me.

Sat night ok plan was get to beach club early around 9/9:30 quick perusal choose something I really like quick walk home and get to bed early say 12/1 (4/5 sleep every night is starting to catch up with me).

Now this may be a boring read about my observations and experiences on Sat 7/7 at BC so if you don't want a blow by blow description jump to Linda review which follows. Its raining in KL on Sunday morning so thought might try to write a novel LOL.

So despite my plan started watching Johnny English on TV was laughing and chilling out plan to leave at 9 faded till 10 and thought better get my arse there or else I'll just get too slack and crash. Enter BC at 10:15 and its very low in numbers of mongers I though for Sat night what's going on. Prob ratio of 2 WG for 1 monger so knew odds were very good. Got drink wandered a bit and then parked myself at bar inside. A couple of Aussie guys from WA beckoned me over quick intro and I had some mates for the night. Shout out to the boys if you are reading this. Thanks for the company, banter and fun guys. Lucky bastards are only 5 hrs away from KL and can get return airfares for around $300 AD. Talked to another FIFO worker who comes here on a whim he says its sometimes cheaper than playing in his home state. From my home 8:20 HR flight and $3000 business so might relocate. LOL.

Anyway as readers may know I am a bit of student of our craft and I was interested to know how my sitting at a table with 2 other Aussies would affect my "hunting" or their "approaches".

Something I should clarify is my terminology so readers can understand.

When I use the term "approaches" this is when girl comes to me, we chat briefly but I reject. This lasts 2- 5 minutes at most and usually concludes with statement " I not take you home tonite so I don't want to waste your time so you should go off and find another customer" Some will try hard sell but once I reject there's rarely any going back.

"Negotiations" is where I have an in depth interview with girl and we run through terms, conditions and prices this lasts at least 15 minutes. I let her do all the suggesting, make sure she is happy with me roaming in bar, go for a DFK to test and generally try to work out whether newbie, pro and what might be achievable.

"Hoverers "are girls who come close to you and try to sell. This means making it dam obvious by giving you the constant eye, dancing seductively to music and trying to do the sell. Now I don't approach "hoverers" my MO is if they want me they must come get me. If they don't they are not that keen so your choice bb.

Now every so often I do a "cold approach". If I see something that I feel I really want to talk to I do hover near them and try and get them to approach this 99% of the time works. If I have to I might do a full me approach them but so far never have had to. I find the best method if you want to turn a hoverer into a cold approach is to walk past give them the eye and then move to a quiet space less public where she can easily follow. This area is usually outside near roadway and away from noise of cub and band.

Now to give you an idea imagine 3 Aussie guys one older guy maybe 40 ish smoker, drinker your average Aussie looker (in ladies eyes a prospect) a young would say 20 to 25 Aussie guy (in ladies eyes a very good catch) although he was a bit green to the BC scene I recon he could guarantee pick up every night for reduced price and get top shelf lady he prob would do even well at Thai Club. Gave him a few tips re prices, girls, MO, he went how with a Viet girl who I would rate as a solid 8 and sure he had a good night. We were chatting, shooting the breeze, as we call it and I was looking at the same time. I did position myself so I was accessible to girls if they wanted to approach Now here is a tip -I usually monger alone and prefer it to be that way but if you are with a group allow a space where girls can approach you without sort of having to burst into the group. So I parked myself across the table from these guys in a walk through area where I had maybe 240 degree views.

Now how did my sitting with other guys affect my approaches = zero percent impact, which I thought was strange. Why? I am starting to pick up a vibe as white boys have a distinct advantage and are seen a preferred option in BC. Maybe girls talk from previous nights, maybe I have a certain look, who knows but I would bet my house that I could go every night and pick up a 7/8 standard girl for 400 myr guaranteed. So Aussie and NZ boys, English, American and European boys if you want fun come to KL go to BC and for 400 you will be inundated with offers.

Ok so why do I say this- well the night went like this. Firstly Ainee from early on got the shits with me and wouldn't say Hello,. She knew I was there but I think she thought that after 2 nights together she owned me. LOL. Lee from Thursday night still wanted my baby and all night approach after approach- it was never going to happen as I told her the first time but she just kept coming back again and again. The joke at the table was she prob would accept 50 myr for the night LOL. Nice girl but as I said it wasn't going to happen. Now usually I come, peruse, have about 5-10 approaches negotiate with 2/3 maybe and go home. Well tonite I went through 2 drinks (note I drink Pepsi not a alcoholic drinker) so usually I hardly finish one before departing with a girl.

Tonite must have negotiated with 5/6 girls and had approaches from easily over 20 girls but hard to count. As I would chat and talk BS with the boys I would cast my eyes and if I saw something interesting would give the eye. Now remember my MO is they approach me so I was going nowhere you want me come get me.

Now in no particular order and names (what's in a name).

Negotiation Girl 1: HCM, 31 great tits and body, say 8 scale but I got the vibe a bit of a pro so I thought performance would be too business like. Was happy with 400, ST, bbj, FJ, even bareback. Fun girl and very accommodating in bar (which means let me wander her body and we were in a very public place) but decided prob a bit of a player so no.

Negotiations Girl 2: HCM Younger 26, skinny happy with 400 too. Agreed to all above. But wanted something a bit more chunkier so no. Also she was from Hanoi and you know my pref for girls from south and also she said she go to Sing to work after this so Mehrrr.

Negotiation Girl 3: Indonesian one that got away-should have taken her home, Great body super friendly and accommodating, happy with all negotiations even bareback (as long as not in pussy) she also was quite a bright girl too hopefully she is back there tonite if I see her and things go well think might try her. Why I didn't take her why you dumb F*ck I hear you say - well it was turning into a bit of a sociological experiment and I got caught up with the approach, negotiate and then send away I did say I wanted to drink with my mates and would find her later but let her go.

Negotiation girl 4: Well Viet came in the bar = sex on a stick, imagine body 9, great tits no bra, tight top, jean shorts pretty face, 22, she could command 700/800 easily, well had to chat to her. Gave her the eye she came over, all goes good but stumbling block was she wanted 500 I said 400 she puts 450 on phone (once again should have taken - dumb f*ckin mistake no 2) but trapped in my sociological study I stuck to 400. I don't like giving them any sense of control of me. She begged but then left as I am sure she knew that 400 was beneath her worth, she hung around quite a bit later hoping for me to cave in but if it was to be it was going to be the other way. Negotiations girl 5: I call her my Zumba girl once again should have been a strong possibility. A 28 year old Viet HCM slimmer body, very cute face. Happy with all negotiations (2 hrs ST,2 pops, BBBJ, FJ no condom but not cum in pussy, DFK etc etc) She loved Aussie man (yeah yeah) wanted me to take her home to Aust (apparently friend of hers had gone to Oz with Aussie man so I think she thought I want the same) I mentioned that in younger days I was instructor in gym and then she started dancing salsa in front of me and for whole bar to see. I felt a bit awkward for her as it was a performance in what was now a fairly crowded bar and it was obvious what the performance was all about. Had those take me home and fuck me eyes too god dam it now thinking should have taken her. Once again why I didn't F*&k knows.

Just remembered negotiation girl 6: Funny how you start writing other stuff then you go oh that's right there was that one LOL. Ok lets call her big mistake girl. (shit I just remembered another one -hand reject girl) ok big mistake girl Quite nice slim Viet comes up 28 ish fresh looking a little timid. She looks like nice girl and we chat she comes out early with take me home which I don't like too soon- find too pushy- then she says 1000 I make a point of continuous laughter (really a bit too much a bit of theatrics sorry) but wanted to send a strong message that this is mega BS. Anyway I think she realizes her mistake and quickly counters with normal opening price of 500 but she had done her dash with me. I semi push her away and tell her nup too late not interested you come to me with BS price like that you have got no chance bb. I know price in here so you trying to scam guys so fly away, Suddenly she gets all apologetic and you could see by her face that she knows she stuffed up but I wasn't buying as I said guys need to send a strong message to these girls that if they try it on then P*ss off. Anyway she pleads and begs and tries to do everything possible even when I said I usually go for nothing higher than 400 she agrees I still scold her and in a firm but nice way you need to learn a lesson. I tell her IF you see a nice white boy in the future DON'T make the same mistake. She sulks away after awhile but comes to me twice more during the night begging for me to take her once again prob could but mehr if she tried this once despite apology could she try something again?

Negotiation girl 6: Pretty farm girl agrees to all negotiations but I go to touch her arse and she pushes my hand away twice ha = goodbye. Sorry what's yur problem?

Now I think there may have been maybe 1 more negotiation with girls as some of you know the night gets a bit blurry with girl after girls esp as they mostly come from HCM. Its the different ones that stand out or you remember. And as I said easily another 15 or so approaches by mainly Viets that were rejected due to looks, age or just instant vibe. Now must also say despite 5/6 negotiations and 15 or so approaches had plenty of "hoverers" too. Esp tight little body Viet obviously you was trying all night. The good thing about "hoverers" is that the following night they might turn into "approaches' and they know you have plenty of options so sometimes it may force your hand.

Now what about the other boys the older Aussie had 2 approaches all night but he seem more concerned with drinking and chatting than girls. I think if you want approaches you have to send strong signals and body language that you are shopping. What surprised me was that young Aussie boy had easily maybe 4/5 approaches all night. I found that weird I mean I am closer to 60 than I like, greying, in not too bad shape but no young buck and here is this Aussie boy in the prime of his life, great personality, pretty good looking and yet girls seemed to prefer me. Honestly I thought it was weird. After a while he did get a permanent solid 8 who he went home with but is it older guys they don't have to work so hard or are they looking for possible husband? Couldn't understand. So I suppose you are wondering WTF with this guy does he want to FJ or not so this leads me to Linda. So every hour or so I get up go to the toilet and have a wander of the circuit (check out who what where) I find this helps as some prospective approaches park themselves in spots and don't know you are available and also previous approaches or negotiators might do a "oh he's still here" or maybe " its getting late maybe I drop my price". Ok on my travels I see this girl I would think late 20's early 30's, in my book just fits my bill full body, great arse, big boobs, dressed well, very attractive face and has a sophisticated look not "I've got a Golden pussy" look just classy (very much like my GF back home when she dresses up) Also there is something about her that says to me ok break a few rules go and chat. Anyway brief chat goes well then we get to negotiations and I hit a stumbling block she say no bareback- now after having 5/6 girls go yeah yeah yeah and then this one say no I go inside my head shit and kindly say well that's a priority and walk away. Go back inside and try to forget now this happened near end of night and after about 20 minutes think lets do one more wander. So I wander outside for last time couple of girls approach, 1000 myr big mistake begs me again but sorry then park myself near roadway for second time and contemplate WTF have I been doing all evening. Have I come here to f**k pussy or what. Anyway sophisticated Viet Linda comes along way to chat again. For some reason I feel a real connection and think ok if it has to be covered it has to be. She DFK me too so that seals the deal. Back to my place she has got smoking body really firm and with face and great smile she looks like a winner on my couch totally naked waiting for me.

Details:

Name: Linda.

Nationality: Viet HCM.

Age: 31.

Face: perfect teeth, sophisticated classy look, great hair, make up, could.

Body: beautiful Viet skin, great tight body, be cup boobs, nice nipples, shaved pussy, did I say great arse prob best I've seen for a while.

Perf: DFK didn't do that much unfortunately, BBBJ, was going to fast for my liking, threw her off and did breast suck and pussy lick which had her giving thanks for big O, she returns favour with BJ I thought F**k a BJ is just as good as a FJ. We rest awhile she tries again for round 2 wants to play with me (I think so she can go) but after a long night I can't so I tell her off you go.

Rating 6 ish (not as good as I thought would be).

WIR: At 6 no.

Damage: 400 she tells me her base price is always 500 yeah you can tell me that but hat means nothing to me. I pay what I pay. She tells me she goes back to BC its 2:30 I think so you got 30 minutes and you still want to hunt. Shows mentality of girls.

I crash and wake up next morning fully out of it with 5 hrs sleep again. Dumb f**k.

Now I must say that writing this report back in Australia that what I did on this Sat night was pure dumb. There were 3 maybe 4 that I should have either paid the extra money or taken home. Kicking myself now that I didn't take esp miss sex on a stick - she was like a porn star and all she wanted was 50 myr more. So guys yeah I f*cked up. Also rejecting so many maybe the word got around that I was a D**khead and just playing with the girls so my advice is don't reject too many.

I'm not white so I don't think I get the "white boy distinct advantage" I'm east Asian but I paid less than 150 ring for these ladies, granted it was not bareback FJ, just BBBJ DFK a session lasting about 1 HR.

The previous poster didn't post any pictures so so I can't say if the ladies he took were 3 x as pretty, but from what I read it didn't seem the sessions were 3 x as better as mine.

That was some report Newimage, very entertaining and informative.

Cheers.

NewImage, thanks for encouraging posts. How about girls on the right side of 25?

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2346320]I'm not white so I don't think I get the "white boy distinct advantage" I'm east Asian but I paid less than 150 ring for these ladies, granted it was not bareback FJ, just BBBJ DFK a session lasting about 1 HR.
The previous poster didn't post any pictures so so I can't say if the ladies he took were 3 x as pretty, but from what I read it didn't seem the sessions were 3 x as better as mine.[/QUOTE]Less than 150 myr for these ladies really? Where from?

No. Ladies were on average less than this quality.

So just checking you say you got these ladies for 1 hour FJ, BBBJ and DFK in KL.

So you took these pictures yourself or did these girls come from an agency?

Please tell me more. I'm intrigued.

NI.

[QUOTE=Questner;2346459]NewImage, thanks for encouraging posts. How about girls on the right side of 25?[/QUOTE]From my observation over 2 wks there are very few girls 18 - 25 at BC. I wasn't there every night over that time frame but I would say had enough visits to get a true sample.

Maybe all under 25's were at Thai Club with the rich Asians who pay them just to drink with them.

NI.

So far had 4 girls (don't count alternatives) across 10 days what have I learned:

1. Pick up from BC is certainty – white boy bias, Australian, being older helps.

2. As many approaches as I can handle – no need to do hard work.

3. Starting base price for most girls has been 500 up from 400 last year but 75% of negotiators will accept 400 with little resistance.

4. More MILF 30+ less young "farm" girls.

5. Unfortunately service levels are dropping dramatically. My strong GFE has only happened twice – girls seem more so than before focussed on $$ - yes before the money was important but now more mercenary and less giving of themselves. I really get sick of some pecks on face, go down suck my nipples, go down to straight suck my cock and then jump on board and away we go. In their mind the sooner they make you cum the sooner they can get out of there. Can't stand to be rushed.

6. Now the approaches I guarantee will go like this. Hello where you from? How long you been here? How long you stay? Where you stay? And sometime You work here? You come BC often? They say to your questions – wherever they from, How long you here- Just arrived this week or been here 1 wk – total bullshit. How long you stay – varies from 2 wks to 1 month at most.

7. Would say girls get customer on average 1 out of 3 nights. Annie who is very "take homeish" and I have seen her working the room says this is about normal and by her texts when she was talking to me this confirms.

8. Most girls prefer no bareback and no anal. Word soon gets around about certain customers. Funny how now Chinese girls don't come anywhere near me – suits me.

9. Best time BC – 10 to 12 unless you are a real partier and then after 12 some girls get a bit more desperate.

10. Now the all important prices – ok opening offer and baseline price is 500. If you a "whitie" you will get 400. Getting sick also of the line "oh I come here to work, I need money to "xyz", this is my job, I need to earn money, by giving you 400 I give you big discount, my usual price is 500/600 whatever. Well baby I work bloody hard for my money hard 500/600 myr = 170/200 AD that's equates to about 5 hrs work in my country. Now here in lies the question – so what is an hours or two of sex worth? One "alternative" worker from Thailand said to me but this is not Thailand you must pay Malaysia prices. Oh really does your pussy change when go to a new country – your service levels go up. And the point is also I tell them specifically If you don't want to come home with me and its JUST for the money don't come. I don't force them to fuck me. If you are "non white" I would suggest you unfortunately in my speaking to the girls pay more or have to deal with rejection. They will tell me no go with arab or Indian man sometimes not Asian either but some girls like Asian man for the usual 333 reasons.

On other nights I have dabbled in my "alternative" hobby. Those who might be abbreviated to Lb. Those who wish details can PM me. Variety is the spice of life.

In one word dead and apparently word is Mon night forget it too.

So the sad story goes like this. Been thinking getting to BC too late so decide to get there early and see how the night begins rather than getting there half way through. Ok so rock up 8:45 pm, know before 9 can get in free so cheap Charlie – place is deserted more staff than people incl WG & patrons. Ok so have to sit & wait. Noticeably there are a few WG around but I think more desperate ones nothing top shelf. Over next hour not a lot changes – I thought by 9 ish things would pick up but no boredom boredom boredom. Now few more customers and few more Wgs show up in that time but guys are eating and drinking and girls not hunting yet just preparing. At 9:30 when things are starting to pick up slowly I decide to position myself outside and watch incoming girls – surely by 9:30/10 things have to get going. They dribble in. Honestly probably 10:30 before you might say club was one quarter full. I went home at 12:30 (yes by myself – more later) and even at that time club was half full. Based on my observations and vibe DON'T go on Sunday night and girls tell me Mon is not much better. So if you are planning to come maybe arrive after Sun & Mon.

Now obviously as numbers were down so were approaches, negotiations and hoverers.

One Viet who was an obvious streetwise player came up to me and I said we are both bored so lets chat. Wasn't a negotiation as straight away far too prof and hardened for me & smoked like chimney but we had a nice conversation about life, death and the world. She was 31 had a hard life and we had a good chat. She soon worked out my MO so we were on an understanding. She had a very exotic look and did well on previous night – she was a real pro and new how to dress, act and hunt. She said Sunday night was always slow and Mon too. Tight body, had more thai look than Viet she said mix of blood from Chinese dad and Viet mum. Shot the breeze for 30 minutes then bid her farewell but she would "hover" at various times in the night. Prob come home with me for right price as slow prob 400 but never discussed. Would say she know her way around the bedroom too so would be a good prospect.

Throughout the night changed position but only had 4 negotiations. One Viet whose English was really bad so even though she cute couldn't be stuffed trying to get across what I wanted and yeah I know its about sex but I'm not the type to just fuck something that I can't communicate with. Another 2 who I didn't get a good vibe from and on another night prob would not have gone there. At the end found a tall Viet from Hanoi but lives in HCM, face 8, body 8, friendly but not all over me. She wasn't working hard enough to convince me so sorry thought it might be SOP with her so no. All agreed with 400 so esp as slow night this IS what you should pay. Unfort as said for each one there was an issue and as I have criteria then I left about 12:30 pm without a companion but that's alright.

Now also noticed esp between 11 and 12:30 when the bar was more lively got a lot less approaches and hoverers. Even got some "rejection looks". Hey its alright bb I have enough self esteem. Maybe as this was my 5th time in the bar they had worked out my MO, maybe it was just that night – the livelier it is the harder they think they have to work or maybe (I think) its that everyone punters and WGs are thinking "this is sh*t tonight, I'm bored, can't be bothered".

Also noticed some girls came and went – maybe to try luck at Changkat. Linda and Ainee were there last night too but were not interested in hook up but were watching me and who I was with. Noticed too not too many departures with WG's – so yes Sunday night you can get something, range will not be large but many doable to most punters I would say, price would be 400 I suppose but basically Sunday night is definitely "lows season" at BC. The trouble is now what to do on Mon if it is that dead. Try Thai Club? Know what will happen there – pay me to stand with you =LOL.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2346513]So you took these pictures yourself or did these girls come from an agency?
[/QUOTE]If I take a picture myself, then the name of the image will be dcim2098 or image00238 dot jpg or similar. Given by the camera or device.

The name of the pic won't be like his "reup-be-an-gai-teen-xinh-dep-non-to-minh-day-veu-bu-body-cuc-ngon-671105-original".

Mon night decided to skip BC and focussed on my "alternative" hobby interesting got incall for 300 and then did another for 100 more. Not bad value.

Tues night Ok decided to get to BC around 10 ish stay a couple of hours and then takeaway went not hoping for anything great and was thinking this could be my last time to step into BC as what I had found so far was quite frankly not worth the effort, time and esp the $$.

45 cover charge tonite, got drink, a few interested spectators on my arrival, a quick lap of the joint and then settled in an accessible spot. Tonight was maybe 2/1 ladies to customers and plenty of new talent (as was said by girls who I chatted to which didn't impress them they knew they would have to work harder) Other observations: once again nothing young, hot and instant eye candy. Average ages were late 20's early 30's, less Chinese tonite, over the night I noticed more Asian guys esp Japanese which of course the girls gravitated to like bees to honey. Saw many regular faces god knows how some of these girls make a living some who I would instantly reject just hang around the club all night and doubt whether they would get a customer.

Anyway surprisingly I was flavour of the night again. Had 5/6 negotiations, plenty of approaches and plenty of hoverers. At one stage after I talked to one girl as soon as she walked away another quickly made a beeline for me within 2 secs so good for ego, and remember if I don't like a hoverer then I give them the body language signal that its not tonite so approaches are always maybes.

Ok lets get to the girls. On arrival after quick wander Kelly came approaches. Viet, HCM hot MILF, nice face good body but I think older therefore player. After initial chit chat apparently I rejected her some nights ago but she wanted to try again. This time she did very hard sell and had my cock hard with rubbing and general "turn him on" moves. We moved to a position where we could have some more intimate fun and she was working overtime to get me to take her home. Negotiations went well, she opened with 500 but I stuck hard to 400, and in the end she was happy with that. Came to the topic of bareback sex and she said no, so I said bye bye. She still stayed, in the end she caved in and said up to you and tried to get me to pay 500 but I stuck to 400. She tried to tell me no girls go bareback here, but I said really, see that one, see that one, anyway in the end I said up to you told her I wanted to go shopping more so we parted she wasn't impressed as she spent at least 30/40 minutes hard sell and didn't get a takeaway. More about Kelly later.

I move to spot near the band where I had a succession of approaches Mai Lee doable 28 Hanoi Viet, body 7, pleasant face, English not that good, pleasant chat but she didn't sell hard enough to me- was touching me but didn't have those I want to fuck you eyes or actions. She was happy with 400 too.

Lee maybe 30 ish chubbier Viet approaches. Sexy hair and face. We sit and chat she asked for 600 and as soon as she said that I say go away. I tell her white boy pay 400, she not impressed but once again she wasn't doing hard sell enough for my liking.

Skinny Hanoi girl approaches who I watched try do hard sell to Japanese young boys but got rejected. Quick chat after 5 minutes or so asks for drink. So bye bye to you - am I a cheap Charlie? I just don't like them too pushy to get me to hotel or ask for things.

Now I think one more approach maybe but can't remember. Also when standing in main inside room had lots of hoverers as said when one left other would approach. Seemed like white boys were kings again, what happened other night who knows?

Ok so what happened - after negotiations with 4/5 decided to find Kelly and take her home - she said she was horny, she was in agreement and ok with 400.

So grab her and quick stroll back to hotel. So she shower, I shower (I like big reveal) like a girl who brushes her teeth anyway to bed a bit of DFK (not enough for my liking), she kicks into fast mode I say slow down but she on a mission. Grabs my cock almost straight away. Inside my head I'm thinking "dam wrong choice" I start nipple sucking, she gets hornier, I go to pussy licking she get wet real quick, bit of BBBJ from her and I go back down to DATY where I decide to test her boundaries. After a while when I think she is ready I come up and position my cock near pussy. Bingo she says she wants to fuck and pulls me in.

Now here is the BS part of these girls "Oh none of the girls here do bareback" If you get them wet and eager then their lust will take over and bingo in you go uncovered. But the funny thing is she then pulls out after a few pumps stands up over me and shoves pussy in my mouth meanwhile gyrating and squeezing breasts - she now is in semi animal wild lust mode. After 2/3 minutes of me DATY she gets me to lay down so she can ride cowgirl on top (Isn't it funny how all girls want their pussy licked and cowgirl? you want to get girls going that is the key in my opinion) I think it's a combination of control on top and depth of cock also many like to slide their clit against you to add enjoyment. Anyway after she has a big O she pulls me on top and I do missionary for a while till I explode on stomach. Now we rest and start chatting and then I make mistake of saying" so I suppose you go back to BC later" Now 5 min later she says "Can I go back?" I couldn't be F*cked arguing so off you got bb I give 400 to her (was it worth it maybe yes maybe no yeah I didn't get second pop but think it would have been a hassle getting it out of her) so off you go.

Details; Kelly.

Age: 31 who really knows with these girls?

Nationality: Viet.

Face: 7 good teeth, hair.

Body: 8 Nice breast, good smooth skin, very nice pussy got very wet, fullish figure but no way fat or chubby, no bb damage.

Perf: Well when she was going wild it was good but mainly focused on getting herself off. Overall too fast for me. Did a little DFK, BBBJ, bb FJ (as I said funny that) and only 1 pop.

Damage: 400.

WIR: if she improved her attitude and delivered more maybe but like most girls too $$ focussed and less service focussed.

So overview of approx. 2 wk trip to KL was = not worth it. Basically eligible girls who met my criteria was low, service was on the whole very average, only 2 memorable performances and nothing that I said geez that was great or geez I MUST do that again. Wechat was waste of time (except for alternative hobby) nothing at the malls. Quite frankly as some other have said BC now is full of older MILF Viets that know the game too well and purely focused on earning $$ It's amazing how quickly these girls want to get back to BC after pumping you. They do the hard sell in the club but fail terribly to deliver anything like a GFE on the whole.

So a few points about BC –.

Yes most nights plenty of availability but remember very much 6/7 rating MILFs.

Found best time to get there was 10. Forget Sun & Mon. Best nights Wed – Sat.

Most open with 500 for me but will go for 400. Now question is if I pay more would I get better service? I think not. Now 500 for WG plus entry and drinks is getting up to $200 AD – why fly half way around the world when can get pretty good service in home for that price.

Any of you guys that agree to paying 600/700+ respectfully, must have rocks in your head, just my opinion. What is pussy worth? For someone who has had enough over the years can't see the value in a one hour rushed session with a 6/7 rated MILF who basically just wants to get it over and go. Maybe it's my age, maybe it's my experience but not this little black duck.

Going to try Angeles & bang bang Sabang at Christmas this year but KL is officially off the list.

Hope you have enjoyed my ramblings – I call it the way I see it.

NI.

Its hard for guys reading your post to fully understand the magnitude of how the situation really is without pictures.

But when you say you are pay 300 or even 400 for a late 20's early 30's (I would dare to say late 30's given how well some viet women age), I have posted a few pictures of women I haven't fucked that charge the equivalent of 45 Myn Ringgets back in Vietnam. I haven't done them as I consider them too old and too "expensive" compared other gems that are younger and prettier. It is for this reason they to Kl looking for their white kings.

So yeah enjoy being the white king.

Hey mate,

I am really curious about Kelly as I think she's one I've been with before. So you have a better description of her? Short / tall? Long hair / short hair? What was she wearing? Tattoos? Any help would be really appreciated.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2347046]Mon night decided to skip BC and focussed on my "alternative" hobby interesting got incall for 300 and then did another for 100 more. Not bad value.

Tues night Ok decided to get to BC around 10 ish stay a couple of hours and then takeaway went not hoping for anything great and was thinking this could be my last time to step into BC as what I had found so far was quite frankly not worth the effort, time and esp the $$..[/QUOTE]

NewImage, you were a bad boy, eh? Now today 400 MYR = 365 BRL = 310 K COP = 4,125 ARS and 3,000 THB. By all means there are other destinations!

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2347070]Its hard for guys reading your post to fully understand the magnitude of how the situation really is without pictures.
But when you say you are pay 300 or even 400 for a late 20's early 30's (I would dare to say late 30's given how well some viet women age), I have posted a few pictures of women I haven't fucked that charge the equivalent of 45 Myn Ringgets back in Vietnam. I haven't done them as I consider them too old and too "expensive" compared other gems that are younger and prettier. It is for this reason they to Kl looking for their white kings.
So yeah enjoy being the white king.[/QUOTE]So yeah enjoy your pictures. I can post models from around the world that I haven't fucked either. Pointless.

NI.

[QUOTE=Canook71;2347104]Hey mate,
I am really curious about Kelly as I think she's one I've been with before. So you have a better description of her? Short / tall? Long hair / short hair? What was she wearing? Tattoos? Any help would be really appreciated.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Short, bob haircut, very good teeth, wears like cocktail type dresses, on the night wearing a green shinny dress. No tats, great firm ass, tits about see cup, very nice skin, Ms Barbie vagina, er er.

How about that' - I believe if you paid her well she would go all night. I was kneeling and she was standing on the bed shoving my face on to her pussy then rode me to a big O. At least she had good fun. LOL.

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2347411]Short, bob haircut, very good teeth, wears like cocktail type dresses, on the night wearing a green shinny dress. No tats, great firm ass, tits about see cup, very nice skin, Ms Barbie vagina, er er.

How about that' - I believe if you paid her well she would go all night. I was kneeling and she was standing on the bed shoving my face on to her pussy then rode me to a big O. At least she had good fun. LOL.

NI.[/QUOTE]I've been looking. I think it's her. What day did you meet her? Last week or this week?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2347049]Most open with 500 for me but will go for 400.
NI.[/QUOTE]400 for 2 shots, no condoms, BJ, DFK and DATY? Looks like I really have to up my game then.

Might be a naive question, but aren't you afraid of catching something from these girls with your bareback only policy? I'd already be worried about DATY and would have little faith in the girl disclosing if she had any STIs.

Entered Hokkaido around 5:30 pm on a Wednesday. The entrance is 2 large, nondescript glass double doors to the right of the "Hokkaido" shop name sign. The doors look dark as if whatever store is inside is permanently closed, but they are just heavily tinted to look that way.

Enter to find a staff desk with a woman who will unlock the door for you to enter the lounge area. All the doors are kept electronically locked and the staff communicate with each other via a hand free system to ask for the doors to be unlocked (this feels a lot safer in the case of a raid, I think). They all seem to speak Cantonese.

There were about 3-4 30's or 40's year old Chinese guys lounging around when I entered and only 1 guy with the girls, so I practically had the entire selection available. I was told that 9:30 pm was the most busy, so maybe arrive before then if you want to have the full range to look at.

I spoke English with Tom, who I found to be friendly, helpful and in no rush to get me in and out. He said there was about 20 girls (after 5 pm they've all arrived) and after a while of flicking through what looked to be hundreds of photoshopped thumbnails on his phone, he showed me the gallery of girls currently working. Apparently if you return the next day 90% of the selection is the same.

When you're ready, they take you upstairs to sit on some couches and bring out around 7 girls from each country at a time to line up in the hallway. There was a set of Viets, PRCs, Thai and a set of half Laos and half Cambodian.

Pricing for 45 minutes was 338 for PRCs and 238 for all others. Apparently the Chinese do Fire and ice and B2B, hence the price. Some Laos or Thai girls may give massage. Apparently most of them don't speak English well.

I picked a the most keen looking PRC as per Tom's advice that they gave the best service and off we went to the rooms after paying the 338. I think Face was 8 with makeup, body 8, boobs a bit saggy, but 6.

Anyway so we strip, shower and dry with towels (no catbath: S) She starts with some BBBJ and B2B before applying the condom and cowgirl. No kissing or letting my hands go anywhere near her vag.

She was a bit loose for me and the lack of feeling from the condom made it hard for me to enjoy it, although she definitely tried hard. I also realized afterward that there was no fire and ice service. Maybe an unlucky pick by me.

I think this place is a safe bet if its your first time in Kuala Lumpur and you want something low risk and simple. I felt fairly comfortable entering and sitting in the lounge area despite it being my first mongering experience. They serve free drinks and food and you can lounge around on the couches afterward and watch the Chinese movies on the wall mounted TVs until you feel like leaving.

[QUOTE=Akinkythreesum;2347472]400 for 2 shots, no condoms, BJ, DFK and DATY? Looks like I really have to up my game then.
Might be a naive question, but aren't you afraid of catching something from these girls with your bareback only policy? I'd already be worried about DATY and would have little faith in the girl disclosing if she had any STIs.[/QUOTE]We could have a 20 HR discussion re bb. For me condoms just kill the experience and yes I suppose I am gambling.

I have done my research on bb and taken vaccinations etc to do what I can but I would prob agree I am probably an idiot and just trying to rationalize my practice.

I do think there is a lot of misinformation about getting STD's but yes its hardly a game you should play.

As for upping your game just don't accept the price they quote straight out. I often think would I get better service if I pay more. Not sure. But then it gets too expensive for me and I would be better to play where I am.

In the end with everyone its your money spend what you feel comfortable with.
PS last 2 times I have picked up a real GFE for 400 and kept her for a while - young, fresh and truly what I like - this time not.
As I said KL is off the list

NI.

Visited Beach Club from 3rd to 5th of July (Wed-Fri), although most of my observations below were what I noticed Wednesday night. Posters have reported that Beach Club has changed for the worse over the years. I'll try my best to provide a fresh perspective as a first time visitor and someone who is new to the mongering scene.

Anyway, as I walk up to the entrance, Indian guy at the sidewalk asks if I want girls holding condom box. Later on when I was leaving he said he could get me Thai or Chinese girls and that these girls were all Vietnamese only. Having recalled what I heard about the Indian pimps on the ISG forums, I didn't even bother entertaining his proposition. When I first got there and was looking around, I was not 100% sure of how to tell which are working girls or not. I thought that some of the couples sitting there were sitting and chatting for far too long to be simple negotiations on service / price and some guys even buy glasses of wine for them to drink. I didn't want to offend some stranger in a foreign club by asking if I can pay to fuck them lmao. I took a seat and managed to strike up a conversation with a friendly Australian fellow who explained that they were all Vietnamese and that they were all prostitutes "because they're hot and we're ugly and they want to fuck us". I did ask one of the girls who confirmed that the girls were all from Vietnam and I didn't meet any non Viets, however I did hear one girl speaking Cantonese, but I couldn't find her afterwards.

The conversation usually goes something along the lines of "where are you from?" "what's your name?" "which hotel you staying?" and then "do you want to go back with me? I don't know why they are so incessant about you revealing your hotel name. Apparently telling them its a 5 minute walk / car is not enough and they have to know the exact name of the hotel. I later asked one of the girls why they are so insistent on knowing the exact hotel name and they said it was just a conversation starter, but I don't believe that at all. Can a more experience Beach Club goer please explain this to me? I feel like its either a safety protocol where they text each other where they're going at all times in some group chat (I noticed that the girls I brought back to my room would always be texting from the elevator ride up until arriving at the room number) or its simply to size up your wallet. Perhaps a forum user here with more experience than me can shed some light on it.

As it was my first night in Beach Club and I had already had a girl from Hokkaido that night, I didn't really go for any offers and was just trying to see get a feel for how low I could get from everyone. I couldn't get a single girl to go for 300ST, but some did offer 400. As far as quality goes, there was a large range of looks from 9's and 10's to MILF types and what I would call 4's. There were definitely more girls than guys there, but the ratio changes a bit throughout the night. I noticed 3 main tiers of girls that stood out to me while I was there:

-The top tier are the most attractive, being 9's or 10's and they stand or sit around looking pretty without bothering to approach guys. You usually see 3-5 of them (depending on your criteria for a 9!) as soon as you go up the stairs after redeeming your drink, clustered around the doorway and also those high tables. These are the types of girls who will not be the ones to suggest going to the hotel and will probably not budge from their 600ST / 1200 LT starting offer (I didn't bother negotiating with them any further as their price coupled with their lack of enthusiasm was a big "no" sign). Not a single one of these girls bothered approaching after I left to give me a counteroffer. When I was speaking to the girl I got for LT, she brought up these girls without any prompting and basically said that they feel like they may lower their value if they approach the patrons. I had a suspicion that they may show interest in men who look wealthy (I wasn't wearing any Rolexes that night, so perhaps they already knew I wasn't willing to pay them their price and hence the lack of interest in the conversation). These girls are also the selective type that you've heard of. I saw one of them just shake their head and walk away when beckoned to come over by two Arab looking guys.

-The bottom tier of girls are the MILF and generally less attractive types who approach guy and then suggest going back to the hotel after only 2-3 questions. Their starting price is lower than the other girls and they will probably lower the price during the initial conversation. They will almost always approach you again laer in the night, either with yet a lower price or to flat out ask what price you want her for. To give an idea, one girl offered herself for 400ST / 500 LT (weird ratio of ST to LT, I know. Perhaps this indicates their success rate). I didn't go with any of these, but maybe the service will be better, given how desperate they seem. I suspect the seasoned mongers go with these types as they can probably get a whole lot of performance out of them.

-I'd say nearly half of the girls fell into the mid range category. Your typical 6-8/10 types. These seemed to be the more friendly types who chat with guys for a while and even have a drink or two before going out with them. Some of the prices I got include 400ST /1000 LT, 400ST /700 LT, 600ST /1200 LT, 700ST /1000 LT (she offered 1200, then dropped to 1000 in the same breath).

-There are also those girls who dance with their friends on the dancefloor. I'm not sure what their strategy is in staying exclusively there as it is the furthest from the entrance and very few guys will see them (its hard to get a look at the dance floor girls when the discoball or whatever the fuck it is constantly flashing rays of colored lights all over). Its also way too fucking loud near the live band to strike up a conversation.

On my first night I actually did see a group of maybe 5 blonde girls sitting at a table on the lowest area near the entry from from everyone else. They looked very out of place there and I assumed that they had come here not realizing and being disappointed that it was a pickup joint for punters and Vietnamese freelancers. I also did see two Caucasian couples on a double date looking very awkward as they sat silently at an indoor table. I'm guessing they also caught on to the nature of this place very quickly.

Spoke to Indian looking guy when I saw a girl walk away from him and he said "its 200 ringgit for 2 hours fuck and suck. That's the price". I wonder how much luck he had with these girls in the end given his ethnic disadvantage and budget, haha. Thinking back on Skyriver / Hokkaido though, that does actually sound like a reasonable price. For 45 minutes they charge 238 there for Thai Vietnamese Cambodian and Laos girls and 338 for PRC and they include a room, drinks and even a meal. I've heard the friendly staff there are also fairly receptive to complaints as well. I always found the Skyriver pricing a bit odd, but perhaps they've pegged the prices at 238/338 as the 38 is approximately the cover charge of Beach Club, which would make the girls' fees 200. Anyway thinking back on it now, I find it a bit harder to justify the prices in Beach Club. If anything, they ought to charge less since they don't have to pay for a pimp or room. I suppose the girls there do speak a bit of English unlike Skyriver and you can negotiate exactly what you want. The girls at Beach Club were noticeably younger than Skyriver too, but those cuter ones obviously cost (or quote) higher prices.

Overall I actually liked the place quite a bit. The girls were decent quality with enough girls to find at least a few to fit your fancy and it was really something for me to watch the approaches, negotiations and happy couples walking out of the club. If only I had visited some years back when it is said the performance was higher and the prices lower.

Ultimately the lives of these girls really fascinated me and there were so many more questions I wanted to ask them:

Is it common or accepted for Vietnamese girls to freelance?

Do people in their home country assume the worst when they tell people they went overseas to for a month?

Do they not think that sleeping with so many random guys will affect their ability to form a family later in life or do they just not think ahead?

What do their families think? Surely they must know why they are going overseas for a month and returning with lots of money.

Does it affect their ability to find a prospective boyfriend when they return?

Are most of them already experienced in working similar jobs (KTV, BMD, FL etc) back in their home country before they venture out abroad?

If anyone knows of a Report of Distinction on the forum covering these basic things then please do let me know. It would do me well to know the priorities of these girls.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2346516]So far had 4 girls (don't count alternatives) across 10 days what have I learned:
7. Would say girls get customer on average 1 out of 3 nights. Annie who is very "take homeish" and I have seen her working the room says this is about normal and by her texts when she was talking to me this confirms.
[/QUOTE]1 customer every 3 nights estimate given seems very unlikely. If they're getting a customer for 400-500 every 3 nights then 30% their income is getting eaten up by cover charges, which seems unlikely. Maybe for the less attractive girls? But even then I doubt a customer in 1 of 3 nights would make it a tenable long term gig for them.

There were a few (midrange) girls I met who I witnessed taking out at least one guy per night while I was there, usually at least 2. They werent necessarily the most beautiful, but they approached more guys and had decent english so they were the type to hit it off and have a conversation with the guys instead of launching straight into "do you want to go back to hotel?" after 3 lines of dialogue.

My feel is that for an average looking, mid 20's to early 30's Beach Club viet who can speak english and isn't shy about approaching guys, 2+ patrons per night is the norm. This was confirmed by my LT girl who said that most girls get 2-3 patreon per night.

Yes, they are very mercantile and will go straight back to the club after you've done and paid, but when a 1 hour session with a guy pays the equivalent of 2 weeks full time wages in their home country, its easy to understand why. Personally I'm more impressed by how they can stomach getting used by so many unattractive (and probably not very nice) guys every night. A lot of these girls are far above average looks and will have a high self esteem. Surely that takes a toll and I can't imagine doing that daily for a month.

Now with people like NewImage and many others claiming that Beach Club (and Kuala Lumpur generally) is not what it used to be, where has all the quality gone? I visited both Kuala Lumpur and Singapore and thought that Beach Club was the best of what I saw on my entire trip.

I assume that the primary markets like Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia haven't changed?

As has been mentioned in Reports of Distinction before, just direct your Grab driver to Pudu Wet Market and you should get there within a few minutes walk. Google Maps for Richmoore Hotel should guide you to the approximate vicinity, after that just look for the look for the glass walled building with the "ACE" sign (see pictured). You won't see the Richmoore Hotel sign as depicted in Google Maps as that sign is on the other side of the building. You will walk under the covered pathway between 2 of the buildings past a few restaurants and people sitting around on plastic chairs. Take a left turn and you should enter into a long, dark hallway with broken down escalators in the middle. At this point, do not take any photographs as there is a sign on the escalator prohibiting photography. Its hard to miss as there are 3 tiled steps before the escalator and some red lanterns hanging from the ceiling also. There is a table to the right of the foot of the escalator where the Cantonese hotel mafia sits. Try and look natural if you want, but the guys sitting around the foot of the elevator size up everyone entering and will probably know if it is your first time there. They definitely know what goes on upstairs.

Holy fucking shit this place is amazing. My first thought upon walking up the escalators. How interesting! Its packed full of at least 20 working girls and 40+ year old (mostly chinese) men sitting around and is unmistakably a redlight area. This is blatantly a pickup area. No wonder the guys downstairs are so aggressive about entry. I guess the younger men have higher standards since I don't see any guys under 40 years old and the guys here are the lower income males, probably from the local Pudu area.

A Chinese Woman by the escalator grabs my arm as I come walk off the escalator so shake her off and sit in the nearest empty seat to avoid any more of those approaches. A few more girls approach me and I gesture for them that I'm not interested, including a girl who I thought was pestering me for blowjob offer was actually asking me what drink I want to buy (the gesture for drinking from a cup is quite similar to blowjob gesture, I swear! I realized shortly afterward that she is probably a waitress since she is dressed in jeans with a fanny pack and is going around collecting finished drinks. Another waitress approaches me and I realise she is asking me if I want to buy a beer. I think she pointed to bar to try and get me to understand and one of the bar guys starts approaching me whilst strobing me with a flashlight. Anyway I order a coke and as she walks off the guy with the flashlight stops approaching and starts chatting with another staff whilst keeping an eye on me. Perhaps you aren't forced to buy a drink if you don't take up a table like I did. On a side note, there is an LED sign saying 40 Sen charge to use the toilets, can't imagine how seedy the bathrooms on the food court levels would be.

I went there at about 5 pm and from what I could tell, these girls are far below the quality at Beach Club. I daresay most of these girls are 35+ years old. Probably not to different from the quality I saw at Onestop Food Court / Sap Chuen. (I've also attached photos looking at and out from, the main entrance of Onestop as I didn't partake there and so won't be writing any report on it. Maybe that will help future mongers, I don't know.).

I flagged up vietnamese Ailing for a 30 minute session. To my surprise she offered 80 and not 100 to start with. I countered with 60 and we agreed on 70. We went up the stairwell and caught the lift the to level 6 (not on ground floor like others have reported) sharing the elevator with another punter & girl whilst avoiding eye contact. In through the bars around the doors and she locks them behind us as we enter. Seems to be a shared apartment with other girls from what I can tell. I undress her and she starts off with a bit of BBBJ (in retrospect, I should have insisted condoms first when I realized how seedy this place was, more on this later). No shower to start with at Ace. Instead she uses a wet wipe and spits before putting the condom on. Anyway she starts off with cowgirl and I notice her vag smelled kind of bad and I got a good whiff every time she slammed her body down on me, which really detracted from the experience. She also didn't use her legs to stop and dropped her whole weight on me every thrust so I got to feel her full weight crashing down on me. She was a small girl for sure, but the weight of her whole body slapping on my thighs was pretty unpleasant. I guess these girls are constantly tired with the amount of men that come to see them every day. We change positions and as soon as I pull out, I see what appears to be 2 splotches of dried semen on the condom. WTF?! I immediately begin to regret fingering her earlier and especially regret having her lips on she skin of my glans a few minutes ago. I'm assuming she brushes her teeth after every session, but I don't want to imagine how many STIs are in that crowd of 40-50 year old men in the food court downstairs.

I will myself to finish up as quickly as I can and she goes off to the bathroom and then its my turn to wash up. The bathroom is kind of dirty, but serviceable with a detachable shower head. Interestingly they have those giant drums of water you often see in poorer parts of Asia with a plastic ladle. Seems like a recipe for contamination with all the men going through that bathroom. Anyway I wash up as best I can, trying my hardest not to make contact between my genitals and the fingers on my left hand, which have been up her snatch. As I'm drying myself with the towel that countless other men have used since the last laundry cycle, I start to re-evaluate my life choices and wonder about the chances of me coming out of this one without catching any diseases. Back in the room I get dressed, pay her and go downstairs. I tried to ask her how many clients she got daily, but she wasn't keen on disclosing that.

WIR? I honestly can't see myself being desperate enough to return to Ace. The options at Skyriver / Hokkaido and Beach Club are worth the extra money to a new monger like me. Worth a visit just to see the place though, in my opinion. If you're a hardened monger you may have a hankering for these kinds of quick and dirty spots.