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[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2976988]I betcha 20 years from now, dudes are going to say these days were the best. Just saying.[/QUOTE]You are correct. The reason they will say it was better now is because it is better now than it will be in 20 years. That will be true of nearly every place that is active now. Those who refer to this as "living in the past" have one thing in common. Most weren't in Thailand 20-30 years ago. Of course a few veterans who were in Thailand will disagree with this and I respect their opinions. I do not respect the opinions of recent arrivals that didn't experience the past. Especially those with inflamed egos that constantly brag about their exploits while putting others down. Heck, I remember when the Amsterdam window girls were fun to visit.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977104]It's called "the novelty wears off over time."

The first time I went to Soi 6, it was amazing. Each successive visit, less so.

I haven't gone there for at least a year now.[/QUOTE]The novelty of it does wear off over time. I remember how my wingman and I were in stunned disbelief over our first night in walking street. The sights, sounds, and the girls were unimaginable. I only visit there once or twice a week now when in town.

Been posted up in Pattaya for more than a minute. Been to Soi 6 less than a half dozen times. It is NOTHING to write home about after your first visit. Now [B]Gentlemen's Clubs[/B] are a completely different story. Those are my spots. When I go out, never takes a visit to more than two to find me a girl I want to hire as my prostitute.

[B]Ballin like a Gent's Club Pro![/B]!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977104]It's called "the novelty wears off over time."

The first time I went to Soi 6, it was amazing. Each successive visit, less so.

I haven't gone there for at least a year now.[/QUOTE]

I have plenty of girls asking for repeat appointments to see me. Only the best performers get a return visit!

If I rewind my life back 20 - 30 years, I am physically and mentally better, stronger, faster than I am now. I could run around my backhand and smash a monster forehand down the line for a winner against my opponent. Now I cannot even play singles. I play the same type of tennis I used to laugh as when I saw people who are my age now playing back then. I could get my [B]Big Black Dick[/B] up 6 times to fuck and cum in six different girls in a 12-18 hour period.

My biggest question that I have is how after 20 - 30 years individuals posting here who claim OG Vet status have such closed minds and spend so much time living in the [B]Glory Days[/B]?

[QUOTE]In fact I think I'm going down to the well tonight; And I'm gonna drink till I get my fill; And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it; But I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture; A little of the glory yeah; Well time slips away and leaves you with nothing, mister, but; Boring stories of: [b]Glory days[/b] - [u]Glory Days[/u], [b]Bruce Springsteen[/b] (circa 1984) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2976808]I was in Pattaya 20+ years ago. It was pretty much the same then, except for Soi 6. And there were less Indians.

[b]I do remember the old-timers back then complaining that Pattaya was better 20 years earlier. You can see posts here from 20 years ago saying the same thing[/b].[/QUOTE][B]And you can see that today my man[/B]:

[QUOTE]You are correct. The reason they will say it was better now is because it is better now than it will be in 20 years.

Those who refer to this as "living in the past" have one thing in common. Most weren't in Thailand 20-30 years ago.

You live in the present only because you weren't there 20 years ago you [b]compound profanity in bold redacted[/b].[/QUOTE]The words above is the wisdom being bestowed upon us by a OG Vet. Problem is that the [U]Glory Days[/U] mentality being displayed causes individuals in that mode of thinking to not be able to live and enjoy the present. It shows me they are fighting the most fundamental facts of life itself: 1. Entropy. 2. Passage of time.

Got a few years on this earth. If someone up in here can tell me how they can stop 1 or 2 listed above I am all ears. I will have respect for you no matter when you first arrived in Thailand. I know this much: Twenty or Thirty years ago I did not have a laptop computer that cost me under 1000 USD that is connected to the internet that allows me to manage my entire financial life from where I am composing this post right now (my bed).

I did not have a iPhone that allow me to communicate with anyone around the world willing to communicate with me (but only if they live in the present). If you are still pining away for a flip phone (because everything was better back in the day) you might not appreciate the benefits of the tools of modern day communication.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1991591]I took from your post that you know a bunch of guys that like to sit around and talk about the [b]Golden Era of the DR[/b]. WTF? Immediately the Bruce Springsteen song "Glory Days" came to mind: "And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it, but I probably will. Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture a little of the glory of, well time slips away and leaves you with nothing mister but boring stories of glory days. ".

I'm ROTFLMFAO! No thank you. Not for me! I'm sitting on my balcony, basking in the sunlight, having a drink and looking at the ocean. My cell phone goes off. It's my whatsapp. [b]Some sweet twenty something wants to see me (and I know what that means). I tell her to come on over. And I'm supposed to believe that I missed the "Golden Era of the DR?[/b] No my brother! I don't think so. LOL!

[b]As long as smoking hot girls in their twenties are willing to give 50, 60, 70 year old men pussy then the time I'm living in right here and right now is my golden age[/b]. Tell your counsel of old men I'm not missing a thing. You can't find any posts where I'm whining like a girly man about not being able to find GFE (mine go way beyond GFE also); You can't find my posts where TLN is a problem (I have trouble getting mine to leave also). You seem like a fairly educated fellow (much more than me, you know, with your proper English and the middle class thing you got going on). Talk to them about a smart phone. Teach them how to use whatsapp and social media. And then they will see they can still, just using their finger, have the pussy come to them (roll the laugh track on that one boys).[/QUOTE]Can someone please hit the [I]view original post[/I] link and look at the date I posted this in the [U]Dominican Republic[/U] Threads?

[QUOTE][b]Subcmdr[/b] is a respected ISG Poster with over 4000+ posts in at least 6 different country threads. A renown [b]International Trick[/b] with years of experience of actually living in at least three different countries know for being popular for hiring prostitutes. When you enjoy and review his work you will find that he brings unique view of the present to you. He refuses to be stuck in the past. He enjoys what a location offers in the moment. Unconcerned with what OG Vets have to say while sitting on their bar stools in stained wife beaters and shorts.

He is currently posted up in Pattaya, Thailand. Where he enjoys paying to fuck the Mouth, Pussy and Ass of willing Thai Girls. His signature expression is:

[b]How you like me now?[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2977165]I have plenty of girls asking for repeat appointments to see me. Only the best performers get a return visit![/QUOTE]If you would have them come to your condo instead of meeting them in the bar, then you would essentially be copying my style. Over time, I have amassed a rotation of ladies.

The only problem is that I lose 50% every High Season to Farang customer boyfriends, who give them money to go live in the village, or take them to another country to live. Which requires me to find new ladies every year.

There is a difference between a Thai girlfriend and having a regular lady who has no problem if you go with other ladies. I have a dozen regulars who wouldn't care if I fucked another lady in front of them. On the other hand, a girlfriend is a wife in training (in her mind), and she is thinking about a future where she doesn't have to work in her shop or bar because the Farang will support her.

Of course, in Pattaya, a regular or girlfriend may have a Thai man on the side, since Farangs don't count as real boyfriends.

[U]OG Vets[/U] around here that are full of themselves need to understand something quick fast and a hurry and not get their thinking processes twisted.

[QUOTE]If you would have them come to your condo instead of meeting them in the bar, then you would essentially be copying my style. Over time, I have amassed a rotation of ladies.[/QUOTE]The only style you ever find me coping is that of [B]YyzTravel[/B]. He is true gentlemen that has shown me how to really live and truly enjoy life. [B]He has made my LIFE better![/B] Everything he writes on ISG is 100. That man is not lying on his dick. How do I know? Because I seen it.

[QUOTE]There is a difference between a Thai girlfriend and having a regular lady who has no problem if you go with other ladies.[/QUOTE][B]No there is not![/B] This difference only exists in the minds of some people that really do not understand the basics of relationships. A relationship is either open sexually or it is closed.

[B]I have have amassed a rotation of ladies worldwide![/B]

I know what a girlfriend is. I don't need a [U]OG Vet[/U] to tell me. Girlfriends are not special in Pattaya or in Thailand or different from any other place in the world. You see I define my own relationships. I have many girlfriends. I have, one in Colombia. Two in the Dominican Republic and one in Thailand. They are open relationships. All of them. Even my kik or my gik (I don't know how to define my current relationship). It is open. All of my relationships are open. Therefore monogamy is not a component. Once you remove monogamy as a component then all this talk about who the girl is fucking (no matter what title you give her or define her relationship to you in her life) matters.

This is the reason I do not need [B]Jedi Mind Tricks[/B] or [B]Vulcan Mind Melds[/B] while using alcohol as truth serum in order to learn life history and relationship statuses of the girl I am fucking. Worrying about if a a girl has a Thai Boyfriend or Thai Husband or Tomboy or LadyBoy lesbian girlfriend is [U]Poverty Thinking[/U]. It is also very negative and shows me a sign that the man who thinks like that has low self esteem. If I am fucking a girl that has a Thai Boyfriend or Thai Husband I am thinking that the [I]Thai Boyfriend[/I] or [I]Thai Husband[/I] has the problem not me. If she is doing it behind his back then she IS cheating and that is her partners problem. If she is not doing it behind his back then she is NOT cheating and it is not a problem.

Next, OG Vets are going to tell me because I am new that I don't understand Pattaya or Thailand. Nothing could be further from the truth. Simply reading the posts of certain OG Vets shows me that many have very narrow minded thinking. They have made up their mind that stereotypes are all true and that: 1. All girls in Pattaya are Bar Girls 2. All girls cheat on their partners. 3. All girls are are have been prostitutes. That they will be prostitutes in the future if the right situation presents itself. 4. OG Vets that have been in Thailand for the last 20 years are the only individuals who know what time it is in Thailand. 5. That is impossible for someone they consider to be a [I]newbie[/I] to have respect for them or for them to know anything they might not.

[B]Lastly, you will never find me taking relationship advice from a [u]International Trick[/u] or a [u]SexPat[/u][/B] Ever!

SubCmdr,

I don't think you understand Thai ladies in Pattaya much.

This is not an insult, when you have more experience in Thailand, you will understand.

Here's a question for you: what does your kik get out of the relationship with you?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977297]There is a difference between a Thai girlfriend and having a regular lady who has no problem if you go with other ladies. I have a dozen regulars who wouldn't care if I fucked another lady in front of them. On the other hand, a girlfriend is a wife in training (in her mind), and she is thinking about a future where she doesn't have to work in her shop or bar because the Farang will support her.

Of course, in Pattaya, a regular or girlfriend may have a Thai man on the side, since Farangs don't count as real boyfriends.[/QUOTE]Where do you come up with this stuff? The question is how do you get into these chicks' heads or at least think you are getting into their heads? Are your posts only about hookers? Because you tend to use ambiguos wording as if what you are saying applies to the general population. What you profess is 180 degrees from my experience whether hookers or non-hookers.

I have a girlfriend, but she always tells me to go out and butterfly. I do not pay my girlfriend and she has never asked any money of me. She works at neither a bar or a shop.

My cousin is in town for the first time and brought his actual wife and actual girlfriend from the States. They are all together. Nobody is training for anything or has certain motives in their minds.

Your relationship is what you make it to be. The relationship does not get into you. You choose the kind of relationship you want to get into. So you saying having a girlfriend or frequent hooker or wife is going to be some cookie cutter thing is ridiculous.

If I am pursuing a chick and she tells me that if I am in a relationship with her then I can no longer eat steak and have to give her godmother $100/ month, then guess what I am free to do? Not get into the fucking relationship! Enough of this acting like someone is trapping you into being part of something you are not signing up to be in.

[B]I am doing just fine in Pattaya[/B] My finances are solid. I don't have [I]Bar Girls[/I] rummaging through my wallet. My [B]Big Black Dick[/B] is penetrating the mouth, pussy and asses of Thai Girls on a regular basis at a price point that is agreeable to me. Like Biggie Smalls says: [I]I get more butt than an ashtray[/I]. Sometimes I bust in their eye so they can see me coming. [B]ROTFLMAO![/B].

I don't have girls sitting on my face nor am I getting on my knees while they stand in front of me to lick their pussies. I got nothing against guys who like to lick pussy. Even I do it sometime. What I don't get is guy who pay for that privilege. A girl that get the Big Pink Tongue on their clit is getting a unique gift from me.

[B]A 20 year OG Vet wrote this to me in the public forum:[/B]

[QUOTE]SubCmdr, I don't think you understand Thai ladies in Pattaya much. This is not an insult, when you have more experience in Thailand, you will understand.[/QUOTE]What more is it that I need to know about [I]Thai ladies in Pattaya[/I] when I am getting everything I need from them without them rummaging through bank account or calling me so much emotional or mental distress to do another 20 year OG Vet describes:

[QUOTE]Since you're still new there you'll wind up losing your stack, your gik, getting into tax trouble preceding your deportation, and you may wind up joining the prestigious [b]Pattaya Flying Club[/b] (google it you dumb motherfucker).[/QUOTE]One OG Vet says I do not understand girls in Pattaya. Another is telling me I am going to lose all my money, get deported and kill myself.

So, what is up with this campaign from [U]OG Vets[/U] to educate me? When I spend more time in Thailand than either of my [I]Educators[/I]. What is in it for them to constantly talk down to me and call me a newbie who does not understand Pattaya or Thailand?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2977899]Where do you come up with this stuff? The question is how do you get into these chicks' heads or at least think you are getting into their heads? Are your posts only about hookers? Because you tend to use ambiguos wording as if what you are saying applies to the general population. What you profess is 180 degrees from my experience whether hookers or non-hookers.

I have a girlfriend, but she always tells me to go out and butterfly. I do not pay my girlfriend and she has never asked any money of me. She works at neither a bar or a shop.

My cousin is in town for the first time and brought his actual wife and actual girlfriend from the States. They are all together. Nobody is training for anything or has certain motives in their minds.

Your relationship is what you make it to be. The relationship does not get into you. You choose the kind of relationship you want to get into. So you saying having a girlfriend or frequent hooker or wife is going to be some cookie cutter thing is ridiculous.

If I am pursuing a chick and she tells me that if I am in a relationship with her then I can no longer eat steak and have to give her godmother $100/ month, then guess what I am free to do? Not get into the fucking relationship! Enough of this acting like someone is trapping you into being part of something you are not signing up to be in.[/QUOTE]Given the nature of this board, I am talking about bar girls.

In general, however, if a Thai man has a girlfriend, and he goes with another lady, the consequences may be death. Farangs, not so much, because they don't count as real boyfriends, unless they are young hansum man.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977982]Given the nature of this board, I am talking about bar girls.

In general, however, if a Thai man has a girlfriend, and he goes with another lady, the consequences may be death.[/QUOTE]*Not* in the nature of this board, I live way up north near the Lao border. The number of Thai guys who've invited me to visit their homes *and second families* on the Lao side is mind blowing. At least it was at first. Now I've kind of gotten used to the fact that Thai men don't give two shits if wife #1 knows about wife #2. Seems to me that as long as both families are taken care of (simply housed, fed, school fees, etc.) it's just a shoulder shrug about the other family and that's the way life goes. The ladies don't make a fuss, and none of the guys seem to be fearing for their lives at all.

Different class of both men and women I suppose (not 20-something bar girls and similarly aged pseudo-pimps).

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977982]Given the nature of this board, I am talking about bar girls.[/QUOTE]So if you are only talking about hookers, why do any of your questions matter? Nobody goes to a dentist and worries about all these things. Why the concern if the service is coming from a hooker? We are paying to fuck them sir. We are not paying to worry about whatever other shit they have going on in their lives.

[QUOTE=Chop;2978150]*Not* in the nature of this board, I live way up north near the Lao border. The number of Thai guys who've invited me to visit their homes *and second families* on the Lao side is mind blowing. At least it was at first. Now I've kind of gotten used to the fact that Thai men don't give two shits if wife #1 knows about wife #2. Seems to me that as long as both families are taken care of (simply housed, fed, school fees, etc.) it's just a shoulder shrug about the other family and that's the way life goes. The ladies don't make a fuss, and none of the guys seem to be fearing for their lives at all.

Different class of both men and women I suppose (not 20-something bar girls and similarly aged pseudo-pimps).[/QUOTE]That's unusual for Thailand. Maybe it's related to Lao culture. I don't know much about that.

I knew a lady in Pattaya who became a mia noi (Mistress) for some local politician. His wife eventually found out, and threatened my lady friend, who had to leave town.