Pattaya Reports

I'm sure you've done your research but nearby Kinnaree is likely a better bet on Pratumnak Hill.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2027802]
I offered 4 k baht for all day, for a 2 day trial period, with a 4 hour break to go home and do whatever each day. Deal didn't go through. I'm guess 4 k baht for next-day+night LT (20 hours) ibar stunner is too low? I'm not experienced with the ibar scene so just want to figure what a good price is.[/QUOTE]I am surprised that you care what other guys think is a good price. It's bound to be lowball price. The girl knows best how much she wants, if she wants to do it at all.

As you say, the price for the average non-stunner is likely to be lower. How many STs does your girl typically get done in a night? Think about how much money she makes, then think about the inconvenience of having only 4 hours of the day to herself. She is going to charge for that inconvenience.

It matters little what others think, its how much she is worth to you. 4 K isn't getting it done. Is having all of a girls time worth more to you? Probably it isn't to me. I don't do these all day deals any more. I certainly used to many years ago, but if a girl stays with you too much, there is the danger of gradually turning into a girlfriend. It is handy to take girls with you on a holiday if it is a non monger destination.

Is your real purpose, purely to ensure that some other guy has not taken her and she stays available to you? A good reason, but you have to pay to keep the other dogs off. I know it is real annoying when you want a particular girl and too many other guys also want her. LOL.

What if she has some other high priority guy already and wants to keep her freedom? Might cost a lot to overcome that. What if she has a Thai boy? What if her period is due? Lot of possible problems to consider. I recall in the past needing to know girls' period times before taking them on holiday.

Try for a single whole day first, and see if that goes well and price is O.K. Then see if you both want to extend to another.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2027802]Anyone know the going "long long time" rate for an ibar stunner, or a girl who is just shy of being a stunner (like an 8. 5 or 9)? Said girl I want to take for a week is very popular with both the mongers and the locals. I saw her (and her other near-stunner friend) get hit on by every guy on walking street when I left them outside and to go buy something in 7/11, before heading to room. I normally pay her 1. 5 k-2 k for LT (sleep over, 1 pop in before sleeping and 1 in the morning then she's off). And I pay her 1 k for ST on soi 6 (where I actually found her first). She no longer works on soi 6, maybe has a sponsor or enough social media contacts for steady stream of customers.

I offered 4 k baht for all day, for a 2 day trial period, with a 4 hour break to go home and do whatever each day. Deal didn't go through. I'm guess 4 k baht for next-day+night LT (20 hours) ibar stunner is too low? I'm not experienced with the ibar scene so just want to figure what a good price is.[/QUOTE]To Parkviller.

I was at Ibar 2 night ago pick up a tall hottie for 2500 bht all night she want 3000 bht first very GFE, I know some stunner want up to 5000 bht but I won't paid that but some high roller will and they know she can get it so they will not settle for less, soi 6 most bar is closed down so most of the girl have move on to better things so now only the ugly one are left.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2027802]Anyone know the going "long long time" rate for an ibar stunner, or a girl who is just shy of being a stunner (like an 8. 5 or 9)? Said girl I want to take for a week is very popular with both the mongers and the locals. I saw her (and her other near-stunner friend) get hit on by every guy on walking street when I left them outside and to go buy something in 7/11, before heading to room. I normally pay her 1. 5 k-2 k for LT (sleep over, 1 pop in before sleeping and 1 in the morning then she's off). And I pay her 1 k for ST on soi 6 (where I actually found her first). She no longer works on soi 6, maybe has a sponsor or enough social media contacts for steady stream of customers.

I offered 4 k baht for all day, for a 2 day trial period, with a 4 hour break to go home and do whatever each day. Deal didn't go through. I'm guess 4 k baht for next-day+night LT (20 hours) ibar stunner is too low? I'm not experienced with the ibar scene so just want to figure what a good price is.[/QUOTE]What you said was very confusing. Are you saying you have already been with this girl for both ST and a LT, and you were trying to set up a trial period of 2 days. And, did you actually tell her that " trial period " with the intent for wanting a week with her?

If the above is true, and she turned down your offer of 4 K, then I would suggest that for whatever reason she does not want to go with you.

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 1 (Sunday).

Being from the USA, my standard operation is to depart from the US out of LAX via EVA airline's elite class, travel to Taipei and then on to Bangkok. The trip from LAX to Taipei is about 13 to 14 hours, then 3. 5 hours from Taipei to Bangkok, with a 3 to 4 hour layover. It is not an overly grueling journey when you fly Elite class and get to use the airline's lounge for the layover (even though the Taipei EVA lounge is not very good), but still tiring. By rushing to get in the immigration line, I actually made it out in time to take The 12 PM Bell bus to Pattaya if I had a ticket. I rushed down to where bus tickets are sold, not optimistic that I could find the alleged Bell counter than has eluded me for several trips now, but I went to the ticket counter to where other bus tickets are sold and asked where I could get Bell tickets. The lady, in poor English, seemed to be pointing me where to go, but I found nothing. I did go outside and found the Bell bus I wanted to be on, and I went to the driver to inquire, but the same lady who attempted to direct me someplace came out to speak with the driver, and told me I was too late. Argh. She pointed me back inside to get a later ticket, but I don't want to ride some old, rickety bus. That is what happened the last time I bought a ticket from that place. No thinks. I will stick with Bell. I ended up taking a taxi down to Pattaya and to my hotel. The trip to Pattaya went well but the Pattaya city traffic was bad, so we didn't reach the hotel until about 2 PM.

Normally, I try to rest for a bit, usually failing to actually fall asleep, but this time I did fall asleep, not waking up until about 6 PM. My plan was to visit the Full Moon Bar and see if Deah was in. Deah was a super hottie I saw twice on my last visit. Being so beautiful I figured she might now be on Walking Street, if not living off several foreign dudes. Arriving on Soi 6 via Baht Bus, I beelined to the bar to and inquire and was told there were two Deah's there, one of whom was sitting right there at the moment, and the one I think I want out but who might be back in a week or so. The Deah who was there wasn't too bad, with her main attributes being a set of DDs and blonde hair. I contemplated Big Boobed Deah, but I was in the mood for petite Thai and though I would save her for later.

The pickings along Soi 6 not too bad. As always, plenty of fatties, but there were a few nice ones to choose from, but no one outstanding. I walked all the way down to BR then turned around to take a second pass. A pretty girl at Foxy Bar, Noi, gave me the eye and she was quite attractive so I went over. I believe I have seen a Noi on Soi 6 before, but not this particular Noi (I don't think anyway). She had long hair, slender and said she was 23. She was dressed in black, with a black netting of sorts over her body, covering black shorts, but giving her a classy look. I had to wonder if that covering also covered a failing body? I bought her a drink and she warned up with me, and soon we were holding each other kissing. I was a bit apprehensive after I learned she had two kids, and by feeling her body I could tell she was not quite a spinner anymore, but things seemed firmed enough and she had a pretty face and was making the right moves, so I decided to go for it with her. Upstairs with the clothes off, her body was starting going downhill, sad to say, but was still quite acceptable. She took her time, gave a nice BBBJ, FK, FIV, and got wet on her own and really seemed to enjoy the session. On went the condom and, or course, condoms take so much of the feeling away, but it has been so long, I managed to release deep inside her. It was an enjoyable session, with going for the standard 1000 Thai Baht and the bar fine being above standard at 350. Fortunately, the problems of a month or two ago with not being able to use the upstairs rooms has been resolved.

Before I proceed, let me address my philosophy in my reporting about condoms and coming this time. If you have followed my past reports, a year or so ago I started reporting on my difficulty coming with condoms, and last November I reported on some bareback encounters I had, in which after trying for 30 to 40 minutes to come with a condom, when bareback was offered I found I could then come in under 30 seconds. Fortunately, I caught noting from those encounters, but I did raise a bit of debate over the practice of going bare, though I pretty refused to name those I engaged in it with as I didn't want others to go to them to demand what was freely offered to me. I really don't want to condone the risky practice of going bare with hookers, and I don't want to feel like I am encouraging it in any way by reporting on it. Nor do I want to be tempted in the slightest to go bare just so I can report on it here. So, except in some special situations, I will not report on any bare encounters, nor do I really hope to engage in many. I am not married, but I may wish to be at some point again, and a case of HSV is limiting in that regard. For me, having such great difficulty coming with a condom is so very frustrating that the temptation factor is high, but the one thing I do not want to do is to encourage others to take risks. I am preaching to myself here -.

Bare feels soooo wonderful, but not enough to make up for the pain and loss of freedom due to a said HSV infection. Anyway, do notassume Noi gave bare sex here and that is why I bring this up. She did not. Also, do not assume that if I report that I came with a provider that it was because she offered bare sex.

Sorry for that distraction.

After leaving Noi I took a baht bus to WS. I am guessing, but the time was maybe around 8 to 9 PM. BR was full of FL girls, with a few really attractive ones. I really had no plans at this point, but figured I would get some exercise in by waking WS a few times, grabbing a bite as I was hungry, maybe stopping in at the Peppermint to say Hi to the mamasan and see if Fon was working, then do whatever. No plans.

I did eat some fried rice at the NY place next to iBar, then I did step into the Peppermint. Going in there I know will cost me money, not because of bar fines, but because I have inadvertently developed a reputation as a bit of a spender with several ladies and the mamasan. There is one girl, a tad chubby, who latches on to me, and she brings a friend over, then the mamasan comes over, then the waiter or two gets involved, and money get tossed out, and I can wind up with a sizeable bill. It is not their fault as I allow it to happen, and I could turn the spigot off at any time but I guess part of me enjoys it. I can afford it, and this is the only place I am lose with the drinks and handouts, so whatever.

Last time I was there in November the mamasan had invited me to her birthday party, but I skipped out. I figured she would have forgotten by now but, no, when she saw me she came over and asked why I didn't attend. Well. But she was ok with it. While WS was fairly busy, the club wasn't so much. She pointed out some attractive girls and made some suggestions for bar fining. The chubby girl wasn't working so she didn't bug me, but another girl came over so there was three LD's and some cash thrown out just like that. I got out of there after just one round of drinks at least. I was actually not feeling all that well, being quite tired if not still a little clogged in the nose. I said I was going back to my hotel to sleep but actually.

I walked past iBar and found it comfortably full, but not packed. I guess we are in Low Season, and on a Sunday night it was showing. I stepped in to Red Car (or is it called Walking Street?? I will call it Red Car.) It was about midnight and not too busy either. I did not check any other places. Prior to leaving, I stopped to get some ice cream at that place across from Frog Bar to people watch. I saw a youngish couple approaching and the girl looked really sad, or was she mad, or. Then she literally projectile-pukes out a ton of frothing pink liquid. Fortunately she hits a drain grating, then she pukes again and yet again. Her friend was very caring and they soon move on, but wow. Strangest puke I have ever seen. Literally, pink puke. Of course, after seeing that, you have to sit and watch to see if anyone steps in it!

I then leave and walk back to my hotel on the beach side of BR. Not quite as many FL girls out, but I did see a handful of doable girls. Actually, I saw one that was pretty hot, but she had the look that while hot, she might not be that fun. I passed her by, then turned and crossed the street to return to my hotel. But it was not even 1 AM yet and I didn't want to go to bed too early, so I thought a massage would be nice. I went over the Soi 13/1 and found Ahm at Miss Massage. She was older, perhaps approaching 40, but a spinner body that was amazing. There was a younger woman there, but the body won me over. I have only done one Soi 13/ x massage place before and only got a brief HJ (more than that was quite expensive), but keep reading these places offer it all. Ahm gave a gentle massage which was what I needed and I was fighting to not pass out form being so tired. She started teasing my dick and asked if I wanted her to continue and it felt good so I said sure. But her clothes stayed on and she offered nothing more and I was tired so after 5 minutes of some nice rubbing I told her to stop. We teased each other a little after that with some very brief simulated doggie and standing from behind, but no offer or indication of anything more. The massage was 300 and I tipped her 500 for being a good sport, but I really don't know what an appropriate tip should be.

Walking down the street back to BR that hot FL girl came by. I guess she was hanging it up for the night. I was surprised that she had not found a customer, but maybe the attitude she projected ruined it for her, or maybe she already had a few. Don't know, but if I see her again I might give her a try. Anyway, back at the hotel I showered and hopped into bed, hoping to sleep until at least 10 AM.

To recap Day 1, Noi at Roxy for 350/1000 for a great, semi-GFE session, then 300/500 at Miss Massage for a HJ on Soi 13/1. I do feel a bit more jet-lagged than normal, and I trying to get over some allergies, but hope to be up to full speed tomorrow!

[QUOTE=Haven123;2028034]What you said was very confusing. Are you saying you have already been with this girl for both ST and a LT, and you were trying to set up a trial period of 2 days. And, did you actually tell her that " trial period " with the intent for wanting a week with her?

If the above is true, and she turned down your offer of 4 K, then I would suggest that for whatever reason she does not want to go with you.[/QUOTE]I think 4 k is a fair offer but you would have to catch her during a drought when she needs quick cash. Weekends and high season she would be less inclined. If she has no problem lining up clientele she would be better off lining up 5ST sessions a day at 3 k a pop. You've already had the privilege of sampling the menu so my mentor Mr. E would recommend moving on to another girl. She probably has Western Union boyfriends that allow her the luxury to choose when she wants to work. The best advice is the one the girls give which is "up to you". Do you want to get in a bidding war for her services? It usually doesn't end well unless you're a wealthy businessman. There is a darkskin girl on the beach who at best would be a and is on the wrong side of 30 and she pulls in 5 k a day and does not do short time. Her reputation is built on service. A Thai chick with top 5% looks would be selling herself short with 4k on a continual basis. A high demand or fair weather girl can put holes in your trip because the chances of them flaking is high because they have friends and options.

Syzygies made me realize that you have to take her out of the hotel / condo sometime. That's when incidentals creep up on you. You take her to the mall for dinner. Then all of a sudden your potential girlfriend sees a purse and some shoes she likes (or worse jewelry). Now your 4k date has ballooned into a 12 k date and that doesn't include the alcohol to stop her from getting bored. Seems you had a good thing going with ST and LT. Long long time makes sense if you're in an aforementioned non-monger locale.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2027882]I am surprised that you care what other guys think is a good price. It's bound to be lowball price. The girl knows best how much she wants, if she wants to do it at all.

As you say, the price for the average non-stunner is likely to be lower. How many STs does your girl typically get done in a night? Think about how much money she makes, then think about the inconvenience of having only 4 hours of the day to herself. She is going to charge for that inconvenience.

It matters little what others think, its how much she is worth to you. 4 K isn't getting it done. Is having all of a girls time worth more to you? Probably it isn't to me. I don't do these all day deals any more. I certainly used to many years ago, but if a girl stays with you too much, there is the danger of gradually turning into a girlfriend. It is handy to take girls with you on a holiday if it is a non monger destination.

Is your real purpose, purely to ensure that some other guy has not taken her and she stays available to you? A good reason, but you have to pay to keep the other dogs off. I know it is real annoying when you want a particular girl and too many other guys also want her. LOL..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2027559]Your story is very disjointed and hard to follow. Are you sure you didn't take a hit off that pipe? 555.

Just teasing.

There are some crazy girls out there but I never had a problem with a girl on drugs. Even though I am sure it is common.

Stay horny my discombobulated friend.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Tease as much as you want. Using the enter button is a big sin reading / publish here. I'm soooo sorry. Noo I did not smoke, she return to ask if wanted a recession. I did ask her to leave her knickers don't wanted in return.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2028064]Pattaya Trip Report, Day 1 (Sunday).
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[/QUOTE]If flying Elite on EVA is your custom, you might inquire as to whether the airline provides a chit to get in the express queue at Suvarnabhumi. Emirates first and business class do (present your air ticket to the customs / immigration). Keep the reports coming!

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2028225]If flying Elite on EVA is your custom, you might inquire as to whether the airline provides a chit to get in the express queue at Suvarnabhumi. Emirates first and business class do (present your air ticket to the customs / immigration). Keep the reports coming![/QUOTE]ANA also hands out Premium Lane access cards to Business and First customers. Very nice perk. And the Premium Lane is available for free for those mongers over the age of 70.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2028064]Pattaya Trip Report, Day 1 (Sunday).

If you have followed my past reports, a year or so ago I started reporting on my difficulty coming with condoms, and last November I reported on some bareback encounters I had, in which after trying for 30 to 40 minutes to come with a condom, when bareback was offered I found I could then come in under 30 seconds..[/QUOTE]A couple of thoughts, which you've maybe already tried, but in case not I'll offer them:

Try a larger condom, it can make a big difference. Sagami 002 large is a good option, and can be found in some pharmacies in Pattaya (such as the pharmacy in the shopping center).

Try more / better lubrication.

FL Hawk, dude weather you go bareback or not is no concern of mine. However I need to ask if you have your abbreviations mixed up? Because HSV is spread by skin to skin contact and is easily caught even using a condom if your partner is having an out break or if she is in the process of scaling which shows no signs.

I head to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] last night didn't see anyone decent all fat chubby girl when I walk past OM bar a few place down I saw a tall nice looking girl her name is mina.

She is new in town only been in town for 3 days from Rayong she want 2000 bht all night is early about 8 pm settle for 1500 and 400 bar fine very GFE experience.

Stay until 9 am next morning she is new to the game so I have to train her a bit but good attitude.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2028238]A couple of thoughts, which you've maybe already tried, but in case not I'll offer them:

Try a larger condom, it can make a big difference. Sagami 002 large is a good option, and can be found in some pharmacies in Pattaya (such as the pharmacy in the shopping center).

Try more / better lubrication.[/QUOTE]These are what I am using. Definitely need to keep lubricated or they WILL break. Most unreliable condom I have ever used, but all of the thin ones have this problem to some degree.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2028247]FL Hawk, dude weather you go bareback or not is no concern of mine. However I need to ask if you have your abbreviations mixed up? Because HSV is spread by skin to skin contact and is easily caught even using a condom if your partner is having an out break or if she is in the process of scaling which shows no signs.[/QUOTE]I am quite aware, and this is why HSV is so worrisome. As you would seem to indicate, bare or not, HSV is always a concern.