Printable View
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2034404]
Unfortunate, Kinnaree is made for you. Definitely way more your type than mine. Kinnaree girls would love you.[/QUOTE]Definitely need to find a way to work it into the itinerary based on you recommendations.
The two times I was there, once on a Sunday and once on a following Tuesday (both with our mutual buddy form Canada), however, I didn't find the girls to be all that great. But I need to give it another go.
[QUOTE=Savethe7;2034438]That really sucks to hear Christmas and New Years are bad since that is when I plan on going, I would have thought, since I assume most are Buddhist, they wouldn't care about western holidays so it would be business as usual. Hopefully since it is my first time and I don't know any better I won't be disappointed like you guys =p.[/QUOTE]It is still worthwhile to go and you can have a great time. The fact that it is the low point of the year does not dissuade me from going.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2034404]I didn't find it so great May 2016 which is the reason I chose April and May 2017 to be away from Songkran and low season.
This better include PP or Vietnam with Uncle V and I.
[/QUOTE]Wise decision BB to stay way at this time of the year as I know you also always look for quality gals. I would also recommend August to October as I found less travellers from my earlier experiences and choices are plenty. I was here once during Christmas in 2015 and have decided to never visit during that time again. Always found Manila and AC more fun despite being Christian country. Guess girls there need money more than holidays.
I plan to visit Phnom Penh or Jakarta followed by Angeles and finally Pattaya. Will be in touch with you and UV on the dates if we can connect during this time.
Coming back to short FR from yest, The Lao cutie from social media stood me up eventually. Good 1. 5 jours wasted. I decided to venture north as it was only 11 pm and ended in one of the small bars after soi 6 on second road as I spotted a potential. She turned out to be an ex WS gogo gal working in a small bar as she had been sponsored by a dude from Sweden. Amazing time with her back in hotel. Went to Lucifer and met 3 more of her friends and had fun till wee hours. Back to hotel and another round later I let her go with 2 k LT and good tip because that's what she wanted. She's flying to Sweden for 3 months shortly and showed me her ticket. Good for her and best of luck for the dude. Amazing experience, has happened twice with me of finding a gem in a small bar on north. Just needs bit of walking effort.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034577]
Coming back to short FR from yest, The Lao cutie from social media stood me up eventually. Good 1. 5 jours wasted. I decided to venture north as it was only 11 pm and ended in one of the small bars after soi 6 on second road as I spotted a potential. She turned out to be an ex WS gogo gal working in a small bar as she had been sponsored by a dude from Sweden. Amazing time with her back in hotel. Went to Lucifer and met 3 more of her friends and had fun till wee hours. Back to hotel and another round later I let her go with 2 k LT and good tip because that's what she wanted. She's flying to Sweden for 3 months shortly and showed me her ticket. Good for her and best of luck for the dude. Amazing experience, has happened twice with me of finding a gem in a small bar on north. Just needs bit of walking effort.[/QUOTE]Nicely done!! You are the King of the small bars and master of finding the needle in the haystack!
Second agogo stop (after Skyfall, where the lingerie dancer I coveted was nowhere in sight; clearly two months is eons in Pattaya time) I thought to hit Happy Agogo, if nothing else to get honked off about being ignored, and thus making all the other agogos afterward look good by comparison. Well, what a difference time makes. The girls' attitudes have taken a 180-degree turn for the better, smiling, making eye contact with farang alike. And then another in the chain, Beach Club, where I had a great time last trip, was nothing but nonstop begging for lady drinks, for "my freeens", yada.
The talent pool at Palace was quite nice. I nearly closed the place down. The girl I fancied was on her mens. The backup dancer somehow developed an attitude (perhaps not liking being the backup? Who knows, and I'll never ever try to understand the logic of Thai bargirls.). Ended up being stupid, skulking around iBar until fucking 6 a.m., when I ended up taking an Issan girl (agreed via her "friend" for "LT" until 11 a.m. for 2K. Really stupid of me. Though the session was just fine, the girl suited up to take off after the first shot. I convinced her to sleep a bit, and told her "then we wake up and do boom boom"). Well the girl's English was, of course, crap, and she seemed inexperienced in the protocol. After we slept a couple of hours she awakened and put her kit on. I then tried to explain that with no second act, that she would only get 1K, which probably was her original expectation. Rather than go for round two, she took the bill and left. So much for the better.
I am looking forward to my last night this evening. Have a date with a former Walking Street dancer turned young professional. Had great reunion sex with her earlier in the week (which was never even expected, though I wined and dined her with no conception as to whether she would want to stay the night, which she did. Even more than intimated bareback, which I demurred on). And still I remain as clueless as ever about this place.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2034116]As you read, I did not have a good time on LK Metro. As you won't be back to Thailand for a while, do you have any advice on navigating LK Metro? I clearly got it all wrong. To me it's seems to be the bazaro world Agogo area. I've had great times on Walkimg Street, Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Stephan Kwai but this place was just crazy. There were even very few customers. How do they get by?[/QUOTE]The redeeming quality of LK Metro is that it is void of the throngs of tourists and terrorists; mostly ex-pats who call LK Metro home. It's refreshing to me and a much needed break from all the crap on WS. The girls in LK Metro are friendlier, don't hawk drinks for all their friends and are enjoyable to chat with in a non-rushed environment. Just MHO.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034577]Wise decision BB to stay way at this time of the year as I know you also always look for quality gals. I would also recommend August to October as I found less travellers from my earlier experiences and choices are plenty. I was here once during Christmas in 2015 and have decided to never visit during that time again. Always found Manila and AC more fun despite being Christian country. Guess girls there need money more than holidays.
I plan to visit Phnom Penh or Jakarta followed by Angeles and finally Pattaya. Will be in touch with you and UV on the dates if we can connect during this time.
Coming back to short FR from yest, The Lao cutie from social media stood me up eventually. Good 1. 5 jours wasted. I decided to venture north as it was only 11 pm and ended in one of the small bars after soi 6 on second road as I spotted a potential. She turned out to be an ex WS gogo gal working in a small bar as she had been sponsored by a dude from Sweden. Amazing time with her back in hotel. Went to Lucifer and met 3 more of her friends and had fun till wee hours. Back to hotel and another round later I let her go with 2 k LT and good tip because that's what she wanted. She's flying to Sweden for 3 months shortly and showed me her ticket. Good for her and best of luck for the dude. Amazing experience, has happened twice with me of finding a gem in a small bar on north. Just needs bit of walking effort.[/QUOTE]I like it there all year round. Especially during low season. And I usually stay 9 months out if the year. With side trips to Indonesia, Laos, etc. During the next 9 months in Asia I will finally go to PP. Met a guy on the flight back to the USA and he has a bar there. So.... I gotta go check it out. :D
Nice find on 2nd road. In regards to the 'tip' part of your report. No need to tip.
1. 2000 baht is plenty (I usually give 1200-1500 for LT). For the past 6 years, I may have donated 2000 baht to only about 3 or 4 girls.
2. Taking her to the club is costing you even more money.
3. That chick had a sponsor. So she doesn't need YOUR money. 2000 was already enough.
Glad you had a good time. I hope guys keep that tipping stuff at home. (giving the girl an extra 60-100 baht for the moto taxi the next day is fine, but tipping is not necessary).
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2034776]That chick had a sponsor. So she doesn't need YOUR money. 2000 was already enough.[/QUOTE]This is a really good point. Some guys look at these girls who have Sponsors as gold diggers sucking guys in. Personally I really like girls with Sponsors since they will only charge me for a bag of Squid chips. They're already set and are just going out to have fun now while their Sponsors are away.
I used to go to China quite a bit for work, had a bar girl pick me up one time, she wasn't going to take no for an answer. Similar situation, had a German guy looking after her and she was bored when he wasn't around, I saw her at least 5 times and all it cost me were drinks here and there and dinner once.
Probably similar anywhere, girls don't need cash they are just bored and horny so if they like you enough it shouldn't cost you much more than your time and a bit of effort to make them feel appreciated.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2034599]Nicely done!! You are the King of the small bars and master of finding the needle in the haystack![/QUOTE]And this also happened to me.
Picked one from Insomnia yest, cute young spinner, gogo girl agrees on 3 k LT. Back in the room we are ok, no pics, I don't push. After a pop she pulls the oldest trick on me that her roommate has lost room key and she needs to go. I have no choice but to pay and let her go. She asks for entire money and eventually I end up giving her 2 k. I know I should have given her less, etc but I didn't want any drama at that time hence just let it go.
The young ones do make it difficult at times.
[QUOTE=ParkVille;2033689]Oh I agree. And that's just how markets regulate themselves. I only do P4 P if I 1) Enjoy it 2) can easily afford it *every* night. Otherwise for me, it's not sustainable. For Pattaya, I used to get LT from young 20 year old bar girls for 1500 LT (BF included) regularly. Now that is no longer the case, even the "basement" appeals more to me honestly. These girls are not that much to get worked up about for 3000 baht (but I have no problem spending 4000 baht in a Bangkok soapy, as it's a quality thing to pay for actual models).[/QUOTE]Sarcasm clearly isn't working. Sigh.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034577]Amazing experience, has happened twice with me of finding a gem in a small bar on north. Just needs bit of walking effort.[/QUOTE]If you look at Pattaya from a business angle, clearly you can see that the GoGo bars and discos are tourist traps. If you want to find a chick who will fuck to your heart's content, always hit the bars that are off the beaten path. There are untold riches waiting to be uncovered (pun unintended).
More power to you IH.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034860]And this also happened to me.
Picked one from Insomnia yest, cute young spinner, gogo girl agrees on 3 k LT. Back in the room we are ok, no pics, I don't push. After a pop she pulls the oldest trick on me that her roommate has lost room key and she needs to go. I have no choice but to pay and let her go. She asks for entire money and eventually I end up giving her 2 k. I know I should have given her less, etc but I didn't want any drama at that time hence just let it go.
The young ones do make it difficult at times.[/QUOTE]We all live and learn. Personally, I do not see the attraction in staying up till 3 am to hook a hooker only to be stiffed by her after one pop. But one has to take good times with the bad, happy times with the sad. Have fun.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034860]And this also happened to me.
Picked one from Insomnia yest, cute young spinner, gogo girl agrees on 3 k LT. Back in the room we are ok, no pics, I don't push. After a pop she pulls the oldest trick on me that her roommate has lost room key and she needs to go. I have no choice but to pay and let her go. She asks for entire money and eventually I end up giving her 2 k. I know I should have given her less, etc but I didn't want any drama at that time hence just let it go.
The young ones do make it difficult at times.[/QUOTE]Don't even think of LT if you don't know the girl in the modern day. Start with ST, and if is really going great, see if she can be persuaded to extend to LT (many won't do LT). I only do LT with one girl I have known for years, not that young, that I know is really keen on a morning fuck. Some of us are used to sleeping alone, I guess.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2034860]And this also happened to me.
Picked one from Insomnia yest, cute young spinner, gogo girl agrees on 3 k LT. Back in the room we are ok, no pics, I don't push. After a pop she pulls the oldest trick on me that her roommate has lost room key and she needs to go. I have no choice but to pay and let her go. She asks for entire money and eventually I end up giving her 2 k. I know I should have given her less, etc but I didn't want any drama at that time hence just let it go.
The young ones do make it difficult at times.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it illusion. Got to take the good with the bad. And getting your nut off with a 20 something hottie for under $60 USD isn't all that bad.
I've found that the only real litmus test for discos is if you click and have a natural, "spontaneous" (not forced) makeout session with the girl at the club. Btu if you are too strict about this and make it a rule you may pass up on some good girls, as some girls are just too shy to do this.