Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2037909]For sure it's bad behavior, which induces one to generalize and stereotype.

On the other hand, nobody gets hurt, Indians are often victims them too, and there is much worse than that.

I'd say move on, if you don't like Beach road experience just move on. Unfortunately, it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Worked 4 years in South of India, never saw such a number of frustrated men, most of them have no access to woman even kissing before they can get married which is more and more difficult for the lower classes (ratio man to woman is a disaster in North of Delhi in some place you have 800 girls for 1000 boys), also more or less 0 sexual education, poor living conditions, no privacy which mean no sensuality between wife and husband. And the huge religion pressure. A long way to go for most of the indian guys, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2037882]I doesn't help when 5 - 6 indians surround a single FL'ancer and all eye her like a piece of meat and try to get the lowest price they can get. Stereotype? No, happens all the time on WS. Maybe of they didn't abourt all their females in their homeland; IMHO.[/QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with that. Yes, it looks a bit odd if you're not used to it, but it's just friendly bargaining for services, not gang grape. The girl is in no danger and free to refuse if she dislikes them. In addition, many Indians seem not to mind sharing, so the girl has an opportunity to negotiate multiple short times at once. With the group of 5-6 friends, the girl may well score 4 short times within one hour, if she so desires.

I know of a few freelancers who actually prefer Indian customers. They claim Indians have low expectations, are far less work than a typical Farang, so a session is typically done in about a third of the time. Let's face it, it's prostitution, it's not pretty (much as some girls try make customers feel good and provide GFE) and the math is simple -- more dicks in less time equals more money.

Back in the old days, the economics of prostitution in Pattaya was often tilted towards extracting as much value as possible from a single customer. A customer who'd take a girl for multiple days was the jackpot. He would pay the long-time fee (typically 2 x the short time going rate per day), plus sometimes various extras (shopping, sick buffalo medicine, all the way up to sin sot and marriage). This model is virtually gone, now most Pattaya girls aim for as many short times as they can fit, and very few are eager for a long-time (at 2 x the short-time price), especially if you ask earlier in the evening.

I don't think Indians are all that much worse as customers than Farang, it's just that we like to feel superior. Sure, Indians may not be the #1 race idolized by most Thais (that would probably be Koreans or Japanese), but believe it or not, the first priority of a Pattaya prostitute is NOT finding a "handsum man". I did hear girls remark that a fair number of Indians have a body smell that they dislike. On the other hand, far fewer Indians tend to drink excessively compared to Farang. Between a smelly Indian and a drunk Englishman, the Indian may well be easier to handle.

Absolutely correct, buy a full bottel of liquor in any bar in Thailand and the entire staff will be at your service. Even theyvwill recomend the regularly visiting birds to sit near you. At the end what matters is your attitude and your capacity to spend. !tagreplacement0}.

Yeah the best way to get VIP treatment in pattaya discos is to simply buy a bottle. If there is ever a disagreement (eg: about who has a table, or a girl, or whatever) and it's between a guy who buys bottles and a guy who doesn't, guess which one is getting kicked out. Although I don't buy bottles, my friends there who do and I can see they are well liked (featured in photos on the website, had one guy kicked out for trying to steal their table). I never get bottles because I don't drink (that much) alcohol, and prefer to just do a quick and mostly sober hunt for talent and I'm out either alone or with someone in 30 minutes.

PV, Croc, you're Absolut-ely correct.

Disco episode, on my latest Pattaya arrival I went to Lucifer with a friend and his GF. Causality wanted that I immediately ran into a girl of my liking, to celebrate all that I bought a bottle of Absolut and related mixers. After a while, tired by the by journey and aroused by the dances I left with the girl, instructing my friend to leave the bottle with my name and VIP card for the next time. At at 6 AM he LINEs me: "Hell broke. They dropped the balloons supposedly containing big prizes, girls running for it toppled table, bottle and all. I'll pay you back". Well, I'm still waiting for the entire bottle, but he's been very nice anyway, LoL.

Croc, I meet a girl exactly like from the old times as you said. Being the romantic, monogamous fucker that I am, I took the opportunity and enjoyed three (four ?) good days and nights. Spinner Lao lady from Red Car, by the pool table pillars.

Tovarish Uncle V, where you were when all this happened? I asked any semblance of woman and even the tables about you, where are you been?

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2037993]

Tovarish Uncle V, where you were when all this happened? I asked any semblance of woman and even the tables about you, where are you been?[/QUOTE]Was this Thursday May 4? If so I was at Lucifer! But only for a very short time. I was at the elevated back bar area with my regular girl. We were at Ibar first but they had some kind of trouble with the AC and it was just too hot to stay there so we left to go check out Lucifer.

It was my first time there since the renovation and I like the new layout. But it was too packed to get a real sense of what was on offer. Some kind of party was going on (some kind of celebrity DJ boy band guy was there) but we left early for boom boom back in loom. 555.

Kicking myself that I didn't not know you were in town. We will do better next time. I hope to see you in August Comrade!

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2036674]It's hard for me to understand guys who focus so much on the building and the room, rather than on the lady. For me, the lady is far more important, than the place she is at. Because I'm there for her and not for the place.

If the lady is really hot, then I wouldn't even mind sneaking off with her into the bathroom for some acrobatic standing hanky-panky. It's not just about the comfort. There is something to be said for the hot lady and you working together like a team to achieve hot penetrations in unusual and difficult situations.

But if the lady is not hot, then even the best room in the world wouldn't turn me on for her. [/QUOTE]True, but the old Nataree in BKK had some pretty worn-down rooms, as did some of the places in the alleys off Pechaburi dating back from the 60's. I think the problem with Nataree was residual foot-fungus smell and not having a deep-cleaning routine for the carpets.

[QUOTE]When I find a hot chick, and I'm with her for the first time, then I need two shots with her. One time is not enough. And my impression is that ladies in Pattaya offer this kind of thing less than in Bangkok. I can't say this for sure. But I haven't had Pattaya ladies offer me to have a second go with them. It's something you need to ask the lady for, and her answer is never sure. Lack of transparency means that there is less competition. Ladies often don't know what other ladies are doing with their guys. Which means that your experience can vary a lot from one lady to another.[/QUOTE]Wow. Been awhile since a 2-fer was an option for me, but back in my late 20's and early 30's it was still possible. Unfortunately by the time I got to Eden for my 40th birthday and had the chance I couldn't quite make both shots happen. Been downhill since.

The days of walking to and trying to sneak into the Petchburi places without picking up a tout to bargain the thing down to sub-B1000 really spoiled me, as back then there would be a few good ones (7's or 8's) and you could just assume that everyone did the raft routine. For me that's a must. It was a rude awakening years later to discover at Nataree that most girls didn't and if I wanted that I had a much smaller pool to pick from. By then they had many Koreans just trying to pick the freshest looking girl that had started a week ago and paying extra for that.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2037993] Spinner Lao lady from Red Car, by the pool table pillars.
[/QUOTE]Also being a 'romatic old fan' of LT and regular visitor of Red Car in the past: How are the actual prices now?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2037964]Nothing wrong with that. Yes, it looks a bit odd if you're not used to it, but it's just friendly bargaining for services, not gang grape. The girl is in no danger and free to refuse if she dislikes them. In addition, many Indians seem not to mind sharing, so the girl has an opportunity to negotiate multiple short times at once. With the group of 5-6 friends, the girl may well score 4 short times within one hour, if she so desires.

I know of a few freelancers who actually prefer Indian customers. They claim Indians have low expectations, are far less work than a typical Farang, so a session is typically done in about a third of the time. Let's face it, it's prostitution, it's not pretty (much as some girls try make customers feel good and provide GFE) and the math is simple -- more dicks in less time equals more money.

Back in the old days, the economics of prostitution in Pattaya was often tilted towards extracting as much value as possible from a single customer. A customer who'd take a girl for multiple days was the jackpot. He would pay the long-time fee (typically 2 x the short time going rate per day), plus sometimes various extras (shopping, sick buffalo medicine, all the way up to sin sot and marriage). This model is virtually gone, now most Pattaya girls aim for as many short times as they can fit, and very few are eager for a long-time (at 2 x the short-time price), especially if you ask earlier in the evening.

I don't think Indians are all that much worse as customers than Farang, it's just that we like to feel superior. Sure, Indians may not be the #1 race idolized by most Thais (that would probably be Koreans or Japanese), but believe it or not, the first priority of a Pattaya prostitute is NOT finding a "handsum man". I did hear girls remark that a fair number of Indians have a body smell that they dislike. On the other hand, far fewer Indians tend to drink excessively compared to Farang. Between a smelly Indian and a drunk Englishman, the Indian may well be easier to handle.[/QUOTE]I hope that you are joking or you are a Indian guy, I know quite well a entrepreneur in the entertainment business in Phuket and really it is not his feeling about how his employees are perceiving most of the Indian guys, why they always need to be in groups to do something? Are you really sure that they drink less? Let us be serious all this is not link to ethnie background I it a problem of education which is unfortunately too strongly link with religion in India.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2038197]Also being a 'romatic old fan' of LT and regular visitor of Red Car in the past: How are the actual prices now?[/QUOTE]I think that most will ask 2 K, but will be happy with 1.5, give or take. This time I have been on the giving side, with no regrets. Brings good Karma, LoL.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya]Some kind of party was going on (some kind of celebrity DJ boy band guy was there) but we left early for boom boom back in loom.[/QUOTE]Yep I was there by the VIP on the right side, he was escorted outside in full commotion. Love how Thais have no problem performing in a place full of hookers and falangs, call it inclusiveness. Catch you next time!

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2038222]
Yep I was there by the VIP on the right side, he was escorted outside in full commotion. Love how Thais have no problem performing in a place full of hookers and falangs, call it inclusiveness. Catch you next time![/QUOTE]Damn it, we were just a few meters away form each other! We will do better next time, my friend! PM me next time you plan to be in town.

I'll be brief on this one.

Day 4- Arrive at walking street at 11 pm. It's Saturday night and more packed than the previous nights. Spend an hour and 3 drinks at 808, the 1st floor open area with jamaican-thai band. For comparison purpose, I did do a quick run in Insomnia. It was pretty packed and a lot of guys were heading it. The quality of females was good but the ratios not good. I head over to Lucifer for the 4th straight. I approach a girl, she and her friends had a table. I start buying her drinks and the dirty dancing and DFK start. We have a good time to about 2 am. At this point the place is prime time. I decide to take her home as we have good chemistry going. Shower together, DFK, DATY, multiple positions. She stays the night to 11am the next morning. She's a small girl but kinda a bed hog, I need my space. I didn't get a good night's sleep and don't go for a morning bang. Left 2000 be near her purse before bed. She says goodbye in the morning and shows herself out.

Day 5- A night or rest and no drinking. I head over to the Sabai Room for my first soapy massage. It's on second road across from Red Planet hotel. Hostess brings me in and shows me the 2000 be side. Jaw job, there's over 30 women to choose, maybe more. I pick Mina 924 or as she says nine-two-fck. Bath, body slide, CBJ, massage and missionary sex. No DATY or kissing. She is hot but kinda business like. Glad I tried it, would be a crime to go to thailand and not get a soapy massage.

Still Living the Dream Live from Pattaya.

[QUOTE=TremontTed;2038301]Day 4- Arrive at walking street at 11 pm. It's Saturday night and more packed than the previous nights. Spend an hour and 3 drinks at 808, the 1st floor open area with jamaican-thai band. [/QUOTE]Excellent reports bro. You are doing it big. I noticed in the last report you mentioned a band in 808 and did it in this one as well. 808 does not have a band. The place you were at is called Candy Shop. For some reason they covered the bar name up with a stupid electronic sign. A couple of months ago I told another board member to meet me there and he called saying he could not find it. That is when I looked up and saw the sign was covered.

You can see the blue letters that comprise the name if you look behind that long black sign. 808 is actually upstairs. LOL. And the band is not Jamaican either. Tino, the singer, is actually from my city back in the states.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2038499]Excellent reports bro. You are doing it big. I noticed in the last report you mentioned a band in 808 and did it in this one as well. 808 does not have a band. The place you were at is called Candy Shop. For some reason they covered the bar name up with a stupid electronic sign. You can see the bar name if you look behind that long black sign. 808 is actually upstairs. LOL. And the band is not Jamaican either. Tino, the singer, is actually from my city back in the states.[/QUOTE]I doubled check online and you are right. For the last 4 days 808 in my post ment candy shop. Nice open air bar, first floor to right of 808. I like the band and you can check out view of view of street. Freelancer available.

Decided to go back to Kittens due to the great service I got before, however when I got there all the girls were busy.

Thought I would head up to Soi 6 for a BJ instead and it was approximately 1 pm. Not much on offer but thought I saw an ok chick at Click Bar. Damage was 900 for a BJ upstairs. I must admit that this was probably the most lacklustre experience in my trip so far. Girl just wanted to suck and my hands couldn't wander much. Said she was 27 and had been there for 4 years. After sticking a couple of fingers in, it kinda shows.

Only have 2 days left after tomorrow and debating to treat myself to this stunner at Windmill. BF is 1 k and she wants 2 k for a 2 hour session. I have been under budget so far and can easily justify it but I have trouble reconciling it with all the freelancers that are available for $1 k.