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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2042032]Contemplating a visit soon? But need to ask about the condom situation in pattaya.
What is the situation?
What % of WGs absolutely require for sex?
What % of that is also covered BJ.[/QUOTE]My experience was that condoms are optional on Soi 6, but the GoGo girls insisted. I don't know what happens if you insist on no condom with a GoGo girl. I am not interested in no condom sex. Anal was easy to get. I offered the girl 1 k for anal and she accepted.
I have to admit that Thai women are utterly superior to any other form of hookers and I'm pretty much hooked and will be back soon.
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[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2041285]That's ridiculous. If you are at DMK and want to take the bus, just go to Mo Chit and then take the bus from there to Pattaya. No need to go all the way to BKK then to Pattaya. That's a waste of time.[/QUOTE]All the way to BKK? The bus from Mo Chit will pass Suvarnabhumi on its way to Pattaya so it's not really a detour.
To me it makes sense to go there if you want Bell's door to door service, in order to avoid the hassle of the baht bus from the bus station in Pattaya to your hotel.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2043185]All the way to BKK? The bus from Mo Chit will pass Suvarnabhumi on its way to Pattaya so it's not really a detour.[/QUOTE]But why make the extra stop then have to wait for the next bus when you could already be on one half way to Pattaya? Even if you take Bell, you are going to end up at the same North Pattaya bus station had you left directly from Mo(r) Chit. Get off and take a 50 baht baht bus to your hotel. No matter how you slice it, the Mo Chit way is faster and cheaper from Don M to Pattaya.
Taxi to Mo Chit, bus to Pattaya, baht bus to hotel. Or Shuttle bus to BKK, bus to Pattaya, van to hotel. Taxis and baht buses are readily available while shuttle buses and buses run on a schedule which may not align to your arrival times.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2043211]But why make the extra stop then have to wait for the next bus when you could already be on one half way to Pattaya? Even if you take Bell, you are going to end up at the same North Pattaya bus station had you left directly from Mo(r) Chit. Get off and take a 50 baht baht bus to your hotel. No matter how you slice it, the Mo Chit way is faster and cheaper from Don M to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I agree the Mo Chit way is faster and cheaper, but Bell takes you to your hotel in a mini van from North Pattaya bus station. It's more comfortable than a baht bus with a dozen people and a shit load of luggage.
Anyways, going from anywhere in Bangkok to anywhere in Pattaya is always a PITA if you ask me. Regardless the way of transportation. I hate that trip, LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2042979]The girls on soi 6 won't insist on condom usage. Think of the girls. I won't bare back as I don't want to give one of the girls HIV.
In Pattaya I asked each GoGo girl for "no condom" and each one of them said "no". Then I bar fined her. Paid 5k + 1k bar fine each time, only bar fined good lookers.
Got rejected twice, both times by Thais trying to look Korean or Chinese.[/QUOTE]Of course the girls say no if you ask them for bareback. They say what they think you want them to say. And of course they are afraid the other girls might find out they say yes. But it doesn't mean they never bareback.
I hardly ever barfine gogo or bar girls anymore but when I still did about half of them was willing to bareback.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2043211]But why make the extra stop then have to wait for the next bus when you could already be on one half way to Pattaya? Even if you take Bell, you are going to end up at the same North Pattaya bus station had you left directly from Mo(r) Chit. Get off and take a 50 baht baht bus to your hotel. No matter how you slice it, the Mo Chit way is faster and cheaper from Don M to Pattaya.
Taxi to Mo Chit, bus to Pattaya, baht bus to hotel. Or Shuttle bus to BKK, bus to Pattaya, van to hotel. Taxis and baht buses are readily available while shuttle buses and buses run on a schedule which may not align to your arrival times.[/QUOTE]Plus it's about an extra 45-60 mins of time wasted waiting for 1. Shuttle to BKK and 2. Waiting for the Bell bus (that you have to schedule in advance). I'd rather go straight to MoChit, then Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2042250]
General rule of thumb in Pattaya. If you are paying 2 k or more in ST, and it's not a massage shop, you'll probably get bareback. The girls feel inclined to offer it if you are offering at least that much money and most feel the need to service the customer (where the money comes from). [/QUOTE]With all due respect but this is BS.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2043235]With all due respect but this is BS.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have never even paid 2 K for LT, but with most of the girls that come with me I don't think it would be an issue. Has nothing to do with how much you spend.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2043227]I agree the Mo Chit way is faster and cheaper, but Bell takes you to your hotel in a mini van from North Pattaya bus station. It's more comfortable than a baht bus with a dozen people and a shit load of luggage.
[/QUOTE]But you are talking like the baht bus ride from the bus station to the hotel is 2 hours. It will probably be 10 minutes at the most. Or you can dick around at BKK and get to Pattaya 2 hours later than you would in order to wait for a comfortable 10 minute mini van ride full of people and luggage. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2043232]Of course the girls say no if you ask them for bareback. They say what they think you want them to say. And of course they are afraid the other girls might find out they say yes. But it doesn't mean they never bareback.
I hardly ever barfine gogo or bar girls anymore but when I still did about half of them was willing to bareback.[/QUOTE]Interesting. They shouldn't bareback, but mostly, they put themselves at risk. Why do you no longer bar fine? I have to say I found the quality of girls in GoGos in Pattaya to be exceedingly high, better than any FKK club, but then again, I prefer them around age 19-23.
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If it is not on.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2043379]Interesting. They shouldn't bareback, but mostly, they put themselves at risk. Why do you no longer bar fine? I have to say I found the quality of girls in GoGos in Pattaya to be exceedingly high, better than any FKK club, but then again, I prefer them around age 19-23.[/QUOTE]Agree about gogo girls. My most recent trip to Pattaya I took two from gogos and both were total GFE and great fun to party with. One wanted to bareback but I insisted on the plastic fantastic. Rarely do I ever bareback but my experience over many years is that if you treat the girls well and you are someone they feel comfortable with then they will more than likely accommodate.
If the girl is a street walker then you should be very careful. Not saying that gogo girls are spotless, just the chances with street walkers are much higher to catch a bug or two. Bareback also depends on the country you are hunting in as some girls will not regardless of money offered. It is a risk for both parties regardless and you should tread carefully.
Happy Hunting.
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Let's move this topic to the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread and leave this thread for review. I have posted my continuation question in the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2043379]Interesting. They shouldn't bareback, but mostly, they put themselves at risk. Why do you no longer bar fine? I have to say I found the quality of girls in GoGos in Pattaya to be exceedingly high, better than any FKK club, but then again, I prefer them around age 19-23.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "the quality"? I am going to have to assume you mean looks of the face, since FKK has some girls with really great bodies, and also some girls with skills far superior to normal gogo girls. So that leaves the fact that very few FKK girls have a stunning face, and yet, very few gogo girls have a stunning face also. So I am puzzled. Perhaps your FKK experience was too limited. A few were really dream girls for me, especially the skills and GFE. Others had really great bodies of near perfection. For gogo girls, sometimes a great GFE, but super skills? Hardly meet that, if ever.
Finally a thought dawns on me. Perhaps you mean the average standard of looks in the line up was higher than the average in an FKK club. The average standard means so little to me. I concentrate on the best few in any venue. If the rest are largely buffaloes, it doesn't matter to me. There are probably a lot less fake noses in an FKK. LOL. That is definitely a plus.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2043379]Why do you no longer bar fine? [/QUOTE]Because I'm sick and tired of the gogo and bar scene where most girls try to separate you from your money as quickly as possible.
It's much more fun and way cheaper to find girls on the internet.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2043428]...since FKK has some girls with really great bodies, and also some girls with skills far superior to normal gogo girls...A few were really dream girls for me...For gogo girls, sometimes a great GFE, but super skills? Hardly meet that, if ever...[/QUOTE]I have been going to the FKKs in Germany every year for 12+ years, sometimes twice a year. I have also taken 20+ trips to Thailand, since 2003. I absolutely agree with you, that girls in the FKK clubs are way more sophisticated, have excellent bodies and some of them are stunningly beautiful. Overall, I find the FKK girls better looking and better performers than the Thai ladies.
However, in my view the Thai ladies do shine in the GFE area. I find them to be the best GFE girls in the world.