Jakarta

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3082684]I will walk right out of Classic if I find that sexiest girls are not on the menu for me. I may end up spending more money somewhere else, but I will not care. I will not be put at the back of the bus.[/QUOTE]I like your moxie Axel! Be prepared to walk if you are not treated as an Alpha Monger. Where are you planning to go as an alternative venue to Classic? Do share as some in the community are already stuggling. From reports, many seem to be stuck at Classic come hell or high water. AR.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3082649]Travel:
- Very beautiful girls. Excellent experiences. 365 k + 100 k tip for one for 60 minutes. 500 k + 100 k + 100 k tip for two, for 90 minutes (tested). Clean rooms. I read on the forum that some users were caught after taking photos of the girl (you can't). The reason is simple: there's a camera in front of the bed, a huge one at that. It's supposed to ensure the girls' safety.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about the camera located inside the room?

That sounds strange, even for Jakarta.

So they are filming everything happening in the room between every girl and their customers and someone is watching that?

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3082815]I like your moxie Axel! Be prepared to walk if you are not treated as an Alpha Monger. Where are you planning to go as an alternative venue to Classic? Do share as some in the community are already stuggling. From reports, many seem to be stuck at Classic come hell or high water. AR.[/QUOTE]Way more effective for said punter write down his grievances and drop a note in the complaints box near the exit, management empty it every morning and they will likely be horrified he has withdrawn his custom. The prestige of being frequented by middle aged bule sex tourists is not to be underestimated to a business such as Classic. As a minimum that kind of indignation will likely result in a groveling apology and resulting confirmation of the gentleman's status as King Pring. Meanwhile, Jakarta just keeps on turning over.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3082815]I like your moxie Axel! Be prepared to walk if you are not treated as an Alpha Monger. Where are you planning to go as an alternative venue to Classic? Do share as some in the community are already stuggling. From reports, many seem to be stuck at Classic come hell or high water. AR.[/QUOTE]My favorite alternative bordellos where I have always found attractive / friendly girls and I am treated with well are Emporium, Malio / Malioboro, and Kings Cross.

Emporium is a much smaller place than Classic and the girls are a little more expensive, but the quality is high. I always have a good time here.

Malio / Malioboro is simply amazing. I really like this place. They have mamasan girls just like Classic, (although a lot more expensive!) And in addition, they have a ton of international girls from Vietnam and China to name a just few places of origin. But the real highlight here are the dancers who act as independent contractors and with whom customers can enjoy hands on auditions, if you know what I mean, 555, like in the best Go Go's on Burgos St in Makati or the best Go Go's in Nana in BKK. Tip: don't go to Malio before 9 pm. It does not really get going until then.

Kings Cross is kind of in between Emporium and Malio / Malioboro, but it's worth the trip, IMHO, after spending a fair amount of time in Classic, Emporium, and Malio.

So, I strongly recommend new visitors check out these alternative bordellos in addition to Classic and Hotel Travel. Jakarta is an amazing city with a lot to offer travelers! Don't miss out.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3082808]Don't introduce American silly behaviors that a tip is a duty. A tip is a great compliment and a way of saying thank you. When it becomes mandatory, it somehow loses its value as honest feedback for the service staff.

If you are not satisfied, tip 0. If t was so so, then 50 k. If she was great and did things not on the regular menu then tip 100 k. If she did make you totally breathless and you want her to visit you for a LT in your hotel, perhaps 200 k will convince her.[/QUOTE]Yes.

And if it was just so-so, I don't tip anything at all myself. Yesterday, my session at KI was so-so. I had offered a tip earlier in the session for certain extra services, but she declined. After the session, she asked if I would give her a tip, but I politely said no, and she equally politely said ok.

Also, at KI, judging from the reaction I get, a 100 k tip is surprising and good. Would be nice if it could be kept that way, unlike Classic, where it it seems to have become the minimum expected (but again, I do not tip for nothing) due to the influx of idiots who tip for nothing.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3082731]Maybe they were asking an outrageous price and that's why the Japanese guys turned her down. White guys (such as myself) have a deserved reputation for trying to get a good deal. While Asians are more known to just spend without caring.[/QUOTE]The prices are fixed.

How is the situation down there? I heard Indonesia has closed several airports including Jakarta because of the volcano, and passengers are stranded and hotels are fully booked. I have a trip coming up this weekend and will be arriving on September 14th. Hopefully things will return to normal by then.

[QUOTE=RavinderKuma;3082798]Hey guys,

My first trip to Jakarta is planned this month and I'm having a hard time deciding on where to stay. I've read up 50+ pages on this thread as well as the hotels thread. Basically I'm in my middle ages and find it often times more convenient to have in-room massages with FS with a hot young indo babe rather than going outside hunting which would drain me. I of course prefer young gals like most here and not ugly MILFs with a belly. After much research I've zeroed in on Orchardz Hotel Industri which some have reported provides in-room massage with FS. I would appreciate any inputs on this or are there any better places one would recommend? I would also like to take a few girls from KI to my hotel every now and then so proximity to KI would be needed. Thanks in advance gents! I'll post my FR soon once I'm done with my trip.[/QUOTE]Both Orchardz Industri and Orchardz Hotel Jayakarta are closer to the KI bars, and you can bring girls back to your hotel. They both have in-house spas that offer in-room massages. Just remember, if you walk to the onsite spa yourself, you will have the option to choose a girl you like from their tablet and enjoy the free Jacuzzi and amenities. If you have them send someone to your room instead, you are basically stuck with whoever they send you within the confines of your hotel room.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3082833]Are you sure about the camera located inside the room? That sounds strange, even for Jakarta. So they are filming everything happening in the room between every girl and their customers and someone is watching that?[/QUOTE]Calling out to esteemed bros OS or Werqweq. Since you are both on the ground in Jakarta, could you get a Grab Feel ASAP over to Classic and set the record straight? We have impressionable members under the influence of GiovanniVolo that Classic staff is "filming everything happening in the room between every girl and their customers and someone is watching that". Must be considered true until proven otherwise. AR.

Reporting from the ground, frequent visitor of Classic but will be heading to KI.

Please when is the best time to visit KI? Like in Classic, you can find the the lineup of 50 at 5 pm to avoid sloppy seconds, just wondering about KI.

And is it possible to book two at a time at KI for threesome like they do in Classic and Travel?

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3082869]Calling out to esteemed bros OS or Werqweq. Since you are both on the ground in Jakarta, could you get a Grab Feel ASAP over to Classic and set the record straight? We have impressionable members under the influence of GiovanniVolo that Classic staff is "filming everything happening in the room between every girl and their customers and someone is watching that". Must be considered true until proven otherwise. AR.[/QUOTE]He talks about Travel in his report about the camera I think. I've sometimes wanted to visit travel, but so many say BJ there is normally with condom, that I have not yet bothered.

I have of course never seen a camera inside any classic room. If he saw a camera there, or at travel, why would he get naked and start banging some girl in front of that camera? Makes no sense. Must have been smoking mushrooms.

[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;3082671]There might be some truth to the rumor floating around that the hottest / prettiest girls at Classic T2 are reserved for regulars / east asian customers.

For context, I've always had great success at T2 and am friendly with all the mamas but never been able to grab a session with the elusive 9/10's that you catch glimpses of. Also, imo, the most 7/8's are are on the second sofa on the right when you enter, handled by an older mama with glasses.

At around 6 PM a couple of days ago, I saw the mama grab an absolute hottie from the locker rooms for a line up for a group of young japanese guys. And when I say absolute hottie, I mean it, 10/10 for me, petite with curves at all the right places, and a beautiful face with burgundy dyed hair. The japanese guys rejected her and she sat on the sofa. Wasting no time, I smiled and waved and having received a shy smile in return, hurried to her mamasan to book. But the mama refused to book her for me, gave no explanation and sent her back to the locker rooms. Very weird.[/QUOTE]Can't get more evidence than that if you've experienced it first hand. I saw a very attractive girl on the sofa more noticeably than the rest and she refused me I was suprised it made me think she was waiting for someone of higher class for better tips as there's nothing wrong with me.

[QUOTE=Duolingy;3082882]Reporting from the ground, frequent visitor of Classic but will be heading to KI.

Please when is the best time to visit KI? Like in Classic, you can find the the lineup of 50 at 5 pm to avoid sloppy seconds, just wondering about KI.

And is it possible to book two at a time at KI for threesome like they do in Classic and Travel?

Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]You'll find a good lineup at 5, but it's only complete after 6 pm. After 8 the smoke becomes unbearable, I suggest going before that.

I'm sure you can take two girls at the same time if you pay for that, but I rarely see people doing that. There is no discount for taking two girls like in classic, and in most bars the rooms are too small to fit three people comfortably.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;3082911]Can't get more evidence than that if you've experienced it first hand. I saw a very attractive girl on the sofa more noticeably than the rest and she refused me I was suprised it made me think she was waiting for someone of higher class for better tips as there's nothing wrong with me.[/QUOTE]The girls have their own preferences too, as we do.

One example from a few months ago from that same mama. I think I never took any girl from her before. She comes up and push two girls, says they are new, take both of them, they are friends. I take only one of them, but the second girl keeps pushing for a threesome (and they were not friends).

The next day, I see the second girl and I grab her hand before she can take her seat after coming back from a lineup. She is reluctant, but comes and sit with me. Later the mama comes to us and don't understand how we ended up together. They talk for a while, and mama brings two other successive lineups, for me to chose another girl on top of the one I already chose. I refuse and warn her that I won't take my chosen girl to the room he she keeps pushing that nonsense, and mama spoke to the girl and I finally took her alone. That girl's preferences looked obvious to me, she likes to go in the room only when she is alongside another girl, and mama was aware of that and tried her best to fulfil the girl's wishes (she is not the first girl I've seen doing this, many other girls are trying to go in the room by pair). In your case it might be something else, but I wouldn't assume it is based on money, tips or higher class, that is the least likely option as the girl can't know who is going to be a good tipper or not (a lot of these Asian guys are very stinky or con artists), and the place is not known to attract high class customers anyway.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3083013] That girl's preferences looked obvious to me, she likes to go in the room only when she is alongside another girl, and mama was aware of that and tried her best to fulfil the girl's wishes .[/QUOTE]Weren't you worried to get a bad service if you took her by herself anyway? How was your experience in the room at the end?