Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2047606]Increase in the price of hookers is far higher than the rate of inflation. Changes in the scene are vastly bigger than just "are not as submissive and docile for chump change", and mostly for the worse. Prostitution scene in Thailand is in an inevitable decline, it's already nothing like it were in 2010 or so, not just in terms of price, but more notably type of available girls, prevailing attitudes, service standards, effective hours of operation and sheer numbers...
If you don't care about the chances, simply enjoy the scene as it is (while it lasts) and ignore the negative reports.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Crocodilexp.

The first time I came back in Thailand after the year 2000 was in 2009 and discos in Pattaya were still full of very cute or pretty girls. Back then I was giving only 500 baht for the cute ones in Insomnia (same price than in the early 2000's in the Marine 2 disco). If a girl wanted more than that, I was never asked more than 1500 baht. I came back twice a year for 1 month each in Pattaya and I can swear that it was getting more and more difficult to spot cute girls each time in discos. I personally saw the place decline from 2009 to 2012. The last time I tried my luck with a girl in Insomnia was in October 2015, the place was full of dicks and dogs but I managed to spot a girl that looked clean and classy (actually she did an effort with her hair style, her makeup and the way she dressed) but she asked 4000 baht (way too much for her). The gogos still have some good looking girls but it looks like the price is not that cheap. As for the decline of service I did not see a significant change with freelancers in Pattaya. Last time I spent a few days in Pattaya was in October 2016 and it was the first time I did a girl in soi 6 and she was pretty good. Nowadays I'm more a Bangkok oilies guy and I could still find some cute girls that provided a good service (I'm not a PSE guy though).

I tried to make contact with what looked like a Pattaya working girl on FB. But in a message exchange, it was some guy shilling for what looked like a provider for girls to Soi 6. He mentioned a name and an agency, which I won't, unless appropriate. This person supposedly runs all the Soi 6 bars, according to this shill. I read up on this person and he seems to be a notorious Soi 6 "mafia" boss. You regulars may know who I mean. Anyway, this guy's shill is very aggressively looking for suckers. He offered to fly a woman of my choice to Pattaya. When it became clear that I knew enough not to bring sand to the beach, he then got all Mr Hospitality on me. He said 'please check out our bars, approach any of the UK managers and they will get what you want'. Really, as if one has trouble shopping around on Soi 6.

I left the discussion politely, torn over whether to report the site or leave it around to so I could monitor. Anyway, a warning to newbies.

I also agree with Croc and Paolo, about it being harder to find cute girls, and there being too many guys in the discos. The place used to be a bit overstocked, now all I see is guys standing around lost / confused in Pattaya discos as there aren't enough cute girls worth paying for. Sure, plenty of ugly ones but who wants to have sex with an ugly / plain / boring woman while on a limited time holiday, even for free.

And I agree with everyone that gogo prices in Pattaya and Bangkok have gone to absurd tourist trap prices. Might as well just go to any soapy (the lord, in Bangkok) and get an actual model for the same price (4000 baht). I guess because some guys like to think they are going to get LT and maybe also LLT. However, most gogo girls (the popular, good looking ones) are very reluctant to do LT and will leave at 4-5 AM.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2047731]I also agree with Croc and Paolo, about it being harder to find cute girls, and there being too many guys in the discos. The place used to be a bit overstocked, now all I see is guys standing around lost / confused in Pattaya discos as there aren't enough cute girls worth paying for. Sure, plenty of ugly ones but who wants to have sex with an ugly / plain / boring woman while on a limited time holiday, even for free.

And I agree with everyone that gogo prices in Pattaya and Bangkok have gone to absurd tourist trap prices. Might as well just go to any soapy (the lord, in Bangkok) and get an actual model for the same price (4000 baht). I guess because some guys like to think they are going to get LT and maybe also LLT. However, most gogo girls (the popular, good looking ones) are very reluctant to do LT and will leave at 4-5 AM.[/QUOTE]And at the end of the day. A LT is ok eithe for the beginner who thinks to have found a pricey GF or for the expert who knows what to pull. The rest is just one more pop in the morning. That you pay as another ST.

Paying them to sleep in your nice Air con room?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2047639]My experience with TF will not reflect everyone's, but it was largely a waste of time for me. If you are younger and look good, I would think it would a good option. However, when you are pushing 50 like me, you are likely to attract the following:[/QUOTE]LOL you are correct I did get quite a bit of propositions from some scary-looking mamas!

You can set your age and orientation prefs, but I think you have an option to ignore that for searching even without premium accounts.

I didn't sign up for free sex, although it would be nice, nor I signed up to achieve something. I just was under an impression that girls in TF are much hotter than bargirls (I guess I'm wrong), and I did like the thought of having an NSA girl friend / FwB / FB who can go to tours and bars with me. I don't plan to have sex all the time there!

Well it looks like all those blogs and posts raving about TF was a shill or TF is no longer what it used to be. I will be in Pattaya for 4 days and 3 in Bangkok, so my time is too valuable to be wasted on playing games on TF. I'll go with agogo girls.

I will be going on my first trip to Thailand in August for 10 days. I was planning on doing 8 days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok. Been reading lots of forums and news articles. It seems Pattaya is getting a huge police crackdown. I wonder how it has changed the scene. Should I reevaluate? Maybe only 2 to 4 days in Pattaya and 6 or 8 in Bangkok. Anyone been since March? I will be providing detailed reports like the fine gentlemen here. I appreciate any help.

Where else can you find girls as young and good looking as in gogo bars? I haven't seen it. Why would a hot girl work for 2. 5 when she can get 5 ? In any case it's not 2000.2000 is long gone.

Hi,

I'm making my first pattaya trip July 1-10 and was hoping to meet up with someone who knows the layout. I'm 25 I drink and what not, so if anyone is free let me know.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2047795]I will be going on my first trip to Thailand in August for 10 days. I was planning on doing 8 days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok. Been reading lots of forums and news articles. It seems Pattaya is getting a huge police crackdown. I wonder how it has changed the scene. Should I reevaluate? Maybe only 2 to 4 days in Pattaya and 6 or 8 in Bangkok. Anyone been since March? I will be providing detailed reports like the fine gentlemen here. I appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]Your plan is a good one. I would spend spend three nights in each then evaluate which scene appeals to you the most and head back to that location if you can. If not maybe something like two evenings in BKK then down to Sin City for six evenings, then back to BKK for two final nights of wonderful, wonderful times. As far as "Crackdowns" go don't worry too much about that, just don't get yourself in a situation with trousers down. I was in Pattaya last week and didn't get a chance to monger, however I took a quick look around to gather some Intel for a friend who is coming next month. The overall feedback from those working in the scene was that yes the BIB are occasionally making visits, but everyone knows when and where this occurs. If you are nervous about BIB just have your passport copy and remain cool, smile and wai. It's still "Good Times" from what I saw and heard. I hope this helps and I really hope you have a great time. Your life is about to change forever. This is a magical place.

[QUOTE=TheoC92;2047813]Hi,

I'm making my first pattaya trip July 1-10 and was hoping to meet up with someone who knows the layout. I'm 25 I drink and what not, so if anyone is free let me know.[/QUOTE]Buy a membership and PM me.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2047795]I will be going on my first trip to Thailand in August for 10 days. I was planning on doing 8 days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok. Been reading lots of forums and news articles. It seems Pattaya is getting a huge police crackdown. I wonder how it has changed the scene. Should I reevaluate? Maybe only 2 to 4 days in Pattaya and 6 or 8 in Bangkok. Anyone been since March? I will be providing detailed reports like the fine gentlemen here. I appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]I was there a few weeks ago and didn't notice anything unusual. Don't change a thing mate.

[QUOTE=Mander;2047779]LOL you are correct I did get quite a bit of propositions from some scary-looking mamas!

You can set your age and orientation prefs, but I think you have an option to ignore that for searching even without premium accounts.

I didn't sign up for free sex, although it would be nice, nor I signed up to achieve something. I just was under an impression that girls in TF are much hotter than bargirls (I guess I'm wrong), and I did like the thought of having an NSA girl friend / FwB / FB who can go to tours and bars with me. I don't plan to have sex all the time there!

Well it looks like all those blogs and posts raving about TF was a shill or TF is no longer what it used to be. I will be in Pattaya for 4 days and 3 in Bangkok, so my time is too valuable to be wasted on playing games on TF. I'll go with agogo girls.[/QUOTE]I would say the posts on Thai Friendly were not shills. You have to know how to approach the P4 P on there. If you just message random ladies and ask them how much for sex and talk dirty and so on, you will fail. You have to remember 2 things. Number 1. Thai culture and number 2, there are some regular girls on there. Simply start a normal conversation and if the girl is P4 P, she will move the conversation in that direction. Finally, don't waste your time in Thailand on TF, make the contacts before you arrive.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2047741]And at the end of the day. A LT is ok eithe for the beginner who thinks to have found a pricey GF or for the expert who knows what to pull. The rest is just one more pop in the morning. That you pay as another ST.

Paying them to sleep in your nice Air con room?[/QUOTE]If they're hot, I wouldn't mind them staying the night and getting another shot in the morning, after I'm rested. But generally that is a net-loss for me because when they sleep in my bed, I don't sleep that well so enjoying P4 P is less fun the next day when I'm not resting well (and generating testosterone and such at night, during a good sleep).

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2047382]I see one of my gogo girl's mother on TF. That's scary.[/QUOTE]Perhaps its time to adjust those age filters?

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2047651]The sad fact is we do get older and without realizing it we do begin to take what Thailand offers for granted when really we should wake up every morning and thank our lucky stars this where we live eat and monger.[/QUOTE]Well said. It is indeed important for us to re-calibrate from time to time in order to make the most of what the environment offers.