Phuket Reports

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110529]Well, in Thailand, as already stated by Bionicman, the whiter your skin is, the better! A dark skin is not attractive for the locals (therefore, you would notice that many Thai young women avoid staying in the sun and often use skin whitening creams and other cosmetics in order to look "whiter"). It's a little bit like in the past in Europe when aristocrats were applying powder to their face to whiten it. During that period, the pale look was very desirable as it distinguished the wealthy from the common people who had a darker complexion. That's still what most Thai people think nowadays: you can not have a white skin if you are a poor peasant working several hours a day under the hard sun. Therefore, if your skin is fair, you are supposedly a more important person (richer, probably better educated, etc.) than people who have a darker complexion.

I must say that, as someone who lives daily in this country since year 2002, my own taste in local women is very different from what it was several years ago. I did not care much about the local girls' complexion then and even thought that dark-skinned women were more attractive and exotic. Don't be afraid if that's your preference, there is plenty of this kind (girls with a fair complexion are less numerous, especially on the P4P market) in the Land of Smiles. But, for me, they are not very attractive anymore (although a few among them still are, but that's rather exceptional nowadays) : I guess that's because I have spent a long time here and what is rarer (a fair skin) is more attractive to my eyes than what is very common (dark skin).

Now, about HIV prevalence in Thailand, I don't know what are your sources, but that's not what is said for instance here:

[url]http://www.avert.org/thailand-aids-hiv.htm[/url]

Anyway, if you practice safe sex, you should not worry much. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

About the Make-up, that's very interesting. Makes sense now.

I'm not sure where I read it. I can try to look up my source when I get a chance. But it wasn't about the average Thai population. It was about the average Thai sex worker. Anyway, your source said that it was 19% which is still pretty high (1 in 5).

Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? A lot of the pictures of the girls that I've been seeing in the photo gallery and various other threads were not attractive or the girls were old (or I guess at least not my type) to be honest (for example the 2nd and 3rd girls).

Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).

[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110710]Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? A lot of the pictures of the girls that I've been seeing in the photo gallery and various other threads were not attractive or the girls were old (or I guess at least not my type) to be honest (for example the 2nd and 3rd girls).[/quote]Plenty of thai girls look as good as that. Many of them look quite a bit better, from my view anyways.

I preferred the 3rd girl to be honest. But I agree that the 2nd was scary with her whiteface.

Don't judge thai girls by what you see in the photo gallery. Girls who are willing to pose for nude pictures are usually the more unattractive sex workers. And the guys proudly posting them as examples of female aesthetic beauty clearly have something wrong with their vision.

[quote]Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).[/QUOTE]Yes, but as a tourist not speaking thai, the "non-pro" girls you will meet aren't really that different from bargirls anyways. Internet dating sites are a good way to do it.

[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110710]... But it wasn't about the average Thai population. It was about the average Thai sex worker. Anyway, your source said that it was 19% which is still pretty high (1 in 5).[/QUOTE]
You read it wrong. Actually, it says: [i]"According to one study conducted by the government [b]in Bangkok[/b] in 2007, HIV prevalence [b]among freelance sex workers in Bangkok[/b] was 19 percent whereas HIV prevalence had declined to [b]4.3 percent in commercial sex establishments[/b] in that year."[/i]

19% was, according to this study, the HIV prevalence among freelance sex workers (including street walkers) in 2007 in Bangkok (not nationwide) and the HIV prevalence in commercial sex establishments (including brothels, massage parlors, etc.) was much lower.

[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110710]Regarding the photo of the first girl. Is it easy to find girls that look that good in Thailand? Like how common are they (I would rank her somewhere between an 8 and a 9)? Are there girls that look even better? ...[/QUOTE]
On my personal scale, the first girl is not more but a solid 8/10 and I already said that she is not one of the most attractive girls than one may find even in the cheapest brothels of Thailand. I don't have any picture that I can post here of girls that I would rank higher, but yes, many women, even in the P4P market, are more attractive. Alas, IMHO, there are much more not very attractive girls (at least, according to me) on the tourist-oriented P4P scene, because it's a known fact amongst the local girls that most foreigners are not very fussy about the look of their providers. The local guys would not fuck a great majority of them even for free, but many foreign punters are ready to spend (locally) indecent sums of money for the "privilege", therefore, the less attractive ones abound in places patronized by foreigners.

[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110710]Also, is it possible to meet good looking non-pro thai girls if you don't speak thai (but are in your mid to late 20s and decent looking).[/QUOTE]
It is possible, but I would not recommend it on your first stay in the Land of Smiles. If you want to meet real "non-pro" girls (there is a lot of freelancers and girls on dating websites who are actually "semi-pros" in disguise, or not very different from an occasional prostitute, IMHO), it's better to know first the local modus operandi for a courtship (for instance and among many other cultural things), and of course, it's much better to know at least some basic Thai. According to my own experience, most local "good" girls are traditionalists and, believe it or not, but many would not lost their virginity before marriage. Most of the real "non-pro" girls (again, according to my own experience) are looking for a serious and long-term relationship. If you are not ready for this, you should stuck with the P4P girls.

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110663]That's true. In real life, her face did not look so white even with the make-up on.

[/QUOTE]Pinays use a whitess base for their make up and a flash will light them (reflect the flash) up like a warning sign.

Slim

Hey guys, a little help with these questions please! .

- what are the best places in phuket to pick up girls?

- how much to pay for barfine, ST and LT?

- what are some good quality (preferably with jacuzzi) hotels to take them to?

Appreciate it!

P. S. Also if you have spare time, I've got the same 3 questions for Bangkok as well.

I mean in Patong by the way.

[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey; 1112134]Hey guys, a little help with these questions please! .

- what are the best places in phuket to pick up girls?

- how much to pay for barfine, ST and LT?

- what are some good quality (preferably with jacuzzi) hotels to take them to?

Appreciate it!

P. S. Also if you have spare time, I've got the same 3 questions for Bangkok as well. [/QUOTE]You want us to do your taxes for you too?

i posted a request for a comparison between phuket and samui a month or so ago.

i opted for samui and had a great time. i stayed in lamai during the peek season (christmas and ny). i stayed at various hotels (lamai perfect, coconut beach resort, lamai inn 99) paying between 1,000 and 1,200 baht for standard, clean rooms with wifi (except lamai perfect).

bar fines were 300 bt and never paid and never been asked for more than 1,000 bt for long-time. these are pattaya prices in a beautiful island.

yes, lamai is small and selection is not as wide as in pattaya, but there are always gems to be found. i kept an 18-year girl for a few days (see pictures). every time i come to samui i manage to find somebody similar.

i haven't seen phuket but prices for both accommodation and girls seem to be considerably higher. is it simply due to high demand from sucker farangs? is there anything that makes phuket truly better than samui and justifies this price differential?

if any hobbiests who have seen both islands could comment, i would appreciate.

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[QUOTE=Hedonist;1112716]... I haven't seen Phuket but prices for both accommodation and girls seem to be considerably higher. Is it simply due to high demand from sucker farangs? Is there anything that makes Phuket truly better than Samui and justifies this price differential?[/QUOTE]

While things are quickly changing in Koh Samui nowadays, Phuket still caters to a more high-end class of tourists. Koh Samui has been a backpackers' destination since late 70's. There are (on average) younger and less rich tourists in Koh Samui than in Phuket (many youths go to Koh Phangan, the neighboring island, for the full moon parties and some of them spend some time in Koh Samui too). I suppose that's why the prices are still lower (on average) in Koh Samui than in Phuket.

[quote=hedonist; 1112716]i posted a request for a comparison between phuket and samui a month or so ago.

i opted for samui and had a great time. i stayed in lamai during the peek season (christmas and ny). i stayed at various hotels (lamai perfect, coconut beach resort, lamai inn 99) paying between 1, 000 and 1, 200 baht for standard, clean rooms with wifi (except lamai perfect).

bar fines were 300 bt and never paid and never been asked for more than 1, 000 bt for long-time. these are pattaya prices in a beautiful island.

yes, lamai is small and selection is not as wide as in pattaya, but there are always gems to be found. i kept an 18-year girl for a few days (see pictures). every time i come to samui i manage to find somebody similar.

i haven't seen phuket but prices for both accommodation and girls seem to be considerably higher. is it simply due to high demand from sucker farangs? is there anything that makes phuket truly better than samui and justifies this price differential?

if any hobbiests who have seen both islands could comment, i would appreciate.

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[attach=config]144827[/attach][/quote]lamai perfect and coconut beach resort are girlfriend?

mastorr

[quote=hedonist; 1112716]i posted a request for a comparison between phuket and samui a month or so ago.

i opted for samui and had a great time. i stayed in lamai during the peek season (christmas and ny). i stayed at various hotels (lamai perfect, coconut beach resort, lamai inn 99) paying between 1, 000 and 1, 200 baht for standard, clean rooms with wifi (except lamai perfect).

bar fines were 300 bt and never paid and never been asked for more than 1, 000 bt for long-time. these are pattaya prices in a beautiful island.

yes, lamai is small and selection is not as wide as in pattaya, but there are always gems to be found. i kept an 18-year girl for a few days (see pictures). every time i come to samui i manage to find somebody similar.

i haven't seen phuket but prices for both accommodation and girls seem to be considerably higher. is it simply due to high demand from sucker farangs? is there anything that makes phuket truly better than samui and justifies this price differential?

if any hobbiests who have seen both islands could comment, i would appreciate.

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[attach=config]144827[/attach][/quote]good you took the advices hedonist and thanks for reporting back. i've tried both places and that's why i keep comming back to samui. but there is a difference though between chaweng and lamai. just hope that lamai remains the laid back place it is for years to come.

[QUOTE=Evianist;1112191]You want us to do your taxes for you too?[/QUOTE]That'd be great! .

But seriously, please help guys. I just got here and have no idea where to go for girls or hotels, or how much to pay.

They are. I think almost all hotels in Lamai must be girlfriendly.

[QUOTE=Mastorr; 1112862]Lamai Perfect and Coconut Beach Resort are girlfriend?

Mastorr[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Evianist; 1105126]Visited phunphon soi 11 in Phuket City.

It is a place mostly for thai locals.

I would not recommend inexperienced tourists go there. But if you've been around the block in Thailand and are looking for a new adventure and want to do it like the locals do, it's an interesting experience.

It's basically a small soi with about 5 girly bar places on both sides. There are big glass windows and couches. When I drove through they were all empty. A few mamasan / papasan types sitting out front. A couple of them said something to me. Saw about 2 or 3 girls sitting outside too. Did not see any customers. [/QUOTE]Visited here again. Talked to the same papasan. This time he tried to charge me 700 baht, even though last time he charged 600 baht. I gave him 600 in exact change and he seemed OK with that.

Got another girl from Chiang Mai. She had been sleeping and was woken up. Seemed unhappy about that. Short hair, looked like a little lesbian. Touched her stomach and it was hard. I suspect she was a couple months pregnant.

Anyways the performance was pretty poor. She was not into it in the slightest, and basically just opened her legs and looked away and acted annoyed. Extremely unerotic.

Gave her 200 baht after but shouldn't have given her anything.

Saw another farang driving down the soi checking the area out.

I'm in Phuket now and would like to know if there are guys in here who are currently in Phuket and would like to go hunting and exploring the various venues together. I'm staying in Patong. Please either post here or pm me.

Thanks!