Sauna Reviews

I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.

I have visited many times in the past with great memories, but, I have not been for several years. While is was nice to see some familiar staff and acquaintances, that is where it ended.

I sincerely wished I had not visited and left my prior memories intact. What I experienced was a major disappointment.

There was no chance to relax. The staff was extremely pushy from the beginning. I was stormed and solicited for tips constantly. I fraught my way through the hordes to the lounge area to spend some time and wait for the line up. In the lounge my wing-man and I were surrounded instantly by no less then 15 people that would not take no for an answer in their offering of the many spa services. We each ended up surrounded by five or six massage girls. Each girl took a foot; leg, head, shoulder etc. I had to push away a couple massage guys. LOL. The massage was not at all relaxing. The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?

When the music started signaling the beginning of the lineup we moved to the staging area and watched the girls on the raised area. It has not changed in routine. Five or six girls who preform a snuffle dance with various degrees of enthusiasm, ending in stripping and running for cover once the music stops.

The lineup was disappointing. There were maybe 35-40 girls, mostly older and ordinary. The exception were about 5 Korean girls that were priced at $4,000 HKD and came highly recommended. But, for a little over $500 USD the answer was a no go for me.

Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.

The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.

You decide.

This topic gets covered more in the thailand forum, but I couldn't find much of a discussion here. I used to always just finish in the condom type of guy, but have been enjoying doing a CIM finish lately. In a discussion with friends it seems that pulling out and cuming on the girl's tits or stomachs is a lot more popular than I ever knew. Guess you can't be too old to learn new things, haha. But anyway I wanted to know what other's experiences have been with CIM with the sauna girls? Something they do or hit / miss? Or are they like thai girls and quite cum phobic and will pull off at last minute and make it just a handjob finish? Thanks for sharing.

Getting around:

Using the hotel shuttles is a free and convenient way to get around. From the ferry terminal you can get to almost any major hotel. The Wynn shuttles seem to be the most frequent with a new shuttle showing up at the ferry terminal almost every few minutes during peak times. You can also use the shuttles to get from the Macau side to the Cotai side. My favorite is the Venetian to Sands shuttle which if you are staying on the Cotai side will put you within walking distance of many saunas on the Macau side. A taxi ride from Cotai to Macau will usually cost about 50-70 MOP.

Familia Nobre (FN):

There's a lot of info here already on FN so I will just summarize for the newbies and provide some updated info. Prices have gone up a lot. The current FS prices are as follows (regular / VIP rate):

Japanese (4188/3888).

Super Star (3388/3188).

European (2988/2688).

Star (2588/2388).

Regular (2288/1938).

FS prices include 1 free massage service (foot, shoulder, thigh, etc.) normally priced at 218 or 2 free services if you are VIP member. It costs 188 to sign up for a VIP membership. The free show starts around 1130 so make sure you are in the last section of the lounge near the dining area at that time. Girls rotate 4 times and perform various acts with the final girl performing a 30-45 sec BBBJ. Then a full line up is presented for you to choose for FS. You may decline to choose. Girls work staggered shifts will the first girls available for FS around 1 pm and last call around 7 am. Peak times are 8 pm to 1 am when you will likely get the biggest line-up about (30-40 girls). Like most saunas, you can sleep overnight at FN to save some money. The shared room is all the way at the end of the you shaped hall. Just ask and the hostess can escort you there. There are probably 20-30 bunk beds that are hard as a rock. There will be a bunch of dudes snoring pretty loud. Don't expect luxury. Will feel more like a military barrack. Overall, quality of the girls has slipped a little but still solid. Service was pretty good. FN is still one of the better values in super expensive Macau. Will post more info on Darling, Emperor, East when I feel up to it.

As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

Tip 1– If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).

Tip 2– Take the free shuttle buses provided by the casinos.

Whether you enter Macau by land, air, or sea – all exit points have buses waiting to escort you and your luggage to their designated casinos. My personal favorite is the Wynn as its gets me to within walking distance of my favorite Sauna. FN - and they even have free Wi-Fi on the buses! (I think all the casino buses have free Wi-Fi now though).

Tip 3– Leave you luggage at any casino – for free!

For those of you worried about what to do with your luggage for your stay in Macau, keep in mind that almost all the casinos provide free luggage storage for at least 72 hrs. Take a few essentials with you; a change of clothes, your valuables (I. E. Passport, large amounts of cash) and leave everything else in the casino. Don't worry about security, these are 5 star casinos making millions of dollars and the last thing they are looking to do is rob you (aside from on the casino floor, LOL). You can get and use all other supplies such as towels and toiletries at the sauna. They literally have everything from toothpaste, toothbrushes, shaving kits, hairsprays, you name it, so don't worry about any of that stuff. I've left my luggage with numerous casinos in the past – Wynn, Grand Lisboa, Venetian, and never had issues, but again my personal favorite is Wynn as its closest to FN. Note: The baggage storage for the Wynn is at the main lobby near where their waterfall thing is. It's about a 5 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.

Tip 4– 2288 HKD combo at FN.

I've tried almost all the Saunas in Macau and find that you get maximum value in Familia Nobre. The girls are almost always top notch, the staff is not too pushy, and on the whole I've always had a pleasant experience there. First thing I would suggest you do when you arrive is get a VIP card made. These used to be free of charge, however I believe they have started charging for them now (around 20 USD – not cheap – but worth the savings you will enjoy, especially if you become a regular). Gromit8 just gave a great detailed breakdown of the current pricing system at FN, as well as what being a VIP entitles you to.

I last visited a week ago, and discovered a 2288 HKD combo, which I found to be quite good. It included:

1. Scrubdown – When you enter the Jacuzzi / Sauna / Shower area in FN, you will notice a few hot Asian girls standing around in bikinis. These are the scrub down girls. What happens with a scrub down is one of these girls will take you to a separate shower room with a mattress, lie you face down, and give you a thorough wash / scrub down. They wrap a towel around their first and really go at it. Then they flip you over and repeat. They may tease you a bit with a half ass HJ, but they generally don't finish you off (people claim to have worked wonders with these girls in the past, however I have never managed to).

2. 2 mini-massages – When you get to the lounge area, mostly girls and 1 guy, start semi-harassing you for what I like to call mini-massages. A mini-massage is a 15-20 minute massage that you will receive right there in your lounge chair (aside from thigh massage). These include foot massage, hand / arm / shoulder massage, manicure, pedicure, ear cleaning. What happens with thigh massage is a masseuse will take you back to a separate room with a lounge chair, off come your shorts, and she proceeds to massage your legs & thighs, first without oil then with, and sort of tease you with a HJ – again without finishing you off (in my experience). As a VIP, you will be entitled to any 2 of these massages. Don't rush into them if you want to take your time. When they start harassing you, tell them later, they leave you alone after a few tries.

3. Shanghai Massage– This is a very nice 90 minute massage, provided by a masseuse who knows her shit. You don't get to choose this masseuse. You are taken to a room with a massage table, you remove all your clothes, and she gets started. Very nice, deep tissue massage. Flip over, repeat. This massage does include a HJ to completion. The masseuse doesn't get naked, however she does allow your hands to roam freely (as a matter of fact she encourages it). You get the HJ about 50-60 minutes in. After you pop, she cleans you and herself up and then continues with the massage. Last 15 minutes or so she works on your head. Very nice, very relaxing massage, not to mention getting 1 pop out of the way, you can enjoy yourself longer when you are with your FS girl.

4. FS girl – the 2288 HKD combo includes an Asian category girl, which is basically Chinese or Vietnamese. If you decide to go for Star, Model, or European, then you'the have to add the difference to 2288 HKD, whatever that might be. Personally I have a weakness for Vietnamese girls so I only ask to see the Vietnamese girls for the lineup anyways. You make your choice and off you go for your 60 minute session. I won't go into the details of this as it's been discussed many times on this forum before.

Keep in mind, 1-4 is in no particular order. The order is at your discretion. Just double check and confirm with a manager that you want to go for the 2288 HKD combo and make sure what all it includes just so you don't get vamboozled at checkout.

So all that for 2288 HKD, which is roughly 300 USD – works for me! Don't get me wrong, it's still expensive, but in a place like Macau, for everything I just listed above, that's as value as it's going to get. If you don't waste on a hotel, use the sauna to the max (I usually get at least 2 meals out of it – dinner and breakfast, and I enjoy all the complimentary fresh fruits, juices, teas etc.), 300 bucks is still livable for a night, or two.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

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Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Nothing to add, been there last week and had an amazing time.

Could not say more!

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leche;1954423]Could not say more![/QUOTE]Would like to second that. Thanks for taking the time to write the review.

Happy to be back in Macao and for slightly longer than I normal get to stay. Spent the first night at the new Wynn Palace which is amazing and some real "deals" on rooms right now as they are just building business. I splurged as they offered an executive suite for 2000 HKD on a Saturday night. Resort is amazing and was cool to stay for a night at a much cheaper price than is going to be available in the future. After a long flight from US and morning in HK was low on energy but fought the jet lag and headed over to my go to FN. I have to say it was really quite disappointing and even I had been on my VIP membership for 2 massages and 10% off I would have been really annoyed.

First they have changed operations and they no longer bring the girls to you in your seat and to the "Hello, boss" part which was a favorite of mine. Now when you ask they line the girls up at the end of the first hallway down toward the rooms and explain the pricing. I really didn't like this. First you could see no preview beforehand which I like to do wherever I go. Either in one of the showtimes like Rio or at FN would be able to check out girls as they walked by and lined up for others before calling for your own selection. Second this really puts you on spot to choose and its sort of a narrow space so really have to check the girls out like you are checking out livestock. Honestly I really don't like the change.

Then came problem 2. Lineup was seriously week, there was 1 model and a couple non asians otherwise all viets and none were that impressive. This was a Saturday night so I expected the best lineup of the week and I don't think I missed that many girls that were with customers, but with lineup the way it is now it's hard to tell. So being on the spot I chose a viet that had some nice knockers and was smiling a lot and making eyes. Unfortunately this is also were it topped out. Service was disappointing. The funnabagos were manmade, not a surprise, but they weren't even very good when undone. She wasn't very warm in room, no kissing, but honestly she had bad breath anyway. Basically everything was mechanical and not good. BJ was week. And she stayed in CG for 20 secs before wanting to switch. Thankfully I had dosed up on some kamigra or I think I would have lost wood. At this point I was getting annoyed so I kept working at it for as much as I could and just ignored her. But this was a week way to start my trip.

On the positive side the massages back in the lounge were great and they have been remodeling around various areas and all of that is nice. Without the VIP which kept the whole bill to 2100 for 3 massages and girl this would have been really disappointing. I have 4 nights total and will probably go back. But last night jet lag was catching up to me and I had planned on going back but the lousy experience wasn't enough to make overcome the heavy eyes. But damn, this is China and basically not a Chinese girl to choose from? I also noticed not a single girl walking the Wynn-starworld circuit. Sign of the times?

Day 2 I went by Darling1 at masters hotel about 4:30. Again lineup was a bit lacking, which was surprising again given it was weakened. Maybe a lot of girls occupied? When I exited at 6:30 selection was a lot deeper. Wanted to get some PRC action but nothing was impressive. Chose a viet, #389, that turned out to be real winner. 21 YO and just tight everywhere. Playful and decent english. At 1700 this is definitely a better option than what I had the night before. She gave a pretty good massage when tub was filling and a damn good time in the tub. Some LFK and eventual DFK as well. Really had a great time with her. She wasn't much for CG but was tight and liked the other positions as well. She certainly sounded like she was enjoying it or was faking it well enough for me. Did a bit of DATY which is uncommon for me, but she really warmed up to this. Planning on repeating with her before I leave.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1956362]Happy to be back in Macao and for slightly longer than I normal get to stay. Spent the first night at the new Wynn Palace which is amazing and some real "deals" on rooms right now as they are just building business. I splurged as they offered an executive suite for 2000 HKD on a Saturday night. Resort is amazing and was cool to stay for a night at a much cheaper price than is going to be available in the future. After a long flight from US and morning in HK was low on energy but fought the jet lag and headed over to my go to FN. I have to say it was really quite disappointing and even I had been on my VIP membership for 2 massages and 10% off I would have been really annoyed.

First they have changed operations and they no longer bring the girls to you in your seat and to the "Hello, boss" part which was a favorite of mine. Now when you ask they line the girls up at the end of the first hallway down toward the rooms and explain the pricing. I really didn't like this. First you could see no preview beforehand which I like to do wherever I go. Either in one of the showtimes like Rio or at FN would be able to check out girls as they walked by and lined up for others before calling for your own selection. Second this really puts you on spot to choose and its sort of a narrow space so really have to check the girls out like you are checking out livestock. Honestly I really don't like the change.

Then came problem 2. Lineup was seriously week, there was 1 model and a couple non asians otherwise all viets and none were that impressive. This was a Saturday night so I expected the best lineup of the week and I don't think I missed that many girls that were with customers, but with lineup the way it is now it's hard to tell. So being on the spot I chose a viet that had some nice knockers and was smiling a lot and making eyes. Unfortunately this is also were it topped out. Service was disappointing. The funnabagos were manmade, not a surprise, but they weren't even very good when undone. She wasn't very warm in room, no kissing, but honestly she had bad breath anyway. Basically everything was mechanical and not good. BJ was week. And she stayed in CG for 20 secs before wanting to switch. Thankfully I had dosed up on some kamigra or I think I would have lost wood. At this point I was getting annoyed so I kept working at it for as much as I could and just ignored her. But this was a week way to start my trip.

On the positive side the massages back in the lounge were great and they have been remodeling around various areas and all of that is nice. Without the VIP which kept the whole bill to 2100 for 3 massages and girl this would have been really disappointing. I have 4 nights total and will probably go back. But last night jet lag was catching up to me and I had planned on going back but the lousy experience wasn't enough to make overcome the heavy eyes. But damn, this is China and basically not a Chinese girl to choose from? I also noticed not a single girl walking the Wynn-starworld circuit. Sign of the times?

Day 2 I went by Darling1 at masters hotel about 4:30. Again lineup was a bit lacking, which was surprising again given it was weakened. Maybe a lot of girls occupied? When I exited at 6:30 selection was a lot deeper. Wanted to get some PRC action but nothing was impressive. Chose a viet, #389, that turned out to be real winner. 21 YO and just tight everywhere. Playful and decent english. At 1700 this is definitely a better option than what I had the night before. She gave a pretty good massage when tub was filling and a damn good time in the tub. Some LFK and eventual DFK as well. Really had a great time with her. She wasn't much for CG but was tight and liked the other positions as well. She certainly sounded like she was enjoying it or was faking it well enough for me. Did a bit of DATY which is uncommon for me, but she really warmed up to this. Planning on repeating with her before I leave.[/QUOTE]Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

Pc out.

[QUOTE=Suerte8;1945231]I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.

The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?

Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.

The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.

You decide.[/QUOTE]Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1959793]Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

Pc out.[/QUOTE]I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1959842]I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

PC out.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1959839]Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.[/QUOTE]The thigh massage in the main saloon is exactly as you mention. It is basically a fluffing for events to come. (No Pun intended Ha Ha Ha) I have succeeded in a good ending by moving the service provided to the privacy of the back room. These girls have amazing experience in keeping you hard for hours at a time or quick release. Up to you.

On the money again with the minimum charge. The point here is that on this trip paying the spa charge was the best deal.

After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN, and jetlag I took night 2 off. Next morning got a message from my D2 girl, I have taken to securing chat IDs for any girl where the session was a 7 or above as I have had some success in either arranging a repeat or offsite visit and has the added benefit of usually resulting in getting a photo of the girl for my archive, and she wanted to come over in the afternoon. This worked out nicely and had a nice time in the pool and then dinner and back for some fun. Only downside was the next day would have maybe swung by D2 in the afternoon but didn't want to run across her and not choose her. So on my last night I headed back to FN hoping to do better than my first time. I have to say it was disappointing again. I really dislike the new setup of not being able to preview what they have at all. So when you call for a lineup you are put on the spot to choose, and since you don't know what may be available you don't know if not choosing a girl and waiting till later is even worth it. As a VIP member FN is still a good deal compared to the other shops and I like the massage girls and the lounge area but going to have to branch out next trip. So after getting my manicure and foot massage I got taken back for the lineup. Again virtually no PRC girls, what the shit? Having already gone viet 3 times I really wanted a PRC girl. Thankfully there was one model available who was decent, but part of the sauna experience for me is supposed to be options. I chose her and had a good time, nothing extraordinary though. As a side note I did find it much more necessary to bring my own larger size protection throughout my trip. Don't know if the girls are buying smaller sizes or what's going on there, but wasn't as much of a problem for me in the past.

I went to check out the Grand Prix museum and managed to hit it on the one day a week its closed, Wednesday I think, so since I was in the neighborhood I walked over to golden dragon to check out the viet massage places. I am reasonably sure I located them and went into when for a massage. Got a decent massage, but didn't seem like options were on offer? The girl was ok, but not really that young and I didn't try to initiate anything. PC would you mind a short summary on the MO for these places? Should I have roamed with my hands? Given her a wink?

My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1960805]There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

PC out.[/QUOTE]PC,

You're obviously very knowledgeable and trying to help us find the right place, but my experience is similar to the others. I tried two nights to find "playful" Viet girls at the massage places near GD. Found the massage places, but the women working there were quite legit and didn't look like "playful" women. In fact, they said they don't do that kind of thing. They looked more like Aunties, though maybe a little younger than a typical Auntie. May I ask how pretty the women you experienced were? We all want to experience what you've been successful at getting there.