[QUOTE=Member #2041]
You can generalize all you wish about the typical p4p worker from Issan. But they are not all the same. They are human beings, and they run the gamut of variety that all humans do. And many of them are quite fully realized individuals who have much to offer beyond providing orifaces for our dicks.[/QUOTE]
Of course, everyone is different, and there are exceptions. But, I stand by what I have said and appreciate the experienced comments of Poster Lion, despite his not attempting to "watch my back" and agree with me. The vast majority of Isaan hookers are what I said they are. It doesn't mean they are evil or bad. It simply means they are...well...rude, crude and speak badly.
This woman you met may have been presentable and spoken English well (although, I wonder what her Thai is like). She may be a lovely woman in your eyes. But, for better or worse, Thais are very judgemental. They might well see through the thin veil of respectability that you can't penetrate. To you, this woman might seem polite and well-turned out. But to a Thai, she may appear totally crass. Despite your experiences here, you're still a visitor and don't know the nuances of the culture. While Thais would be polite to her. I doubt they would accept her into their society, unless they were of a similar status. But, of course, it depends on behavior. Westerners constantly judge Thais' preoccupation with heirarchy and status from a western perspective and thus are always highly critical of Thais' classism and apparent hypocricy. But, it is their culture, not ours. Unless you're one of those expats who lives in a Farang bubble (and there are lots of those), after awhile you begin to see things from the Thais' POV. One thing that one slowly starts to recognize are behavioral differences.
Poster Lion's epiphany is probably similar to mine. The moment I was able to understand enough Thai and Isaan dialect to know what was being said and HOW it was being said,, not to mention, the moment I dated my first regular TG and saw how she dressed, acted, spoke and behaved, I realized how unacceptable these women were. More to the point, I realized what many of them think about Farang. If most visitors knew exactly what these women think about them, they might have a different opinion.
Because this is an exotic foreign land and these girls look exotic as well, visitors begin to wax poetic about them, not realizing that once you're as familiar with them as you are with women from your own country and culture, you begin to separate them into appropriate and inapproriate, just as you would at home.
Many of these girls are the equivalent of the 'hillbillies' and 'trailer trash' one sees on the Jerry Springer Show in the US. Would you date one of those?
Thai women, whatever their status are trained by the culture to be flirtatious, charming and to cater to a man. This is what the vistor first sees. Bargirls and the like are excellent at this. But, "once the microphone and camera are off", their true selves come out.
Once you get submerged in the culture and are able to discern the subtleties of Thai women and see how a proper Thai woman acts and speaks, you'll truly see the difference.
And lest you think this is a condemnation of all Isaan girls, I offer the following story.
On my last birthday, my Isaan GF (educated and middle-class) and I went out with a friend, his Isaan GF (ex-Soi Cowboy), and his parents, who were visiting from Europe. My friend's GF, who I had always basically liked (and still like, despite her background) for some reason "let her guard down", spoke Thai in the most appalling manner and generally acted like an ill-bread country bumkin, (which she is) and more significantly, like the hooker that she, until recently had been. His parents, having been here numerous times and been acquainted with their son's numerous Thai GFs over the years were tuned in enough to catch at least some of this and were not impressed. But, what got me was my GF's reaction. She was very polite and kind to my friend's hick GF to the point that I thought she liked her. But, she was just being the polite, well-brought-up girl that she is, because once we left and were alone, she went off like a rocket about my friend's GF: about how she was dressed (skimpy top and hot-pants), and how rude she was, especially because she didn't take care of my friend's parents, (serve them food etc.) which a good Thai girl would do.
My GF's dislike for my friend's GF stems from the girl's lack of proper Thai behavior and respect because this is central to the culture.
That is the main point of my argument. Most of the women in P4P, even if not educated and from the lower classes would normally still have a modicum of proper Thai decorum, if it were not for the fact that they have been co-opted by the hooker life. Once that happens, they rarely change back.
