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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2051788]I think I've said this before but; When I was there, Soi 6 was complete rubbish, only good for a bit of a laugh and cheap sex. Some of the girls who were cute but not FKK or WS quality. Certainly not worth the trip to Thailand for Soi 6 alone. I'd say 70% of the girls on Soi 6 were ugly. But hey, it's cheap. Walking Street was on the other hand, was where I did my serious mongering and with good quality girls. Definitely worth the trip and was good value for money.[/QUOTE]I agree. It is very hit or miss. But I think around 70% of the time I have found a good girl or two and it has been a lot of fun. The other 20% I go someplace else. You have to do a lot of walking up and down that soi. LOL.
I try to hit it once a trip at least. It worked out for me well last trip as I found a very nice girl at Red Point that I found very attractive and had really good sex with. I ended up repeating with her. My buddy Illusionhreart also shagged a really love girl there during our visit.
The trip before that one short visit and I left empty handed.
It was very good in last Summer as there were a couple of really nice girls at Nightwish. They are gone now.
So worth a visit. But don't have high expectations going there.
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2051782]You seem to have a problem with any negative reports. Every report has to be very positive, it just makes me question your objectivity. I originally thought you just liked to humble-brag, which is cute, everyone has their own personality traits and I find that variety in life interesting. But now I actually question the objectivity of your reports. So the point of the forum is to share intell (free of charge at that) and use it accordingly,[/QUOTE]I for one understand what Bkkdog is saying. Guys are acting like it is the end of Pattaya and they have to change their trip plans because one bar closes or has different operating hours. There are so many ways to get laid in Pattaya that it should not make a difference. But guys are acting like if they can't go to a certain place at a certain time then all hope is lost for getting pussy. As I have said before all you have to do is walk outside and talk to a girl. You don't need to buy lady drinks or pay bar fines in Pattaya. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. But I guess some guys can't function unless someone else shoots the fish for them.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2051864]I for one understand what Bkkdog is saying. Guys are acting like it is the end of Pattaya and they have to change their trip plans because one bar closes or has different operating hours. There are so many ways to get laid in Pattaya that it should not make a difference. But guys are acting like if they can't go to a certain place at a certain time then all hope is lost for getting pussy. As I have said before all you have to do is walk outside and talk to a girl. You don't need to buy lady drinks or pay bar fines in Pattaya. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. But I guess some guys can't function unless someone else shoots the fish for them.[/QUOTE]The problem is that I personally found Pattaya to be perfectly priced with very little room for arbitrage. If you pay 1000 baht, you get a 1000 baht girl. If BKK has awesome skills with the ladies and can get a 6000 baht girl for 1500 baht, that's awesome for him, but it won't reflect reality for the majority of mongers.
I very strongly found that the only girls who make a trip to Thailand worthwhile are in the GoGo bars. I simply don't know where else you find well made 20 year old Thai ladies who will fuck for money.
The problem is that I noticed that many girls would only go with Japanese, Korean or Chinese men and now another problem is that there seems to be an effort to shut down GoGo bars entirely. So it's worth discussing.
The other thing is that I enjoy the party environment. I like being able to sit around, have a drink and slap girls on the ass and grab their boobs. If I just sit in my hotel and order ladies, it is still good, but not as good. My last trip was outright magical. If there are no GoGos, then the next trip won't be as magical. It is important that the GoGo bars are operational. This forum is how we get intel on that.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2051885]I very strongly found that the only girls who make a trip to Thailand worthwhile are in the GoGo bars. I simply don't know where else you find well made 20 year old Thai ladies who will fuck for money.[/QUOTE]But you act like all chicks that work in gogos are mystically transported from their rooms to the gogos. They are not. They go out and eat and shop and do everything else like everybody else. There are even a few living in my building. Maybe you are getting wrapped up in the gogo itself and not the girls. As you said you like the party aspect, so maybe it is the lights, alcohol, and outfits that are making you think the girls are really more than they are. Why not approach those same girls when they are out in the daytime? You would definitely save a ton on barfines, lady drinks, and I am sure you will even have to give less than 6000 baht to the girl.
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Isg
There is something about the personalities of many ISG guys that cause them to overreact.
I made one of my biggest mistakes ever because of it. I had a trip booked to Rio. I wasn't that thrilled about the hassle of applying for a Visa, so when several of the Termas got closed and the ISG guys said that was the beginning of the end of mongering in Rio, I took advantage of an airline schedule change and rebooked for free to another country in South America. The mongering in that other country was terrible and of course by the time I took the trip, Rio was completely back to normal. It was just a shakedown apparently for the government / police to get more money from the Termas.
Thailand is full of family friendly beach resorts, and it shows up in the scene being more hidden in Phuket. Pattaya of course gets some open minded traveling families and those are some fortunate kids who get to see some things other kids don't. But the infrastructure just isn't there to turn the place into Phuket or that other beach area nearer Bangkok (I think it begins with an H) that gets older, non mongerering, older travelers. The good beaches in Pattaya require a ferry ride, and all the good activities that appeal to both mongering guys and families (Elephant riding, fishing, wild animal parks) are available equally in Pattaya and in more traditional family areas of Thailand.
There is no logical reason for decision makers in Pattaya to make significant changes. This is just some minor publicity stunt that will be forgotten about in a few weeks.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2051897]The mongering in that other country was terrible and of course by the time I took the trip, Rio was completely back to normal. It was just a shakedown apparently for the government / police to get more money from the Termas.[/QUOTE]I moved from Rio to Pattaya 7 years ago. Today's Rio is definitely not the normal Rio that I knew. But I guess it is the same as the old Pattaya guys saying that Pattaya has gone downhill, when to me it is business as usual.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2051897]I made one of my biggest mistakes ever because of it. I had a trip booked to Rio. I wasn't that thrilled about the hassle of applying for a Visa, so when several of the Termas got closed and the ISG guys said that was the beginning of the end of mongering in Rio, I took advantage of an airline schedule change and rebooked for free to another country in South America. The mongering in that other country was terrible and of course by the time I took the trip, Rio was completely back to normal. It was just a shakedown apparently for the government / police to get more money from the Termas.[/QUOTE]I just finished updating my preferred list for Brazil. I have to say that the options abound, and that Brazil is still an excellent mongering destinations, and still the best in the world for me based on my personal tastes. Things looked dire for awhile, but for mongers they're looking better each and every day. Exchange rate is also looking good right now!
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The Cheap Charlie Chronicles just published this 11 minute YouTube snapshot of Pattaya Walking Street about 12 hours ago:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxvsJ9y0II[/URL]
I don't know what time this video was taken, but life in this Walking Street video certainly seems a lot more subdued than I am used to seeing in Pattaya Walking Street videos.
Was this video simply taken at a bad time of the night or are things really that subdued right now in Pattaya?
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2051788]I think I've said this before but; When I was there, Soi 6 was complete rubbish, only good for a bit of a laugh and cheap sex. Some of the girls who were cute but not FKK or WS quality. Certainly not worth the trip to Thailand for Soi 6 alone. I'd say 70% of the girls on Soi 6 were ugly. But hey, it's cheap. Walking Street was on the other hand, was where I did my serious mongering and with good quality girls. Definitely worth the trip and was good value for money.[/QUOTE]That's certainly what it seemed like to me. When I was in Pats last summer, I walked up and down Soi 6 a few times on a couple of different days. I didn't really see any girls that I wanted to fuck. I had a few girls run out into the street and try to pull me into a bar, but the pushiness made me want to walk.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2051721]Guys, stop with the crackdown nonsense. All reports show things business as usual. Pattaya is so full of P4 P options, you will never have to worry about how to find a willing companion.[/QUOTE]Here here. Exactly. I have concerns, but even if Soi 6 bars never open until 6 PM and all will refuse upstairs activities, and regardless of LDs, Pattaya will still be the premier place to go for mongering. I am already planning my 6th trip for the last half of October and first part of November. I am likely to get wet in October, but I have other unbreakable plans for mid-November, so I am pretty much stuck with October / November. Anyway, I am not traveling 12 time zones expecting the city to be shut down.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051979]The Cheap Charlie Chronicles just published this 11 minute YouTube snapshot of Pattaya Walking Street about 12 hours ago:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxvsJ9y0II[/URL]
I don't know what time this video was taken, but life in this Walking Street video certainly seems a lot more subdued than I am used to seeing in Pattaya Walking Street videos.
Was this video simply taken at a bad time of the night or are things really that subdued right now in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]The earlier closing times is a gods gift. So much more pussy on the streets after closing time that it is not too difficult to score for a way lower price than before. That is also why I love the up country midnight closing times so much. Less spending on LD's and more quality time before I go asleep.
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[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2051535]I am not sure what hot girls means by the people who paid only 1500 for L / T because now the lowest rate is at least 2000 2500.[/QUOTE]You assume that the lowest rate you get is the lowest rate.
Perhaps you just need to act a bit less horny? I bring a mate to PTY about once a year. Not an inexperienced monger by any means, but unfortunately in the discos he has got "horny" written all over his forehead and he constantly gets quoted 2-2. 5, no budging.
When you are negotiating with a used car dealer, do you tell him how hot the car is and how much you want to drive it home now?
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051979]Was this video simply taken at a bad time of the night or are things really that subdued right now in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Since the lights are off and there is a car driving on Walking Street, this video was shot after Walking Street CLOSED. I asked a gogo girl how Pattaya was now. Her reply "This is low low season".
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I can't stay up until 3 am. Usually go to bed then, in Pattaya. Ideally, go to sleep 12.
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My Patta Report. Day 1
So, finally I got my lazy ass off to contribute with a report! I guess what's what Thailand ISGers do in the afternoon LOL.
Landed at DMK airport and the immigration / passport control was a clusterfuck of chaos. Several hundreds of people were there in a small hall without any line divider or directions with huge Chinese tour groups with little sense of lining up or personal space. It took close to two hours to get through the passport control. Once I got out was surrounded by taxi mobs. After a bargain hunt, a seedy looking guy called 1600 THB, which I settled on, but then he led me to underground parking lot and put me in a tiny beat up Corolla. I guess it wasn't so smart of me. But then he took me to his garage and switched to a better SUV. Next time, I think I'll take Uber.
It took quite long to get to Pattaya, but finally got there, checked into a nice hotel. Siam at Siam. Thanks to ISG, I got connected to one of the member whom I had arranged to go bar-hopping together. The traffic was pretty bad, so he suggest I take a motorbike to meet him at LK Metro. It was quite an adventure and a miracle that I didn't fall off, but I eventually met my wingman at Touch Agogo. On the way, I wanted to pickup a blue pill to help my performance to overcome jet lag. I've tried few pharmacy where they gave me to look and shook head. Hmm I thought they gave it like candies here. Finally found a seedy-looking place where they generic 4-packs at 900 THB. At 9:00 PM, many places around LK Metro was practically void of customers. Line up wasn't all that great and the girls looked line in late 20's and 30's. We went through several bars then went over to Walking Street. It looked alot more livery there and girls were better looking. And you guys were right. Agogo girls were pretty hot and I could find at least one 9's and above per bars that we've visited.
We wanted to get two girls and fuck together / swap, but most girls were not up for it. In fact, many girls who would oggle us would say flat out NO when we asked for a foursome. We must went through close to 10 bars looking for two girls until around 2:00 AM, my buddy were able to butter up a mamasan to find girls who are willing to do a foursome. But at some point, the deal went from getting a girl each to getting TWO girls per guy. A sixsome MFFMFF! Talk about feeling like a gangsta! He also booked a nice hotel with jacuzzi where we can all join in. The girls would not BBBJ but that's understandable given the crowd.
Viagra wasn't really kicking in or I was way too tired I knew I only had, but I was able to fuck all four girls. My buddy, who took Cialis, was going at girls like a jack rabbit well after I was done, and then immediately passed out. I guess he gave it all LOL. I spent time chatting with the girls and ordering a roomservice for food. I thought about going for another shot in the morning, but the girls looked so worn out, I didn't have the heart to wake them up. Eventually we all got up and said farewells.