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[QUOTE=Canada;2538991]It is obvious you know nothing about these industries so it is impossible to have a legit discussion with you. This is a typical democrat claiming the lands are his not all the American peoples. You are a joke.[/QUOTE]You are clearly also familiar with the ad hominem rhetorical fallacy.
[QUOTE=Canada;2538993]I am falsely claiming Biden opened the borders. Are you crazy? Are you blaming Trump? Why is there a crises at the border after 2 months of Biden reversing all Trump and congress border laws by executive order not by congress. I ask then who is telling Biden to make those executive orders so we know who to blame. WHO?[/QUOTE]The border is not open.
You are talking silly.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2539033]You are clearly also familiar with the ad hominem rhetorical fallacy.[/QUOTE]Monger forums for whatever reason are an endless sea of logical fallacies. Straw men are probably the favorites, followed by the ever faithful ad nauseams / proofs by repetition, then non-sequiturs. There's also plenty of burden shifting and false dilemmas. These are usually done unknowingly, and after the second or third offense it well demonstrates that they've lost the argument. But guys like Canada will never yield nor will they ever go away. That's because they have nothing else on their calendar.
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President Joe Biden got 7 million more votes than his largest, shittiest opponent.
Yet 147 congressional Republicans voted to overturn the election results.
Some polls are showing around 70% of Americans are in favor of Covid-19 relief legislation.
Yet not one congressional Republican voted in favor of Covid relief.
In a representative government, those elected officials that fail to represent their constituents, often fail to stay in office.
See what's happening to the GOP who lost the White House and both houses of congress?
I hope the fools stay the course and lock in their losses. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Canada;2538861]We are disgusted about Biden and his socialists party killing the industry in USA.
In less than 2 months Biden has killed several domestic industries,.,.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JohnClayton;2538870]Which ones?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Canada;2538876]Which industry? Oil industry, mining industry, manufacturing industry, trucking industry plus all the small business that supports these.[/QUOTE]Your list is neither correct, nor several.
But you are a candidate for Drama Queen of the month with the silly, false exclamation that "Biden has killed several domestic industries".
[QUOTE=GDreams;2539021]Name one impact other than Keystone?
No Biden wants to provide these people with a path to citizenship. The are criteria to be applied so that undesirables do not qualify. These people are already in the country many actually providing a benefit to the economy working in jobs that americans will not do. The Government will not implement fines because too many people and businesses profit from this cheap labour. Not really much different to modern day slavery! Of course you prefer taxpayer dollars to go to further victimizing these people rather than punishing the perpetrators and using those funds to pay the policing. They do not qualify for stimulus cheques. What percentage of street drug dealers are illegals? Give us an actual number? The borders are not open to illegal immigrants. Yes you are finally getting it that the American people voted for Biden to carry out his campaign promises. These people are not competing against skilled labour they are doing jobs that Americans will not do. Many business get in seasonal workers on visas to do jobs that would otherwise not be filled. This is all simple supply and demand stuff, I'm surprised that such an accomplished businessman such as yourself doesn't understand this.
It works well in the UK, my daughters live there and are very happy with it, my sister and her family live in Canada and they are happy with it, so while you say they are not happy with it once again its just your opinion not a fact. My son lives in Australia, he likes the system there. Most of Europe has similar systems that they are satisfied with.
You say all this stuff but but you behave the opposite. The majority (remember that democracy thingy you don't like) voted in Democrats. You are obviously aggrieved that the people who you like are not in power. If you believed in democracy then you would support the will of the people. If you believed in democracy you would be speaking up about the gerrymandering and voter suppression being carried out by the Republicans. Maybe if Republicans did a bit more to help the people than line their own pockets they would not be in opposition.[/QUOTE]What jobs won't Americans do? I don't know of any jobs that this is true. Please name one job that an American won't do.
The illegals are not going through manned borders. They are crossing the border where there is no fence. Hence the open border term. Once they are in USA they are either not caught or they are caught and released. How do we vent the undesirable immigrants that aren't caught? You think only law abiding immigrants are crossing the border? Has Biden stopped the drug smugglers and human traffickers from crossing? Now in Arizona they haven't got enough border patrol to keep the check points open because they are overwhelmed but the sheer numbers. Even the liberal newspapers are acknowledging the problem but you don't seem to want to.
Why doesn't Biden focus on the poor and unemployed in this country first rather than path to citizenship for 11,000,000 illegals?
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2539037]The border is not open.
You are talking silly.[/QUOTE]If the border is not open how come we have so many illegals in Texas, CA, Arizona overwhelming the border patrol? Why are all the cages full of children?
[QUOTE=Canada;2539211]If the border is not open how come we have so many illegals in Texas, CA, Arizona overwhelming the border patrol? Why are all the cages full of children?[/QUOTE]Illegal immigrants can be exploited by employers north of the border in America. Just like you can exploit poor women when you go south of the border. What's to complain about it?
[QUOTE=Canada;2539211]If the border is not open how come we have so many illegals in Texas, CA, Arizona overwhelming the border patrol? Why are all the cages full of children?[/QUOTE]Canada, You have zero understanding of economics and the "Rule of Supply and Demand". And it's hilarious Hahaha.
Joe Biden beating the crap out of TrumpShit and becoming the 46th President of the United States has instantly made living in the United States better and more desirable. Much more desirable! More people are coming! That's what different.
If we had open borders, folks would be flooding over.
Instead we are having large increases in the amount of people being arrested right now trying to cross illegally because we don't have open borders!
[QUOTE=Canada;2539211]If the border is not open how come we have so many illegals in Texas, CA, Arizona overwhelming the border patrol? Why are all the cages full of children?[/QUOTE]It is quite amusing reading you writhing and squirming as you lose every argument you raise. You throw up baseless assertion after baseless assertion and whenever challenged you just swap to your next Fox talking point. The borders are not open, there is no crisis. Biden has revoked Trumps Muslim ban, reduced restrictions Trump placed on skilled labour entry, stopped repatriations until a review has been undertaken and increased the limit on refugee intake. He has not said or done anything to say that people entering the country illegally will be allowed to stay. As everyone except you knows that the majority of illegals enter via visa overstays and the majority of drugs are smuggled in via official border checkpoints. But don't stop your hysteria as it makes life fun sort of like hunting poor defenseless wildlife with an AK 47.
[QUOTE=Canada;2539210]What jobs won't Americans do? I don't know of any jobs that this is true. Please name one job that an American won't do.[/QUOTE]Strawberry picker.
Since I was a kid here in the OC, there's always been a seasonal shortage. I always instead chose to attend the Strawberry Festival.
Here's an article from the Orange County Register:
[URL]https://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/11/immigration-raids-scare-california-farmers-not-just-their-workers/[/URL]
"So Democratic USA Sen. Dianne Feinstein, then in her second full term, decided to check how much of the unemployment problem, then and now serious in both California and the entire nation, could be chalked up to the undocumented taking jobs from USA Citizens who wanted them.
She arranged for every office of the state Employment Development Department to list menial, farm-related jobs like strawberry picking that were actually available at the time. Absolutely none of the many thousands of citizens then drawing unemployment benefits in California bit on those jobs, even though everyone on unemployment must report job-seeking efforts in order to get a check.
The reasonable conclusion from this experiment which has not since been repeated anywhere was that unemployed USA Citizens were not interested in the kind of low-paid, seasonal and physically demanding jobs that often attract illegal immigrants to California and other parts of America. That's one big reason for this estimate from the American Farm Bureau Federation: Between 50 percent and 70 percent of all farm workers in this country are here illegally. "
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2539227]Instead we are having large increases in the amount of people being arrested right now trying to cross illegally because we don't have open borders![/QUOTE]Politics is full of logical fallacies, and the "open borders" nonsense is a big straw man. The brighter Republicans like Ted Cruz know better. The dumbfucks like Mo Brooks and Majorie Taylor Greene probably do not.
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[QUOTE=GDreams;2539242]It is quite amusing reading you writhing and squirming as you lose every argument you raise. You throw up baseless assertion after baseless assertion and whenever challenged you just swap to your next Fox talking point. The borders are not open, there is no crisis. Biden has revoked Trumps Muslim ban, reduced restrictions Trump placed on skilled labour entry, stopped repatriations until a review has been undertaken and increased the limit on refugee intake. He has not said or done anything to say that people entering the country illegally will be allowed to stay. As everyone except you knows that the majority of illegals enter via visa overstays and the majority of drugs are smuggled in via official border checkpoints. But don't stop your hysteria as it makes life fun sort of like hunting poor defenseless wildlife with an AK 47.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that the borders are wide open, that's the very reason why Trump wanted to build a wall and why Central Americans are streaming into the US. You have to stop denying the obvious reality of things. Biden welcomes illegal immigrants. He has no interest in what's best for the American people, neither does he respect the law. Biden wants free immigration to the United States.
Also, Trump never implemented any Muslim ban.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2539227]Canada, You have zero understanding of economics and the "Rule of Supply and Demand". And it's hilarious Hahaha.
Joe Biden beating the crap out of TrumpShit and becoming the 46th President of the United States has instantly made living in the United States better and more desirable. Much more desirable! More people are coming! That's what different.
If we had open borders, folks would be flooding over.
Instead we are having large increases in the amount of people being arrested right now trying to cross illegally because we don't have open borders![/QUOTE]It's obvious that Canada has a much better understanding of pretty much everything compared to you.
Biden started off his presidency by firing thousands of regular Americans and severely harmed the relationship with the key players in the Middle East. Biden is not only incompetent, he seems to be the voice of sectarian left wing extremists.
[QUOTE=Canada;2539210] [b]What jobs won't Americans do? I don't know of any jobs that this is true. Please name one job that an American won't do.[/b]
The illegals are not going through manned borders. They are crossing the border where there is no fence. Hence the open border term. Once they are in USA they are either not caught or they are caught and released. How do we vent the undesirable immigrants that aren't caught? You think only law abiding immigrants are crossing the border? Has Biden stopped the drug smugglers and human traffickers from crossing? Now in Arizona they haven't got enough border patrol to keep the check points open because they are overwhelmed but the sheer numbers. Even the liberal newspapers are acknowledging the problem but you don't seem to want to.
Why doesn't Biden focus on the poor and unemployed in this country first rather than path to citizenship for 11,000,000 illegals?[/QUOTE]Yet earlier you said. "Which border? Mexico border to allow Mexican and South American cheap, unskilled labor to take jobs away from Americans and to further lower wages for Americans."
So which is it? 1. Is it the shitty job like picking vegetables and fruit or manning a chicken / pork / beef breakdown line or another type of low level, menial task that Americans are lining up to fill? 2. Is it the shitty job like picking vegetables and fruit or another type of low level, menial task that brown people from SOTB are lining up to fill?
Americans won't do those menial jobs so Latinos do them. If it weren't for them the US would have precious little food.