Moscow

EK,

Do you speak Russian at all? You know, more than just "da" and "nyet"?

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]I just came back to Moscow to read what has transpired...interesting.

I was in Berlin had had two wonderful meetings for a great massage with a very happy and satisfied endings.

So now that I'm back on the land of Lenin where can I go or who I can see to repeat this experience?

To Stravinsky, I'll be in MOW off and on for at least another 2 weeks.

I look forward to the responses.[/QUOTE]

I'm American. Our economy is so much in the crapper right now, I might even consider doing it for 200 Euro if things get any more desperate.

What the Hell. You said you just want a great massage and there's no sex involved :-). According to the reports I read, it won't be much different than your last Russian experience :-)

I speak fluent English by the way.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]I just came back to Moscow to read what has transpired...interesting.

I was in Berlin had had two wonderful meetings for a great massage with a very happy and satisfied endings.

So now that I'm back on the land of Lenin where can I go or who I can see to repeat this experience?

To Stravinsky, I'll be in MOW off and on for at least another 2 weeks.

I look forward to the responses.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]EK,

Do you speak Russian at all? You know, more than just "da" and "nyet"?[/QUOTE]Nyet.

I am working on it but certainly not capable in any meaningful way. I can ride the metro and find my way out. That is about it.

[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I'm American. Our economy is so much in the crapper right now, I might even consider doing it for 200 Euro if things get any more desperate.

What the Hell. You said you just want a great massage and there's no sex involved :-). According to the reports I read, it won't be much different than your last Russian experience :-)

I speak fluent English by the way.[/QUOTE]

Captain - how about a SSB/Pizdyets double-team? I'm well versed on Russian history, culture and architecture and speak flawless English. SSB can even film the encounter for your grandkids. Think "My Dinner with Andre" moved from NYC to Moscow...

Seriously, Strav has posted on a number of rug-n-tugs which should deliver the goods and at significantly lower prices than Lenechka's. Udachi tebe.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Captain. How about a SSB/Pizdyets double-team? I'm well versed on Russian history, culture and architecture and speak flawless English. SSB can even film the encounter for your grandkids. Think "My Dinner with Andre" moved from NYC to Moscow.

Seriously, Strav has posted on a number of rug-n-tugs which should deliver the goods and at significantly lower prices than Lenechka's. Udachi tebe. [/QUOTE]I am RTFF for Strav's info.

I think I'll have to pass on your most generous offer Pizdyets for some 4 hands fun. Regardless of what you may have heard I (please choose from one of the following):

A) was young and needed the money

B) was drunk

C) was not aware they were filming and never signed a release

D) thought you were my wife

I will probably try Night Flight, Che, and The Real McCoy. At this point I think I'm more interested in exploring the "non-pro" night life and getting the full Moscow experience.

If any of you are going to be heading out feel free to hit me up.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Piper1]I doubt it. Helena knew he's an ISG member and that he would probably report here, so for things to go so wrong, there's clearly more to the story. Let's face it, El Kapitan has issues, and he should switch from ISG to the Discovery Channel.Interesting. Tell us more, if you are genuine.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what my "issues" are other than I prefer a massage and HJ/cbj to throwing my junk up in the ass of any WG willing to sell it. Everyone must make decisions that reconcile their desire, their knowledge of things that can go wrong, and set their comfort level for risk. My preference is born of a comfort level for risk vs. Reward. I have met many a WG who I would like nothing better than to lock myself away with for a weekend. But in the end my personal comfort level is not there for this activity.

I have no issue with other hobbyists who have a greater tolerance for risk or greater sexual adventure. To each his own. This is one of the last places I would expect to find a lot of "holier than thou" and judgmental behavior.

I remember seeing your name quite a bit in the Dubai forum where I have spent some time myself so I reviewed it. I pulled some girls out of Rockafella's and Rattle Snake myself for exactly what I wanted. Which was a nice massage and CBJ from a hot girl at a good price.

I don't wish to re-energize this dead thread but I also don't wish to be insulted by a stranger. Especially one I am not paying.

I respect your knowledge and experience in the wild world of mongering Piper. I really enjoy your reports and humor and don't wish to enter into a cyber pissing match.

Perhaps I should have let your comments float on by but I don't think this is a place any of us should be afraid to report on our experiences or our preferences.

PS. I also believe that if anyone cares to check I am consistent on what I look for and have only ever given 1 bad review.

I will accept equal responsibility for the bad experience I had with Helena.

I assumed that if an escort charges 200EU / 2 hr that this would normally include the usual chat, sex, etc. The fact that I did not wish to have intercourse or perform oral sex on the escort I would have thought if anything would constitute a DECREASE in provided services, not an increase or unusual "non-standad" request such as anal, bareback, etc.

Assumptions are always bad and especially so when crossing cultural lines. I should not have said "chat, massage, and we will see where it goes". As someone else pointed out I was misinformed that prostitution in Russia is illegal. The feedback this forum has provided as led me to develop my new standard request phrasing:

"I want a thorough full body massage followed by a combination of manual digital manipulation of my genitalia (handjob) and oral sex (blowjob) with a condom to ejaculation. My asshole is off limits. I expect your pictures to be recent and accurate with no photoshopping. I expect the time that we agree to will be honored and there will be no limit as to the number of times I may ejaculate. I expect a good attitude and professional behavior during the session. If any of these expectation are not met I will not honor the agreed to price".

I have realized the error of my ways and will adjust my negotiations accordingly.

On on a side note if Rusdosug.com had not been offline or if Natasha had answered her cell then it may very well have been a different evening altogether. I should have exercised patience and waited for one of my higher choices. Always trust your gut.

Enough said.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]I am RTFF for Strav's info.

I think I'll have to pass on your most generous offer Pizdyets for some 4 hands fun. Regardless of what you may have heard I (please choose from one of the following):

A) was young and needed the money

B) was drunk

C) was not aware they were filming and never signed a release

D) thought you were my wife

I will probably try Night Flight, Che, and The Real McCoy. At this point I think I'm more interested in exploring the "non-pro" night life and getting the full Moscow experience.

If any of you are going to be heading out feel free to hit me up.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

LOL!

Yes, I strongly suggest Che. Make a dinner reservation if you want to guarantee admission (food ain't half bad).

Tunnel can also be fun - I usually drop by there around 5am to see what sluts are left alone or are willing to dump their dork-for-a-night "boyfriends". But it's bottom trawling at best, and I'm not talking Patagonian Toothfish.

[quote=helena moscow]priamos, king is a person born in a royal family and sitting in a trone. client is a person who pays for service. see the difference? client is in the same position with a person offering service. because they exchange equivalent things. client doesn't pay more than service costs and he doesn't pay less. he pays as agreed. both client and provider can be right or wrong, there is no previllage for anyone. [/quote]

yeah, well, sorry for "flogging a dead horse" but i really don't understand why you're being so aggressive, helena. the words i proffered, "the client is king", are not an assertive claim of superiority that i personally have devised. in fact, they are an american figure of speech that you hear all the time in the united states, repeated more or less as the "creed" of their client oriented commercial economy. if you have a problem with that, fine, who am i to judge people? however, some of your staunch supporters on this thread are - if i can judge from their english - americans, and "the client is king" will be (using another yank colloquialism) "like motherhood and apple pie" to them.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]

"I want a thorough full body massage followed by a combination of manual digital manipulation of my genitalia (handjob) and oral sex (blowjob) with a condom to ejaculation. My asshole is off limits. I expect your pictures to be recent and accurate with no photoshopping. I expect the time that we agree to will be honored and there will be no limit as to the number of times I may ejaculate. I expect a good attitude and professional behavior during the session. If any of these expectation are not met I will not honor the agreed to price".[/QUOTE]

El Kap

To learn the lay of the land in Moscow you need to either hook up with either fellow experienced ISG members or expats living in Moscow.

For expats try the Hot Dog or other venues that cater to that client base. Irish pubs are also good.

Then meet people and pick their brains for suggestions. Works well for me.

As to your other criteria its’ going to get lost in the lengthy presentation.

Solution is simple. Act like the true dog you are and approach as a Russian man would.

#1- 1st is “I have paid and bought for your ass.” You will do as requested and take pride in what you do. They know that but like children will test boundaries.

#2- Show up at my door looking like your picture or you will be sent home.

#3- Payment will be after service is provided. Those insisting on upfront are usually the worst performers. Refer to #2. Show them money; do not release it until you finish with full satisfaction.

If it’s a salon leave a good tip visible and they will perform, as will the other girls when you return already known as a good tipper.

I always tip for good performance and find it helps for future sessions or in the same salon or escort service.

The amazing thing here is that these rules are what the RU girls are accustomed to. RU women are second-class citizens and have been for thousands of years. Take advantage of that.

It’s the pussy whipped sex starved Western tourists that have fucked things up.

Be firm, be a man and be demanding and all will be fine. The RU women respect a firm man and will walk all over a weak one.

You might want to reconsider your prostate hesitations, makes for one hell of an intense finish. :) IMHO Halfway kidding…..

Long as you are confirmed straight it’s no big deal.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88]Long as you are confirmed straight it’s no big deal.

Guido88[/QUOTE]If you enjoy having something shoved into your ass I am not sure how you can confirm you are straight! :)

I actually have tried it on a couple of occasions (not so fast...with women that I trusted) and found it uncomfortable and got no pleasure from it. If anything was a little painful. So not my cup of tea.

I appreciate the rest of your advice and will try to put it to good use.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]If you enjoy having something shoved into your ass I am not sure how you can confirm you are straight! :)

I actually have tried it on a couple of occasions (not so fast...with women that I trusted) and found it uncomfortable and got no pleasure from it. If anything was a little painful. So not my cup of tea.

I appreciate the rest of your advice and will try to put it to good use.[/QUOTE]
I think you are misunderstanding Guido's recommendation about what get's placed where. Clear communications are essential in this business.

Reminds me of a funny story about a guy heading out to Dubai the first time, stop me if you have heard this one before...

The new guy, we will call him Piper, arrives in a isolated construction camp in the desert. The project manager shows him around, housing, dining, recreational facilities, with satellite TV, etc. Piper looks around at the all-male crew and says, "Sure, this is all very nice, but what do you do ... you know ... about sex?"

"Oh, that's not a problem, when we get horny, we just go down behind the shed there, and use that camel," the project manager explains, pointing out a rather mangy looking animal tied up to a palm tree.

Piper just shakes his head and says to himself, "No way I will ever get that desperate!"

But the work is hard and the days are hot and the nights are long and after a couple of weeks Piper is getting hornier and hornier and the camel is looking better and better...

So finally one day Piper breaks down and runs over to the camel, drops his pants and starts shagging the bleating beast. When he is finished he looks around and sees the rest of the crew staring and snickering at him.

"What are you all looking at!" Piper shouts, "You said you all use the camel when you get horny!"

The project manager shakes his head and says, "When we get horny, we use the camel ... to ride to the *****house in town!"

Nice!

However,

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I think you are misunderstanding Guido's recommendation about what get's placed where. Clear communications are essential in this business.
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[QUOTE=Guido88] You might want to reconsider your prostate hesitations, makes for one hell of an intense finish. IMHO Halfway kidding…..[/QUOTE]

I was pretty sure Guido88 was talking about having a finger inserted in your ass for a "prostate massage" which supposedly creates a very intense orgasm. As Austin Powers said, "It's not my bag baby."

GT,

HA! Good one, never heard that before.