Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1663193]Mr G has more insights to give us and I am looking forward to it. However, you can't lock down no pussy in a foreign country. ReRead Chris report. If you are a good customer the chica will clear her calendar for your return. Sending money to a requesting chica is no insurance on any but a request for more money soon after. Mr G told us of his pass ex chicas violating his generosity. He no longer goes this route but he has been there and has matured. The WU Novia route did not work for him. He is in recovery. It does works for some so I am told. I will admit I am on the out side looking in.[/QUOTE]I was thinking would be the board over all opinion on such thing and the effect it has on the relationship / transaction.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1663158]I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.[/QUOTE]Surfer I (Mr cheap dress buyer) will be the last person to say you shouldn't send give gifts or money to you girlfriends. When a chica lets her performance do the talking I usually reward more. I. though cheap have no problem rewarding and I love surprising a special chica that has my respect. I don't think every monger should be like me. I am still young in the game. I remember one monger saying his chicas threw a surprise birthday party for him. I can definitely see me surprising her on her birthday to go pick up a couple of dollars from Western Union. Wait a minute can you send a couple of dollars. Well anyway. I was referring to these putas requests for money. I have heard it one too many times you get weak and grant their requests. Then they press harder until you give up and either stop talking to them or grant their request again and again. Once again I am on the outside looking in. Newbies I cannot tell you the benefits of sending money at a chicas request. I cannot tell you the benefits of smoking crack only what I've seen and read about. It's not a good ending.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1663158]I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.[/QUOTE]Although we are all on team monger, each man here has a specific philosophy and strategy that he is employing. I do not send remittances to chicas, but I have met normal upstanding guys who do. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong? I believe in "no string attached" with these girls, but I know many guys who maintain an overseas girlfriend. How can I tell them that it is a bad idea?

On the other hand, I definitely believe that it pays not to be too cheap. It's possible to be too generous, and it's also possible to be too cheap. I blow a lot of money each year on this hobby, and it's a luxury good for me. I do it for the total package of the experience, the camaraderie, the exotic locations, the extreme liberty, etc. At the end of the day, an extra few dollars isn't that important. If I want to save money, then I should stay home.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1663106]It's not the big butts that I like it's the phat firm asses with slender waist. Athletically built or TrackStar bodies. Hey Chris draw a mustache and or beard on you chicas and watch surfer go crazy.[/QUOTE]I like me some volleyball asses:

I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.

I want to keep it simple, but. What comes to my mind?

1) People usually appreciate things they earn or work for. And take for granted things they get with no effort.

2) If anything you give has any hint of expecting something in return, then be prepared to be disappointed if your gesture fails to gratify your ego or the recipient is not as GENUINELY appreciative as you had hoped. Or your gesture does not buy you the consideration you had hoped.

Application: If one sends a girl some money, but is doing so for the following reasons: Dude feels his days of enjoying good sex with a hot babe are numbered, rationalizes that it's not a lot of money, is using the money to maintain good relations or lines of communications, these are all emotion based reasons. Responses. Where oh where did the principle of mongering go? Sticking to principle is one of the pillars of monger code, am I right?. Similarly to how pimps succeed in their trade, by sticking to the goal of making money and not falling for the con games, tricks would pull on their pimps. Any sign of weakness contributes to a loss of control, and eventually loss of respect and revenue. The impression you make and your motivation for giving has some impact on how you are perceived.

3) Are the women we want to let our guards down with, are they having sex with other men when we retreat back to our regular lives? Or are their pussies in a holding pattern waiting only for us to get back there to take care of their needs? As one ponders this, what's more important here, satisfying ones emotions or sticking to the principle?

4) What ever happened to paying only when services are rendered? What is sending money WU going to buy you? That you can't get if you didn't send it. Again, just ponder this for a minute.

5) If you didn't send this money, will we find her dead carcass somewhere because you didn't send money? Since when did you become responsible for someones problems when you were never required to or expected to before? Doesn't a yellow or red flag give cause for concern for how you might be perceived as a Mark? Being perceived as someone who can afford to give away money. Personally, I don't want nobody coming to me for money mainly because they think I don't really need it or because I have an abundance of it. And especially since they arent exhausting other options 1st, or willing to do without. Thats principle rearing it's ugly head again.

6) Will honoring an initial request potentially set a dude up for future requests? Mongering experience has the answer to that question?

7) How many other men are being asked to give the same amount of money? Point being, if other men are being asked along with you, one might want to know where their contribution ranks amongst the other guys turn?

8) It's easier for many to succumb to satisfying their egos / emotions, than denying that and doing the work it takes in sticking to a worthwhile principle where the rewards seem non existent. But far more gratifying in the long run. The esotoric few, know this and practice this.

9) If a dude insists on sending money, he is under no obligation to pay twice when he comes to town. But be mindful, paying in advance almost always has one coming up short in terns of returns on ones investment. Like a contractor given 90% for an uncompleted job. It's human nature to lose interest in prioritizing someone when the job was paid but not completed.

10) One of the better assurances of getting what you pay for on a personal level, is to tap into what one is motivated by. But it is better to reward when there is commensurate reciprocation, in the moment. Women are like cats, kids, or relatives who borrow money. They don't always associate behavior in one moment with behavior in another moment. They respond more to what happens in the moment, and forget anything that happens other occasions. You could easily kill a womans motivation for giving you future comfort by paying for her approval of you. Thats exactly what that money may represent to the woman, paid approval. Not a good place for a man to be in, monger or not.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1663302]I want to keep it simple, but. What comes to my mind?

10) . Women are like cats, kids, or relatives who borrow money. They don't always associate behavior in one moment with behavior in another moment. They respond more to what happens in the moment, and forget anything that happens other occasions. You could easily kill a womans motivation for giving you future comfort by paying for her approval of you. Thats exactly what that money may represent to the woman, paid approval. Not a good place for a man to be in, monger or not.[/QUOTE]11) WRX2004 AKA Sigmund Freud.

[QUOTE=KConstant;1663219]Although we are all on team monger, each man here has a specific philosophy and strategy that he is employing. I do not send remittances to chicas, but I have met normal upstanding guys who do. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong? I believe in "no string attached" with these girls, but I know many guys who maintain an overseas girlfriend. How can I tell them that it is a bad idea?

On the other hand, I definitely believe that it pays not to be too cheap. It's possible to be too generous, and it's also possible to be too cheap. I blow a lot of money each year on this hobby, and it's a luxury good for me. I do it for the total package of the experience, the camaraderie, the exotic locations, the extreme liberty, etc. At the end of the day, an extra few dollars isn't that important. If I want to save money, then I should stay home.[/QUOTE]What have I started here? Its all good because its a thought inspiring conversation. Everyone's opinion counts because someone is going to get something out of it. Your last two sentences sums up my feelings perfectly.

I never understand why dudes send girls Western Union. I'm a Gringo but I was never a stupid Gringo. One thing I know about girls is that if they really love you don't need to send her any money. Or like the Old Timers, if you want too keep Fake People around you always, Act Broke!

People generally would be impressed or appreciative of someone who helped them, moreso when that person sacrificed to do so. One who shares their last. But how appreciative would a recipient be towards someone who appears rich compared to themselves? In other words, if one with significantly less than you asks you for money, do they regard your compliance as someone who sacrificed to do so? Or would your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?

It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1663328] Your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?

It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.[/QUOTE]1) I think this is the mentality of the most of the people that deal with tourist in the DR.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1663153].
We will have many years together in this game brother and I can see in the near future you emailing me telling you found"The one" [/QUOTE]I had a girlfriend that asked me if she can give me everything I need in a woman will I have the need to cheat on her. I responded hell no I don't have to go and find another Chick you will be searching and bringing the new bitches home. She did say give me everything I need in a woman.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1663174]I speak to BQ regularly and our relationship in the past has kind of been the same as me and Grownman now. I always told him to be a playa but he had two favoritas that he rotated his time with in SD. He cooked meals for them and took them to movies and I thought he was weak for this. He would get in my ass about fucking Sosua skanks. He knew that his happiness was found in one or two good ones and not in the heard. He has a penthouse on the malecon that's awesome. He has schooled me on my mistakes and I wouldn't listen before. Now that I've grown I'm seeing what he was showing me even though I wasn't listening then.

Happy New Year fellas.[/QUOTE]So that is that light at the end of the tunnel; I will be 10 years older than Charles P by the time I get there.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1663328]People generally would be impressed or appreciative of someone who helped them, moreso when that person sacrificed to do so. One who shares their last. But how appreciative would a recipient be towards someone who appears rich compared to themselves? In other words, if one with significantly less than you asks you for money, do they regard your compliance as someone who sacrificed to do so? Or would your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?

It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.[/QUOTE]I'm willing to step into this debate. I respect your ability to size up different situations from different angles and come to a logical conclusion but my approach is more basic. I never think about if the girl thinks about my generosity being appreciated because I give freely. I can always no. If she comes when I call her and acts as if she wants to be there and shows me the time of my life, why would I care if she appreciates my hard earned money that I gave freely? Its basic to me, do what I want, how I want, and I will be generous, its not complicated why make it so? Its seems some of us put ourselves on a pedestal and wave the money around asking for things because they are poor. I know you are going to eat that up as being contradictory, but let me explain. I don't look at it as if I'm doing them a favor because they are poor. I look at it as I'm paying them to fulfill my fantasy, nothing more. The benefit about travel for this fantasy is that I'm able to disconnect and go back to my regular life at any time. In America its not that easy to disconnect and live in America without repercussions. Maybe she makes problems in your household or on your job etc. With that said, eventually you will come across one that might be worth more of an investment. Her feelings about how hard I work for my money don't matter to me because its peanuts to me because she is making me happy. Isn't that all that matters? WRX you are right about some things, for instance her tells should be analyzed. Does she spend to much time on the phone? Does she appear uncomfortable with you? Does she rush during sex? Does she make everything, about my happiness at that moment? But does she appreciate how hard I worked for this money is none of her business.

If I'm a trust fund baby or a sanitation worker doesn't play into this as long as she fulfills my fantasy. We tend to want to size up the girl beyond the basics. Its as if we are looking for something to use to our advantage to keep this poor girl in check. For me its not about that because that takes it away from why I travel for this fantasy.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1663342]I had a girlfriend that asked me if she can give me everything I need in a woman will I have the need to cheat on her. I responded hell no I don't have to go and find another Chick you will be searching and bringing the new bitches home. She did say give me everything I need in a woman.[/QUOTE]Your not leaning yet grasshopper! New pussy will play out when you discover real pussy. Right now you are just going through the motions trying to get a high count but quality will win out over quantity eventually. In boxing terms; you are just in the preliminary rounds the championship rounds will come. Its levels to this shit!