Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1406032]I was reading this thread, there is a mention on the word "Japanese". Many years ago, walking along Sukumvit road BBK, I came across a place which had a sign that said "Japanese only" There were other massages joints around. Could Japanese people impose, in others countries, what they practice at home? Just curious.[/QUOTE]It's perfectly fine, in LOS, to specify exactly what you want, sex, age, etc, in help wanted ads. It's also OK in LOS (and most other SEA places) to exclude people you don't want coming into your business, whether it's Arabs, white guys or women. It tends to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off westerners, but you're not in the west.

Anyway, the bars in question tend to cater to JP tastes. They tend to look a lot like what a JP businessman might find at home. Sitting, schmoozing, being entertained by hostesses, karaoke maybe, that sort of thing. Definitely not the in-you-face go-go scene, or the sleaze of PTY soi 6 bar. They also often have prices more in line with Tokyo.

Whether or not anybody wants to admit it, Japanese are very racist, as a whole. They're nice about it, but it's still a fact. And many feel more comfortable letting their hair down around others of their own nationality. Having said that, they JP guys I've hung out with in SEA tended to be friendly and decent, but they do tend to be clannish.

[QUOTE=RBDave;1406048]What's your strategy on TLL? I have a profile and am getting shit loads of Ghana scam girls, a few "nice" girls, and thus far only one party girl.[/QUOTE]First, you have to clearly define what you're after. Do you want a nice girl, or a party girl?

If you're just looking for a party girl, it's a lot easier just to go to a bar. Or, as Mr. LP said, contact them a few days before you arrive and just tell them you're coming to party. That'll weed out the non-hos.

I've spent a fair amount of time TLL and other sites and have found several really nice, attractive women 10. 15 years my junior. They have good jobs, good salaries, their own houses and cars, and have never darkened the door of a naughty bar. There were a few party girls, too, but I wasn't really looking in that age bracket and most were no better than girls you might find in lower Sukhumvit.

The biggest single complaint from the girls was that so many guys (the non-Nigerian Scammers, that is) were just looking for cam sex or free hookers. If you just want to whack off on cam, join a site that specializes in that. LOL If you're looking for party girls, I'd suggest trolling the 18 to maybe 25 group, but you'll need to be somewhere very close to that age yourself. The older women aren't into partying as much, and the younger ones don't want to party with their father. If you're looking for a "nice" girl, I can guaran-damn-tee you she won't show up unescorted and hop into bed on your first date, unless you have already built up a relationship with chat / webcam over several months. If she does, then she's one step from a regular bar girl, but probably too lazy to work in a bar.

Bottom line, in any case it will take a fair amount of time to find, interview, weed out the misfits, etc. So, you'll need your objectives clearly defined in your own mind in order to determine if that sort of investment is worth it.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1406186]First, you have to clearly define what you're after. Do you want a nice girl, or a party girl?

If you're just looking for a party girl, it's a lot easier just to go to a bar. Or, as Mr. LP said, contact them a few days before you arrive and just tell them you're coming to party. That'll weed out the non-hos.

I've spent a fair amount of time TLL and other sites and have found several really nice, attractive women 10. 15 years my junior. They have good jobs, good salaries, their own houses and cars, and have never darkened the door of a naughty bar. There were a few party girls, too, but I wasn't really looking in that age bracket and most were no better than girls you might find in lower Sukhumvit.

The biggest single complaint from the girls was that so many guys (the non-Nigerian Scammers, that is) were just looking for cam sex or free hookers. If you just want to whack off on cam, join a site that specializes in that. LOL If you're looking for party girls, I'd suggest trolling the 18 to maybe 25 group, but you'll need to be somewhere very close to that age yourself. The older women aren't into partying as much, and the younger ones don't want to party with their father. If you're looking for a "nice" girl, I can guaran-damn-tee you she won't show up unescorted and hop into bed on your first date, unless you have already built up a relationship with chat / webcam over several months. If she does, then she's one step from a regular bar girl, but probably too lazy to work in a bar.

Bottom line, in any case it will take a fair amount of time to find, interview, weed out the misfits, etc. So, you'll need your objectives clearly defined in your own mind in order to determine if that sort of investment is worth it.[/QUOTE]Some very good words there. I have never done the TLL dating scene, but have some friends who have met some pretty great gals on there. As you said, jobs, cars, houses, aged mainly in their early to mid-30s.

I remember a post on here recently from some dude complaining about a rise in prices saying SW are now 2000 B.

BS.

Everyone I have spoken to (about 15) is asking 1000 B. That should be for BBBJ, kissing and sex (usually covered). But clarify what you want. Don't assume.

Some of the really cute ones might ask 1500, but say 1000 and they will go.

I have hit up two already this morning.

There were a few SW's near Starbuck's on Suk.

Soi 11 MP area is usually good for an early shag. A few of those places have girls at 7am.

The first MP on the right at the first row of them walking from Suk. Girl named waew (pronounce whale). She looks a little goofy, but in a cute way. Probably not everybody's type. Age 29.

1500 B. Kissing, BBBJ, covered sex. Her BBBJ was really outstanding and went for a long time. She has a series of tats on her back that are very sexy.

Went to Starbuck's.

Walked down Nana. There is another early place on the Nana plaza side of the street a ways down across from the farthest Hillary bar. The girls sit out near the street in chairs in an alleyway. There is an Apt. Building behind them they take you to. I have met some nice girls there. I admit maybe 1 in 5 is decent. This morning only 2 girls. One Bom age 30. Ok, she does not look that great but has a nice smile and is very friendly. Her body is slim and decent. It was a love fest. Everything total GF Her pussy gets really tight when you stick your finger in her AH in doggie. It was one of the best sessions I have had. 1500 B.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1406177]You want to know how screwed up people who spend large amounts of time in BKK are. Ill give you an example.

I was willing to let go of a hot Rainbow 4 girl just cause she up my price $7. LOL. I bought into the theory don't spoil the freakin market.

Well guys, superstars set the rules- NOT us.

In the last week I could only chat to my favorite twice, she has customers all over her. Now ill have to use some charm to see if she will even go with me- OMG she might charge me $7 more dollars. LOL.[/QUOTE]Although it is a given that these girls are not as well educated as their Western equivalents they are not stupid either. They also have seasoned bar girls chipping in as a sort of mentor when needed. These ladies quickly pick up the concept of supply and demand. Their customer base increases so they up the asking price, sure a few customers will drop out and go else where but the overall result is that the ladies make more money and at the end of the day this is what they are there to do. Just don't get fleeced or fall for the girl and become a sponsor. A fate which has snared so many people.

Regards,

BJ

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1405951]Same same.[/QUOTE]Your wise advice is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1406179]Whether or not anybody wants to admit it, Japanese are very racist, as a whole. They're nice about it, but it's still a fact. .[/QUOTE]I don't think the Japanese are "racist", but they are "xenophobic", which is quite different.

And this xenophobia is not an individual trait, but a societal trait.

Meet any Japanese abroad, and they will be most friendly to any foreigner.

Get lost in the middle of Tokyo, and within seconds, somebody will come and ask if you need help (Did you ever got that in, say, Paris or London?).

But, as a society, they are very much clannish, and fearful of the foreigners. They recognise differences in habits, cultures, and, as they hate confrontations, they prefer to prevent any such issues with the well known "Japanese only "sign. When I read some comments on this board on the japanese threads, from some loose cannons, I almost understand the japanese approach. And speaking a few words of japanese, does actually break a lot of "japanese only" barriers, which supports the view that is not racism, but fear fo misunderstandings.

[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1406081]Would never step foot in one.

Thought that was where the LadyBoys get it in.

I'm not trying to follow dick on dick but more power to you guys that like that.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this. Each to their own but not for me. I tried the one in the corner of Nana Plaza once about 18 months ago and never again! It was one of the seediest places I have ever visited and bear in mind I have been to Glasgow.

Regards.

BJ

Heading to the airport!

Next stop, Bangkok!

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1406339]I don't think the Japanese are "racist", but they are "xenophobic", which is quite different.

And this xenophobia is not an individual trait, but a societal trait.

Meet any Japanese abroad, and they will be most friendly to any foreigner.

Get lost in the middle of Tokyo, and within seconds, somebody will come and ask if you need help (Did you ever got that in, say, Paris or London?).

But, as a society, they are very much clannish, and fearful of the foreigners. They recognise differences in habits, cultures, and, as they hate confrontations, they prefer to prevent any such issues with the well known "Japanese only "sign. When I read some comments on this board on the japanese threads, from some loose cannons, I almost understand the japanese approach. And speaking a few words of japanese, does actually break a lot of "japanese only" barriers, which supports the view that is not racism, but fear fo misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]I absolutely concur about the xenophobia. Your points are accurate and well taken. Spot on with the lost, looking for directions thing. A friend of mine confirms. The only other place I've had a similar thing happen was in San Francisco, of all places. Other western cities? Fuggedaboudit.

My take is that there is also a good dose of "we're a special people." It's not your fault you're not Japanese, so we'll be nice about it. But you'll never be our equal because you're not Japanese. You'll always be a barbarian, or perhaps gaijin is more accurate. You see similar in Mexico, for instance, where many consider themselves part of the "noble race." In LOS you'll always be farang no matter what. So, if that's not racism, it's the next best thing.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1406552]I absolutely concur about the xenophobia. So, if that's not racism, it's the next best thing.[/QUOTE]Slightly different take. Racism is a bias against a specific ethnicity. Whites against blacks, Christians against Muslims. Xenophobia is a general bias against anything that is not identical to you. For instance, Japanese against any non-japanese, whether white, black or other yellow. Just POV

one night . one day in bangkok, j-one, dr. blowjob, som's heaven.

arrived late at bkk, finally it was 22:00 when i left my hotel at soi2 to go for a soapy foam adventure. last time i was here i was well treated, at atami, but this huge placed closed some years go. annies massage was the place i was going for, i was tiered and was not carefully investigating the addresses, asked a few tuktuk, nobody even knew the name, or they wanted me just to have in the vehicle to bring the mongers to a pace of their choice. oh man, annies was at soi 2 and my hotel was at soi 2, but i was just too much dazzled by the time leg of my flight. i had the idea it should be somewhere near soi3 / grace hotel, walked it up, asked all kind of peoples, was sent to all kind of direction. finally one street man pretended to know it, he would walk me there. we walked up all along soi3 until railway lines came, we arrived at a place called plazza entie complex, eurndy / capidy massage (?). mamasan said girls at left side 2500 bhat, girls right side 3500bhat. was not having so much money with me anyhow. asked some other europes about the price here. 'we don't know, maybe 4000? '. i escaped. was desperate, it was already 23:00 these places close at midnight. a tuktuk driver said 'i know'. we landed at j-one massage. big place. i got miss jon (#10) for 3000 (or was it 2500, don't remember?). a cutey, heaven if a young chick, she rubs her soapy body around a man. she had good technique. ok after soap session, sucking session and fu* session, all was ok. she has a baby. she is from isan (of course). felt well after.

sunday lunchtime, there were local election and most bars stayed closed. wanted to check dr. blowjob before i would be heading to cambodia this late afternoon. enough girls were around, i just liked one or two of them i went for the 1000bhat option, the bar manager, a foreigner explained there is no real sharp line between the 800bhat girl and 1000bhat girls. forgot her name, she was kind of tall and her lips looked sexy, cute face and nice attitude. 1st floor they have cabins with curtains and real comfortable king-size chairs. the wash basin is modified in a way to comfort your prick. she gave my best part a good shower. blow –work was very well and i enjoyed her licking and sucking my best part. 30 minutes was he sponsored time. looked like i might come in the very beginning, did not cede this feeling as enough time was left. oh yes, i need recovery time of at least 24 hours for a new shot, the last sperm jumping was juts ½ day ago at midnight with lovely jon. i explained my lady that i would / could not come, but that she should not worry, i reassured she was good. sorry no tip. some hours later i was away in the air towards cambodia.

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tuesday. 23:00 back in bkk again after a week. went for dr. blowjob, soi7/1 again. 2 ladies with a fresh face were sitting in front of the establishment, together with other girls of the bar. one was holding a menu / 700/1000bhat. i went to her with cheerful face and i told her: its her i would like to go. shit, she was not for service, just doing publicity for the bar. ok. 2nd one was cute too. same again, an angry lady showed up and explained that both girls are not available, but all the others. i got angry too, why she sits in front of this bar when she is a fake! went inside, all girls paraded, not one was pleasing me.

continued to famous eden club next doors, had gorgeous moments at this place 5 yers ago. ups 4500 bhat per session. 90 min with 2 girls. but girls where bad, bad, old, nothing fresh and cute. place was completely empty no customers. continued to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] at soi 8. completely empty too. took miss dao, tall girl, round face. holy shit, no cock washing facilities upstairs, she even complained that i wanted to wash my best part. finally she opened the toilet, a bucket of water was there, no soap, she pretended not to understand the word soap. blowing was medium level, no cim, she firmly closed her lips when i came. hey, blowjob bar with no cim, not possible, bad service!

continued to soi cowboy. stepped in at 'ater school bar' they tried to please me with an unattractive young girl. no room for sucking they have, blowjob for 800 would be done in some dark corner of the room. was not tempted, my eggs were empty anyhow. soi cowoy is extremely busy, noisy, the more girls i saw the less i was feeling to go with them. 'come in mister, come in', small talk. i hate, girls you hardly can talk anything with them. checked som's heaven. its on soi10. quiet corner. girls welcomed me and i liked tall miss sa. i was sitting with her. i liked her from the 1st minute, decided to take her for overnight. paid 500 bar fee, it was late, one o clock in the morning, thought there would be no bar fee t that time any more? sa wanted 3000, she came down to 2500, but i gave her 3000 next day, as she was good. we walked to nana hotel. i was curious if she would complain long walking and ask for a taxi, but she did not. sex was great with her, clean and small pussy, we fu. ed long and from all sides, think she came and she called me cool, cool. blow job was weak, just licking with tongue, no real sucking. wonder how in a blow job bar she could stand with this? great gf sex, but not much caressing and technique from her side. nice sleeping next to her. another session in the morning. she is from isan. she did not like i checked her name on her i'd card, she had a christian name andrea? ok all 4 today air plane was leaving in the evening anyhow.

john