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[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Careful. You asked to see the manager but you didn't really want to see the manager. They're all triad. They won't mess with a gweilo (if you are one), but why stir the pot? The mamas are there for a very defined task--show you the girls, bring you a drink, take your money and see you out the door up to the hotel. They may ask you how you liked it afterward but they are not there for customer service. There basically is no customer service. YMMV in all mongering experiences. Many girls at 37D will do anal, just get back on the horse and try again.[/QUOTE]

I'm amazed that this needed saying, but obviously did. Is Hong Kong some Nevada colony where you speak to a lawyer if the locals don't do as they're told??

I'm not sure if Wadman's later comment about getting them to inspect the size of his dick beforehand was facetious or not. Never mind triads, try adapting to a country's system of etiquette a bit - not to mention a bit of inter-gender empathy. If you speak to a top class western escort who 'does' anal, she will still usually hedge it with conditions, and it's not always to swindle you. Some women can open their rear hole wide on demand just like some can deep throat. But for a great number it is something that requires a little expertise on the part of the male so that she's eased into it.

Now of course I could have read that completely wrong. Contrary to other mongers' experiences and my own, Dundas 37 might throw in rip-offs and deliberately mislead. But think how much a person with minimal language and HK culture skills is misleading quite unintentionally. HK girls are not the same as Chinese and have little of the 'peasant doing as I'm told' mentality.



I recall a situation once where, in a normally perfectly business-like joint, I didn't click with the attitude of the woman and made a complaint. A kindly (and rather large) doorman appeared out of thin air. He gently and politely ushered me towards an office but, instead of inviting me in, stood with me at the top of a broken iron staircase with two other kindly looking thugs. They could afford to look benign - it was obvious they could trash me with as little hassle as trashing a cigarette stub. They didn't even say anything, just stood there. I had the option of a deep dive or of opening negotiations!

Many thanks for all the advice here. So just my 2 cents worth.

With Fenwicks. I like to go 9ish. And focus on the sweet looking girls who look as if they just got off the boat.

They tend to let you decide the price and if you treat them real nice they give back in return is bucketfuls.

The other week was there. Did my round of Fenwicks. Avoided the girls scamming for drinks as I got my own. Avoided the aggresive ones who pounce on you. As they tend to have inflated prices for little return.

Saw one cutie. Not slim but curvy with a very sweet face. Looked a bit lost hovering at entrance. Approached her and just asked if I could help her. She seemed happy with the company. Had arrived a few days so was quite new at it. Pinoy girl from Manila. Student nurse. Looking to pay for her next semester. Offered to get her out fo there and have dinner. She said yes and we had a nice quite dinner with lots of wine down the road. I asked if she wanted to come over to my hotel. Then she mentioned what was the deal. I said HK$ 800 all night. She immediately said yes. Hmmm better than I thought.

Went to my hotel. Which was the Conrad. Grabbed some cocktails from 711 on the way.

In the room we sat down and opened the drinks and started to chat a bit. Before long she started to take initiatibe and giving a very full on DFK which went on and on. She had great lips and enthusisatic tongue. Before long she was unzipping me and going down on with equal enthusiasm as I started removing all her clothes. This took some time and was rather exquisite foreplay. Then she wanted to shower. But seperately. Which I was amendable to as I could get some energy back.

She was first then me. When I came out she was lying rather seductively in bed. I hopped in and from that momemt on I was give the most incredile GFE sex.

This went on all night with a couple of breaks in between.

We woke up at 7pm. Me to work. Her to back to her abode.

She let me her number and email and as I had one more night in HKG and really could not be bothered to chase a newbie again I rang her for another session. She came over at 7pm and for the same deal we were at it til the next morning.

All in all a great time and mindblowing sex for HK$ 1600 and dinner and some wine. The effort was minimal but the return exceptional.

So. The morale of my tale is. Keep an eye on the sweet ones because behidn that sweetness is a horny Filipino dying to get out.

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Hello to everyone,

I have been in HK many times in the last 3 years, but never stayed for more than 1-2 days as I usually go to/from Shenzhen, so I never mongered in HK itself. This time I'm here for 6 days for the first time and could not miss this opportunity.

Thanks to the excellent reporting of the fellow mongers, I was well educated in advance what to expect and how to deal with it. Last night my friend and I went to Fenwicks on the advise of El Malo Hombre (thank you for the great detailed report on the bar scene). The place was jumming around 23:00 and it took us about 15 minutes to find a pair of good looking Vietnamese gals. After a very short and direct negotiations, my girl and I agreed to HK$1200 for the night and I'm not ordering here a ridiculously expensive drink. My friend, amazed by how quickly it was done, stayed while we jumped into taxi and headed for my hotel.

We got into the hotel and I asked her if she wants a drink at the bar. She said No. When we were buying condoms at 7-11 next door, I asked her if she wanted a water or something. She said No. We got into the room, got undressed, went into the shower. A hurried experience to say the least. We get out of the shower and she asks for the money, which I already do not like. A bad sign. I take the money out and put it on the table, telling her she can take it in the morning. And than the Hussle starts.

"The music was loud", she says, "I could not hear the "all night" thing. It was HK$1200 for 1 time". (Of course, 1200 part she heard fine.) I said, honey, this is HK, 1 time does not cost that much here. Where do you think you are? Then the was an offer of two times, then of a BJ, then I was just explained that I owe money fo the taxi. To make long story short I kicked the ***** out without a single penny.

Name: Lin or Lee
Face: 7/10
Body: 7/10
Skill: N/A
Service: N/A

Once she is out of the room (it is 12:10 at night) I switch to plan B – Joye, described by Qiao Han in his post – she is working up to 01:00 in the morning and is recommended.

Good experience. Not a beauty, but very dedicated, nice, hard working lady. For HK$100 more I was given an option of anal or the 2nd time. Did not though experience that pussy muscle action - there was something, but by far not what I expected.

Name:Joey
Face: 6/10
Body: 5/10
Skill: 8/10
Service: 10/10

Today decided to go for a massage and went to King Sauna on Fortress Hill, a block away from my hotel (City Garden). It is on a small side street off Electric Road, you can see the half lit sign saying “una” from there.

The place is a dump (HK$326 for 90 minutes massage). The girl knew what massage was, but nobody taught her how to do it. After about 1 hour of repeating the same moves on my back I was asked if I’d like a special service. I said Yes and was declared HK$900 for full service. I said they must be crazy and asked how much is a BJ. An English speaking attendant showed up and announced that HJ is HK$800. I said that for this kind of money my experienced hand will do much better and left. Then I realized that the quote likely included the “massage” HK$326, but even then I find the price ridiculous. On my way out I saw no less than 4 other girls in different rooms, all good looking. Stay away nonetheless.

Good hunting everybody!

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I came to Hong Kong for the first time in 15 years on business.

And I want to share my experience with you.

I think everybody knows that "141 system" in Hong Kong.

[url]http://******.com/en/main.php[/url]

There are 2 type of fun. "apartment" and "hotel reservation".

"apartment" are much cheaper but you don't know if she is pretty or not but most of "hotel reservation" are shown her face so you can choose your type of girl.

Anyway, thanks to working in Taiwan for long time, I speak Mandarin and I tried "hotel reservation" tonight. In other website says that it is hard for foreigners who doesn't speak Chinese because you have to make reservation with her manager. I started talk in Mandarin but I hardly understood what he said. (his mandarin was more Cantonese) so he started speaking English (sounds Cantonese too). Anyway, I went to the hotel he told me and called him again.

He told me her room # and I went to her room.

Tonight I reserved a beautiful Korean girl "Soke".

[url]http://******.com/en/viewid.php?uid=26529&region=-1&building=-1&territory=-1&age=-1&bsize=-1&height=-1&service=-1&nationality=korea&stype=-1&keyword=[/url]

She is the same as the picture on website.

Although her English was not good, her face and body made me excite.

BJ was with rubber but she kept doing it long time until I said OK.

I switched position many times and she let me kiss her (many BBS says they don't) and I sprayed her tits.

This is my second best experience (still FKK club in Germany is the best).
And it only cost me HK$1000(around US$130).

I strongly recommend you try it when you are in Hong Kong next time.

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Gentlemen,

A small off that may have been discussed before, but I just wanted to ask your opinion: does it make any sense to you (as it does to me) to have another discussion for various countries on subjects that are not necessarily sex related? Most of us are either travelers or expats, possessing a wealth of knowledge and experience we can help each other with. For example, I'm in HKG regularly and would like to maybe make a suite, but I have no clue where to go. It is obvious you can not rely on street peddlers, it is not cheap top go to well known places like Sam's, but maybe our comrades in arms can recommend a good and inexpensive tailor? Same applies to hotels, restaurants, stores, markets, etc.. It is hard to underestimate the amount of knowledge we combined posses and how much it could help all of us to have access to it.

Thank you for your attention.

[QUOTE=Msav2]Gentlemen,

A small off that may have been discussed before, but I just wanted to ask your opinion: does it make any sense to you (as it does to me) to have another discussion for various countries on subjects that are not necessarily sex related? Most of us are either travelers or expats, possessing a wealth of knowledge and experience we can help each other with.[/QUOTE]

There is an excellent pg rated forum that does exactly this:

flyertalk.com > travel & dining section

Had a great time at 37 Dundas tonight. Got there at around 8:30, was given a line up of 4 girls, 3 of whom were imminently acceptable. Took Nan Ji (?), mid-20s with a couple of tattoos. Great performance, with body slide in the shower, BBBJ for 15-20 minutes, then great performance in the bed afterwards.

I've noticed that the mamasans tend to treat you better once they know you (I'm hard to forget). I've been to 37D three times, all in the middle of the week around the same time. First time, no lineup, 1 girl. Second time, 2 girls, third time (tonight), 4. Interesting pattern (but I guess they don't have to worry about business, even in an economic downturn, with their prices!)

Anyway, the main point of this post is to note that walking out of 37D tonight, I discovered that the Kowloon Motor Bus #104 runs directly from the Nathan Road/Dundas Street intersection straight to the heart of Wan Chai, for $9.3. Get off at the Gloucester Road/Fenwick St stop (3rd or 4th stop past the tunnel), and you're a block north of Laguna and Fenwicks. Goes the other way as well. Very convenient if you're in one place or the other and don't want to mess with walking all the way to the MTR, going up and down the corridors, and the mass of people.

In short, no stairs, same amount of time (when factoring in the walking to/from the trains), guaranteed a nice seat, and direct delivery between the 2 most fun places in Hong Kong. Thanks, KMB!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]There is an excellent pg rated forum that does exactly this:

flyertalk.com > travel & dining section[/QUOTE]Thank you, I'll check it out. At the time there could be topics that are probably impossible to discuss on other boards - for example, rating clubs and pars for pickup/value/fun, hotels for girl friendliness, etc.

Hello fellow mongers! This is your unlucky colleague reporting. I guess HK is not for me. From 4 attempts 1 was worth the effort, time and money. I do not remember a time when within 2 days I was naked with a woman and nothing happened twice.

Today I decided to head to the 141 complexes 3 blocks from my hotel. 1/F, 321 King Road, Coronet Court in North Point. First of all, the address is a piece of BS. It takes forever to find that door and when you do there is no 1/F there, only 2/F. I do not know if tenants at 2F wanted to be f. Ked by a stranger for HK$400 and decided not to ask. On my way to 2F I was scared almost to a heart attack by an insane cat, who found nothing better to do than to accelerate and jump on the stairway in front of me out of nowhere, then turn on a dime and jump out of the window. All of this with a horrible scream.

I got down, went to the stores next door and some annoyed neighbor/guard showed me out to North Point Road and that is where the entrance really is.

The girls I looked at at 141 where all busy, but there were many other doors with names from 161, 147, 5514, 26802 and probably even 345678. I got tired of reading nymbers and rung the bell to the first door with a Welcome sign. Other signs on the door included the following information in English: 2B, 100% Pure and Cantonese. I rang the bell. The girl opened, pretty nice, good body. The tits on her picture are clearly loaned from somebody else and since then she returned them to the owner.

Went to the shower. The first bad sign. She washed my rod, but was too lazy to even wash my balls, let alone the rest of my beautiful fat body. Oh-oh, I thought. I was out all day long and either she is pregnant and wants some salty nuts or she does not intend to do anything with them. Well, guess what. She did not. The good thing is that I'm not a lazy lad and it did not bother me to wash my balls with my own hands.

Got to the bad. Attempt was made to start on CBJ, but was quickly repelled. The face of the beauty looked like I want to stuck in her throat something I just pulled out of my ass. "Well. I thought, you should have washed it better honey". After about 2 minutes of a game called "Let's pretend I'm giving you a BBBJ" my beauty ordered me around to change positions, where she'd be on the bed and I, a tired traveler, will do all the work. So I did for a few minutes, rotation to doggy, moaning (sometimes she stopped, I guess forgetting what she was supposed to do at that point) and my decision to play for my money with my rules. I turned her around put her on top of me and she said No. Boy, was I pissed. I said, OK, fine, I'm outta here (I just had 2 of these great experiences, why not take it a step further). She said: "And money? ". "No work, no money" was my manly response with a very angry face. "I'll do everything you wish, my master". Her face said, so she mounted my wild 2 inch stallion and began to ride it all the way until the minute expired. After about 30 seconds the poor thing was so tired. Nonetheless, as I told Lin from Fenwick the other night, I'm a very bad man with the cold, cold heart, who treats *****s like the *****s they are when they do not want to work. So I said, no go on. Ride that choo-choo train baby. Another attempt, no less than 20 seconds. She is tired again. Maybe I never was on my 4s with my ass up and a dick up my pussy, but I could not understand what exactly did she do to be so tired.

In any case, I told her to suck it. OK in rubber (at the end, it takes me forever to finish in it, so she'll have to work more). After about 3-4 minutes of not bad blowing her lips got tired and she switched to the hand. Then again. And again. And again, until finally I see that I'm getting a HJ. Wow, I said. That I can do to myself for free and probably better than you do. If you want to do the hand, at least leak my pouch and thank me for washing it. The half ass effort there too, resulting at her proudly passing my own penis to me stating that she can not do these 2 increadinly difficult tasks at the same time.

At the end she won. I got her up into doggy and finished her off. She barely washed me, I paid $400 (and back to the hotel I checked, she charges $380, so I even tipped the *****) and I was gone. Th experience was lousy, but my empty balls happily chimed along the way.

Therefore my brothers, here is a warning to you to avoid the 2B like a plague she is. Here is more data:

Name: Yeung Yeung
Address: Room 2B, 1/F 321 Kings Rd, Coronet Court, North Point, Nevada, USA
Face: 8/10
Body: 8/10
Professional attitude: 1/10
Skills: 2/10
Value: 1/10

Available at 161, North Point.

Good mongering everybody!

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[QUOTE=Msav2]Thank you, I'll check it out. At the time there could be topics that are probably impossible to discuss on other boards - for example, rating clubs and pars for pickup/value/fun, hotels for girl friendliness, etc.[/QUOTE]

HK hotels are 99.99% GF. And flyertalk.com is 100% PG rated.

Yes, I know about the HKG, but I'm talking about the addition of some kind of a separate section for non-directly sex related discussions and other offs for each geographical forum. If there is one thing that units us here besides mongering is that we all are travelers or expats. We have a lot of things beyond sex to help each other with, I think it is not wise not to use this vehicle for this. And unlike the PG rated forums, here we can discuss everything, from every angle.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Careful. You asked to see the manager but you didn't really want to see the manager. They're all triad. They won't mess with a gweilo (if you are one), but why stir the pot? The mamas are there for a very defined task--show you the girls, bring you a drink, take your money and see you out the door up to the hotel. They may ask you how you liked it afterward but they are not there for customer service. There basically is no customer service. YMMV in all mongering experiences. Many girls at 37D will do anal, just get back on the horse and try again.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback, Jonhnny. For the record, all I did was complain verbally. At no point did I become physically threathening, or shoved a fist under mamasan's face.

I am not sure I agree with comment "there basically is no customer service". Not at 37D. Because 37D doesn't have the prettiest or youngest girls, that is their selling point: service. That, and not much else. If it wasn't for the reports on 37D's service, I would never have gone there in the first place.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I'm amazed that this needed saying, but obviously did. Is Hong Kong some Nevada colony where you speak to a lawyer if the locals don't do as they're told??
[/QUOTE]

I was pretty sure I wasn't going to get any kind of redress. Just wanted to see if it would be any different from complaining in China. The answer seems to be no. Even in China, sometimes if the sauna feels bad, they will give you discount coupons towards your next visit...sometimes

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
I'm not sure if Wadman's later comment about getting them to inspect the size of his dick beforehand was facetious or not.
[/QUOTE]

I was not. Dick size is an obvious excuse for not doing anal. But then, even if you pass this test, there are many other excuses: upset stomach, sore ass ...

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
Never mind triads, try adapting to a country's system of etiquette a bit - not to mention a bit of inter-gender empathy. If you speak to a top class western escort who 'does' anal, she will still usually hedge it with conditions, and it's not always to swindle you. Some women can open their rear hole wide on demand just like some can deep throat. But for a great number it is something that requires a little expertise on the part of the male so that she's eased into it.
[/QUOTE]

First time I went to 37D, I did not mention anything to the mommy about anal. I friendly and politely asked the girl I pciked whether anal is a possibility. She politely and friendly refused. And that was the end of that. No more discussions or attitude, or anything.

The problem I have with this time is that I expressedly asked the mamma for a girl that does anal.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
HK girls are not the same as Chinese and have little of the 'peasant doing as I'm told' mentality.
[/QUOTE]

I get the distinct impression that a lot of girls in 37D are PRC girls. Both times, mine were. One from ChongQing, and one from Sichuan. Both spoke Mandarin like a native.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
I recall a situation once where, in a normally perfectly business-like joint, I didn't click with the attitude of the woman and made a complaint. A kindly (and rather large) doorman appeared out of thin air. He gently and politely ushered me towards an office but, instead of inviting me in, stood with me at the top of a broken iron staircase with two other kindly looking thugs. They could afford to look benign - it was obvious they could trash me with as little hassle as trashing a cigarette stub. They didn't even say anything, just stood there. I had the option of a deep dive or of opening negotiations![/QUOTE]

Honestly, you could still have registered your complaint. Just tell them politely what the problem was. If you were not expecting something unreasonable/extra, I don't think they would start swinging. I have registered complaints with male pimps in BBSs in China.

I am about to hit Hong Kong again shortly and will provide the usual up to date scene reports on my usual haunts - Neptunes/Fenwicks.Galaxy/141 etc. However, those with a good memory of my reports last February will recollect, among several ladies I met and with whom I shared some horizontal refreshment, Miss "M" "turned" my head - the top one that is. Well, to cut a long story short, we have stayed in contact ever since - she texts me 3/4 times a day. phones 3/4 times week, emails me - current count is over 1100 in 9 months - speaks to me om YM every day for about 2 hours, and has never once asked for any money. She has, she says, become a worthy lady and only earns from drinks now. Well, why not believe that? I may add that I know they can do very well from that source alone - on a reasonable night up to $800/1000. Compared to the Phil average wage - that's not too bad.
I have agreed she can stay with me in my hotel for my 2 week vacation - could be a mistake - but there is a considerable potential "saving" of up to $1000 a night in that arrangment (I never pay more that $1000 for LT). Ok - there are meals and drinks etc and the day-to-day living expenses,

One side of me tells me I am making a mistake as I will not be able to monger to the same extent - although I have "ways" of being excused for a few hours for research purposes only, you understand.

My friends tell me Mody's bar in TST is an "interesting" place - does any fellow mongerer know anything about it? It must be close to Sticky Fingers. I can find no reference to this bar in the forums.

Thanks for any help, assistance, advice.

I usually start about 0800 and will hang out the elevator area until I catch something or 1000. I don't always stand there drooling; I will get a coffee and walk the area. You will spot them or they will spot you. No real skills required.
'Bare