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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1668623]This is a good slogan to be sung buy a DR Vet when dealing with chica in the DR. However, Newbies you try to refrain from this in Sosua. You should think more like Kenny Rogers. You have to know when to Hold'them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, and know when to run.[/QUOTE]When you come to think of it, it's all been sang about before.
Just take your favorite music with you and listen to the words.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1668353]So being the guider of those who venture to DR I solicit your advice in a double booking problem I have.
I inadvertently notified two of my DC Chicas, one a Haitian and the other a Dominican of my arrival on the 20th of this month. Major screw up on my part. Unfortunately both of these Chicas which I have a kind of "novio" history with think I'm only coming to see them which is never the case. If the Haitian knew I was seeing someone else, well she'd be gone in a minute whereas the Dominican might be more accepting. These Chicas are semi-pros as they meet guys via the Internet versus on the Strip. I'm in Sosua for 8 days and would like too see both of them without them knowing, and being under the illusion I'm only there to see them besides some sport fucking on the side. Any thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]Surfer, what does having novio history consist of and what benefit do you get out of it when you are not with these chicas? Sounds more like you have "when it's my turn, I enjoyed them" history. Thats the history it seems you really had with those women? In other words, before you arrive, and after you go these women go right back to working their old and new novios through the internet. Meanwhile when you are away, you maintain contact with these women on social media.
How deep and meaningful is your communication with these women? Como esta? Once a day. Que tu hace? In the afternoon. A little te amo, and extrano mucho every now and then. A bunch of kisses and besos. A few pics, and cute messages with cute little doggies or hearts in them. Some spiritual messages? You know how I know? Me, you and dozen of other guys all get the same thing. Meanwhile these chicas don't know jack about us. And for the most part arent really interested in what we do when we arent there. They may not even know what kind of work you do, your family, your likes and dislikes, your daily routine. They don't know shit about you, like a regular woman where you live would ask. The only reason they stay in touch is so that they can ensure that you will bring your wallet back for them to extract from it. And for the most part we don't know that much about them. What we do know, is they all have some kind of problem or will have. And they don't mind telling us all about their problems and ailments.
So lets recap. You are concerned of getting caught by either one of these chicas seeing you with someone else? Chicas that are fucking other dudes before you come and after you leave? The Haitian chica would be gone in a minute if she knew you were with someone else? Really? She can fuck whomever she wants, whenever she wants, but she is supposed to be concerned about you with someone else? Now if she spots you with other women in Sosua (imagine that? A guy going to Sosua where an abundance of hookers are) but she is going to be gone in a minute? If that were to happen it makes perfect sense. You are occupied, therefore your wallet is tied up. No finance, no romance. No need to hang around you. I will see you later when your wallet is available.
Did it ever occur to you, that the only women they are concerned about are the women in the DR, especially other women hustling like them? What about the women from where you live? How come you don't get any grief or concern over the possibility of you being with women from where you live? They barely mention or have concern for those women. Because if other women were a problem, that Haitian chica should be prepared to drop your butt for general principle. Do they think you are just jerking off the whole time you are back home, and you wait until you get back to the DR to get them ( only them ) to relieve you? Sounds silly doesn't it? Man these chicas don't have control over you or me , we put ourselves in that position as if they do , walking around with that frame of mind. Like Pavlovs dog. Right now, you seem to be on automatic obedience or concern for what they think with these chicas because of some stimuli or performance they provide.
Next I would like to know, what is the draw with these women, that has you so concerned about losing them? They swallowing your venom when you nut? Tossing your salad? You busting nuts deep inside of them. They cook good meals? They washing your clothes? What? What? What? I want to know what kind of magical spell that these chicas have to cause a dude to be concerned about them finding out he is with other women besides them?
This is an interesting situation that raises a topic. As we get older, many of us start descending into seemingly being afraid of women. Afraid of losing them, their company, their attention, their sexual favors. Afraid of correcting them or respectfully putting them in check when it is deemed necessary. Afraid to seek out other chicas if the other chica is not making the cut. Instead they want to sweat the chica, and make her a priority. I have observed quite a few men in person that overly cater to women. And guys expressing sentiments like " you can't take it with you". They say that to justify them spending money like water on women, and doing things for women even if those women did nothing to earn it except for provide sex and companionship. Mostly, so the women will like them, or be with them, and nobody else. In essence, trying to buy exclusivity.
Why do so many older guys seem to be so insecure, to the point that they are afraid of a woman leaving them or being mad at them? And to compensate for that, adjusting to the whims of women, maybe start spoiling them or doing things that isn't appreciated or necessary?
Most mongers are fully aware, the main reason enough of these chicas don't want some guy they got on the hook with other chicas, is because the other chicas are getting their benefits instead of them. Trust, it aint because of some love they have for the man himself. As far as they are concerned, we aint nothing but a living carcass with benefits. Your wallet is the main thing that really matters. The sex is simply the medium used to get what they want from us. They know that if they arent the one providing the sex, comforts, they arent the one benefitting, somebody else is. So don't believe that crap that you are some chicas novio. It is just your turn when she is ready to barter and exchange your pesos for her company with you. She may be happy to see you. Kiss and sex you passionately. But the reality is, the reason she feels so good being with you, is because you have paid or will pay for a special place in her heart (purse) during the time it is your turn.
Here's an experiment. Give a chica the sum of what you would have given her if she spent that time with you, but be with other women instead. And see if that chica will agree to getting with you on your next trip.
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Most mongers are fully aware, the main reason enough of these chicas don't want some guy they got on the hook with other chicas, is because the other chicas are getting their benefits instead of them. Trust, it aint because of some love they have for the man himself. As far as they are concerned, we aint nothing but a living carcass with benefits. Your wallet is the main thing that really matters. The sex is simply the medium used to get what they want from us. They know that if they arent the one providing the sex, comforts, they arent the one benefitting, somebody else is. So don't believe that crap that you are some chicas novio. It is just your turn when she is ready to barter and exchange your pesos for her company with you. She may be happy to see you. Kiss and sex you passionately. But the reality is, the reason she feels so good being with you, is because you have paid or will pay for a special place in her heart (purse) during the time it is your turn.
[/QUOTE]It's like market share, LOL. McDonald's would rather you spend all of your money with them and you not having the option of spending it with Burger King, Wendy's, etc.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668692]It's like market share, LOL. McDonald's would rather you spend all of your money with them and you not having the option of spending it with Burger King, Wendy's, etc.[/QUOTE]True. What cracks me up with chicas is the double standard logic many try to impose on a dude. I don't know how many times I have heard a dude tell the story about some chica he's dealing with, sweating him because he might be or has been with other chicas? Meanwhile they are coming to Sosua, using the internet to fuck other men.
Worse is seeing guys sort of confused like they really want to believe the chica is telling the truth, is sincere and has genuine feelings towards them.
Here's an example. A chica a buddy of mine messes with, comes to Sosua to be with him for a few days. After about 4 days with her, he's done. Wants her to leave. She gets an attitude about it. Accuses him of being with other chicas. But when he isn't there, I see her in Rumba looking for men. Her trying to get me to take her. Which I did, but that was a while ago, and I told my buddy about it. Lately, he got tired of the stupid ass daily exchanges they would have on Whatsapp. Her eventually begging for money. One day, he stopped talking to her on Whatsapp. Next she texts me, to ask me if I said anything about me and her getting together. She cant understand why he isnt responding to her messages. These muggs are a trip. The biggest problem a lot of guys have is they can't verify anything when these chicas tell their stories. Most times they are lying about something, some detail. And they ( the men ) want all too much to believe these chicas, and or excuse their behavior so they don't lose their connection. IMO what guys should be doing is putting these chicas in deep check when they start whining about some dude being with other chicas. This isn't only with regulars. That crap happens with chicas a guy hasnt even been with. The chica is in Sosua to fuck as many dudes as she can for money, and she is yakkity yakking about some dude being with other chicas. GTFOOHWTM.
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Next I would like to know, what is the draw with these women, that has you so concerned about losing them? They swallowing your venom when you nut? Tossing your salad? You busting nuts deep inside of them. They cook good meals? They washing your clothes? What? What? What? I want to know what kind of magical spell that these chicas have to cause a dude to be concerned about them finding out he is with other women besides them?[/QUOTE]Not sure what to make of your posts sometime.
Negative, positive, altruistic, condescending, insulting, etc. I think Grownman refers to you correctly as "Sigmund Freud". Perhaps your a shrink in real life.
The questions I have for you is, would you be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which you can have.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", I have experience in this department.
I have an un-written "don't ask / don't tell policy with both of these Chicas. They play me, I play them. I don't care what they do while I'm away, and they don't care what I do when I'm away. It's all about the money for them. Lot's of times things are all just an illusion and / or a fantasy for me. Who cares, I'm having a blast with all of this!
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How deep and meaningful is your communication with these women? Como esta? Once a day. Que tu hace? In the afternoon. A little te amo, and extrano mucho every now and then. A bunch of kisses and besos. A few pics, and cute messages with cute little doggies or hearts in them. Some spiritual messages? You know how I know? Me, you and dozen of other guys all get the same thing. Meanwhile these chicas don't know jack about us. And for the most part arent really interested in what we do when we arent there. They may not even know what kind of work you do, your family, your likes and dislikes, your daily routine. They don't know shit about you, like a regular woman where you live would ask. The only reason they stay in touch is so that they can ensure that you will bring your wallet back for them to extract from it. And for the most part we don't know that much about them. What we do know, is they all have some kind of problem or will have. And they don't mind telling us all about their problems and ailments.
[/QUOTE]I am not too hard guys when it comes to this. Let's face it: Reality (especially in Sex Prison, USA) sucks! Nothing wrong with a little illusion of affection from someone else to help you get through the day. Just look at the next bum you see on the street and imagine that if you could have looked into a crystal ball and showed him when he was 18 or 21 that at 27 he would end up broke and homeless on the street for the remainder of his life. He would probably have blown his brains out the next day.
Same thing with people that play the lottery. The illusion of striking it rich overnight despite the statistical odds being completely against you (you are more likely to experience death by vending machine then to win the lottery: [URL]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/30/15-things-more-likely-to-happen-than-winning-mega-millions.html[/URL]) doesn't stop them from playing. Because "somebody won", and that's what keeps them going.
I have no illusions about "no money, no honey, and I do enjoy knowing that they are young, sweet honeys that will line up to take my money and send me an "hola amor" or "cuando regresas?" here and there on whatsapp or facebook. Compared to what I have here (the cold shoulder day in and day out from these hardened biyotches here in the US) it is nice to know you have a "happy spot" you can retreat to, and a smiling face to greet you. It keeps me on my toes and makes me want to grind harder so that I can always have the means to continue visiting that happy spot. The trick is to know when to turn it off. Because not doing so is how you find yourself in line at Western Union in your local supermarket, LOL.
Reality bites.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668724]I am not too hard guys when it comes to this. Let's face it: Reality (especially in Sex Prison, USA) sucks! Nothing wro.[/QUOTE]Well put Pro Pimpin!
You have to know when to hold them know when to fold them know when to walk away know when to run. Sosua is Fantasyland for a lot of us. My man Sigmund Freud is speaking a reality that we all must understand. I think Surfer knows that. You can tell he does because he has the right attitude when he leaves he doesn't care what the chica does. He knows that they are semi pros. He plays his fantasy his way.
Now I ask them before they ask me. Got to set the tone.
I never knock what another man does to have fun. It's his money, so do as you wish, BUT I have several regulars that I stay in contact with, and they know that I see other women when I'm there. It's my vacation, and I'll see you when I see you. .
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668746]Now I ask them before they ask me. Got to set the tone.[/QUOTE]LMAO! You a fool Mr. E.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1668715]Not sure what to make of your posts sometime.
Negative, positive, altruistic, condescending, insulting, etc. I think Grownman refers to you correctly as "Sigmund Freud". Perhaps your a shrink in real life.
The questions I have for you is, would you be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which you can have.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", I have experience in this department.
I have an un-written "don't ask / don't tell policy with both of these Chicas. They play me, I play them. I don't care what they do while I'm away, and they don't care what I do when I'm away. It's all about the money for them. Lot's of times things are all just an illusion and / or a fantasy for me. Who cares, I'm having a blast with all of this![/QUOTE]My posts are designed to assist in a person making up their own mind. By repeating the particulars that were provided. Sometimes people need to see their circumstances broken down a different way than how they may have rationalized it. Considering that you may be an intuitive individual, I didn't think you would assume I intend to insult, or be condescending. All I'm doing is mirroring what you provided. Of course putting my own spin on it. But non the less, its' not me you would have a problem with.
Ya know very often there were times I thought I had a dilemma on my hands. The reality was. Everything turned out well inspite of my fears or concerns. And that's exactly what will happen with you. So what you told both chicas you were coming, and / or that you were going to be with them? What do you suppose is going to happen? You have it all worked out already. You believe the Haitian chica will dismiss you. If that were to happen, so be it. It's not like it will be the end of the world. And that's what I was trying to get across. Your wallet just won't be available to one of them this trip. You have always had the power to tell one or the other, I won't see you this trip. No explanation. As you say, don't ask, don't tell. But my point is, you always had the ability to organize who should come and who should stay home. In other words, you never had a major blunder like you assumed you had.
Surfer, you don't have to convince me or anybody about your awareness of knowing they are after your money. Or that you know it's an illusion and fantasy. I believe you. Your concern though over making the mistake of double booking tells a different story. If it is an illusion and a fantasy, then why all of this concern over these chicas, seeing you with other women? As if they would dump you? Thats a totally different issue altogether. And it sort of exposes another issue pertaining to you, and your sense of security in dealing with individuals providing an illusion and a fantasy. Further, if their interest in you is an illusion and a fantasy, is your concern an illusion and a fantasy too? Doesn't seem that way. And that's why I responded. Maybe I see something you don't want to see. Yes, I'm your brother in mongering, so I offer a perspective different than what you may get from others.
Now your questions. Would I be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which I can have. My answer is yes. Drawn to? Of course. But at some point I have limits and standards. I'm not Shaft, Superfly or James Bond. It's just every now and then some dudes just do what needs to be done without concern of losing some persons fake interest them. These days, I value exercising self control more than being concerned over what you think you may be losing by simply standing up for yourself. Now a days, I know I can be direct or covert in telling a chica, I won't see her this trip. I know damn well all this talk about us being the boss, because we have the cash counts for something. So I'm going to act like it means something.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", Yes for a season. And then I slipped quickly back to reality. Now if you asked me these questions when I was youngster back in the day. I truthfully was a mess. Misrepresenting myself and my best interests. But damn man, I'm more than half a century old now. Aint we supposed to have more self control as men by now? Much wiser? Less pussy whipped? If everything is indeed an illusion or a fantasy with these chicas, then I expect a monger to act like those women are providing an illusion or fantasy of being mad or threatening to leave. And not take them so seriously. Apparently it's not all an illusion or a fantasy when it comes to some of us being concerned over losing their company. Many of us mongers have esteem issues of our own. Especially when it comes to dealing with PFP women. You may think I'm being negative? I think I'm offering food for thought.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1668788]My posts are designed to assist in a person making up their own mind. By repeating the particulars that were provided. Sometimes people need to see their circumstances broken down a different way than how they may have rationalized it. [/QUOTE]Thank the father of jesus we have our own Dr. Phil on a hooker Web site!
I for one, feel blessed.:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1668832]Thank the father of jesus we have our own Dr. Phil on a hooker Web site!
I for one, feel blessed.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]I second that!
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1668862]I second that![/QUOTE]Me too!
Hookers can be like pets.
The dog or cat you have will go to anybody who feeds them, but you can still have an enjoyable relationship with them if you treat them well, but do they really, really love you? Who cares?
Takes a little more work if you want to add another dog, or a cat, but you can make it work.
That steak you ate, that beer you drank don't give a shit about you, and had to be paid for, but can be enjoyed nevertheless.
Same with pussy. Buy and enjoy! If you occasionally get a tough steak or a warm beer, no big deal.