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[QUOTE=RobJones;2068529]Hi all,
I hope this is appropriate, I have stumbled across this profile on social media and I'm wondering if any members have had the pleasure and can give some feedback. Her name is Modza and she is based in Pattaya. If it is a real profile I will definitely give her a shot, or two.
Thanks, Rob.[/QUOTE]First of all Rob, she is nothing to write home about. A big long shot asking this don't you think? If you were asking about a girl working at a Gogo or massage shop identified with a name and number, we often can help. But to ask about a random freelancer from an unknown website or chat app, it's almost impossible. Do what most of us do with freelancers. See them and post about your experience. For example, where you met her? Thai Friendly, we chat, Imsomnia or another. How much you paid, quality of service and so on. Why are you so reluctant to pull the trigger on a freelancer without reading a review beforehand. Judging by her looks and being in Pattaya, what's the most money it will set you back? 1,500 Baht for St amd maybe 2,000-2,500 for LT? If you are not willing to write reviews and try girls and are only looking for us to provide you with information on random freelancers, then you have come to the wrong place. If you can't afford to spen 1,500-2,000 in Pattaya without someone posting a stellar review so you can be more comfortable to engage her, then you can't afford to come to Pattaya. I hope you understand my points. Now contact her, bang her, and then come and write a review about it. Simple and easy.
[QUOTE=Rob Jones;2059341]I have booked my flight for my first trip to Thailand in February and after reading the different Thailand Reports I'm bursting with impatience to get there and to get amongst it all. Can anyone tell me if the reviews on the Devils Den website are accurate as it on my wish list to visit there? Also is the Kittens club at the Penthouse Hotel open now?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Secondly, you are making the trip 7 months later. This freelancer could be long gone by then. The girls will not want to waste time making plans with some unknown guy for 7 months later. She will forget you after a few hours let alone 7 months. Give it a feast. Do what you did in Indonesia and do after you arrive. Also post a dam report about your experience as well.
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Woke up at 10 AM. Had breakfast and headed to Honey 2 around 12.30. Good selection of girls. Chose a very nice girl for TBH 3500. Had fantastic time with her. Tipped 100 and she was happy. Would visit again.
In the evening went to several Go Go Bars. Finally settled at Sweethearts. One was a cutie and at about 165 cms fairly tall for a Thai. Decided to take her and had a drink with her. Accepted her demand of 2000 plus 1000 bar fine. I was pestered by her friend for a threesome, who too was nice but not a beauty like the other girl, but almost as tall as her. The price quoted was same and she did not budge. But my chosen girl too was requesting that I take her and she promised a nice session for me. I relented finally.
I did not regret my decision to spend TBH 6000 plus drinks for these girls. Had a fantastic session in the room with each of them competing to please me. Came out finally after multiple sessions and BJ. Tipped the girls TBH 200 each and saw them off. The night appeared young still at 11.45.
Continued hunting in other joints. Finally went into first floor of a Go Go bar. Cannot remember the name now. There were hardly three or four customers and five girls. The girls were average and one of them, I would say was good, rather best among them. Almost all the men left place by 1 AM and surprisingly I was the only one! But the girls were dancing mechanically except the girl I mentioned and I decided to take her. So, had a drink with her and then got drinks to all the other four girls plus bar tender. Had very nice time till 2 AM and left with the girl. I would say that the session with her was good. Saw her off finally at 5 AM and tipped her TBH 200. The agreed price was TBH 2000 all inclusive.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2068608]Do I tip food servers in Thailand? Is it 15 %?[/QUOTE]Tipping in Thailand is traditionally a token acknowledgement of good service. A service charge (10%) is already included in the price. Well actually there are really three pricing schemes:
1) The stated price is what you pay (price includes service charge and sales tax).
2) The stated price is then "plus" (price includes service charge) and 7% sales tax is added to the bill.
3) The stated price is then "plus plus" where both 10% service charge and 7% sales tax are added to the bill.
For a tip it is customary to round up to the nearest baht note and leave the small baht change. So if the bill is 448 baht leave 460 baht in notes, or leave the small change from bigger bills. Of course if it is a nicer establishment you can leave a bit more of a tip, but in any case the basic service charge is included in the total one way or the other.
SL.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2068613]I was seated with 3 women yesterday and asked 4 or 5 times if I wanted to buy them a drink. I said no, but still I wish they wouldn't ask especially with 3 there. It was the server who kept asking. How do I go about getting a HJ, from one?[/QUOTE]Me: A drink? She can't be thirsty. She has not done anything to make her thirsty yet.
Like Banana Boi said, drinks need to be earned, not just given out because someone comes to sit next to you.
Take their hand and put it on your dick.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2068613]Maybe a 20 yo prefers me over a 70 year old, but it is hard to believe that a fresh young woman just starting in the gogo business wouldn't be a bit depressed about the idea of me groping her after only just meeting.[/QUOTE]I guess you have yet to realize that that is why they are there. If there were no 50 year old men around to grope them, then they would be out of a job. And to some it may be less depressing sitting around in the ac with a guy groping them, than working outside in the scorching sun on a rice farm. I am always a bit depressed about going to work too though, so I can sympathize.
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2067998]1 USD = 33.15 THB. But I can bet it will change by early September.
I have never used PET, but I doubt if it will be any cheaper than THB 1300 I pay for a private taxi (standard sedan like a Toyota Altis) when I need one.
Is Limo Taxi sending an actual limousine? Then the higher price might be warranted.[/QUOTE]I hope the rate goes up, I was getting 35 b to the dollar in January.
PET charges 1200 each way; Limo Pattaya, who we have used in the past is up to 1500 each way.
We are two bigger dudes, so prefer to pay for a decent ride. Also prefer to have someone meeting us at BKK when we arrive.
I will give PET a try. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2068613]
My plan is to start going to beer bars a bit more and leave the gogo bars alone a bit.[/QUOTE]You may want to give Billabong beer bar in LK Metro a try. Surprisingly I saw a couple of decent younger ones there the other night. Usually it's over 30's but you seem to be ok with that. While you're there check out some of the LK metro gogo bars. More laid back than Walking Street.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2068734] For a tip it is customary to round up to the nearest baht note and leave the small baht change. So if the bill is 448 baht leave 460 baht in notes, or leave the small change from bigger bills. Of course if it is a nicer establishment you can leave a bit more of a tip, but in any case the basic service charge is included in the total one way or the other.
[/QUOTE]Also in a lot of places they will bring out coins instead of notes, I think this being a hint that the coins are about the right amount of tip, say 30 baht if the bill is small. I usually take the coins and give them notes because the coins are useful for the BTS. 10% on top of the service fee is enough if the service has been pretty good.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2068625]
Not necessary to tip here. I learned from my thai girls only to tip around 20 baht. I will tip a bit more if eating at a more expensive steak house or I like my server. If you want your server to keep the tip, hand the money to her directly.
[/QUOTE]I have been wrestling with the tipping issue since I first visited here. When I am out with my Thai GF I let her handle most all of the spending, and she will tip more or less a fixed amount, such as BB's recommended 20 Baht, rather than a percentage. (I think she only tips because I question her when she doesn't)!) In other words, I concur with BB's recommendations, though I will still often try to give a 10% tip. If the service happens to be outstanding, I will give more. But who gives outstanding waiter service over here? I mean, how often do the waiters come around in Thailand to ask how the food is, do you need anything else, do you want dessert, are you ready for your check, etc? They do things differently there, which means we should tip differently as well.
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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2068818]10% on top of the service fee is enough if the service has been pretty good.[/QUOTE]What's this madness? On top of the service fee? Service fee IS THE TIP. At places that charge a service fee (on top of the price on the menu), there should be no tip, not a single baht, unless the waiter did something extraordinary and unusual. They shouldn't be able to charge for a fixed mandatory tip and get a tip on top of that.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2068858]What's this madness? On top of the service fee? Service fee IS THE TIP. At places that charge a service fee (on top of the price on the menu), there should be no tip, not a single baht, unless the waiter did something extraordinary and unusual. They shouldn't be able to charge for a fixed mandatory tip and get a tip on top of that.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, but I don't like coin so I will generally leave the loose change on the table when I pay in cash although it does depend on how much coin there is. One of the benefits of credit cards, aside from the 2% back, is there is no loose change.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2068761]Me: A drink? She can't be thirsty. She has not done anything to make her thirsty yet.
Like Banana Boi said, drinks need to be earned, not just given out because someone comes to sit next to you.
Take their hand and put it on your dick.
I guess you have yet to realize that that is why they are there. If there were no 50 year old men around to grope them, then they would be out of a job. And to some it may be less depressing sitting around in the ac with a guy groping them, than working outside in the scorching sun on a rice farm. I am always a bit depressed about going to work too though, so I can sympathize.[/QUOTE]So I am giving impressions for what they are worth, and sometimes I am going to be wrong. I think I was wrong on that. I met a real friendly mid 20's last night. The 40 year old was a big let down. I took a girl from some beer bar. I was a bit drunk and told her I might not be able. She said she would make it work. And damned if she didn't.
I agree on the work thing. I asked the 40 year old how she liked her job. She said she didn't really, but it paid better then her last job as a cook. That should have been a warning I guess. The girl last night said she didn't visit home because she missed the money when she did.
I like the beer bars better then gogos. I like playing games.
I will try the putting their hand on my dick thing. Thanks for the replies.
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[QUOTE=FLHawk;2068852]I have been wrestling with the tipping issue since I first visited here. When I am out with my Thai GF I let her handle most all of the spending, and she will tip more or less a fixed amount, such as BB's recommended 20 Baht, rather than a percentage. (I think she only tips because I question her when she doesn't)!) In other words, I concur with BB's recommendations, though I will still often try to give a 10% tip. If the service happens to be outstanding, I will give more. But who gives outstanding waiter service over here? I mean, how often do the waiters come around in Thailand to ask how the food is, do you need anything else, do you want dessert, are you ready for your check, etc? They do things differently there, which means we should tip differently as well.[/QUOTE]For some of us that obsequiousness is not good service. I do not want a waiter asking me how I like my food; they don't give a stuff, so why should they ask? I realise this sort of behaviour is the norm in the US, but people in other countries are not happy with this. A good waiter is unobtrusive until he / she is required. If I ask for advice, say about a certain wine, and get a good recommendation, that is what I regard as good service. This "Hi my name is. And I am your server tonight. " is rubbish I can do without.
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How does long time work?
Say I take a woman back to the motel at 10. We are finished by 11, then what? Neither of us would be ready for sleep. Do we go back out and do what?
When I was here long ago, I would sleep and assumed she did also. I don't know if the night life lasted as late then. Now I am not ready for sleep til later and would just lie awake.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2069003]Say I take a woman back to the motel at 10. We are finished by 11, then what? Neither of us would be ready for sleep. Do we go back out and do what?
[/QUOTE]Take her to eat, go to a late movie, go experience a Thai bar on the Dark Side, go play pool, go to a disco, take her to some gogo bars, watch TV with her and grope her for a couple hours before you sleep. it's all up to you. The fair is on now. Located on 3rd Road behind Central Festival. Girls love it there. Otherwise, save some cash and do ST and go get a second ST girl at midnight.
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Fan from Surin, BR FL
Fan stands across the road from Tahitian Queen. Petite, under 5 ft, slender, straight dark hair, white skin. Spoke English, said she's 20 why, from Surin, first week in Pattaya. Quoted 1000ST. In the hotel room she wanted me to pay first. Told her I always pay after. She demanded that I pay first. I said then she can leave. She refused to leave and started shouting for the money. As I called hotel security she threatened to phone her police boyfriend and claimed that she's only 19 thus I would have to pay 10000 to stay out of jail. She pretended to phone someone. Hotel security escorted her out.
Two nights later from a distance I witnessed her arguing with a customer at her spot on BR.