Pattaya Reports

If you were looking at another site the Darkside map 2015, I would say 50% of those places are gone or the name was changed.

Today personally it really should be called the Darkside because not much out here and what you see and I know taste is subjective but they might as well turn their lights off. As noted, one day it is open the next it is close. The girls don't stay long because not a lot of money is made in my opinion out here so they move on and if they don't you know why. Once in a while you get a farm fresh gem and they are quickly gone to greener pasture.

Noted, you should start around 4-5 pm but I noticed since Soi 6, was forced to open at 6 pm, the places out here seem to have followed that format.

Here are some names places are open a bit early like 1 pm, but I wouldn't go that early. These have pools and food like mini Kinnaree, Aqua Deymie, Fabrice, White Swan. La Guieente (spelling is off) expect to see maybe at half dozen girls at best. Dao bar just open again has food and a pool, the bar is around the back but not sure when they open? These places are basically houses turn into like a gentlemen club but don't expect the girls to be as aggressive as the clubs in town or Soi 6.

These bars might offieryou something around 2 pm after, Top cool, Junkyard, there is a set of places top of Soi Khao Talo, past the Castra Gym follow that road and there is a set that open around 2pm. Looking for nothing get hungry there is a place called Pepper and Salt, pretty good food I think it is close Tuesday. For the nasty there is Mango and Paradise two long running places out in the Darkside that should get mentioned since they haven't closed.

Forget about going out to the Lake, but if you do best time is after 6pm, personally the girls look better out there maybe because of the customers who are loaded but don't want to go into town. Majority of places don't get busy until 6 pm and after. In all the years living out here I found around a half dozen I would do and personally I not picky and only one that I use to see regularly. I'm not the type that likes to go into a place and be the only one especially the only minority. As you might already know majority of the guys who visit live out here and sneak out to these places before dinner and after dinner for their desert. All places closes at midnight.

Good luck.

Reason we (others like me) ask is for the variety. So far all the russians I have been with have been with are excellant. Cannot say the same about romanianss polish uzbeks. So far my best encounters have girls from moscow and baltic countries. Any hoo will explore and see what I can get in pattaya. I was there in year 2004 and have found a 18 years girl from.

Moscow on the walking street. She was just awesome. Those were pre whassap days hence cannot keep contacts.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2076415]The only reason can be those guys can't get to EE for many reasons.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2076634]If you were looking at another site the Darkside map 2015, I would say 50% of those places are gone or the name was changed. Today personally it really should be called the Darkside because not much out here and what you see and I know taste is subjective but they might as well turn their lights off.

Here are some names places are open a bit early like 1 pm, but I wouldn't go that early. These have pools and food like mini Kinnaree, Aqua Deymie, Fabrice, White Swan. La Guieente (spelling is off) expect to see maybe at half dozen girls at best. Dao bar just open again has food and a pool, the bar is around the back but not sure when they open? These places are basically houses turn into like a gentlemen club but don't expect the girls to be as aggressive as the clubs in town or Soi 6.

These bars might offieryou something around 2 pm after, Top cool, Junkyard, there is a set of places top of Soi Khao Talo, past the Castra Gym follow that road and there is a set that open around 2pm. Looking for nothing get hungry there is a place called Pepper and Salt, pretty good food I think it is close Tuesday. For the nasty there is Mango and Paradise two long running places out in the Darkside that should get mentioned since they haven't closed.

Forget about going out to the Lake, but if you do best time is after 6pm, personally the girls look better out there maybe because of the customers who are loaded but don't want to go into town. Majority of places don't get busy until 6 pm and after. In all the years living out here I found around a half dozen I would do and personally I not picky and only one that I use to see regularly. IAs you might already know majority of the guys who visit live out here and sneak out to these places before dinner and after dinner for their desert. All places closes at midnight.[/QUOTE]Great update LBM. The Darkside is primarily for ex-pats living in the area and other punters who want a little variety and enjoy exploring. Rent a motorcycle and

"Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace"

-Born to be wild

[QUOTE=OneRose;2076561]Just came back from my last visit

After seeing that beach road is a mess, I went to my next favourite place. Soi 6 (spare me the lecture again) .

Disappointed with that, I thought that all of the good ones are in Gogo s now. So I went in the ones that I liked before (like Mandarin and Angelwitch). Same problem here, just as the good ones disappeared somewhere. As I have read about the new 'place to be ' what is up go go, I went there. The ladies were cute, I give them that, but they were looking so professional. Especially the 'show girls'. The prices were actually the ones that really surprised me. I didn't bother to remember everything but the show girls (which basically just soap their fake boobs on stage) were quoting around 1500 for BF and 5000 for LT. If you add the drinks, taxi and tip in the mix you end up paying up to 9000 baht for a girl that used to cost .[/QUOTE]What's wrong with soi6 ? Why would you get a leftie snot soi6 ?

[QUOTE=PicDoody387;2076495]We will be in Pattaya from next week. How's the weather now, is it raining badly? I am more of a gogo bar hopping guy, but if it rains then it might not be possible. How's the FL scene if it rains? Where is the best place to find girls if it rains be badly.[/QUOTE]Has not rained much in Pattaya over the past month but last night it rained a little last night. Scheduled to rain all week. I like the rain and clouds it cools the air a lot.

Best place to find girls if it rains is the comfort of your hotel room and Line someone to come over. If you need to go out rain does not stop most gogo girls from working. If the motorbike can make it to work so can they.

[QUOTE=OneRose;2076561]
After seeing that beach road is a mess, I went to my next favourite place. Soi 6 (spare me the lecture again) . Same problem here, the age of the performers seems to be have gone way up (at least 5-7 years) , while the prices increased and the quality collapsed.[/QUOTE]Visited Soi 6 3 times this week and I have had no problems seeing alright looking girls 18-25. No where near as cute as my gogo girl I found this week but it's Soi 6 so that is not my expectation. There are new girls showing up weekly now.

[QUOTE=OneRose;2076561]Disappointed with that, I thought that all of the good ones are in Gogo s now. So I went in the ones that I liked before (like Mandarin and Angelwitch). Same problem here, just as the good ones disappeared somewhere. As I have read about the new 'place to be ' what is up go go, I went there. The ladies were cute, I give them that, but they were looking so professional. Especially the 'show girls'. The prices were actually the ones that really surprised me. I didn't bother to remember everything but the show girls (which basically just soap their fake boobs on stage) were quoting around 1500 for BF and 5000 for LT. If you add the drinks, taxi and tip in the mix you end up paying up to 9000 baht for a girl that used to cost 1000 baht 2-3 years ago (minus the boobs) . 9000 baht is more than 200 euros! If you are only for one night in Patts and the 'thai dream' is something you have, I guess it's ok to pay this amount. For me, having some of my best experiences in Pats for less than 3000 baht for 24 hours, I'm just going to pass and go back to BKK which, by the way, improved significant since my last visit.

[/QUOTE]Mandarin hasn't been good since December, 2016. Angelwitch I don't even bother with any more. What's Up is overpriced and imo the talent is overrated. I was there only a few days ago. Even 2 years ago I've heard discussions of 7000 LT there for the Show Girls. Thai girls have learned well how to take advantage of the passive Japanese and Korean weekend millionaires.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2076851]Visited Soi 6 3 times this week and I have had no problems seeing alright looking girls 18-25. No where near as cute as my gogo girl I found this week but it's Soi 6 so that is not my expectation. There are new girls showing up weekly now.

Mandarin hasn't been good since December, 2016. Angelwitch I don't even bother with any more. What's Up is overpriced and imo the talent is overrated. I was there only a few days ago. Even 2 years ago I've heard discussions of 7000 LT there for the Show Girls. Thai girls have learned well how to take advantage of the passive Japanese and Korean weekend millionaires.[/QUOTE]Yeah I have to really agree about What's up. Some good things, but some of the girls are overpriced and overrated. I mean, there's a girl in there with missing teeth wtf.

Hows the daytime scene on Soi6 lately? I'll be in town in about 2 weeks and was looking forward to some afternoon play on Soi6, but the crackdown had me concerned that it wasn't as lively as it was a few months ago. Probably won't redirect my trip to BKK, but will make daytime play less interesting if Soi6 is less lively during the day.

OneRose,

I think your Beach Rd pricing is off. My experience is that the older ladies will go ST for 500 baht, not 700 to 1000 baht like you say. The better quality younger ones who are not the cream, will go ST for 700 to 800 baht. The top notch ladies all quote 1000 baht ST, though there are maybe only 5 of these on the entire Beach Rd stretch. The better quality ladies have quoted me 2000 baht for LT and the older 500 baht Short timers have quoted me 1000 baht for long time.

[QUOTE=Franga;2076959]OneRose,

I think your Beach Rd pricing is off. My experience is that the older ladies will go ST for 500 baht, not 700 to 1000 baht like you say. The better quality younger ones who are not the cream, will go ST for 700 to 800 baht. The top notch ladies all quote 1000 baht ST, though there are maybe only 5 of these on the entire Beach Rd stretch. The better quality ladies have quoted me 2000 baht for LT and the older 500 baht Short timers have quoted me 1000 baht for long time.[/QUOTE]I just shared what I was quoted, don't shoot the messanger.

Anyways, the biggest problem is the decrease in quality not the extra 100-200 baht.

I just arrived this evening. Went to Soi 6 to get a quickie. Quality girls stil can be spotted in some bars. However, most beer bars seem half emptied. It's 21:30 now. I don't think it's too early. Will head to BR to find FL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2075287]OK now I understand where you are coming from. Prices are not the same for us who reside in Pattaya. However, I don't post about the numerous freebies or going out with a top gogo girl for the amount of her barfine or maybe 1000 baht to her mainly because it's not applicable to the average tourist reader on this site. I also consider it to be a form of bragging. It is true when you become a known face who has a good reputation there are many perks with the girls.[/QUOTE]What you post about is your opinion. What I post about is my opinion, like it or not. It's not bragging at all. It is simply what has happened at any given time. And yes, the price is always lower.

I'm not here to dissect, what is for the tourist and what is for another guy. So you only post for the avg tourist? What about the guys who come here often and the guys who live here (rhetorical question)? We should ONLY post for the avg tourist. I don't think so. Feel free to start a new thread for locals or frequent visitors.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2075399]When I am in the US, the equivalent of that 5000 baht Thai stunner will cost me 5 to 10 times as much![/QUOTE]Really. A girl is the US would charge you 750 - 1500 USD? And you would pay that!? I don't think so. LOL Let's keep things in Perspective. This is not USA or Europe or wherever. A Girl doesn't cost that much here.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2075404]Pipe Layer could get her down to 2000! .[/QUOTE]If I'm lucky. LOL But unlike you, I don't worry about that stuff. Girls are everywhere.

Whatsup gogo is, IMO, a tourist trap. If gogos are your thing, why go to whatsup for overpriced drinks and girls when there are a whole bunch of other gogos nearby that cost much less? Let it sink it.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2075413]Haha. Good one! Yeah, Pipe Layer could totally get her down to 2000 -- unless she is in high demand and won't go with him for that amount -- in which case Pipe Layer has already decided, "Well, I didn't want that one anyways! So there!

If I played these semantic games, I could claim things like, "Every girl on the planet (except the ugly ones) wants to go to bed with me" (but carefully define "ugly girl" as all the girls who don't want to go to bed with me). Yes, if you carefully play these semantic games, then yes, one can make quite grand claims![/QUOTE]It's not about semantics. It's about what I'm willing to pay for (in case you missed the point the first time). IMO, the cost of pussy 'here' is not worth more than B2000 baht for all night and that's for a girl that I consider hotttt. Period. I only had about 4 girls like that in 6 years. Why? Because that's what my experience has taught me. To each his own. How much you have to pay is your problem. Whether she is ugly or not.