Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Frannie;1677130]When the guy didn't deliberately string her along or give her false hopes of a paid sex date, and didn't take up her time for an unnecessarily long time if he knew he wasn't going to exit with her.[/QUOTE]Are you assuming a discussion would have taken place between the chica and the dude about him taking her? Because the reality most often, there is no such discussion. The false hope and feelings of being strung along are clearly the chicas own presumptions based on "he didn't send me away, so he must want me" "he bought me a beer, so he's taking me back to his place for sex" " I spent 45 minutes with this dude, so he owes me" "I met him 3 times out in public, and he still hasnt taken me, he is giving me false hope and deliberately stringing me along" Hogwash. Thats all manipulative chica logic, and those that have empathy for them.

And that's the extent of the chicas quest for knowledge of a mans intentions or lack thereof. Just because he didn't do this or that, he strung her along or gave her false hope. Once again putting the onus on men to protect a womans interest. Now if we were talking about a man who discussed his intentions upfront that he was taking her that's one thing. But we know you arent talking about that. All a man is doing is spending time with the woman and if he isn't interested in taking her from there, that's considered stringing her along, taking up her time, and giving her false hope.

Like I said before, where is the chicas responsibility to herself? Isn't it her responsibility to seek information from a dude about his intentions of taking her? Not assume because a dude is allowing her to spend a certain amount time in a club is some silent communication indicating he's interested and will pay for sex later. I don't buy that stringing women along or false hope crap. Thats a woman problem, not a man problem.

And if you want to look at it like that fine. But I'll say this about chicas that hang around a dude giving men false hopes of having a great sexual experience but not delivering. Leaving before the agreed upon time. Flipping the script up in his spot. Remember you telling me before about how men needed to look out for their interests from things like this? Well what do you think women should be doing? Crying and whining? No.

If women arent going to be providing the same consideration to men, then they can't expect men to do it for them. A woman is just going to have to look out for her own interests, and discern how she spends her time in the club / bar with men.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1676983]What makes me an idiot? I only state fact.[/QUOTE]I was not referring to you as the idiot.

RR.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1677144] Now if we were talking about a man who discussed his intentions upfront that he was taking her that's one thing. But we know you aren't talking about that. All a man is doing is spending time with the woman and if he isn't interested in taking her from there, that's considered stringing her along, taking up her time, and giving her false hope.

Like I said before, where is the chicas responsibility to herself? Isn't it her responsibility to seek information from a dude about his intentions of taking her? Not assume because a dude is allowing her to spend a certain amount time in a club is some silent communication indicating he's interested and will pay for sex later. I don't buy that stringing women along or false hope crap. That's a woman problem, not a man problem.

[/QUOTE]Again you are ignoring the context.

The typical plot of a novel or movie, as we all know, is 1. Boy meets girl. 2. Boy gets girl. 3. Boy loses girl. 4. Boy gets girl back.

Now lets look at a more advanced plot:

1. Boy meets girl.

2. Boy leaves girl.

3. Girl is angry.

If we take this completely out of context, then, yes, we might ask why girl is angry.

But if we fill in the information by asking questions like who are these people and how did they come to be in the same place at the same time, then we will have a lot more information.

If the man has traveled from overseas to a place where there are prostitution bars because he wants to pay women for sex, and the woman has come to the bar dressed up in the clothes of a typical prostitute because she is selling sex and wants to advertise this, then both parties have expectations that may be fulfilled or disappointed.

If the man spends extended time in the company of a woman in the bar, getting into her personal space, touching her body, flirting, etc. And she squeezes his dick through his pants and he gets hard, then he is creating the expectation that he will hire her as his bed partner, and she will probably be disappointed if she waits around for him posing like his girlfriend in front of his buddies, and after a couple of hours he yawns and says he is off to beddy byes and leaves her in the bar.

OK she picked the wrong guy. Perhaps she should have asked him if he was planning to take her home and left if he did not give an unequivocal yes. But she didn't. Perhaps because she didn't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off and lose a potential customer, I don't know. Both parties might have communicated better so as to not waste each others time.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1677123]No my dimwitted friend. The other meetings were not relevant. If you researched my past post correctly, I said "Later, I got her to come to Rockys. There I started my interview process. It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. ".

You got it now my dimwitted comrade? You had it twisted like the attitude was from her having multiple meetings/interviews. I had to straighten you out before for assuming that knee jerk nonsense. But you are hardheaded.

When she got to Rockys, then I noticed she had an air of attitude. Now try not to be overly dense here. Think this thing out clearly. She didn't have an attitude the 1st time I met her. She didn't have an attitude at the playa. She was cool, and she agreed to meet later. When she got to Rockys, I noticed then something was going on. Her demeaner may have had nothing to do with me. Didn't matter. I decided I don't need someones bad vibe no matter where it came from, nor do I need to be rushed. After getting more reasons for not taking her, I informed her I was not taking her. She left pissed. You like a hyena saw me type her having an attitude and immediately jumped on that bit of information, and attributed it to her having an attitude because of the two meetings previously she wasnt taken.

Which was just you being a typical DH on this forum. But I hope you got it straight? If not? No problem. I got you covered buddy.[/QUOTE]I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the interview process conducted by the Mongerers on this board.

Getting bad vibes from the Chicas could indicate several things, perhaps they are repulsed by the appearance and / or the demeanor of the mongerer, hence the attitude issues. Perhaps there's a communication disconnect, not language wise, but the Chica trying to comprehend what the Mongerer is saying or asking of them, or the Mongerer's responses to what they are telling or saying to them.

Anyways, sounds like you just had another failed negotiation which would be frustrating for anybody. A little charm with these Chicas goes a long way which some Mongerer's make no attempt at.

To reduce failed negotiations, a Mongerer with communication issues might consider going after the "lower hanging" fruit Chicas. The really "skanky" Chicas and the deaf mutes fit into this category as communication shouldn't be an issue for the Mongerer.

These "lower hanging" fruit Chicas are ripe for the picking but aren't my cup of tea, however they might be right up your alley.

After two weeks in Sosua all good things must come to an end. No worries though, this time next week I'll be in Thailand and Cambodia for a month so I'm not in tears.

This last Thursday and into the weekend has seen tons and tons of Chicas swarming the streets / bars and probably has been one of the best weekends in a long time in Sosua. The assortment has been amazing with Chicas in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I felt like a dog in heat, wanting to hump them right and left!

Imagine banging any Chica in Sosua without a condom with no risk of getting or giving the Chica a disease, not impregnating them after cream pie-ing them, and being able to pop a nut every hour on the hour like Old Faithful.

I would set-up shop at Bar Central in the Hotel behind the bar. They have lots of rooms, and I would rent a couple of rooms. One as a waiting room to be rotated with the other to do the deed in. I would even retain a towel handler, just like in Tijuana my home base. I might even take two girls at a time in and line them up on the bed for try-outs with the winner getting my leche.

On Friday afternoon at Bar Central there was a line-up of Haitians with their bubble gum butts waiting to be plucked and put on all fours for some doggy action! I even saw a light skinned Chica with an Egyptian hairdo I wanted to do in front of Rumbas. Big butts, so many of them, I think they where in the majority.

Sosua at times can be such a good candy store.

Well it's just a dream, but perhaps could be reality.

Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 some

[QUOTE=OldKool;1677245]Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 some[/QUOTE]I have lots of fun in Sosua, however the banter back and forth at times on this board goes deeper than differing opinions.

Personally attacking others and making other's look stupid is the downer here which I have been guilty of myself.

Anyways, I'm with you about having fun, and there should be a truce among the warriors here.

In regards to having a three some I assume you where referring to 2 Chicas and one guy. If that's the case, sign me up for three Chicas for a 4 some!

Also I like them in the 30 year old range versus the real young ones. There's nothing like a well seasoned prime nympho to get the leche out of you.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1677184]I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the interview process conducted by the Mongerers on this board.

Getting bad vibes from the Chicas could indicate several things, perhaps they are repulsed by the appearance and / or the demeanor of the mongerer, hence the attitude issues. Perhaps there's a communication disconnect, not language wise, but the Chica trying to comprehend what the Mongerer is saying or asking of them, or the Mongerer's responses to what they are telling or saying to them.

Anyways, sounds like you just had another failed negotiation which would be frustrating for anybody. A little charm with these Chicas goes a long way which some Mongerer's make no attempt at.

To reduce failed negotiations, a Mongerer with communication issues might consider going after the "lower hanging" fruit Chicas. The really "skanky" Chicas and the deaf mutes fit into this category as communication shouldn't be an issue for the Mongerer.

These "lower hanging" fruit Chicas are ripe for the picking but aren't my cup of tea, however they might be right up your alley.[/QUOTE]If he has the same attitude towards the chicas as he has in this forum, you can see why they may "lose interest" in his "interview process". :)

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1677227]After two weeks in Sosua all good things must come to an end. No worries though, this time next week I'll be in Thailand and Cambodia for a month so I'm not in tears.

This last Thursday and into the weekend has seen tons and tons of Chicas swarming the streets / bars and probably has been one of the best weekends in a long time in Sosua. The assortment has been amazing with Chicas in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I felt like a dog in heat, wanting to hump them right and left!

Imagine banging any Chica in Sosua without a condom with no risk of getting or giving the Chica a disease, not impregnating them after cream pie-ing them, and being able to pop a nut every hour on the hour like Old Faithful.

I would set-up shop at Bar Central in the Hotel behind the bar. They have lots of rooms, and I would rent a couple of rooms. One as a waiting room to be rotated with the other to do the deed in. I would even retain a towel handler, just like in Tijuana my home base. I might even take two girls at a time in and line them up on the bed for try-outs with the winner getting my leche.

On Friday afternoon at Bar Central there was a line-up of Haitians with their bubble gum butts waiting to be plucked and put on all fours for some doggy action! I even saw a light skinned Chica with an Egyptian hairdo I wanted to do in front of Rumbas. Big butts, so many of them, I think they where in the majority.

Sosua at times can be such a good candy store.

Well it's just a dream, but perhaps could be reality.[/QUOTE]Well, I've had something close using those very premises. Never saw the towel handler, though.

Bang, bang, bang three in a row, in the space of an hour or so, and 2 were indeed heaven!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1677137]Yes, it is relevant because you find the notion that you might have any kind of duty of care towards these poor women anathema.

In my opinion, although the Hippocratic oath is not strictly speaking relevant to the situation, the dictum that you should "do no harm" is a useful one and I would rather err on the side of generosity than going to the other extreme. Many of these young women have been abused in some way during their developmental process, and while, like you, I don't want to hear all the details and sob stories, I also want to rest easy that I have not contributed any further hardship to their lives.

So I think it is reasonable to treat them with consideration and does no harm to try to imagine how they might perceive a night in Sosua from their perspective as well as yours. I think a lot of the "sex dates gone bad" stories are the result of mutual lack of empathy and failure to communicate, and that guys will get better sexual experiences if they adopt my point of view rather than yours.[/QUOTE]I wish you could understand this. Just because I am discussing this issue about female responsibility, that doesn't mean I operate like some of the dudes that have women around them at the club / bar.

First off, I don't go to places like Rumba that often. When I do I am enjoying the view, meeting up with some buddies, saying Hello, to many of the chicas I know. Every now and then, I may take a chica home. My MO, is not about inviting chicas to sit down to drink. If I see somebody I like, I may go to where they are sitting and strike up a conversation. I'm generally not going to ask a chica to sit down with me. But I'm also not going to a chicas table to set myself up to pick up their bar tab, or find myself paying for several chicas that conveniently show up at the table.

Been there, done that. Observed it enough with other men. Enough chicas try to run game on dudes by getting them to buy food and / or drink. At that point, they may not even be focused on the dude taking them. Their pursuit is get some dude to spend money on them.

I don't entertain any of that. Now what I do, if I meet a chica I intend to take back to my spot, I may stop off to one of the dominican restaurants and pick up some food to take out. I avoid drinking out, because I have enough alcohol and soft drinks in my place. I don't need to buy drinks in the bar / club.

I don't bring chicas to the playa, and I usually don't invite chicas to come sit with me there. Especially to feed them or pay for drinks. I take numbers and touch base with them later. So on this issue, I'm not a dude that has chicas around me for any extended period of time, so they might think I'm taking them.

Now here's something a few here didn't know. The chica that some of these guys are reading about, the one I bumped into twice and then had the interview later. I bought her a meal and a Presidente at Rockys. So IMO, her time was compensated for, even though I hadn't taken her to my spot. After she got pissed, she immediately told me I owe her for her time. To which my reply was, no I don't. I just paid over 500 pesos for your food. I'm not giving you money too! She walked off pissed, but she didn't give me a major problem or argue me down or refuse to leave. Probably because she didn't have much leverage. She was just trying to be greedy. It's also possible with her attitude / vibe I'm not the only dude that elected not to take her, so she was prepared to leave if things didnt work out.

So even when some dudes try to be considerate of a chicas time, some chicas try to take advantage of that. I don't usually sit down in restaurants with chicas, but I made an exception in her case. The good thing is, that 500 peso interview was well spent, rather than me taking her back to my spot and us having a bigger problem, and her expecting more money and we didn't do the deed. Plus I got to do a good thing. Feed someone who needed a meal. Even with her bad attitude / vibe, I still showed consideration for her time by offering to buy a meal. She also didn't seem appreciative.

I know none of this sounds like how I would operate, based on the content in my posts. But as I explained before, message board posts / discussions is not necessarily a representation of ones character, total beliefs or how they operate in daily life.

Back to the issue. For guys that feel a chica is owed something for her time, how much should she be paid? What range? OTOH, to a certain extent, I would think some chicas might be insulted by some dude handing them something like 300 pesos, and walking off. Was it a year or 2 ago, a buddy of mine had a chica that wanted 1500 pesos for her time up in Rumbas? He was a newbie, and another monger had paid the chica a lessor amount for her to move on. But that chica caused a major scene as I recall.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1677245]Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 some[/QUOTE]Old Kool, I'm sure you recall months ago you and I going back and forth the same way, as Oakie, Surfer, Temp, Tom and others that are in the same zone. No matter how much I explained on the boards that we don't know each other, that you can't judge a person or their character, don't have a full representation of a person just from discussions / debates etc, we kept bumping heads.

I'm sure I mentioned before, that if any of us met each other face to face, and interacted with each other, you would see a real person in front of us. Someone who has a life, family, worked hard, is liked and appreciated by those that know him. But in spite of saying that, back then, I couldn't get none of you to see that or stop the nonsense. So the online quarreling continued.

It took us unintentionally meeting for you to see me as a real person rather than some message board personna. We had the opportunity to discuss some of the same issues we generally talk about, but without the usual blockages to understanding and BS we were accustomed to. Remember, you saying stuff like I could never be your wingman, and a whole bunch of other personalized stuff all because you thought in real life that I treat chicas like shit. Or you felt that I constantly have problems with chicas, because of how I supposedly am as a person. That my PERCEIVED message board representation in expression was me as a whole person. I have to admit, you looked quite surprised when I revealed to you who I was. It was almost like a bubble was burst because online you had a fixed way of how you would respond to me. But to see me in person, you knew right then and there , it wasnt necessary for us to see each other as online adversaries. At that point we had already spent maybe 20 or 30 minutes sitting there talking.

My friend that was with me in Rockys, I told him after you left, that you were one of the guys I was going back and forth with online. My point is, it shouldn't have taken us to meet for you or any of these other guys to realize that you can't judge how a person is in real life by the way someone expresses themselves in writing. Or because someone is focused in debate / argument. You miss so much from a person not being in front of you. Their facial expressions, sincerity, tone, full disclosure and details etc.you get to ask questions to make sure you got it right.

Not to mention, the reader is the one who interprets or assimilates the information. How it was received doesnt mean that is how it was conveyed. Your not going to get every nook and cranny detail of what goes on in someones report, or their world either. And a poster is not going to know every good deed you did for others, like buying chicas / families groceries, a cell phone, helped with rent, school, bought perfume etc vs, a report focusing on negative behaviors a monger should be on the lookout for, or talking about beggars, touts, thieves and scam artists.

I emphasized all too often for individuals to seek feedback and ask questions so you get a better idea of a persons POV. I tend to practice that , and try to do it often, but it gets me nowhere with certain individuals stuck in a zone they can't get out of. If they can't offer a counter argument related to the discussion, they in turn decide they'll just attack what they perceive of the person online. I point that stuff out all the time, and the stuff continues.

I could very well meet every dude on here that is acting just like you did towards me back then, but I'd rather sit back and just watch them continue to make assholes of themselves in their online representation, thinking theyve got some enemy / bully poster on their hands. LOL. It is comical. I wouldn't be surprised if some dudes recently in Sosua already interacted with me, but didn't know it. There are several well know posters in this forum that know me on a personal level, or know me enough that I believe they don't regard me as an asshole.

And they know or havent seen me dog chicas or disrespect any, don't call women bitches or talk like that. They are aware I have favoritas that I deal with moreso than searching the clubs for chicas. I'm generous, considerate, helpful, and act like a brother when we are together. Some I've picked up and dropped off to the airport. They read this forum, they see the exchange, but they are not going to say anything or get involved. They just watch. And weve talked about it off the boards. But we arent consumed with talking about ISG, because were too busy relating to what is in front of us in real time. Good times as friends, sharing info about life, and enjoying chicas. There is a life beyond ISG. You and me have no quarrels in real life. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1677498]. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.[/QUOTE]An interesting, if self serving, cry for help!

Relax Wrexy.

You say you got all those buddies who love you and tell you you're OK, you say you got all the members who PM you with approval. I bet your Momma loves you too.

Do you really need the rest of us "ignorant", "delusional", "lying" mongers to "see the light", and finally acknowledge your supreme wisdom?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1677498]Old Kool, I'm sure you recall months ago you and I going back and forth the same way, as Oakie, Surfer, Temp, Tom and others that are in the same zone. No matter how much I explained on the boards that we don't know each other, that you can't judge a person or their character, don't have a full representation of a person just from discussions / debates etc, we kept bumping heads.

I'm sure I mentioned before, that if any of us met each other face to face, and interacted with each other, you would see a real person in front of us. Someone who has a life, family, worked hard, is liked and appreciated by those that know him. But in spite of saying that, back then, I couldn't get none of you to see that or stop the nonsense. So the online quarreling continued.

It took us unintentionally meeting for you to see me as a real person rather than some message board personna. We had the opportunity to discuss some of the same issues we generally talk about, but without the usual blockages to understanding and BS we were accustomed to. Remember, you saying stuff like I could never be your wingman, and a whole bunch of other personalized stuff all because you thought in real life that I treat chicas like shit. Or you felt that I constantly have problems with chicas, because of how I supposedly am as a person. That my PERCEIVED message board representation in expression was me as a whole person. I have to admit, you looked quite surprised when I revealed to you who I was. It was almost like a bubble was burst because online you had a fixed way of how you would respond to me. But to see me in person, you knew right then and there , it wasnt necessary for us to see each other as online adversaries. At that point we had already spent maybe 20 or 30 minutes sitting there talking.

My friend that was with me in Rockys, I told him after you left, that you were one of the guys I was going back and forth with online. My point is, it shouldn't have taken us to meet for you or any of these other guys to realize that you can't judge how a person is in real life by the way someone expresses themselves in writing. Or because someone is focused in debate / argument. You miss so much from a person not being in front of you. Their facial expressions, sincerity, tone, full disclosure and details etc.you get to ask questions to make sure you got it right.

Not to mention, the reader is the one who interprets or assimilates the information. How it was received doesnt mean that is how it was conveyed. Your not going to get every nook and cranny detail of what goes on in someones report, or their world either. And a poster is not going to know every good deed you did for others, like buying chicas / families groceries, a cell phone, helped with rent, school, bought perfume etc vs, a report focusing on negative behaviors a monger should be on the lookout for, or talking about beggars, touts, thieves and scam artists.

I emphasized all too often for individuals to seek feedback and ask questions so you get a better idea of a persons POV. I tend to practice that, and try to do it often, but it gets me nowhere with certain individuals stuck in a zone they can't get out of. If they can't offer a counter argument related to the discussion, they in turn decide they'll just attack what they perceive of the person online. I point that stuff out all the time, and the stuff continues.

I could very well meet every dude on here that is acting just like you did towards me back then, but I'd rather sit back and just watch them continue to make assholes of themselves in their online representation, thinking theyve got some enemy / bully poster on their hands. LOL. It is comical. I wouldn't be surprised if some dudes recently in Sosua already interacted with me, but didn't know it. There are several well know posters in this forum that know me on a personal level, or know me enough that I believe they don't regard me as an asshole.

And they know or havent seen me dog chicas or disrespect any, don't call women bitches or talk like that. They are aware I have favoritas that I deal with moreso than searching the clubs for chicas. I'm generous, considerate, helpful, and act like a brother when we are together. Some I've picked up and dropped off to the airport. They read this forum, they see the exchange, but they are not going to say anything or get involved. They just watch. And weve talked about it off the boards. But we arent consumed with talking about ISG, because were too busy relating to what is in front of us in real time. Good times as friends, sharing info about life, and enjoying chicas. There is a life beyond ISG. You and me have no quarrels in real life. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.[/QUOTE]Life beyond ISG, are you kidding me!

So now your saying here in a "nutshell", that if other members on this board where to meet you in person that most likely we would have things in common and wouldn't be such adversaries. This was exactly what I tried to convey to you in my Friday Puta Viewing Gallery Meeting Invite which you declined to accept or comment on.

Unbelievable beyond belief is all I can say.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1677429]

So even when some dudes try to be considerate of a chicas time, some chicas try to take advantage of that. I don't usually sit down in restaurants with chicas, but I made an exception in her case. The good thing is, that 500 peso interview was well spent, rather than me taking her back to my spot and us having a bigger problem, and her expecting more money and we didn't do the deed. Plus I got to do a good thing. Feed someone who needed a meal. Even with her bad attitude / vibe, I still showed consideration for her time by offering to buy a meal. She also didn't seem appreciative.

I know none of this sounds like how I would operate, based on the content in my posts. [/QUOTE]Well, the content of your posts is what you are putting out there for other people to read, including some who have never been to the DR but are thinking of it. I got a PM just today from someone who is making his first trip to the DR in June. What will he make of your posts?

It doesn't sound like you mistreated this chica. You spoke to her a couple of times at the beach and then asked her to meet you, but then you didn't like her attitude, fed her, and dismissed her. Fine. Probably she was a waste of time.

But just like you ask other posters to consider you as a real person, not just a cyberspace philosopher, you might as well also consider the point of view of the chica.

She is probably a person of limited intellect. She probably got up early on the day in question and showered, dressed up, spent a couple of hundred pesos at the hairdresser and fifty pesos for the publico to Sosua, in the expectation of meeting you and earning at least 1500 pesos. Maybe she is even paying someone else to mind her child. We don't know.

It didn't work out, so she was disappointed and pissed off even though she got a meal and a beverage for her trouble. Now perhaps she needs to spend another 50 pesos to go home again. End of story.

From her point of view her day is wasted and she has spent 300 pesos for nothing. So she is pissed off and asks you to pay her for her time.

Just another day in Sosua. There are no absolute rights and wrongs and you are dealing with a tricky population. Rumbas is not Studio 54 or the college disco.

Maybe she didn't invest any time or money into preparing for her date with you, but she might have done. If she didn't then other chicas at other times probably have done so.

All I am saying is that there is no harm in trying to look at these kind of situations from all possible angles. Yes, of course there are some chicas who will just try to scam guys out of money without providing any value in return. But look where you are, and don't necessarily try to parlay Sosua experiences into a General Theory of the Behavior of Women Who Abuse Innocent Men.

I think mongers will get a better overall experience if they start from the default position that the providers they meet are decent people trying to earn an honest crust by selling sex or providing companionship for financial reward, and then make adjustments when the individual shows themself to be unworthy of this assessment, rather than taking the default position that all the chicas are con artists from the get-go.

Others may have a different opinion. That is OK.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1677540]I think mongers will get a better overall experience if they start from the default position that the providers they meet are decent people trying to earn an honest crust by selling sex or providing companionship for financial reward, and then make adjustments when the individual shows themself to be unworthy of this assessment, rather than taking the default position that all the chicas are con artists from the get-go.

Others may have a different opinion. That is OK.[/QUOTE]Yeah like the guy who went out running while leaving all his valuables in the room with a chica whom he THOUGHT he knew. Too late for an adjustment on that one. Like you say everyone has a different opinion and way of doing things, hence the disclaimer Your Mileage May Vary. IMHO the words honest and hooker should never be used together. [url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHAZWyckMc[/url]