Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2077161]Really. A girl is the US would charge you 750 - 1500 USD? And you would pay that!? I don't think so. LOL Let's keep things in Perspective. This is not USA or Europe or wherever. A Girl doesn't cost that much here.
[/QUOTE]Remember, I am talking about all day. Normal, average-looking girls in the US will be not be much less than $200 for a hour typically. Ask them to spend the day and night and see what they ask for! One Asian free lance hottie in my state charges $300 an hour and she is booked solid. Two hours, $500. All night, you are looking at over $1,500. In Pattaya, she would be a tenth of that, and the service likely better.

I will be in Pattaya in 7 weeks. Would love to see you pick up a hottie that makes me drool for 1500 baht for a night. That is not a challenge. I simply would love to see it happen, and not have to spend many many hours or days to happen where it is more luck or playing out the odds than it is skill. (Though skill, and being a regular and speaking Thai. , certainly helps increase the odds.).

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2077566]You get better girls at GoGo clubs; so they cost more. That is all there is to it.
Yes, there is variation but on average GoGo girls are superior....
You can get "okay" girls outside the clubs. I guess, but I'd rather spend 3,000-4,000 on a 22 year old cutie from a GoGo bar; who will be cute enough but not a model, than spend 1,000 for a nasty, aggressive short time with an Insomnia girl who clearly hates my cock.
The stand out thing with Thai girls is their personality (I hate to say this but it is true) they know how to be a lady, they will follow you and not try to lead. This is obviously all an act; in part. There are no western or European girls that can pull off that same level of submissiveness and femininity, even when acting. There is something inherently different about Thai women.[/QUOTE]If that's what you think, so be it (I'm talking about if you feel that the gogo girls are better so they should cost more). 'Better / superior girls' is highly subjective in a number of ways. And there are a lot of those so called better girls that are stuck up. Not to split hairs on the subject, but let's not forget there are also a bunch of girls in the gogos that make us think what in the heck are these girls doing in here. In other words, there are some unattractive and overweight girls in there as well. Nobody's going to argue that because we see all the time.

Plus, you can go into your favorite gogo one night and it has a number of girls you like. Go again 2-3 days later (or 6 months later for the twice a year visitor) and it's totally lame. The pretty ones are nowhere to be found and the place / vibe is just not the same.

In regards to the club / s you're way off base. That's not the right picture you painted above. First of all, I'm sure no one in their right mind wants a nasty, aggressive girl from a club (or a gogo for that matter). Of course any guy would rather take a cute girl over a nasty one no matter where she works and no matter what price.

Nevertheless, getting back on topic, there are two things worth mentioning regarding these girls. There are many sexy girls who are just FLs (not working in a gogo) and they only go to the clubs when they want to work. So on any given night, you can find lots of very pretty women in the clubs. Some of the clubs have 150 or more girls inside, many of which are just as pretty as gogo girls.

The other thing is that those same so-called superior gogo girls go to the clubs too. They don't all get taken every night. When they don't get barfined they go to the club looking for money.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2077955]Remember, I am talking about all day. Normal, average-looking girls in the US will be not be much less than $200 for a hour typically. Ask them to spend the day and night and see what they ask for! One Asian free lance hottie in my state charges $300 an hour and she is booked solid. Two hours, $500. All night, you are looking at over $1,500. In Pattaya, she would be a tenth of that, and the service likely better.

I will be in Pattaya in 7 weeks. Would love to see you pick up a hottie that makes me drool for 1500 baht for a night. That is not a challenge. I simply would love to see it happen, and not have to spend many many hours or days to happen where it is more luck or playing out the odds than it is skill. (Though skill, and being a regular and speaking Thai. , certainly helps increase the odds.).[/QUOTE]That's crazy. I knew guys in the States who would pay $170 an hour for hot Korean girls (this was about 7 years ago). I'm sure the rate has gone up by now. I haven't asked. I'd rather save some dough for a few months (if I was in that situation) and then fly to Asia instead of spending $300 just an hour of fun. Some guys can't get away or they don't want to fly for 24 hours.

In Pattaya, I bet you Would love to see it happen. You are cracking me up. Bring some game and try your luck maybe you can make it happen. LOL.
However, playing the devil's advocate on that subject, you'd have keep a few things in mind and not get ahead of yourself. What one guy considers a hottie might not be a hottie for you? So when a guy finds one, and you think she is not hot, it's a wrap. And who knows how long it would take? Of course it would take some time and effort.
If it didn't happen at one place, you'd need to go to another. Same as when you come to Pattaya and go looking for a hottie. If you like gogos, you could easily go on the hunt in the ones at LK Metro. Nothing there, it's off to walking st. Other guys like bars and they walk up and down soi 6 a few times trying to find one that fits their bill. If nothing stands out, off to the next place on the list. No way to tell what will happen on any given Sunday. That's the good part of being here though. There are options.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2078232]If that's what you think, so be it (I'm talking about if you feel that the gogo girls are better so they should cost more). 'Better / superior girls' is highly subjective in a number of ways. And there are a lot of those so called better girls that are stuck up. Not to split hairs on the subject, but let's not forget there are also a bunch of girls in the gogos that make us think what in the heck are these girls doing in here. In other words, there are some unattractive and overweight girls in there as well. Nobody's going to argue that because we see all the time.

Plus, you can go into your favorite gogo one night and it has a number of girls you like. Go again 2-3 days later (or 6 months later for the twice a year visitor) and it's totally lame. The pretty ones are nowhere to be found and the place / vibe is just not the same.

In regards to the club / s you're way off base. That's not the right picture you painted above. First of all, I'm sure no one in their right mind wants a nasty, aggressive girl from a club (or a gogo for that matter). Of course any guy would rather take a cute girl over a nasty one no matter where she works and no matter what price.

Nevertheless, getting back on topic, there are two things worth mentioning regarding these girls. There are many sexy girls who are just FLs (not working in a gogo) and they only go to the clubs when they want to work. So on any given night, you can find lots of very pretty women in the clubs. Some of the clubs have 150 or more girls inside, many of which are just as pretty as gogo girls.

The other thing is that those same so-called superior gogo girls go to the clubs too. They don't all get taken every night. When they don't get barfined they go to the club looking for money.[/QUOTE]It's not subjective at all. People have different tastes, but top tier girls are top tier girls. If you couldn't see her prancing around a college campus, or working in finance as an assistant, then she isn't top tier.

More likely that the hot FL girls have HIV or some other serious STD. Something to consider.

I don't see how a hooker can be "stuck up" given they have such a degrading job. When she is on all fours on my hotel floor and I "accidentally" stick the tip of my dick in her ass is that what you mean by stuck up? As in stuck up the ass?

I don't see the point in misleading fellow mongers because you have some weird idea that top quality girls are going for 1 k.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2078259]That's crazy. I knew guys in the States who would pay $170 an hour for hot Korean girls (this was about 7 years ago). I'm sure the rate has gone up by now. I haven't asked. I'd rather save some dough for a few months (if I was in that situation) and then fly to Asia instead of spending $300 just an hour of fun. Some guys can't get away or they don't want to fly for 24 hours.

In Pattaya, I bet you Would love to see it happen. You are cracking me up. Bring some game and try your luck maybe you can make it happen. LOL.
However, playing the devil's advocate on that subject, you'd have keep a few things in mind and not get ahead of yourself. What one guy considers a hottie might not be a hottie for you? So when a guy finds one, and you think she is not hot, it's a wrap. And who knows how long it would take? Of course it would take some time and effort.
If it didn't happen at one place, you'd need to go to another. Same as when you come to Pattaya and go looking for a hottie. If you like gogos, you could easily go on the hunt in the ones at LK Metro. Nothing there, it's off to walking st. Other guys like bars and they walk up and down soi 6 a few times trying to find one that fits their bill. If nothing stands out, off to the next place on the list. No way to tell what will happen on any given Sunday. That's the good part of being here though. There are options.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing your preference is not spinners so you are competing with our South Asian brothers for the beefier girls. Apples and oranges and two totally different price points. I'm curious what it costs for Korean chicks in asia?

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;2078427]I'm guessing your preference is not spinners so you are competing with our South Asian brothers for the beefier girls. Apples and oranges and two totally different price points. [/QUOTE]Photos of Pipe Layer99's girls can be found in the photo gallery thread.

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Just back after another great trip to Pattaya. FR coming in a couple of days. Since I was on the road for a while, I have not read the forum, and now that I have I realize I need to do some housekeeping. So here goes.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2077507]I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, it's just MY opinion. For me, this is not rocket science. It's just about picking up girls. P4 p or not.[/QUOTE]Block Pipe Layer99 - I could really do without a vain, pompous BM whose mouth appears to be bigger than his dick on my feed. Over the last 8 pages I read, there is nothing of value contributed by this BM, except for vitriolic attacks on other BM and a one note droning about how 2000 baht is the magic price for the hottest chicks in Pattaya.

Thanks to Banana Boi I have taken a look at the pics posted by PL99. Barring the one chick from Vietnam (whose face isn't visible), I can fully understand why he gets his chicks at 2000 baht (maximum).

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2078415]More likely that the hot FL girls have HIV or some other serious STD.[/QUOTE]Nobody has any hard data on this but there's absolutely no reason to believe it so. If anything the less good-looking girls are in a poorer position to insist on condoms.

In any case, practice safe sex and the point is moot.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2078562]
Block Pipe Layer99 - I could really do without a vain, pompous BM whose mouth appears to be bigger than his dick on my feed. Over the last 8 pages I read, there is nothing of value contributed by this BM, except for vitriolic attacks on other BM and a one note droning about how 2000 baht is the magic price for the hottest chicks in Pattaya.

Thanks to Banana Boi I have taken a look at the pics posted by PL99. Barring the one chick from Vietnam (whose face isn't visible), I can fully understand why he gets his chicks at 2000 baht (maximum).[/QUOTE]It has been observed many times that Pattaya has more than its fair share of grumpy old men. For those who wonder if this is really true, perhaps we should thank Pipe Layer99 for adding support to that hypothesis.

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2078415]It's not subjective at all. People have different tastes, but top tier girls are top tier girls. If you couldn't see her prancing around a college campus, or working in finance as an assistant, then she isn't top tier.[/QUOTE]Having stayed in Thailand for a few years, I can see almost none of the working girls in such roles since 2011 or so. Very few Thai-Chinese or even plausible middle-class looking among the working girls. Pattaya hookers are almost all from a few specific parts of Issan, and not even the average-to-better looking Issan girls. These days, "top-tier" in Pattaya means nothing more than early 20's and reasonably slim.

Among the Pattaya working girls, it's more of a "who looks interesting enough and strikes my fancy (even if she's not every man's cup of tea)", rather than "wow, she's objectively top-tier, got to have her". [I]None[/I] of the working girls in Pattaya would be the top looker within a single BTS carriage on a normal day (maybe on that last train which happens to have 4 people per carriage, 3 of them guys).

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2078797]Having stayed in Thailand for a few years, I can see almost none of the working girls in such roles since 2011 or so. Very few Thai-Chinese or even plausible middle-class looking among the working girls. Pattaya hookers are almost all from a few specific parts of Issan, and not even the average-to-better looking Issan girls. These days, "top-tier" in Pattaya means nothing more than early 20's and reasonably slim.

Among the Pattaya working girls, it's more of a "who looks interesting enough and strikes my fancy (even if she's not every man's cup of tea)", rather than "wow, she's objectively top-tier, got to have her". [I]None[/I] of the working girls in Pattaya would be the top looker within a single BTS carriage on a normal day (maybe on that last train which happens to have 4 people per carriage, 3 of them guys).[/QUOTE]Top tier working girl!= Top tier girl. Big difference. Also. I don't care about Asian racism. A pretty girl is a pretty girl. I feel from a western perspective; many in the Pattaya FKK clubs meet the requirement I proposed.

I agree that there are few to no real stunners. I think Soi Cowboy has stunners; but I can't stand Bangkok for more than one night. Maybe my next trip.

Aloha all,

First off thanks for all of the great content. Little hard to find through the moaning but what are ya going to do? I'll be in Patts for one week, 5-11 Sept. This is my first time and just out of a divorce! LOL Hope I survive!!

Anyways, I've read 100+ pages back and this is the plan. Budget volume vagina!

I have a place near soi 6 and a list of TF / Line contacts with prices for rainy days or last minute plans. I will.

Also be stalking BR. Two at once is definitely on the list, maybe DD for that. Soapies / oilies also on the list. Both spendie but hey.

My main question is my list of gogo joints. I know they change and are subject to taste. I am looking for raunchy action and rude behavior! The more naked the better! LOL. I won't be bar fining, lady drinks and tips only. Not looking for stunners. Attitude is king. Just looking for a good time.

Here is my list so far:

Windmill.

Sugar babies.

Sapphire.

Fahrenheit.

Sensations.

Any suggestions?

What about LK Metro?

Again, thank you all for the info and entertainment. I will be issuing reports soon!

The anniversary of His Majesty, the late King's death, is October 13. That is just a few days after I will arrive in Thailand.

I am sure the bars will shut down on that day, but perhaps they might shut down for several days? Might the massage places be open? Might the BR FL girls be out? Should the Tinder girls be available? Will places like DD and Kinneree (sp) be open? In short, how will the mongering be in October on or around October 13? Will Walking Street be dead? For how long?

For a double whammy, I think the funeral will then be on Oct 26 or so. That could be huge in Bangkok with all the crowds!

What do some you guys living there think will happen? How will the mongering be? I am stuck with my travel plans, but I can make some slight alterations.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2079059]The anniversary of His Majesty, the late King's death, is October 13. That is just a few days after I will arrive in Thailand.

I am sure the bars will shut down on that day, but perhaps they might shut down for several days? Might the massage places be open? Might the BR FL girls be out? Should the Tinder girls be available? Will places like DD and Kinneree (sp) be open? In short, how will the mongering be in October on or around October 13? Will Walking Street be dead? For how long?

For a double whammy, I think the funeral will then be on Oct 26 or so. That could be huge in Bangkok with all the crowds!

What do some you guys living there think will happen? How will the mongering be? I am stuck with my travel plans, but I can make some slight alterations.[/QUOTE]You have asked many questions here about a subject that none knows the answer to. Why we don't know is simple. This is new territory for everyone. When the king passed, things were pretty much screws for a week but after that, it all went back to normal. My guess is 2 or 3 days at best for the Cremation. One thing I know about the Thais is they forget easlily. My hunch tells me most of the girls will stay in Pattaya and apps like We Chat and Thai Friendly will blow up with them searching for customers. There will still be ladies on BR. This is just my opinion mind you but I wouldn't change your flight unless your main reason for going to Patts is the alcohol.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2079059]The anniversary of His Majesty, the late King's death, is October 13. That is just a few days after I will arrive in Thailand.

I am sure the bars will shut down on that day, but perhaps they might shut down for several days? Might the massage places be open? Might the BR FL girls be out? Should the Tinder girls be available? Will places like DD and Kinneree (sp) be open? In short, how will the mongering be in October on or around October 13? Will Walking Street be dead? For how long?

For a double whammy, I think the funeral will then be on Oct 26 or so. That could be huge in Bangkok with all the crowds!

What do some you guys living there think will happen? How will the mongering be? I am stuck with my travel plans, but I can make some slight alterations.[/QUOTE]I agree with BKKDog. The Thais have immense respect for His Majesty, the late King. But they still have to put food on the table. So I would bet on online being the prime source during these times.

That said, this is an entirely new, unprecedented event, so there is no telling how things pan out. Good luck!